i didnt want to watch past 25:25 yet since i havent seen it in game yet, but may someone tell me what/where this starts? is it the end of the Nzoth questline, or the quest (i havent done yet) given to you by jaina on the ship?
Wow. Shandris did a lot. She was even in Feralis. That is my favorite zone in the game. Awesome! I can't tell if her class is hunter or warrior. When Jerod finds Shandris he should say something like one of the flirt emotes for male drenai. The quote is something like this. "I had a girlfriend once. I lost her in the crash. That's the bad news. The good news is I'm availiable!" Speaking of love I am shocked that Tyrande and Malfurion took ten millenia to get married. That is forever. I thought they would be married much sooner than that. Even with the love triangle with Illiden, it still shouldn't have taken so long. Towards the end of the video, I agree with Tyrande. Telledrassil was destroyed. That is my favorite starting area. I have lots of nostagic feels for the place. The Horde derve to get thie but kicked for burning it down.
Raiden SSJV because u can make ur character look pretty much exactly like that. Yes she has different armor but the face is something u can pick in the character Customization menu. The hair is technically new but pretty similar to one that is in the game.
I should Thank you nobble after this videos i went to nelf related zones (Teldrassil is my grayard) and dungeons for the lore (reading the journal) and end on the emerald nightmare raid and dung. Got the spaulders from a Bonus roll on heroic. All because of this Thank YOU
I like tyrande's character, I like although she is a priestess, she is also a stone cold warrior. I glad they did that, because with the draenei and anduin there would have been too many peace seekers on alliance side. Its good they making tyrande so aggressive because if they didn't it would really make only the horde seem like the only aggressors. So I am not hoping for tyrande's arc to be finished anytime soon, I at least want to see her as a big part between a few more major conflicts between horde and alliance. Though I will say most likely what will happen is tyrande will eventually retire with malfurion, to some sacred lands and let Shandris take the mantle of high priestess. They seem to be really setting that up. I highly doubt they would kill her off because she been the face of night elves for ever, so yes they will probably do to her like they did thrall
I want to see Jaina team up with Alleria and Tyrande, and finish off Sylvanas once and fore all! Even with her new death powers she shouldn't be able to stop the three of them combined! So far in game and lorewise only Alleria and Tyrande are on a mission to kill Sylvanas, Jaina is not completely on board with this.
@@dontlaughtoomuch11 You may be onto something with their combined abilities overpowering Sylvanas's death powers. Let's see, Jaina could potentially flood entire Orgrimmar with a tidal wave, making her one of the most OP mages currently in Azeroth, Tyrande is now incarnation of Elune's wrath which makes her pretty much a one woman army, though so far we only seen her one shot a regiment of Horde soldiers in Darkshore, but it's still a lot of power, and Alleria... well, aside from having seemingly better control over Void powers than other Void Elves, which are quite OP themselves, she is also a skilled ranger and quite a wild card, planning and proceeding with executing the plans of an orc holocaust back in Warcraft 2(Quote: "The Alliance wants every orc dead. So do I. We can work together on that.") for the murder of her family at the hands of the Horde, which kind of makes her WoW's equivalent of The Punisher imo. So yeah, I'd say those 3 could probably take Sylvanas on.
@@Kubapajonczek Sadly from the Shadowland trailers, it's obvious and transparent that Sylvanas will most likely come out of that expansion unscathed! They have written her to be this all knowing, all scheming, all powerful strategist that never endures setbacks since becomming an undead, and that is getting boring really quickly.
I feel like shandris will be next priestess of elune, manly because of what’s happening with tyrande now in the current story. Though I could be wrong. Who knows? Also please do a history of tyrande and malfarion.
Crownsnek which is total bullcrap since Tyrande is rightfully angry at the Horde. Anduin wants her just “let bygones be bygones” a genocide against her people.
@@MrVlad12340 Rightfully angry... Absolutely. But for her to publicly disrespect the person who is offering your people sanctuary in the aftermath of a tragedy, then leave those same people to undertake a suicidal ritual ( only 1 person in over 10,000-12,000 years had succeeded in this ritual), where you threatened your goddess to make you essentially a "living banshee" to hunt down another Banshee Queen, and then as the High Priestess of Elune openly disrespect the goddess whose power you currently are harnessing despite that Goddess actively saving you for over ten millennia...She loses a considerable amount of sympathy as a character and credibility as a leader...And then she makes Maiev the leader of all of their armies... The same Maiev my of who set Tyrande's husband on fire and attempted to Murder an entire faction of people that had just been granted amnesty by both Tyrande and Malfurion... while leaving the investigation to uncover who was murdering them... Sorry no dice.
17mindgate if not for Anduin’s stupid decision to send their entire army to Silithus they wouldnt even needed the sanctuary. And allowing elfs to squat on his streets is not exactly “awfully generous” of him either. Also, Maiev is currently one of the best night elven warriors and war leaders, there is also Jarod but we dont know if he is better then Maiev or no. Plus without that ritual she wouldnt have won at Darkshore... which Anduin refused to help her. Basically - blonde choirboy keeps messing up her people and then makes it look like SHE is in the wrong. Like trying to force her to sign a treaty that potentially fucks night elfs up even more.
@@MrVlad12340 Well... if we are talking about Anduin's stupid decisions, telling his SPIES to let the enemy know that they were watching them and actively ensuring that they were visibly active would be at the top amongst that entire debacle of poor decisions... Though in regards to Silithus... that isn't entirely on him as his spymaster and his advisors also encouraged that decision as a preemptive strike. In regards to Maiev however; I stand by my statement about her being a poor choice. I completely agree that she is one of their best fighters, but she is too volatile, vindictive, and/or unstable to be the leader of the entire Night elf forces. Jarod would definitely be the obvious choice as he is essentially the founding father of the "original alliance". Even Shandris would be an obvious choice. I understand that these are despite times for the Night elves , and the old adage definitely applies, but there are too many erratic and narrow minded decisions (with too high a potential cost for her people) for Tyrande to be justified... even if her motivations are valid and the night warrior gambit did pay off.
King varian being the chosen of the wolf demigod was the start of the decline in the story that would be WoW. Yea, Garrosh went from honorable to using underhanded tactics but it was also the start of the change of the alliance leaders, they started getting plot armor and would not only survive an attack but get a stupid buff as well, while horde leaders would die or pull a Garrosh.
I’m confused about the Maiev part, before she was found in black took hold she was in the vault of the wardens before going after gul’dan. Was she missing before that aswell?
The events of the book are followed my maiev and khadgar tracking down gul'dan before he opens the gateway. The fail, she goes and releases the illidari. She's then tracking down gul'dan as he's hunting for illidan's body and she vanishes in a portal, going after her charge. After that we track her down with jarod
Kargath Bladefist (WoD) they dont want war hut they sure dont want to give up anything they taken during this war. So its mighty hypocritical of them to imagine that just “not wanting more war” excuses you of warcrimes.
Man so much awful story that is so much hand waving of someone being a chosen of X giving them the power to take on whole armies! It makes the point mute of having a skilled warrior as magic will outdo literally all of it and that is before even getting to BFA! Just man so much on both sides not mentioned so a faction doesn't even know who they are allied with! Followed by despite the Alliance taking the greater losses one victory on the Zandalari just happens to make the Horde fall back on all fronts? Eye roll worthy at its best. If it follows the trend Shadowlands will be really fun but how many times can we give excuses to Blizzard for building this crap upon a beach sand foundation.
Just wanted to add that aside from Zandalar, Alliance canonically wins Arathi and Darkshore warfront. Although Darkshore victory was more Night Elves, Gilneans and a bunch of garrison commanders/generals now serving as champions rather than primary Alliance military.
Night warrior plotline was so fucking stupid. Legion invasions were much more dire than 4th war, Tyrande would have used the ritual during the war of the ancients 100%. And the worst part, it didnt lead story anywhere, only thing it did was setting up tyrande as next big bad.
Right now Tyrande assumed the embodiment of Elune's wrath. She will likely stay in her obnoxious personality for a while, like that. Still, I really hope they are not going to make Tyrande the "good character who turns evil and killed" character 10.0. We had enough of that. A much better plot would be if she discovers the matter with Elune. Why she doesn't respond as she used to. Elune is probably being corrupted by some void powers or maybe it even has to do with the Jailer. Either way, Tyrande discovers it and frees Elune, surely no one fits this role better than her. With that, Elune would be able to lend Tyrande even more power and help her defeat Sylvanas and maybe even the Jailer at hand. I could also see a situation where Elune is unable to return and Tyrande takes her place instead. She could easily defeat Sylvanas that way and maybe even save her from being sent to hell. At least that's what the original Tyrande would have done. Ultimately, what I am saying is that Tyrande might assume a role beyond her current one and that's how Shandris may assume leadership of the night elves.
Tyrande Whisperwind i dont see whats wrong to be angry when your allies abandon you, your “High King” sells you out to your enemies and those enemies get away with a ruthless genocide of your people.
@@MrVlad12340 There is nothing wrong with that but Tyrande should be a character who shouldn't be consumed my rage so easily. She assumed Elune's wrath form so I guess that's also a reason why she is so aggressive but right now she is nothing like her old self in WotA anymore. I hope that, instead of going completely berserk, Tyrande will experience new enlightment and find back to her calm and soothing priestess self that she is meant to be.
Hi Nobbel I just want to say Ive watched you for years and youve inspired me to start my own channel. Ive posted some videos (like killing heroic nzoth, or the end of the wod legendary questline) but i havent done any commentary. Yet. This isnt me trying to plug my channel or anything its just me saying...thanks
Bro the night elves got thier ass kicked in wow in everything back in wc3 the naga was such a joke to the night elves now the NF cant kill 1 orc /: feels bad
Appreciate the work to bring up all the information together, but the way you read it makes it seem like sarcasm sometimes and it get's kinda annoying having that repetitive reading style on and on.
When will the devs stop shitting on the nelves, for real? Nelves are almost as popular as humans yet devs treat them as if they were an npc race. I don't understand.
The subtle clenching of fist of Greymane says a lot from the cutscene when Anduin tries to comply that he believes the peace with Horde after Sylvanas works. Bitter man bitter fists.
Anduin: There is no warchief, but a council. Led by Baine, Thrall, and- Tyrande: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL Literally the two most peace-driven guys are leading united and she is still pissed. I get her anger, but still. Her anger should be solely for Sylvanas, not the Horde. Suarfang even said he struck without honor and died fighting Sylvanas, yet she's still anger-driven.
The Fallen Angel Raven maybe because Horde still occupies Ashenvale, refuses to pay reparations for genocide and was supporting Sylvanas (rebellion was very small part of it) until the very end? There are some crimes that require more then “duh, maybe i will not do that again this time” to get away from.
Genocide the vwrmine goblins of azshara and thw horde occupancy of ashenvale!!! The horde is just the pest of azeroth fuck them! Even tauren became so irrational like dogs just doing whatever the warchief orders to do so. Do horde races instantaneously absorb orcish culture and lose their own own?
All of the horde FOLLLOWED SYLVANAS AT SOME POINT IN TIME, and only a few rebelled and tooook a lot of time while theyve done enough harm already. I cqnt even tellnwhat i wantnto coz English aint my native. But the lore is just fucked upburgggg
All of the horde FOLLLOWED SYLVANAS AT SOME POINT IN TIME, and only a few rebelled and tooook a lot of time while theyve done enough harm already. I cqnt even tellnwhat i wantnto coz English aint my native. But the lore is just fucked upburgggg
Something tells me that Shandris would be the new leader of the Night elves if Tyrande keeps this up most likely in the next expansion. Don't me wrong Tyrande have all the reason to want vengeance against Sylvanas but we've been down this road before with none other than Sylvanas (when she wanted revenge against Arthas) and look how that turned out. There's nothing wrong about getting vengeance but you must keep in check or else you'll make foolish decisions that may cost you, your people or/and your faction dearly.
Martin Blom 1) Horde was still far from “ending” the war. 2) Its only “right” because Sylvanas chose to destroy the peace after Legion. Back then it was a split hair from unity of factions. 3) Sylvanas planned to kill everybody, Horde included for her master.
Well, nice words but I really wouldn't say that Malfurion and Tyrande brought peace to everyone... they have been "not so nice" to some people even before Tyrande went full Revenge and Rage during this AddOn
Gunnar Karotte so you will just ignore the fact that Horde ploughed through her lands AGAIN after she gave up a zone to them and was the one to initiate those talks?
@@MrVlad12340 You love answering to a post with little connection it seems, just because you answered the other one, eh? Fact here was: Tyrande and Malfurion were dicks towards others WAY earlier in their respected storylines. So they clearly are not the "bring peace to everyone" kind of guys. But I think its funny, shows what kind of lore person you seem to be... it is somewhat fitting though.
I feel offended. But thinking back on my old wow days I cant deny the countless of naked night elf players in storm wind lol. Well that is just players and the actual lore isn't so weird Haha
If the Nelves want to know why Elune abondoned them? They grew an un-blessed tree on azeroth in her name birthing the emerald nightmare. I wouldnt be surprised if Azeroth didn't wake up and seal her in the moon for that and went back to sleep in the same instance. The elves hubris have put azeroth in danger nearly all of azeroths history. Thats why some people say the trolls actually devolved into the elves..
@@MrVlad12340 1) The aspects are not Azeroth and dont have her permission. The titans gave them authority. 2) Why would Tyrande ask the question if she was given that power?
Kiyu Madkick 1) Ysera and Alextrasza did that and they do have an authority to decide. 2) No idea, blizzard writing i guess. Same as how nathanos survived a battle with both malf and tyrande.
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She deserves to be in the forefront of the night elves race with a brand new model 😢
I think she looks fine now.
Random Dude nah she used to look sick as fuck with her face mask but hate how they took it off and they also replaced her bow
Seconded, think she should have a much cooler looking outfit.
Random Dude she looks like a level 45 Hunter, with the gear you get from Dungeon finder.
She needs a cool new proper sentinel general armour & bow
Maybe we're all first!
Good job with your videos Nobbs
i didnt want to watch past 25:25 yet since i havent seen it in game yet, but may someone tell me what/where this starts? is it the end of the Nzoth questline, or the quest (i havent done yet) given to you by jaina on the ship?
@@BloodmoonPictures yap killing nzoth unlocks it
Nobbel do the shadowlands alpha
I think it was paternal love Malfurion and Tyrande have for Shandris that made the flower bloom.
Ah yes, Jarod, the most elven name ever..
This happened to my buddy Jarod
Wow. Shandris did a lot. She was even in Feralis. That is my favorite zone in the game. Awesome! I can't tell if her class is hunter or warrior. When Jerod finds Shandris he should say something like one of the flirt emotes for male drenai. The quote is something like this. "I had a girlfriend once. I lost her in the crash. That's the bad news. The good news is I'm availiable!" Speaking of love I am shocked that Tyrande and Malfurion took ten millenia to get married. That is forever. I thought they would be married much sooner than that. Even with the love triangle with Illiden, it still shouldn't have taken so long. Towards the end of the video, I agree with Tyrande. Telledrassil was destroyed. That is my favorite starting area. I have lots of nostagic feels for the place. The Horde derve to get thie but kicked for burning it down.
Shandris deserves her own model :D
so does Tyrande ): the new model they gave is just a generic one.
@@frankielofaro4778 How is it generic? entirely new face, hair, hair color and clothing
I wouldn't say Generic, but the quality feels like a drop from how she looked during Legion
Raiden SSJV because u can make ur character look pretty much exactly like that. Yes she has different armor but the face is something u can pick in the character Customization menu. The hair is technically new but pretty similar to one that is in the game.
Forgot how involved in the story she has been
It's so awkward with the bandage and tailoring trainers standing there during an important convo, lol.
5:26 I think you mean Fandral not Falstad. I recall Falstad attended Tyrande and Malfurion's wedding, so I doubt he could attend if he was imprisoned.
lmao that i did, woeps
@@Nobbel87 it's all good, Nob. No one is perfect.
@@Nobbel87 You do know you're going to get your own Red Shirt Fact Checker now, right?
Hey nobbel! Do Chen Stormstout! He's been around since WC3 as you know!
I always enjoy your content . Can't wait for Shadowlands lore !!
Thank you for this video series. Shandris is one of my favorites!
That final cutscene, with all the leaders of the Alliance, and the dialogue between Tyrande and Shandris, how do I see that in the game?
Tyrande impression:
"Elune save my daughter. Elune help me kill Sylvanas..."
Also Tyrande: "Elune never helps..."
I should Thank you nobble after this videos i went to nelf related zones (Teldrassil is my grayard) and dungeons for the lore (reading the journal) and end on the emerald nightmare raid and dung. Got the spaulders from a Bonus roll on heroic. All because of this Thank YOU
11:00. Good thing Malfurion wasn't a bald airbender coz he would've been 100 years too late.
Blizzard’s so good at wasting story plots; they recon their own books and lore do much that the lore is all fucked up now.
I like tyrande's character, I like although she is a priestess, she is also a stone cold warrior. I glad they did that, because with the draenei and anduin there would have been too many peace seekers on alliance side. Its good they making tyrande so aggressive because if they didn't it would really make only the horde seem like the only aggressors. So I am not hoping for tyrande's arc to be finished anytime soon, I at least want to see her as a big part between a few more major conflicts between horde and alliance. Though I will say most likely what will happen is tyrande will eventually retire with malfurion, to some sacred lands and let Shandris take the mantle of high priestess. They seem to be really setting that up. I highly doubt they would kill her off because she been the face of night elves for ever, so yes they will probably do to her like they did thrall
I want to see Jaina team up with Alleria and Tyrande, and finish off Sylvanas once and fore all! Even with her new death powers she shouldn't be able to stop the three of them combined! So far in game and lorewise only Alleria and Tyrande are on a mission to kill Sylvanas, Jaina is not completely on board with this.
@@dontlaughtoomuch11 You may be onto something with their combined abilities overpowering Sylvanas's death powers. Let's see, Jaina could potentially flood entire Orgrimmar with a tidal wave, making her one of the most OP mages currently in Azeroth, Tyrande is now incarnation of Elune's wrath which makes her pretty much a one woman army, though so far we only seen her one shot a regiment of Horde soldiers in Darkshore, but it's still a lot of power, and Alleria... well, aside from having seemingly better control over Void powers than other Void Elves, which are quite OP themselves, she is also a skilled ranger and quite a wild card, planning and proceeding with executing the plans of an orc holocaust back in Warcraft 2(Quote: "The Alliance wants every orc dead. So do I. We can work together on that.") for the murder of her family at the hands of the Horde, which kind of makes her WoW's equivalent of The Punisher imo. So yeah, I'd say those 3 could probably take Sylvanas on.
@@Kubapajonczek Sadly from the Shadowland trailers, it's obvious and transparent that Sylvanas will most likely come out of that expansion unscathed! They have written her to be this all knowing, all scheming, all powerful strategist that never endures setbacks since becomming an undead, and that is getting boring really quickly.
Great video! Always fun to watch them, I hope someday you would cover the storie of Halduron Brightwing to 🙂!!
I feel like shandris will be next priestess of elune, manly because of what’s happening with tyrande now in the current story.
Though I could be wrong. Who knows?
Also please do a history of tyrande and malfarion.
She'll probably become next leader of nelfs since Tyrande will probably go insane with vengeance and become a raid boss or smth.
Crownsnek which is total bullcrap since Tyrande is rightfully angry at the Horde. Anduin wants her just “let bygones be bygones” a genocide against her people.
@@MrVlad12340 Rightfully angry... Absolutely. But for her to publicly disrespect the person who is offering your people sanctuary in the aftermath of a tragedy, then leave those same people to undertake a suicidal ritual ( only 1 person in over 10,000-12,000 years had succeeded in this ritual), where you threatened your goddess to make you essentially a "living banshee" to hunt down another Banshee Queen, and then as the High Priestess of Elune openly disrespect the goddess whose power you currently are harnessing despite that Goddess actively saving you for over ten millennia...She loses a considerable amount of sympathy as a character and credibility as a leader...And then she makes Maiev the leader of all of their armies... The same Maiev my of who set Tyrande's husband on fire and attempted to Murder an entire faction of people that had just been granted amnesty by both Tyrande and Malfurion... while leaving the investigation to uncover who was murdering them... Sorry no dice.
17mindgate if not for Anduin’s stupid decision to send their entire army to Silithus they wouldnt even needed the sanctuary. And allowing elfs to squat on his streets is not exactly “awfully generous” of him either. Also, Maiev is currently one of the best night elven warriors and war leaders, there is also Jarod but we dont know if he is better then Maiev or no. Plus without that ritual she wouldnt have won at Darkshore... which Anduin refused to help her. Basically - blonde choirboy keeps messing up her people and then makes it look like SHE is in the wrong. Like trying to force her to sign a treaty that potentially fucks night elfs up even more.
@@MrVlad12340 Well... if we are talking about Anduin's stupid decisions, telling his SPIES to let the enemy know that they were watching them and actively ensuring that they were visibly active would be at the top amongst that entire debacle of poor decisions... Though in regards to Silithus... that isn't entirely on him as his spymaster and his advisors also encouraged that decision as a preemptive strike. In regards to Maiev however; I stand by my statement about her being a poor choice. I completely agree that she is one of their best fighters, but she is too volatile, vindictive, and/or unstable to be the leader of the entire Night elf forces. Jarod would definitely be the obvious choice as he is essentially the founding father of the "original alliance". Even Shandris would be an obvious choice. I understand that these are despite times for the Night elves , and the old adage definitely applies, but there are too many erratic and narrow minded decisions (with too high a potential cost for her people) for Tyrande to be justified... even if her motivations are valid and the night warrior gambit did pay off.
the wedding : let the peace be forever
WOW : peace is not option !
adit ghifari well, Horde genocided her people so she has all the rights to be mad at them.
5:25 - I'm pretty sure you meant Fandral, right?
Duh. After all, isn't Falstad dead?
@@badtiming2208 Nah - he actually played a part in the Alliance War Campaign in BfA. In Stormrage, he attends Malfurion and Tyrande's wedding.
@@davidwilson2916 Look up Red Shirt Guy, dipstick.
Maybe the real first are the friends we made along the way...
Perfect video to end the week 💓
Nobbel could u do a complete history of Anduin Wrynn next?
5:25 damn he didnt even do anything
Carrot somewhere right now red shirt guy is freaking out
King varian being the chosen of the wolf demigod was the start of the decline in the story that would be WoW.
Yea, Garrosh went from honorable to using underhanded tactics but it was also the start of the change of the alliance leaders, they started getting plot armor and would not only survive an attack but get a stupid buff as well, while horde leaders would die or pull a Garrosh.
And then theres ghost farts and bee farts.
Couldn't help but notice you have never done a video on Chen Stormstout.
I’m confused about the Maiev part, before she was found in black took hold she was in the vault of the wardens before going after gul’dan. Was she missing before that aswell?
The events of the book are followed my maiev and khadgar tracking down gul'dan before he opens the gateway. The fail, she goes and releases the illidari. She's then tracking down gul'dan as he's hunting for illidan's body and she vanishes in a portal, going after her charge. After that we track her down with jarod
Great vid! Could you update your one on Illiden.
Is that Warcraft 3 reforged footage or classic?
I have a lore question:
If the satyrs were created by the Legion, why did some of them align with the Old Gods (mainly N'Zoth and the naga)?
Plot holes?
@@leecrotty658 I guess so
Tyrande is 100% Right tho.
Nails it with the wolf and rider analogy.
She's completely right and justified.
Mario Banegas not really since no one on the Horde council wants a war.
Blizz Writers: Well...
Damn it....
Kargath Bladefist (WoD) they dont want war hut they sure dont want to give up anything they taken during this war. So its mighty hypocritical of them to imagine that just “not wanting more war” excuses you of warcrimes.
Was that San’lyn ever mentioned again? Cause that’s a pretty good weapon at the Hordes disposal
DShobz Gaming Alliance kinda killed them all in their War Campaign and burned their corpses with the ship too.
VladTutushkin Well that’s good use of an asset
Am i the only one who says "see ya " in the end of the video at the same time as Nobbel ? :D
Shandris makes the worst rogue helm look like the best
Is Jared and shandris still a thing? Can you say home wrecker
ExelArts - hardly. Jared’s wife DIED. Can’t be a home wrecker if one of them is a widower and the other has never been married/involved with anyone.
Hey @Nobbel87 can you do Lothraxion lore video?
Man so much awful story that is so much hand waving of someone being a chosen of X giving them the power to take on whole armies! It makes the point mute of having a skilled warrior as magic will outdo literally all of it and that is before even getting to BFA! Just man so much on both sides not mentioned so a faction doesn't even know who they are allied with! Followed by despite the Alliance taking the greater losses one victory on the Zandalari just happens to make the Horde fall back on all fronts? Eye roll worthy at its best.
If it follows the trend Shadowlands will be really fun but how many times can we give excuses to Blizzard for building this crap upon a beach sand foundation.
Just wanted to add that aside from Zandalar, Alliance canonically wins Arathi and Darkshore warfront. Although Darkshore victory was more Night Elves, Gilneans and a bunch of garrison commanders/generals now serving as champions rather than primary Alliance military.
@@Kubapajonczek Darkshore is the one that actually made sense but not all the others.
Night warrior plotline was so fucking stupid. Legion invasions were much more dire than 4th war, Tyrande would have used the ritual during the war of the ancients 100%.
And the worst part, it didnt lead story anywhere, only thing it did was setting up tyrande as next big bad.
Right now Tyrande assumed the embodiment of Elune's wrath. She will likely stay in her obnoxious personality for a while, like that. Still, I really hope they are not going to make Tyrande the "good character who turns evil and killed" character 10.0. We had enough of that. A much better plot would be if she discovers the matter with Elune. Why she doesn't respond as she used to. Elune is probably being corrupted by some void powers or maybe it even has to do with the Jailer. Either way, Tyrande discovers it and frees Elune, surely no one fits this role better than her. With that, Elune would be able to lend Tyrande even more power and help her defeat Sylvanas and maybe even the Jailer at hand.
I could also see a situation where Elune is unable to return and Tyrande takes her place instead. She could easily defeat Sylvanas that way and maybe even save her from being sent to hell. At least that's what the original Tyrande would have done.
Ultimately, what I am saying is that Tyrande might assume a role beyond her current one and that's how Shandris may assume leadership of the night elves.
Tyrande Whisperwind i dont see whats wrong to be angry when your allies abandon you, your “High King” sells you out to your enemies and those enemies get away with a ruthless genocide of your people.
@@MrVlad12340 There is nothing wrong with that but Tyrande should be a character who shouldn't be consumed my rage so easily. She assumed Elune's wrath form so I guess that's also a reason why she is so aggressive but right now she is nothing like her old self in WotA anymore. I hope that, instead of going completely berserk, Tyrande will experience new enlightment and find back to her calm and soothing priestess self that she is meant to be.
Hi Nobbel I just want to say Ive watched you for years and youve inspired me to start my own channel. Ive posted some videos (like killing heroic nzoth, or the end of the wod legendary questline) but i havent done any commentary. Yet.
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Malfurion Stormrage = Kaguya Houraisan
Illidan Stormrage = Flandre Scarlet (Lunarian edition lol)
Tyrande Whisperwind = Eirin Yagokoro and Opposite Junko
Shandris Feathermoon = Reisen Udongein Inaba (Not the pet Reisen)
Janius = Tewi Inaba
Sally Whitemane = Remilia Scarlet
Cirno + Mima + Kanako = Arthas Menethil (Baka)
Deathwing = Okuu/Utsuho
Thrall = Alice Margatroid
Jaina = Marisa Kirisame
Admiral Daelin Proudmoore = Reimu Hakurei
Gelbin Mekkatorque = Nitori Kawashiro
Elune = Chang'e
Samuro = Youmu Konpaku
Lor'themar = Megumu Iizunamaru (Blue Aya)
Khadgar = Hecatia
Arthas should come back as a Youkai or a Kyrian?
When World of Warcraft has simular characters to Touhou
Bro the night elves got thier ass kicked in wow in everything back in wc3 the naga was such a joke to the night elves now the NF cant kill 1 orc /: feels bad
Appreciate the work to bring up all the information together, but the way you read it makes it seem like sarcasm sometimes and it get's kinda annoying having that repetitive reading style on and on.
Fartstriders! XD
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When will the devs stop shitting on the nelves, for real? Nelves are almost as popular as humans yet devs treat them as if they were an npc race. I don't understand.
The subtle clenching of fist of Greymane says a lot from the cutscene when Anduin tries to comply that he believes the peace with Horde after Sylvanas works.
Bitter man bitter fists.
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Anduin: There is no warchief, but a council. Led by Baine, Thrall, and-
Tyrande: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL
Literally the two most peace-driven guys are leading united and she is still pissed. I get her anger, but still. Her anger should be solely for Sylvanas, not the Horde. Suarfang even said he struck without honor and died fighting Sylvanas, yet she's still anger-driven.
The Fallen Angel Raven maybe because Horde still occupies Ashenvale, refuses to pay reparations for genocide and was supporting Sylvanas (rebellion was very small part of it) until the very end? There are some crimes that require more then “duh, maybe i will not do that again this time” to get away from.
Genocide the vwrmine goblins of azshara and thw horde occupancy of ashenvale!!! The horde is just the pest of azeroth fuck them! Even tauren became so irrational like dogs just doing whatever the warchief orders to do so. Do horde races instantaneously absorb orcish culture and lose their own own?
All of the horde FOLLLOWED SYLVANAS AT SOME POINT IN TIME, and only a few rebelled and tooook a lot of time while theyve done enough harm already. I cqnt even tellnwhat i wantnto coz English aint my native. But the lore is just fucked upburgggg
All of the horde FOLLLOWED SYLVANAS AT SOME POINT IN TIME, and only a few rebelled and tooook a lot of time while theyve done enough harm already. I cqnt even tellnwhat i wantnto coz English aint my native. But the lore is just fucked upburgggg
Not another power couple leading the elves... Please...
Something tells me that Shandris would be the new leader of the Night elves if Tyrande keeps this up most likely in the next expansion. Don't me wrong Tyrande have all the reason to want vengeance against Sylvanas but we've been down this road before with none other than Sylvanas (when she wanted revenge against Arthas) and look how that turned out. There's nothing wrong about getting vengeance but you must keep in check or else you'll make foolish decisions that may cost you, your people or/and your faction dearly.
jmcghane she isnt even half way to Justice. Let alone Vengeance. She will have to go much further if she is to become “as Sylvanas”.
#hateboner2020
So... how come Vulpera get a fluffy tail and Worgen got nothing?
Horde got the better Furry. ;-)
I really hope that Tyrande falls, she's such an annoying character. She deserves it after smoking all that silverleaf pipeweed.
Aethus why? Because she dosent want to kiss and make up with the Horde?
I predict Tyrande to be a villain in Shadowlands! You saw it here first, remember! ;)
How can she be a villain if actual villain is Sylvanas?
First
Tyrande quote with Anduin , prove that Sylvanas was right. Horde almost end this war and secure the peace.
Martin Blom 1) Horde was still far from “ending” the war. 2) Its only “right” because Sylvanas chose to destroy the peace after Legion. Back then it was a split hair from unity of factions. 3) Sylvanas planned to kill everybody, Horde included for her master.
Well, nice words but I really wouldn't say that Malfurion and Tyrande brought peace to everyone... they have been "not so nice" to some people even before Tyrande went full Revenge and Rage during this AddOn
True, how they treated Illidan in Legion comes to my mind.
Gunnar Karotte so you will just ignore the fact that Horde ploughed through her lands AGAIN after she gave up a zone to them and was the one to initiate those talks?
@@MrVlad12340 You love answering to a post with little connection it seems, just because you answered the other one, eh?
Fact here was: Tyrande and Malfurion were dicks towards others WAY earlier in their respected storylines. So they clearly are not the "bring peace to everyone" kind of guys.
But I think its funny, shows what kind of lore person you seem to be... it is somewhat fitting though.
Gunnar Karotte “somewhat fitting”, pffft, spare me your dimwitted sarcasm.
@@MrVlad12340 When did she give up land to the Horde? I'm not too familiar with the lore and it wasn't mentioned in the video.
No I’m first ;-;
the players who are 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 into being a Night Elf are 2000% weirder than any gnome player I've ever encountered
Kaldorei for Life ;-)
I feel offended. But thinking back on my old wow days I cant deny the countless of naked night elf players in storm wind lol. Well that is just players and the actual lore isn't so weird Haha
Lmao John Keeshan is so racist his questline in redridge always makes me uncomfortable
If the Nelves want to know why Elune abondoned them? They grew an un-blessed tree on azeroth in her name birthing the emerald nightmare. I wouldnt be surprised if Azeroth didn't wake up and seal her in the moon for that and went back to sleep in the same instance.
The elves hubris have put azeroth in danger nearly all of azeroths history.
Thats why some people say the trolls actually devolved into the elves..
Kiyu Madkick 1) Tree was blessed later on by Aspects. 2) Elune was answering their prayers and still granted Tyrande her power.
@@MrVlad12340 1) The aspects are not Azeroth and dont have her permission. The titans gave them authority.
2) Why would Tyrande ask the question if she was given that power?
Kiyu Madkick 1) Ysera and Alextrasza did that and they do have an authority to decide. 2) No idea, blizzard writing i guess. Same as how nathanos survived a battle with both malf and tyrande.