Clone Beth vs. Pickle Rick: Does Choice Matter? - Rick and Morty Season 3 Episode 9 Breakdown
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"Did you get any of that?"
Issa good show
Metallic ringing
That was nickelodeon times i remember that from y childhood jajajajajaja i also say "did you get any of that" by the end of every episode
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you forgot the unintelligible noises before that
"...but there comes a time in every man's life where he must choose the foundation upon which his legacy will be built; One of compromise? Or one of blood?"
*PUTS ON BIRTHDAY HAT*
"Who's got a birthday?"
Excellent scene.
It would have been really cool if Jerry stayed as a telepath, even after breaking up with his space girlfriend.
But Jerry's gotta be Jerry, I guess ?
Aaumond Yeah. I'd like to see some character growth from him too.
He's not banging the alien chick anymore, so he lost his powers(the powers comes from banging the alien chick)
Jerry is a coward, but who can blame him? The universe is full of things that would quickly spell death for anyone who isn't Rick, and Jerry often finds himself dealing with those things due to his proximity to Rick. By the way the Huntress reacted when he was forced to be upfront with her, well... If he had tried to break up with her "the right way" the first time, they would have found bits of him splashed around the apartment on the next custody day. As it was, his life and the life of his kids was only saved by a deus ex machina.
All that said, solving the problem by throwing your own children to the wolves is unforgivably craven.
it important to note jerry is not only a coward ..he is also an uncreative moron.. he doesnt have the fourth sight to see how his bad action will get worst..
he use his children as away to get off his relationship because he doesn't expect his girlfriend to go psycho.. to be truly evil would be to know what its coming and not care
Also he basically chose a copy of Beth as his girlfriend. A strong, somewhat dominant character who also looks like he sees Beth. Just compare the huntress to the "Beth" that was created in their therapy.
Saying the kids are the fault for their relationship not working out might be his standard thought when he thinks about Beth.
I'm calling it now; season 4, we'll see the debut of the Tribunal of Beths... possibly to try and deal with the Council that Evil Morty's taken over.
Her clone wouldn't go "Blade Runner" huh? You mean like Sentient Robot Morty?
I AM ALIVE!
Technically, he only briefly did so. The override did ultimately work.
I would say "Oh but how does an identical clone have an override?" but I'm guessing Rick would just brainwash the clone or "turn it off".
Mitch Kettles if you can make a clone with its own memories there is no chance it will go crazy because unless it sees the original the clone will think it's the original. An ai mimics someone and can be aware that is not real, that or rick just rushed some ghetto androids
he learns from his mistakes
How is it even possible Tommy can procreate using the Froopy-creatures? Alright, I can understand with the humanoid creatures, but I highly doubt it is possible to naturally hydridise a human with an avian.
Well Rick does say that they have "imaginary DNA", though he doesn't elaborate on what that means. Not to mention they're all artificial constructs of Rick's own design. So scientifically there really isn't any precedence to go off of for their hybridization. I mean, froopy creatures give birth within mere seconds of mating and it's even strange that Rick even gave the creatures the ability to procreate in the first place. We also never get any clear genders, if Tommy can mate with all of them are they all female? It very well might have nothing to do with traditional sexual reproduction. The clouds are procedurally generated which falls more in line with computers. Rick knows about Cygerian virtual reality which relies on nanobots. Froopyland isn't a computer-based virtual reality, but maybe there's an element of nanotechnology that could allow for it. Basically, nothing in Froopyland is natural so there are quite a few ways it could potentially happen. I personally go with biosynthetic nanotechnology rendering gone haywire with the introduction of foreign agents (Tommy's splooge).
The episode just reminded me that I'm a piece of shit like my father...but I choose to go about things differently from this point forward... I can't just keep escaping from myself by numbing my feelings...I have to get over it and keep on keeping on.
Look up Shrodinger's Cat, Copenhagen's interpretation of decoherence, Many World's Interpretation, and Quantum Suicide.
Choice creates universes. Beth having a choice means she chooses both. Randomly visiting a universe with a portal gun means Beth visits ALL of them, creating an infinite amount of adventuring Beths.
Lester Jester not all of them since the fact of making a portal is a choice therefore it literally doubles the multiverse's universes
Mathor Sionur that's what I said. Opening a random portal means a version of her visits every universe.
Lester Jester not every universe: exactly 50% since there will always be universes she won't have travelled to.
Mathor Sionur what're you talking about?
Lester Jester infinite universes therefor there are some universes in wich no beth will ever travel
Im standing my statement that kiara is a spoof of liara from mass effect
Why did the police think that Tommy's dad ate him?
I like to think he ate a bunch of people but they could only catch him for Tommy and now they will be a father-son cannibal gang.
The answer is, don't think about it
athroughzdude Tommy was missing all those years, might have found some "evidence" the his father are him and that's why he disappeared
probably the mom, when a child disappears people look for someone to blame without and external menace the normal answer is that it is the parents fault and under that stress one parent breaks down and blames the other
athroughzdude The father was a known cannibal
If Rick had cloned himself when he left, I wonder how Beth would have turned out
Probably even worse
I don't think he left. I think he pretended to be flyfishin Rick using Jerry's hat so that he wouldn't have to worry about the government harassing him as he stayed.
Every Rick and Morty episode is your favorite episode heh
Hakon hey it's been a long day you should go to bed🐱🐱🐱🌙🌙🌃🔪🔪🛌
"one of"
they shit on quite a few of the episodes on the podcast
3:47 UGHHHH! NO I'M IN FRONT OF YOU JUST TURN AROUND!
So many channels cover shows without actually contributing any insight. I'm glad that this channel identifies aspects thematic connections and relevant branches of philosophy to give people more to think about and enjoy while watching these episodes.
Love, love, love wisecrack, love the podcasts. love all the deep thoughts and critical analysis of my favorite shows and movies. Thanks Jared! Always staying tuned!
5:50 "We all make choices, but in the end our choices make us."
In the end... He does put elbow grease into his daughter~
Gross
Tuna Damn it you beat me to it!
Anybody ever wonder if Roiland and Harmon put even half the thought into writing these episodes as Jared does breaking them down? Or do they and their writers just consistently fall ass-backwards into brilliance, depth, and philosophical paradigms by complete chance? Lol.
From listening to them talk, I think they're deliberately putting all these themes into the show.
Although, it would be great if it turned out that it was all just a happy accident.
Why did you skip Morty's Mind Blowers?
+WarDevilish we didn't have much to say
Fair enough, was wondering where the video was for it.
+Wisecrack Could you explore re-incarnations(memory erase); effortful/accidental enlightenment(realisation) followed by urge for liberation(from cyclical existence)
Kaushik Kumar what makes you, you? How much of your body and memories could be changed before you become someone else?
With the season 4 finale, it turns out Rick has not (or does not want) to learn from Dr. Wong. He still did not choose.
As bleak and depressing Rick and Morty can be, Rick's stance that intelligence allows you to choose your own path is motivational.
Isntr it his belief that intelligence actually traps you?
Or at least him specifically?
@@billiecruz4399 kinda. The speech he gives to beth in the fruipy land episode boils down to: If you're smart enough, then whatever you're doing is what you choose to do. Also, you'll realize the universe doesn't care and life is meaningless.
I like how every episode of this show begins with it being one of your favorites.
Kee p up the good work. Out of all the channels taking advantage of Rick n Morty you guys do the best
I would love to watch that rick and morty podcast but fuck paying for it
You dont need to pay to listen to podcasts. They are all free
I like how at the end of the episode they just blatantly shut down the question of whether the portal gun traverses time.
What happened to Rick's mechanical arm? Why is this being overlooked? He has a robot arm when Beth leaves and an organic arm when she returns.
On the podcast you guys were confused about the "ride the universe" conversation. Here's my take
Reality and universe refers to existence/life. Being "smart" means knowing there's no consequences for breaking society's rules.
Break the rules, grab life by the horns and ride it out, but inevitably the end comes and you die.
Rick told Beth to live her life as she wants until she dies. Because no matter what, we all end up in a shallow grave in the back yard
Why did Summer call Jerry sexist? What did he do that was sexist?
I have no idea
That Sound at 1:11 scared the shit out of me... am i the only one?
3:43 his eyes made me chuckle a little and now i feel bad... but im also sharing it so idk
This show never cease to amuse me.
The entire season arc is that nothing matters.
This whole season has been filled with loose threads that I don't think will get resolved.
The remains of the Galactic Federation creating a robot version of Birdperson.
That one Vindicators lady going villain and swearing revenge.
Evil Morty taking over the Council of Rick.
Now this.
The show's not ignoring these things, it's just saying "we COULD follow up on these events, OR do you wanna see Rick turn himself into a pickle?"
What animator are you using for Fleshy Jared?
So bummed out this season is nearly over, it's been excellent!
My favorites episodes so far have been 'the whirly durly conspiracy' and the the 'ricklantis mixup'. this show never fails to amaze. :)
Well, another theme that has been going on throughout the series is that there is no good and evil. Usually using rick to personafy this. I think what this season is doing is showing that nobody in the family is either good or evil.
To quote my father "it is what it is".
W. C.
Who's your father?
Then again, there is the point that Rick needs to believe that evil is just a social construct. If evil doesn't exist then nothing he does can be considered evil.
Nothing he does can be considered good either. In a multiverse where anyone can be replaced and even if you screw up the entire world you can just hop to another good and evil are merely shades of grey.
I'm pretty sure that Vindicator guy was right when he said "I have a feeling he needs that to be the case".
Biggest mistake fans of the show make is believe whatever Rick says is always the absolute truth.
That's not what "it is what it is" means. Saying morality is subjective (the point of these things in R&M) can be destructive to people, its good for phrasing arguments or testing boundaries but bad for everyday living.
Now, a good use for that phrase "it is what it is" is in reply to R&M spawning tons of kids who think good/bad don't exist when real evil exists in the world in very mundane ways.
Great stuff! I love Rick and Beth episodes, these are the kinds of pairings you don’t get to see much on television outside of several decades of the Simpsons and a few Meg episodes on family guy. They’re fun because Beth plays it so straight, she’s the least flawed and besides this episode the most responsible, maybe it’s happening because Morty asserts himself more and the divorce seems to have taken over his attention from his abusive grandfather, which tends to happen, it’s like forgetting you have a cold and then it goes away.
The therapists talk with Rick about choice always reminds me of the Oracle in The Matrix. Same tone of voice, I guess.
Man... never new Sartre had such a CRAZY EYE for detail.
How is it no one is critiquing this episode for the ham-fisted, out-of-left field backstory for Beth? Seriously?! There was no organic development for this character arc; all we've seen from Beth is someone with severe abandonment issues, but also is the cornerstone of the household. She's been the one counseling responsibility and acting most human. In the episode with Mr. Poopybutthole, the after credits scene has her mentally and emotionally destroyed for misjudging and falling on alcohol to numb the pain of her action. These aren't the actions and aren't the mindset of a psychopath.
Beth really hasn't even shown herself to be that brilliant in the show. Sure, she's a surgeon which obviously takes brains, but not brilliance. Morty talks down to her just a few episodes before when Beth can't even think rationally on how to deal with giant Summer. When viewing alternate realities in season 1, she doesn't see herself going on murder sprees or gallivanting through the universe like Rick, she see's herself as a human surgeon.
Instead of comparing this episode to pickle-Rick, compare it to the Jerry episode. "Dumb" Jerry has been done to death and it's well established, but that episode took the common trope and added dimensions to it; Jerry is a predator, using his pathetic nature to entrap people. It reinterprets what we've seen in a new, interesting light. Then we have this Beth episode where not-that-brilliant Beth and certainly not evil Beth is clumsily and suddenly shown to be evil, and the audience still is only told she's brilliant. Sure we have a few episodes strictly from season 3 (hoof art, the psychiatrist, and out-of-touch mom with Giant Summer), but these are late additions that feel incredibly clumsy as well.
@Wisecrack, I love you guys and your channel is my favorite, but please, please don't just sweep sub-par writing under the rug just because an episode flashes a really shiny, cool sentient switchblade.
John Gardner agreed, rick saying shes psychopathic and him only hiding her as a child to not let her wreck havoc in the town felt super forced because it all came outta nowhere
@John Gardner You really have a point. I always felt that Beth was just a person who was thrown into the circumstances of a family and she took responsibility for it, trying her hardest to maintain it - even though it didn't always work in a healthy manner.
JinJinDoe I feel bad for her.
It's not choice that matters. Responsibility matters.
I think the creators left the clone thing open ended just so that they could eventually throw a twist at any time to spice things up by having her come back (like they did with evil morty).
Like rick said, "No matter what you choose you'll chill the fuck out"
Beth definitely left.
I listened the two podcasts you were in and now I'm watching this. I guess that's why your name is wiseCRACK
Are we not gonna talk about rick having gadgets for any situation like he's batman? He goes into a place that he thought was safe and gets his arm chewed off, only to immediately remedy the situation with a high tech prosthetic (not complaining btw I think this is really cool)
I feel that Tommys dad ate a Tommy clone. It would make sense that the cannibalistic behavior would be inherited. Beth just remembers that the crime happened which means it probably did, and rick just went with it, not giving a crap either way about froopeland and it's inhabitants until Beth started criticizing it.
I find it interesting how we all easily accept that Beth was/is a sociopath.
But children are often that way. At least in their own thoughts children often have very cruel ideas, and the more powerless they feel the more they wish for having power to control their world. Which is why kids love superheros and supervillains.
But usually kids don't have fathers who will create everything they can think of and give them basically all the power they want if they only ask for it.
I don't think Beth is a sociopath, she just was raised in a bad way, by being told way to often how smart she is, how much better she is than others and by having been given all she wished for.
I just wonder how Rick had so much influence over her and why her mom didn't step in in time.
I think it comes down to Rick having intelligence but not wisdom. He is intelligent enough to know how to build a pocket dimension that looks like a piece of chalk by collapsing a quantum tesseract, but not wise enough to know that Beth's violent actions were just a cry for attention he was neglecting. Just like how he is not wise enough to go to a universe that has his favourite sauce on the regular menu, despite being fully able to go to a universe without daylight savings time to get pizza late in the evening.
just want to say wisecrack cant think of anything impressive to say.love your work.
"Am I Evil?"
"Worse, you're smart!"
God I love this show!
Peep 5:15. See poopybutthole? Choice really doesn't matter because no matter what Beth chooses, she isn't the C-137 Beth that we have been following, so the show would carry on like nothing has happened. She is the Beth from the dimension from which poopybutthole exists. So even if she did choose to leave, the clone would be identical so we wouldn't know, and it's not even the dimension for which we have been following. It just proves that nothing even matters, not even choice.
Thank you so much for not filling your content with over analyzing and repetition to hit the 10 minute mark on your videos.
Guess what she has 2 of ;)
Finn Byrne Choices.
Episodes where she is in the A plot
miller repin Which is the other one?
Pussies
ThatQuiet GUY I don't think you got the reference. Either that or we have very different taste in humour
I appreciate seeing fleshy Jared. Saw you guys on FBE yesterday
stop pronouncing sartre like that
Beth claims that she hates to admit that she watches the bachelor but she seemed pretty engaged to it in Rixty Minutes.
I really didn't like this episode, idk it just doesn't work for me.
I think I'm one of the few people who believes that Beth chose to stay.
As Jared says here, in Beth's situation what's more important than the consequences is the choice itself. She may be a terrible mom sometimes, but I think she genuinely does care about her family, and she isn't as afraid to admit that as, ah, some other parental figures in this show. Much of what she does throughout is motivated by either keeping her dad around, or keeping her family as a whole together and happy - she clearly cares, even if she isn't always good at acting that out in everyday life.
The way she goes to look at her pictures of her family and then immediately makes her decision tells me that she was thinking about this before she made her choice. Yes, she can choose to leave and the others in her family will face no negative consequences (in theory), but in reality that means that SHE is missing out on her family. And as much as they stress her out, I think she's forced to realize whether or not she herself actually loves her family, and whether or not she herself would choose them over a life of relative solitude.
If Beth leaves, she will always know that she chose to give up her family. The fact that she left them without negative consequences won't cancel out the personal reality that she rejected them. But if she stays, then she knows that she has chosen her family, and whatever comes of that she's already answered the question of whether or not she really loves her family or wants to be there.
I think that's why Beth seems so happy and at peace when Morty and Summer come home at the end of the episode. It's not because she's a clone - because bear in mind, a clone would be "an exact copy in every way", including Beth's unhappiness and repressed identity crisis. Real Beth is getting a catharsis during this episode, but a clone Beth will still have the same insecurities with none of the catharsis and none of the peace-making choice, as Rick will prevent her from leaving and probably won't give her the same revelation as 'our' Beth got. If Rick and Morty came home to an "exact copy" of their mother, they'd come home to a Beth that's pretending to be okay but isn't really, and is still just as insecure and self-repressing.
But an original, staying Beth has accepted that she chooses to want this life, and thus is embracing her role as a mother and a loving family member. Of course she's so much happier - she's answered most of her own questions regarding whether or not she's trapped and what she wants to do. She isn't trapped, and she does want to be here. Sudden changes of mood from realizations like that aren't unthinkable or even uncommon.
So yeah, I think we're way more likely to see a happy real Beth than a happy clone. And because of that, I think Beth stayed.
And I'm just here weirded out by Jean-Paul Sarte's eyes....
He must've had insane peripheral vision.
I bet you I can predict the plot of an oncoming episode. Ready?
Beth chose to leave her family and have a clone with all her memories and feelings replace her. She goes on her own adventures in a very Rick like fashion, experiences a bunch of bullshit, blah blah blah.
Meanwhile, the clone does something unexpected. The clone *chooses* to be a better mom for her kids. This is shown through a series of oncoming episodes where she decides to be more open to the idea of going to family therapy, she becomes more encouraging to her daughter, she apologizes to Morty for not appreciating him more and expresses pride for him. And maybe she even decides to get back with Jerry, who knows? Overall she puts in the effort to patch her family back up.
But then . . . Beth decides to come back, and unfortunately it's at an unideal time where Rick is lost in one of his adventures, and she's discovered by her clone before she can kill the clone off using her detonation device (maybe because the clone noticed her as she was talking with her family or something). The clone has the horrid realization that she isn't the original and that everything she thought she knew was a lie. Beth tells her why she came back: because throughout all of her traveling and all her adventuring she discovered that the one thing she was missing in her life was honest to God nurturing and companionship, and the only place she ever got that from was from her family. She finally realized why Rick decides to keep coming back despite being just as able to leave it all behind.
The clone decides to fight Beth for her right to live. Even if she isn't the original Beth, she loves her family too much to give them up, and justifies her trying to kill the original by saying she was a better mother than the original Beth ever was. The family notices this and is divided on what to do. Technically they know the clone staying alive wasn't supposed to happen, but they've grown an attachment to the clone who brought their family back together and they are disillusioned by their mother leaving them. Jerry makes a move to tackle the original Beth and destroys the detonation remote that would have killed the clone to defend her. Further Hijinks ensues, the two Beths fight each other more. The original Beth gains an upper hand and moves in to kill the clone physically.
But then she pauses. She pauses due to an epiphany: She was convinced that she couldn't help being who she was because her alcoholic deadbeat father caused her to be a sociopathic egotist. But if the clone was just like her in every way . . . and CHOSE to be a better person for her family . . . . then that means Beth has literally no excuse for not doing the right thing. Meanwhile, the clone is deeply confused and depressed. She wonders what's the point of maintaining and thriving for a family if it wasn't up to her to build that family and fall in love with them? Is it even real love if it was just programmed into her psyche?
So the original Beth finally, FINALLY, does the right thing and commits to it, and offers the clone a deal. If the clone lets Beth have her family back, then in return she and Rick will work together to surgically restructure her. Give her a new face, remove the detonation device in her system, make her a citizen of the U.S. . . . give her her own identity. The clone goes on to live her own life and manages to start her own family which she knows she chose to love.
Meanwhile, the original Beth has issues regaining her families trust. She pleads for forgiveness but her family is resistant. But then Rick chimes in, saying it's his fault for giving Beth the idea to do this in the first place, and that even though he's been responsible for far more atrocities to the family than Beth, the family still chose to forgive him. He argues if they can do that for him, they can do that for Beth too. The family decides to forgive Beth and the conflict concludes.
Also, because there isn't enough pessimistic humor in this story, Beth and Jerry divorce again. Cuz fuck it.
Idk why they insist that rick was avoiding the blame of being a bad father, he outright openly says he knows and admits that part of him and his past. Jared made this point a couple days ago on the interdimensional rss podcast and was corrected. He said he understood but here he is again trying to make that false claim.
It's not really false. While Rick does tend to admit that he's a bad person at times there are loads of other times where he actively avoids blame, usually when confronted. Rick's very argumentative which is why this happens. Yes, he admitted to Beth that he was a bad father at the end of the episode, but for the rest of it he was highly defensive and refused to take any responsibility. So what Jared said for this specific episode still stands.
It would great if you guys could bring someone on from the show to your finale podcast on The Squanch. I binged the entire series after watching two of your breakdowns of previous episodes, and I love the show now. It's the least Roiland and his homies could do.
Lol
As much as I am a fan of both the TH-cam channel and The Squanch one of the problems I have is that the TH-cam breakdowns are slowly just becoming an ad for the podcast. The in-depth analysis are getting far shorter and while I understand spending double the time covering one episode of a show slowly becomes pointless, I think it would be best to start focusing on which one you'd like to do more. Personally I think the podcast tends to get the most in-depth about the episodes, not only because there are various perspectives but also because there is more time. Trying to make an hour long breakdown of an episode in video format takes a lot of time and one that tends to mean either setting aside other projects to rush a time sensitive one or it just starts to get sloppy.
I love the content, I just hope when next season rolls around you'll focus on just one medium or the other and not push yourself to accommodate two platforms with different styles. I also don't think anyone would be upset for just a podcast uploaded to TH-cam even if it isn't one with clips or videos.
I look forward to more content regardless!
OH MY GOSH STOP MAKING ME QUESTIONING EVERYTHING
Mr. Kizer face your fears
Choice is the wobbling you do before you make a descision.
Jared. I loved the podcast. But I was sad that you could not get the saddle the universe thing... it is easy. It never was a bull. You do not use a saddle to ride a bull. There is a rodeo event saddle broncs. But I think Rick/Dan Harmon means it like a cowboy breaking a wild horse, think John Wane. You have to ride the rough off, then you have spirited powerful horse. You still may get thrown at any time but you also can get more done you can go faster.
Am I the only one that didn't care for this episode? I absolutely loved the concepts, but it kind of felt like both plots were somewhat rushed B plots
i feel that the whole a plot and b plot always causes this
I agree. Both lines got hamfisted to us. This season has been a bit more forward with the messages, and I like that, but this episode takes it too far. It condenses the entire episodes in two monologues (summer for jerry, and rick for beth). Not just that, but they were so specific that people couldn't add their own nuances to make the message a bit more appealing or relatable.
I agree, still a good episode but I think it was the weakest of the season
B plot felt rushed for sure, Jerry would predictably still be wallowing in his misery at that time, not online dating, dude doesn't even seek out a job, why'd he seek out a girl? ( well to sustain could be one lol but now that he lived alone for a while we can assume that he's indeed working now )
I actually quite liked the episode. It felt like a return to form after Morty's Mind Blowers, which I thought was pretty meh.
well the thing with Beth is that a few things in the episode show that Beth was a terrible daughter that her parents couldn't handle, and while not being the whole problem, Rick is still part of the problem, the box of inventions he has for Beth paints him as a neglectful enabler, with froopy land being the icing on the cake, an imaginary world where Beth can't hurt herself, Rick could leave her there and do whatever by himself not getting involved, which doesn't lead to Beth being prone to jealousy, again, that's her issue, but it does lead to young Beth thinking rick doesn't love her, so she leaves Tommy in froopy land (honestly who can't get out of honey? honey trap?) I doubt what King Tommy does means anything, except being game of thrones on crack, but I'm pretty sure there's an old myth somewhere about a father eating his own children much like Tommy.
and why does everyone think BladeRunner has anything to do with clones? it's about androids who kill their creator and anyone else they need to because they think they deserve a longer, more human life. A bladerunner clone would probably kill the original and it's creator to have the normal human life of the original
I wish Incest was a mainstream appeal.
Legit af keep wishing for it bro, it could happen one day.
Legit af I can't tell if you're a troll or if you actually want deformed disease ridden children.
Marvelous Quasar Pork Man condom
Bctzkriegd Scientific research showed it causes people to develop behavioural deviances. Besides, condoms don't always work, and no one is ever smart enough to also use the birth control pill along with the condom.
Marvelous Quasar Pork Man obviously if i fucked my sister i would have ptsd, dont think anyone here was being serious.
I really enjoy watching your videos @Wisecrack :)
The topics you tackle with each episode are almost addictingly fascinating;
But I still have a minor critic, and that would be the constant movement of Jared's head when he talks; It's really disturbing :p
Keep it up
You're only having this episode because Rick Sanchez was on TV a few days ago.
Fake News?
money money money
They've done these every week since the season started.
i actually think it's unlikely that beth decided to leave, because if the current one is a clone, i feel like rick would've removed the clone's memory of the conversation about beth leaving.
Beth's not smart, everything before this episode shows her to be pretty dumb. You can't just tell the audience a character is smart because it needs to fit the episode.
Peter De Young this
Not really iQ smart like Rick more emotionally smart or creative
Consider: Is this the first Beth to leave? It's a perfect clone: all the memories, all the personality traits. So could there have been another Beth, the original, which has already left, and this one is a clone?
We can all agree that musical.ly is the worst thing to happen to rick and morty though, right?
At 3:34 in the video we can see portal gun replacement cartridges, or whatever it is. If Beth chose to leave do you think Rick would have given her a portal gun of her own? Maybe she'll return that way in a future season.
Schrodinger's Beth :D we'll never know which universe we're watching until we know what happened in that scene.
3:44 That fucking picture of sartre gave me nightmares
i was ruminating the statement of the psychologist in the context of free will, and how Rick took Morty's free will away when he chose to retoxify Morty in Rickst and Ricklaxtion against his will. But then again we can safely assume that hyper realist Rick is not a strong believer in free will
Beth's decision, while profound and meaningful to her, has absolutely zero consequence to anyone else. If she stayed, Beth would have made the decision to live a simple life, free from cosmic adventure.
If she chose to leave Beth is finally allowed to see the results of acting on her nihilistic tendencies. However, the Beth clone would behave in exactly the same way that Beth had been behaving, albeit without the option to "go Blade Runner". If and when Beth chooses to come back, you can be assured this change would go unnoticed by everyone and Beth would go back to acting the same way she did before.
Wrong episode number
oh man its wrong!
Darkknight 4917 it says nine
Jay Sherard it was 8
Darkknight 4917 nah that was morty's mindblowers
Is this entire channel about rick and morty
I'm gonna break the ice. This was the worst episode of R&M all seasons considered.
TheKrigeron I'd say Ricksy Business and Rickmancing the Stone are just as bad.
TheKrigeron no pickle rick and get schwifty are the worst
Anthony Herrera get schwifty was a jam....
Even for a troll your bad
duff man no
Rick has Aspergers/is an idiot savant and doesn't know how to properly vent his own emotions and would much rather not feel emotions at all because he doesn't truly understand how they work as he does with something like a computer/car/whatever gizmo that he can tear apart and study the internal workings and then modify as he sees fit. You can't study how emotions really work inside our bodies, because reactions to chemicals produced in our own bodies affect everyone ever so slightly, or drastically, different, especially when it comes to emotional states, but other external factors from our body, like, cyanide, affect us all the same, rick wants nothing more than to understand how everything, EVERYTHING, works, and once he sees the patterns in the design most normal people don't have the time to think about, he points it out because he doesn't understand why it isn't inherently obvious what is really going on in societal programming. Patterns are something you can study forever.
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It's living hell when you can't not think about things but also don't have the capacity to intricately bring other people down the path of thought you traveled to get to the conclusions you did. Because your mind constantly be-bops off trains of thought, non, fucking, stop, there is always somewhere more to go with information churning in your head because we never truly understand everything, but desperately want to.
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Ricks need to know WHY something is, oh, it's because of x, y, z, but is it really though? You sure it isn't a, b, c, d, the entire alphabet? Do you get why ricks ramble non stop? There's always somewhere to go with thought and what one can interpret from the information presented to them when they chew and chew and chew and chew.
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There is always more in the background noise, Morty, god don't you get it?
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Why can't you see what rick sees morty?
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Morties are normal people with normal brain circuitry.
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Shockingly enough, well, not too shockingly, to be completely frank, there are a lot of "ricks" out there, it's actually easy to spot the signs, but society masks ricks by making it a social taboo to point them out and say, there's something different about that kid, not all have the same capacity for "the whole picture" thoughts, thus all the specialized ricks who have their own unique tailored interests that their autism finds most interesting.
Ricks keep morties with them because they value having someone who can articulate the emotions (which they find dumb [because they don't understand them]) of a situation for them.
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Why do you think other ricks look at "stupid rick" as being stupid? Because he's in tune with his emotions and hasn't tried to get rid of them.
If you're wondering about these .'s it's because formatting on youtube comments section fucking sucks
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We're also afraid of ricks in real life, because we don't understand how their personal brain is wired to work, much like they don't understand what a "morty" person's brain is like.
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People on the spectrum can be absolutely fantastic at telling stories that have deeper meaning, they process information differently, and that isn't a bad thing, it is always good to have someone who can think about things in a more abstract, pragmatic, emotionless way. Not all of them can find an outlet to properly express how they feel about things and become jaded because they feel no one truly understands them, even if, they actually, truly do.
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"Everyone dies, no one is here on purpose, come watch TV?"
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That doesn't mean ricks aren't complete fucking assholes, it's just more often than not, there is far more to what makes them that way then they let on, because when they let on, people think they're fucking crazy, they also have a huge problem with accepting fault in their own actions, well, that's just humans in general.
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Jeez rick, don't you think you're reading into things a little too much?
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I don't know morty, I don't know...
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Rick's want to be understood, they wan't to not feel like they're less capable, they don't want to feel as if they are dumb because their brain works differently, nothing scares a Rick more than the thought of other, normal people, writing them off as being "mentally defective", but assume other "normal people" will judge them as such if they label themselves as being on said spectrum...
I value my morty dearly, not all ricks do.
"When you know nothing matters, the universe is yours."
Rick Sanchez is my spirit animal.
In the episode 9. Rick uses a clone of himself. Before or after the frupiland trip. LOOK AT HIS HAND! can it just grow back? During the pizza scene he has both hands. Maybe Beth a Rick, both ran away and left clones behind
I love your videos man!
Will you do Rick and Morty 3x 08??
Or just in The Squanch?
Well, given all the messed up things Rick made for Beth, like a whip that makes people like you or a sentient knife, i'd say Beth is as close to "evil" as one can get.
There is a lot to unpack.. i would like to think that Rick's were more or less incapable of denying their daughters the insane toys they demanded all the while knowing that they could literally just fix whatever they did... in our world it would be normal to just have a sociopathic child capable of murder, arson and any other assortment of nasty things committed to a psychiatric institution but Rick knew he could fix everything. He instead built his own institution for her and made it (almost) fool-proof. He could have just let her get committed but he instead took care of his daughter the best way he knew how. That's being a father, if nothing else.
Wow, I hadn't considered the possibility of Beth accepting the offer. That's really cool tho :'
I was a little worried when he said, "Fleshy Jared."
Sorry don't hate but Sartre reminds me of "The Shadow over Innsmouth."
It's funny because I just realized Risotto is voiced by the same guy who voiced Lex Luthor in the Justice League cartoons;
I also see Beth's acceptence of her "Rickness" as a symbolic rebellion against Jerry. In keeping with Rick seeing Jerry as a predator, this episode creates a filicidal cannibal who's actions mirror Jerry's actions in the episode.
Tommy's children, by virtue of their human DNA, are real and are therefore capable of harming Rick and Beth. In a sense, Tommy has weaponized sex and reproduction, similar to how Rick views Jerry's impregnation of his daughter.
What's more is that Jerry constantly bragging to his own kids about the details of his new sexual relationship is itself a form of weaponization. He seemingly hopes that the kids will relay this information to Beth, therefore harming Beth. The propaganda play put on for Tommy's children serves a similar function.
But more interesting, Jerry is, at least impulsively, willing to sacrifice his children in order to ensure his own survival. Cannibalizing them, so to speak. Rather than admit he was using this new relationship to get back at his ex-wife, Jerry gave in to his survival instincts and blamed it all on his kids, which put their lives in danger.
So in light of this, I see Beth's transition at the end of the episode, from wanting to help Tommy to just killing him, as a more complete rebellion against Jerry and the part of her life that he "stole" from her. It's also interesting that the ultimate absolution of guilt over the whole ordeal is solved through cloning, just as the ultimate absolution of guilt over walking out on her family is also solved through cloning.
Rick does not say that 'Beth is not evil just smart'. He says that Beth is not evil, WORSE. She is smart. You misunderstood what he said. Rick thinks if one's smart, the distinction between good and evil is meaningless.
Do Morty's Mind Blowers!
My question is: Has Rick shared this same explanation to Summer? Where he has already offered the same cloning information to her?
In episode 8, Summer was in complete response model to correct Rick and Morty's amnesia and took their insults on their recovery after her automated safety sequence in perfect '0% chance' response.
Forget Pickle Beth, show me A Plot Summer! Got my fly ice cream already on order. Keep S-u-m-m-e-r safe.
I never noticed before that Sarte was bonkle eyed