Even if you have chronic insomnia, sleep drive always wins - you can sleep and you will sleep!
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- If you have been living with insomnia for a long time, it can be so easy to believe that you have lost the ability to sleep or that you can no longer sleep naturally. The truth is, we never lose our ability to sleep - and, if we are awake for long enough, we will always sleep - no matter how worried or anxious we might be.
This is an important point to make since so much of our worry about sleep is connected to the thought that we have somehow forgotten how to sleep or that we are going to live with insomnia forever.
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Unfortunately, our arousal system is great at suspending sleep whenever we feel worried or concerned about sleep. However, the arousal system cannot suspend sleep forever.
By recognizing that sleep drive never goes away, and combining this knowledge with a regular and appropriate sleep window, you will start to sleep at night, and your sleep will become more predictable and more consistent.
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Sleep drive continues to build with every passing minute of wakefulness - so, as long as you don't do anything to reduce this accumulating sleep drive (for example by sleeping during the day, going to bed earlier, staying in bed later, trying to conserve energy during the day), you will - sooner or later - sleep during your sleep window.
As you start to get more sleep during your sleep window, you will start to regain confidence in your ability to sleep and this will make sleep easier. As sleep becomes easier, you will worry less about sleep - and this makes sleep even easier. The result is long term improvement in your sleep.
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Hello dear. How can I contact you personally to know more about one to one coaching? Thank you 🙏🙏
@@Hanaaalaraj You can email me directly here: hello@insomniacoach.com
"No amount of worry can prevent your sleep from happening" that's so curing for someone who challenged by sleep anxiety most of the time please keep talking about such s topics. I love you Martin!!
I appreciate you sharing that, Surafel! Thank you!
He is fabulous, isn't he :) it's bad to judge people by their looks but he looks so kind and warm too :)
Wow I could cry, I've been awake for 2 nights in a row and I starting feeling hopeless. Thank you for this
This is all us insomniacs need! Reassurance! 💪🏼❤️
Thanks for sharing! Reassurance is helpful AND important!
Hi vineeta...how are u doing now
I’ve experienced the sleep shark before, that’s what I like to call it. you’ll eventually come across a day that’s so draining and fatigue filled that there will be no anxiety or worry, just a longing for sleep and your body essentially melts and just…. Falls asleep and you’ll probably sleep for like 2 days straight.
The sleep shark - I like that name!
The recognition that sleep drive will always win, is indeed comforting. Its one of the few solutions to my situation, and its great to hear some assurance here :))
Thanks for sharing! I am glad to know you found this comforting and reassuring!
This video has been the most reassuring thing I've ever heard on insomnia. As someone who has gone 24 hours without sleep twice in a single week, I've been worried that my anxiety will stop me from ever falling back asleep. Just this video has made me feel a lot more reassured about catching sleep again. Thank you so much!
I am so happy to hear that because if we can worry a little bit less about sleep, we immediately create slightly better conditions for sleep!
I feel your pain Kenny and 100%. I also go days without sleep sometimes. This video is great for support. Most family members don't understand or care.
@@InsomniaCoach 100% best to go on about your day in most cases even if you have a bad night of sleep. Not to worry about it.
@@LevelSmackcom When we go about our day regardless of how we sleep, we give ourselves the opportunity to improve the quality of our days AND we help shift attention away from sleep. It really is a win-win!
a week for me((
Probably the best video I’ve seen on insomnia!
Thank you so much, Michael!
Married almost 20 years and my wife thinks I'm absolutely crazy. She's never understood my insomnia. I literally sleep an average of 3 to 4 hours a night. The best that I've come up with is acceptance. I just accept that this is my life and some days are better than others
You still sleeping 3-4 hours a night??
Is anything keeping you awake such as an active mind?
I've been struggling but your videos help me deal with the discomfort I've been going through instead of diving into catastrophe mode. I'm still dealing with sleep-related anxiety but you definitely help and I appreciate it. Thank you for taking the time to make these reassuring and informative videos.
I appreciate your feedback. Thank you for sharing!
What about those with chronic pain that suffers insomnia?. I literally wake up constantly! Any tips?
It actually doesn’t always. I went 10 days without sleeping, I had reality bending hallucinations. The text on books went blurry then transformed before my bery eyes. I didn’t drink coffee, or tea or chocolate. I had to be put on some pretty hardcore medications. I would just meditate in the bed for about 6-7 hours. I have neurological problems with memory short term. I tried all the CBTI things and this lack of sleep drive never came back. My doctors don’t believe me.
10 days without even 1 minute of sleep is close to the world record of 11 days - a fear that took the record holder immense effort to "achieve" - and they experience hallucinations, too.
Based on your comment, it sounds as though sleep happened at some point after those 10 days - so perhaps this suggests that sleep does still happen in the end?
Sometimes when we are really deep in the insomnia struggle we can lose all sense of sleepiness due to how alert our problem-solving brain is as it does its job of looking out for us. The more we try (understandably, I might add!) to make sleep happen, the more difficult it often becomes.
Things sound really difficult for you and I hope they improve soon. I am sorry to hear that your doctors didn't believe you.
Sure sleep drive wins but I can’t seem to stay asleep longer than an hour.
This video is very reassuring , ive battled insomnia on and off for many years due to health anxiety and generalised anxiety disorder. I know this will pass
Your videos are truely excellent, they have enabled me to get my sleep back on track. Thank you.
Thank you so much for your kind words! I am glad you are finding the videos helpful - you got your sleep back on track because of the changes YOU made in response to the information I share. So YOU are the real reason for your success!
This is going to sound strange but what about people who have a fear of the physical feeling of sleepiness?
I self monitor sleep and this arousal of course prevents me from sleeping…
My fear is the tiredness and physical symptoms of a bad night, so whilst I know my sleep drive we will win, the feeling I feel when I get to that point is what makes me nervous?
Hi I just want to say that I love your videos for very long time and I always love listening to your videos before I go to bed because they give me so much help and help me relax. But I must ask I know that I’ll eventually get to sleep a certain amount of time but will I ever sleep long enough to catch up with Any sleep that I’ve missed?
Anytime I don’t sleep in a bed other than my own I am unable to sleep. I went on a trip recently and I stayed at a hotel and for three nights I cannot sleep. I could only sleep when I returned home. Do you have any insight on this?
Hi!
In this video you talk about sleep drive always wins even if you have chronic insomnia.
I have a question regarding about insomnia. What if you don't feel sleepy at night or/
tired. What would you recommend i do?
Before my insomnia, I didn't generally feel tired in the evenings, but I usually fell asleep 5 minutes after I went to bed.
I've been awake for 40+ hrs and still barely felt sleepy I swear I feel like I can go over 100hrs before my body takes over
that’s crazy, you do have a lot of time to do something important!
Thanks for sharing that, even after 40+ hours, you know that sleep will happen in the end - because sleep drive ALWAYS wins in the end. One way we can work on making it a bit easier for sleep drive to generate sleep is to work on our relationship with sleep-related thoughts and worries since these can trick the brain into thinking that a physical threat is present - and when there is a real, physical threat present, that's not a time we want to be falling asleep!
Thank you for the video!
Could you give advice about Phonophobia and sleep issues? I can't relax without having my ear plugs and headphones on top with rain music to be able to relax to fall asleep. I get totally triggered by neighbor's noises. Feels like anxiety attacks, I guess it's trauma based. Any tips would be highly appreciated.
Is it 100% certain that sleep drive will win because lately ive had a few very good sleeps after battling with insomnia for a few months and now i cant feel the sleep drive at all until 5 am .And i also found out about karl mercieca whose sleep drive never won even after 10 days awake he had to take benzo to sleep. Its sad to see what can happen when your own mind turns against you.
Sleep drive always wins in the end - it's impossible to remain awake forever. I believe the world record for wakefulness is 11 days and this was achieved by someone who had to exert immense effort to remain awake for that long.
I guess i’m asking for advice, my insomnia started after i pulled an all nighter and was convinced i would never sleep again and just die, ever since then i’m so scared of going without sleep incase i go crazy or forget to sleep, i know it sounds stupid but my brain has convinced me that i can forget how to sleep and that causes me to not be able to sleep in the worry i don’t know how to sleep, is there any way i can shift this mindset to help calm my anxiety?
We never lose the ability to sleep - it just doesn't happen. When we've been awake for long enough, we will always sleep - no matter how anxious we might be. I wonder if you might find it helpful to make a bit of space for that anxiety to exist (it's just your brain looking out for you) and then engaging in actions that help you move toward the kind of life you want to live, even in its presence?
Great channel here. I’d love to get your professional opinion on my recent situation, as I don’t know if I should seek medication at this point. I slipped into acute insomnia a month ago after having bronchitis and having to sleep sitting upright in a chair. Sleep got bad for about a week and half, often not sleeping 1-2 full days.
After three weeks it cleared up. Over the next three weeks I’d have one night per week where I wouldn’t sleep at all.
This past week insomnia returned. I’ve been sleeping good one night, followed by the next night me not sleeping at all. It’s the zero sleep that worries me. I see a lot people talking about not getting enough sleep, but I’m going full nights without sleep! Can you give me some perspective given your experiences? I’m worried my ability to fall asleep seems almost broken.
Thanks!
It doesn't sound as though your ability to fall asleep is broken since you are having a night of no sleep followed by a night of good sleep - so we have evidence that when sleep drive is strong enough, you are sleeping!
The rollercoaster ride of sleep as you described it is a common symptom associated with allotting too much time for sleep/not having a consistent sleep schedule.
You might find this video helpful: How to stop the sleep roller coaster and make sleep more consistent and more predictable - th-cam.com/video/86qD_SFPd24/w-d-xo.html
@@InsomniaCoach Thank you so much for your response. I appreciate your channel and have been turning my clients on to your work. Cheers.
@@lucidwindowsstudio You are welcome - and I appreciate the recommendations!
All gratitude and thanks to you, man
I am so grateful for these. After years of insomnia I have found hope here. Hope is priceless. Thank you 🙏🙏
There is always hope! Thanks for sharing!
Hi Martin, if we put restriction and come out of the bed then what we will be doing in the midnight?
And what we should think while lying down or what beliefs we should have which will make us sleep?
Nice video yo come to when I go an entire night or so without sleep. This is a great support video if you don't have many around you.
I am so happy to know you find this video helpful!
what if you have insomnia after a gut infection such as Helicobater Pylori?I read somewhere a great deal of sleep hotmone is produced in yor intestines.
It's normal for sleep to be disrupted if we are unwell - once we have recovered, if sleep issues stick around then it's usually because of a change in our sleep-related thoughts and behaviors. That change can be what provides insomnia with the oxygen it needs to survive - and that's why I talk so much about behavior change and exploring our relationship with our thoughts in order to create better conditions for sleep. If we do that, we starve insomnia of the oxygen it needs and it cannot survive for the long term.
I've had chronic insomnia for 3+ years now. Yup. I feel like each and every day in a row for 3 years I haven't slept! Would this be applicable to me?
I think it might still be applicable to you since although it might feel like you haven't slept at all for three years, on reflection we can see that going without any sleep for that long would be impossible!
@@BloodSweatAndMeth Thanks for your contribution - I try not to make assumptions when reading viewer comments, and this viewer specifically said, "I feel like each and every day in a row for 3 years I haven't slept!". Often it's this kind of thinking (that we haven't slept at all) that can get us caught up in the insomnia cycle.
How is your sleeping now ?
How I would like to be your friend or very close to you to help me with this terrible insomnia that I have, God bless you I will be watching your videos and I hope I can feel better. 😭
I hope things get better for your soon. You might also want to enroll in my free two-week sleep training course here: insomniacoach.com/sleep-training/
Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the case for me :( i go so many days without sleeping at all! I once went 12 days, no lie...it is absolute torture. I feel like I'm such a rare extreme case, i just don't get it. How on earth can i go that long without sleeping....i tried sleep meds none seem to work for me, same with anxiety meds. My body is so sensitive to medication. I feel like there is no where to turn and it's very scary. I've tried CBTi and it didn't work for me.
Do you also never feel sleepy even if you haven't slept?
@@twodeadpxls yes. Things have gotten a bit better for me now, still not great but I’m sleeping more than I was. Now I’ll typically miss 1-2 days of sleep, not going as long of stretches.
Can you please talk about somniphobi? I m so tired and feel sleepy but i cant because im scare of losing control , i like to just sleep for 20 min but i cant .
Great video Martin! I can confirm bedtime restriction works in restoring sleep drive! I took a lot of convincing that this is even the case if you sleep only 2-3 hours a night to start with. My sleep window is around 5.5 hours and I sleep for most of that although I’m not quite sure how long as I have stopped checking the time which is another great tip! 🙂
Hi there how did you get there with CBTI?
Hichame Tour yes. Still work in progress.
I know you were hesitant to give sleep restriction a try - I am so glad you decided to give it a go and that you're getting results!
Jo Vale Thanks for the reply I needed convicting as well very scared to do it
@@hichametour3120 What it is about sleep restriction that scares you? The alternative, of course, is to continue whatever you are currently doing. Is that a more appealing option?
:( yeah except what happens for me is that this is inpractical for shift work. I can do this for 3 days ( days 2 and 3 of pure hell by day 3 I'll pass out sleep for 3 hours and reawaken) I'll be refreshed and feeling good for about 5 hours and then day 4 will be crap but tolerable I sleep restrict again and day 5-6 will be hell again. after which on day 6 I'll pass out for another 3 hours. I wish I could get off my tablets which are the root cause of this but I'd have to endure weeks of sleep deprivation while working 8 to 6 nearly every day.
I have tinnitus. How do I manage to sleep sufficiently when tinnitus wakes me up.
I have been doing this sleep regimen (out of bed from 7am to 11pm) for four weeks. Unfortunately, I seem to fall asleep now while sitting with my eyes open for moments at a time for 1.5 hours at a time and jolt myself awake. So my adenosine gets used up even though I am diligent about stay out of the bed for 16 hours. Is there any way to prevent myself from doing this? Also, when I can't fall or fall back sleep in bed within 20-30 minutes of getting into bed, I get up and go to the living room where I only have an amber reading light and amber glasses. I get bored easily from reading, journaling and listening to soft music for 4-6 hours every night, and the boredom frustrates me and makes me anxious. Yes, that's how long I can't sleep between 11 and 7 (getting only 2-4 hours of sleep). Do you have any suggestions for other things I can do in dim light?
I think I went almost 3 weeks without consistent sleep and now I feel like my body won’t fall asleep naturally. I am currently in temazepam for sleep and it gives me a couple of hours of sleep but I want to learn how to fall asleep naturally again. HELP!
What happens to people who can't sleep for 4 or 5 days? Do they eventually just hit a brick wall and become unconscious? And if so, for how long? In other words, does your body/brain take over and give you the sleep you require?
Thanks Martin! Even though I know this is obvious, it helps to be reassured that sleep always wins. It's just unfortunate that during times of high anxiety that it takes so much build up to get there. Your mind and body craving something so natural but can't. Keeping an appropriate sleep window definitely helps keep things consistent and speed up the time to re-stabilize..
It's important to keep your eye on the long-term prize, too! What happens from night to night is far less important than the ultimate goal we're trying to reach - better sleep over the long term and the restoration of sleep confidence!
Anthony D- Good comment. What Sleep coach said and you reverberating it is very helpful. I’m in a cycle of insomnia again after two nights of great catch up sleep, and it’s so miserable and I’m sick of it all, but you guys are right. Sleep restriction is the only way.🙏☮️
So relate! The anxiety of not sleeping sucks! It sometimes overpower the sleep drive😔
So even tho i feel sleepy, the arousal kept me awake
Not true. What if your body forces you to sleep during the day? Because it is so tired. Maybe after days drive wins but it torments you until it does and then it starts all over again.
When will it lead to sleep? I haven’t been sleeping at all. I always worry about my sleep since morning
iv been on dopaquel and can’t sleep without it help my prescription is about to end
Thats comforting
U made me happy
This is just great,but i find it so difficult to do sleep restriction since i dont sleep at all and next day i am unable to function,but i keep listening thanks a million
It sure can feel as though we are unable to function after a night of no sleep - but how true is that? Can we still go to the bathroom? Can we still eat? Maybe we still have some degree of function, as demonstrated by our choice of actions?
For me it helped to stick to the same wake up time every time, but not too strict with going to sleep time. I just wait until i get really sleepy at night and then go to sleep. When I go to sleep i tell myself that there is no pressure of sleeping, i will just rest and if sleep comes happy days, if sleep doesnt come then that's fine as well. So basically i try to give myself permission not to sleep, and when i cant sleep i try to do something that i enjoy, usually watching tv and not worry about that I am not sleeping because i know that not sleeping is uncomfortable next day, but it cannot really hurt me. This helped me a lot, but i appreciate we are all different. So basically for me i had to shift the relationship with awake time, i try and enjoy the awake time as much as possible so that my body knows being awake is not dangerous therefore this helps me falling asleep when the time comes.
Something hilarious about an "insomnia coach" talking like he has all the answers, looking fresh-faced and well-rested. Do you even suffer from insomnia yourself?
Do cardiologists Need to have a heart attack to help people with cardiac problems? What a stupid comment
thank you man
You're welcome, Amir!
Hi Martin any help with sleep maintenance keep wake up several times a night this is being going on for a year now either I can’t fall asleep & when I do I wake up a lot then sleep again but I wake several times a night
Sorry to hear this, Hichame. I think you'll find cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia (CBT-I) techniques very helpful. If you implement a regular and appropriate sleep window you should find that you start to spend less time awake during the night. If you get out of bed and do something else when you're struggling to sleep, you will stop yourself from reinforcing the idea that the bed is a place for wakefulness. Over the long term, this will help make the bed a strong trigger for sleep. I hope this helps!
I have the sleep maintenance variety as well and I attribute it to a few different things I was doing wrong:
-Sleep hygiene, some of the obvious pitfalls...I was drinking alcohol and nicotine (smoking) and eating too late; too much afternoon caffeine. Room was not cold enough, bed not comfy enough. I now only drink 1 or 2 drinks no more than 3 hours prior to sleep, I am on the patch (which I take off 3 hours before sleep), my bed is now comfy (a NECTAR) and the room is always nice and cool. Sleep hygiene shouldn't be a substitute for CBT-I but some of these and together can reek havoc on onset sleep and staying asleep (especially alcohol).
-A poor and unpredictable sleep/wake cycle. I was going to bed at random times but more importantly not keeping a consistent wake time. Go to bed ONLY when sleep/drowsy (as opposed to fatigued/tired) and get up at the same time EVERY single day, vacation, weekend, etc.
-When I woke up too early or in the middle of the night, I wasn't getting out of bed. I'd toss and turn and try to Force sleep; Spoiler alert: You can't force sleep, you have to allow it. The times I did get up I went to the couch and sometimes fell asleep. Martin guided me away from the couch as that would be a substitute for bed and you don't want to train yourself to sleep on the couch so find activities when you can't sleep - get up first of all - and do something fun but not too high energy or mentally stimulating like: read, crossword puzzle, sodoku, watch TV like the news or something, etc.
-I rarely make it to my alarm but even when I did, sometimes I would continue to stay in bed. I have to admit i'm still bad at this even with seeing success in the employment of CBT-I but this is important to anchor your sleep window and as Martin says build sleep pressure/sleep drive so you're tired at night.
-You must control anxiety/high arousal. Best tips I've found to do this is to minimize phone and bright lights at night, read a book to distract you 30 minutes before bed and relax/wind down, and don't worry about sleep or clock watch. Even if you're at your bedtime, stay up a few minutes past it to ensure you're sufficiently sleepy/drowsy enough so when you hit the bed you're ready. DOn't think about anything, just fall into bed, relax and enjoy the weight of your body and sensations of resting. I now fall asleep in less than 5 minutes but many people say that's a sign of sleep deprivation. It can be conditioning as well.
-One trick I've learned is to supplement with magnesium. I pour a glass of water first thing in the morning and put a 1/2 tsp of CALM (magnesium citrate) and a 1/3 tsp of Cream of tartar (potassium) with some seasalt, mix it up, hit the microwave for 42 seconds, remix and down it. Before bed I take 4 Cal-Mag-Citrate pills (Calcium/Magnesium/Vitamin D) and I've found that has helped my anxiety big time and allows me to sleep longer as my problem wasn't sleep onset insomnia, it was STAYING ASLEEP and avoiding early morning wakening.
Most of my sleep problems - unbeknownst to me at the time - was anxiety and the constant worry, preoccupation, and researching sleep all the time. Now that i'm getting better sleep that has lessened and so has the anxiety. I felt for about 2 years I was having a constant panic attack - it was hell but now I am much better thanks to CBT-I. Hope this helps.
@@smith168 Thank you for sharing your experience. I am sure Hichame (and others) will find this very reassuring, comforting, and (hopefully) motivating!
I really needed this hope. Thank you
I was suffering from chronic insomia for 4 months and now also I have been suffering from anxiety and my memory has become so much worse what can I do recover back
If you have been diagnosed with chronic insomnia, the recommended first-line treatment is usually cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia (CBT-I). I hope this helps!
@@InsomniaCoach sorry sir nothing helps@ I had suffered from chronic sleep deprivation for 4 months and now my mind is hallucinating all the time
@@DurgeshYadav-ig1pw Have you tried CBT-I, Durgesh? It might be worth asking your doctor about, to see if they think you'd be a good candidate!
@@InsomniaCoach I have visited doctors. No any improvement is there
@@DurgeshYadav-ig1pw how are you now?
I wish this were true in my case. Your videos are very reassuring Martin, but unfortunately, NOTHING has worked for me!!
As with everyone else who put insomnia behind them, nothing worked until something worked!
@@InsomniaCoach My neurologists have now concluded that there is a dysfunction in my sleep drive. I cannot sleep! I'm suffering greatly and running out of options.
@@lucieblindner2513 Have you asked your doctors if they think you might be a good candidate for cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia (CBT-I)? Is that something you've tried?
@@InsomniaCoach I have tried cbt with zero results. I was so deflated😒
@@lucieblindner2513 What specific CBT-I techniques did you implement, for how long, and why do you feel they didn't help you?
What is the treatment of insomnia please reply
On day two of this. Comforting Going on a long run. Im bored during the day the obvious, stay well.
Being inactive/bored during the day can definitely lead to more sleep-related worrying and doing things (like napping) that reduce sleep drive and perpetuate sleep disruption - so it's great to hear that you went out for a run!
@@InsomniaCoach thank you ran an hour, have another planned for tomorrow, I've neighbours to kick me out of bed 😄. I also working with my gp on sleep hygiene, another suggested only 5 hours sleep which felt wrong to me as i was exhausted and felt ill couldn't really eat much. My gp was very patient and disagreed with the suggestion. He understands sleep anxiety aims to hopefully not needs sleep meds as much, he has a good attitude just like yourself, that's a game changer for people. Stay safe.
@@soniczforever5470 Thanks for sharing!
how strong sleep drive has to be? i am wide awake for two nights in a row. All i have are extreme fatigue, brain fog, anxiety, except sleepiness.
i m feeling like i have not slept for decades
Sleep drive needs to be strong enough for sleep to happen. That's all there is to it! And we probably need to generate more sleep drive to overcome all our attempts to make sleep happen, all our attempts to avoid wakefulness, and all our attempts to fight or avoid the difficult thoughts and feelings that often show up when we are dealing with insomnia.
الجسم يتولى مهمة النوم ليس في حالة وجود ارق قاتل فمعما فعلت لا تنم حتى المهدئات لا تنفع انت مع ارق حقيقي ومرضي وليس نفسي😢
Martin...why every night I go to bed I worry I cannot fall into sleep? And I cannot fall sleep for real?
The human brain will always generate worry - that's one way it looks out for you! It's still possible to fall asleep when we are worried - difficulties often happen when we try to fight or avoid that worry because then we're engaged in a battle with our minds. And, sleep isn't likely to happen if we're engaged in a battle.
i can't take this anymore man
My son is 20yrs old and he is suffering from insomnia and he takes all of these sleeping pills which causes him to either get admitted to hospital or he starts acting very loopy😢
Oh noo
Please never ever get tired of helping him even if it is repetitive over and over again. Comfort him even if it difficult❤
I have gone up to 3 weeks just to fall sleep for 30 minutes and be right awake for days and days to come.
When insomnia is cause by ptsd is a hold different munster.
Yes, that can definitely make things more difficult. What's your current approach?
I haven’t slept in 6months now tried everything to sleep but sleep won’t come and I have a 2month old baby girl
Perhaps it's all the understandable effort you're engaged in to make sleep happen that might be making things more difficult? Congratulations on the baby girl!
Hi, martin. I tried cbti about 3 months, but i still wake up like 2 times in the middle of night and wake up earlier always.
Thanks for sharing. CBT-I cannot stop you from waking during the night since sleep cannot be controlled (and waking during the night is a normal part of sleep).
Yeah but its never good sleep. Its usually short and you're groggy. Just useless.
Living with chronic insomnia can be really, really difficult. No doubt about it.
I should have found this video for long, my problem is i don't feel drowsy at all not to talk of sleeping seems like i have lost my ability to sleep and it been going on for 3yrs. Now i don't know if i have depression due to the lack of sleep. Pls are you saying even if one has developed clinical depression with the insomnia one can still sleep no matter what. Pls respond i cant fall asleep at all.
It's kinda same with me, it started after the covid. Maybe you're anxious whether your sleep will come or not and that's keeping you awake.
This is an old video. I Go without sleep 3-4-5 days without sleep ???
What happens after those 3-4-5 days of no sleep, Trent?
Thank You so much coach 🙏it sounds really inspiring and motivating hopefully you help me too for stopping waking up 3,4 times in a night...
You are welcome! Waking is a normal part of sleep - it's often our reaction to waking that determines how easy or how difficult it will be to fall back to sleep again!
@@InsomniaCoach at night to get sleep it's takes bit time like one hour or more after waking up 4 times in a mid of the night I'll go back sleep in 10 to 30 minutes...
@@yogafitnesswithvbw187 It can be helpful to ensure you're not allotting too much time for sleep each night since this will always lead to more time awake during the night.
@@InsomniaCoach I'll try to wake up early like you said ✌️
@@yogafitnesswithvbw187 Will you try or will you do?!
I can only sleep every other day. I only function every other day. I've tried everything, but suffering from low productivity and worries.
You might find this video helpful: "How to stop the sleep roller coaster and make sleep more consistent and more predictable" - th-cam.com/video/86qD_SFPd24/w-d-xo.html
What if you don't fall asleep within a half hour of getting into bed? Do I get up and do something else? I have been trying this and have been a yoyo getting up and down all night long.
If you're calm and relaxed, there's no need to jump out of bed because conditions are right for sleep. If you are feeling worried, anxious, or frustrated, then it's a good idea to get out of bed and do something you find relaxing and enjoyable.
This can turn you into a human yo-yo over the short-term, but that won't last forever because sleep drive always wins in the end!
@@InsomniaCoach ok. I don't feel stressed in bed; however, I can lay in bed for a really long time and not fall asleep...I'm talking hours. Is it still ok to stay in bed then? Last night I went to bed at 12 and woke up at 4. I laid in bed for awhile trying to go back to sleep, but it didn't come within a half hour so I got up and watched TV for a half hour. Laid in bed dozing after that until 5:30 when I got up (normal wake up time is 6:00). This is only day 2 of sleep restriction so I'm hoping tonight goes better.
Your videos have helped me far more than the CBTi psychologist I have seen. Thank you so much. Your videos on thoughts we have about sleep and the reality of the situation are different than a lot of the ones I have been exposed to, and actually significantly reduce my insomnia related stress.
I have another question for you:
Last night was day 3 or SR and it didn't go well. I was trying so hard not to nod off before my "bedtime" and when it finally came time for bed I couldn't get to sleep. What's more, I just stay in the very lightest stages of sleep when I do fall asleep, my only indication I was sleeping was how much time had passed between performing stimulus control. I've only had insomnia for a little over 3 weeks but it has gotten so bad so fast. It is now affecting my husband's sleep and I don't know what to do. Should I sleep in the spare bedroom? I'm 7 months pregnant and am working full time with a 4 yo. I just want this nightmare to end.
@@Thesnydersquad We can't evaluate sleep restriction after just three days - I wouldn't suggest paying any attention to how each night goes for at least two weeks or so.
Feeling sleepy before bed and then awake when the sleep window begins is a classic symptom of conditioned arousal. More on that in this video: th-cam.com/video/_o-y80hs16c/w-d-xo.html
If you are sleeping, it's unlikely that you are only getting light sleep - because the body always prioritizes deep sleep. In other words, if you are in desperate need of deep sleep, the body will get it.
If your goal is to sleep in your own bed, it might not be a good idea to attempt sleeping in a different bed.
@@Thesnydersquad If you're allotting an appropriate amount of time for sleep, you're not going to be spending too much time awake at night over the long term because there won't be enough time in your sleep window for prolonged wakefulness, and sleep drive will be building with every minute of wakefulness and this makes sleep increasingly likely over subsequent nights.
With that being said, try to see each night as a fresh start with no expectations - if we try to predict what might happen each night, we activate the arousal system and this can make sleep more difficult.
Thanks for the kind words about the channel - glad you're finding it helpful.
What is the average time this system takes for it to start working? I have been at this work weeks. Average sleep total 2 hours.
That might depend on what you mean by "system" and what you mean by "working", Michelle!
Excellent and encouraging talk sir
Please encourage people good luck 🙏🙏🙏
I appreciate your kind words! Thank you!
Benzo withdrawal cant sleep
Sorry to hear that. I hope things get better for you.
This was perfect!!!!
Honestly, it's the part where "the body will take over and make us sleep" is one of the biggest fears keeping me up at night. I'm scared to death I'll crash my car. It did happen once on a day I didn't get much sleep.
Usually, people with chronic insomnia (and no other health issues) are "tired but wired" throughout the day - and so they're probably less likely to fall asleep without warning even compared to people without insomnia! If you have fallen asleep without warning, there might be another issue present (such as sleep apnea) - and that would be worth discussing with your doctor.
Hi Martin,
I’m worried that sleep restriction won’t be too helpful for me. I’ve been struggling with insomnia for 3 months. It’s become progressively worse. I sleep anywhere from 0-3 hours each night. Last time I got more than 3 hours was over 3 weeks ago.
I know I do not have sleep apnea. I was sleeping fine 3 months ago. How does sleep restriction work if I can’t sleep longer than 3 hours?
Thanks
Sleep restriction can help even if you are only sleeping three hours or less because it helps build sleep drive, reduces the amount of time spent awake during the night, and the consistent out of bed time strengthens the body clock.
You might find this video helpful: How sleep restriction can improve sleep even when you're only getting a few hours of sleep - th-cam.com/video/k78UM6lHG_A/w-d-xo.html
I hope this helps!
Insomnia Coach thank you!! I will try my best. I appreciate your videos.
Do you have any videos mentioning “paradoxical insomnia?”
@@mausmipatel1196 You're welcome! Here's a video about paradoxical insomnia - How to address paradoxical insomnia (sleep state misperception): th-cam.com/video/q6iRfT38pMY/w-d-xo.html
@@mausmipatel1196 Hai do you still have chronic insomnia? may you share your techniques if you don’t have it anymore
@@halisyamohd1122 hi there. No,
Thankfully I do not. I started lexapro last year which has changed my life. It took about 5 months until I felt better and the insomnia stopped. I hope you find relief!! There is hope
It's absolute torture not being able to sleep
It's tough - no doubt about it. Fortunately, sleep always happens once we've been awake for long enough - no matter how bad our insomnia.
Thanks Martin. Hot flashes are waking me up. I go to sleep around 1030, and the wake up with hot flash. Then I sleep for a few hours. My son wakes me 530 when goes out to catch the train. I resisted the urge to nap.
Thanks for sharing - do you often find it hard to fall back to sleep when you wake with a hot flash? Without the hot flashes, do you generally sleep pretty well?
I do find it hard. I got sick recently and it is worse. I do jot think it is just the hotflash. I think it is the anxiety. So since i got sick, i wake with gas. I think everyone has gas, but anxiety turns it all up. The best advice i ever got is just let the body do what it wants. If it wants hotflashes, then just allow it without fighting. @@InsomniaCoach
Dont know whats wrong with me then i havnt hardly slept at all in months and had no nights of recovery sleep yet dont feel sleepy ever. Just cant get into that unconsciousness of nrem 1. This can go on all night every night until the sun comes up in the morning
Over the past few months you have definitely slept - you wouldn't be here if you hadn't! Nothing is wrong with you, Colin - you just aren't getting the amount (or type) of sleep that you want. Often it's our desire to get a certain amount or type of sleep that makes it difficult to reach that goal.
@@InsomniaCoach thanks Martin. Yeah i told the doctor same thing and he was completely shocked and told me i would be severely ill if that was the case. I suppose when you are anxious you can get way ahead and make a mountain out a molehill
@@colinpatrick2729 Concern and worry about sleep is completely understandable! The good news is, there are things you can do to help create better conditions for sleep to occur!
That's great.
So you downplay the suffering we experience for days, weeks, months, getting 2 to 3 hours a night, by reassuring us that our bodies WILL make us sleep eventually.
Don't ignore the misery in the duration, please.
It was definitely not my intention to downplay insomnia and I apologize if that came across in this video.
He is just addressing to the irrational thought that we will never sleep again, not saying that we will stop having insomnia and all it involves.
Can i ask I can never nap. But when going through days with no sleep or less sleep 3 per night and that on pills too. So when feeling exhausted in the afternoon can I just rest by closing eyes on sofa and laying down. I can't sleep but feel like I need to rest the body during cbti which I've started. Thank you
The good news is that if you can never nap, then you aren't sleepy enough to nap. It's also helpful to avoid daytime naps if you are finding sleep hard at night since daytime naps reduce sleep drive and this can make nighttime sleep more difficult.
Exhaustion is not the same as sleepiness, although it's very easily confused with sleepiness! Exhaustion is fatigue and one of the best ways to reduce the intensity of fatigue is to be active - being sedentary and resting usually only makes fatigue feel more intense.
Here are a couple of videos about fatigue that you might find helpful:
How to know if you are fatigued rather than sleepy (and why it matters): th-cam.com/video/zj2ET8LtP7A/w-d-xo.html
Daytime fatigue is caused by more than just a bad night of sleep: th-cam.com/video/KAecAVm3a-o/w-d-xo.html
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A short walk or even some simple stretching can help lower fatigue. Engaging in activities you find enjoyable, rewarding, and enriching can also distract your mind from thinking and worrying about sleep while improving the overall quality of your day. When you are able to improve the quality of your day independently of how you sleep, you might start to think and worry about sleep a little less - and less worry usually leads to better sleep and less fatigue!
I hope this helps.
Hello Bijal..how are you now?
Depends of the root cause of the insomnia. I have a problem yet to be diagnosed, but if i do certain things (mainly if eat in excess), i literally can't sleep at all for as long as i keep doing it. I've even tried to literally take a handful of melatonin pills and i didn't feel even slightly different after that, when i was having the worst symptoms.
Regardless of the cause of insomnia, when someone has been awake for long enough, they will ALWAYS sleep.
@@InsomniaCoach Quite the bold claim. I suggest researching fatal insomnia / fatal familial insomnia. Rare disease, yes, but your claim that regardless of the cause, people will always fall asleep doesn't hold true in this case. And like i've said, it doesn't seem to work with me either (even though i can't claim to have FFI), so i do not understand what you're trying to achieve by dismissing my experience. The only way i can sleep is by fasting or calorie restricting on a regular basis, and my quick discovery of that might be the reason why i'm still alive.
@@metheiam5714 I'm definitely not trying to dismiss your experience and I apologize if my comment came across that way. However, the fact of the matter is you can sleep and you do sleep but you might not be getting the amount or type of sleep you want.
It's difficult to research FFI since it is an extremely rare genetic degenerative brain disorder (the genetic mutation that causes FFI is thought to exist in just 50 families in the entire world). It is not chronic insomnia or related to chronic insomnia in any way other than the confusing use of the word "insomnia" in the name.
If you're able to sleep well by modifying your diet, that's great to hear and I am happy that you are now sleeping well and living the kind of life you want to be living!
Thank you for the engagement!
This has been so helpful, thank you. I am currently suffering from postpartum insomnia. Having a baby has turned my ability to sleep upside down. Do you have any advice for new parents who are experiencing constant sleep disruption? We are told to ‘nap when the baby naps’ which has made me incredibly anxious as I am very bad at napping. Some nights I only sleep 3-4 hours (interrupted) and I am so stressed about living out the day and dealing with the demands of my baby. I am now having nights where I lay awake in tears as I feel so exhausted and am just wired with too many thoughts whirling around my mind. My baby is getting better at sleeping and I am getting worse. It’s so frustrating!
What you're experiencing is not unusual and is something that many new parents struggle with! You might find these two podcast episodes helpful since they both feature the story of mothers:
1. How Cindy tackled the insomnia that appeared after her baby was born by accepting nighttime wakefulness and eliminating safety behaviors (#31) - insomniacoach.com/cindy-insomnia-acceptance-ep31/
2. How Jennifer moved past 18 years of insomnia by exploring her sleep-related beliefs and recognizing her own insomnia in the stories of others (#33) - insomniacoach.com/jennifer-insomnia-beliefs-reassurance-ep33/
May i know how u dealed with insomnia during pregnancy..coz i want to take the chance but i m little worried
@@poojadhanure2399 Hello, congratulations on your pregnancy. My postpartum insomnia was tough but was mainly related to the fact that I had a very unsettled newborn who would stay up for hours crying. You may not have this! And, if you do, like me, it will pass. I took on board a lot of Martin's advice and stopped 'putting effort' into sleep. I became very anxious about sleep and have become better at not worrying so much about it. I hope you do not have to deal with any insomnia but, if you do, know that you can get through it. My 'baby' is now a 16 month old toddler and things are vastly different to how they were. I wish you the best of luck!
Will sleep drive still work with long term use of sleeping tablets and weening off?
It sure will - sleep drive builds with every minute of wakefulness. Once we have been awake for long enough, we will always sleep.
@@InsomniaCoach I don't think that is true. I found that if I dont sleep nothing for 3 or more days I still cannot sleep. I still just laid there without feeling sleepy or drift off. I'm just tired, have no energy but still cannot fall sleep.
@@teresahoang6593 I’m there now been awake 7 days
Sleep restriction works for me for about 4 weeks then insomnia creeps in again
What happens after those 4 weeks, Warren? Do you change your sleep schedule or routine? Why do you feel that insomnia keeps coming back?
I'll restrict my sleep purposely not going bed till 1030/11 wake at 4 then work back half an hour each week depending on if sleep efficiency was 80+%. It takes me around 3 weeks to get into sleeping 8 ish hours unbroken with this method and I'll maintain it for 3-4 weeks then it goes broken again. No rhyme or reason. Last bout of getting severe Insomia I was still relatively smashing gym and so wasn't all woe is me about not sleeping untill I came off holiday and then crashed in what felt like a massive bout of depression and slept nearly 9 hours a day completely devoid of any motivation that I had prior. Back feeling v active again, gym MMA gradually built up to 6 hours training a week of moderate to quite intense work but sleep has gone very poor again. 🤷🏾♂️.
I am a personal trainer so I am quite knowledgeable about modulating Intensity/auto regulation week to week to not overtrain so I cant pin it on that.
@@warrenwright7165 When it feels as though sleep restriction strops "working", how do you respond? Sleep restriction can't make sleep happen or eliminate insomnia - it's something that can simply help us move away from chasing after it. With sleep, the more we try to make it happen, the more difficult it usually becomes! It sounds as though you've picked up some helpful insights on your journey - one of which being that doing less of what matters when things are difficult doesn't usually make things any better!
@@InsomniaCoach bit of a mixed response really. There's obvious frustration of "here we go again" but I try to revert to previous experience that I've managed to get through before I can again. I try to put "bad" training days into perspective. I've had some days I've felt fresh as and not got out what I expected and had some days I've felt really off and done more.
What you've put out on this channel is kind of where I've found myself naturally leaning towards and is helping solidify my mindset. I've actually got 24 h access to the gym I've started MMA at and so have started thinking well rather than wanting to get up at 5, make the most of 3.30 get up accept this as my new time, I can get in a weight training session at 4 walk the dog after that all before work. Seen as I am absolutely head hit pillow straight to sleep shattered by 8.30 I think that could work. Only issue being that on evenings I do MMA the class is 7-8 and it takes me around 90 min wind down on those days. That's got me thinking maybe a 4.30 get up instead and try and fight to stay awake till 9.30 on days I don't do MMA.
Thanks for sharing, Warren! I think a key insight you shared here might be that you are more aware of your own experience rather than listening solely to your thoughts. Sometimes our minds can generate all kind of thoughts and stories that paint a certain picture - even if our experience tells us something different. It also sounds as though you are responding in a workable way to all this stuff by continuing to do things that matter, even when it shows up.
No sleep drive night or day. This is a lie
No lies here. Sleep drive always exists and always creates sleep. There's not a human being on the planet who does not sleep. It always happens in the end, guaranteed.
@@InsomniaCoach sleep drive is weak. It takes 2 days of no sleep for me to sleep 2-3 hours. Sleep drive is not building up and sleep restriction is utterly useless when sleep drive is this weak to begin with.
@@javixavalier4456 Sleep drive builds with every minute of wakefulness. High levels of arousal can temporarily suppress sleep drive, but sleep always happens in the end. You might find it helpful to explore ways of moving away from struggling with wakefulness and any difficult thoughts and feelings that might come with it, since that can make sleep more difficult by heightening arousal. You might find this video useful, too: th-cam.com/video/86qD_SFPd24/w-d-xo.html
I hope this helps!
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Thanks, Anders!
So comforting .
Glad to hear that, Sherri! Thank you for letting me know.
I never get catch up sleep or good regular sleep...
In that case, you are likely getting at least the minimum amount of sleep your body needs each day! If the body needs more sleep, it will generate more sleep - the more we try to get involved in the process, the more difficult it is for anything more than the bare minimum amount of sleep to occur.
Insomnia Coach but isn’t sleep hygiene and treating anxiety important? I mean if we don’t try to get involved we acquire diseases from not sleeping. I have breast cancer and I can tell you right now that I’m sure it’s from chronic insomnia and dsps. My body isn’t able to repair me correctly or rid itself of toxins when only the bare minimum is required. If I didn’t want to address sleep issues or try to get involved I wouldn’t be watching your videos...
@@eastmeetswest3330 The good news is that there is no evidence that chronic insomnia causes any health problem whatsoever! Similarly, there is no evidence that chronic insomnia makes it impossible for the body to rid itself of toxins or to repair itself. When we can worry less about sleep, we lower a common barrier to sleep - anxiety/arousal.
@@eastmeetswest3330 from personal experience, I can attest that sleep hygiene does very little to help insomnia. I truly feel that bedtime restriction helps *most* people recover or greatly improve their sleep. I always come back to it when my sleep lapses. I hope you recover 🙏🏼
What do you do if you have too much sleep drive? It takes everything I have just to make it to 8pm without falling asleep, instead of 11, which is supposed to be my sleep time. The problem is, I fall asleep for a few hours, and then Im up the rest of the night. I start getting sleepy at noon, so I am completely overcome by sleepiness by the afternoon.
In your case, I'd suggest seeking advice from a licensed sleep specialist (such as a sleep physician) since there could be a number of explanations for what you're experiencing, and exploring this further would be outside my scope of practice.
I'm wondering how many days of sleep drive I have to build up before I can sleep. My anxiety and noisy neighbours are keeping me from sleeping. Was so fatigued all day.
Sorry to hear about those noisy neighbours! We are all different - but sleep always happens once we have been awake for long enough, Monika!
@@InsomniaCoach Thank you for the advice. I find it difficult to fall asleep after a bad night's sleep because I worry the following night I might not sleep again and that keeps me awake even though I'm tired. I sleep with a white noise machine but I have multiple neighbours making noise on every side. 😞
@@monikavarro2020 It's perfectly normal to worry! However, even if we are worried, we'll still end up falling asleep once we've been awake for long enough! In fact, because sleep drive builds with every minute of wakefulness, difficult nights make a better night MORE likely - not less likely!
@@InsomniaCoach I understand building up your sleep drive makes sleep more likely to happen. I also have issues with waking frequently throughout the night. Sometimes even every hour. I have sometimes started my day in the very early hours because I knew I wasn't going to ever get back to sleep. Anyway, thank you for the advice. I watch your videos when I can't sleep.
@@monikavarro2020 You're welcome, Monika! Waking during the night is a normal part of sleep and often only becomes an issue when we put pressure on ourselves to fall back to sleep or put effort into falling back to sleep.
Hi Martin, thanks for your very helpful and reassuring sleep content. I realize that sleep is inevitable, but there's still one thing that's been eating at me and it might sound a bit silly. If I were to have a string of sleepless nights in a row (this hasn't happened to me yet and I hope it never does), and for some reason couldn't fall asleep during my sleep window, I worry that I would start dangerously having sleep attacks or microsleeps when I'm out and about doing my daily activities - for example, walking down a flight of stairs. How realistic would this be, and what exactly would happen? Would my brain know when I'm seated or lying down before it passed out? Wherever it happens, I would hope that I fall into a deep sleep for hours so that I wake feeling more refreshed. I'm just trying to make peace with the worst-case scenario. Some reassurance on this would be greatly appreciated.
It's very rare for people with chronic insomnia to fall asleep without warning and I don't think I've ever heard of someone with insomnia falling asleep while walking down a flight of stairs.
Just as the mind protects us by suspending sleep when we feel worried/stressed/anxious, it also protects us by ensuring we won't fall asleep if we are walking down a flight of stairs!
I think you'll find this podcast episode really helpful - Busting sleep and insomnia myths with behavioral sleep medicine specialist Dr. Jade Wu: th-cam.com/video/MiaxcoRZdeA/w-d-xo.html
@@InsomniaCoachWhat if you can start to fall asleep in a chair, but not in bed?
@@TheMgarvey If that happens, then it suggests two things. First, you can sleep! Secondly, your brain might have learned the bed is a place of ongoing struggle and discomfort so it becomes more alert to help "protect" you! Fortunately, we can retrain the brain by moving away from struggle and discomfort when in bed - and one way to do that might involve not actively trying to make sleep happen when in bed, not trying to get rid of wakefulness when in bed, and not fighting with our thoughts and feelings when in bed (because all those things can easily create struggle).
I have anxiety and fear and I haven't been getting more than 1 hour sleep for a week now. I have twitches and all. What can I do plz help
Sorry to hear about your recent sleep disruption, Karina. Any idea what caused it?
How is your sleeping now ?
@@user-mp9lq3xv5b yeah as my anxiety got better , I sleep better too
@@karinanikoghos7285 good 💖💖👍🏻👍🏻,how long did it last ?
@@user-mp9lq3xv5b It was a complicated process with different stages, I can't really explain all of it, but being completely sleepless was maybe 1 -2 months, anxiety and other things 2+ years and I am still healing
Soo what about sleep deprivation? I dont see any sleep drive should i be worried?
High levels of arousal can mask sleepiness (it's a survival mechanism - your body doesn't want you falling asleep if it thinks you are in danger). You might find this video helpful: How to improve sleep when you don't feel sleepy and don't know how to get sleepy - th-cam.com/video/TaFD4ivgLKw/w-d-xo.html
Hi Bro I just take an ativan relaxes my mind and body 2. 5 mg
Thanks for sharing.
Hi Thank you for your amazing videos. So 2 months ago all of a sudden it took longer to fall asleep and when awake I couldn't get back to sleep. Was hardly getting 2 hours and often nothing for several days. So gp put me on sleeping tablets even they give me only 3 hours. I cant nap either but sometimws when so tired i rest my body and eyes on sofa wide awake . Now they have suggested cbti. I tried it first night ( with no sleep pill) and got nothing. Second night with pill I got 4 hours. Should I carry on with pills or wean off . Gp said it was up to me. Also does this therpy work for people like me who rarely feel sleepy and aren't getting any sleep during nap to consolidate. You mention that sleep drive will come for me . But after 2 months it hasn't. Could there be some thing medically wrong with me? I have even gone days with no sleep on pills as they stop working.
The sleeping pill question is completely up to you - ultimately, sleeping pills can't generate sleep. They can lower the initial obstacle or barrier to sleep (often sleep-related worry) but the only thing that can generate sleep is our own biological sleep drive. So, all the sleep you've been getting (even when taking a pill) is sleep that has been generated by your own body. With this in mind, it's very unlikely there's anything medically wrong with you - it sounds like you have insomnia. No more, no less.
@@InsomniaCoach thank you so much for replying. So reassuraning. After a while you think there is something wrong with you. I will continue with the cbti and report on outcome.
@@bijalmemories You're welcome!
@@bijalmemories How are you doing now?
Hi Coach I wonder how big is the chance that chronic insomnia can relate to brain tumours and cyst? I have been struggling to sleep for a month now I only get 2 hours of sleep and some days none, just closing my eyes and waiting out the morning. When I do sleep it feels like I am aware of my surrounding especially my wife breathing while sleeping, and my dreams are so light I recall them everytime when I manage to fall asleep! Is it common
There is no evidence that chronic insomnia increases the risk of brain tumors or cysts, or that chronic insomnia causes any health problem whatsoever. I hope this helps!
@@BloodSweatAndMeth It absolutely is not! If you have found a peer-reviewed study that shows chronic insomnia causes brain tumors or cysts (or any other health condition for that matter), please share and I will be happy to stand corrected!
@@BloodSweatAndMeth That study does not demonstrate that chronic insomnia disorder causes any health problem. Association is not causation, and sleep deprivation is not the same as chronic insomnia. The fact of the matter is, you will not find a study that finds chronic insomnia disorder causes any health condition because there is no evidence that chronic insomnia disorder causes any health condition.
I appreciate your engagement and it sounds as though you are confident and satisfied with your belief that your sleep issues are a danger to your health. I wish you all the best for the future and hope things improve for you in the future.
@@BloodSweatAndMeth That is why doctors prescribe you medication to make you tweaked out. Seriously olazpine, Xanax, Sertrailine, and many others can cause far worse damage than lack of sleep itself. Doctors all want to be logical and fucking ignorant yes i know what im talking about. Insomnia and sleep deprivation sucks really bad but it 100 possible to recover.
There are far safer alternatives
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If sleep drive always wins, why are there studies with mammals that are forced to stay awake (which shouldn’t be the case if sleep drive wins) that end up developing diabetes, dying, etc.?
How is it that they’re able to be kept awake if sleep drive will take over no matter what?
Genuinely curious, not a challenge at you!
In the example you shared, sleep drive wasn't given the opportunity to win because someone was intervening to prevent sleep from happening. Most of us don't actively try to prevent sleep from happening (I guess the cast of the Nightmare on Elm Street movies would be the exception - although I was promised that movie was fictional, even they still ended up falling asleep!).
I think the closest evidence we have that sleep drive will always win in the end was provided by Randy Gardner's sleep deprivation experiment of 1964. He was able to stay awake for 264 hours (11 days) but that immense period of wakefulness required immense and intense effort. Even with all that effort to remain awake for as long as possible, sleep still happened in the end - and there was no death or (to my knowledge) diabetes!
So, I think we can safely say that sleep drive will always create sleep in the end. Once we have been awake for long enough, we will always sleep!