I’m west coast, born and raised. And I loved that Kendrick called it out on Euphoria and went on to make a “west coast” album with lesser known, local artists. I love seeing TDE succeed and those artists representing LA especially from those areas outside the Hollywood/Downtown areas where I’m from as well. And I especially appreciated that it was our west coast intellectual who exposed the phony Canadian. Just to be clear, I don’t see all Canadians as phony or people from Toronto. But definitely that one.
Also I believe those type of judgments happen everywhere. I remember when I was working out there, folks assumed I was from New York. I was like I am from North Carolina.
I personally don't have an issue with the West Coast. Especially in regards to the music. My thing is the weather, it's too damn hot and dry. Unfortunately, I'm an animator so I'll have to move to California. I'm sure it'll be a nice time, but I really hope things work out where I won't have to stay there forever. It's not hate, it's just preference, I'm from Chicago so I'm used to the cold and always hate the summers, so yeah it's just a preference thing
He's not lying. I used to work in a mostly British office in LA and all they did was complain about life in LA, while making 6 figures and never going south of wilshire
It’s the same in Texas. Got so much hate from people from New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina but then speak on the opportunities they have compared to back home. Still to this day!!
Truthfully, the west coast should be applauded for its history of respecting the foundation of hip hop and taking the business of it to the highest levels (Ice T, Too Short, Ice Cube, Death Row, Aftermath, E-40, TDE, etc.)! The business is cut throat and exploitative. They don’t like when smart street dudes with morals operate strongly in those spaces. Even Master P grew his business approach in the west.
well thats somewhat true but when the west coast came it brought more violence and vulgarity in the game that everybody copied and yall gotta own that the same way ny gotta own they used to hate on yall and others and gatekeep
@@camwhite4015 Respect that. I’m not from the west coast btw. Yeah, gangster rap propagated some very negative images, and outside communities profited. But some of it was just us telling our truth though.I’d take a Jay-Z and a Tupac over an early Snoop, etc. there was value in those examples.
I'm only a casual hip hop fan, (my music "comfort zone" is definitely alt rock and alt metal), but when I heard that Kendrick and Drake were officially beefing, I said, "Well obviously Kendrick is going to win." It wasn't even a question to me. Maybe I was being overly simplistic in my reasoning, but to me it was very simple: Kendrick is a genius, and Drake isn't.
Some of the best things in life are simple. You were spot on & I thought the exact same. Not sure why people are surprised it played out just as was always going to
Correlating the raps to weather...genius. I've never considered how the weather affects vibes, for this specific conversation over labels. More food for thought. Its just a piece of the puzzle but it makes a lot sense. Great conversation!
Thank you.. Please please bring him back for a follow up interview I don't care what the topic is the brother is speaking the truth on so many levels.. Better yet ask him if he is willing to come and sit with you every couple months..
The crazy thing about the "east coast sound" that they'd say Alchemist has is that it isn't even from the east coast. A lot of that style comes from Preemo who's a Texas native.
Let’s be fair, Alc is an executing descendant of Muggs and RZA more than Preemo. But even Premier took stuff from Marley Marl. Like Pharrell admitted to taking some Rick Rubin swag. And Ice Cube moved to NYC after NWA to link with Da Bomb Squad/Public Enemy. All different regions have fed each other since it first left NY.
I’m from NY. I enjoy good music. I got introduced to KL from a musical podcast (Dissect) and I’ve been an enjoyer of his music since. And upon enjoying his music, I have been introduced to other great musicians under his label. Keep up the artistry!!
Jason is correct. I have seen and heard many comments on TH-cam stating they don’t like the west coast or the west coast sound. And they stated it disparagingly. To the point that I finally posted a comment under a video seeking to get an understanding about what specifically they don’t like about the west coast sound. I am from NC so I am not biased toward the west coast. I personally love music across genres and never gave 1 thought about the region from which the music came.
I must be crazy cuz im born raised midwest and im obsessed w everything WC for 40 years now. Specifically SoCal. Got fam out there and I never want to leave when I visit. I think what makes the west different than any other spot in the states is yall gave us SO much media culture (music, TV, tech, movies etc) that has influenced modern society that it doesnt even seem like a real place. If youre not from there you have a deep preconceived notion of what youre getting into...i think it can be easy to be dissapointed if you dont know how to look past the IMAGE of the west to the REAL culture of the west and appreciate it at a very real level. Just my opinion.
@@sgvmvp Born in 2001 and raised in Inglewood, I grew up bumpin’ Joey Bada$$, Benny The Butcher, Big L-the list goes on. The East Coast needs to reclaim what made them trendsetters in the first place. They were creating real art, but now it feels like it’s all about who can sound the hardest on a drill beat. New York and California will always be the cornerstone of hip-hop history. The connection and tension between the coasts-whether good or bad-have exposed each side to the sounds and styles that make both regions iconic.
I haven’t been to the West Coast besides one time for like two or three days for a wedding. I really want to go over there and experience it fully. Love the west.
Yo, I had a roommate from the Bay, had to move to ATL for school. All he did was nitpick at the things about ATL and the South in general that were not like back "home". I say "home" because his parents eventually ended up moving to ATL. Why do people move somewhere far from home and hate on all the things that aint like home. Then, move back home. GEEZ
I feel what Jason is saying because I have been a West Coast music lover for ever but did not realize I was loving ‘West Coast’ until I moved to Florida and people started pointing out how much I listen to that West Coast stuff. I just thought I love music and good music is good music-Just so happens most of the music I vibe to comes from the West Coast…not all but most.
Firstly, I need him to specifically identify that’s he’s talking about New Yorkers not ppl from the East Coast! And New Yorkers specifically do that EVERYWHERE they go-West, South, and Midwest-even other states on the East. It’s a part of their delusion. Also, there are regional sounds so an artist being from a place doesn’t necessarily mean their sound is representative of that place. If that’s the case then Drake has been making "Toronto music."
The two most dissed cities in the country are LA and NY. Of course people from both cities are going to have a chip on their shoulder. Honestly I met more haters from Georgia, Chicago, Massachusetts, and Maryland 😂
It’s facts. New York is great in the many ways that it is. Yet I personally have never met a New Yorker who can give credit where credit where due to other places outside of their city.
It’s even worse in the Bay. These black people in the tech world move here and act just like the colonizers they claim to despise. The way they turn their noses up at black people who are actually from Oakland will blow your mind.
A lot of emotion, defensiveness, and conflating going on - but I get it. Having people come to your home and love everything BUT you is soul-crushing. Then when you speak up, basically hearing "The LA sunshine doesn't care who's here - it just shines" has to be infuriating.
The West Coast is killing it and been killing it. Also, battle was over after Kendrick dropped Euphoria (to me). Sincerely, a South Louisiana native, born & raised!!! 😊
Best vacation in the states I’ve ever had was to Cali, and the only reason I didn’t move there was because I wasn’t ready at the time for the high cost of living! There’s something about sitting at the beach on the Pacific that’s just 🤌🏾
At my big big age, I’ll say that growing up on the east coast, my favorite rappers were west coast rappers. Till this day, I favor the west coast! 💥🙌🏾💜
@@DJGary0910 I'm old enough to remember when they used to call it "booty shake" even tho Scarface, UGK, T.I. Wayne Ludacris etc were all staples in southern rap rotations
I was raised in Cali. I'd never seen a dilapidated house until I went to college in TX. I had never seen a road that was in such bad shape it would tear up your car. They hate us because of our "proper" accent. They hate us because our poverty is not the same as their poverty.
As a middle aged Hip-Hop lover it hurts to hear that people hate on an entire region. I'm a native Philadelphian who grew up on Ice Cube, Spice-1, Ice-T, Snoop, & Hiero while also loving Tribe, The Roots, & Nas etc. California has the most authentic sound right now. For example, Hit Boy, Jay Worthington, LaRussell, ALC, Dame Funk, and Larry June have the funk essence of a Zapp and Roger or Loose Ends who I grew up hearing in the 80s. That style will always be dear to me. Not to mention Cali is a beautiful state to visit on some tourist ish.
I am from Northern California and grew up on authentic New York hip hop. I do love the geto boys and dungeon family too. Soul food come on. I do not like drill and modern southern music. Music should have a regional sound. Shame on NY for abandoning their sound. Remember when Nelly jayz Luda outcast and E40 was in the charts. And they sounded like their city. Ghostface killah and E40 are my two favorite MCs. Respect the west. Listen to some freestyles fellowship and hiro. Del is a legend.
I'm from New York and I accepted in my heart the West Coast won the war.. New York forgot there was competition but Cali never forgot they beat us .Cali win Ca
The reason you have to make southern style music to break is because over 50 percent of black people in America live in the south .. same reason a underground southern rapper can make a ton of money without signing to a major since the beginning (chitterling circuit)
I GET what he's getting at, but he's ignoring the fact that the west cost isn't the only sound that gets regionalized. Up until Outkast, the south got called "country rap"... NY drill is called NY drill because it wasn't originated there, and Chicago (outside of Kanye) wasn't credited as being influential. Every region has a cycle to be loved, and to be hated, I think the VAST majority of that comes from NY, but they do that to EVERY other region There's nothing wrong with regional sounds. Regional sounds are extremely important for music
West Coast niggas like having a victim mentality. Who tf cares that other regions "hate their sound"? Do they like their own sound? That's all that should matter.
Drake never recovered from that Control verse 😂 If we keep it all the way 💯, Drake probably never recovered from seeing that Kendrick was better than him when he took him on tour that one time 🤷🏾♂️
“He was up at pushups” why because at that point he dropped last? What’s something that was devastating from that song? That beat and flow trash and he said “so many splits your pants might rip” that’s horrible rapping
Because Meg's sound generally speaking is more universal. If she were to make a whole album chopped and screwed, then it would be considered Texas music. Future's music gets referenced a trap music...which is synonymous with which city?
I can remember being in Vegas many times in a club & when the DJ starts shouting out different regions as soon as they get to California everybody start booing
The West Coast sound is so vast. I dont understand how people hate on em. Theres somebody for everyone. Blu,TDE, Project Blowed, Aceyalone, Hieroglifics, Souls of Michief, Tyler, Alchemist etc. it baffles me man
From someone who lives in upstate ny, I could never hate on a place where it is 75 around Christmas. I'm over here getting dressed for battle just to get some food lol Lets experience other places with love instead of hate.
It’s the weather they’re fond of. They’re also intrigued with the independent hustle (especially in the Bay Area) the west coast has created. In my opinion, west coasters are the most open minded people. East coast has a “we’re better” smug and some of the south have a regional biased mind set. The term East coast bias is a very solidified one. The fact is we are the trend setters in an affable way. The west can do all. From 808 bounce to trap to introspective to party music to word play bars with no hook or bridge.
Who is y’all? I’ve always loved the West, NWA is one of my earliest memories in life, and it felt so good (particularly the song Express Yourself, and that Eazy -E song that samples We Want Bootsy). I will never forget how The Chronic sounded and the impact it had. Tupac’s All Eyes on Me was EVERYTHING and EVERYWHERE when it came out. Ion know much about DJ Quick, E40 Warren G and the rest of the legends, but it always sounded SO FUCKIN GOOD. Last year I watched both Bad Boy and Death Row at the Source awards, and to me it was clear who were the superior creatives, THE WEST. And now my favorite rapper for the past 10 years, has been Kendrick, in fact he is the ONLY contemporary rapper I listen to (I don’t listen to rap like that, and I’m a project baby). Ion know what’s in the water, but the creativity and swag is unmatched in the West. I think who hates the West is jealous East Coast rappers, not fans
California has an outsized economic and cultural impact on American culture so people in certain industries HAVE to be here to make it. They don’t like it and aren’t shy about telling you they don’t like it
In my experience, its the politics of California people hate. Alot of business people have no choice but to live there. Two things can be true. I can hate the political situation while still living there. I also feel this happens in the tri state. Ask people how the feel about NYC and Jersey. Its rare to find someone not from there with anything nice to stay. They live there and hate it.
I think Jason is overstating the dislike of the Westcoast sound. Tastes change over time, then loop back around again. West is UP right now. So instead of whining they need to focus and run with the momentum.
Truth is they won't. LA in the last 10 years have only produced 3 rap superstars: Kendrick, Doja, and Tyler. Doja and Tyler don't make West Coast sounding music. As soon as Kendrick has to sit down to create the next album, so will the West Coast and their current wave.
Being from the south side of Chicago and traveling to and living in nyc then traveling to Cali. One thing that struck me the most when east coasters would speak ill of the west coast is the overt anti Mexican sentiment. People correlate west coast with Mexicans (its history and demographics after all) and that drives their hate towards the west coast. It’s def something to look at when trying to dissect the unfounded hate.
It goes all the way back to the beginning of hip hop where New York thoigjt the idea that anyone outside of New York trying to make hip hop was wack & deserved no respect because they felt since they originated it no one else had any right to try to create rap music. It started there & then butterflied into a million other reasons/aspects to it
That “people didn’t say he won until the ‘west coast song’” point was on it. 4 songs all west coast producers had tier hands on them…but he didn’t win until “the west coast song (nlu)”.
I used to live in Cali back in the 80s as a little kid. Riverside, to be exact. Anyway, i'm a hip-hop junkie, I don't care about region. If the music is good, it's good PERIOD!! S/O to the West, South, East, Midwest.
I respect every regions sound but for me the west coast sound is my least favorite. I respect yall but sonically it doesn't do it for me. But overall i like SoCal black culture.
It’s the sunshine. The rest of the country has weather. Us Californians are used the the gleeful experience of seeing the sun 90% of the year. It comes through in the music. Their ears are not tuned to it.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Jason! I’m from the Midwest and I’m older. When I fell in love with hip hop it was NWA, Dre, Cube, Snoop, MC Eiht, Quik etc and I’m a woman. I LOVE the sound and I always will do I agree with Jason! Say you love the sound or you love the music. They need to stop diminishing their contributions!
Agreed we should stop judging an entire coast because some big superstars lost their lives out here. I can see that Kendrick is attempting to make clear the difference between "Cali-resident" and "Cali-resident that is into gang stuff". NY is still seen as a source of historic and fantastic hip-hop and the fact that NY Drill is a thing will never take that way.
quick correction, NY just took the name drill from Chicago, as far as the sound it was imported by England, towards the late 2000s you had a lot of british producers / rappers coming to NY, if memory serves correct, dip-set were the first to sign a british group, SAS, than you had D-block europe etc.
He’s not lying!! I remember going to school in the south and the hate that I got just being from California was crazy. And it was crazy because it was love in it too. Like huh and they literally refuse to play any West Coast music anytime I go anywhere in the south. As much as I love Nipsey, don’t put him in the club. Like huh are you a DJ and you can’t know which Nipsey to play
Where in the South were you? I lived in LA for a minute and felt like South and Cali Black culture blended more than anywhere else: cars, funk and r&b blended hip hop, the landscape. I remember hearing underground 🎶 and loving those cassettes. When NWA came to Houston we showed much love
@ I went to Mother Tuskegee. Places, I’ve traveled that literally turned their nose up at LA music in a nightclub setting New Orleans, Texas (commerce, Dallas, Austin) Memphis, & ATL. Of course I’ve seen the love as well, but if I try to gauge it…. I have to say I receive more hate than love, especially when it comes to music.
I'm from Ny. We love the west coast since a child. Problem is conflating multiple issues into just hate. There is hate for Wc but not as deep as he's going. Hollywood is hated. Use your brain my guy
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I’m west coast, born and raised. And I loved that Kendrick called it out on Euphoria and went on to make a “west coast” album with lesser known, local artists. I love seeing TDE succeed and those artists representing LA especially from those areas outside the Hollywood/Downtown areas where I’m from as well.
And I especially appreciated that it was our west coast intellectual who exposed the phony Canadian. Just to be clear, I don’t see all Canadians as phony or people from Toronto. But definitely that one.
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The company man Curtiss king and the bigger picture had the best content this year and it only gonna get better
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Add Rob Markman to that list.
@@Doomer253 Big facts!! Curtiss King, Company Man and Rob Markman fasho held it down!!
He makes a good point. Who spends money and makes a plan to go to a place they hate? I enjoyed myself when I went to LA and Inglewood.
Also I believe those type of judgments happen everywhere. I remember when I was working out there, folks assumed I was from New York. I was like I am from North Carolina.
I personally don't have an issue with the West Coast. Especially in regards to the music. My thing is the weather, it's too damn hot and dry. Unfortunately, I'm an animator so I'll have to move to California. I'm sure it'll be a nice time, but I really hope things work out where I won't have to stay there forever. It's not hate, it's just preference, I'm from Chicago so I'm used to the cold and always hate the summers, so yeah it's just a preference thing
He's not lying. I used to work in a mostly British office in LA and all they did was complain about life in LA, while making 6 figures and never going south of wilshire
How do you end up in a mostly British office in la lol?
A British company based in the US.
He’s not lying about the west coast hate. I’ve heard it my whole life. People move here and complain while enjoying every reason they stay
Same thing here in the Bahamas
People talking big about leaving California. Go out of state and run back 5 years later
@ facts. I travel for work. Other states are ok to visit but none compare to CA.
Faxxxx
It’s the same in Texas. Got so much hate from people from New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina but then speak on the opportunities they have compared to back home. Still to this day!!
WEST COAST TILL I DIE!
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I’m from Brooklyn and love the West Coast movement right now. Y’all music resonate over on this side. Don’t let the few haters get it confused.
And I'm fine with it I push the line with it.
Halo from Anaheim California👊🏽😇
"Break a ngga off one at a time with it..." ✊🏿
@TheCompanyMan
We can be on a 3hrs time difference.....
Truthfully, the west coast should be applauded for its history of respecting the foundation of hip hop and taking the business of it to the highest levels (Ice T, Too Short, Ice Cube, Death Row, Aftermath, E-40, TDE, etc.)! The business is cut throat and exploitative. They don’t like when smart street dudes with morals operate strongly in those spaces. Even Master P grew his business approach in the west.
Absolutely
well thats somewhat true but when the west coast came it brought more violence and vulgarity in the game that everybody copied and yall gotta own that the same way ny gotta own they used to hate on yall and others and gatekeep
@@camwhite4015 Respect that. I’m not from the west coast btw. Yeah, gangster rap propagated some very negative images, and outside communities profited. But some of it was just us telling our truth though.I’d take a Jay-Z and a Tupac over an early Snoop, etc. there was value in those examples.
I love being a Cali girl ✌🏾 Great interview, Justin! Can’t wait to hear the rest.
Same
1:47 As a New Yorker, I felt that to my soul. People judge the city based on transplants 😅
I'm only a casual hip hop fan, (my music "comfort zone" is definitely alt rock and alt metal), but when I heard that Kendrick and Drake were officially beefing, I said, "Well obviously Kendrick is going to win." It wasn't even a question to me. Maybe I was being overly simplistic in my reasoning, but to me it was very simple: Kendrick is a genius, and Drake isn't.
Oh no, not overly simplistic at all. It really is that simple.
Some of the best things in life are simple. You were spot on & I thought the exact same. Not sure why people are surprised it played out just as was always going to
I loved Kendrick since 2015 and enjoyed being stationed on the West Coast.
Euphoria, for me, was the track that sealed the deal for me.
When Kendrick dropped Euphoria, the beef was over. He did not have to drop another song to defeat the certified PDF.
That’s facts!
"complain about the people who aren't even from here" NAILED. IT.
Correlating the raps to weather...genius. I've never considered how the weather affects vibes, for this specific conversation over labels. More food for thought. Its just a piece of the puzzle but it makes a lot sense. Great conversation!
Thank you.. Please please bring him back for a follow up interview I don't care what the topic is the brother is speaking the truth on so many levels.. Better yet ask him if he is willing to come and sit with you every couple months..
The crazy thing about the "east coast sound" that they'd say Alchemist has is that it isn't even from the east coast. A lot of that style comes from Preemo who's a Texas native.
Let’s be fair, Alc is an executing descendant of Muggs and RZA more than Preemo. But even Premier took stuff from Marley Marl. Like Pharrell admitted to taking some Rick Rubin swag. And Ice Cube moved to NYC after NWA to link with Da Bomb Squad/Public Enemy. All different regions have fed each other since it first left NY.
That style is absolutely from the east coast you named two producers who are influenced by NY artist.
I’m from NY. I enjoy good music. I got introduced to KL from a musical podcast (Dissect) and I’ve been an enjoyer of his music since. And upon enjoying his music, I have been introduced to other great musicians under his label. Keep up the artistry!!
Those who are saying "That's the Westcoast one" are casual listeners or uncultured
Same way they treat Black people in general: Utilize us for profit, then demonize us
Jason is correct. I have seen and heard many comments on TH-cam stating they don’t like the west coast or the west coast sound. And they stated it disparagingly. To the point that I finally posted a comment under a video seeking to get an understanding about what specifically they don’t like about the west coast sound. I am from NC so I am not biased toward the west coast. I personally love music across genres and never gave 1 thought about the region from which the music came.
Jason Martin is on fire in this interview. Droppin' knowledge and facts up in this piece.
Jason keeping it a stack. It’s simply called Respect!!! Make sure that’s the main thing on your heart WHEREVER you go!!! 💯💯👍🏾👍🏾
I must be crazy cuz im born raised midwest and im obsessed w everything WC for 40 years now. Specifically SoCal. Got fam out there and I never want to leave when I visit. I think what makes the west different than any other spot in the states is yall gave us SO much media culture (music, TV, tech, movies etc) that has influenced modern society that it doesnt even seem like a real place. If youre not from there you have a deep preconceived notion of what youre getting into...i think it can be easy to be dissapointed if you dont know how to look past the IMAGE of the west to the REAL culture of the west and appreciate it at a very real level. Just my opinion.
This was a must had conversation 🫡
This is so cool to hear the accountability laced in, like the self awareness and objectivity together. Very nice.
To add the West Coast LOVES the East Coast sound! So many fans of Pro Era, Griselda, and Biggie in So Cal alone.
Straight up! Public Enemy, KRS-ONE, Rakim to Nas, Mobb Deep, BIG to Griselda, backwoodz, Pro Era, and on and on.
East Coast ❤ West Coast, NWA, The Chronic, Too Short ... love it all
@@sgvmvp Born in 2001 and raised in Inglewood, I grew up bumpin’ Joey Bada$$, Benny The Butcher, Big L-the list goes on. The East Coast needs to reclaim what made them trendsetters in the first place. They were creating real art, but now it feels like it’s all about who can sound the hardest on a drill beat. New York and California will always be the cornerstone of hip-hop history. The connection and tension between the coasts-whether good or bad-have exposed each side to the sounds and styles that make both regions iconic.
2:23 Jersey is the same way. NYers and others who grew up dunking on NJ are the reason nobody from Jersey can buy a house in NJ. Pretty funny
I love the way he communicates. I knew you when you had dreads is hilarious
Born in NC and been a fan of west coast music since a kid
I haven’t been to the West Coast besides one time for like two or three days for a wedding. I really want to go over there and experience it fully. Love the west.
Just stay out of Hollywood and Beverly Hills experience the west coast
I am proud to say that as a dane I did not fall into the trap of hating on the west coast when it came to who was winning
Jason it's the same here in Florida!! I'm like if u hate it here MOVE!!😂😂😂
@@awakennow1841 guilty as charged 😂
Can't move...how am i going to become Florida Man somewhere else
Yo, I had a roommate from the Bay, had to move to ATL for school. All he did was nitpick at the things about ATL and the South in general that were not like back "home". I say "home" because his parents eventually ended up moving to ATL. Why do people move somewhere far from home and hate on all the things that aint like home. Then, move back home. GEEZ
I feel what Jason is saying because I have been a West Coast music lover for ever but did not realize I was loving ‘West Coast’ until I moved to Florida and people started pointing out how much I listen to that West Coast stuff. I just thought I love music and good music is good music-Just so happens most of the music I vibe to comes from the West Coast…not all but most.
I love Jason Martin!
Firstly, I need him to specifically identify that’s he’s talking about New Yorkers not ppl from the East Coast! And New Yorkers specifically do that EVERYWHERE they go-West, South, and Midwest-even other states on the East. It’s a part of their delusion. Also, there are regional sounds so an artist being from a place doesn’t necessarily mean their sound is representative of that place. If that’s the case then Drake has been making "Toronto music."
EXACTLY!
The two most dissed cities in the country are LA and NY. Of course people from both cities are going to have a chip on their shoulder. Honestly I met more haters from Georgia, Chicago, Massachusetts, and Maryland 😂
It’s facts. New York is great in the many ways that it is. Yet I personally have never met a New Yorker who can give credit where credit where due to other places outside of their city.
@@otterdonnelly9959Atlanta would like a word. Definitely the most dissed city in the black community.
It’s even worse in the Bay. These black people in the tech world move here and act just like the colonizers they claim to despise. The way they turn their noses up at black people who are actually from Oakland will blow your mind.
A lot of emotion, defensiveness, and conflating going on - but I get it. Having people come to your home and love everything BUT you is soul-crushing. Then when you speak up, basically hearing "The LA sunshine doesn't care who's here - it just shines" has to be infuriating.
The West Coast is killing it and been killing it. Also, battle was over after Kendrick dropped Euphoria (to me). Sincerely, a South Louisiana native, born & raised!!! 😊
From LA to SeaTac, we ARE THE WESTCOAST.💙
I never had a bad Cali experience just expensive af and no menthols
Best vacation in the states I’ve ever had was to Cali, and the only reason I didn’t move there was because I wasn’t ready at the time for the high cost of living! There’s something about sitting at the beach on the Pacific that’s just 🤌🏾
@ the Pacific is different!
At my big big age, I’ll say that growing up on the east coast, my favorite rappers were west coast rappers. Till this day, I favor the west coast! 💥🙌🏾💜
He's not lying but let's be clear, people from LA do the same thing when they go other places. The south experienced this for almost 2 decades brother
Facts!
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The South helped LA rap vice versa
NYC hated The South rap culture
@@DJGary0910 I'm old enough to remember when they used to call it "booty shake" even tho Scarface, UGK, T.I. Wayne Ludacris etc were all staples in southern rap rotations
Facts!!!!!
I'm from the Midwest and grew up off of California music from E-40 to DJ quik to b real from Cypress Hill the Midwest is a lot like the West Coast
The Midwest gives love to everyone but gets no love
I was raised in Cali. I'd never seen a dilapidated house until I went to college in TX. I had never seen a road that was in such bad shape it would tear up your car. They hate us because of our "proper" accent. They hate us because our poverty is not the same as their poverty.
As a middle aged Hip-Hop lover it hurts to hear that people hate on an entire region. I'm a native Philadelphian who grew up on Ice Cube, Spice-1, Ice-T, Snoop, & Hiero while also loving Tribe, The Roots, & Nas etc.
California has the most authentic sound right now. For example, Hit Boy, Jay Worthington, LaRussell, ALC, Dame Funk, and Larry June have the funk essence of a Zapp and Roger or Loose Ends who I grew up hearing in the 80s. That style will always be dear to me.
Not to mention Cali is a beautiful state to visit on some tourist ish.
I am from Northern California and grew up on authentic New York hip hop. I do love the geto boys and dungeon family too. Soul food come on. I do not like drill and modern southern music. Music should have a regional sound. Shame on NY for abandoning their sound. Remember when Nelly jayz Luda outcast and E40 was in the charts. And they sounded like their city. Ghostface killah and E40 are my two favorite MCs. Respect the west. Listen to some freestyles fellowship and hiro. Del is a legend.
I'm from New York and I accepted in my heart the West Coast won the war.. New York forgot there was competition but Cali never forgot they beat us .Cali win
Ca
The reason you have to make southern style music to break is because over 50 percent of black people in America live in the south .. same reason a underground southern rapper can make a ton of money without signing to a major since the beginning (chitterling circuit)
THIS.
👏👏👏👏👏👏...exactly.
I GET what he's getting at, but he's ignoring the fact that the west cost isn't the only sound that gets regionalized.
Up until Outkast, the south got called "country rap"... NY drill is called NY drill because it wasn't originated there, and Chicago (outside of Kanye) wasn't credited as being influential. Every region has a cycle to be loved, and to be hated, I think the VAST majority of that comes from NY, but they do that to EVERY other region
There's nothing wrong with regional sounds. Regional sounds are extremely important for music
West Coast niggas like having a victim mentality. Who tf cares that other regions "hate their sound"? Do they like their own sound? That's all that should matter.
Jason Martin Created My Friday Weekend We Finna Get Dressed And Step Out Song 😂LIKE WAAAAAAAT WAAAAAAT
Problem tripping! Westcoast always have gotten love from the South. And to reference TPABF as the "Jazz" album isn't inaccurate at tf all!
You are BLOWIN UP Justin.....from Richmond VA myself.....keep going!
Drake never recovered from euphoria…he was up at pushups but got washed after that.
He never had a chance once a lame always a lame
@@lordracer7039He thought the money, the power, the fame would make him go away 😂
@@lordracer7039 🎯💯 Drake never recovered from being a Day One lame!
Drake never recovered from that Control verse 😂
If we keep it all the way 💯, Drake probably never recovered from seeing that Kendrick was better than him when he took him on tour that one time 🤷🏾♂️
“He was up at pushups” why because at that point he dropped last? What’s something that was devastating from that song? That beat and flow trash and he said “so many splits your pants might rip” that’s horrible rapping
What WE learned is 🥷🏽don’t like the west coast WE fine wit it WE’LL push the line wit it.
Every podcaster that has reacted to GNX said oh this is west coast music. They don’t say Megs music is Houston. They don’t say future music is ATL.
Because Meg's sound generally speaking is more universal. If she were to make a whole album chopped and screwed, then it would be considered Texas music. Future's music gets referenced a trap music...which is synonymous with which city?
I can remember being in Vegas many times in a club & when the DJ starts shouting out different regions as soon as they get to California everybody start booing
He put that boy in a body bag on Euphoria. I knew what time it was when he dropped that.
The West Coast sound is so vast. I dont understand how people hate on em. Theres somebody for everyone. Blu,TDE, Project Blowed, Aceyalone, Hieroglifics, Souls of Michief, Tyler, Alchemist etc. it baffles me man
Parts of LA remind me of parts of Miami. I love it
just watching this interview wants me wanna indulge in problems music..this is a great interview peeps!..great job PER USUAL justin...💪
Funny you say that, I stumbled on Song with JM and Absoul and ended up downloading JM latest album and I absolutely love it.. Worth the listen .
@Iasia.M hmmmm its really that good ma'am??
@ab-gy3yl So good! I played it all day today.. Give it a try.. I listened to All THAT on Absoul then I pulled up REPACK... Surprised me..
@@Iasia.M haha you cute and funny..ab soul is DA TRUTH!!..how you feel about doechii??🤔🤔
F'em the West Coast rocking out no matter what🏄🏾♀️💪🏾🌅
From someone who lives in upstate ny, I could never hate on a place where it is 75 around Christmas. I'm over here getting dressed for battle just to get some food lol
Lets experience other places with love instead of hate.
I feel you Sis! Lol I was born and raised in L.A. and I took the Vacation weather for granted. I didn't realize what I had til I moved.
It’s the weather they’re fond of. They’re also intrigued with the independent hustle (especially in the Bay Area) the west coast has created. In my opinion, west coasters are the most open minded people. East coast has a “we’re better” smug and some of the south have a regional biased mind set. The term East coast bias is a very solidified one. The fact is we are the trend setters in an affable way. The west can do all. From 808 bounce to trap to introspective to party music to word play bars with no hook or bridge.
Who is y’all? I’ve always loved the West, NWA is one of my earliest memories in life, and it felt so good (particularly the song Express Yourself, and that Eazy -E song that samples We Want Bootsy). I will never forget how The Chronic sounded and the impact it had. Tupac’s All Eyes on Me was EVERYTHING and EVERYWHERE when it came out. Ion know much about DJ Quick, E40 Warren G and the rest of the legends, but it always sounded SO FUCKIN GOOD. Last year I watched both Bad Boy and Death Row at the Source awards, and to me it was clear who were the superior creatives, THE WEST. And now my favorite rapper for the past 10 years, has been Kendrick, in fact he is the ONLY contemporary rapper I listen to (I don’t listen to rap like that, and I’m a project baby). Ion know what’s in the water, but the creativity and swag is unmatched in the West. I think who hates the West is jealous East Coast rappers, not fans
Zaytoven produce a lot of down south music but he’s from the West Coast too
First, the west coast went on a yearlong victory lap. Now the west coast is playing the victim card. Y'all gotta choose one.
California has an outsized economic and cultural impact on American culture so people in certain industries HAVE to be here to make it. They don’t like it and aren’t shy about telling you they don’t like it
In my experience, its the politics of California people hate. Alot of business people have no choice but to live there. Two things can be true. I can hate the political situation while still living there. I also feel this happens in the tri state. Ask people how the feel about NYC and Jersey. Its rare to find someone not from there with anything nice to stay. They live there and hate it.
I am from Midwest but was raised down south I have always loved west coast music over east coast music I'm sorry it's the truth.
I feel the same way about how foreigners living in Japan actively hating on the place while earning off of it
I think Jason is overstating the dislike of the Westcoast sound. Tastes change over time, then loop back around again. West is UP right now. So instead of whining they need to focus and run with the momentum.
Truth is they won't. LA in the last 10 years have only produced 3 rap superstars: Kendrick, Doja, and Tyler. Doja and Tyler don't make West Coast sounding music. As soon as Kendrick has to sit down to create the next album, so will the West Coast and their current wave.
Don’t take it personal, New Yorkers boo each other. LOL!
I do find it funny how people will talk mess about the West and then go back home and rep Cali gangs.
Love the content bruv
Being from the south side of Chicago and traveling to and living in nyc then traveling to Cali. One thing that struck me the most when east coasters would speak ill of the west coast is the overt anti Mexican sentiment. People correlate west coast with Mexicans (its history and demographics after all) and that drives their hate towards the west coast. It’s def something to look at when trying to dissect the unfounded hate.
It goes all the way back to the beginning of hip hop where New York thoigjt the idea that anyone outside of New York trying to make hip hop was wack & deserved no respect because they felt since they originated it no one else had any right to try to create rap music. It started there & then butterflied into a million other reasons/aspects to it
That “people didn’t say he won until the ‘west coast song’” point was on it. 4 songs all west coast producers had tier hands on them…but he didn’t win until “the west coast song (nlu)”.
They hate because West Coast artists can stay on the west and go platinum without the rest of the country ever hearing of you
Cali all day baby ✌️🥂
They been hating the westcoast since snoop n dogg pound kick over the buildings
“Too much WestCoast dick lickin” - Jay-Z on 22 Twos
Then proceeds to ghostwrite one of Dre’s best songs 😂
Nah, before that... why you think they kicked the buildings down?!?
I used to live in Cali back in the 80s as a little kid. Riverside, to be exact. Anyway, i'm a hip-hop junkie, I don't care about region. If the music is good, it's good PERIOD!! S/O to the West, South, East, Midwest.
I respect every regions sound but for me the west coast sound is my least favorite.
I respect yall but sonically it doesn't do it for me.
But overall i like SoCal black culture.
It’s the sunshine. The rest of the country has weather. Us Californians are used the the gleeful experience of seeing the sun 90% of the year. It comes through in the music. Their ears are not tuned to it.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Jason! I’m from the Midwest and I’m older. When I fell in love with hip hop it was NWA, Dre, Cube, Snoop, MC Eiht, Quik etc and I’m a woman. I LOVE the sound and I always will do I agree with Jason! Say you love the sound or you love the music. They need to stop diminishing their contributions!
Just spittin FACTS ‼️‼️‼️
This was great ….You guys should do a podcast weekly 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I really enjoyed this interview. Can we see it in its entirety?
You also gotta trust the flow sometimes. Like maybe NY needed that slowed down, introspective, smooth out thing from the heart space. :))
New Jersey got something to say about most hated
This is a good ass discussion
Agreed we should stop judging an entire coast because some big superstars lost their lives out here. I can see that Kendrick is attempting to make clear the difference between "Cali-resident" and "Cali-resident that is into gang stuff". NY is still seen as a source of historic and fantastic hip-hop and the fact that NY Drill is a thing will never take that way.
quick correction, NY just took the name drill from Chicago, as far as the sound it was imported by England, towards the late 2000s you had a lot of british producers / rappers coming to NY, if memory serves correct, dip-set were the first to sign a british group, SAS, than you had D-block europe etc.
He ain’t lying.
The Jazz 1 😂😂 Kendrick always kept it L.A.
🚨I'm from the deep south and Aubrey was never up!
He’s not lying!! I remember going to school in the south and the hate that I got just being from California was crazy. And it was crazy because it was love in it too. Like huh and they literally refuse to play any West Coast music anytime I go anywhere in the south. As much as I love Nipsey, don’t put him in the club. Like huh are you a DJ and you can’t know which Nipsey to play
Where in the South were you? I lived in LA for a minute and felt like South and Cali Black culture blended more than anywhere else: cars, funk and r&b blended hip hop, the landscape. I remember hearing underground 🎶 and loving those cassettes. When NWA came to Houston we showed much love
@ I went to Mother Tuskegee. Places, I’ve traveled that literally turned their nose up at LA music in a nightclub setting New Orleans, Texas (commerce, Dallas, Austin) Memphis, & ATL. Of course I’ve seen the love as well, but if I try to gauge it…. I have to say I receive more hate than love, especially when it comes to music.
I'm from Ny. We love the west coast since a child. Problem is conflating multiple issues into just hate. There is hate for Wc but not as deep as he's going. Hollywood is hated. Use your brain my guy
You can see it coming in music who this would be blamed on...when you ask receipts itll be ' back to the future '
Gangs are in every region! It’s definitely on the east coast and in the south! That can’t be it, can it! 👀 That’s crazy!!