Jimmy Smith Trio The Sermon

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  • @imbees2
    @imbees2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nobody plays Jimmy Smith anymore! I love his organ!

  • @imbees2
    @imbees2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    True, unadulterated jazz music by very accomplished musicians.

  • @matmarucci
    @matmarucci 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    i worked with jimmy off-and'-on for 10 yrs. very hip solos by mcfadden and jimmy .drummer is grooving them to death. how could anybody give this a thumbs down? can't be 42 ignoramuses out there.
    mat marucci

    • @jimcole6423
      @jimcole6423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You were fortunate to have that opportunity! Jimmy's work is my reference standard by which I measure all other keyboard players against. Juimmy's work was exquisite and his band members as well.

    • @matmarucci
      @matmarucci 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yes...i agree. i was very fortunate. playing a trio with jimmy and kenny burrell was one of the highlights of my career.

    • @flatfox70
      @flatfox70 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Must've been accidental thumbs down or maybe insanity? 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @WillBravoNotEvil
      @WillBravoNotEvil ปีที่แล้ว

      Down-voters do it for attention and you came through.

    • @KarolyKovacs-mn7xr
      @KarolyKovacs-mn7xr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Benson

  • @imbees2
    @imbees2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love jazz organ. An unsung talent, underrated, under appreciated.

  • @imbees2
    @imbees2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jimmy Smith was one of my favorites, when I was a kid. Listening to him being played by my family.

  • @tonydeAraujo
    @tonydeAraujo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Eddie Lee McFadden on guitar. He was on Jimmy Smith's band for several recordings in 1957-58. Passed in 1992.

    • @maxdavidsonchannel
      @maxdavidsonchannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah his solo was godawful. Jimmy was looking at him like "What the hell?" Honestly one of the worst guitar solos in history. But I guess you gotta give it to him that he committed to it. I think he was even in the wrong key.

    • @ultraparadoxical7610
      @ultraparadoxical7610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Guitar solo is great, Max Davidson. Dunno what you smoke but it’s messed your ears up.

    • @maxdavidsonchannel
      @maxdavidsonchannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ultraparadoxical7610 Maybe he was going for something that just didn't work out, which I'll give you, happens in improvisation sometimes. It starts out with a run of fourths down a whole tone scale, and doesn't get any better from there. No establishment of the key center. He uses the Major 7th degree a lot (on an F blues) which, is ok I guess, but not really. The blues is supposed to use what are known as blue notes, and the major 7th of F isn't one of those. That's not to say that maj 7ths can't be used, it's just that a preponderance of them makes it not so much the blues anymore. I'll just point to 1:11 Jimmy gives him a look like, "um, you know we're in F right"? and then, at 2:08 "maybe his amp broken". I know because I've given people looks like that.

    • @richardlawrence3770
      @richardlawrence3770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxdavidsonchannel I think he and Jimmy are going in and out of key during their solos.A bit here and a bit there like searching for something.

    • @Smidball1
      @Smidball1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guitar solo was nice. Jimmy was trying to reharmonize for some strange reason but when he came away from
      It , it was all good again. The Guitar was on top of the bass line.

  • @stephenbabb3805
    @stephenbabb3805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This trio is BRILLIANT ! ! !
    I found them on my phone by
    mistake. They are UNBELIEVABLE
    great. I can't stop listening.
    Finding them has been truly the
    best part of my day.

    • @impala327
      @impala327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The album The Sermon is a must-have! First Smith album i got 35 years ago.

    • @TaigaWutz17
      @TaigaWutz17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You might possibly also like another great Hammond organ player, her name is Barbara Dennerlein. She played with various musicians, and in some constellations sounds similar to the Jimmy Smith Trio. 😉

  • @dreamgirlbethable
    @dreamgirlbethable 6 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Hell YEAH!!! This is the kinda jazz i cut my teeth on when i was a toddler! I'd sit on the floor at band practice and watch my Grandfather play his Hammond B-3 organ EXACTLY like this! He and his band mates would have a jam session, and I got to hear music from Jimmy Smith, Jack McDuff , & Jimmy McGriff. . . . " Uh huh, whatcha know 'bout dat Old School?"

    • @royjones3099
      @royjones3099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Da three kings!!!!

    • @rusty8491
      @rusty8491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your were one fortunate toddler.!!

    • @waltsimsjr4652
      @waltsimsjr4652 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ever been to the Hurricane Lounge or the Crawford Grill?

    • @billmossII
      @billmossII 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@royjones3099 B3 Kings

    • @mattsimpkins9205
      @mattsimpkins9205 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Herbie can't be forgotten .

  • @cardelltabb1845
    @cardelltabb1845 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The greatest of all time

  • @Davett53
    @Davett53 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I got to see Jimmy perform live in Columbus, Ohio in the 1980s & 90s. He came to our annual Jazz Festival along the Scioto River, in downtown Columbus, Ohio. He performed from a simple outdoors, stage, on a grassy knoll, where his adoring fans could stand & sit within feet of him. I'd become a fan of his in 1970s, listening to him on albums. It was the thrill of my lifetime to see him and stand so close to where he was making his magic. I believe he performed on three separate occasions. It was such a cool experience.

  • @calvinhobbes7504
    @calvinhobbes7504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hammond was the father of that fat, Hammond B3 sound ... But Jimmy Smith was the rich, talented uncle who made that sound popular worldwide. His sound and his smile while he played is unforgettable to many of us boomers! :) We'll always love his sound.

  • @adrianmlridgewayarcmlramll1965
    @adrianmlridgewayarcmlramll1965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It’s dosent come any finer than this, absolutely fantastic!!!! Thank you for posting!!!

  • @ramsesstafford4640
    @ramsesstafford4640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good stuff. Jimmy Smith always delivers. 🙌🏽

  • @Ryszard-o8k
    @Ryszard-o8k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Skąd biorą się tacy ludzie. To wprost niewiarygodne. Dziękuję bardzo. Oni sa super extra.POZDRAWIAM SERDECZNIE ❤❤❤

  • @Crezelltree4261
    @Crezelltree4261 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Fact:Keith Emerson was inspired to take up the Hammond organ after hearing Jimmy Smith.So wide was this man's influence.A true legend.

    • @ianhamilton2476
      @ianhamilton2476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jon Lord from Deep Purple described him as a God.If you listen to live in Japan you can hear the influence.

    • @carrios5265
      @carrios5265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Brian Auger, Joy Di Francesco.

    • @truckerkevthepaidtourist
      @truckerkevthepaidtourist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gregg Allman also worshiped him

    • @enrico080860
      @enrico080860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Barbara Dennerlein

    • @pleasantmcneal3482
      @pleasantmcneal3482 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@enrico080860 you as a friend

  • @velibor1234
    @velibor1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    One of the best solo Hammond ever.

  • @frederickludiway9238
    @frederickludiway9238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Jimmy Smith: Its incredible hold Jimmy can hold that right-thumb and the other 4 fingers can soul-fully run up and and down the keyboard. "He makes that organ talk while still running the bass with the left hand. Nothing but "soul comes out of the organist. Incredible Jimmy,...preach it on the organ. "🎹🎹🎹🎶🎶

    • @jascoben7465
      @jascoben7465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A giant musician with genial and incredible improvisational skills. The technique is way out of this world. Play on, Sir; even in death!!!!!

    • @PandolfiVincenzo
      @PandolfiVincenzo 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Even better, I think he ran the bass with his feet!!

  • @timhenry5263
    @timhenry5263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The big surprise here is Jimmy's comping behind the guitar solo. Very cool.

  • @TheRoneZone
    @TheRoneZone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow...apparently I haven't heard enough Jimmy. Always thought of him as more of a bluesy/taste player, but man he is taking the harmony here to another level.

  • @thierrydumas
    @thierrydumas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Merci pour cette mise en ligne! je ne connaissais pas ce live!

  • @manuelbuela9948
    @manuelbuela9948 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The incredible Jimmy Smith and of course, the other two players...

    • @bobsaturday4273
      @bobsaturday4273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      what the hell is that supposed to mean ?

  • @bobbly7132
    @bobbly7132 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Smith's riffs are tops--only McGriff could come close.

  • @codyives5409
    @codyives5409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Stride pianists and Hammond B-3 organists set the bar for jazz music.

  • @robertsalanon2909
    @robertsalanon2909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mes heures passées á "La Paillote " á Paris avec toujours du bon jazz des années 60 !!

  • @reeblesnarfle5443
    @reeblesnarfle5443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mind blowingly good!!! Sailing! And wailin...He got his mojo workin! Rutilater!

  • @charleshuguley9323
    @charleshuguley9323 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My earliest jazz influence, in the early sixties.

  • @danpavlik1554
    @danpavlik1554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish I found this a couple months ago when before I started to go back to the office. I could literally watch this all day long.

  • @walteradams9669
    @walteradams9669 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this is real music.with class.

  • @nigelprettyc3
    @nigelprettyc3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jimmy was the greatest what a soul and an amazing trio what an era to have lived life in such great sounds x

  • @downpatmusic
    @downpatmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Instantly good! Start video, start groove.

  • @royalwulff01
    @royalwulff01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    If they played organ like this in church I'd go.

    • @JeffStudley
      @JeffStudley 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Right there with you brother!

    • @sonnyp4738
      @sonnyp4738 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      they do...

    • @hondotoo
      @hondotoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there are some badass keyboards in church... Chicago south sider here

    • @mattsimpkins9205
      @mattsimpkins9205 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!

  • @777WOY
    @777WOY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is incredible I just want to know what type of person will put a thumb down to this haters 😡😂

    • @stuart8663
      @stuart8663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Deaf people.

    • @WillBravoNotEvil
      @WillBravoNotEvil ปีที่แล้ว

      The type who knew you'd give him attention.

  • @AngelSusie57
    @AngelSusie57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Preach it Jimmy, preach it. Love this style of jazz.

  • @MILKESREALTYVAL
    @MILKESREALTYVAL ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heard him at jazz concert in probably 1967-- at Univ of TX-- fantastic. Why jazz isn't more popular in the US is beyond me.

    • @GeraldCity
      @GeraldCity 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is because Jazz is real... unlike the unrealistic culture we live in.

    • @postatility9703
      @postatility9703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jazz and classical require more listening, but gives better rewards.(I M H O)

    • @charleshuguley9323
      @charleshuguley9323 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@postatility9703And more understanding.

  • @andrewscott7991
    @andrewscott7991 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    THEIRS ALWAYS GOOD JAZZ ORGAN PLAYERS BUT THEN THEIRS ONE LEGEND THE BEST OF ALL TIMES

  • @patriciajustice9795
    @patriciajustice9795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Listen to his CD all the time such great music

    • @harmonichebe
      @harmonichebe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THE man at the hammond b-3, jimmy smith. Be Blessed

  • @imbees2
    @imbees2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Play it Jimmy Smith

  • @prcty
    @prcty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Sermon...yeah Baby!!

  • @helmutrosenau1906
    @helmutrosenau1906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best Organisation in dis World

  • @imbees2
    @imbees2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oooo weee, Jimmy Smith now!

  • @kneelandpray2878
    @kneelandpray2878 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Pure class!

  • @flatfox70
    @flatfox70 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unbelievable 😎

  • @rodmckinney40
    @rodmckinney40 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A great musical history lesson 😊

  • @nickbryant2318
    @nickbryant2318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful sounds wish I was there

  • @prof.t.c.pfeiler1280
    @prof.t.c.pfeiler1280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jimmy Smith - Hammond B3 organ, Eddie McFadden - Guitar, Charlie Crosby - Drums

  • @bustabass9025
    @bustabass9025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Boss of the B3.

  • @peasantsoul
    @peasantsoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    56 people don’t understand how hard Jimmy Smith swings.

  • @tornadolu44
    @tornadolu44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Упокой, Господи душу Великого музыканта!

  • @francool08
    @francool08 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is Godly!

  • @TheGetterdone
    @TheGetterdone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always had a strong bass line. "Yes sah" !

  • @conradsunkiojack2538
    @conradsunkiojack2538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Master picker. When he is on the trail fast or slow, the earth stops rotating for a while. Seek out his iconically titled Album 'Organ Grinder' and the heavens come down! 😎👍✌️

  • @johnschuler6648
    @johnschuler6648 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool..great Hammond work

  • @imbees2
    @imbees2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see Mr. Jimmy Smith on this video!

  •  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very very very GOOD ! Thanks !

  • @cardelltabb1845
    @cardelltabb1845 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sermon with one of my favorites

  • @sheilamacdougal4874
    @sheilamacdougal4874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marvelous.

  • @bzb500
    @bzb500 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They used to have jazz sessions. I don't know if they exit anymore.

  • @Tonewheeldude
    @Tonewheeldude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We had a concert with Jimmy Smith
    in 2005 on the Hammond New B3.
    In Uppsala Sweden.

  • @TIZZIE313
    @TIZZIE313 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    awesome!!!

  • @sergiopaim7884
    @sergiopaim7884 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sensacional 👏👏👏 Gancho, praia grande sp 👍

  • @organickem
    @organickem 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the biggest radio station in NYC played the B side, "Flamingo" daily before the Frankie Crocker show at 4 PM. Frankie was considered the best DJ ever

  • @jantrieger4500
    @jantrieger4500 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    JAMMIN' JIMMY!!!!

  • @imbees2
    @imbees2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All the dudes are playing up on the money on this jam!

  • @fahelm
    @fahelm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The trick #Prince would pinche ... the sustained note. Some #Hammond players used an ashtray on its side for it.

  • @A.ChristopherJohnson
    @A.ChristopherJohnson 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Godly Jimmy Smith !

  • @gmedeiros5748
    @gmedeiros5748 ปีที่แล้ว

    Preach on

  • @A.ChristopherJohnson
    @A.ChristopherJohnson 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes Sir !!!!!

  • @flat5sharp11
    @flat5sharp11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    10:56 on. Sublime Band are grooving , Jimmy builds the intensity...

  • @vgerlightningsarason8897
    @vgerlightningsarason8897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    MIRACLE HAMMOND B - 3 "ALIEN MUSICIAN FROM THE BLACK HOLE SECRETIAN BAND

  • @maggiessong
    @maggiessong 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    C-O-O-L........yaaas.

  • @rmbjr60
    @rmbjr60 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Starting at 11:00 he keeps his right thumb firmly planted on G for a full 2 minutes, yet his 9 other fingers - and two feet! - improvise right over that thumb as if it weren't even there!

    • @jampoles
      @jampoles 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like it was the F key that got stuck not G?

    • @daeone1514
      @daeone1514 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s actually F but that is right huh??

    • @markweaver4424
      @markweaver4424 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct, it was the F key.

  • @rmbjr60
    @rmbjr60 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow I kept waiting for the camera to show the bass player. Finally at 7:12 ;-)

    • @waltsimsjr4652
      @waltsimsjr4652 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jimmys left foot is the bass player. Eddie McFadden on lead guitar and Donald Bailey on drums. Tina Brooks missed the gig on tenor saxophone.

    • @donroberts1420
      @donroberts1420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@waltsimsjr4652 Well yeah 10% of it. 90% played manually

    • @waltsimsjr4652
      @waltsimsjr4652 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donroberts1420 Jimmy was known to use Bob Cranshaw or Ron Carter on upright bass on occasion but the majority of the time he did 100% of the bass with his left foot

    • @donroberts1420
      @donroberts1420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@waltsimsjr4652 Cheers M8. Its been a great myth about Jazz Organists playing bass with feet on pedals. The truth of the matter is that when organists play bass part its done with left hand. A certain amount of tapping takes place with left foot but for the most part its manual left hand. Thats the case with almost all jazz organists with 2 exceptions. 1/ When Jimmy(and some others) played a ballad he would play bass on the pedals, block chords in the left hand on upper manual, and squable with his right on on the lower manual which has no percussion on a B3.... and 2/Barbara Dennelein who cut her teeth on the bass pedals of pipe organs as a child. She can play in 4 at great tempo's but her bass lines are pretty much straight up and straight back down with small steps of intonation all the way. There may be others who do what Barbara does but I've never heard one yet. I have heard some Gospel organists do complex bass parts but not walking like the jazzers, Jimmy, Joey, Jack McDuff etc. I think there is no one to top Barbara at playing fast tempo's in 4 on bass pedals. Check this out th-cam.com/video/fa-nKS89ATI/w-d-xo.html

    • @bustabass9025
      @bustabass9025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@donroberts1420
      Foot pedals and bass clef notes played on an organ or piano by a left hand, will never equal the musical or spiritual quality of a double bass holding down the foundation of a composition. Granted, they can produce a sound, but they will never perform the same music that comes forth from the skillful hands of a trained and educated bassist in the ensemble!

  • @hawkrolla
    @hawkrolla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The reason youtube was invented.

  • @aurelnegrea7617
    @aurelnegrea7617 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unreal. What a great musicians. Hmm.

  • @johngulino2651
    @johngulino2651 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who is the guitarist? Who is the drummer?

  • @ZolaDots
    @ZolaDots 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonder how Mr Smith kept the left hand Bass line steady while he improvised like hell with his right!

    • @darrenwatsonz
      @darrenwatsonz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Talent and practice?

    • @konagolden3397
      @konagolden3397 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bass is played with his feet. The Hammond B3 has bass pedals.

  • @daeone1514
    @daeone1514 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ooohhhhh damn mane!!!! 🙇🏽‍♂️🙇🏽‍♂️🙇🏽‍♂️

  • @haseem7059
    @haseem7059 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great

  • @alessandrogiustetto7464
    @alessandrogiustetto7464 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool cats!

  • @imbees2
    @imbees2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dang!!!!!!

  • @MrIcelander
    @MrIcelander 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fucking Genius, with a capital G!
    And no, I won't say excuse my language, because it's for pieces of brill like this one right there which that word was invented!!

  • @richardleonard4281
    @richardleonard4281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tasty playing all around.

  • @carmens.2474
    @carmens.2474 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is it!

  • @qg3726
    @qg3726 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tres Sobros y Classico es MUY BIEN!!@@

  • @cardelltabb1845
    @cardelltabb1845 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still trying to learn some of his music

  • @glevumguy7850
    @glevumguy7850 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know the name of the guitarist who played with his back to the audience. I saw him with Jimmy around 1966 in Bristol UK. He was seated, with his back to the audience throughout the whole concert, Pakistani or Indian I think.

  • @danielpaulgaddis
    @danielpaulgaddis ปีที่แล้ว

    is Jimmy stomping out the bass line too?

  • @vgerlightningsarason8897
    @vgerlightningsarason8897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Butterfly fingers !!

  • @montshinkone6501
    @montshinkone6501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙌🙌👍🙏

  • @imbees2
    @imbees2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jimmy Smith and Richard Groove Holmes were rivals on the organ. Jimmy had more backing from record companies, so he outlasted Richard Groove Holmes. I think Richard was a better organ player.

  • @123must
    @123must 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a ot !

  • @imbees2
    @imbees2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jimmy has piano fingers.

  • @montshinkone6501
    @montshinkone6501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like IT

  • @KarelStuiv
    @KarelStuiv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    top fantastik

  • @impala327
    @impala327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tape over the f-holes on the guitar?

  • @hedjamavieille
    @hedjamavieille ปีที่แล้ว

    Who's playing the bass guitar ? (Just kidding)

  • @garlandkallam849
    @garlandkallam849 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    not to fast,not to slow,,just right.

  • @johannespontasch1135
    @johannespontasch1135 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me too

  • @LandyFSU
    @LandyFSU 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know whose on guitar?

  • @bobsaturday4273
    @bobsaturday4273 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    whos on guitar & drums ?