Edelbrock Performer RPM heads - let's see if they are any good???
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- In this, episode 57 - part 2 of the Edelbrock Performer RPM cylinder head review, DV continues the to simple but effective modifications to the ports. The mods shown are all acompanied by not just flow figures but also flow effeciency, velocity, port energy improvements, swirl etc. far more data than is seen on any other porting video.
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it's shocking to me that these videos are getting such low views. this is INCREDIBLE knowledge being passed on here
Don't be surprised, DV tells people what they NEED to hear to make horsepower not what want to hear. Most people want to be told hard, fast and simple rules on how to build hp, they don't want to waist time all the details.
I know a guy who has built many high performance engines and he told me that putting larger valves in a head kills torque output. He told me he's done it before and it always resulted in less torque. I tried to tell him that you haft to do work to the rest of the head to make the change pay off and he just said "diesels use small valves for a reason".
Like I said, hard, fast and simple rules.
Well for the most part they're quality viewers not quantity. I'll take that any day.
Give it time, it will grow
Not shocking to me. This is highly esoteric information for a niche market: old school pushrod V8s in the age of electrification. Like it or not, kids care a lot more about social media and video games than cars. We are the last of our kind. Kinda like ROCK stars. 😕
@@johnflett2531 *waste time on details. Waist is that thing above your jelly roll 😉
I am begging Edelbrock to please continue to produce the FE CJ style cylinder head. The overseas companies cannot compete with the quality of the FE heads that we have worked with for years. I can’t port iron anymore. But I can port aluminum. I really like the fact that the castings are generous for porting. I want to be able to shape the CJ port to accept a 2.165 and 1.65 with a generous amount to be able to bowl hog to the valve diameter and to be able to cross the flow away from the bore wall. The Ford engineers really knew what they were doing designing the FE and I really hope that Edelbrocks FE Ford heads will maintain their great power production!
I'd love to see this kind of detailed explanation on more Ford and Chrysler applications for sure and more different Chevy's as well!
It's obvious that we live in a world of know it all's or the views on these videos would be through the roof, thank you DV for all you've done over the years and all you are doing now, you're a tremendous help to me and my little 383
Utube is highly controlled and agenda driven. Ole Dave don't fit in with what "they" are pushing. They don't want people learning, they want people stupid. That's why some homosexual doing its makeup will get 6 million views in 6 minutes. Utube removes views from my fuckin videos daily. Ain't that strange....
Those same people responsible for everything you don't like in life also control utube.
@@thereluctantgearhead4544 yup, they are the fallen angels, fallen from within.
@@zAvAvAz Probably aliens that took over this planet long ago.
This is the most informative engine building information I have ever encountered. It is targeted at the highest level and requires a good understand of engine building. I have never built a V8 engine. All my builds are 4cyl. However the airflow dynamics are the same. We are very lucky to be able to hear this information.
Awesome job David. I really like the castings you make. Sure makes a great visual summary
I learn something every time David thanks
He is The Godfather of Racing engines. For Real
I could watch the 2 hour detailed version too. 😊 the only cylinder dynamics details that you give go way beyond just porting heads to flow.
best edelbrock head review (and detailing ) I've ever seen
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Thanks DV,,,,,,,,great power and torque after the rework,,,,,,,,,,,5800 rpm,,,,,,,,,,got many of your books,,,,but these vids are top notch........
From one old timer to another. You put a smile on my heart. Keep on keeping on brother 👍 your knowledge is priceless. Thank you !!!
Incredible information Mr Vizard. So much insight into making winning motors. I wish I was able to attend one of your classes. Can't thank you enough for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you Mr. Vizard for this excellent lesson. It is very much appreciated.
Thank you soo much David.
Thanks for the very detailed explanation and instructions. I gladly liked and subscribed.
What is Mr. Vizard putting on video recently is bi far the best head porting content on YT. Thank You sir!
Your knowledge and the information you share is in a class of it's own. Just amazing. Cheers
This video was an eye opener! Thanks again, and keep it up!! I’ll be here watching!
Great stuff DV!!....Thanks for all the info and insights....thanks for all the videos,.... a great learning experience.....the graphs you use in your IOP program are really helpful as well....greatly appreciated....Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.....
Beautiful workmanship!
Thank you David for sharing your knowledge. This is very interesting.
Fantastic work d.v ...me and a student of yours speak of you regularly and how it is a pleasure to watch and learn .thank you for all you do
Amazing material Sensei Vizard. Happy Holidays from Chile!
First if all, I myself have been watching this 3 part sequence with genuine enjoyment because these heads are quite popular, and your treatise on them is BY FAR the BEST I have ever seen! I concur with others in being ASTONISHED that you have not gotten many thousands more views so far! Really EXCELLENT SHOW. Word should increase views, and people need to INCREASE their attention spans! Keep on keeping on Dave, you love what you do, and we do too!
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the high tech charts are beyond most that watch..................................................................................
Very good video David.
Thank you for your time.
Very good results.
Take care, Ed.
Awesome video David! Thank you very much for your time and experience! I can't thank you enough..👍👍👍👍👍
It’s very kind of you to share in this way Mr. David. Your insights and working knowledge you are conveying are a generous gift.
Will you still be making the IOP program available? Or, will the cam company gobble it up? Thank you.
Thanks as always D.V. Cheers!
Excellent honest review
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Merry Christmas to you and your crew and family!! Always thank you for your hard work and videos. If you ever find time to do a video on the bathtub Pontiac heads, it would be much appreciated.
Thank you for what you do .
Thanking greatly for publishing and sharing this marvelous video Mr.David! I love you videos and the content you have been giving out for us! Staying on the topic of porting, I'd love to hear or see any tips on hints of improving the Chevy's L98 aluminium 113 cast head
Thank you , I always learn something new.
Yes this was a great video with lots of usable information if you were to Port your own cylinder heads
Great video David. Like to see how you polish finished those ports and a compare on predicted power and torque gains from pre working those heads. I would like to apply these techniques to some Edelbrock Performance RPM heads for Ford Fe but know the heads would have different chambers and flow characteristic requirements. Always like to hear your comments.
thank you for your videos sir
Mr. V, after your successful porting of an aftermarket casting, do you ever help create a CNC porting program for the manufacturer to replicate your work? EDIT: Imagine being able to bolt on Edelbrock/Vizard heads. They already have Glidden Ford heads and Pat Musi big blocks.
Thanks, I keep learning more and more from your videos. Most of the cylinder heads I've seen you work on have similar port to valve angles and therefore similar bowl work needs. In a future episode could you work on a head with a steeper port angle so we could see the difference between the flow through the bowl area and into the combustion chamber. How that effects deshrouding ect.
Oh yes please. I am getting prepared for work on a BMW M20 head and woul certanly apreciate it.
DV I have your books, ported a set of WP Torquer heads. I think with good results. Very noticeable difference. I learned more from this 1 video than any book you have put out . If you could do a motor from start to finish. Oil pump porting ring selection and so on it would be amazing.
Thanks for the great videos.
Awesome DV
Thank you for sharing! I like these tech videos and looking forward to what you do on Mission Impossible
He's correct about the offshore heads getting pretty good! My son put together a lil 383 and put some Pro-Maxx heads on it, and it rips! He got the cnc ported version of the Maxx 200's I believe they are, and out of the box they've worked really good for him, for about 2 years now.
Great vidja 🤙🏼
Really cool knowledge. I ported a set of 487x sbc to learn on and I gotta aset of those edelbrock heads won't get it that good but I will practice on some 624 worst heads for a truck reveiw your video and then do the edelbrock heads. Thank you
Very good Information!
30 years ago that would be savage power, now it's a street build! It would be a fun drive for sure.
Thanks for info
Mr. Vizard did you ever test Mickey Thompson 's Super Scavenger Headers or what was your opinion of them?
Quite a science class.
Can you do a 4valve per cylinder head I love everything about the channel and I'm trying to build my car at home.. so I'm going to try to put everything i learned from you guys into practice 👍👍👍
I remember the early 1970's and British car modification magazines.David Vizard was the only writer who knew what he was talking about. Most of the others were mere journalists who wrote total clueless bollocks.
Good information.
David, how much different are the Edelbrock E-Tec heads?
thank you for another interesting video, it would be appreciating if you could make an episode about piston pin offset and moving the bore in the block and what power gains tou can make, regards magnus watching from Sweden
Nice video I have heard of top end package kits . If that’s the way to go. Just have a nice stout bottom end to go with the other parts. So the average person can build a nice engine.
Seasons Greetings David Vizard. Thanks for all the TECH 10 videos. I was wondering what you think of Eagle forged rods and crankshafts? Have you ever used that brand? Thank You Leslie
You have over looked a very important area i purchased two pair of performer RPM #60899 from Team C performance in southern California and prior to installing them on the Engine i noticed that the pushrod guideplates did not line up with the cylinder heads. After calling the so called hot shot at Edelbrock and had no help from them i decided to take matters into my own experience i looked at isky adjustable guide plates then i saw a piece from Jomar there unit had a greater range of adjustability part #1501 Edelbrock supplied guide plates installed more than half of them would not even let them go in the heads you spend a lot of money you would expect them to work!
Im not a amateur mechanic i have 55 years experience and have built many bracket engines the cylinder heads you demonstrated are old first castings i purchased them in 2021 newer ones darts are no better unknowing people still grind out guide plate slots and other horrendous acts of butchery that are catastrophic in the no so distant end
Please pass it on dont forget! You cant overlook anything
Do it wright or pay the price
Robert A.Roman
NHRA S/G SS/ST
I'm not in any position to ignore what is, obviously - the best damn shop talk video blog out there. However my interests are limited as are many others, to what I have that needs to have some TLC fromm me. Because it's not going to be given what attention may be needed from anybody else. And like many others I have a real hard time getting the information specific for my problem. Specifically, I have a GAP 1986 Chevy an...with a 305 small block. It's never going to be even close to the '69 327 Camaro I used to have. Worse yet, I'm in California. That car had the The 'Fuely ' camel hump heads,1.94" in+ 1.50 ex , but the solid lifter Duntov cam. LOT'S of suicidal fun...but nothing that I learned then will help me now. Where's any good, and DIY oriented info to do a decent 305 SBC. build? Thank you for all of this,every thing you say is priceless.
Great what are you doing here DV. I learned a lot of your videos here. Keep on doing your great stuff. Have you a comparison Edelbrock and and one of the overseas competitors? In my opinion Edelbrock is to exspensive what they are.
Does anyone else have massive glitches/pixilation when watching Dave's videos?
Could just be my end but in case it's not just letting you know.
Cheers Dave, we're all learning heaps. 👌
Yes
No glitches at all.
Viewed fine for me. No pixelation
Great video, thanks. Looking at the port molds you made after modification, I found myself wondering if the manufacturers could convert those shapes into cores for casting the raw heads.
2 words here:
He's good
Thank you for your time to try to explain things so even I understand some of it.
How would you do a chamber that is tilted the other way around and looks to be shrouded on the short side . (Porsche 944 8valve)
Thank you for all you effort of educating us with your knowledge and experience.
Although I'm not even close to working on V8 engines or tune them, this is very interesting and many of the principles you are showing here can be applied to almost every engine.
I'm more into small diesel engines tuning/performance and I have some questions regarding how does boost affect the flow of a port and how does it affect the valve train, the spring to be specific. The basic instinct tells me that the more boost you run, the spring will have more resistance when having to pull up the valve. Is that something you can calculate/measure? I'm very curious if you have any input or a video on this.
Greetings from Romania.
I found interesting a couple things you mentioned improved low lift especially. I would be interested in some specific mods to do to improve low lift, or mor mid to low rpm operation. I want low end torque, and good fuel mileage, with cam that will be long lasting so it isn't pushing limits of the valve train, on an engine that will rarely ever go beyond 5k rpm. Say a 305, 307, 283 displacement. Not looking to get 500hp, but mor like close to 300 ish. Your mission impossible engine seems like what I am looking for. Great stuff!
Im doing my 305 and looking for more @ cruiseing speed on t superslabs. These vidoes show me a lot. Living in CA. Im limited by smog regs. To an RV cam, but with 1.6 ratio rockers I think it could work well enough.
Can you give us some knowledge on back side valve finishes Mr Vizard. Swirls finish or dimpled maybe or a grove before for turbulence. Dont see much on this subject. Esp low lift flow and back side shape and stem dia in port effects. Smooth vs knurled stem Be really neat to see how it all works Thank you.
Great video David. I'd love to see something similar with Chrysler small block edelbrock heads or magnum heads. Mopar guys don't have many choices when it comes to aftermarket replacement heads.
I am doing a set of Dodge 302 castings for the Mission impossible project. Check it out. Thanks
@@servediocylinderheads just checked out your videos. Nice work!
@@grahamm3559 Thanks, I have a good teacher.
I'd like to see some intake work of the victor, and the rpm airgap If you'd be interested in that. Any rate I apreciate your time, and patience to teach us
After DV gets through porting these heads, he should send them back to Edelbrock so they can use them for a pattern.
Very informative Video. Id like to see you give your professional opinion on a set of Trick Flow 230cc CNC heads for the Small block Chevy.
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I would like to see a work up like this on the Popular DNA Motoring/AFR Enforcer/Skip White SBC head. I'm sure it comes from others as well. Would show that difference the off shore manufactures have picked up in the last 5-10 yrs
It's good you have the knowledge to keep everything straight, big job... What size of cfm would you use on a BBC 468 cu.in., around at least 12.3 to 1, or better, thanks...
David, i noticed in your books that you do a fuel dam on the intake bowl on some of the small block chevies, was wondering if it helps/hurts the flow and port velocity.
on the short radius does a few dimples help wet flow characteristics ?
Dave I would love to see you do a Pontiac Performer rpm round port they go over 340 now but I feel you could do bettter. Now with offset shaft rockers iir they go 400 thanks!
How good or bad are the newer EDELBROCK 60759?
LOVE CYLNDER HEAD REVIEWS how about afr enforcer sbc
Can you do a video on how you made the mold?
Great! But...are PBS Scuderia Topolino heads any good?
I would like to see a test with Victor Jr SBF heads In Depth like you do and see if my solid roller Howard’s 640 lift is a good match for them ?
I have a question or two.
1. Would this be for NA or boosted? Or both?
2. Does this do anything for a towing application?
3. What would be best for a BBC 454 for towing?
Three build paths build what you have, start over building a Chevy for maximum power, or learn to wire and program a LS for all out beige
@ 26:00 Like Lake Speed says, you're making soup, all the ingredients have to be right.
1/2 inch ball cutter/grinder. Well it looks smaller than that. Half of an inch is more then 1,25 cm aka 12,5 mm.
i would like to see the complete Edelbrock Cam Lifter Spring Head Intake and Carb Fine tuned setup by you, its What im working on with a Set of Vortec China Aluminum Heads f9or my 66 336 SBC it has speed pro popup pistons and connecting rod with ARP bolts!
Man That is like ice cream so good omg delicious. I am a Motörhead. I know I ain’t right lol but God don’t make no Junk
Mak8ng more flow from heads that shouldn't need it but do.
With a 700 lift solid roller cam and
270 At 50 duration along with 12 to one compression that Edelbrock
Head you modified should potentially
Make 650 hp yes?
Never seen any running internal combustion engine draw 28 inches of vacuum.unless the valves are stuck closed it’s not going to run.
How about a Duramax head flow upgrade.
Where do you get your grinding bits? The ones I use don't seem to last very long.
I buy mine from Buckeye carbide. Excellent quality and good price.
@@servediocylinderheads Ok thanks, I'll give them a try.
Apparently, some horsepower Gods have a British accent.
Brodix rules
Have you reviewed e street heads
Sorry Estreet for Chêvy small block
The time he puts into crippled heads are a wot. Just start with much better heads.
I bought some cheaply made heads for my c4 corvette. The heads were bent 2.6mm between in the middle when I placed them together.
I torqued the mid bolts first, so I could find out how much torque was wasted to make them flat. The heads are the crappy Edelbrock RPM, Poorly made in the U S A.