How to attach ANYTHING to a Dot & Dab wall
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2019
- Dot & dab walls are really common in UK homes built over the last 30 years or so. It's basically where the plasterboard / drywall is glued on to the blockwork with a special adhesive. The glue is applied in dots and dabs approx. 200mm in size - hence the name dot & dab. A lot of people struggle hanging stuff on dot & dab walls - in today's video I'm going to show you how to hang just about anything on dot and dab. From very light things like pictures and mirrors through to really heavy stuff such as giant radiators. Remember to always follow manufacturer recommended loadings for the fixing being used depending on the wall type. I've just covered some common scenarios here. There's a link to the reference article with more information below. Enjoy!
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I didn't even know dot and dab was a thing until we messed up putting up some shelves (that I'd always been fine with before). This is super useful, thank you.
I sit and weep every time I put fixings in the wall as they always seem to be the wrong ones. Now subscribed. No more tears™ (which is probably also a good name for a DIY product range for novices).
What a fantastic video!
As a complete amateur DIY dad, who enjoys watching and learning, I think my confidence in putting up shelves off has grown exponentially.
Thanks.🤓
I've never seen dot&dab walls here in the USA, but I'm sure somebody here has done it. It seems like an ingenious way to get a flat surface on walls (especially poured concrete) that are a little irregular. My outside walls have the drywall nailed to wood strips, which are nailed to the blockwork, so anchoring into them is very similar. My neighbor had a kitchen cabinet that didn't go up to the ceiling, so the wall anchors were the only thing holding it and it started separating at the top. I took a look at it and drilled a 5/8" or maybe 3/4" hole all the way into the block, which was hollow, so I used one of those toggle-bolt anchors with flip-out tabs and that has held the cabinet for about 15 years. The only disadvantage I see with them is that the flip-out section will fall into the wall and have to be replaced if anyone wants to remove and replace the cabinet.
Just spent £40 on fixings thanks to your video. Subscribed.
Thank you so much for this video.
Sick to death of everything I ever attach to the wall being a piggin' nightmare.
I will be duo-powering from here on.
Legend.
Ive only recently come across fixing to dot and dab, some success, some less so. I think I can handle most situations now. Many thanks for this info.
Great video! I'd love to see a companion video on how to fix about ANYTHING to Lath & Plaster walls. :-)
Very informative, clearly explained. I would add the Rigifix M6 and M8 anchors. Rigifix M8 x 4 pcs holds my Sony 75" TV securely. Just in case of the tectonic shift... Sony recommends for wall mountings to bear 2.5 times of the weight of the TV. Only Rigifix anchors answer this requirement.
Rigifix seem to also have a pan head / washer type head which is ideal for metal brackets instead of countersunk screw head. I've just bought some for fixing a heavy Ikea Godmorgon bathroom cabinet.
Videos are first rate,very informative and practical for DIYers, many thanks
Cheers Mark!
Your tutorials are brilliant, my friend. Thank you
Great video! Explanation of wall construction in the start helped a lot.
Thanks buddy, i think that i have just done a PhD in fixings now after seeing this video. What would be great is if you add approximate weight range for each of these fixings. Saved it in my favourites for future reference. Great work.
Really useful video, looking forward to seeing the next one when you get out of hospital.
Thoughts appreciated. 😀👍
Thanks for the great info, I wish I had seen this sooner. I have been dithering for weeks on which fixings to get for my dot and dab walls. I see now those duopower plugs will do just what I need. You've got a new subscriber!
This has helped me unbelievably! Thanks very much!
Is next video how to patch 6 random holes in dot and dab wall ?
Very possibly 😂
I was thinking that lol
Jokes but honestly the amount of random holes in my walls from trying and failing to attach stuff to them I’d concerning.. so a video dedicated to patching up holes effectively, especially when there are several dud holes close together
Excellent sir...thank you for explaining the fittings for dot & dab!!! Wow. You just proved a point. Great stuff. New sub.
Great video!! Came to find information and I found it here. Top stuff!!
The corefix were great for me. Really useful video Andy, thanks.
I have also ditched all my rawlplugs and replaced them with duoplugs, I use them so infrequently anyway I may as well have one plug that can do anything
Great video as always ! Lots of useful details, tips and tricks! 👍👍
Cheers bud - no worries! 👍👍
Excellent comprehensive video. Thanks
I use Rigifix to hang very heavy items on D&D walls, and Gripit (all 4 sizes) for lighter items and from ceiling plasterboard. They work great.
Another belter. Have these walls on new house. Given me some great pointers.
Lobe the fact you did this to your own walls....🤣🤣🤣
Needs must! 😂👍
You can use a wall bolt to hang something on if you get a longer bolt for it & run a nut up the thread, use the nut to tighten the fixing in the wall & the adjust how much you want the bolt to protrude.
Great video, the only video you should watch on the topic.
Fantastic video. I've been DIYing for years and this has taught me such a lot. The kind of stuff every house owner needs to know. You've got another subscriber 👍
Brilliant video, very helpful! Many thanks.
Great video. Thanks for the info that will help with fixing items to th3 walls of my daughters new house 👍
Learned something today - Back to Back Duofix, cheers mate, much obliged.
Thanks Andy - very useful information
No worries! 👍👊
Really helpful video thanks. Been watching your videos today and they are great. You’ve got yourself a new subscriber! Keep up the great content
Great video, I have been trying to find ways to fix things on my dry lined walls and since this is my first time with such walls there is a lot to learn. The issue now is that that core fix product doesnt seem to exist here in Australia.
Good video, helped us discover our conservatory wall is dot & dab. Thanks
I wish I'd known these tips ~10 years ago. I used to struggle so much with fastening onto (what now know was dot & dab) walls!
Not just very helpful and full of killer tips, but humerus (ish) also. Great stuff.
Good vid as always - one of the huge plus points that you missed is that dot and dab can look fantastic on even the worst of walls. We renovated an old house and have a mixture of Dot and Dab and solid walls. Yes, the solid walls are great for fixing big heavy stuff onto very quickly and easily, but the dot and dab walls look SO much better. If I did it again, I'd dab the lot.
That's really informative, thank you! I'm trying to figure out the best fixing to get a fire extinguisher on a dot-dabbed wall. It's 2kg so not a lot of weight, but the mount doesn't look like it'll take a very wide screw.
Great informative video ,great stuff.
Andy, I have a spare room if you need it👍 Gonna get ❄️❄️❄️ when the boss 👀👀 what some blokes done to her wall. 😉
Thank you - appreciated. 😂
I agree with almost everything you have except you need to use either a blow tool pump or a vacuum depending on weather the hole is solid or a cavity to stop the mechanical fastener slipping on the dust in the walls of the hole. FYI I have been proffeshionally trained to test fixings for the last 20 years.
Great video mate 👍🏻
Fantastic video. Really useful 😊
Currently renovating my house, how do you fix into lathe & plaster walls?
nice one Andy i am having one of those setting tools ;-) I haven't had much luck with them on cavity wall plasterboard
They're great. Hard to get hold of now for some reason. 👍
One more bit of info before you go drilling holes in dot and dab walls.. .
Modern houses have plastic pipes in the plumbing system, so don't rely on electronic pipe detectors.
I used to ask customers to put their heating on full blast in the morning before I start work in their house.
That way, I could feel the temperature of the wall, where there was plastic pipes carrying hot or cold water, I could feel the temperature difference on the wall
but the electronic pipe detector would fail to warn me of any pipes.
The same goes for plasterboard that is lined with metal foil.. Those electronic cable/pipe detectors will warn you of cables or pipes any position you place them on a wall.
I use a divining rod to detect water pipes behind walls. Never fails.
Yup - defo. Link in the description to my 'finding pipes & cables' vid... I think. 👍👊
Another good tip ;-)
I live in a new build and the plastic pipes have a thin layer of foil within the plastic so that they can be detected. That's what the developer said on one of our site visits anyway 👍
It works great with large format tile
Great tips as usual.
Regarding the big boy rawl bolts for picture hanging. I imagine you could just cut the spacer another 10mm longer so the bolt head and washer protrude the finished wall.
Then it can be cranked up tight. Just a thought.
Thanks for sharing.
Yup - or also use the threaded rod type and put a nut on the end. 👍
Wonderful instructions, thanks so much from a complete novice.
good stuff andy i enjoyed your video good tips,
The explanation of each exactly fits how my brain works 👍
Brilliant video
T Bolt fixings are fantastic for dot and dab
Great content! Can I secure wooden battens on to dot and dob walls with this fixing?
Bloody brilliant
Nicely done once again 👍. Good luck explaining to Mrs Mac.. how about hanging a really really big picture over all the holes... if only you had some wall plugs left 😂🤣😂. Keep up the awesome vids 👍.
Cheers Frank! 😂👍
Such a helpful video! Brought me to conclude that the core fix screws will be what I need to mount my tv (25kg) to my dot and dab wall. Question: now you've done to that the wall to help us all learn, what do you do to patch it up?
Great video as usual! Could you do a video on removing all of those types of fittings with as little damage as possible to the wall incase you had to replace the fixing?
Will hopefully sort that at some point! 👍👊
nice work the Core fix product is new to me
I use to install plasma tv's around 10 years ago and some were really heavy, I used the 8mm anchor shield bolts (around 15:35 in your vid) with 10mm nuts as the spacer, as a test I would hang off the bracket!
That little dust catcher is genius...
Hi Andy, surely, the thickness of what you are attaching to the wall needs to be taken into account when deciding the screw length?
Really useful thanks
I fancy getting one of those go pro hammers now!
Great video, very helpful. I have been looking for your Thermalite brick dot and dab video that you mentioned that you were planning. If you did produce it please can you post a link to it. Cheers.
Great video! Do you have another on using chemical resin to support shelving on a dot and dab wall?
Great videos,what fixings would you suggest to hang items on insulated plasterboard walls with concrete blocks behind.i have drilled and hammered in express nails and hammered in the normal 6 mm rawl plug into these to allow the screw to fix to these,I used the express nails to get the load through to the blockwork ,I guess this acts the same way as the core fix,any suggestions?
Good video!
very helpful .cheers
Good video. Just a question on if you're needing to fit a heavier item to the dot and dab wall. Would a RigiFix fitting also be equivalent to the two fixings on the right of the 4 you showed in the demonstration?
And there was me thinking you would use those nice spiral fixings....
😂
Ha ha! No. 😂
I use them all the time hanging 32 inch tvs on dot an dab walls
No problems
@@scottmclean4237 I use them to hang joists off render when building houses - no complaints yet!
Came to this video after a massive fail with those spiral things.... 🙈
Hi, really appreciate the video. I have a question: based on your info. the Corefix anchors seem suitable to support some new kitchen cupboards (Ikea). My wall is plasterboard, dot and dab, however I have a long section of the support rail without any dabs to screw into/through nor above or below the actual fixing to add support and I'm afraid the plaster board might start to deflect around the anchors. Do you think the rigidity of the rail will prevent this or should I use a different type of anchor at these points bearing in mind I only have a 20mm cavity. Thanks.
Thanks for the tips. Your Mrs must be reet pissed with the mess you made of her walls!
Hi Andy, love the channel! Been going through and binge watching old episodes! I have a 120cm floating shelf to put up with a 7kg max capacity. Should I use corefix or duos? Would corefix be overkill?
Great video. I'm currently thinking wether to secure a pull up bar in my shed wall (dot and dab) or outside onto solid brick wall, I would prefer it in the shed but I'm not sure which fixing to use. Any advice appreciated
Hi again Andy, for really heavy items, have a look at "Rigifix" wall anchors. They're like a heavy duty version of the Corefix anchors you mentioned. Much better than Rawlbolts for Dot & dab.
I've used Rigifix to hang heavy (and heavily filled) kitchen wall cabinets ... no issues at all. Great product.
Thanks a lot for the video. I’m just about to hang a 65 inch TV on a dab and dot plasterboard wall and the information in this video was great.
Do you think there is a large enough gap on a dab and dot wall to run the TV cable behind it?
What fixing would you use for a job like this.
Many thanks!
Many thanks
Cheers mate... these ruddy walls have been driving me mad! The back to back duo plug method is amazingly strong, just what I was looking for!!
This is a fantastic video. We have one dot and dab wall in our kitchen with an inch or so cavity to square the room. I’d like to hang a breakfast bar on brackets against the wall - is this possible? If so, from your video I see that perhaps a core fixing or wall bolt would be best - would you possibly suggest the ideal fixing length to go into the block work behind? Thank you!
Great man... What would you use to fix a 40kg punch bag to dot and dab over brickwork? Thanks.
Great video
👍👊
Brilliant video. Just a quick question, should you need to remove the corefix fitting, how would you do it as it has the metal sleeve? Would you screw the screw back in a few turns and lever it out?
Really helpful video! I am trying to fix a bike mount to a dot and dab wall and was planning to use the corefix fitting but I cannot drill deep enough into the wall behind the plasterboard. Any advice? I was thinking of putting in a few screws into a dab of adhesive but not sure whether that will be strong enough for holding a bike.
Very clear and detailed. Thank you. I want to attach a 20kg Ikea Godmorgon bathroom cabinet to a dot and dab wall with brick behind it. It seems like the corefix fixings would be easiest but Ikea specify using a pan head screw instead of countersunk so that there is a good connection between the screw and the metal wallmount / bracket for the cabinet. I've searched but I can't find any pan head / washer head type screw that Corefix sell. Can @GosforthHandyman give any recommendations?
Awesome video! This is great info! Re the wall bolt being tight.... Could You pop a longer bolt in and tighten down a nut to work the expanding bits while leaveing some bolt sticking out?
Yup - defo an option - you'd be best with the threaded rod type rather than these ones. 👍
Hi matey. What the best product to attach coat rack,? Would you recommend the geefix fixing or the corefix????
What fixings do you recommend for fitting wooden blinds in a recess? It’s a new build so likely dot and dab.
Proper learnt from you! The "ask your dad" method didnt work for me as he has solid walls and i have dot & dab! Got a box of duo powers from screw fix. Putting all sorts on the wall. Manly as chuff mate 👍
Awesome stuff !! 😂👊
Great help, quick question, with running two duo powers back to back, do you need fully threaded screws? In your test Tuesday for them you use the fully threaded as the manufacturer recommends them but it doesn’t look like you are using them here. Thanks!
Next video: How to fill plug holes in plasterboard walls! If you're going to get killed for drilling the holes, might as well get two videos out of it! 😂
The cavities in our walls are at about 2 inch, and they spaced the dabs out so much that the wall is basically a trampoline, but that's Barratts for you!
Ha - wow! Yeah seen a few walls like that! 👍😀
@@GosforthHandyman Yep we live in a Barratts home and found that the gap beyound the plaster is 40mm (I guessing breeze next)?
Please can you give us some advise on the plugs to use for a clothes hanger, cheers
Btw really enjoy your vids 👍
I’ll see your Barratts and raise you a Morris Homes piss poor build quality
Know I know what dot and dap is. I'm really liking our stick framing (2x4 or 2x6) in Western Canada.
Ahhhh yes this is how my walk is!
Hi I really enjoyed your video. I want to embark on my first ever diy project by fixing timber slats to my dot and dab wall. I have thinking I could nail it in but I would be interested in what you would do.
Very interesting but I don’t think my party wall will be very happy. Great video must save this
Cheers! 👍😀
Would these be any good for going through external wall insulation? The corefix I mean.
Which one would be best for fixing the top of a wardrobe to dot and dab wall since the force to prevent topple is axial pull force?
Do you have a link to where you purchased your spacers from for the wall anchors?
Thanks so much for the upload. I am gradually becoming a DIY professional. How would I have known my wall is a Dot & Dab type if it were not for your video? Thanks again mate.
I suppose you could knock on the wall and see if some parts are hollow or not
Hi Andy have you ever tried Dryline Pro Fixings
The cavity is generally filled with insulation so any water penetrating the bricks can have an easy path to the porous blockwork to enable the water to penetrate through to cause damp on the inside walls. Water penetrating the bricks when insulation is not present just trickles down to the bottom of the outside wall and escape to the outside which is of course below the houses floor level because it was properly built and not slapped together the easy jerrybuilt way right?