FGW Class 180 Faults And Failures

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  • @SouPacCon
    @SouPacCon ปีที่แล้ว +65

    "A burst or any similar defect in any toilet can result in a loss of main reservoir air pressure"...
    Dear lord...

    • @FarmYardGaming
      @FarmYardGaming 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Blimey!

    • @grahamallen1970
      @grahamallen1970 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Toilet is air solenoid operated as are all controlled emissions toilets so if a air leak or heavy loss of air it affects the trains main air res (around 10 bar) if main res drops to around less than 5 bar a safety system kicks in and applies the train brakes as any less than that pressure the train brakes will not work effectively..... so not as daft as it sounds now is it😮

    • @onlinefriend3889
      @onlinefriend3889 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@grahamallen1970 But why would you link the toilet air reservoir into the same one for the brakes, given this video says that a loss in pressure affects the brake supply? Surely it could've been designed to work separately??

    • @grahamallen1970
      @grahamallen1970 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@onlinefriend3889 all air systems on uk stock runs of the same air compressor that supplies the brakes...none return valves would seem to be a good idea but have been troublesome in past and caused brake failures....
      When you have lemons you make lemonade...that's how uk trains work...
      Loss of air supply also affects warning horn...= extremely slow running at caution as unable to give warning to lineside workers...no windscreen wipers on some units ...
      No air to drivers seat...the list goes on

  • @crazypilot7577
    @crazypilot7577 8 ปีที่แล้ว +400

    "Dispatch, my train has stopped working." "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"

    • @craigybus1
      @craigybus1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      'Dispatch, the train is on fire'. 'Switch it off for 30 seconds and isolate it'

    • @CurvedGD
      @CurvedGD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Have you isolated the passengers

    • @adamstrainvideos
      @adamstrainvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Now, you'll be going nowhere

    • @cbawitlife
      @cbawitlife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@adamstrainvideos yes, you'll definitely be going nowhere, Adam tireman, and you know whos to blame: your brother Paul

    • @NaenaeGaming
      @NaenaeGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@CurvedGD No, Paul flushed them all down the toilet

  • @tilerman
    @tilerman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Bloody handy this video, i have one of these trains in my back yard and now i can finally work out how to fault find on it and get it going.

    • @adamchubb6910
      @adamchubb6910 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How many coaches?

    • @Slaithyte
      @Slaithyte 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@adamchubb6910 he's just got the drivers cab

    • @FarmYard-Trains
      @FarmYard-Trains 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Someone actually ended up with a locomotive in their back garden nearby and I genuinely wonder if a video like this exists on TH-cam to help them

  • @thefatcontroller4094
    @thefatcontroller4094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    1:17 A Railway meme is born

  • @yeahman70
    @yeahman70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    For those wondering, 180102 is the unit that will actually be going nowhere

  • @ScrotusXL
    @ScrotusXL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    This train was designed by committee. “If the engine doesn’t start, turn on the windscreen wipers, walk down the end of the train and look out the window. Burn some incense then go back to the cab and press the fog light button”. Eh?, re-set the toilet heater to make the doors work?!!! Madness.

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Even a Pacer is simpler.

    • @FarmYard-Trains
      @FarmYard-Trains 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Honestly even for a train driver this seems a bit much

  • @MannyAntipov
    @MannyAntipov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    9:49 "You expect the button to light
    _it doesn't"_

  • @brownboybilly
    @brownboybilly 12 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    6:23 Look how happy he is that he was able to release the doors.

  • @ollywelsh1198
    @ollywelsh1198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    No wonder our trains are late or when they break down its a major farce to resolve! I really feel for drivers having to deal with all this. At least with steam you could limp easily for the rest of the journey! :-)

  • @PottersVideos2
    @PottersVideos2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    7:45 Ensure you that you lock the toilet out of use. Having to take the entire carriage out of service due to a toilet being filled with shit and not being able to flush isn't good.

    • @nikerailfanningttm9046
      @nikerailfanningttm9046 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      *SHOULD YOU ATTEMPT TO FLUSH THE TOILET, THE IN-BOWL SHIT WILL BREAK THE BOWL AND THUS CAUSS THE CARRIAGE TO FLOOD WITH SHIT.*

    • @tourmaline07
      @tourmaline07 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just watching this and that was a very curious omission - not mentioning taking the toilet out of service with a disabled pneumatic flush! , would like to think that's obvious

    • @音丨HAT丶土老鼠明睿
      @音丨HAT丶土老鼠明睿 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      总加速师快乐车

    • @音丨HAT丶土老鼠明睿
      @音丨HAT丶土老鼠明睿 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      因为一突开就满脸喷粪啊满脸是粪

    • @FarmYard-Trains
      @FarmYard-Trains 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nikerailfanningttm9046Don't worry the train is already full of it lmao

  • @Gusest2676
    @Gusest2676 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    “And You Will Be Going Nowhere” 1:17

    • @kylemc2005
      @kylemc2005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Biggest meme in first history

    • @trainlover11playzgoodbyetr4
      @trainlover11playzgoodbyetr4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1:18

    • @LHoriginal
      @LHoriginal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@trainlover11playzgoodbyetr4 I think 1:17 is better because if its at 1:18 he says "oing nowhere"

    • @DaveDVideoMaker
      @DaveDVideoMaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That meme is almost 18 years old.

    • @CadanHartleyElliott
      @CadanHartleyElliott 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DaveDVideoMakerStill, at least it isn't as overused to death as the RickRoll is.

  • @operatormook1623
    @operatormook1623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Complexity is the most problematic thing about this its so complicated that some drivers can even forget how to use it

    • @basiltaylor8910
      @basiltaylor8910 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank C----t for MetCamm Class 101,s built in the Jurassic period, simple, noisy smelly, not that fast but they work and get you to your destination. Yes cats&kittens you can fix a 101 with spanners screwdrivers , socket sets and not a f-----g laptop!!!!.

    • @solsburian
      @solsburian 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@basiltaylor8910 The blame for the issues the 180 and the similar Coradia Juniper classes was cost cutting instigated from Alstom's HQ in France. The old Met-Camm plant was able to successfully produce the 1995/56 tube stock, Class 390 and the X3 for Sweden without the same issues.

    • @basiltaylor8910
      @basiltaylor8910 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      F------g bean counters, ruining many a good design,yes because Met-Camm is not run by cretins in grey corporate suits.@@solsburian

    • @basiltaylor8910
      @basiltaylor8910 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So typical of companies run by corporate bean counters, you have to issue each a Ladybird Book with pictures to realise what a real train looks like. @@solsburian Good old Met Camm a company run by railway engineers, not bean counters. Alstom should venture into making sex toys for Love Honey and leave train building to the experts Met-Camm.

  • @northstar1950
    @northstar1950 10 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Some of the main problems with these units are:
    1 Digital Ash Tray Sensor Malfunctions.
    2 Digital toilet (Digibog) will not swap to manual override when passing through tunnels at 250 mph
    and once they have overcome the problems with horn tuning, it should be B flat rather than C sharp, they should turn out to be reliable units.

    • @XCHSTTrent
      @XCHSTTrent 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They can't do 250MPH.. There top speed is 125MPH. I don't think you quite know what you're talking about.

    • @northstar1950
      @northstar1950 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Oh I do matey, I do :)

    • @ishmaelthesaudi1573
      @ishmaelthesaudi1573 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      northstar1950 They can't do 250MPH so what you said was completely irrelevant.

    • @railwork2643
      @railwork2643 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Trent Jones 125mph is the max running speed but on a test track who knows jow
      fast they go

    • @XCHSTTrent
      @XCHSTTrent 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think they would be able to achieve 140mph because of the general trend of where they operate.

  • @trainz10
    @trainz10 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    ..."-And you'll be going nowhere!".

  • @theweatherstudio9101
    @theweatherstudio9101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the style of information videos from the 90’s/early 2000’s.

  • @Marcho978
    @Marcho978 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you! Very cool! I was just trying to figure out how to drive my Adelante from the local dealer!

  • @OnlyJoes
    @OnlyJoes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Absolutely fantastic engineering to put the toilet heater on the same MCB as the compressor for something equally unimportant like the brakes

  • @dglcomputers1498
    @dglcomputers1498 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Faults and Failures, yes it's someone's fault that the 180's were ordered now being know that they are a failure!
    Supposedly the ex-HT units were offered to GWR as part of the latest Direct Award, took them a while to stop laughing before saying no!

    • @isaactimmins8959
      @isaactimmins8959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      poor nieve East Midlands railway I hope the fire services on route were suitabley warned, although considering it took several hours to rescue people from the HST crash I think I'll wait for a 222,

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Whow

  • @ShaferProductions
    @ShaferProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The Class 180 is a complex state-of-the-art high speed train.
    Those drivers who already been trained to operate these new trains have found them to be efficient and competent.
    However, there have been problems, and some failures. Sometimes due to a lack of total familiarity, other times to unexpected technical issues.
    In this short briefing programme, we’ll look at some of the common faults, and how to rectify them. And in some cases, how to prevent them happening.
    *Mobilisation*
    Problems can often begin if you don’t carry out the mobilisation procedure correctly, so let’s start by going through that routine and looking at some of the pitfalls.
    As you all know, you start the mobilisation procedure from the back cab.
    If the train is electrically dead, you use the green emergency egress handle to enter this cab. After you pull the handle, and before you slide the door back, reset the handle with your t-key.
    If you forget to do this, your interlock circuit won’t be made, *_and you’ll be going nowhere._*
    Once in the cab, get into the habit of making an anti-clockwise check starting behind the right-hand seat.
    Press the auxiliary *set* button.
    Now over to the right-hand side wall and check all the key isolation switches are in the vertical position. Also, the emergency brake button.
    Check the safety systems panel. The top three indicators should be lit.
    *These will only be lit if the engines have been shut down for less than 20 minutes.*
    Now move across to the driver position on the left side.
    Check that the combined power/brake controller is in the *Full Service* position.
    And that the adjacent emergency brake button is in the *Normal* set position.
    Check that all MCBs on the back wall panel are set.
    Now put your key in, and select the *Neutral* position on the FNR switch.
    Reset the AWS, and press the *Engine Start* button for five seconds.
    Don’t forget that you must leave at least 30 seconds between setting the auxiliaries and starting the engines.
    Glance over to the safety systems panel. All four indicators should now be lit. However, this may take up to 90 seconds.
    If the bottom one is still out, check the *Uncouple* button on the driving desk. If it’s lit, it means that someone has pressed the couple button accidentally, and the unit thinks it’s coupled to another. Press the *Uncouple* button for ten seconds. It should go out, and the bottom indicator on the safety systems panel should light.
    If it doesn’t, check that the passenger alarm has not been activated.
    Now, there’s a little trap for the unwary here.
    Sometimes the catering crew will use an external green emergency egress handle to gain access to the train, and forget to reset it, so, when you walk to the other end, check all the green handles.
    If necessary, you can now turn the SDO switch, and release the train doors on the platform side.
    Now turn the FNR switch to *Off*, remove your key, and go to the cab at the other end.
    While you walk in to the other end, you might hear that one of the engines isn’t running. If time is available trying to restart it by pressing the local engine start button in the 3901 cupboard. It’s next to the *A2* door.
    Don’t forget to press the all engines start when you get back to the driving cab. If you don’t, the engine you restarted will just idle.
    Once in the front cab, start by checking exactly the same things as you did in the back cab.
    Now put your key in, and move the FNR switch to *Neutral* at the same time as pressing the ATP *On* button. Reset the AWS, then do your ATP setup, your radio setup, and log on to the TMS.
    *Engine trip in 3901 cupboard*
    You may need to shut an engine down locally at the 3901 cupboard.
    Don’t use the local engine trip button. It can cause cross-feed problems. Operate the engine isolating switch here instead.
    If the engine shuts down due to a cooler group fault, this LED will light. You can try resetting by pressing the hydraulic reset button, then the local engine start.
    Again, don’t forget to press the all engine start when you get back to the driving cab. If you don’t, the engine you restarted will just idle.
    *Over-speed indicator*
    If the door release buttons don’t light up when you press them, check that you’ve turned the SDO to the appropriate position.
    If they still don’t light, check the overspeed indicator. If this is lit, press the auxiliary *Set* button behind you. This should reset the overspeed, and enable you to get a door release.
    *Compressor Fault*
    If you can’t maintain proper main reservoir air pressure, go to the *C* car, and check compressor control MCB in the 3901 cupboard, and the main compressor supply MCB in the 4901 cupboard. That’s the one by the *B2* door.
    If this is okay, check the residual current device MCB. It’s down at the bottom. Try resetting it.
    If it trips again, try tripping all non-essential MCBs in the cupboard. That’s the toilet heater MCB, the auxiliary transformer MCB, and the air conditioning MCB. Then try resetting the residual current device MCB again. It should stay in this time.
    Now repeat this procedure in the *E* car.
    *Toilet air leak*
    The toilets aboard the Class 180 have an air-operated flush, like those on passenger aircraft.
    A burst or similar defect in any toilet can result in a loss of main reservoir air pressure. In this case, it will be necessary to locate the toilet in question, and isolate the toilet air supply by closing the red isolation cock in the cupboard behind the WC pedestal.
    *’Call for aid’ fault*
    If a call for aid alarm won’t reset, go to the affected coach. Open the 3901 cupboard and trip and reset the COMMS-PASS alarm MCB. This should fix the problem.
    This is a software issue currently under investigation.
    *HVAC fault*
    If the train manager reports complaints from passengers that the heating is excessive in any one coach, the problem could be a jammed thermostat.
    Place a hand over bodyside heaters, and see if heat is coming from these.
    If there is, go to the centre of the coach and locate the small cupboard behind the seatbacks.
    Inside is a green isolation cock. Shut this off, but be careful, it gets very hot.
    The cab vehicles have only one green cock. The other is a thermostatic type, similar to the ones that you might see at home in a radiator. Do not isolate this one, or any other coloured cocks in this area.
    *Earth Leakage fault*
    If an *Earth Leakage* MCB is tripped, and you couple to another unit, the fault will be transferred to that unit. If it trips when you couple to another unit, you can be sure that the fault was on that unit, and has now been transferred to yours.
    This type of fault can be quite elusive, so try and help the engineers by noting when the earth leakage trips. In other words, what equipment has been activated, or what were you doing when the MCB tripped?
    If you can report this accurately, it will be a great help to the staff back at the depot.
    *The Comms. Panel*
    Here’s a little misunderstanding that’s caught drivers out. When you press the *Talk Back* button on the communications panel, you expect the button to light. It doesn’t.
    It’s not a fault. It isn’t designed to light up.
    *Clearing faults on TMS Display*
    There has been some confusion over the clearing of faults on the TMS after initial bootup.
    Remember, that each fault has to be cleared separately, one by one. Do this by pressing the *F1* key to acknowledge each fault. Then once all faults have been acknowledged, return to the current fault list, and see which faults are still on the system.
    *Activation of the Fire Alarm System*
    If smoke or steam is seen or reported as coming from under one of the coaches, and the fire system is activated, it’s important to stay calm and not to overreact. Don’t evacuate the passengers unnecessarily, especially in an unsafe location.
    Remember that the system design prevents fire spreading from the underside to the passenger compartments for 30 minutes.
    You should check whether it’s smoke or steam. It may simply be an engine fault that has caused the automatic firefighting equipment to be activated.
    If it is, it’s steam you can see as the foam boils away on the hot engine. It has a smell like washing up liquid.
    If an engine is shut down or it’s cold, the engine preheater will start up in order to keep the heaters warm in the passenger compartment. On starting, the preheater will often cause a puff of smoke to emerge from the vent pipe near the rail.
    This has caused some alarm to train crews, particularly when the unit is standing at a platform.
    However, it’s quite normal, and will soon disperse. It poses no fire risk whatever.
    *Conclusion*
    The faults and issues we’ve looked at in this programme are mainly the small problems that have cropped up unexpectedly.
    Many faults can be resolved by simply switching off then on again, just like at home when your computer plays up.
    Always make sure all doors are closed. On powerup, a two-minute brake system test fools the door into thinking that the train is moving, so be patient.
    Finally, if you experience a fault, enter as much detail as you can in the unit repair book. For example, if the Public Information System drops out, what code did you enter?
    What we’ve covered isn’t exhaustive, and of course all known failure situations are covered in the Class 180 driver manual, or published traction bulletins.
    If you have any comments on the content of this programme, have a word with your standard manager.
    *Produced for*
    *First Great Western*
    *by Spa Films*
    *©️MMIII*

    • @rog1957
      @rog1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      wow its like an airbus to start up

    • @theweatherstudio9101
      @theweatherstudio9101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@rog1957 I know so complicated just use a pacer instead LOL.

    • @tadetayo61
      @tadetayo61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I remember you!

    • @basiltaylor8910
      @basiltaylor8910 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Er yes , did you ask said drivers how many Ketamine or Benzo tablets they had for breakfast.

    • @basiltaylor8910
      @basiltaylor8910 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For C----t sake I want the damn train to start and run!! is that too much to ask!!,am not Brains from Thunderbirds. Old Met Camm 101,s were easy press the starter warm up the 680,s check fuel and oil levels , coolant and brake pressure she,s ready to run.

  • @bakedbeanishdragon
    @bakedbeanishdragon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    0:20 "...efficient and competent. However, they are squeaky."

    • @magicfurballz
      @magicfurballz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah why do new trains have very squeaky wheels like the pacer

    • @FarmYard-Trains
      @FarmYard-Trains 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I genuinely thought that was a horror movie suspense effect

  • @trainsgb
    @trainsgb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    1:17 "you'll be going nowhere!"

    • @theweatherstudio9101
      @theweatherstudio9101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At 8:35 he started talking about cocks. Couldn’t help but giggle slightly. 🤭

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theweatherstudio9101 Class 442, famous for its isolating cocks

  • @PottersVideos2
    @PottersVideos2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    4:55 I do hope that isn't the default passcode

  • @mikecartlidge5355
    @mikecartlidge5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For many year First Hull Trains ran a small fleet of 180's, during this time I have had many Hull To London Kings Cross trips were passengers have had to travel to Doncaster via Northern Rail and change to another service provider to reach London due to 180's failing for one reason or another. As a passenger I am glad to see the back of the 1980's, I believe Grand First Central now have them.......good luck.

  • @ec8451
    @ec8451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I feel like this guy has become a meme

  • @wewillrockyou1986
    @wewillrockyou1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    1:28 look at the rust around the door!

  • @EnterStationNameHere
    @EnterStationNameHere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    im used to watching YTPs of this to the point where this is weird

  • @stained36
    @stained36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    1:18 yes its a masterpiece

  • @SprinterPlayz
    @SprinterPlayz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “If the TMS says that the train’s going to Leeds, turn it off and on again. We don’t go there. We aren’t called First North Eastern.”

  • @TheThecyclist
    @TheThecyclist 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "hello IT have you tried turning it off and on again?"

  • @liamw-89
    @liamw-89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    How to rectify any fault with Adelante: replace them with Class 800s :D

    • @KaiDiesAgain
      @KaiDiesAgain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      EW CLASS 800s

    • @tp175
      @tp175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or the 175's

    • @KaiDiesAgain
      @KaiDiesAgain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tp175 thatsa downgrade

    • @imtiazrahman1977
      @imtiazrahman1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're already colonising most of the network ;-;

    • @oliverbrelsford5472
      @oliverbrelsford5472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KaiDiesAgain have you seen their acceleration? They are amazing, futuristic trains.

  • @hesterclapp9717
    @hesterclapp9717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The earth leakage fault is kind of like an STI

  • @MrWhite-pn7ui
    @MrWhite-pn7ui 9 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    11:48 "It poses no fire risk. Whatever..."

    • @alexsbikesandmotors
      @alexsbikesandmotors 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      should be whatsoever

    • @wendytrueman4478
      @wendytrueman4478 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mr. White b.hfmn

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it's probably just a more obscure way of saying it

    • @splatinumm
      @splatinumm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      funny thing is

    • @splatinumm
      @splatinumm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hull Trains adelente had a fire...

  • @mikaelhemlingberg3695
    @mikaelhemlingberg3695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    1:17 you’ll be going nowhere

  • @eastlancsmyllenniumlowland6153
    @eastlancsmyllenniumlowland6153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    1:17 YOU'LL BE GOING NOWHERE LOL

  • @Samuel-dd7fi
    @Samuel-dd7fi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Damn dat music

  • @brunoignaciogi
    @brunoignaciogi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    0:10 oh REALLY, state of the art?
    the title says "Faults And Failures" so, it isn't any state of any art
    7:10 so if i flush the toilet, i make the train break!

    • @tread0carefully
      @tread0carefully 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you have a main res leak, you will struggle to charge the braking system.

    • @AkomishTiddies
      @AkomishTiddies 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      At least, you're not throwing a crowbar into the toilet. There is a more or less funny belief that if you do it while riding an old train where waste is dropped directly on the tracks, it will derail.

    • @gwrdriver1660
      @gwrdriver1660 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These videos are training videos, they show us all possible faults, you don't see all of these faults all the time. I drove these for several years before they got moved to Hull Trains, I didn't get many problems, I've had more failures and problems on the Hitachi 800s in the short time we've had them than I ever had with 180s. I call 800s 180 GLS.

    • @lekoman
      @lekoman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      SDB It boggles the mind that the toilets would be on the same air system as the brakes.

    • @buksi6342
      @buksi6342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, the 180 is a state of the art washing up liquid, so you can’t expect that much from it.

  • @CosgroveNotts
    @CosgroveNotts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never had this trouble with peddle and push carriages on the Leeds to Hudders line. Less walking backwards and forwards too lol

  • @darrencafferty
    @darrencafferty 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Class 180 Faults and Failures, how long have you got :) Nice Vid

  • @toby070
    @toby070 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You know, if I decided to travel by rail and discover that my train is this class of engine, I would now say "Scrap it! I'm takin' the cab".

    • @FarmYard-Trains
      @FarmYard-Trains 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd genuinely rather walk

  • @darylyatestransportblogs
    @darylyatestransportblogs 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just an over complicated design by Alstom as the ATW 175s that are like the 180s also had lots of problems when they were new although they seem pretty reliable now im not sure if the 180s are any better now but its a shame they were problematic as I feel that they are one of the best DMUs out there as they are roomy and very comfy

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      seems to depend on the leaseholder. FirstGroup seem to insist on running these trains (Classes 180 ad 175) "as designed" (First Great Western 2012 engine faults, and Hull Trains 2018 fires) whereas Arriva UK Trains (Grand Central and previously Arriva Trains Wales) seem to modify them / disable certain non-critical unreliable features (such as the retarders, braking performance still meets the legal standard with them disabled)

  • @edjhunmangubat7587
    @edjhunmangubat7587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:17 “You’ll be going nowhere”

  • @davidhoughton2073
    @davidhoughton2073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    WHy is it called a "3901 cupboard" rather than say "car maintenance panel" or something? It's almost like the manufacturer wants it to be complicated.

    • @ericssmith2014
      @ericssmith2014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I certainly hope they gave the poor drivers a map. It's all an amazing mixture of obscure tricks (like knowing which sets of numbered circuit breakers are "non-essential") and band-aid solutions (like the button with the red decal marked DO NOT USE). "Well, for pity's sake, Gareth, you've only been resetting the main auxiliary in 3109 instead of the auxiliary main in 3901! No wonder the reading lights don't work."

    • @lukedavis436
      @lukedavis436 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd compare the class 180 to a car
      They're basically the rail version of a Range Rover P38

    • @Slaithyte
      @Slaithyte 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂 amazing ​@@lukedavis436

  • @hesterclapp9717
    @hesterclapp9717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I seem to remember the coaches are numbered F to B, F being the front and B the back

  • @DaveDVideoMaker
    @DaveDVideoMaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    8:36 Inside is a green isolation coq. Shut this off. But be careful, it gets very hot. The cab vehicles have only one green coq; the other is a thermostatic type, similar to the ones that you might see at home on a radiator. Do not isolate this one, or any other coloured cox in this area.

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are more cox in a 442 than on the 180.

    • @DaveDVideoMaker
      @DaveDVideoMaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are 69 of them shown in the 1988 training video.
      In this faults and failures video, there were only 4 shown.

  • @gdwizzie848
    @gdwizzie848 11 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Why do the drivers not use checklists like pilots?

  • @timosha21
    @timosha21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Choo choo! I'm a train and I approve this video! 🚂

  • @milkandduckrailway323
    @milkandduckrailway323 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Where is the GWR IEP Faults and Failiures?

    • @ben.taylor
      @ben.taylor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You'd REALLY be going nowhere on that one...

    • @milkandduckrailway323
      @milkandduckrailway323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      wasnt there that case with the sea wall spray dawlish

    • @RF_765
      @RF_765 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not made yet

  • @jamesheath4845
    @jamesheath4845 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Class 180 is the Chrysler PT Cruiser of trains.

  • @inkyscrolls5193
    @inkyscrolls5193 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    And I thought prepping a kettle (steam loco to the uninitiated) was complicated!

  • @c151b
    @c151b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You'll be going nowhere. 🚫 1:17

  • @grange247
    @grange247 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I believe he did miss the Frigg check after switching the overload cock switch to purple . School boy error I suppose. Very common on these units.

  • @stephand4017
    @stephand4017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    4:50
    WHY is the Train Management Systen code 12345???

  • @Great_WesternTVFan
    @Great_WesternTVFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember watching this videos as a kid. The memories

  • @win7sony
    @win7sony 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    His name is Paul Tyreman. I am not sure of his position at first but he used to work for NSE

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He used to go to nowhere

  • @navymikeh
    @navymikeh 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    conclusion....too many faults

  • @ACTractionLTD
    @ACTractionLTD  12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Proberly is, but like i said, all rolling stock is plagued with some kind of fault or failure

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The 50% of my failure experiences are in a Class 180

  • @DaveDVideoMaker
    @DaveDVideoMaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:29 and 4:41 Reset the AWS - Paul Tyreman.

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1:17

    • @DaveDVideoMaker
      @DaveDVideoMaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is not the AWS part.

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DaveDVideoMaker I'm here for this

    • @DaveDVideoMaker
      @DaveDVideoMaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know you’re so obsessed with this meme.

    • @DaveDVideoMaker
      @DaveDVideoMaker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @JacksTrains. Jebiga…

  • @antoy384
    @antoy384 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sometimes I’m worried this is on youtube. Like, their guidebook is so messy that putting the training on youtube is easier. « If you have an FNR problem, log on youtube.com and ... »

  • @danieltulip2982
    @danieltulip2982 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No fault can be made worse by hitting it repeatedly with a large hammer.

  • @DavidMurphy-g8x
    @DavidMurphy-g8x 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:17 YOUUL BEE GOING NOWARE!

  • @ShockwaveTheLogical
    @ShockwaveTheLogical ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:27 Oh that brought back memories of Train Sim 🙂

  • @Transportman211
    @Transportman211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Coronavirus: YoU bE GoINg NoWhErE

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is what happens if you drink 180 Corona beer bottles

    • @Transportman211
      @Transportman211 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LAMO 🤣🤣

  • @stephendines1936
    @stephendines1936 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Train Manager? They are guards.

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      then there's "conductor"

    • @onlinefriend3889
      @onlinefriend3889 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@RWL2012And what used to be passengers, are now 'customers'.

  • @randomguy8056
    @randomguy8056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if the Residual Current Device is the cause of the Compressor fault and its a hot summer? are all the passengers gonna be screwed with no A/C?

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes,but people aren't going nowhere

  • @TheBrickGuy7939
    @TheBrickGuy7939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A prime example of looks aren't everything.

  • @johnniebj
    @johnniebj 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Now First Hull Trains has some of these units. Their reliability record is terrible.

  • @palexandersquires
    @palexandersquires 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is so much to do before driveing these trains can`t you fit an auto diagnosis computer that checks the trains automaticly for faults .

  • @jonc4686
    @jonc4686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does the driver then get a chance to drive the train? What time does he sign in before departure? How many unit repair books do they have? What the **** is a Standards Manager these days? Honestly, modern railways.

  • @anthonyxuereb792
    @anthonyxuereb792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It appears that there is a lot to know to make you competent and if you aren't up to the task it's going to cause a lot of delays.

  • @oliverstemp9132
    @oliverstemp9132 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why is there a button that you can’t press 😂. It sounds like these trains were designed just to wind up the crews 😂

  • @mroscar323_6
    @mroscar323_6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    it feels weird watching this after watching the ytp

    • @radon1221
      @radon1221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's a spiritual experience 😂

  • @mudchute4dlr
    @mudchute4dlr 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    dont mind me, just coming back every few months to hear 'youll be going nowhere'

  • @Nolongerinuse133
    @Nolongerinuse133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:17 the moment weve come here for

  • @droge192
    @droge192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    David Camerson's gone up in the world.

  • @lrjtherailwayguy
    @lrjtherailwayguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Reset the AWS" don't they like already know what to do when the AWS comes on

  • @mudchute4dlr
    @mudchute4dlr 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    1:14 if you forget to do this, your interlock circuit wont be made, and _you'll be going nowhere_

  • @Jamieson1872
    @Jamieson1872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:53 A bit of attitude there.

  • @alijanlondon
    @alijanlondon 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the main fault is that it was built in the first place (no pun intended)

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because the Class 180 is a failure

  • @johnwilkes5044
    @johnwilkes5044 ปีที่แล้ว

    As long as there's a smell of washing up liquid, I'm good.
    It's the impending sense of the rolling pin that disturbs me...

  • @CoffieVerkeert
    @CoffieVerkeert 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why not??
    Not all customers are just non-technical consumers :)

  • @KMdonatestuntguy
    @KMdonatestuntguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome aboard this first great western railway service to london padding we will be calling at (*engine turns off and everything is out of power*)

  • @jackraine8736
    @jackraine8736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh all the memes I could make out of this video

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Class 180 is a CoC
      Front cab
      You'll be going nowhere
      No ideas lol

  • @Class43_HST
    @Class43_HST ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:14 The infamous part we all know and love

  • @ACTractionLTD
    @ACTractionLTD  12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nah not really, faults and failures happen on most rolling stock

  • @ejcmoorhouse
    @ejcmoorhouse 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    isn't the 180 one of those modern "locomotives have no place on the railway anymore" trains.

  • @chefblanc
    @chefblanc 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wouldnt it be better just to have a on/off switch and a throttle and be done with it..

  • @FarmYardGaming
    @FarmYardGaming 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    8:03 Bruh moment

  • @felenov
    @felenov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:52 I REALLY hope this is NOT the password in use.

    • @Danse_Macabre_125
      @Danse_Macabre_125 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like to think it is, just to make drivers' lives easier

  • @GB-lg2cz
    @GB-lg2cz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    if all fails get a hammer and a large gin and tonic

    • @marcuspotter5590
      @marcuspotter5590 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I see what you did there! You'd may as well get hammered and sickled because in Soviet Russia train drive YOU!!

  • @gabrielcolon8900
    @gabrielcolon8900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to know the transition music they used…

  • @Uftonwood2
    @Uftonwood2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A check list would be helpful.

  • @v1rotate349
    @v1rotate349 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why have videos about on-the-go train repair started appearing in my recommendations?

  • @karlr42
    @karlr42 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    he's just an actor apparently, he's in a few other videos on TH-cam for Connex and NSE.

  • @yui4779
    @yui4779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys if you drive on grand Central tell me if this is helpful

  • @rog1957
    @rog1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is total sensory overload - do the drivers has a SOP sheet to follow all of these steps plus a fault finder card? - surely most of this cannot be done from Memory>???

  • @TheArkamedBat
    @TheArkamedBat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:38 Class 442?

  • @ACTractionLTD
    @ACTractionLTD  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    rail net channel is the best place to look

  • @letsgamingyt1
    @letsgamingyt1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aah is this the ’youll be going nowhere’ video

  • @stevie156478
    @stevie156478 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video makes the units seem overly complicated!

  • @lovinlifeboy
    @lovinlifeboy 11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    i think that the 125's are better than them

    • @stevohein2515
      @stevohein2515 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Their acceleration is not great though. These can reach 125mph in 4.5 minutes, the 43's take 10.

    • @michaelhealey9538
      @michaelhealey9538 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Personally I prefer 37s & 47s :)

    • @ben.taylor
      @ben.taylor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't, it's that they are...

    • @thefatcontroller4094
      @thefatcontroller4094 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I prefer Class 165s

    • @rabd9881
      @rabd9881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thefatcontroller4094 networker turbos have hideously slow acceleration. A cart on wheels can get to speed faster