ASUS ProArt Pen Display Review
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Brad! I have spent literal hours watching and rewatching your videos trying to figure out what type of drawing platform I wanted to go with. Bounced from tablet to laptop back to tablet and then struggled to decide on which tablet. I settled on the Galaxy S9 Ultra and absolutely love it. I'm brand new to the space and found your technical as well as personal experience breakdowns to be just what I needed to get a lay of the land. I purchased all of your non Ipad courses and can't wait to get started. Thank you so much for all your help!
One thing to note. I have the Zenbook Duo, which has kind of a similar idea second screen above the keyboard. I bought it to edit photos on the road and, so far, the experience has been underwhelming. It uses the same "Creator Hub" software that it looks like this display is using to edit the control panel. I thought I could map all of the functions of Lightroom to it, have them on the second screen, and voila. But it's missing options for a lot of newer Lightroom features. And when I say newer, I'm still talking about things that were released 6+ months ago. For a device that is designed for and specifically targeted at creative professionals, including photographers, it's pretty unacceptable (to me) that they wouldn't keep the software up to date to support all of the features of all of the Adobe CS apps. It feels like an abandoned piece of software. I'd chalk it up to early adopter problems, but the Duo line has been out for a few years. This is kind of a recurring problem with Asus products. Great ideas, but quality control, long term support, etc, is always hit and miss.
A display that is almost twice as expensive than large tablets like S9 FE+.... so not for me. But still good for people to have options.
Exactly what I was thinking
Still under half the cintiq 17 lol
hey can you link your s9 fe+ to a windows pc like via usb and use it as a drawing tablet ?
@@mrwoodcat Yes. There are many apps to do it. Never tried it myself though.
You’re not comparing apples with apples.
I literally just bought their 2.5k res monitor as my secondary display! Being said, I am very intrigued by this drawing tablet. 👀
i'm super interested in seeing how they update this, but i won't lie - touch functionality is brilliant. Since I work from home, having a portable device like an android/apple tablet for creating is less of a "thing", so i'd be very interested in checking out. Great video as always Brad - thanks!
Definitely looks interesting, let's wait a few generations to get a more rounded /usable pen display. I have a Proart monitor and it's really fantastic so I'm familiar with some of the software and settings etc. I'll definitely keep my eyes on these in the future. Thanks Brad
Problem is, it's ASUS we're talking about. If this first gen doesn't work, they're not gonna bother build a 2nd one.
I talk by experience, In 2011 (if I recall well) they've already tried to make a tablet PC that was basically the first Graphic tablet PC ever, yeeaars before Wacom and its Companion and Studio pro. It was everything an illustrator/animator would love to use. But as everytime is the case, for a first gen product, their price point was too high, nobody bought it, and I was waiting for years that they'd come up with a cheaper better version that just never came !
It was only in 2018, when HP came up with its fantastic HP Zbook X2 (also now a discontinued & never expanded upon tech), that I finally got the graphic tablet-PC-workstation of my dreams, in which I'm perfectly satisfied with, if only it was just a tad bit bigger.
@@jjstarrprod 2011 is quite a long time ago, maybe we can atleast hope for the new one. Also ZenScreen is going nuts, they're probably the only one make portable monitor that are premium
@@jjstarrprodthey've been taking semi good care of their proart lineup, but by now some displays are showing their age. It's a shame because they were really good ""affordable" monitors for creatives but they're getting out-paced by OLED's. Unless ASUS bother to update their Mini-LED local dimming displays, they're going to get left in the dust. They have a 2000 dollar 1200 nit peak brightness monitor with 1,100 or so local dimming zones. The problem is you now have OLED's coming out with very good color preformance, better contrast, and with 360hz on top of that. Oh and they're 900 bucks or less. The ProArt Display I'm comparing them to only had 60hz. I really wish that ASUS would come up with some competition but I very much doubt it sadly.
We are probably getting a newer model soon, showcased during Computex June 3. Unless it is a Surface like 2in1, it's hard to tell for sure from the teaser. But a Surface like Windows tablet focused on artists and creatives would be REALLY neat in my books!
Hey Brad! Whenever I see a new video I go to your website to see where you placed this new Pen Display in the rankings.
It's a great way to know how much better or worse this PenDisplay/tablet is compared to its competitors in the same category.
Maybe a grading system would help a lot too
Good call. I'm bad about adding things to my site. I need to get on that.
@@thebradcolbow It will be great to see the Ranking updated with the latest Pen Displays you reviewed.
Or perhaps a Note System on the videos themselves could help too.
So anyone who is undecided can access the videos of the Pen Displays they are interested in and compare notes.
It is a more objective metric to know which is better in certain aspects or in its entirety.
Anyway, I love your channel and website. Cheers!
It is my understanding is the Asus ProArt Pen Display cannot be used as an extended display as with Wacom or Huion. A 100% deal breaker for me. One of the very annoying parts of reviews for pen tablets for me is the reviewer not showing the back and forth screens with the main laptop and the pen tablet. I am having extended issues with my 13 Inch 2.5k Huion where it works great in duplicate view but can't run a photo program on the laptop along with a paint program on the Huion (true extend view).
The issue is 100% on the laptop and not on any tablet/monitor you connect to it
Can you do a review of the Asus ROG Flow Z13? It’s a 2in1 gaming laptop but if it can run high end games, it can probably run high end art programs. I’m hoping it can fill the niche that the Mobile Studio Pro tried to fill as a fully functioning mobile computer for drawing.
ProArt in tablets is good news, more stuff to come, surely. In regular monitors I've seen reviews and some models have issues which you don't get on the best monitors: Eizo, or in high end Benqs, but still it's_usually_ affordable Adobe RGB coverage (cheapest proArt models are only sRGB). That digital control panel, and the physical wheel do rock. My biggest con with it is being only 100% sRGB not at least sth like 95% Adobe RGB. So, no wide range, some colors won't show up (and that can be painful also in some projects for print, even, despite the reduced range _usually_ required by print). That's fine in a 300 bucks 16" inches tablet (tho huion and xp have their latest 16" tablets with wider color space) but in a 900 bucks one, hmmmm...not even P3 (not that that's much better than sRGB, but would be richer color)....That said, the factory calibrated for Delta E
My rule of thumb is to not purchase the 1st gen of most any product (electronics & vehicles mostly).
I LOVE Asus's ProArt monitors, I have 2. Seeing them make a display tab is a great step in the right direction & like you said Brad, a good starting point.
I'll be watching closely for their next gen (if they make another, I hope they do!).
I noticed in your vid what looked like artifacts from your palm while drawing. Is the palm rejection poor on the screen?
Also, maybe using Asus ProArt 32:9 display could be useful for the on-screen shortcut panel.
Regular cintiqs are so expensive this is actually a decent deal if you really want that wacom pen, I just got an old Dell canvas for cheap and this kinda reminds me of how that guy was pretty much a dell branded cintiq but for way cheaper
wonder if this would be perfect with the rog ally...
probably not, but it'd be nice for playing Street Fighter with friends and drawing the next day.
Same, I'm also an artist and rog ally user
Seems ok, but for the price, maybe it'd be better to buy a samsung ultra tab usually cam get for 1k
My thoughts exactly.
This is 16 inches, not 14, tho (I like real state for drawing... still wouldn't be 22, though). But for the money, yep, 1k gives you a Samsung "portable computer" (versus only a pen display), I have the S7 FE and it's wildly amazing (great sound, btw). And 1k is also enough for a cintiq non pro 22, or a XP-Pen or Huion 24 pen displays, or a desktop computer with a basic GPU or just an APU/iGPU.
@@3polygons it's 1 inch difference not 2, this is 15.6 and Samsung is 14.6
I love watching him constantly try to rotate the canvas in the beginning. Totally something I'd do
I'm so torn between getting this and the huion 24 plus. This being so portable with touch and pre-calibrated color accuracy is outright perfection but I really want that larger screen. I really wish they'd make a 20in version.
Maybe I should consider getting this and that 22in xp pen you made a video about a bit ago
if was me id do the last bt.. i have a huion kamvas 22 pro .. and a kamvas 13 for on the go... having a big screen at home permanently setup for the big drawing stuff is heaven. but having a tablet you can mash in in your laptop bag (carefull or with a cloth over it) is great to for when you wanna work on the couch or in train etc.
@sadev101 I think your right, I found that the 2020 22in huion is sold at 350 dollars, and that'd be the perfect companion for this device. With the two, I'd be right at the price of the huion 24 4k model but with far more flexibility and capability. Very excited for this upgrade now!
IMO, don't... If you don't mind having not too wide color (this Asus is sRGB only, tho), but care a lot about control over the pen, then the Cinitq "non-pro" - the basic cintiq 22 model- is around 1k (directly at Wacom store, first hand), and it's the best (pro pen 2) pen experience. I mean, The Cintiq basic models are all limited to sRGB only. If you mind more about a wider color gamut (so, not missing certain intense greens, magentas, etc), and really satisfying working space, the 24" Huion would be the way to go. I want BOTH aspects, so my only way is an Eizo and an intuos Pro XL or my latest gen Wacom L (but it took me many years to become natural with pen-tablets).
Overall I guess I'd go with the Huion 24 (but the most modern one! initial 24s weren't very good, and Huion tends to sell old models as well) between the options you are considering. I have a cheap Kamvas 22, IPS based, it's a LED, not a QLED like the newest Huion 24. I was scared first for OLED's burn-in effect, but apparently QLED (I initially thought the Q was a spelling error, years ago :D ) has a way to prevent burn-in, and is usually coupled with a 7 to 10 years warranty (maybe in 10 years u'll have to replace it while my XL pen tablet is still working since 2009, but monitors do last less). My cheap Kamvas 22 has *_clearly_* less accuracy for line drawing, inking, etc, tested that very deeply, than my super old Intuos 4 XL, but still is "functional". With all the iterations happened on this latest 24 since my arcane 22... I'd go for it. For portable and 1k bucks, the Galaxy S7,8,9 are very good products, even the cheaper FEs, but for 1k bucks, despite me disliking Apple brand with a passion, I'd go for the iPad Pro 12,9", if it's to have an on-the-go painting solution with solid art software available. That said my S7 FE has been nice and solid for that, with Krita. But the S7 FEs do need some kind of matte filter, I can't stand glossy screens, there are a few good ones on Amazon.
Do not get too impressed with the pre-calibrated terms and all (besides, in tests, ProArt monitors in many serious tests (uniformity issues, etc, tho not noticeable by a lot of people) have not had as great results as an Eizo ColorEdge (imo, nothing does), for example. I'd even get me a Benq *professional* monitor instead of a ProArt, indeed. But they are better than mainstream monitors, or, _much_ older XP-Pen/Huion pen Displays than current ones, though. Anyway, anything hardware calibrated (with a colorimeter) can end up with a "accurate" and good enough color. The factory calibrated stuff and all the validations are nice, and surely fine for people having no idea about how to calibrate a monitor, or not willing to do it, but usually you get the best result by calibrating with a hardware colorimeter, like Calibrite's (I have an old i1 Display Pro). What it mostly means is that this device once calibrated it will surely be pretty accurate BUT *within* sRGB color space only. IMO that is pretty narrow for artwork, these days. Functional and you can still do some pro work so (low end commissions and etc won't _usually_ be an issue with sRGB only devices) , but IMO is not ideal. Probably many of the cheap brands producing wide color space pen displasy come with a pretty bad factory calibration, unlike the ProArts. But I prefer that and calibrate it myself to have a sane output, if the monitor reaches certain colors (ideally Adobe RGB 100%).
@3polygons I'm actually gonna shift what I just said, looking into it more I now see the 16in wacom pro with touch is only 1,300. Landing it firmly in my price range with better accuracy. I'll probably get this one and later get that new xp pen 22in when I can afford it
@@NightmareFactory830 That's the best decision if you need professional work color range and accuracy, and best pen tech, yet keeping it portable. I just can't stand smaller than 22, but maybe an old, too, tired eyesight, etc (today watched a report of how new generations are getting worse and worse eyesight with so much screen use: ppl, beware). Also for comfy arm or wrist drawing gestures. I had my ergonomic issues with pen displays (back and neck pains) after long sessions.
The Cintiq I referred to were not The One (not to confuse with One By Wacom, which are the cheapest pen tablets, made to compete with cheapo alternatives). But actual Cintiq of 16 and 22 non pro. Costing respectively right now 500$ and 1.300S USD (dunno if due to Cybermonday week).
Wacom Cintiq 16: DTK1660
Wacom Cintiq 22: DTK2260
www.wacom.com/en-us/products/pen-displays/wacom-cintiq
(to me they appear listed as DTK2260K0A and DTK1660K0A , but I believe the KOA part refers to geographical region, not sure about that. It's same models, tho).
About the lack of buttons neither touch ring in these cheaper Cintiqs, they sell one thing that is like a remote which has it all, and not too bad for 100 bucks and just getting that functionality back and full compatibility.
The touch ring and buttons lack so can be fixed, but the actual cons of the non pro are: SRGB only, and indeed, just 96% sRGB, and NO multi-touch in these cheaper cintiqs. As an illustrator I don't really need touch, but I also worked in 3D, video and games, and I know why you prefer it.
For professional work, IMO, go Wacom if you can afford it. Nothing wrong in getting an alternative, I was always promoting the alternatives over Wacom, until faced personal tests with actual devices at home (full time freelancer, it's not a hobby :) ). It's not to say it's too bad to work with alternatives.
Multi touch (10 fingers!), all the buttons and ring in place (not everybody would be able to get used to a remote in the cheap version), and mostly, 98% Adobe RGB, then 4k resolution (although, in 16 inches...I'm weird, but I'm prefer 1080p even at 22", I prefer to see some pixels than tiny menu fonts), Wacom Pro Pen 2, and IPS (I still have some slight fears with QLEDs), 1300$ for pro work, that's a no brainer. And there are many more "pro" details that you end up realizing as you use it.
Now, the main issue there is you need to be sure you are going to be comfy on 16. I had an old UX 12" and it was horrible. Sold it after 8 months. 22 is definitely NOT portable, though. But even the 12 models are a bit clunky to carry around, yet, "possible", like the 16s. I wouldn't use a 16 even if paid to suffer (well... would depend on the payment, haha).
One thing more gathered from a few reviews with deep tests... The basic Cintiqs (and of course the Pros) come with a quite accurate factory calibration. If you are not gonna make any sort of calibration on your own, that's another reason for Cintiq. The Huion and XP, in tests, are a definitely off from factory in color accuracy and some other aspects, but once calibrated with a colorimeter (but I recon Calibrite's colorimeters have gone expensive, late years) by you (if doing it properly) you end up with a quite good output. I tend to like to "nerd" if I get the most of a device so (and bang for the buck).
About the pens, I keep reading in every Wacom page that both the Cintiq and the Cintiq Pro, every model, uses *Wacom Pro Pen 2* tech. So, in that it is the same, but grid, resolution, etc (the actual tablet), might be much better in the pro versions, so, better resulting experience. Again, I was not referring to Wacom One.
About the Asus pen's prob (not really, just the glass is more slippery than what we're used to, to fake paper texture since a bunch of years), yep, if the S-Pen works better, the Lamy AL-star is even better, then than the S-Pen (third party Wacom EMR pen, inexpensive).
(before anyone jumps in, I don't mean that there's anything wrong in getting one of the latest Huion (I have not only "Wacoms", but also 2 Huions and a Galaxy S, have had many brands) or XP-Pen tablets. It depends on requirements and preferences).
I wonder how licensing Wacom's pen tech to produce a direct competitor would play out if Asus manages to make this venture a success & become a notable player in the drawing tablet space.
Knowing Wacom? They would never a allow 3rd party design to be as competitive as their own products in the first place by keeping the best know how to themselves. Just like Microsoft containing their top-of-the-line MPP 3.0 stylus within their Surface product line and only licensing older MPP 2.0 / 1.5 tech to other laptop manufacturers.
This pen is equivalent to the Wacom one? That would only be 4K pressure sensitivity not 8K. So it’s either as lars2894 suggests or they decided the cheaper technology was good enough. I’d be interested to know if a proper Wacom pen worked at full sensitivity or was limited to 4K pressure.
I was waiting for this review
This thing looks lovely and the use of EMR tech is alluring since I have some of those styluses lying around, but it's pricey. I've been having the "I want to draw for fun" bug the past few days, so I think I'm in the market for a pen display now? I think? Not sure as getting something of a decent quality is pretty pricey, especially as I'd want the screen to be good enough to work as a second display even when I'm not using pen features. Considering the XP Pen Pro 16 Gen 2 as that has a similar resolution to my laptop screen, but idk. If anyone happens to read this and has any recommendations for a hobbyist drawer and someone in need of a second display, let me know!
If you don't have a tablet maybe get one. An used tab s8 for tab s7 fe for example. If you don't find your "draw for fun" bug growing then at least the tablet has other uses.
I am using Wacom Cintiq HD 13 since 2013. This is a nice upgrade for me since I have Tab S7 and S22 Ultra. I use Wacom One Pen for both with Elastomer Tip. Now I can use the same pen on all my devices! I've ordered one today and I'm looking forward to it.
I have the same huion tablet that you showed in the video and the asus pro art looks so much more portable than my huion which I struggled with finding a carrying case that it would fit in. Asus has been putting out innovative technology for quite a while but I never expected them to actually produce a drawing tablet which is wild. I don't think a lot of people will get this product because of those first generation issues that you talked about such as the texture of the surface, missing software features and the pen. In the next generation if are able to implement their incredible laptop Pantone OLED screens into a drawing tablet with 120hz and improve their pen to atleast huion or xp pen standards then it would be a killer product.
I appreciate you just putting the price up front
please review the kindle fire max 11, its a tablet made my amazon and it also has a pen that you can buy which i believe is pressure sensitive
i actually have a few proart products (my husband built my pc around the proart mobo) so i was very curious about this thing. if had the pro pen technology instead of the entry level, i'd be very tempted.
He says even just using the s-pen the issues (bit of wobbly line) are gone. The control of my S-Pen on the S7 FE is kind of great. And yet I've been recently surprised with current Wacom EMR based alternatives for the s-pen itself, some being a lot better than the default s-pen for S galaxy tab tablets. I guess one of those - specially the Lamy-AL star, it would be great if Brad would test this tablet with it- with this tablet would rock. Although even having myself the Wacom L Pro current model, haven't yet retired my intuos 4 XL, so I guess I am biased as I am using a pretty old Wacom pen tech, yet being 100% happy with it. My biggest issue with it is it's only supporting sRGB (and the 16 inches).
Is 40% tilt angle convenient to draw? Thanks for the answer 😊
@@62-66 Well I learned first with traditional media (pencils, oils, watercolors, etc). There is no golden rule... There are people holding the pencil or brush in many different ways, and/or using different techniques. You can draw with with the pencil very tilted or almost vertical, none of it is necessarily better or worse, IMO, just use it however works best for you. :)
great video but i was wondering if you could do a "Best Drawing Tablet By Price" video again ?
Using a wacom EMR digitiser instantly puts this in the short list for my consideration. This is a really surprisingly good first outing for Asus' pen tablets. If some of those kinks can be worked out in software even this first gen version could be a great boon.
Does this mean the wacom pro pen 2 is compatible with it?
I love the fact that it have a touchscreen, but the price is a little high for what it is.
Asus was a real powerhouse of tech for decades. It would seem that they are focusing on high end products, value added, where high techiness helps, ie Graphics, Integrated touch sensitive all in ones. These Asus drawing tablets might become the real sweet spot, for fewer bucks than Wacom, still get a good device. For the tooth, maybe just add a textured cover sheet.
Gonna pair this with my rog ally... Not only as an external monitor, but also a replacement for my wacom one..
That price isn't even that bad. Also, the Amazon Prime Kindle Pen is a nice alternative along with the Onyx Boox pen.
You actually got it! I was scared you weren't able to find it
Ok ok hear me out, take this panel and pen and slap it on rog flow line of products (ditch the not so good Microsoft pen protocol that it is equipped at the moment) , and it would make FINALLY a perfect all rounder. if the next rog flow z13 would be with this wacom tech, in tamdem with core i9 14th Gen and rtx 4060 super (or TI or whatever the upcoming refresh of 4000 series gonna be called) that would be a dream work/gaming mashine.
I like how you think!
if i had the money id buy it.. i ended up buying the kamvas 13 a while ago... pretty pleased with it . hooks up to my phone or my laptop and i can power it with a powerbank for 2 hours i know this outperforms it resolutionwise. but 900 is too expensive for me at this point
Interesting first generation but the price was a bit too much. At least for me in Sweden who know that that will translate to at least 12-1300 over here.
I was hoping you would do this one. Im shopping for a new computer / set up, and I have looked at this as a possible match with their studio laptop
No pressure curve is a no go.asus should watch this video and write that down.because if it had it and a better pen,I'd definitely choose asus over other brands(as ive used lots of asus devices.they make solid tech).
Seems like a huge miss to leave out Mac users for this product. Though the market is already getting saturated with pen displays compared to just a couple of years ago that I can’t complain too much if one of them misses Mac support.
Tanks for the PC solidarity. Made me feel nice. May your pet fish be happy and healthy and not die or float sideways.
Any opinions on - ASUS ProArt Pen Display VS Wacom movink 13, considering they are the same price range now?
Have you ever tried putting a piece of felt under the tip? Feels like drawing with a sharpie.
Brad what do you think, the Asus property display or which other would you recommend, best bang for buck, 16inch display for an illustrator. To be used as an extra screen to laptop too… thanks
I love your art style I wish I had a good one myself
As oposed to cintiq pro and xp-pen 16 in, this one has HDR (30 hz). I wonder how good this HDR actually is or it even is worthit, consindering this offering is pricier than the other two.
What is the best way to ask you about reviewing products?
Alogic is all over my advertised recommendations recently, and I was wondering if you are going to be reviewing the "Clarity Pro Touch 27" UHD 4K Monitor with 65W"?
Can you review the Lenovo P12 tablet? Especially compared to Galaxy Tab S9 FE+. Seems almost identical in features and performance, but at near half price.
I need to know if its as color accurate as the proART screens? Is it calman verified? :)
It says it is....
@@3polygons hmm not bad, not bad.. semi-Pro videoediting Can be done on the Asus proART calman verified screens.. pretty exciting to be able to use the screen as an ekstra DCI-P3 accurate screen and a drawing tablet for aftereffects once and a while..
@@baekmedier (It says it only supports sRGB, not DCI-P3, which is wider. Or that's what I did read in their product page).
@@3polygons hmm yeah okay :)
I use an OLED zenbook with touch and stylus support from ASUS, and i think they know what they're doing.
it's about time, i don't understand why more pc manufacturers don't make drawing displays
I have an asus flow x13 and a Wacom mobilestudio pro 16. I would pay any amount of money to have the x13 exactly as it is except with the 4k matte coated Wacom screen with the battery free pen. Someday we'll have something like that right?
I wonder if the quality of the drawing experience on the lastes rog flow models is close to this
Hi Brad. Any possibility to make a review of the new Lenovo Tab P12?
What about using it left hand ?
Can this product be free standing or do I need to plug into a computer or laptop in order to run it? You talk about connectivity, and I'm confused about what that means. I'm looking for a new drawing tablet by ASUS and would like to know if it requires a secondary system. Please answer if anyone knows
Brad you put me in a tight spot hahahahaha, i want the huion 16 or 24, but also love the proart brand, but think i'll go this time with huion, and wait till i need to change for a proart, hope they continue with it
Watching you draw on this, it really looked like you were struggling. There definitely appears to be a wobble, even when you switched pens.... and the touch appeared unresponsive at times, you were trying to rotate the canvas at one point and it didn't move at all, unless you were using a drawing app that just didn't support that ability and you forgot? I didn't recognize that drawing app. I dunno....
Wait... They didnt go for an OLED or QD OLED display? I thought they'd match this to their flagship pro art display and kick some royal butts by having the first OLED drawing tablet
Hi Brad, could you make a review for Huion Kamvas Slate 10? It's a new Android tablet by Huion. ty
i have a question. is zen screen mb16amt just as good to draw on? because i see refurbished zen screen 16 for $399 canadian dollars and i can't find asus proart tablet used. buy new is $500+ dollars
i like the look of zen screen 16 but can't find anyone talking about drawing.
i plan to use the monitor multi purpose not just drawing but mainly drawing and i know...some people tell me to get a dedicated drawing tablet. but can't find one with thin slick bezels
Is it pen only or can you use your fingers?
Cant wait for the review of the brand new android tablet by Huion, kamvas slate 10
Hmm, I been thinking for a while that Wacom need to make their drawing tablet double as an external monitor to increase their usability. Looks like Asus beat them to it by bringing drawing tablet to their own portable external monitor. I am not a pro though, so maybe a 2K screen variation with lower price might be more appealing to me.
Still not available in France sadly from what I can see :(.
Would be better if it was actual wobble, means it's mostly a driver issue. Even Cintiqs have had big issues with wobble and jitter back when their early Win10 drivers were just not properly ironed out, but around mid 2016 wham all gone on my 22HD. Improving the screen too smooth texture really can only be practically fixed with felt nib.
You can get "feel" type pens with felt nibs.... I am still using my 2017 zbook and that came with a wacom compatible pen with felt nibs. It works great on my samsung S8 tablet too (with felt nibs)
Does this mean the wacom pro pen 2 is compatible with it?
how does it compare to the espresso display 13/15
Hi Brad. Would the Surface slim Pen work on this display?
better than wacom one 13 touch ?
The price seems fair until you see it compares to the Samsung Galaxy tab ultra series. You could probably pick up old new stock of the tab s8 ultra for cheaper. Same pen tech with an Android tablet inside. Can also hook up to a pc.
That's a really good point. If you just take out android options this looks really good. Add in all of Samsung's stuff and it looks expensive.
I already use a tab s6 lite with a Wacom one pen and super display mainly for blender sculpting. This is actually a promising upgrade for me, since I am used to the pen single cable convenience. The price is abit high still
can you get the asus vivobook s14 and compare it to the lenovo flex5... the ryzen 7s
Wacom do be selling their EMR tech around 😅
honestly the right way to go for asus if they're serious about entering this space. if they have the engineers and budget for it, they'd spend years developing their own tech as a gamble. (it didn't work so great for microsoft and n-trig)
if they used xp-pen or huion tech (if they even could), they'd be setting themselves up for comparison to second-rate stuff on their high-end line.
It workz.
So wait.. .will Wacom One pen and others like Noris Digital and other EMR pens work with this?
In theory, yep. And Lamy AL-star
Is the new Wacom 17" Pro the same width as the Asus15.6"?
maybe Asus will go back and throw the Wacom tech into the next version of the Zenbook pro duo or the ProArt Studiobook
If it doesn't support Mac, I don't think it supports Linux either, but then wacom works OOTB on Linux so... we'll have check ourselves.
Very stupid of a decision to not support such a basic peripheral though lol
Does it have a tilt control?
Brad You're just Jack Sparrow. You will always find a treasure. Thank you very much. 😊
disappointed it's 60hz at $900 :/ when will anyone besides wacom make a 120hz pen display? I'm pretty sensitive to refresh rate and everything i use has at least 120hz on it, 165hz on my pc monitor. i can tell you its significantly more enjoyable drawing with high refresh rate. especially that 165hz + a usb tablet. there's getting a tab s7 or higher and using superdisplay, but that's not perfect and adds lag, which defeats the point. i would gladly take a hit in resolution at stay at 1080p. 4k at 15.6 inches is really not a must-have. i KNOW asus can make a high refresh rate pen display. (they put a QHD, 165hz screen, in their ROG flow x16 2-in-1, but no wacom EMR so the pen sucks)
I'm just curious... so the S Pen works on any platform?
Any Wacom based platform. Rather than reinvent the wheel Samsung and ASUS licensed the technology from Wacom. Huion an XP pen each developed their own systems. Those guys started out with pens that needed charging.
They should do a 1080p cheaper alternative.
But the connectors are on the side. Why do they all do this? Put the connectors on the top, not where my Tourbox is going to live. Even if you aren't using a peripheral what are you supposed to do with your left hand? Even using the dial you risk leaning on those cable and messing up the connectors over time. Why is it so hard for these companies to put the connectors along the top? Or even have two sets of connectors in case somebody out there wants portrait mode (weirdo).
Please make it 4K
It is 4K, he didn’t talk about the screen specs
Doesn't really seem like a valid alternative to even the higher-end Huion stuff yet. But to be fair, Asus isn't your drawing-specialized, overpriced Wacom. The future has a lot to offer I guess
Lol. That was the first thing I added when i got an iPad. The rough screen protector. 😂 😊 I have an asus that is from 2014. Its still kicking with linux and i ran it with a wacom. It wasnt bad a slight bit laggy ish. But suprisingly fast for what I am was using. That and the size of the acreen felt small for what i wanted to do. lol. Although the computer is only slightly bigger than my ipad. 😂😂.
5:36 : Since when does ARZOPA have Pen-Displays? These things are simply displays, THEY DON'T HAVE PEN SUPPORT.
(Feel free to correct though. Their official Website only lists normal displays)
These displays also cost only up to 1/9. Your comparison feels very straw grasping here.
Also, why does the expensive, "professional" ASUS thing only work on Windows?
No Linux support would be understandable, but no Mac Support either. For that Price !?!?!?
Guess being a professional means "Getting screwed over by tech companies".
Too expensive. 4k is overkill for 16 inch displays imo. 1440p is enough.
nah 4k is worth it. If given the choice between the 2 and the price difference is like what a $100? The clear choice is to go with the higher resolution.
Especially coupled with a higher nit brightness with HDR, it's a no brainer.
CAN YOU USE wacom pro pen 3 with IT?
Nope, only their lower end pens
Excluding Mac devices, for a display, is a douche thing to do. I took one look and thought oh might pair nice with a Mac mini or studio but I guess not
I absolutely hate touch functionality on an art tablet.
All parameters are the same as many other graphic monitors. The control panels are very convenient in my opinion. Is 40% tilt angle convenient for drawing? Save Lisa answer. 😃
It was sounding good until the $900 part - that's a ridiculous price for just a display
As usual another fantastic vid Brad. Have you seen the Alogic touch screen monitors. They're being marketed as cheaper alternatives for the Pro apple displays but also have one which has pen support and are supposed to work with both Mac and PC. Not found anyone reviewing it from the stand point of a designer / illustrator with its pen function. It would great if yu could have look at this for us Brad. - th-cam.com/video/a-vM1UhcIWI/w-d-xo.html
Brad are you capable of using the Pro Pens on these, or is it locked down in that regard?
Nope, the Pro Pens only work on the high end Wacom products.
Well. I'd rather get a surface pro instead.
i welcome anything but wacom, even though asus still use their tech for the pen.
DOA
this would be great at $500
Exactly ... If it was around 500$ . I would have brought it immediately.
But on Amazon it's around 680$ .. but still quite expensive for me ...
@@masterpo1465 way better than the launch price of $900. I’ll keep my eye on it now
So... tips matter? ;)
900$ than just buy a drawing laptop then?
ips display?.....no thanks. ips displays have 0 colour.