Why a Half a Million Artists left Instagram for Cara Last Week
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So wait. An app we can post our art on that doesn't feed it to AI learning machines? An app that doesn't try and monetize us and bleed us dry to share our work with each other? Reminds me of the days you took your notebook to school and showed your drawings to your friends. Ahh the good ole days.
Then how they pay the server cost
"Yet".
@@Dam0nSingh "YET" indeed.
it will eventually- just wait.
…yet
Jumped to Cara immediately after i learn about it. I wish 2 things. That it will be an IG killer for artists. I want to leave instagram permanently with my whole being for years. I haven't done it because it's the most easy way to find my favourite artists. 2 I wish cara keeps it SIMPLE just posts. No "reels" no stories no nothing just posts. A place were you scroll for some inspiration and joy and then go draw. Let's support Cara so we can have our own internet art corner the way we want it .
💯 agree. I never liked Instagram ever since I started in 7 years ago and Cara is SUCH a relief to me. I making art rn to post on there🥰
Hell yeah just make it some money a month. It be great.
@jesterfeathers I had the luck to experience the 1st version of instagram that was very similar to Cara. After a while it started taking the downhill and especially after Meta it became a hellhole. Let us support Cara however we can !!
Same! I’ve been so horrified with Instagram and the contempt with which it regards us for years. Cara here I come (which I’m sure you know means friend in Irish).
@@roisincure 💯 🙌💖💖💖
I soo want Cara to succeed and become popular. At least among artists. Imagine having a platform without reels, shorts, influencers. Only artworks from other artists, and no AI. That's a dream, lets help it come true.
But right there is the biggest issue. If it’s ONLY artists on the platform, it will never be a truly great platform for discovery.
@@ninja_tony That's true. I understand that.
But having platform to post artworks and collect them into portfolio with AI arts filtered out properly is already more than other platforms offer.
I tried to hide AI arts on Artstation, and i still cant hide them all from my feed. Some people are trying to pretend their arts are not ai, and at the same time they just put little 'aitag' in the end of hashtags, which most ppl just dont notice believing they see actual art.
On Cara there's no such nonsense.
@@ninja_tonyElaborate please? Unless I am misunderstanding your comment, there are already a lot of platforms that are artist only and people still do quite well over there (DeviantArt, Pixiv, ARTstreet, and more that I'm forgetting). Posting on Cara doesn't mean you can't post anywhere else. Cara is just another place for the art community. If someone wants to look at art and only art then Cara (and any other art-focused platform) is the place to discover artists. If you want your art to be discovered outside the art community, you are still free to continue posting on Instagram, Facebook, or X/Twitter.
i think Instagram is good for bait the viewer into your Portofolio
@@ninja_tony The same can be said about Artstation and Deviantart when they first arrive in internet. And they still keep growing
I’m using Cara for my portfolio. I discovered yesterday you can actually reorder your portfolio posts. This is huge for anyone who likes to group their work by themes or colors. Cara was designed by an artist for artists & it shows.
I just learned this rn, thanks!
Oh no way! Thanks for the tip!
After 20 yrs working in the automotive field for a corporate company- I was let go.. possibly because of remote.. I started a business and tried promoting it on IG - woooo did it change! It’s only influencers and payed, suggested for you posts!! Not one post seen practically of who I follow!! Seems the only way to get noticed is pay to play or have thousands of followers!! I refuse to pay if like to keep it organic and real.. not some pay crap! Moving to Cara to see what’s it like!! ❤
Can you post your Cara portfolio here?..I'd love to have a look at it
Wait, you can reorder portfolio posts? How?
Wait. She's that artist who went viral on twitter because an artist referenced her work for a competition without her permission. Bless her and everyone who created this platform. As someone who loves art it's amazing to see this.
I thought referencing other art is normal? I'm not an artist but I thought all artists use references to make their art.
@@RellisLCTan important difference is that he didn’t reference her art, he copied it one for one (you’ll definitely see it if you look at the painting by her photo). By itself it wouldn’t be a problem if he was just using it for practice or something similar and gave her proper credit for using her photo (as artists will use copying and references for practice all the time), but he first, used the painting in an official art competition as though it was his own original work (and won real money from it), and second, didn’t ask for her permission/consent before using her photo for monetary value and gain.
@@Yunxiao469it really is a shame too, because if he'd just gotten the permission/ rights to make the painting of her photography work, then this massive legal and moral issue wouldn't have happened, and we'd be able to properly appreciate his skill in oil painting. Instead its completely overshadowed by his negligence of other's intellectual property by plagiarising an almost 1/1 copy of her work. Only change was the colour of the robe -_-
@@RellisLCT Not from other people's art without express permission.
Thank you.
Let's be honest, Instagram is currently in the pits lately due to collaborating with AI (which is a total outrage) and trying to be more like TikTok with reels.
You forgot Threads
@@KodokunaSenshiI'd say because nobody cares about threads but a lot of people use threads lmao
Having reels isn’t a bad idea tbh
For me the indicator it's dying is my 52 year old mother and all her friends getting addicted to Instagram and buying stuff they don't need off ads they see there and copying all the "lingo" their fav influencers say. It'll go the way of Facebook, it's only a matter of when not if
Instagram lost its creative soul for business and it slowly becomes a TikTok with reels. And I hate all those commercial ads that pollute Instagram nowadays
Having Glaze integrated into the platform as a whole is excellent. As far why people are getting "really, really mad about artists trying to protect their work", you spelled out exactly why they're angy. Stopping AI bros from scraping art, and if anything poisoning their models, means they both don't have stolen art to train their rubbish AI and their attempts to steal art lead to their models getting damaged. Will need to look into this platform... I like the way they're going about things.
Exactly. The ai programs only evolve from our continued work. Otherwise it's stuck were it is and won't go anywhere. The greedy pricks aren't satisfied with what they've already stolen
People being upset that others use poisoning on data not being consented to being collected is crazy. Thats like breaking into someones house and suing them when you fall down the stairs.
AI developers being forced to collect data more ethically is a good thing for everyone.
Is that a pregnant latias?
It can't as if you can see it so can an AI...
Like to prove my point type in Cara art in Bing and look at the images section... You'll quickly notice you can see the art not on the site... So AI can see it too as if they can't how can you see it off site?.
As an artist, I gave up on Instagram years ago. Over the last few years, my engagement went from getting thousands of likes, comments, and followers on my posts to being lucky if I hit 30 views. Nobody sees my work anymore and I've only lost thousands of followers since 2020. I've switched most of my focus to TH-cam (in hopes of getting my channel monetized soon too), and that's been great, but I've been wishing for another app that is kinder to artists. I have lots of hope for Cara and I've also been posting my work there. Let's see what happens! ❤️
I’m in EXACTLY the same boat (IG refugee who started focusing on yt this year💝). IG holds no lure for me anymore, hasn’t for years. I only still have it so I can see the posts from the handful of celebrities I actually like. I don’t plan to post there anymore.
Ellary I moved to TH-cam and I haven’t looked back. I feel the same about instagram - how very dare they! I had no idea making videos could be so much fun (and could be done in MY style, just like my art). Monetised for a few months and the only way is up. Good luck!
I noticed a lot of change across many platforms in 2020. Lots of something that rhymes with "zen sore chip," and many in-app search engines don't seem to search for anything but what you've already watched, or what's popular but irrelevant.
I just looked at your channel and your videos look so adorable and aesthetic oml 😭🥺
My goodness Your art work so beautiful ❤
Yeah, I joined Cara a few days ago, it's great obviously, the art community never fails to come together. I still don't plan to delete my Instagram account though, because I know people outside the art community as well. But it's sad and dirty at the same time for Instagram to tell us they really don't need us, yet are willing to steal our work....
Well, simply send a note to these people about where to find your stuff - just like people used to do before social media.
Hmm.. My art IG has been dead for a while now, but I'm considering keeping it up just to act as an archive for the older work I've posted on there. I don't plan on continuing to use IG if Cara's the much better option.
@@bagelisdead my ig is dead too past few years. maybe because I dont do reels.
Some of us who are not artists but hobbyists and collectors buy the artists work. Are you guys just planning to sell to other artists?
@@faith9119 my thought too unfortunately
Never heard of Cara before. Thanks for this. I'm sick of Instagram recommending mainly 304 influencers on my feed.
Its a reflection if what you look at so they know you like looking at them
@@OgglyGooglythats not true at all when will people understand this
@@OgglyGooglynot exactly. Tiktok, yes. The algorithm literally recommends what it thinks you like from what you watch. Instagram algorithm can go vamoose & recommend some messed up stuff you've not watched. 304, g0r3 etc. I stopped checking out the Explore page for that reason & it's now a bit more manageable.
@@OgglyGoogly I use an IG account to search for music and art. I use multiple accounts for other purposes. Just because I put male on that account doesn't mean I want to see 304s on that account.
One important thing to keep in mind is that those platforms are usually almost exclusively used by other artists. So as long as you just want to post your portfolio then its great but as soon as you try to reach a broader audience and possibly sell commissions and other products to earn money then its sadly still bound to the conventional social media platforms.
So migrate your stuff to use cara in addition but don't go and delete your account or your posts and "switch". That will just ruin all you have built, kill off the engagement of your fanbase and essentially ruin any way to earn money in the short term.
If cara turns out to be the new big thing then thats amazing but dont risk your hard work in building your network for a "insert random social media platform - killer" like we have seen on a lot of other occasions.
at the very least, we can hopefully just take our newly glazed images and share them to other social...
i hope lots of art directors and agents will get on cara too 🤞🏻
Exactly. We have Behance art station and even deviant art already. Instagram is not a portfolio platform, it’s a place where I find clients from ordinary people.
Yeah, I think Cara is less of an Instagram killer than an ArtStation killer in the long term. If studios start using it to find talent and it limits AI content.
Your good-natured words are how nothing gets accomplished. Nothing is scary about people on another platform if they are just gonna be active on Instagram anyway. The only reason we are seeing Instagram take note of this is because people are actually leaving or deleting posts.
If you're going to say that you could at least talk about that people should use Glaze and being able to use it on your Instagram work.
Instagram is just pedo cove at this moment fr
What worries me about cara is that servers are very, very expensive, and it'll need to be monetized sooner or later; not sure if pure donations and at-will subscriptions will suffice
People need to act for the better outcome after all, If everyone just sit there and doing nothing then what better outcome would made it here? I already donate mine coffee for them at the moment though.
@@huymaivan8671 yes, it should be like a habit!
Myself and some like-minded people ran a forum that was spun up late nineties....it's still online today thanks to the community it serves funding it.
It’s wishful thinking to assume that what rose to the top on other apps,
won’t make an appearance on Cara, but if they can steer clear of the greatest offenders,
(reels/video content) that’s going to require an overabundance of the lowest offenders,
(namely ads) and/or a subscription service. The slack has to be picked up somewhere,
if Cara isn’t some billionaire’s wife’s passion project.
Any artist who’s managed to make it out of the starving stage,
understands the need for funding in any worthwhile undertaking. I’m hopeful tho.
I fund the things I use. Wikipedia says things like "if everyone who used this site donated a dollar blah blah blah-" and I know that most of those people won't donate, so I always donate _more_ than 2 dollars. I know not everyone will do that, but people like me _will_ because we use the site and want others to be able to use it too. I'll do the same for Cara if I use and like it. And if a day comes where funding is an issue, we will resolve it when it arises, or else find a new way forward entirely. Archive of our Own has done that. Why should it be impossible for another platform to achieve the same? We should not doomsay before that time and leave the internet to stagnate into 3 completely homogenized websites with no true place that provides what we need.
One thing that you left out (or maybe you're finding out as you read), is that not only the opt out form is very difficult to access to (for what it should be), but apparently it actually lets you go through with it, but if you don't have a Facebook account associated with your Instagram account you want to opt out from it does... nothing?
Literally, you don't even get the email rejection. You just wait and nothing happens.
I submitted twice (because I have a personal Instagram account, linked to Facebok, and an art account, not linked), and yeah, still waiting.
Oh well. I'm creatinglightly on Cara, as well as everywhere else 😅
It's good that you did this video Brad (even though there's people asking what Cara is before even watching the video lol)
I've opted out from an Instagram account that has no Facebook account associated and it actually sent me a confirmation e-mail that I have successfully opted out. Maybe there was some Internet stability issue for a second that prevented your form to actually get forwarded.
@@xxAryAryxxthey have straight up denied other artists to opt out even when they provided sufficient proof of their works in the models. And even then it’s going on their word they opted you out. So I wouldn’t take them at face value
@@xxAryAryxx i think it might also be country dependant and how forced they are to oblige. It absolutely sucks. I'm considering deleting everything.
One thing I should clarify is that if you are in the US (at least from my knowledge) nobody is allowed to opt out. The only way to “opt out” is by having a private account or if you live in a region like the EU. In the EU, you have the right to object because they have formalized AI laws.
Another thing to note is that the closest thing to “opting out” also would appear as the option to remove AI trained data upon your account. However, this will only remove existing data that is stored (and NOT future data, as it is not detailed) and they can reject your claim. And also, you’d have to provide them proof of your work having been subject to AI usage. Not to mention they are hoping people give up quickly because of how hard it is to access even just that deletion form, so that enduring people’s impatience will give them the leeway to continue exercising AI integration.
And that is where this AI thing doesn’t just affect artists. One man had to file a claim because someone had generated AI photos of his own daughters, all because of the accessibility that is now forced AI integration. That is but one of many other cases, which is really just the tip of the iceberg.
I really hope Cara stays relevant in the long run.
@@JuanManuelTastzianIt is country dependent. Only those with AI laws can actually opt out properly. EU is the prime example of this, though I don’t know if any other country has em too.
Cara sounds promising. I don’t draw but I do photography as a hobby. Thanks
So does their founder :)
I'm a photographer too and haven't gotten a lot of traction on instagram. I'm hesitant to switch over, even with my deep mistrust of AI. Could you let me know your experience and easy it was to port things ove?
@@ahansel2000 Same!! I want to move to a platform that does not abuse the short videos lol
Cara allow photography. and their founder also a photography, lucky you
God I honestly want to post pictures so bad but insta is so unusable
I should probably try this cara app!
The problem is, Cara at some point WILL have to monetize something about the platform and/or most likely its users. They have no choice if they want to survive because servers cost a fortune to rent or operate. So either selling user data, bringing in advertisers to the platform (which usually comes with content moderation or restriction demands from said advertisers) or charging users directly via subscriptions.
From what I've seen thus far, I would happily pay a subscription for this service. If anything, to keep the privacy policy as good as it is. In fact, there is a way you can subscribe to support them, that coffee support link allows you to pay monthly, which I now am. Support good privacy practices!
A £1 a month payment would be fine for most people. Just enough to keep the business sustainable.
Totally, I do not even post on cara, I am happy to pay to have access to view all the art. I do not have to see shorts, I do not have to see tones of ads. I am happy.
I would rather have a Cara subscription than a Twitter/X one.
I think it depends on how well it will take off, which is too soon to judge.
I'm sure AO3's servers cost a bit less due to it not hosting primarily images, but I guess if Cara manages to get a good number of regular donators, it might manage to stay free.
I've seen someone suggesting that they might incorporate a commissions system where they retain a small percentage of the artist's payment, which I think could be a good idea too.
Im sick of everything on instagram being a video. I think I will check it out!
Me too.
Its a great way to have a free portfolio
The problem is artists want non artists to see their work. Only artists have moved to Cara. I want consumers, potential clients to see my work, not fellow artists.
Agreed. We have a very nice following on IG and sell a lot of art through the platform. Sure, I love seeing other artists' work but they're not the ones buying.
it's not always about money, it's about people with the same hobby sharing and appreciate each other's art, like good old deviantart. if your purpose is to make money, go apply for job that need a fulltime concept artist. it's hard to make a living as an artist if you don't have a fanbase or support from the community.
U can always just send a link to clients or have it on your iG listings.
@@jonathandegoederen4276what makes it different from behance or artstation in that case? The premise should be to attract non artists ON the cara app
If Cara markets itself properly and becomes the place where artists post their work then clients or potential clients will follow, even if it's just to find better or alternative options and not necessarily post their own content.
All I do with these new platforms is claim my username before anybody else does and never use it.
Still fo it
That’s actually a good one.
lmaooooo
I wish we could have "traditional TV shows and Hollywood movies" get put into AI without their consent. I bet laws would change faster
Already musicians are starting to freak out... I guess they thought ai would exclude them
The music industry is way more vocal. And they will be pissed when ever it starts.
Unfortunately morals won't stop anything. We need lawsuits. And lawsuits by big corporations, cuz they don't care about us little guys being upset about ai
@@piusdoe8984 Yep, that's why I'd love "traditional entertainment" to get dragged in. They have the big lawyers. That would be faster to make new/update laws. Rather than wait for multiple "smaller cases".
Like a meal. You can get filled with rice, but it has to be many grains, or have a whole turkey. Hard to ignore a turkey sized problem. It's sadly easy to ignore one grain of rice.
That's part of why they went on strike last summer. Studios were using ai to fix scenes already done instead of having the actors come back themselves. So yeah, Hollywood is definitely already on top of this.
It's kinda wild to me that people here are saying that you can't do "business" on an artist-first platform... prior to the rise of self-absorbed hellholes like twitter and instagram, vast majority of artists did all their business on Deviantart which was - that's right - an artist-first site. It grew because eventually the criticial mass of pretty pictures was enough for non-artists to start signing up in droves (it also supported a wide array of arts so a lot of people, even if they didn't think they were capital-A Artists, could upload stuff like short stories or comics made from their action figure collections to spruce up their profile). If enough artists withdraw their talent to Cara, the business will follow.
How can you monetize your time on Cara though?
They don't know any better.
💯 I get so irritated by people being so negative right from the start. Instagram and TH-cam didn’t start out with a billion daily users. They grew over time because people enriched the website over YEARS. The same can be true for Cara if artists maintain it’s freshness and get it to the same critical mass the other sites reached.
@@jesterfeathers true but until that time comes artist still need to get paid sooner rather then later. when cara becomes completely viable then creators can make the hard switch.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough You can use it to redirect people from there to your website (which often doesn't have enough traffic by its own) where you can monetize it: sell your art, get commissions, etc. If for some reason one can't technically do a site, or can't afford the hosting and domain (really cheap these days), or the easy "non-technical" way: a 30 bucks/month Shopify account, or Wix (kindda cheaper) if can't or not willing to do any of those options, then the monetizing site can be just anoother platform, like Ko-Fi, Patreon, etc, as you as well would direct people there from your Cara account. But at least you would have your art in an uncluttered place that cares about the whole AI problem, and is taking at least some measures to fight it, plus hopefully having certain traffic (much more than in the typical artist's blog or website). You would get the traffic from there, although I would also use other mainstream platforms to bring/funnel traffic to your Cara account, as well.
Did you know: cara, the exact same spelling and pronunciation as the new site, is the Irish word for "friend". They should have a landing page that says "Speak friend and enter."
cara algo means "face" in spanish and supposedly portuguese (also cara in spanish is the female word of "expensive")
Rostro is face in Spanish…. But you might be Spanish and know something I don’t 😂🥰Cara means expensive yeah… in my language it doesn’t mean anything. But if with switch the C with a K, it means the dudes.
Cara means face and expensive in the female form in Spanish, but also dear in Italian… 😅
@@SpacyMidnightrostro and cara are synonyms 😊
Yea I’m not looking for friends. I’m looking for paying customers
Cara reminds me, a little, of the first years of Deviant art. I signed up as soon as I saw this video. I don't post on Instagram and haven't ever regretted it.
i hope Cara doesnt go to hell like deviantart did when i signed up for it :(
I haven’t been on Deviant Art lately, but I did post much of my artwork years ago and got a decent following. Why exactly did Deviant Art stop being popular? I am more into photography now but got barely any followers on Instagram and even VERO.
Cara is basically Behance @@twotruckslyrics
I was thinking " oo a new deviant?!?" Ty for the confirmation.😊
I’m so glad to see larger channels covering Cara! 🥰💗💞💞 I made an AI “art” video mentioning Cara a month ago but I don’t have many subscribers so it’s awesome to see popular folks get the word out to the masses!
I have an account on Cara and it’s been so refreshing seeing actual ART on my homepage AND explore! I almost forgot what that was like, it’s been so long since I had that feeling on Instagram, where I’ve been stuck for the past few years. Now that Cara’s here, I finally have a place that feels good to post and I don’t plan to post to Instagram anymore. I understand that people who built a large following on ig would hesitate to prioritize a new app, but for someone unpopular like me I have nothing to lose. Folks complain about “needing IG for reaching normies to buy art” but normies haven’t seen/Liked my posts on Instagram in years. If only my handful of artist friends are going to see my work anyway, I may as well post only on a site that keeps my work from getting AI scraped.
Pretty sure it’s being AI scrapped already. You can see the art, AI can see the art..
@@Fantaztig All posts on Cara are automatically Glazed, which protects them from AI mimicry. (Glaze distorts what AI “sees” when it scrapes an image, so anyone trying to steal artwork from Cara will only be poisoning their AI’s dataset. Even screenshotting each artwork one by one would not break their Glaze protection.) Human eyes usually can’t see the basically microscopic distortions that Glaze adds, so it may not be obvious to you that the images are protected, but they are.
@@Fantaztig All posts on Cara are automatically Glazed, which protects them from AI scraping. Glaze distorts what the AI "sees" when it tries to scrape an artwork. Even screenshots don't break Glaze protection. Glaze distortion is usually imperceptible to the human eye, so the image might not look like its protected to you, but it is. Any AI that crawls Cara for images will leave with distorted, inaccurate data that will poison the AI's understanding/ability to make images that look anything like the original pictures.
You can get more info about how Glaze works in my AI "art" video at the timestamp 06:11 ---> th-cam.com/video/5oaZPriUJl4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=39WoSOHCAN9e3roY&t=371 . There are also other AI/Glaze informational videos linked in my video's description.
Glaze (and its sister software Nightshade, which provides further image protection against AI) are new tools that actually enable artists to protect their work. The tech executives rely on artists giving in to their insulting theft of our hard artwork, so please don't lose hope ❤ There are thousands of artists right beside you who aren't giving up, me included :)
@@Fantaztig any art that is Glazed is protected from accurate AI scraping. There is a breakdown of how Glaze works in the “ai art won pt replace human artists p” video in my channel if you want more info on how it works. There are also informative videos linked in my video’s description
Thanks for the heads up! Saw a lot of recommendations for Cara videos and I was like “huh?” Because you’re on it now I get it! 👍🏽
They certainly have been good at promoting it, or just the artists are doing that work.
It’s for unoriginal followers who don’t understand technology.
As a artist mostly a painter these days but still dablle in drawing for fun. I made my Cara account the other night. Defently going to keep posting on both since I've made a decent following on insta over the years. I sure hope to see this Cara app grow within the year onwards. Defently gonna give it a good ol try and reupload my paintings on Cara little by little and see how it goes.
Bad idea
Are you looking for other artists to push the like button on your art?
The biggest problem with Cara is that your audience will not follow you there, unless your entire audience is other creative people. Anybody who isn’t an artist likely won’t want to be there because they cannot participate. I don’t see Cara becoming the place where people share photos of their family, their dogs, or their lunch. And if you’re not, including those people, then who’s gonna stick around and want to participate, or more importantly, buy from you?
Some people have also said that you can use it as a portfolio, which is cool except how are you going to get buyers or clients to come see it? You’re will have to drive people to Cara somehow, because most of those individuals will not go there purposely.
I just don’t see this being the social media holy Grail that all these creative people think it will become. It’s essentially a low buck version of ArtStation at this point.
However, if all you wanna do is hang out with other creatives and not worry about building clientele or making money from your work, then cool, enjoy the space.
Or maybe I’m wrong. I would certainly love to see some success stories of people doing well financially through the platform before I’m willing to put my energy into it.
Well, that’s just what Art station was in the good ol’ days, minus the feed. Didn’t stop it from becoming huge. Not everyone wants to be an influencer, some just need a reliable portfolio page where HRs could find them, and a place to hang with art community
to be a successful artist you need to be recognize first. company won't ask random unknown artist to do their project even their artwork is good. they hire you because you're a well known artist with good portfolio. or they need to hire an artist and you apply for the job
@@regiluthfi yet many artists work at big studios without having a huge online presence. You don’t need to wait to be discovered - pack your portfolio, find job listings/studios/project mentions online and write them first.
Artists buy from other artists the most. DeviantArt and other art based apps and websites have been financially viable for many artists. On the surface the audience seems like a big issue, but you to any artists page on Indra or anywhere else and you will see most of their followers are other artists, as well as their buyers.
Cara sounds amazing, only thing I’m a bit sad about is that video is not supported, and as an animator this is a problem…I hope they integrate it going forward
For now only GIFs and TH-cam links work.
I didn’t even know that, because this is the first time I’m even hearing about the platform, but that is a SERIOUS issue. Not just for animators, but because video has the highest view and retention rates across the board, and it’s not even close.
DomoTown is another new art platform with a similar mission that supports video
I see animation on there very often! They're short, but very beautiful. Many animators are on that site :)
Theyll prolly add videos when they get their servers figured out. Theres such a massive influx of users theyre having a bit of trouble rn lol
Very cool! May have to check it out. Deleted my Instagram app a year ago due to all the ads. Have not looked back. Thanks for sharing!
This is honestly so refreshing. Immediately downloaded it and I'm incredibly excited to have a safe space where artists can simply share their work with one another. Scrolling on sites flooded with AI is painful and nerve-wracking because I can't even trust what I'm looking at - I can't count the number of times I saved a drawing on Pinterest only to find out weeks later that it was AI. Having an app where I don't have to constantly watch behind my back is like a breath of fresh air so we artists can finally relax 😅
Thank you Cara!!
Using it a lot and I love it!
It's like a cleaner merge of Instagram and Threads, without all the bloat. Cool stuff!
I hope that this thrives because I am wanting to bring all of my stuff that I have online to only a couple of social media networks and I think this will be a great one if they continue to get support.
instagram is both Sketchy and Stupid and I really hope it learns its lesson due to its lack of development and greedy stupid updates
Instagram so annoying
Cara is worse and I could write you an book as to why.
@@nerobaal6655 how about just a paragraph?
@@x_VineM_x no
@@x_VineM_x Read through the comments and you’ll find paragraphs I’ve already written. I’m not writing stuff for 500 thousand people. Majority of them are soulless followers who barely have an education.
Because Insta sucks. I tried to establish myself there, and all I got to interact with were bots and scamers.
Litterally
I remember deviantart where i throw garbage art and it wont get attention so i partially blame social media for causing imposter syndrome
You think i draw zero quality ms paint but nah i got a drawing tablet
Its just im cursed
As for AI it just exposed scumbags companies and people
Great video Brad! I really appreciate hearing your thoughts on this, it’s really been a roller coaster the past few days!
Brad calling Artgerm "this guy" I find these small things funny
hahahaha.
OK, so I recorded the audio before I grabbed the video footage. So yeah... it's a bit of of an understatement. lol
Wow that sounds great! I really hope that Cara will be the solution for artists online and offer a save place where everyone can share and create together without having their blood sucked out like instagram
Thank you SO MUCH for this fantastic video about this! I’ve been SO DISGUSTED by all of this going on with Instagram lately that I haven’t even been using it. I’ve been hearing about Cara here and there and MY GOSH, this sounds like a breath of fresh air. Absolutely gonna sign up, tysm
It’s for unoriginal follower types that don’t understand technology. It’s perfect for you. 👍🏻
I love this site so far I've been just enjoying seeing other creatives and not having to worry about it being AI or not is just such a breath of fresh air that and you can separate your portfolio but still retweet art in another area is so awesome and its something I didn't know I wanted but its one of the things I never likes about twitter that if I retweeted something it would show on my profile its just so nice not to have to worry about it. I hope this becomes the AO3 for artists like AO3 is for fanfiction. If they need donations I would happily give them some money for it.
May have to check this out. I've been looking for a place to post my art. Instagram has been awful. Thanks for the heads up!
The problem is they have no way to make money. Server capacity is expensive. Either they’ll need to lean very heavily on advertising, and rates are abysmal these days, or charge for subscriptions in some way if they’re going to survive. Either that or they sell to a bigger company after a year or two.
Yep. Hope there's some other solution but I'm not optimistic
They’re already secretly feeding your art to A.I.
Proof? Or is it just your weird hate for people wanting better for themselves and their community?
Or feeding art to AI companies. They pay a lot of money for that data.
@@Yekaterina_draws I wish they succeed, but AI companies paid shutterstock a lot of money to use their collection. I would limit uploads and create a tiered subscription plan
I've never seen so many artists jumping so quickly onto another platform. Please curb your enthusiasm and remain vigilant. YOU are the best protector of your art, your creations, your "children". Don't send them out into the world and expect someone else, rely on something else, to take better care of them than you should.
Exactly!! Plus apparently Cara has the rights to everything posted on it, meaning they own the art or something silly like that
@@Afearedraccoon No?
"Cara respects the intellectual property rights of others and request that users of the Site and the Services likewise respect the intellectual property rights of others as well. Pursuant to 17 U.S.C. 512(i)"
Right from the terms of conditions.
The only right they have over peoples art is the right to remove it from their sight if it breaks the rules etc which every website has.
Dude thanks for this. So great to see this has happened and can’t wait to join. Glad to see this is also based out of California so the IP law is well litigated and understood.
It’s for unoriginal artists and anime trace style artists to rub each others back. You will do great there. 👍🏻
@@nerobaal6655 Reported for spam. This is a bot.
@@jaytopia2924 You’re legitimately a bot. I can show you my id
Bro, everybody gotta know about this. Thank you for spreading the news!
I can tell by your profile picture that you are exactly the type of person on Cara.
@@nerobaal6655 What you mean by that?
Thank you, I didn't know about this! I'd taken a little break, so I'm really grateful to people spreading the word!
I just hope more good things like this continue happening. We need them right now.
I just joined as a follower! I love art but hate social media. I was excited to find that a bunch of my faves are already there!
I don’t want followers but paying customers. I’m not trying to impress other artists and I’m not looking for likes.👍🏻
@@nerobaal6655Good for you, I guess
But I do get your viewpoint, likes and "engagements" are a useless metric to rely on
@@wrkl You're replying a spam bot. Theyve replied on every comment. It's ironic considering all the replies are about not caring about metrics. Also deviant art existed before insta and tiktok etc and still had paying customers, so dont get too worried.
@@jaytopia2924 gotta love spam bots with ulterior agenda, eh
So my question is, what sort of support does this new app have for businesses or professionals who make a living from their creativity?
It’s all great being able to post your art in all its creative glory, but where are the clients. As bad as instagram is, that’s where the paying clients are.
It’s all great that the creator of the app has her own money in it but at the rate of the scaling, they’d need to make money at some point. No one starts a business without the intention of making profit.
The clients will probably come after the artists have established a foundation on the site.
Cara isn’t for finding paying customers. It’s for unoriginal artists and anime trace style artists who want to rub each others back.
@@nerobaal6655 Tell me you've never even looked on cara without telling me.
I'm a musician looking to start releasing my work soon. I'm so glad i stumbled upon cara. i hate social media. i was dreading the idea of using Instagram and having to make posts, stories, AND reels. thats too damn much!!! not only do we need to create so much bullshit content for social medias like IG, we don't want to and shouldn't have to. artists should just be able to create art, release it and have the existence of the art be the advertisement/promo for the art. as nice as that would be, you have to get a little bit of a word out, so an app specifically for artists and fans of said artists is literally the perfect solution. hopefully people can get their artistic career started with cara.
Sounds good, it reminds of The One Man Army that created Nomad Sculpt.
It's amazing to have Cara, a platform for artists. I like it. And about supporting them, Cara have a support page where anyone could support them monthly or one-time support.
This was helpful. My read was CARA seemed more of an artist community (like art station). I got a Cara acct but am concerned I could lose non artist supporters who aren’t artists. Does Cara allow non artists into their service?
Yes, they welcome anybody who loves and appreciates art. :)
I left Instagram years ago and I never went back but an app that has art on it that's not AI... Hmmm I might give it a try. I like seeing different pen styles of art because of the uniqueness it brings
so kinda like artstation but more social. i like it! definitely signing in!
Exactly why I started an account today once I heard of it! Heck yeah!
My one note about Cara is that according to the TOS they own every single piece posted there or something like that, when using the app they own all data (meaning that in the future they could also sell it for AI training-)
Signed up to Cara today as a trad artist because of your video! Thanks dude!
Havent watched the vid fully but one of the reason I hate Instagram now is its weird search function that filters out latest posts and givin instead top latest posts, which sucks
Yes, I hate when they removed the ability to filter tags by newest first last year
Cara is to META is Bluesky to Twitter all over again. I secured my username, but I'm over 40 years old and tired of migrating social medias.
So glad i found your channel! Its been so (and i cannot stress this enough) helpful please keep up the amazing content and info😊❤
For me, its not about the "Website" or "the App Platform" those are important, but what's even more important is the infrastructure that hosting the content. The data centers will have AI build into them, no getting around that, anything you post online that gets hosted in another server is gonna be used. Like money in a bank, you put money into an account but the bank uses that money for other stuff until you need it. All those moves to "protect" yourself from Machine Learning, is already too late, unless you build you own hosting network.
I'm so glad to hear this... I've come to hate Insta in the last year.. It's overwhelming.. I'm going to check Cara out and hoping it keeps a stable and simple platform for artists and art lovers.. Coz all we want is to create and share, get the appreciation and love for the creation.. It's a simple ask. Good luck to everyone and hope we find each other on Cara!
Cara is still in development and it gliches a lot but i get it rn.
Almost a million joined in just a week so i hope they improve the app fast.
So far, so good.
This sounds great! I don't really do social media because it seems so "loud" with all the short-span content trying to get your attention and the toxic culture of getting as many likes, views, and followers as possible. I use to do art and post my work online, but for several years now I've just been a spectator wanting to see cool art of any medium and enjoy that art and community without worrying about the "loudness" that comes with most other social media. I just might make an account and check it out.
Cara is no Instagram, though. Because on Instagram, you had consumers. On Cara, it's just a bunch of artists posting their work. It's just another portfolio platform. There are no consumers there who would want to buy your art or hire you for your services. We need another Instagram not another DeviantArt. But even DeviantArt has a lot more to offer. DeviantArt is a community, it has competitions and clubs. Cara is really really boring. There is no community nor a community incentive. It's morr like a Behance now that I think about it.
This. Cara needs to have patrons of art for artists to thrive. Honestly, artists don't view other's work since they're busy working on theirs. 😅😅😅
Loving this topic about Cara for new folks like me on the platform. Much much appreciated!
Note on the vouch system: I’ve been vouched for over a year now but the other day, Cara false flagged my art as AI before I was able to post it. I reported this issue (seems like it’s been happening quite a bit for people) and they let me know that thankfully, my account wouldn’t be like, negatively impacted or anything. I hope that continues to be the case because AI detection just isn’t flawless right now
Hmm, yeah as soon as he mentioned the whole “community vouched” thing, the first thing that came to MY mind was how easily that could be abused. It sounds great in theory, but in reality, people will always find a way to be malicious with the tools they are given, so it’s going to be critical to see how this new platform handles things like that.
AI-generated content detection will never work in any form (image, text, audio, video, etc.)
In 12-16 months people will literally be able to generate a video with AI having themselves creating the art they uploaded which in reality was made using AI models.
Good thing about cara is that it has portofolio function and post only like artstation, so its easy for artist who do commision or are working in company
The creator recently won a lawsuit on plagiarism.
Someone we can trust.
Artist trying to protect their work:
A.I. -Artist- Generator: *_"How dare you!"_*
I feel like people are ignoring one SIGNIFICANT issue here with this supposed “new savior” app. It doesn’t matter how many artists run over to it if no one else is on it BUT artists. I had never even heard of it before this week, and the vast majority of the non artist population likely hasn’t either. That’s not to say it can’t grow and reach new audiences over time, because every platform had to start somewhere, but people that are preemptively throwing all their eggs in a brand new, untested basket is just wildly ignorant from a business point of view.
flickr has quietly been doing its thing for 20 years now with little change to core functionality-which is a good thing. free account gives you 1,000 posts, or pay something like $5/month for unlimited. mature content ok, established user base, basic social media functionality, excellent as backup if you want to set stuff to private. i dunno, everyone just keeps reinventing the wheel and then goes flat whereas flickr just keeps on trucking.
700K now!!! ...and growing. Crazy!
That’s a TINY number for a platform, but the biggest problem is that even if it was 7 MILLION, it still wouldn’t matter if the only people on it are artists. Discovery is important, and you can never achieve any kind of real organic growth if you are only marketing to people in your own bubble. The other obvious issue is that the platform still has to monetize at some point, which means either advertising, or charging people for subscriptions, which is fine, but as soon as a new site/app has to figure out the finance part of things, that’s when everything usually unravels.
Not to mention, this is like the 10th “Instagram killer” to come along in just a few years, and absolutely none of them have amounted to anything. I’m not trying to be negative, but I AM trying to be realistic. If people want to start pushing their art to this site in addition to their existing platforms, that’s great, but giving up on everything else and putting all your eggs in an untested basket is career suicide.
@@ninja_tony I get what you're saying, valid points for sure. They did say though: "We want to be a place where the community can host their portfolios while providing recruiters, art directors, and clients a platform to easily seek out human artists for the jobs they are hiring for." Hopefully, they succeed at that.
Monetisation is a priority - huge bills amounting, but I do love it there, feels welcoming, warm and open. Gives me good vibes all over, haha! I really wish they succeed!
I’m not advocating giving up on everything else, that's foolish, but I like the awareness they raise around AI, ethical usage and copyright.
Every unoriginal artist, anime trace style artist and followers of that type all went there. If you’re looking for that kind of thing than Cara is for you. 😁👍🏻
@@nerobaal6655 Well, I am not really interested in anime art (though I see there are many such artists there; to me, it feels like those artists were already on Cara before others started to come in...). I just look for people I admire in other styles and genres - lettering artists, illustrators, surface pattern designers, ... there are a lot of them and growing. Noticed a lot of traditional painters (oil on canvas), some photographers and even sculptors that are joining. If you look for them, you'll find them (just type a certain style, topic or technique in the explore page). There are a lot of high-quality and very well-known artists there. Also, you can customize your feed to your liking so you don't have to see any anime art.
@@nerobaal6655 I've seen anime art on Cara but I feel like those artists were already there before others started coming in. I am not into anime art and I follow people who do lettering, illustration, and surface pattern design. I've also seen a lot of traditional painters (oil on canvas) and some photographers and sculptors joining. There are a lot of high-quality and well-known artists there if you want to look for them. The numbers are growing as we speak. Also, you can customize your feed to your liking so you never have to see any anime art.
What’s stopping people from stealing art from Cara?
(Asking cause if it helps artists protect their work, that’s probably why I haven’t seen them post anything in awhile and I’ll download the app so I can see their art again)
Interesting news ! I give it a shot for sure ! Art forward ! 😁
Not only Glaze, but I also hope they will have Nightshade built into it as well. So you can have both your defense, and offense.
Thing in IG is that random warnings or delete for user accounts even when the drawing is not nude just ecchi in anime style but almost naked women are where their accounts are still existing and not having issues IG taking it down
I was thinking of getting off instagram today and this video pops up, thank you! I will go check it out. ❤
It’s a shame but it seems like Cara is only for digital or traditional art and not necessarily for other forms of expressing art e.g physical or 3D pieces like fibre arts, pottery, clay modelling etc.
I hope to see the platform expand to more artists but I suppose the question of ‘where do you draw the line?’ comes into play.
They have topics for 3D and other kind of art and craft ! You can ;)
Man ive hated Instagram for *years* i hate the TikTok-ification of it like i dont wanna be an influencer and plaster my face all over the place and record my process and edit video, i juat wanna draw i hate it... and even beyond that its insane the % of posts on my feed that I dont care about, hundreds of ads, hundreds of suggested content posts like, where's the people im actually following?
I really hope Cara succeeds
💯 I agree - it’s insane!!
I left my existing Instagram account, but now I will focus more on Cara 💗
Why do artist dont use Pinterest?, can you make a Video about it, comparing Pinterest, IG and now Cara
Countries of the EU are not in the form. I tried opting out but couldn't.
Neither in central and South America
Neigther in Canada, we can't too
I really like Cara's layout, reminds me of Twitter so it was a relatively easy switch! Just need to start posting my work ahah
In Capitalist America, corporation monetizes YOU!
hahaha
LMAO ...
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And actually ... that statement literally explains how central banks create money "out of nothing!
Honestly I am always afraid to share my stuff but I am going to check this app out. I will post some of my stuff and maybe it will get me back into drawing. Thanks for this video. I would've never have known about Cara.
YET can't help to be skeptical of it, have them proof themselves first :3 how do they pay for servers and all that stuff.
They pay out of pocket for servers and use volunteer developers for maintenance.
@@jesterfeathersthat’s not sustainable. From what I am gathering just from the comments on this video alone, they have ALREADY hit a roadblock with servers and not being able to add any more new members until servers are updated and expanded. This is what 99% of the population still doesn’t understand, EVEN TH-cam went over a decade without making a profit.
OH MY FRICKK FINALLY A SOCIAL APP FOR ARTISTS YYYEESS 😭😭😭✨ It feels like I can see the light again, when insta released that announcement I was devastated
The thing about the difference between Cara and Instagram, is that Cara is marketed as "only for artists" so there's really only gonna be artists there. I see it as another Threads, everyone will talk about how it's the Twitter killer and then after a couple weeks it'll be dead again. I can see why you would go there for sharing art but it's not a good move from a business standpoint. Maybe it'll just be another Deviantart app.
But think about it, who else other than artists are gonna see your work there? No one really. It's marketing itself solely to artists. For the artists who are looking to sell their work or make money off of it somehow, there's literally no point to going there. It's like workers asking each other for work.
I don't see it as a negative but it's not the Instagram killer or Meta killer or anything.
This is a very good point for them to be aware in their marketing as well as their target audience.
If they adjust the marketing they can certainly attract general public interested in buying art.
Cara and Artgram were spurred back in the NO AI movement that boomed on Artstation, and they haven't died yet. It's hard to make an art related site with goal of being an Instagram or Twitter "killer", since millions of non artists also use those sites, and likely aren't going to join an art community based one just because. People can still use these artist exclusive sites to market themselves, it just won't be as easy as it has been when everyone was on the same site, after all, what are portfolios and blogs for? Artstation was (and still is) used by artists to market themselves for years and their growth without the problem of "workers asking each other for work".
I'm sorry but this is not true. When people DM Cara we responded anybody is welcome.
Is the opt out feature supposed to also opt you out if the AI search engine thing they introduced? Or is just supposed to not feed art to AI?
I guess it doesn't matter either way if they wont let you do it but i was just curious
I just left IG for Cara too.
You belong there. 😂
Bruh, I was really surprised because I was an early user of this application and now this application has more and more users
I am praying for their success
I might even donate to them. I can't do much, but I can maybe buy a coffe
It’s for unoriginal followers who don’t understand technology.
I bet it will be great for artists, the problem is that the great thing about instagram is that it connected artists with the general public / clients, if it’s for artists, your work wont reach the general public
Does it work om desktop like insta doesn't?
F phone browsing
Yes, I primarily use it on desktop. It looks and feels like old desktop twitter with a bigger space for posts (to allow the artwork to look bigger), minus the weirdo algorithm.
this showed up on my feed just as i was figuring out how to get my new art business (jewelry right now, but i'm hoping to add prints and enamel pins when i get back on my drawing groove) out to the public. solved all my problems. immediately downloaded cara, see you there lads.
With all due respect having yet another account on yet another social media platform doesn’t mean anyone left anything. Don’t we have websites that are already about that like deviant art, Behance, dribbble and art station? This is a new hot thing that’s going to be dead in a month like that stupid clubhouse thing or threads.
I like all the space sci-fi things. My gripe with that shirt is that nothing is to scale. Star Destroyers are not the same size as the Enterprises.
I hate ai
I can’t wait to see if we can put music to our art on Cara, that was the reason I like insta but with the ai. Am moving to Cara
To me feels like a new ArtStation, 99% of the artists get 0 attention, and those who already were big in other platform will stay as the bigger artists, and since this app is created by artists for artists, there's a very slim chance of being able to create an audience there. Eventually, people will just go back to Instagram and accept that their art may be stolen for AI development.
I've been on Cara for over a week and because its art orientated i feel i won't be confined to having to stick to one medium or genre like instagram want's you to. i have posted digital art and traditional painting and the response from people have been so kind.