Best tip i got as a two hander (besides this video) was to "take a shorter first step" My first step was always really long and while it helped me move faster, it led to my push/slide to be really short and weak. I'd feel the ball flying off my hand only to see 14-15mph. I started taking a shorter first step and it's given me way more room to slide, as well as helped with my pacing. Because of that I can hit 15.5 - 16mph. Hopefully after this vid, I can get to 16.5+ mph.
I have the exact and I mean EXACT same problem. I have incredibly short legs so if I take big steps I lose a lot of ball speed. Makes sense too, cuz when you do sprints you don't want your steps to be long. You want them to be fast so you can maintain energy. When I throw it with two hands, I need to straight up sprint to the foul line in order to hit the 14.5mph mark. I'm going two handed next year so I'll definitely remember to keep that first step as short as possible. Might go back to four step approach too, since five steps slowed me down as a one handed bowler.
The best tip I've received as a two-hander, and it has really helped with my balance, is to ALWAYS focus that my slide feet arrive first and then release. It may only be a matter of milliseconds, but it truly makes a world of difference. When I consistently have the mindset of prioritizing my footwork over releases, it's incredible how everything falls into place. Delayed Timing it’s the key.
Best tip I got for rev rate was keeping my bowling arms forehand in contact with the ball until release. Not sure why but I always assumed I WAS cupping the ball but couldn’t get revs, that simple cue helped. Love These videos, hope to see lots more tips and how-to’s. Really appreciate them as a new bowler!
Thanks Packy! I've watched lots of instructional videos. Yours are awesome! You are relaxed and comfortable while sharing your great sense of humor. ~old guy learning two handed
Learning to properly apply and time hip-shoulder separation changed everything for me with regard to speed. It's a huge component of velocity in just about all throwing sports and many bowlers use it without even realizing it.
Best tip I ever got was to not start so far in at the beginning of league/tournament sets. It was uncomfortable at first playing closer to the gutter than I ever have, but once I got comfortable, my average has went up and definitely got higher since then!
@Packy This is one of the better videos you've produced. Excellent information. My biggest issue is staying consistent with revs/release. I feel like this will help quite a bit.
These are such good tips. I find my practice sessions are always bowled on super difficult, super dry (burnt up) conditions (Sunday morning, go figure!) so your tip to try start further back on the approach and walk in faster makes so much sense.
Best tip I ever got was to keep my butt down when releasing the ball. My PSO said this to me as a passing comment one night at league and it keeps me in balance when throwing shots. 2nd best was from my teammate one night when I was missing a bunch of easy spares. He told me I was short arming my spare shots. since he told me that and I started following through my spare percentage has gone up considerably.
Following through on spare shots is a game changer. I also short-armed my spares (and sometimes still do) but my accuracy is so much better when I follow through.
Best bowling tip I ever got was that there are no definites in bowling. It's all situational and experience. Exploring hand positions and checking the track, increasing steps, longer back swing and what it does to your game, etc...all are to create more tools to use. Basically teaching me versatility.
A tip my coach gave me was to not worry about what the other guy is doing. I release the ball three boards from the gutter. When he saw me do that he told me it’s good to not think about what other might not do. If it’s working and if you can do it consistently. Do it.
been bowling two handed for 3 years now. Some days are good, some are bad. I kept trying to replicate all the top two handers release and form. My form is similar to Chris Via. One small thing i did to fix my release and approach and help tremendously with consistency was keep my wrist cuff as much as i can. From the back swing all the way to my release. If u keep it cuff, you will get under and behind the ball. U lose some power and speed but with practice, u will pick those back up in no time. give it a shot next time u go practice. Just mainly focus on keeping your wrist cuffed even upon release.
Most helpful tip was as soon as you think “I should change balls” or “maybe I should move?” Do It! You’re going to be right way more often than you’re wrong so not immediately changing will cost you pins in the long run.
Great vid Packy. I've been working on using my legs more. As a 1 handed no thumb bowler I found my wrist and forearm getting tired after 6+ games. But bringing my legs into it has helped take the strain off my wrist and arm. Deffo gunna try a few different hand positions tho. Keep up the great work all of you at house bowling. A special shout out to the Camera person. ❤
I have struggled for so long with my rev rate and power. Many years ago I bowled 1 handed and would whip the ball about 17-18 mph every shot. I switched to 2 handed about 2 years ago and carried my slower ball speed that i got too when I was 1 hand which is about 14.5-low 15 which I don't care for. I have wanted to increase my rev rate and speed and this has been the best video that I have seen. It gives me the drive to practice as much as I can with the best knowledge I can get
Best tip I can give is record yourself. Especially when your having a bad day. Most likely a small mistake is something your making with your physical game. Bc we don’t practice and drill as much as pros. We’re susceptible to things like not staying down on your shot, having your balance arm move to much or rolling your shoulder forward etc etc. Recording yourself and posting it online or sending it to a coach can really be valuable.
Great tips!! I’ve increased speed by 1.5 mph over the last month with great results and like you said with speeding up my footwork. Now I just need to work on cupping my wrist better.
Good teaching video. My one handed speed is about 12mph. Anything faster results in a challenging split.(big four or 7&10). I don't curve because my injured spine from an old car accident doesn't produce the needed back swing. Nevertheless, I enjoy easy spares or 8-9 opens. Keep up the good work and enjoy bowling. (I should try candlepin or duck pin. You throw full speed with a small 2 or 3 pound ball and there's no oil ) Thanks.
Thank you for this video! I'll be practicing this for sure! The best tip I have in my short time of bowling more seriously is moving my pinky finger closer to my ring finger to help increase my rev rate. I have dainty wrists, and this has helped me tremendously.
The best tip i can think of is to get comfortable / balanced at your finish position. Foul line drills helped me the most, gradually adding an additional step in the approach (0, 1, 2, 3 then 4 step for me) until youre doing a full approach. Helped my balance all the way through approaching and shot up my consistency
Hey there! Great video! I've been thinking about going 2 handed to alleviate stress on my wrist. Can't bowl comfortably 1 handed even after surgery. I'm 60 but not ready to give up the game! Would you think 2 handed would be less stressful on it? Just asking for a gut feel or opinion. Thanks!
Thanks for the tip involving the speed because the speed difference between my first ball shot and my spare shooting are totally different. I spare more than strike but I want my strike shot to be the same speed as my spare shot
Best tip I ever got was to slow my approach and release down I was leaving alot of splits and it helped me tremendously I've been seriously bowling for about 4 months now started out at a 140 average I'm now up to 170 average always working to improve and trying new and different things
By far the worst tip I've ever received was keeping my hand under the ball, because nobody ever showed me what that meant, and because of that I'd end up throwing 600 rpm with zero accuracy, once I saw a demonstration everything clicked, it's about trading revs for control, maybe I'm throwing 500 rpm now, but I'm hitting my mark 75% more often than I used to There's also the tip I learned from watching PBA Finals, which is to keep your arm bent, thats where the speed comes from, people always told me "yoyo motion" "like you're reaching out to shake my hand" none of that made sense to me until I saw it for myself, then I tried it out in practice and I went from 11mph to 13.5mph immediately, which increased my strike percentage greatly and resulted in my high game going from a 151 to a 195 in about two weeks These are by far the two greatest tips in bowling, but they need to be demonstrated against what an amateur is doing, else they get confused and simply won't understand what you're saying
Thanks for this, I did a few frames worth of the drill in my practice this week and instantly felt my release get better. If you see this there are two other topics I think would be great to cover. One, I seem to generate a lot more forward spin rather than side spin, and I'm wondering what I can do to fix that or how to adjust to shape my spin axis differently. Two, how do you know when your fit is wrong? Mine has always felt off but I'm not sure if that's just how it's supposed to feel
Thank you for these. I will tell ya, my ball speed over the last few months has sky-rocketed....and that means nearly every ball I have has become too weak. I went from about 14.5mph..which is where I drilled at....to just over 17mph. Those same balls just don't seem to hook like they did..even with the revs up. When I slow it down to 15 or so they come alive...but man...that's harder to do now lol. So..... I give my balls away to the kids at my center learning to bowl or wanting to up their game a little from house balls. The #1 thing for that really spiked my speeds was keeping my body in line...keeping the ball and my arm close to my body and part of that center of gravity through the swing. Before, my arm was out and sometimes a chicken wing... With everything in line and balanced like Packy said, your speed goes up and with much less effort to do it. As for cupping the ball....this was probably my MOST SIGNIFICANT change a few months back. It actually helped to keep the ball in line with my approach and it made me more accurate and consistent..as well as adding plenty more revs. I went from averaging in the 171 range to finishing my 35wk sanctioned at 186 and 190....with my last 3 months averaging over 200 each month in both leagues.
Do you change the height you are holding the ball in your setup to match the change in foot speed/tempo? I was taught to hold the ball lower in my setup to shorten my swing to match the increase in foot speed as well as to hold the ball higher to lengthen my swing to match my slower tempo. The thinking is that a shortened swing takes less time to complete and a longer swing takes more time.
Hey can you make a video about how you bowl on house like targeting, foot work, and adjustments when it’s fresh to when it’s dry? And then make a second part on how you bowl on a sport shot and give advice on certain adjustments like hand position targeting and how you mentally ready yourself when bowling on tour ?
One thing that I learned on my own is if I want to increase my rev rate a little bit, is just before I start moving, I will take my ball and turn it right to left and it changes the angle and position of my fingers. If I want to decrease it and have fingers come out flatter, I'll move left to right. I'll move left to right if I'm playing up the edge or if there is carry down.
Hi! Young bowler, a tip I found really helpful that has got me to 17.5 MPH consistently is to let the ball roll of the corner of my hand like at the knuckle of your pointer finger, other than that it’s a lot of footwork and timing that are nitty gritty
What really helped me was just watching someone bowling he opened up his hand in the Swinging position and that changed my whole game now I feel like just having the right ball for the lane conditions and a little adjustment on the transitionI can throw a 50 year old bowling ball I’m kind of a dry condition and that bar will act like a urethane type of bowling ball
Not sure if it increases power, but it really helped me to round out my push-away, and not have so much of an out-and-then-down motion, and more of a rounded, less hurky jerky motion. Hat tip to Brad and Kyle for that one!
Yeah. My RPMs went up by nearly 100 when I held the ball lower and had a rounded pushaway. I have that B&K video to thank for that as well. Can't wait to see how I can apply that same thing when I go 2-handed next year.
I am a one-handed/right-handed bowler who uses a handshake release cause I find that a heck of a lot more comfortable. I can also classify myself as a 100% self-taught bowler. What tips do you have for somebody like me?
Another thing I will say about the speed, I used to throw around 18-18.5. I had neck surgery back in August and my body won't go much more over 17.5 now. I don't ever try to go above that. I had to adjust to the lower ball speed by learning how to slow my feet down yet maintain my high rev rate. My perfect speed now is 17.0-17.2. I guess getting older sucks.
Best tip I ever received is to pay attention to the ball motion and don’t fight it! You know your fundamentals are sound when your not straining or fighting during the throw and the ball is hitting your line constantly.
The best tip I got was in juniors by one of the adult scratch bowlers and that was using a two target system, looking at my mark in the heads and picking another down lane, usually the arrows and when I need to loft the heads my second target was a bit passed the arrows. This was in the short oil era and worked well in the the new “ 3 unit system of bowling “ that came out in the early 90’s by ABC.
Any tips to increase ball speed (even a little) when you can't really use your legs much? Due to back and knee injuries, I had to move 2/3 of the way up on the approach and use short steps (staying centered to avoid pain). The result is my ball speed dropped from just over 18 mph to below 13, but I still have 400+ revs on the ball. The only solution I have currently found was throwing plastic balls with weight blocks. My current arsenal is a KR Strikeforce Clear Rose, a Pyramid Pathogen Blue Dot, 2 Radical Spys, a T-Zone, and a Pyramid Urethane Pathogen Plague X (for heavy oil conditions)
I was always told to hold the ball higher on your approach which would force you to speed up your arm swing. Will try this technique. I wish my house would display the speed on the screen to help
Packy as a 2 hander has an advantage with having long arms, he has a longer swing than other 2 handers. I was basically a 1 handed 2 hander, I was so under the ball and a short back swing that some thought I didn't use a thumb which I did. This was back in the late 70's.
I went 2 handed a couple months ago. A major problem I have is that my release is incredibly weak. I'm can only throw it at 10-11 mph compared to 15-16 when I bowl one handed. After looking at how I'm holding my ball, I am not cupping the ball and holding it straight. I'm going to practice a bit with cupping and seeing how things go.
me and my friend bowled for 3 hours yesterday and noticed the decline in speed. something I started playing with was my push away at the start of the movement and pushing the ball out further and walking onto the ball as it dropped. reducing all muscle effort. it gave me an extra 2 km.
As a coach, I pressed the USBC to put out some real teaching together for the 2 handed style but for years… crickets. This could be BIG money creating a serious 2 handed channel focusing on exactly what this video is all about.
I was one of the first in 95 I found moving my feet at start little half step to start approach early gave me more forward momentum which increased my speed and accuracy and let me stay straight and outside longer 😊
I am a 2 finger-1 handed bowler and I am always having trouble controlling where my ball goes do the lane. I'm always looking at the arrows ( that is where I feel most comfortable looking at) to throw my ball at, but it hardly ever goes where I want it to go. Any tips on how I can get better at it?
my tip would be if you get hurt take the time to heal and don't Rush back into bowling even if it drives you crazy .i used my down time to help other bowlers with things i have learned from packy .
I just started trying to learn to bowl two-handed. The best tip I received (earlier today) was that I was releasing the ball too early (at the lowest point of the swing), that I should release it just after, as my hand starts going up through the back of the ball. The difference in speed and revs was immediately apparent.
one of the things to help with that is maintaining your wrist to be cuffed throughout your entire swing and release (when u release, it will uncuff naturally)
Here is one thing I am complicating. instead of moving left if you ball goes too far left or right if you ball don't go far enough left or adjust loft as a right handier. I think adjust more or less forward roll. stay in the same spot & adjust more or less forward roll over side roll. have the same revs & speed just more forward roll vs side-wards roll. angle is EVERYTHING! a ball even a 6lb ball slow 7MPH will strike but how often? a mostly forward rolled ball is like a steam roller. Darren Tang does it good when he decides to throw it straight into the pins. I seen him get over 230 that way. I'm not sure what my high games were in the summer because I bowl in NO-TAP9, NO-TAP8 & NO-TAP7. I know I got four 900 series in a row or 12 Three hundereds in a row well almost I screwed my last ball up in the 10th frame of my 12th 300 in a row under NO-TAP7 where you can leave up to 3 pins for s strike! I do this to practice MORE ON MY STRIKE BALL then the pick up ball NOT the high scores. it does show mu endurance though!
Am I understanding correctly, you don't get the rotation from flipping you wrist from palm up to palm left, you get it from uncapping (dropping) your hand down?
Love your tips packy and thank you for helping me to increase the spee/power bcs ihve lot of trouble to increase my speed . Now I just need to train increase my speed and my balance as well , love from Malaysia 🔥🔥🔥🔥
My best tip that always helps me in league and tournaments is to simplify my shot. Start right aim right and keep right unless I NEED to move past the center point of the lane. It’ll make your game look effortless and it will feel that way too.
My high game I bowled in summer 2006 it was my/our 18th game I was bowling a 75 year old at the time we bowled 30 games each every Sunday only during Free bowling in the summer. it was a 299 I couldn't take the pressure of that prefect game. I was using the rainbow ball 12lbs. the lanes changed to the way I was throwing the ball & it never happened like that again!
Hey Packy how do I go from 1 hand to 2 Hands? I am older bowler, and i tried throw 2 hands. I been watching the video to throwing 2 hands I have my problems with 2 hands. What advice can you give to me? I am lefty like you.
From what I've seen from various bowling channels on here, I'd say it depends on what patterns you expect to bowl on. My understanding is that if you're bowling primarily on house shots reactive will usually be better for you than urethane. If you want to break into the tournament scene, a urethane ball would be a good investment, although ball #2 may or may not be the ideal time to get it. A few more options in reactive balls with some different motions may do you better for now.
Best tip I can relate back which I found out for my own game is if there's unpredictability in the front half of the lane I use alot of knee bend and a touch more speed and that helps me get the ball down and out of the unpredictability part, proof was my last league game 1 was 140 game 2 was 207 (Lofting isn't something I can do with consistency yet)
Just tonight by buddy reminded me to stay square, and I am thankful that he saved my game. Was looking at my worst night in 3 months before he noticed.
Best tip i got as a two hander (besides this video) was to "take a shorter first step" My first step was always really long and while it helped me move faster, it led to my push/slide to be really short and weak. I'd feel the ball flying off my hand only to see 14-15mph. I started taking a shorter first step and it's given me way more room to slide, as well as helped with my pacing. Because of that I can hit 15.5 - 16mph. Hopefully after this vid, I can get to 16.5+ mph.
I have the exact and I mean EXACT same problem. I have incredibly short legs so if I take big steps I lose a lot of ball speed. Makes sense too, cuz when you do sprints you don't want your steps to be long. You want them to be fast so you can maintain energy. When I throw it with two hands, I need to straight up sprint to the foul line in order to hit the 14.5mph mark.
I'm going two handed next year so I'll definitely remember to keep that first step as short as possible. Might go back to four step approach too, since five steps slowed me down as a one handed bowler.
i’m so happy you found it useful people love to 😊😊😊😊😊
Appreciate you sharing this info. I’m
Going to make some adjustments today based on it 👌
The best tip I've received as a two-hander, and it has really helped with my balance, is to ALWAYS focus that my slide feet arrive first and then release. It may only be a matter of milliseconds, but it truly makes a world of difference. When I consistently have the mindset of prioritizing my footwork over releases, it's incredible how everything falls into place. Delayed Timing it’s the key.
Thank you guys for all of the positive comments, and for sharing the best tips you've ever received!
Best tip I got for rev rate was keeping my bowling arms forehand in contact with the ball until release. Not sure why but I always assumed I WAS cupping the ball but couldn’t get revs, that simple cue helped.
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These videos, hope to see lots more tips and how-to’s. Really appreciate them as a new bowler!
Excellent job Packy. Well explained, demonstrated, and summarized.
Right about to go to practice, can't wait to work on this stuff tonight!
Thanks Packy! I've watched lots of instructional videos. Yours are awesome! You are relaxed and comfortable while sharing your great sense of humor.
~old guy learning two handed
Learning to properly apply and time hip-shoulder separation changed everything for me with regard to speed. It's a huge component of velocity in just about all throwing sports and many bowlers use it without even realizing it.
Do you have some tips for practicing this?
GREAT vid Packy!! Very well demonstrated and explained…A++
Best tip I ever got was to not start so far in at the beginning of league/tournament sets. It was uncomfortable at first playing closer to the gutter than I ever have, but once I got comfortable, my average has went up and definitely got higher since then!
@Packy
This is one of the better videos you've produced. Excellent information.
My biggest issue is staying consistent with revs/release. I feel like this will help quite a bit.
These are such good tips. I find my practice sessions are always bowled on super difficult, super dry (burnt up) conditions (Sunday morning, go figure!) so your tip to try start further back on the approach and walk in faster makes so much sense.
Great video. Tip 1 is what I've been working on. Speed isn't an issue for me as I have too much at times. I just need to get my Rev rate up.
Same. Speed is definitely not my issue. I took video of myself and realized how NOT under the ball I am. Working on it.
Best tip I ever got was to keep my butt down when releasing the ball. My PSO said this to me as a passing comment one night at league and it keeps me in balance when throwing shots. 2nd best was from my teammate one night when I was missing a bunch of easy spares. He told me I was short arming my spare shots. since he told me that and I started following through my spare percentage has gone up considerably.
Following through on spare shots is a game changer. I also short-armed my spares (and sometimes still do) but my accuracy is so much better when I follow through.
Thanks Packy! There's not enough videos out there like this to really break it down like you have. Can't wait to try it on the lanes.
Great explanation. One of your best instructional videos
Very nice explanation Packy! Love these kind of educational videos!
Best bowling tip I ever got was that there are no definites in bowling. It's all situational and experience. Exploring hand positions and checking the track, increasing steps, longer back swing and what it does to your game, etc...all are to create more tools to use. Basically teaching me versatility.
This is so well explained and helpful. Thank you Packy I'll take notes of this👌🏼
Awesome video Packy great stuff!
A tip my coach gave me was to not worry about what the other guy is doing.
I release the ball three boards from the gutter. When he saw me do that he told me it’s good to not think about what other might not do. If it’s working and if you can do it consistently. Do it.
thanks Patrick, great video as always.
been bowling two handed for 3 years now. Some days are good, some are bad. I kept trying to replicate all the top two handers release and form. My form is similar to Chris Via. One small thing i did to fix my release and approach and help tremendously with consistency was keep my wrist cuff as much as i can. From the back swing all the way to my release. If u keep it cuff, you will get under and behind the ball. U lose some power and speed but with practice, u will pick those back up in no time. give it a shot next time u go practice. Just mainly focus on keeping your wrist cuffed even upon release.
Most helpful tip was as soon as you think “I should change balls” or “maybe I should move?” Do It!
You’re going to be right way more often than you’re wrong so not immediately changing will cost you pins in the long run.
Great vid Packy. I've been working on using my legs more. As a 1 handed no thumb bowler I found my wrist and forearm getting tired after 6+ games. But bringing my legs into it has helped take the strain off my wrist and arm. Deffo gunna try a few different hand positions tho. Keep up the great work all of you at house bowling. A special shout out to the Camera person. ❤
The video I was literally just looking for, timing could have never been more perfect. Thanks for the tips packy!
I have struggled for so long with my rev rate and power. Many years ago I bowled 1 handed and would whip the ball about 17-18 mph every shot. I switched to 2 handed about 2 years ago and carried my slower ball speed that i got too when I was 1 hand which is about 14.5-low 15 which I don't care for. I have wanted to increase my rev rate and speed and this has been the best video that I have seen. It gives me the drive to practice as much as I can with the best knowledge I can get
Yeah, I think ball speed is a common issue for those that swap. I see a few in my league that just don't get their feet going quick enough.
Great Video Packy keep up the great vids and the great bowling you’ve been doing
Best tip I can give is record yourself. Especially when your having a bad day. Most likely a small mistake is something your making with your physical game. Bc we don’t practice and drill as much as pros. We’re susceptible to things like not staying down on your shot, having your balance arm move to much or rolling your shoulder forward etc etc. Recording yourself and posting it online or sending it to a coach can really be valuable.
Great tips!! I’ve increased speed by 1.5 mph over the last month with great results and like you said with speeding up my footwork. Now I just need to work on cupping my wrist better.
These tip vids are always great
Good teaching video. My one handed speed is about 12mph. Anything faster results in a challenging split.(big four or 7&10). I don't curve because my injured spine from an old car accident doesn't produce the needed back swing. Nevertheless, I enjoy easy spares or 8-9 opens. Keep up the good work and enjoy bowling. (I should try candlepin or duck pin. You throw full speed with a small 2 or 3 pound ball and there's no oil ) Thanks.
Thank you for this video! I'll be practicing this for sure! The best tip I have in my short time of bowling more seriously is moving my pinky finger closer to my ring finger to help increase my rev rate. I have dainty wrists, and this has helped me tremendously.
The best tip i can think of is to get comfortable / balanced at your finish position. Foul line drills helped me the most, gradually adding an additional step in the approach (0, 1, 2, 3 then 4 step for me) until youre doing a full approach. Helped my balance all the way through approaching and shot up my consistency
Well explained, THX .
Awesome video Packy. My favorite part was watching the Hammer Black Widow 2.0 Hybrid!!! I gotta get me one.
Happy belated birthday and thank you for the detailed explanation/breakdown of each tip given ♨️
Good advice, good luck in the next tournament.
Hey there! Great video! I've been thinking about going 2 handed to alleviate stress on my wrist. Can't bowl comfortably 1 handed even after surgery. I'm 60 but not ready to give up the game! Would you think 2 handed would be less stressful on it? Just asking for a gut feel or opinion. Thanks!
Excellent advice thank you 😊
Thanks for the tip involving the speed because the speed difference between my first ball shot and my spare shooting are totally different. I spare more than strike but I want my strike shot to be the same speed as my spare shot
Best tip I ever got was to slow my approach and release down I was leaving alot of splits and it helped me tremendously I've been seriously bowling for about 4 months now started out at a 140 average I'm now up to 170 average always working to improve and trying new and different things
By far the worst tip I've ever received was keeping my hand under the ball, because nobody ever showed me what that meant, and because of that I'd end up throwing 600 rpm with zero accuracy, once I saw a demonstration everything clicked, it's about trading revs for control, maybe I'm throwing 500 rpm now, but I'm hitting my mark 75% more often than I used to
There's also the tip I learned from watching PBA Finals, which is to keep your arm bent, thats where the speed comes from, people always told me "yoyo motion" "like you're reaching out to shake my hand" none of that made sense to me until I saw it for myself, then I tried it out in practice and I went from 11mph to 13.5mph immediately, which increased my strike percentage greatly and resulted in my high game going from a 151 to a 195 in about two weeks
These are by far the two greatest tips in bowling, but they need to be demonstrated against what an amateur is doing, else they get confused and simply won't understand what you're saying
Good stuff Packy, good stuff!
Thanks for this, I did a few frames worth of the drill in my practice this week and instantly felt my release get better. If you see this there are two other topics I think would be great to cover. One, I seem to generate a lot more forward spin rather than side spin, and I'm wondering what I can do to fix that or how to adjust to shape my spin axis differently. Two, how do you know when your fit is wrong? Mine has always felt off but I'm not sure if that's just how it's supposed to feel
This is still a awesome video and we’d love more of these as well
Thank you for these. I will tell ya, my ball speed over the last few months has sky-rocketed....and that means nearly every ball I have has become too weak. I went from about 14.5mph..which is where I drilled at....to just over 17mph. Those same balls just don't seem to hook like they did..even with the revs up. When I slow it down to 15 or so they come alive...but man...that's harder to do now lol. So..... I give my balls away to the kids at my center learning to bowl or wanting to up their game a little from house balls.
The #1 thing for that really spiked my speeds was keeping my body in line...keeping the ball and my arm close to my body and part of that center of gravity through the swing. Before, my arm was out and sometimes a chicken wing... With everything in line and balanced like Packy said, your speed goes up and with much less effort to do it. As for cupping the ball....this was probably my MOST SIGNIFICANT change a few months back. It actually helped to keep the ball in line with my approach and it made me more accurate and consistent..as well as adding plenty more revs. I went from averaging in the 171 range to finishing my 35wk sanctioned at 186 and 190....with my last 3 months averaging over 200 each month in both leagues.
Do you change the height you are holding the ball in your setup to match the change in foot speed/tempo? I was taught to hold the ball lower in my setup to shorten my swing to match the increase in foot speed as well as to hold the ball higher to lengthen my swing to match my slower tempo. The thinking is that a shortened swing takes less time to complete and a longer swing takes more time.
Hey can you make a video about how you bowl on house like targeting, foot work, and adjustments when it’s fresh to when it’s dry? And then make a second part on how you bowl on a sport shot and give advice on certain adjustments like hand position targeting and how you mentally ready yourself when bowling on tour ?
Cool tech bowling bowling the house bowling packy
One thing that I learned on my own is if I want to increase my rev rate a little bit, is just before I start moving, I will take my ball and turn it right to left and it changes the angle and position of my fingers. If I want to decrease it and have fingers come out flatter, I'll move left to right. I'll move left to right if I'm playing up the edge or if there is carry down.
Hi! Young bowler, a tip I found really helpful that has got me to 17.5 MPH consistently is to let the ball roll of the corner of my hand like at the knuckle of your pointer finger, other than that it’s a lot of footwork and timing that are nitty gritty
What really helped me was just watching someone bowling he opened up his hand in the
Swinging position and that changed my whole game now I feel like just having the right ball for the lane conditions and a little adjustment on the transitionI can throw a 50 year old bowling ball I’m kind of a dry condition and that bar will act like a urethane type of bowling ball
Not sure if it increases power, but it really helped me to round out my push-away, and not have so much of an out-and-then-down motion, and more of a rounded, less hurky jerky motion. Hat tip to Brad and Kyle for that one!
Yeah. My RPMs went up by nearly 100 when I held the ball lower and had a rounded pushaway. I have that B&K video to thank for that as well. Can't wait to see how I can apply that same thing when I go 2-handed next year.
Which video are you referring to?
@@misterrniceguy101 The link is here:
th-cam.com/video/t9krKffgA6U/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=BradandKyle
Yep, that one is huge for a number of reasons
@@garvin9939 Which one?? :D
Really need this video thank you!
I am a one-handed/right-handed bowler who uses a handshake release cause I find that a heck of a lot more comfortable. I can also classify myself as a 100% self-taught bowler. What tips do you have for somebody like me?
What's your recommended ball weight for a beginner learning the 2 handed bowling?
Great tips!
Another thing I will say about the speed, I used to throw around 18-18.5. I had neck surgery back in August and my body won't go much more over 17.5 now. I don't ever try to go above that. I had to adjust to the lower ball speed by learning how to slow my feet down yet maintain my high rev rate. My perfect speed now is 17.0-17.2. I guess getting older sucks.
Best tip I ever received is to pay attention to the ball motion and don’t fight it! You know your fundamentals are sound when your not straining or fighting during the throw and the ball is hitting your line constantly.
I just bought the black widow 2.0 and he used this ball to demonstrate. Couldn’t be more perfect
The best tip I got was in juniors by one of the adult scratch bowlers and that was using a two target system, looking at my mark in the heads and picking another down lane, usually the arrows and when I need to loft the heads my second target was a bit passed the arrows. This was in the short oil era and worked well in the the new “ 3 unit system of bowling “ that came out in the early 90’s by ABC.
Any tips to increase ball speed (even a little) when you can't really use your legs much? Due to back and knee injuries, I had to move 2/3 of the way up on the approach and use short steps (staying centered to avoid pain). The result is my ball speed dropped from just over 18 mph to below 13, but I still have 400+ revs on the ball.
The only solution I have currently found was throwing plastic balls with weight blocks. My current arsenal is a KR Strikeforce Clear Rose, a Pyramid Pathogen Blue Dot, 2 Radical Spys, a T-Zone, and a Pyramid Urethane Pathogen Plague X (for heavy oil conditions)
I was always told to hold the ball higher on your approach which would force you to speed up your arm swing. Will try this technique. I wish my house would display the speed on the screen to help
Packy as a 2 hander has an advantage with having long arms, he has a longer swing than other 2 handers. I was basically a 1 handed 2 hander, I was so under the ball and a short back swing that some thought I didn't use a thumb which I did. This was back in the late 70's.
Great video 🎉🎉
nice video, thank you
I went 2 handed a couple months ago. A major problem I have is that my release is incredibly weak. I'm can only throw it at 10-11 mph compared to 15-16 when I bowl one handed. After looking at how I'm holding my ball, I am not cupping the ball and holding it straight. I'm going to practice a bit with cupping and seeing how things go.
The Tom Daugherty drill is a life saver for 2-handers!
Something I always wanted to know, for you what your “normal” sequence of adjustments you make?
me and my friend bowled for 3 hours yesterday and noticed the decline in speed. something I started playing with was my push away at the start of the movement and pushing the ball out further and walking onto the ball as it dropped. reducing all muscle effort. it gave me an extra 2 km.
Great tips Packy. Hope you do good at the US OPEN! :)
As a coach, I pressed the USBC to put out some real teaching together for the 2 handed style but for years… crickets. This could be BIG money creating a serious 2 handed channel focusing on exactly what this video is all about.
which eileens bowling buddy product do you use???
I was one of the first in 95 I found moving my feet at start little half step to start approach early gave me more forward momentum which increased my speed and accuracy and let me stay straight and outside longer 😊
Thank you so much
I am a 2 finger-1 handed bowler and I am always having trouble controlling where my ball goes do the lane. I'm always looking at the arrows ( that is where I feel most comfortable looking at) to throw my ball at, but it hardly ever goes where I want it to go. Any tips on how I can get better at it?
my tip would be if you get hurt take the time to heal and don't Rush back into bowling even if it drives you crazy .i used my down time to help other bowlers with things i have learned from packy .
Do you need shoes with proper slide to slide when releasing the ball
Can't wait to meet you on May 8th!
When you talk about increasing speed, what is a good eventual target speed to try to attain?
Can you do a review on your bowling shoes? Can’t find any vid reviews on TH-cam that would be great!
I know you’re a two hander, but how would a one hander increase rev rate? Do these steps also apply in terms of the Equator of the ball?
The drill with the house ball at the foul line works for one handers also. Rewatch the video.
Yes, you want to be below the equator. This is something I'm working on after taking video of myself and seeing how NOT under the ball I am. 😂
I just started trying to learn to bowl two-handed. The best tip I received (earlier today) was that I was releasing the ball too early (at the lowest point of the swing), that I should release it just after, as my hand starts going up through the back of the ball. The difference in speed and revs was immediately apparent.
one of the things to help with that is maintaining your wrist to be cuffed throughout your entire swing and release (when u release, it will uncuff naturally)
Here is one thing I am complicating. instead of moving left if you ball goes too far left or right if you ball don't go far enough left or adjust loft as a right handier. I think adjust more or less forward roll. stay in the same spot & adjust more or less forward roll over side roll. have the same revs & speed just more forward roll vs side-wards roll. angle is EVERYTHING! a ball even a 6lb ball slow 7MPH will strike but how often? a mostly forward rolled ball is like a steam roller. Darren Tang does it good when he decides to throw it straight into the pins. I seen him get over 230 that way. I'm not sure what my high games were in the summer because I bowl in NO-TAP9, NO-TAP8 & NO-TAP7. I know I got four 900 series in a row or 12 Three hundereds in a row well almost I screwed my last ball up in the 10th frame of my 12th 300 in a row under NO-TAP7 where you can leave up to 3 pins for s strike! I do this to practice MORE ON MY STRIKE BALL then the pick up ball NOT the high scores. it does show mu endurance though!
Am I understanding correctly, you don't get the rotation from flipping you wrist from palm up to palm left, you get it from uncapping (dropping) your hand down?
Love your tips packy and thank you for helping me to increase the spee/power bcs ihve lot of trouble to increase my speed . Now I just need to train increase my speed and my balance as well , love from Malaysia 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Is it ok if I use a house ball instead of my normal ball?
A huge part of the release is that elbow extension at the bottom. Entending the elbow out to the target increases accuracy and rev rate.
He has the widow 2.0 hybrid!!! Looks so good.
My best tip that always helps me in league and tournaments is to simplify my shot. Start right aim right and keep right unless I NEED to move past the center point of the lane. It’ll make your game look effortless and it will feel that way too.
Packy, on the wrist cup. Is the wrist straight + cupped or cocked and cupped?
My high game I bowled in summer 2006 it was my/our 18th game I was bowling a 75 year old at the time we bowled 30 games each every Sunday only during Free bowling in the summer. it was a 299 I couldn't take the pressure of that prefect game. I was using the rainbow ball 12lbs. the lanes changed to the way I was throwing the ball & it never happened like that again!
Hey Packy how do I go from 1 hand to 2 Hands? I am older bowler, and i tried throw 2 hands. I been watching the video to throwing 2 hands I have my problems with 2 hands. What advice can you give to me? I am lefty like you.
Is it better to use the heaviest ball or is there a range of weight u should stay within haven’t been bowling long
people of the house. im wanting to buy my second bowling ball should i get the purple hammer reactive or the urithane?
From what I've seen from various bowling channels on here, I'd say it depends on what patterns you expect to bowl on. My understanding is that if you're bowling primarily on house shots reactive will usually be better for you than urethane. If you want to break into the tournament scene, a urethane ball would be a good investment, although ball #2 may or may not be the ideal time to get it. A few more options in reactive balls with some different motions may do you better for now.
as a 2 handed lefty, i have a problem with over loft, any general tips to reduce loft?
Best tip I can relate back which I found out for my own game is if there's unpredictability in the front half of the lane I use alot of knee bend and a touch more speed and that helps me get the ball down and out of the unpredictability part, proof was my last league game 1 was 140 game 2 was 207
(Lofting isn't something I can do with consistency yet)
Just tonight by buddy reminded me to stay square, and I am thankful that he saved my game. Was looking at my worst night in 3 months before he noticed.
Relaxing arm/elbow in downswing was a game changer.