The jails in Canada have menus for the inmates. They serve steak,pork tenderloin, shrimp and lobster, fried chicken, bacon and eggs with home fries, coffee and all the fresh fruit and salads you can eat. You can have a computer or tablet in your cell to lay and watch movies or shows all day. You can get a college or university degree free of charge. Many immigrants can't believe it and some will commit crimes to get in there.
I've been in (Dutch) prison for killing someone. A guy who I totally didn't know, but he decided to go to different houses, claim to be from the housing company and asked to come in for some work. At my moms house she saw him with her purse and when she asked him what he was doing he beat her up. By pure chance I decided to visit her that day, at that time, and when I entered the flat, he had already done it, he actually passed me in the hallway as he was leaving, so when I found my mom, still alive, I called the cops, and told them to find him before I did, if not he would be dead. About 20 minutes later he was, I had run him over with my car about 7 times. Called the police and that was it. Got to prison, 12 years, but here when you go to prison and you behave you get out after 2/3 of your time, and I did. 8 years later (last year) I was released. No idea why I felt compelled to tell this story, I just did :)
It's very brave to share your story. I'm sorry that happened to your mother. You don't have to answer this but I wonder if people who have killed worry that they might do it again? In the same situation do you think about whether you'd snap again? I study psychology and criminal justice so I have to much curiosity.
USA, is brutal to its prisoners, 23 hours in a windowless cell that has gray walls.When this prisoner is released, he or she has become insane, US prison is a true torture chamber.
He's a Welshman with no Welsh accent supporting against England wearing a Glasgow Rangers shirt, he needs a life sentence just to figure out who the hell he is!!!!!, and I find it ironic, that "hating" England, came back to haunt him, imagine if England had won, he would not be as "party crazy minded"
it used to be the people were better, the blacks weren't slaves but from the colonies, they of course had it harder, the white people had a sense of natural justice, even the poorer ones, there was a lot of work put in to better things for everyone, and for a while the outlook was bright. it is changing now, it is getting much more violent, the worst are the young black kids killing young black kids. I sometimes wonder if it is genetic. That is not a racist comment, they really are much more into hard violence and gangs than the young white kids.
JordanLKN87 are you talking from experience of what you think you saw on tv or your iPad? Because I can tell you some American facilities are nicer than this.
What I like about some prisons in Europe it’s actually about rehabilitating these people while in America we learn more about crime for when we get out drugs are more available inside than on the streets
The guy in prison for killing his adulteress wife with a man coming to see her, has a legit reason for snapping and killing her. She should have left him and his money, and then found a boyfriend. Many people could snap in this situation. Back in the day adultery got you and your fling stoned. Not saying he was right, but to snap, i could see it happening. God bless.
Aunt Melisa, if you like prison documentaries, check out those in Haiti, Africa, South America, etc...the USA is a country club compared to those there! Between the weather, disease due to water/food/insects/rodents, corruption, etc, the USA definitely has the advantage in Stark contrast! I agree that the UK looks like club med compared to most in the US, but I'll take one in America any day over ANY 3rd world country's prison. Even worse is the fact that MANY prisoners in those countries have somewhat minor infractions, or even moreso are INNOCENT! But due to corruption, disorganization (check out Haiti's prisons), improperly staffed systems, etc, these innocent/minor infraction charged inmates do not receive due process and sit in there to rot and die. Those poor souls I pray for...at least here they are protected from the elements, receive 3 squares a day, have a bed, and receive medical treatment. The inmates in the UK and US are not there because the Hilton was booked, they committed heinous acts most of them. Some of those in other countries that I mentioned are doing 15 years for stealing a sack of potatoes! And every single one of them have to struggle each day to merely survive until the next day. My heart goes out to those.
@reten Geten American culture itself are obsessed with violance, and sexuality is oppressed for gaining hate in mens and build war meat for "democracy" in iraq or afghanistan. In USA you get more years in prison for accidentaly touching womens ass instead of smashing someone jaw
Seriously, this aint a bad way to do time. The place I been locked up were disgusting hellholes compared to this place, and I wasn't even in any high security lockups. The US has 5% of earths population but 20% of its incarcerated prisoners, that's really out of whack.
David that murdered his wife, I honestly understand how that happened. Its why when its over (a relationship) its over, get away from each other, move somewhere else and live your lives. Don't bring your new boyfriend home to meet your husband you live with, and ask him for money to pay for the date. what did you think was going to happen? this is why if they don't love you, its time for them or you to leave. Sell the house, split the money, and go your own ways. that Home brewing, that is some scary stuff, you would smell it for miles when they released the gas. easy enough to make your own yeast (basically sourdough starter) and yeah, it could easily get to 12-15 % in strength, so 2 bottles would get a 100kg man drunk.
Big time idiot. Irrational Welsh hatred of the English too, as if every English person is born with a certain attitude. We're the same race. Goofy cunt.
I've lived in a maximum security prison for five years, in Georgia. Compared to Georgia, this prison is like summer camp. Fabric softener, video games... 😂
I worked in a rehab in England for four years. I was working with a 19 year old kid who wanted to go out and commit a crime so he could play video games with his friends in jail... I still haven't totally gotten over it. He went out and torched his parents house, with them still in it, they got out fortunately. His father was a judge, pure karma in my book.
I don't care how well a prison may look on film, the reality is doing a long stretch time stands still your always looking with eyes in the back of your head. It really changes your soul even after you get out life is different. Strangeways in 1990 was not a nice place to be. Just very grateful that the 5 years i spent locked up my life has moved on in a very positive way. Like the lifer i got to know he said "when you leave those gates keep your eyes straight and not be tempted to look back" I took his advise.
Good documentary. The toughest prison I think I ever saw though was the black dolphin prison in Siberia..with enormous White shepard dogs keeping the prisoners in line. Now that prison was no joke !
@Be WereWolf Yes, that's why they are used in harsh Siberian prisons like this. These dogs also protect livestock from Wolves. Massive dogs they are ! All the best.
Ya know the amount of time these prisoners face its insane.. it really goes over your head. They throw these numbers around "30 years 9 years 12 years" and 9 years almost sounds like nothing at all. I just spent 85 days in county and every. single. day. Feels like an eternity.
The differences between US prisons & prisons in the UK are like day & night.....comfortable/choice of clothes, smoking cigarettes ,using Xacto knives for wood carving ,video games single cell living/holding,the list goes on ....US prisons [especially for aggravated/violent criminals] are VASTLY different !!
Remorse would be if you killed your best friend in an argument, but if you really hated someone, and you killed them, they must be the guys who show no remorse.
That black guy talking about he'll be out When he's 52 only talking about stuff he can't do and how his birds can get it on and he can't and how he'll be out when he's 52. Not a f****** lick of remorse in this guy for beating someone to death. I hope he has to serve every single second of his sentence and is denied parole.
The person who murdered my 6 year old son was released after 8years. The parole board talk SHIT. A deportation order gives the parole board an excuse to release them knowing that no way they can refafend in this country.
Wow! It’s like these guys committed murder and yet it seems like they all get rewarded in prison with 3 meals a day, video games, billiards, exercise, pet birds, education, and very comfortable sleeping quarters. Mind blowing
But once you are released you are on parole for the rest of your life. You have to be surpervised Live at a permanent address. Cannot leave the country or area without permission. Not commit any unacceptable behavour or certain offense while on parole. And have to meet with your probation officer once in a while.
Exactly this is insane! Hopefully the family members got their own form of justice when they get out because this was no punishment. They don't even serve a full life, it's absurd.
One guy says he does not regret what he did because he received all sorts of qualifications while locked up. Not a good idea to give people incentives to commit a crime. I would do great in that prison because all I like to do is lay around and watch tv anyway.
Really! Free university, rec. room, curtains and rugs? Time for arts and crafts? Three meals a day? Budgies!!!! The only drawback I can see is the price of admission---you have to murder someone!
I remember the time I served back in '92 for just a simple B&E (burglary, I think you call it in the UK) and my time in the ohio state men's reformatory wasn't anything like this.This place is civil and the staff treat you like a person and the food,the fuckin food though not fine dining I'm sure is actually food not something that you would question feeding your dog.America needs to sit down with the Minister of prisons and reform this shit system over here because to be quite honest if you warehouse men in over crowded prisons,feed them slop and don't give them any chance at redemption all you're doing is taking a low risk lv 1 or 2 inmate and turning him into a more efficient monster,because man just like any other animal will adapt to his environment.WHen I come out of prison aat 21 I didn't trust anyone,I had anxiety and depression.I had huge anger issues getting into fights constantly and was claustrophobic and didn't like being touched.So in short had it not been for some key players in my life that stuck with me thru thick and thin I might have ended back in the joint with a longer sentence maybe even a whole life sentence or maybe a death sentence.American prisons are where they send nice guys who've made mistakes to become monsters and monsters thrive there unlike UK joints that actually seem to try and help you rebuild yourself.
Watching this after watching so many US prison documentaries, it is astounding to see how different it is. US prisons are clearly designed to punish, UK prisons designed to rehabilitate
Dude, if I were facing prison here in the US I’d kill myself. After this, if I were facing prison in the UK at least they’d treat me like a human being.
The UK penal system is cruel, outdated and spiteful. 0 results regarding re-offending. It's a human factory. Very little rehabilitation due to The System which is Victorian.
This doc is well done. Clearly loosing your freedom is the ultimate punishment for any human being. Committing an act of murder is always heinous, I may not totally agree with allowing these prisoners the amenities they have in their prisons, but I think i understand why they are given these things. Unfortunately here in the USA where our "justice" system profits off of the incarceration of poor black, brown and whites at every level!. Our society has become indifferent to how we treat those in prison, they are fed "food" that is not suitable for human consumption. They are subjected to abuse from c.o's, over crowding, deprivation of water in certain instances, there is a sever lack of training programs, and little to no effort given to actually rehabilitating those who are serving short term or medium term sentences, and when they are thrown back into society we continue to shun them, label them as ex cons, make it supremely difficult for them to find work or even find a place to live, and then are astounded when so many are unable to stay out of prison. At the very least certain countries seemed to have figured out a way to rehabilitate the majority of the prisoners in their respective countries and as such it is proven by recidivism rates. We here in the states have the highest recidivism rate of any country in the world, AND the highest incarceration rate of any country on the planet... think about that!! So a murderer in the UK may appear to have it "easier" than here in the states.. but on the whole, the way a society treats its most "undeserved" or under served can be linked to how much crime both violent and non violent, that country experiences.... I think if we were to model ourselves after Norway.. which has the LOWEST recidivism rate and the LOWEST incarceration rate in the world, we would actually see less crime as a result. They have murders in Norway as well but at a much lower rate than we here in the US. They rank somewhere near the bottom of 192 countries some where around 180 ish, we are closer to 83. By comparison the UK ranks around 163 out of the 192 countries. So we can all scoff at the idea that the murderers in this documentary are treated like human beings despite their crimes, but there is reason to understand why the govts in other countries go that route vs the one we take here. Are we actually trying to be better and reduce crime? Or are we doing nothing more than exacerbating the issue?
Your eyes are open. Were you away a while back, they had to close prisons because of a serious problem, being they didnt have enough prisoners to fill them.
For me the one guy who shouldn't be there is the poor guy that killed his wife! She forced him into it and obviously had no respect for him whatsoever.
I feel the same way. The poor guy was emotionally abused to the point of snapping. As horrible as it may sound, I honestly don’t feel much empathy for his dead wife.
He doesn't DESERVE to be there?! This is why I'm going to one day become a defense attorney. With a fool like you and fools just like you, you'd be easy to manipulate and I'd get my client off. Thank you for this comment.
@@36minutesago7 Come on now mate.......I get comments all the time from you buggers about how guns are ruining America and how can we feel safe ect. I just like to comment on some of the stuff on TH-cam from the Brits. It's not you it's your government. BTW while I'm judging I must agree with the prince's wife's those women are fine from what we see of them. (A bit high maintenance but fine looking broads none the less) cheers from the USA
@@36minutesago7 P.S. Don't get me wrong we are in no way perfect......the Dems are trying to rip this land apart like the "piece loving" imigrants are trying to do over there. Lots of crap isn't perfect here but it's still fun to see what life is like over the pond. This reply is almost 36 mins ago after your post lolol. Cheers.........from the USA
Cigarettes in your cell, walk around freely with no cuffs and have something like an AA meeting with professional therapists/psychiatrists?! Wow! That's nothing like American prisons for lifers!
You should see Norwegian prisons. Prisoners get seperate houses, they live better than most people. Especially Americans, I am so grateful to be born in Western Europe.
Lived in the same town as him (Llandudno) and I 100% agree with your statement, I know him and have spoken to him on several occasions in school and after leaving school, I wrote a comment about him on here several years ago, going to look for it now.
@@Pete-z6e don't call me a dummy, I am simply using an allegorical analogy to let people understand that the people who are in government for the most part have not got our best intentions at heart .
Not all murderers are the same. Life sentence for murder In the UK is mandatory. So they have to make sure they adjust to prison life. Other wise there will be riots. Times have changed. People are more rebellious than decades ago. So prisons have to make up with the times.
Noone wants those killers to live in poor conditions, yet, what we see here is killers living in luxurious and not just living in good condition. I found this is so insulting to relatives' victims.
To those who say that this prison is nicer than american prisons - The uk as a whole is a nicer country. Is it really that hard to put two and two together..?
OZZY is a great artist that little house he’s building out of match sticks for his son is so badass solid I really like it ...💪 you might recall Tommy karate Pitera a convicted Mafia member in the US prison system he is a very very gifted artist google his art work it’s really great stuff And it’s for sale
As an American, I don't know what 'qualifications' are. I Googled it, and it made me more confused :( Here it's broken up; Kindergarten, Elementary School 1-4 th grade, Middle School 5-8th grade and High School 9-12 grade and you're done. Unless you want to go to College and get a degree. It's broken up into fours. Is that what qualifications are? Grades broken up?
So, boyo from North Wales with a scouse accent kills an English guy for no reason and still proclaims his hatred for the English,life for you should mean life..
296 ni kan intese dem i ögonen ma måste ge dem hopp så dessa personer kommer in i omgivningen igen det kan be gro på vad som hänt dessa personer Pra i lugt tempo så förstår då förstår ni dem bättre och kan ge dem förhoppningen till Baka hjälp dem stjälp dem inte hjälpen måste skrr
I love how this prison doesn't treat their inmates like animals in poor quality conditions. Tbh I wouldn't even treat my dogs like some prisons in the us.
@@gnarls4480 I have experienced both there is a huge difference and it is to do with money and what state your in. On same note not all prisons in England were very good especially in the late 80's to early 90's
Many years ago, I had to do a 51 month prison term in the state of Florida. It was for trafficking drugs. No air conditioning at all...ever...in hot and humid swampy Florida! Also, you have to work for free. Usually on a work squad that clears the sides of the highways of weeds with a weed eater. All day. 5 days a week. In the hot ass Florida weather. Only to return to the compound, to a dorm without air conditioning! None of these amenities that they have in the UK. It's so very different. Almost inhumane conditions. It was a miserable experience. However, I got out intact. Moved back to California. Started a business, made a nice life for myself, and have lived a good, law abiding life ever since. I guess it was good, in that it kept me from ever breaking the law again.
11:43 Shawshank Redemption -> the man knows his classics and has a sense of humour. I'm glad the European prison systems are much more humane than the US prison-industrial complex. If only because a lot of these people get released back into society again, you don't want them back in society after being treated like animals.
A hotel room is luxurious, but when covid hit and people couldn't leave a room, including a hotel room with meals brought in, people started to go off their heads.
I didn't know anyone that had that problem. Almost everyone I knew enjoyed getting a paycheck at home while watching TV and playing videogames all day. Sounds like those people had underlying issues that would have happened regardless
How is this prison? It looks like a comfy place where you don't have to work for anything and are free from responsibility... 15 years of your life you get to stay in a place like this while your victim rots in the ground... they will NEVER have the opportunity to live their lives... this is ridiculous...
@Noey Tindol no you have it all wrong, the U.S. prison system IS an absolute joke, they should stop using the words “rehabilitation” and “corrections”. You are seeing a functional prison system in the British model.
Shaun’s brow ridge is like a canopy over his eyes. I wonder if that has anything to do with him being the worthless pill of shit woman killer he is. It’s amazing how they trust that murdering pos serving “life” in prison so much. Dude has smokes, tv, food drink and tools for his woodworking hobby he enjoys in his cell. He beat his blokes head in with a hammer yet he has blades and tools in his cell. They shouldn’t let that woman killer Shaun out!! He will absolutely do it again if he had the chance. Chris’s cell/room is pretty fucking nice for being a murdering pile of shit. Birds, tv and V pillows. Dudes living it up!
Scariest looking person in this documentary is that forensic psychologist
I agree, 😬😳
That seems to be a lot more luxurious than prisons here in the US.
It is for sure thanks for the sub bud got another great UK prison doc on the way
standard boring reaction
Yikez stupid people get caught.
Judge yourselves Americans, not the British.
36minutesAgo - shut your mouth Brit! I dare u to come over hear to the US!
Note to self: make sure if you want to commit a crime do it in the UK 🤣
Note to self learn to hide hooch better
The jails in Canada have menus for the inmates. They serve steak,pork tenderloin, shrimp and lobster, fried chicken, bacon and eggs with home fries, coffee and all the fresh fruit and salads you can eat. You can have a computer or tablet in your cell to lay and watch movies or shows all day. You can get a college or university degree free of charge. Many immigrants can't believe it and some will commit crimes to get in there.
@@mandk6089 Hahaha completely false
No do it in scandinavia
Nah sweden it is man we have punishments of air here
I've been in (Dutch) prison for killing someone. A guy who I totally didn't know, but he decided to go to different houses, claim to be from the housing company and asked to come in for some work. At my moms house she saw him with her purse and when she asked him what he was doing he beat her up.
By pure chance I decided to visit her that day, at that time, and when I entered the flat, he had already done it, he actually passed me in the hallway as he was leaving, so when I found my mom, still alive, I called the cops, and told them to find him before I did, if not he would be dead. About 20 minutes later he was, I had run him over with my car about 7 times. Called the police and that was it.
Got to prison, 12 years, but here when you go to prison and you behave you get out after 2/3 of your time, and I did. 8 years later (last year) I was released.
No idea why I felt compelled to tell this story, I just did :)
Wow that sucks thank for sharing thoe UK prisons are messed up
@@CharlieEdward25 compared to any other country Dutch prisons are hotels.
@@sjcsiba yeah I seen a few of them myself America jail is nothing compared to somewhere like Africa can easily lose ur life in there
It's very brave to share your story. I'm sorry that happened to your mother. You don't have to answer this but I wonder if people who have killed worry that they might do it again? In the same situation do you think about whether you'd snap again? I study psychology and criminal justice so I have to much curiosity.
@@bobbij7089 nice pic ;) lol
That dude has mad skill with the matchsticks
Seems in the UK, they try an honest effort into rehabilitation. Here in the USA, we more or less, warehouse people.
and they make money off of warehousing people.. thats the more insane inhumane and downright criminal part about it
USA, is brutal to its prisoners, 23 hours in a windowless cell that has gray walls.When this prisoner is released, he or she has become insane, US prison is a true torture chamber.
Nick Friend yet people are still compelled to go there!
@@KingLouis420th ....I'd rather live in the jungles of the Congo, Africa than the torturous USA.
Granddad was a prison officer for forty years who told me prison rehabilitates.
"do you feel bad?" "No, cuz I've gotten certified since coming in." Does that answer your question?
which tells the real story, he has no empathy, he is a psychopath..
He's a Welshman with no Welsh accent supporting against England wearing a Glasgow Rangers shirt, he needs a life sentence just to figure out who the hell he is!!!!!, and I find it ironic, that "hating" England, came back to haunt him, imagine if England had won, he would not be as "party crazy minded"
Prisons over there are a hell of alot better. Then in the usa
@Sherri Brawn There are probably homless people in america doing that too. What does that tell you...
Everything in the UK is a hell of a lot better then the USA.
@@sovietninja6865 you are right
it used to be the people were better, the blacks weren't slaves but from the colonies, they of course had it harder, the white people had a sense of natural justice, even the poorer ones, there was a lot of work put in to better things for everyone, and for a while the outlook was bright. it is changing now, it is getting much more violent, the worst are the young black kids killing young black kids. I sometimes wonder if it is genetic. That is not a racist comment, they really are much more into hard violence and gangs than the young white kids.
And? Prison is meant to be a punishment
He said his cell was small and dirty...he’s actually lucky it’s so nice, come see what America’s jails are like.
JordanLKN87 are you talking from experience of what you think you saw on tv or your iPad? Because I can tell you some American facilities are nicer than this.
Yeah, FCI Victorville is a fucking dump.
I guess it would depend on things.....i don't know..
Brent Donhauser good for you. I speak from personal experience having been in 3 different jails and one prison. None of them were nicer than this.
@@j-rock8299 Ooo you tell 'em Jordan !
I love all the Americans in this chat talking about how worse American prisons are. Like it's something to brag about.
“Me cell door is open, Mate. Care to come in and smoke a joint and have a beer?”
What I like about some prisons in Europe it’s actually about rehabilitating these people while in America we learn more about crime for when we get out drugs are more available inside than on the streets
Agreed
That's because America prison system is a pro profit business
The guy in prison for killing his adulteress wife with a man coming to see her, has a legit reason for snapping and killing her. She should have left him and his money, and then found a boyfriend. Many people could snap in this situation. Back in the day adultery got you and your fling stoned. Not saying he was right, but to snap, i could see it happening. God bless.
She stayed with him to use him for his money. Asked him for some money so she can see her bf.
Exactly
British prisons are so nice!! It’s like Disney world compared to America’s prisons
Yeah this is a like an awarded council house - look at the light? And the luxuries! Time to kill indeed.
You're not wrong....
Aunt Melisa, if you like prison documentaries, check out those in Haiti, Africa, South America, etc...the USA is a country club compared to those there! Between the weather, disease due to water/food/insects/rodents, corruption, etc, the USA definitely has the advantage in Stark contrast! I agree that the UK looks like club med compared to most in the US, but I'll take one in America any day over ANY 3rd world country's prison. Even worse is the fact that MANY prisoners in those countries have somewhat minor infractions, or even moreso are INNOCENT! But due to corruption, disorganization (check out Haiti's prisons), improperly staffed systems, etc, these innocent/minor infraction charged inmates do not receive due process and sit in there to rot and die. Those poor souls I pray for...at least here they are protected from the elements, receive 3 squares a day, have a bed, and receive medical treatment. The inmates in the UK and US are not there because the Hilton was booked, they committed heinous acts most of them. Some of those in other countries that I mentioned are doing 15 years for stealing a sack of potatoes! And every single one of them have to struggle each day to merely survive until the next day. My heart goes out to those.
@reten Geten American culture itself are obsessed with violance, and sexuality is oppressed for gaining hate in mens and build war meat for "democracy" in iraq or afghanistan. In USA you get more years in prison for accidentaly touching womens ass instead of smashing someone jaw
thats why america has so many nasty people
These prisoners probably have their own butler, and probably get to go on field trips to go see how tea is made.
mikey4131 , don’t laugh, they probably are!!
Yikez stupid people get caught.
LOLOL ! Omigod that is hilarious
No this is a long term prison we just have half the prisoners America so are budgets are not as stretched meaning better living conditions
😂😂😂
You can tell this is not a United States prison like how much difference it is! Nicer cells, street clothes & SMOKING!!
Maybe if we treated prisoners better, we might have fewer prisoners.
Seriously, this aint a bad way to do time. The place I been locked up were disgusting hellholes compared to this place, and I wasn't even in any high security lockups. The US has 5% of earths population but 20% of its incarcerated prisoners, that's really out of whack.
@@tommethans7827 then again ppl might think such a good place, the only thing you miss is family! Idk mixed feelings about this! Blessings
This was a great video. I wish nothing but the best for everyone that is trying to be a better person. Lot's of luv from the States. 🙏🇺🇸🗽🏴🙏
Thank you and lots of love and respect to you from a Englishman living in Thailand 🇬🇧🇺🇸❤️🙏❤️
David that murdered his wife, I honestly understand how that happened. Its why when its over (a relationship) its over, get away from each other, move somewhere else and live your lives. Don't bring your new boyfriend home to meet your husband you live with, and ask him for money to pay for the date. what did you think was going to happen? this is why if they don't love you, its time for them or you to leave. Sell the house, split the money, and go your own ways. that Home brewing, that is some scary stuff, you would smell it for miles when they released the gas. easy enough to make your own yeast (basically sourdough starter) and yeah, it could easily get to 12-15 % in strength, so 2 bottles would get a 100kg man drunk.
"If I hadn't killed someone I wouldn't have got qualifications" Dear god.
Yeah there is a story in comments about someone who actually grew up with that guy was a twat apparently
I just read this as he was saying it exact moment..wild lol
Big time idiot. Irrational Welsh hatred of the English too, as if every English person is born with a certain attitude. We're the same race. Goofy cunt.
@@CharlieEdward25 That was me, I just came back and watched this video again after god knows how many years but I can't find my original comment.
@@CharlieEdward25 I think that my comment got removed due to TH-cam restrictions, if you want I can write about him and you can pin it.
I've lived in a maximum security prison for five years, in Georgia. Compared to Georgia, this prison is like summer camp.
Fabric softener, video games... 😂
Right!? I cant believe this setup! And this is for "Lifers" !?! Imagine their med security lockups?
Pet birds. WTh! You got sentenced in the wrong country
I've done time in 4 states and Georgia was by far the worst shithole I've ever been to. Hays, Smith and Rutledge were fucking war zones.
I know....I almost fell out when he said that. Wtf? Does he get bird food for his pets? jesus.
@@DumpsterJedi87 Washington State for me, in davisboro.
Damn, the box he made was actually pretty fucking cool.
right?! it looked extraordinary
Mystical creation
It's the Hilton prison hotel...
True say lol
Shonda Reynolds my name is Hilton 🥰
Strange “procedure” that a man given a whole life tariff is allowed to get out of a prison van without handcuffs.
One mistake changes the complete trajectory of one’s life, the agony wanting to back to that day of the crime must eat these guys alive
British prisons are so much more civilized.
I worked in a rehab in England for four years. I was working with a 19 year old kid who wanted to go out and commit a crime so he could play video games with his friends in jail... I still haven't totally gotten over it. He went out and torched his parents house, with them still in it, they got out fortunately. His father was a judge, pure karma in my book.
I don't care how well a prison may look on film, the reality is doing a long stretch time stands still your always looking with eyes in the back of your head. It really changes your soul even after you get out life is different. Strangeways in 1990 was not a nice place to be. Just very grateful that the 5 years i spent locked up my life has moved on in a very positive way. Like the lifer i got to know he said "when you leave those gates keep your eyes straight and not be tempted to look back" I took his advise.
How do you kick and stomp on somebody for 1.5 hrs?
Holy shit
Good documentary. The toughest prison I think I ever saw though was the black dolphin prison in Siberia..with enormous White shepard dogs keeping the prisoners in line. Now that prison was no joke !
@Be WereWolf Yes, that's why they are used in harsh Siberian prisons like this. These dogs also protect livestock from Wolves. Massive dogs they are ! All the best.
Ya know the amount of time these prisoners face its insane.. it really goes over your head. They throw these numbers around "30 years 9 years 12 years" and 9 years almost sounds like nothing at all. I just spent 85 days in county and every. single. day. Feels like an eternity.
The differences between US prisons & prisons in the UK are like day & night.....comfortable/choice of clothes, smoking cigarettes ,using Xacto knives for wood carving ,video games single cell living/holding,the list goes on ....US prisons [especially for aggravated/violent criminals] are VASTLY different !!
Thanks for the upload Charlie and thanks for the VPN tip for us in the UK.
Yeah channel 4 took it down to controversial stuff about the doc lol f channel 4
Remorse would be if you killed your best friend in an argument, but if you really hated someone, and you killed them, they must be the guys who show no remorse.
If you have to think about it, you don't feel sorry about it. The absence of empathy is the primary trait of psychopathy.
That black guy talking about he'll be out When he's 52 only talking about stuff he can't do and how his birds can get it on and he can't and how he'll be out when he's 52. Not a f****** lick of remorse in this guy for beating someone to death.
I hope he has to serve every single second of his sentence and is denied parole.
He doesn’t say he will be out at 52. He says ‘considered for parole’ he says it forecfully.
He will have to serve every single second of it. That's literally what he's explaining to you.
this is paradise compared to Bang Kwang in Thailand or Black Dolphin in Russia
The person who murdered my 6 year old son was released after 8years. The parole board talk SHIT. A deportation order gives the parole board an excuse to release them knowing that no way they can refafend in this country.
Sorry to hear about your loss.
I would go find them if you know what I mean. That's horrible, sorry for your loss.
If the prisons were like this in the US all the homeless people would be committing crimes so they could live this life of luxury.
My fav uk prison doc enjoy guys :-)
I love the videos and I thank you for your time and effort in sharing 👍 👍. God bless you and your family 🙏 🙏
Charlie Shakur crackin documentary mate; thanks for putting this on YT
What year was this made in?
Wonderful documentary, thank you
Nice video and Brit prisons are exactly like Finnish prisons.
Holy moly that self mutilation man had bad injuries.
Ok...but I really like his sweater in the beginning.
Thanks for this documentary, very informative 👍 2019
Wow! It’s like these guys committed murder and yet it seems like they all get rewarded in prison with 3 meals a day, video games, billiards, exercise, pet birds, education, and very comfortable sleeping quarters. Mind blowing
Where you from America ?
It's called thinning the herd
But once you are released you are on parole for the rest of your life.
You have to be surpervised
Live at a permanent address.
Cannot leave the country or area without permission.
Not commit any unacceptable behavour or certain offense while on parole.
And have to meet with your probation officer once in a while.
Also not all murders are the same.
Exactly this is insane! Hopefully the family members got their own form of justice when they get out because this was no punishment. They don't even serve a full life, it's absurd.
One guy says he does not regret what he did because he received all sorts of qualifications while locked up. Not a good idea to give people incentives to commit a crime. I would do great in that prison because all I like to do is lay around and watch tv anyway.
Really! Free university, rec. room, curtains and rugs? Time for arts and crafts? Three meals a day? Budgies!!!! The only drawback I can see is the price of admission---you have to murder someone!
I remember the time I served back in '92 for just a simple B&E (burglary, I think you call it in the UK) and my time in the ohio state men's reformatory wasn't anything like this.This place is civil and the staff treat you like a person and the food,the fuckin food though not fine dining I'm sure is actually food not something that you would question feeding your dog.America needs to sit down with the Minister of prisons and reform this shit system over here because to be quite honest if you warehouse men in over crowded prisons,feed them slop and don't give them any chance at redemption all you're doing is taking a low risk lv 1 or 2 inmate and turning him into a more efficient monster,because man just like any other animal will adapt to his environment.WHen I come out of prison aat 21 I didn't trust anyone,I had anxiety and depression.I had huge anger issues getting into fights constantly and was claustrophobic and didn't like being touched.So in short had it not been for some key players in my life that stuck with me thru thick and thin I might have ended back in the joint with a longer sentence maybe even a whole life sentence or maybe a death sentence.American prisons are where they send nice guys who've made mistakes to become monsters and monsters thrive there unlike UK joints that actually seem to try and help you rebuild yourself.
A ”simple” burglary? I think you still don’t understand what you did is disgusting and possibly ruined someone's life.
Watching this after watching so many US prison documentaries, it is astounding to see how different it is. US prisons are clearly designed to punish, UK prisons designed to rehabilitate
My thoughts exactly
WhAt'StHeEnDgAmE?!?!?! What does punishment even accomplish?
US prisons need to be more like the British. Way more. Being in US prison is convict college. And turns you into a more dangerous individual.
Dude, if I were facing prison here in the US I’d kill myself. After this, if I were facing prison in the UK at least they’d treat me like a human being.
The UK penal system is cruel, outdated and spiteful. 0 results regarding re-offending. It's a human factory. Very little rehabilitation due to The System which is Victorian.
This doc is well done. Clearly loosing your freedom is the ultimate punishment for any human being. Committing an act of murder is always heinous, I may not totally agree with allowing these prisoners the amenities they have in their prisons, but I think i understand why they are given these things. Unfortunately here in the USA where our "justice" system profits off of the incarceration of poor black, brown and whites at every level!. Our society has become indifferent to how we treat those in prison, they are fed "food" that is not suitable for human consumption. They are subjected to abuse from c.o's, over crowding, deprivation of water in certain instances, there is a sever lack of training programs, and little to no effort given to actually rehabilitating those who are serving short term or medium term sentences, and when they are thrown back into society we continue to shun them, label them as ex cons, make it supremely difficult for them to find work or even find a place to live, and then are astounded when so many are unable to stay out of prison. At the very least certain countries seemed to have figured out a way to rehabilitate the majority of the prisoners in their respective countries and as such it is proven by recidivism rates. We here in the states have the highest recidivism rate of any country in the world, AND the highest incarceration rate of any country on the planet... think about that!! So a murderer in the UK may appear to have it "easier" than here in the states.. but on the whole, the way a society treats its most "undeserved" or under served can be linked to how much crime both violent and non violent, that country experiences.... I think if we were to model ourselves after Norway.. which has the LOWEST recidivism rate and the LOWEST incarceration rate in the world, we would actually see less crime as a result. They have murders in Norway as well but at a much lower rate than we here in the US. They rank somewhere near the bottom of 192 countries some where around 180 ish, we are closer to 83. By comparison the UK ranks around 163 out of the 192 countries. So we can all scoff at the idea that the murderers in this documentary are treated like human beings despite their crimes, but there is reason to understand why the govts in other countries go that route vs the one we take here. Are we actually trying to be better and reduce crime? Or are we doing nothing more than exacerbating the issue?
Losing your booty rights is the ultimate punishment. Losing your freedom pales in comparison.
Your eyes are open. Were you away a while back, they had to close prisons because of a serious problem, being they didnt have enough prisoners to fill them.
For me the one guy who shouldn't be there is the poor guy that killed his wife! She forced him into it and obviously had no respect for him whatsoever.
I feel the same way. The poor guy was emotionally abused to the point of snapping. As horrible as it may sound, I honestly don’t feel much empathy for his dead wife.
He doesn't DESERVE to be there?! This is why I'm going to one day become a defense attorney. With a fool like you and fools just like you, you'd be easy to manipulate and I'd get my client off.
Thank you for this comment.
@@wryckingbaul8612nope. She had it coming by the sound of it
@@ghostsamongus3370 You'd be the first person to end
up in prison but I wouldn't defend you.
@wryckingbaul8612 nope I know better than to even let a woman like that in my life.
Wow uk prisons are soo nice. Not a hard stay but having all the necessities. I mean pet birds, house plants. Its a holiday
That Kieran fella should never be allowed out
Couldn’t help but feel sorry for martins hooch. A lot of work went into that 😊
Wanna thank you all for subs and comment's great to chat to you all :) keep them coming
Yikez stupid people get caught.
Thank you for posting. This is a great program. Good audio and nice and clear. Well done !
Would you leave your daughter alone with the guy with Asbergers? 🚫. Never let him out.
Pot plants, birds, curtains, v pillows...... what?🤔
.....nice clothes, smokes yeah pretty nice vs the states
Judge yourselves Americans, not the British.
@@36minutesago7 Come on now mate.......I get comments all the time from you buggers about how guns are ruining America and how can we feel safe ect. I just like to comment on some of the stuff on TH-cam from the Brits. It's not you it's your government. BTW while I'm judging I must agree with the prince's wife's those women are fine from what we see of them. (A bit high maintenance but fine looking broads none the less) cheers from the USA
@@36minutesago7 P.S. Don't get me wrong we are in no way perfect......the Dems are trying to rip this land apart like the "piece loving" imigrants are trying to do over there. Lots of crap isn't perfect here but it's still fun to see what life is like over the pond. This reply is almost 36 mins ago after your post lolol. Cheers.........from the USA
theres alot worse prisons in england,the media like to show the public everythings running fine.In reality things are at breaking point
Cigarettes in your cell, walk around freely with no cuffs and have something like an AA meeting with professional therapists/psychiatrists?! Wow! That's nothing like American prisons for lifers!
We got good health care but this is the lowest u will get i think
@@CharlieEdward25the why do so many have bad teeth if it's so good?😮
You should see Norwegian prisons. Prisoners get seperate houses, they live better than most people. Especially Americans, I am so grateful to be born in Western Europe.
Uk Prisons are like a hotels compared to pretty much every where else
This is not a normal prison it's for lifetime sentences. Same as the USA they get pets, carpet, shoes and special stuff. The normal prisons are worse.
Keiron is the epitome of a psychopath.
The maths genius is definitely still not safe,he is deep and i believe he knows he is still a risk
American sentences are so unreasonably long. it feels hella unjust how different the outcome is depending on where one commits their crime.
That Keiron isn't safe to release.
Lived in the same town as him (Llandudno) and I 100% agree with your statement, I know him and have spoken to him on several occasions in school and after leaving school, I wrote a comment about him on here several years ago, going to look for it now.
Why is Stella not banned? It turned a normal Welshman into a murderer.
not sure he was ever normal lol
Primary goal is to protect the public , maybe put a fence and razor wire around parlament that may help protect innocent people from psychopaths.
kieran franey , Kieran, don’t be a dummy.
@@Pete-z6e don't call me a dummy, I am simply using an allegorical analogy to let people understand that the people who are in government for the most part have not got our best intentions at heart .
Ths does not look like a prison at all. Your freedom is gone, but this looks very very soft.
David Burke it’s hell in there trust me
why is a murderer allowed wood working tools!!!!!!!! WTF
Not all murderers are the same. Life sentence for murder In the UK is mandatory. So they have to make sure they adjust to prison life. Other wise there will be riots. Times have changed. People are more rebellious than decades ago. So prisons have to make up with the times.
Pretty comfortable life these guys have. Try doing life in prison in South Africa. You'll share a room with about 30 other people.
Bloody hell they really need a new blade for that clipper 😂
It's very difficult for me to see this as prison. This is WAYYYY diffrerent from prisons in the US.
Noone wants those killers to live in poor conditions, yet, what we see here is killers living in luxurious and not just living in good condition. I found this is so insulting to relatives' victims.
American?
To those who say that this prison is nicer than american prisons - The uk as a whole is a nicer country. Is it really that hard to put two and two together..?
@Sara America is a country of migrants you idiot.
Knife crime and acid attacks.
OZZY is a great artist that little house he’s building out of match sticks for his son is so badass solid I really like it ...💪 you might recall Tommy karate Pitera a convicted Mafia member in the US prison system he is a very very gifted artist google his art work it’s really great stuff And it’s for sale
How refreshing, no jibber jabber language you can't understand and thank goodness NO RAPPING
Lol yeah.
US prisons are ruthless compared to this. The prisons in Norway are even softer.
As an American, I don't know what 'qualifications' are. I Googled it, and it made me more confused :( Here it's broken up; Kindergarten, Elementary School 1-4 th grade, Middle School 5-8th grade and High School 9-12 grade and you're done. Unless you want to go to College and get a degree. It's broken up into fours. Is that what qualifications are? Grades broken up?
That is interesting that middle school starts in 5th grade and that they do not have Pre-K just kindergarten.
22:25 doesnt like England and ends up in English prison . not the sharpest tool in the shed .
What's up with these UK jails? They give murderers better quarters and treatment than a common stick-up thief in the US.
Its horrific how often the parole board gets it wrong.
These prisoners have it better than some of the honest working people in the real world trying to put food on the family table
So, boyo from North Wales with a scouse accent kills an English guy for no reason and still proclaims his hatred for the English,life for you should mean life..
Lol
Not a Scouse accent that, North Wales.
296 ni kan intese dem i ögonen ma måste ge dem hopp så dessa personer kommer in i omgivningen igen det kan be gro på vad som hänt dessa personer
Pra i lugt tempo så förstår då förstår ni dem bättre och kan ge dem förhoppningen till
Baka hjälp dem stjälp dem inte hjälpen måste skrr
I love how this prison doesn't treat their inmates like animals in poor quality conditions. Tbh I wouldn't even treat my dogs like some prisons in the us.
More people over in the us compaired to us i think thats one problem cost
@@CharlieEdward25 yeah. There are MUCH worse than the us.
@@gnarls4480 I have experienced both there is a huge difference and it is to do with money and what state your in. On same note not all prisons in England were very good especially in the late 80's to early 90's
Many years ago, I had to do a 51 month prison term in the state of Florida. It was for trafficking drugs. No air conditioning at all...ever...in hot and humid swampy Florida! Also, you have to work for free. Usually on a work squad that clears the sides of the highways of weeds with a weed eater. All day. 5 days a week. In the hot ass Florida weather. Only to return to the compound, to a dorm without air conditioning! None of these amenities that they have in the UK. It's so very different. Almost inhumane conditions. It was a miserable experience. However, I got out intact. Moved back to California. Started a business, made a nice life for myself, and have lived a good, law abiding life ever since. I guess it was good, in that it kept me from ever breaking the law again.
It ended at 41, not started
42:46 'Whats it like being on trial for murder?' Boring, I fell asleep 5 times. 🤣 he sounds honest lol
Oh come on,let the dude out so he can go get a divorce like everyone else lmao
I really thought keiron shitty tats were from being in prison not before
So little insight. That can't really be fixed so they are bound to do it again. 🙀
What an incredible waste of lives
11:43 Shawshank Redemption -> the man knows his classics and has a sense of humour. I'm glad the European prison systems are much more humane than the US prison-industrial complex. If only because a lot of these people get released back into society again, you don't want them back in society after being treated like animals.
A hotel room is luxurious, but when covid hit and people couldn't leave a room, including a hotel room with meals brought in, people started to go off their heads.
I didn't know anyone that had that problem. Almost everyone I knew enjoyed getting a paycheck at home while watching TV and playing videogames all day. Sounds like those people had underlying issues that would have happened regardless
@@ghostsamongus3370 I did, world travellers, went OFF their heads, it's hilarious, but I kept a straight face throughout.
“We’ve had millionaires kill their business partners”
That man’s wife did him dirty. His daughters are amazing for forgiving him though.
How is this prison? It looks like a comfy place where you don't have to work for anything and are free from responsibility... 15 years of your life you get to stay in a place like this while your victim rots in the ground... they will NEVER have the opportunity to live their lives... this is ridiculous...
That is what I am saying.
The U.S. prison system is no joke. These folks have it made.
@Noey Tindol no you have it all wrong, the U.S. prison system IS an absolute joke, they should stop using the words “rehabilitation” and “corrections”. You are seeing a functional prison system in the British model.
@@36minutesago7 The U.S. don't care about the rehabilitation part. Therefore, it's no joke.
The dude killed his wife his wife was very mean to him he was her slave to her
Shaun’s brow ridge is like a canopy over his eyes. I wonder if that has anything to do with him being the worthless pill of shit woman killer he is.
It’s amazing how they trust that murdering pos serving “life” in prison so much. Dude has smokes, tv, food drink and tools for his woodworking hobby he enjoys in his cell.
He beat his blokes head in with a hammer yet he has blades and tools in his cell.
They shouldn’t let that woman killer Shaun out!! He will absolutely do it again if he had the chance.
Chris’s cell/room is pretty fucking nice for being a murdering pile of shit. Birds, tv and V pillows.
Dudes living it up!