Debunking Terra 3. So a lot of people (and I mean a lot) have been saying that this version of cosmic garou is somehow, someway beyond the tiering system (which is false, and I’ll later prove why). But the thing is, most of what Garou said was hyperbole. This can be shown when he was talking about becoming one with the universe (that’s literally just universal). And von Neumann’s universe does have a hierarchical set, but it doesn’t relate here with the fan-made manga. Garou didn’t even go over the complexities of the von Neumann universe at all. Pretty much what he said was that the universe is beyond infinity and that von Neumann’s universe is a “universal” universe. Which is again, just universal. You could argue that it’s high universal (because Garou said that it surpasses mortal cognition), but for the sake of keeping the debunk concise and consistent, we’re just going to say it’s universal (because that’s simply what Garou said). The next thing I think I should debunk is Garou saying he erased all concepts of time and space. Now erasing concepts is conceptual erasure (pretty sure everyone knows that), but that doesn’t necessarily make Garou Outerversal or whatever, it Just means that he is capable Of erasing concepts and Its value . And this should be pretty Simple and obvious to understand. The only way to know that Garou is indeed Outerversal , is by confirming with the canon and the Author himself (and the manga never explicitly stated that Garou is Above the concept of Time or space) . I’m now going to go over Garou’s attacks and his destruction capacity. So it’s made clear to the reader that he has dimensional attacks, as shown in his fight against Saitama numerous times . Like when he did the “dimensional blow”, which compresses everything into a 0-dimensional void. Which is insane, but that’d just mean he has dimensional interactive powers and such , not that he’s freaking Outer or something. He can also divide the universe into endless lines, each with its own number in a hierarchical pattern, but really he’s just manipulating the universe, which is, again, just universal. The universe then starts unraveling, showing its true size and identity, as endless lines reveal the fabric of the universe . Which, like I said (probably) is insane… but to be honest, it doesn’t reach anywhere near what people hype that feat up to be. As he’s simply compressing everything into a 0 dimensional void. The next thing I want to cover is Garou’s ability to change a being’s entire setting or concept. This just means that he can change a person’s entire setting, which doesn’t really scale anywhere (it’s just another hax that can be overpowered by higher dimensionality). Garou also stated that “the concept of mankind will cease to exist”, which implies that he has conceptual erasure or high level destruction, which is very commendable and respectable. However, this doesn’t even get him past mankind level, since he was just going to erase the idea of man. Anyone who isn’t of man wouldn’t be affected. This implies the fact that his conceptual erasure is pretty limited , he can’t use it to its full extent , and even if he could it’d only work when he used the full power of the universe . So this Means that he Can’t really use it consistently, and it isn’t something he can regularly do. Moving forth , I’m going to talking about the “timeline strike” ability. So the timeline strike ability, like its name suggests, is an ability in which the user is able to combine timelines and stack them continuously. This doesn’t prove, or even necessitate any logical Truth that Garou transcends these timelines. Because just Manipulating timelines isn’t going to cut it . If you really think about it, That’s just time Manipulation, which is just a hax that doesn’t affect his attack potency or some other Kind of way. You have to Prove that Garou is superior to these timelines Directly from a reputable Source and a credible one at that. Then Garou proceeds to put up some vague and mysterious looking portal that Saitama causally Breaks through , which is humorous and figurative at best, because there is no confirming evidence that Proves any dimensionality within that portal . It’s vague at best, and there needs to be surrounding evidence that Proves or supports the space getting past 3-dimensional. The spatial cut technique is also 3-dimensional. As there is no further context or information that gets it past that at all. It is, again, a vague ability without any confirmation that it gets past even 3-dimensional. Saitama then proceeds to play with Garou by taking out his speaker box, and then rewriting Garou’s speech. Which scales nowhere, because it’s Non physical interaction . And i truly think that the author made this fan-made manga for shits and giggles & Power shenanigans and whatnot. Which means that it can be classified as an oc fallacy (possibly) , because there’s surrounding Evidence supporting such. There is really no reason to go in-depth about V-logic and ZFC like that . Especially when Saitama interacted with something no one should be able to interact with. And that’s the debunk! If you have any contentions , then point out why some of my arguments were wrong according to you, and we can discuss why . But despite all of that, I hope you learned something from my debunk of T3 Garou. Peace. Edit : Regarding the scan where there was A bunch of cardinals and Von Neumann’s universe model. The inaccessible Cardinal being there doesn’t mean that Garou’s high outer . It’s pretty obvious that the Author’s intent was to make Saitama and Garou as Op as possible, and that falls under o.c fallacy. That’s because there was a lot of hyperbole and Op shit for literally no reason whatsoever . For example, Garou stating that he erased all concepts of time and space, even though their attacks were still physical . There shouldn’t be any Physical attack being made in a place with No concept of time and space. That’s simply illogical and it doesn’t add up to any consistency. ------------------------ See Calix's argumentation below. The ordinal placements does not correlate with the abstract placement of the cardinals since they exists on the same plane so this would just render it mathematically useless in nature because it's a stable plane providing a power of 0 so it scales nowhere. "THE VON NEUMANN UNIVERSE, V.X WHEN INPUT AL THEN VINPUT PCV AD CPOWER SET, IF INPUT IS A LIMIT ORDINAL, THEN VINPUTUK< CVK, WHEREK CAN ITERATE THROUGH ALL ORDINALS. IT H PROPER CLASS, AN ONGOING PROCESS OF TAKING POWER GETS. WHERE IS THE EMPTY SET, A GET WITH NO ELEMENTS. THE SUBSETS O ARE AND VI OF THE EMPTY SET POWER SE POWER SET OF VI 10, 108 THE POWER SET OF V.2, 10, 01, 10, COIL AND SO ON THE NEUMANN UNIVERSE IF VO HAS A CARDINALITY OF O WHICH IS AN EMPTY SET, THEN CARDINALITY OF VI, THE POWER SET OF 0, 16 2:01. THE CARDINALITY OF V22V2, V3'S CARDINALITY 2V 24V 4'S CARDINALITY2V 3 16 VSS CARDINALITY 65536, AND SO FORTH" This statement above basically implies ordinals = cardinals which is mathematically incorrect and is false equivalence. Ordinals are negative while cardinals are positives. And you cant say -1=1 simply because they don't exists on the mathematical same plane. Henceforth, the terra 3 depiction of the Von Neumann universe is mathematically false, and fails to scale anywhere logically. "THE VASTNESS OF THE UNIVERSE SURPASSES OUR COGNITION. THE COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF "INFINITY" ALSO STRUGGLES TO DESCRIBE ITS GRANDEUR. EVEN MODELS LIKE THE "VON NEUMANN UNIVERSE" CAN ONLY COVER A SMALL FRACTION OF IT." "Grandeur":~ quality of great beauty and size which attracts admiration. "The von Neumann universe supposedly "encompasses" things like aleph numbers and inaccessible cardinals" This gets paradoxical by the fact that those are mathematical, thus leading them to exist as abstract notions, the Von Neumann Universe is a physical structure here, this is a contradiction because an object cannot encompass something that has an higher existence then it, in simpler words, two completely opposite structures (physical object and abstract/mathematical aspect) cannot exist on the same plane so they can't be scaled as a singularity. Henceforth, Garou T3 would scale towards his verse which by being made consistent is Multiversal+.
BTW -1 is equivalent to 1 in absolute value [distance from 0] as absolute value doesn't regard the number's sign [whether it be - or +]. But in a general perspective, in no way are negatives mathematically equivalent to positives, so Calix is still correct here.
@@fw_Rhetorical my guy you clearly do not even know what you are saying right now. The multiverse construct garou was referring are composed in those universes and overites the higher dimension of it. The golden civilization were referring that overite in the logic of V. The V contains higher dimensions that are mathematical and non mathematical. It extends to infinite V and the fraction of the universe itself transcends it and it literally stated that the concept of the von Neumann doesn't compare to the universe itself and no the universe isn't subject to set theory. That already brings it to high outerversal. The erasing of concept of space time debunk you made. Garou and Saitama were not even inside of universe but outside of it where they perceived a multitude of parallel worlds. The concept of space time houses infinte amount of quantum mechanisms.
Great Video ❤. I’d like to know do you think that there are any other fictional characters outside of dragon ball that can beat Goku because he solos most of fiction .
@@drip_sauce7967ok man goku is EXTREMELY overpowered but STILL theres GOOOTTTTAAA be SSSOOOMMMEEEOOONNNEEE that BEAAAAATTTTTSSSSS HIUIOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM
@@Narcissistic_pyschotic first he isn't Gag he is a parody second Gag is a NLF and doesn't scale most of the time 3 Oh Yeah why he didn't one punch Garou or Boros Pipe down Kid
@@drip_sauce7967it doesn't matter which version of Goku you use saitama is Solo in Dragon Ball super even Marvel and DC if you want is capable of Solo in Dragon Ball super if you want to be biased go ahead and try you've already proven the point that you are biased just by looking at this video that I'm watching now
@@drip_sauce7967Dragon Ball fans know this as well you know that Goku never stood a chance against Superman what makes you think you can defeat saitama he can't even defeat name one of them that's the game you want to play drip sauce okay
I always wondered why dragonball fans think its not fair to used a characters weakness against them in debate or powerscaling. This phenomenon should be studied because it defies all common sense but the dragon ball fans cannot see their mistake
@@drip_sauce7967 i mean theres tons of them. But lets take the goku can’t survive in space weakness. Frieza exploited this and one shotted ssj blue vegeta. Theres the caught off guard weakness where goku is basically human level if his guard is down, we saw this weakness exploited by a common ray gun. He’s gullible and weak to poison Tons of weakness to be exploited and fans pretend they dont exist
@@drip_sauce7967 see i told you that yall pretend they dont exist. To this day there isn’t a single fan that would even entertain the reality of those weaknesses exist.
@@userofsharinganFrieza never one shotted SSJB Vegeta 😭, while yes he let his guard down that’s due to his ki being lowered. Saitama can’t breathe in space either. . Dunno what you’re on about.
@@mrsketchysketch680Narrative scaling? Because that the only way you can save Saitama,s weak ass and even that just gives the character R>F transcendence over the verse.
Cc goku vs terra 3 saitma ChatGPT Comparing CC Goku (Composite Canon Goku) and Terra 3 Saitama involves looking at their feats, abilities, and overall power levels across various continuities and interpretations. Here's an analysis: CC Goku’s Feats and Abilities: 1. Super Saiyan Transformations: Ultra Instinct: Allows Goku to react automatically to threats without needing to think, giving him extreme speed and agility beyond the limits of most beings. Super Saiyan Blue and Ultra Instinct: Both forms significantly enhance his strength, speed, and durability, making him a multiversal threat. 2. Speed: Faster than Light: Goku has demonstrated speed far exceeding the speed of light, especially in his higher transformations. He's able to cross vast distances in the blink of an eye. 3. Destructive Capacity: Universal+: Goku’s strongest attacks, like the Universal Spirit Bomb and the Kamehameha, have the potential to destroy entire universes. In the Battle of Gods arc, the shockwaves from his fight with Beerus threatened the entire universe. Potentially Multiversal: Goku's power continues to grow, and in various interpretations, he's seen as a multiversal threat, capable of influencing multiple universes. 4. Combat Skill: Expert Martial Artist: Goku is one of the most skilled fighters in the multiverse, combining raw power with strategic combat techniques. 5. Energy Manipulation: Ki Control: Goku can manipulate ki to enhance his abilities, fire energy blasts, and even create barriers. 6. Immense Durability and Endurance: Survival Against Universal Threats: Goku has survived energy blasts that could destroy universes, fought for hours without rest, and continued to grow stronger through battle. Terra 3 Saitama’s Feats and Abilities: 1. Outerversal Strength: Transcending Dimensions: Saitama operates beyond all conventional dimensions, making him an outerversal entity. He has destroyed infinite-dimensional structures and transcended conventional limits. 2. Surviving Extreme Dimensional Compression: Beyond Space and Time: Saitama has survived being compressed from two to zero dimensions and continued to function in a higher, more profound universe. 3. Reality-Warping Resistance: Immune to Manipulation: Saitama resists reality manipulation, including attacks that rewrite his settings and statistics. He has even erased the pages of his narrative to counter an attempt to erase him. 4. Defeating Higher-Dimensional Entities: God-Level Threats: Saitama has defeated 4th-dimensional gods and beings with powers beyond conventional understanding. 5. Destruction of "THE BOX": Outerversal Impact: Saitama destroyed "THE BOX," an infinite-dimensional structure containing an entire omniverse, a feat considered outerversal. 6. Surviving and Thriving in the ZERO DIMENSION: Zero-Dimensional Existence: Saitama can create and survive in the ZERO DIMENSION, a place where conventional beings with shape and size cannot exist. 7. Combat Against 6th-Dimensional Power: Overcoming Cosmic Garou: Saitama fought and defeated Cosmic Garou, who had received power from a 6th-dimensional being. Comparative Analysis: 1. Dimensional Influence: CC Goku: Operates within the multiversal level, with the potential to affect multiple universes. Terra 3 Saitama: Operates at an outerversal level, transcending conventional dimensions and affecting infinite-dimensional structures. 2. Speed and Reaction Time: CC Goku: Has faster-than-light reflexes and combat speed, particularly in Ultra Instinct. Terra 3 Saitama: While Saitama's speed isn’t explicitly quantified, his outerversal nature implies speed beyond conventional limits, likely surpassing Goku's. 3. Destructive Power: CC Goku: Capable of universal to potentially multiversal destruction. Terra 3 Saitama: Capable of outerversal destruction, including the annihilation of infinite-dimensional structures. 4. Durability and Endurance: CC Goku: Can survive universal-level threats, extreme energy blasts, and continuous combat. Terra 3 Saitama: Survived being compressed from two to zero dimensions, resisted reality-warping attacks, and continued to function in higher dimensions. 5. Reality-Warping and Manipulation: CC Goku: Has some resistance to reality-warping but can be affected by beings like Zeno. Terra 3 Saitama: Highly resistant to reality manipulation, capable of countering narrative erasure and other forms of reality-warping. Conclusion: Terra 3 Saitama would likely have the upper hand in this matchup due to his outerversal abilities, resistance to reality manipulation, and feats that transcend conventional dimensional and multiversal boundaries. While CC Goku is immensely powerful, especially with Ultra Instinct and his multiversal influence, Terra 3 Saitama’s ability to operate beyond all dimensions and affect infinite-dimensional structures places him on a level that Goku, as powerful as he is, would struggle to match. In a battle between the two, Terra 3 Saitama's outerversal feats and reality-warping resistance would likely give him the victory.
If we take the growth chart shown in the Garou fight at face value then how would be roughly 63 times stronger than when he started the fight and roughly 32 times stronger than the serious punch squared. Not saying that there is anyway shape or form that he would win just that I think he would have easily been able to have done the multi galaxy feat by himself by the end of the fight.
really it could be closer to 79 time the start of the fight since base is roughly 1/5 of the square rather than the math of 1/4 of the square I showed earlier still gets stomped by base Goku with no arms, legs, blindfolded and sick after a hard fought battle.
@@yeikelamores6085Bro Saitama broke his limit, which means, he can use infinite strengh, so Just Saitama smokes Goku, Terra 2 Saitama, Smokes Goku Even more and Terra 3 Saitama, Goku Will just unalife him self.
Fr Why can't both communities just stop comparing characters- Oh I forgot.. They got no lives and probably isn't too productive in life Didn't graduate none of that
@@MR_LoreYTI'm debunking this reply: Dragon Ball fans WAS usually chill but they're menaces when it comes to scaling. They take scaling very personally. So when OPM fans, JJK fans, MHA fans and ETC started talking BS and called DB "fodder", DB fandom started to one by one bully all the fandoms. This caused a whole war and DB fandom hating the OPM fandom. But what did you expect? Dragon Ball is what? 40 years old? What did people think was gonna happen if they compare anime from like a couple of years ago to a legendary anime that inspired many animes? This isn't glazing, it's just a brief history lesson.
Finally, I was really looking forward to your video about Saitama Terra 3, fans have been getting annoying lately about it like Saitama Boundless or shit like that I also like how you said something true, Opm fans can't debate
@@saneywaney terra 2 is barely even multiversal, goku has scaled way past that in base already lmao, not even counting the fan mangas that make him boundless
Drip I love (no HOMO) You're literally saying wat all of us are thinking I was how do u hav the venuman universe at boundless? Simply having Cardinal numbers doesn't mean high outer, they never get back to me for some reason 🤷♂️ I even gave em an extreme high ball iteration jus to get terra 3 saitama to Outer and I was being hella generous whilst ignoring like 50 different realms and base goku jus matches that lvl of power 🤦♂️ Need to start using the high outer ssg goku scale 🤔 Maybe it's not nessessary but if they annoy me I'm doing it
@@yeikelamores6085 I'm quiet sure their definition of boundless is having no limits, The fact Saitama broke his limiter, so they say he's boundless even though he ain't even broke the dimensional limiter yet he's somehow boundless, honestly I lose brain cells tryna understand saitama stans
@@bamboteeveeThat is pretty much how their fanbase works. Yes toxicity exists in every fanbase but not only do the OPM fanbase have toxic people everywhere(Not every single one of them is like this) and they are just dumb and hearing them scale Saitama would make you lose braincells. I am telling you if a character in the manga say's "Saitama could overcome anyone no matter how powerful" the fanbase would dickride that statement to oblivion because where that statement is obviously talking about the series, the fans would use that on every other series like dumbasses
2:49, Speed Of Light Of Their Universe, The Speed Of Light differs From Universe To Universe, Surpassing The Speed Of Light in Our Universe Results In Immeasurable Speed.
@@mrsketchysketch680time travel is an ability and no matter how much u can time travel with an ability, that scales u nowhere, u can only have immeasurable speed by moving forward or backwards in time with RAW speed
GFG is the strongest, and not just Strongest Goku 💀 He's by definition the strongest fictional Character hands down, blud views every fictional continuity as they are, Just fiction nothing more nothing less
OC Fallacy Is Not A Real Fallacy, And If We Are Allowed To Use Wiki, Then Where The Fuck Is The OC Fallacy In The Literal List Of Fallacies, Why Has Philosopher Ever Written A Paper On The OC Fallacy? Oh Wait It Almost Sounds Like It's A Random Arbitrary Fallacy That is Made Up That Doesn't Even Make Any Sense, Something That A lot Of TH-camrs Already Debunked And It Doesn't Even Fulfil The Requirements For Being A Fallacy.
OC Fallacy is not a valid way to debunk anyone lol. It's not even a fallacy. It's basically dismissing everything from a story just because of what it is, that's an Origin Fallacy.
@@GokuSolosOpmVersefr Imagine Goku training Saitama tho that would be intresting...🤔 Saitama could use that unused potential and get stronger then we got the trio Bro don't get me started with my boy broly still being trained AND I CANNOT WAIT FOR THEM TO SHOW BROLY WITH GOD KI
@@GokuSolosOpmVersesame thing with dragon ball fans However both fan base are just immature asf "Saitama solos this🤓" No.. "Goku solos that🤡" Meanwhile the character themselves aren't even that bad the fan base brings shame and ruins the animes reputation It's hurroundous🤦♂️
Goku is beyond boundless. Terra 3 saitama is not even planetary because he didn't even destroy a single planet. On the other hand Goku destroyed infinite realities and timelines and also infinite multiverses and infinite Omniverses . So Goku solos Saitama.Goku even solos jesus and God. Goku is the one above all
Saitama is the one punched man.... Aka the man who gets one punched by goatku Common DripGoat W 🥱 5$ there's atleast 3 hate comments from toddlers saying "bUt sAiTAma haS inFinTE POwer" or something stupid like saitama has toon force.
There’s nothing beyond infinite power. Saitama can one punch anything if he so wished to which is unquantifiable. Therefore, saitama’s power level cannot be scaled. Also, saitama solos all versions of goku.
Guys please read these on your own. This brake down is very bad and biased against Saitama. Look at OFFICIAL DIVINE for a real non biased review and breakdown. Video is good tho just misleading.
I saw the video, the final verdict is absolutely wrong, everything he said was just layers in Outerversal, not even remotely close to High Outerversal,It doesn't help that Divine Wank some characters more than once to make the video more interesting, you can ask Drip, who Divine said this to.
Nigga this debunk is accurate , you didn’t refute anything but just claimed it was biased, divine is my friend we collabed on the goku vs superman video and we talk all the time, he told me he only wanked saitama to keep the fanbase 😭😭😭😭😭because he wants money, he does this with any verse you see that he scales above what i scale them, I AMP DIVINE ON DEBATING
@@vertachi8066 he made a video to debunk saitama, and u think i will waste my time just to make a video ? And it’s pretty much both of u have zero knowledge, the moment he was debunking ichigo i knew he is full of bs😂. Besides manga saitama is way above Goku.
Goku slams him infinite layers into no concept of diff💀 Ik i still like Saitama but no, he can't stand against someone who is outerversal and non-canon forms of saitama will lose.
Vs battle Says Terra 3 is A-1 Other websites say terra 3 is A-0 And Goku is C-6 Meanwhile there meat riders "Debunking" tf you mean those websites show accurate tiering and y'all think Goku can beat Saitama terra 3 Zeno: erases Dbs fans: HELL YEAH! STRONGEST EVER Garou does the same but for saitama: That's just changing reality Tf you mean mister meat riders He can cut anything and Saitama was like no i wouldn't get cut and get back his arm like bruh this shouldnt even be a debate
@@partyvietnamcommunist4829 Goku is planet level lmao, when a planet blew up Vegeta died and Vegeta is close to power levels of Goku, you might say "he died because no air" that's even more shameful and if he died because of no air why did frieza die? Lmao
@@drip_sauce7967 i knew about the otherworld statements but most people don't really use that plus your normal Multiversal Immeasurable speed Goku is enough for most matchups especially anime ones where it's rare for characters to even be comfortably planetary 💀
Canon Saitama still Smokes Goku, in the canon versión they Will never be able to show the full power of Saitama cuz he broke his limit, which means he basicly have infinite strengh, also Goku fans make Goku versions to beat Saitama like that shi## of the Super sayian infinite
Debunking Terra 3.
So a lot of people (and I mean a lot) have been saying that this version of cosmic garou is somehow, someway beyond the tiering system (which is false, and I’ll later prove why). But the thing is, most of what Garou said was hyperbole. This can be shown when he was talking about becoming one with the universe (that’s literally just universal). And von Neumann’s universe does have a hierarchical set, but it doesn’t relate here with the fan-made manga. Garou didn’t even go over the complexities of the von Neumann universe at all. Pretty much what he said was that the universe is beyond infinity and that von Neumann’s universe is a “universal” universe. Which is again, just universal. You could argue that it’s high universal (because Garou said that it surpasses mortal cognition), but for the sake of keeping the debunk concise and consistent, we’re just going to say it’s universal (because that’s simply what Garou said).
The next thing I think I should debunk is Garou saying he erased all concepts of time and space. Now erasing concepts is conceptual erasure (pretty sure everyone knows that), but that doesn’t necessarily make Garou Outerversal or whatever, it Just means that he is capable Of erasing concepts and Its value . And this should be pretty Simple and obvious to understand. The only way to know that Garou is indeed Outerversal , is by confirming with the canon and the Author himself (and the manga never explicitly stated that Garou is Above the concept of Time or space) .
I’m now going to go over Garou’s attacks and his destruction capacity. So it’s made clear to the reader that he has dimensional attacks, as shown in his fight against Saitama numerous times . Like when he did the “dimensional blow”, which compresses everything into a 0-dimensional void. Which is insane, but that’d just mean he has dimensional interactive powers and such , not that he’s freaking Outer or something. He can also divide the universe into endless lines, each with its own number in a hierarchical pattern, but really he’s just manipulating the universe, which is, again, just universal.
The universe then starts unraveling, showing its true size and identity, as endless lines reveal the fabric of the universe . Which, like I said (probably) is insane… but to be honest, it doesn’t reach anywhere near what people hype that feat up to be. As he’s simply compressing everything into a 0 dimensional void. The next thing I want to cover is Garou’s ability to change a being’s entire setting or concept. This just means that he can change a person’s entire setting, which doesn’t really scale anywhere (it’s just another hax that can be overpowered by higher dimensionality).
Garou also stated that “the concept of mankind will cease to exist”, which implies that he has conceptual erasure or high level destruction, which is very commendable and respectable. However, this doesn’t even get him past mankind level, since he was just going to erase the idea of man. Anyone who isn’t of man wouldn’t be affected. This implies the fact that his conceptual erasure is pretty limited , he can’t use it to its full extent , and even if he could it’d only work when he used the full power of the universe . So this Means that he Can’t really use it consistently, and it isn’t something he can regularly do.
Moving forth , I’m going to talking about the “timeline strike” ability. So the timeline strike ability, like its name suggests, is an ability in which the user is able to combine timelines and stack them continuously. This doesn’t prove, or even necessitate any logical Truth that Garou transcends these timelines. Because just Manipulating timelines isn’t going to cut it . If you really think about it, That’s just time Manipulation, which is just a hax that doesn’t affect his attack potency or some other Kind of way. You have to Prove that Garou is superior to these timelines Directly from a reputable Source and a credible one at that. Then Garou proceeds to put up some vague and mysterious looking portal that Saitama causally Breaks through , which is humorous and figurative at best, because there is no confirming evidence that Proves any dimensionality within that portal . It’s vague at best, and there needs to be surrounding evidence that Proves or supports the space getting past 3-dimensional. The spatial cut technique is also 3-dimensional. As there is no further context or information that gets it past that at all. It is, again, a vague ability without any confirmation that it gets past even 3-dimensional.
Saitama then proceeds to play with Garou by taking out his speaker box, and then rewriting Garou’s speech. Which scales nowhere, because it’s Non physical interaction . And i truly think that the author made this fan-made manga for shits and giggles & Power shenanigans and whatnot. Which means that it can be classified as an oc fallacy (possibly) , because there’s surrounding Evidence supporting such. There is really no reason to go in-depth about V-logic and ZFC like that . Especially when Saitama interacted with something no one should be able to interact with.
And that’s the debunk! If you have any contentions , then point out why some of my arguments were wrong according to you, and we can discuss why . But despite all of that, I hope you learned something from my debunk of T3 Garou. Peace.
Edit : Regarding the scan where there was A bunch of cardinals and Von Neumann’s universe model. The inaccessible Cardinal being there doesn’t mean that Garou’s high outer . It’s pretty obvious that the Author’s intent was to make Saitama and Garou as Op as possible, and that falls under o.c fallacy. That’s because there was a lot of hyperbole and Op shit for literally no reason whatsoever . For example, Garou stating that he erased all concepts of time and space, even though their attacks were still physical . There shouldn’t be any Physical attack being made in a place with No concept of time and space. That’s simply illogical and it doesn’t add up to any consistency.
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See Calix's argumentation below.
The ordinal placements does not correlate with the abstract placement of the cardinals since they exists on the same plane so this would just render it mathematically useless in nature because it's a stable plane providing a power of 0 so it scales nowhere.
"THE VON NEUMANN UNIVERSE, V.X WHEN INPUT AL THEN VINPUT PCV AD CPOWER SET, IF INPUT IS A LIMIT ORDINAL, THEN VINPUTUK< CVK, WHEREK CAN ITERATE THROUGH ALL ORDINALS. IT H PROPER CLASS, AN ONGOING PROCESS OF TAKING POWER GETS. WHERE IS THE EMPTY SET, A GET WITH NO ELEMENTS.
THE SUBSETS O ARE AND VI OF THE EMPTY SET POWER SE POWER SET OF VI 10, 108 THE POWER SET OF V.2, 10, 01, 10, COIL AND SO ON
THE NEUMANN UNIVERSE
IF VO HAS A CARDINALITY OF O WHICH IS AN EMPTY SET, THEN CARDINALITY OF VI, THE POWER SET OF 0, 16 2:01. THE CARDINALITY OF V22V2, V3'S CARDINALITY 2V 24V 4'S CARDINALITY2V 3 16 VSS CARDINALITY 65536, AND
SO FORTH"
This statement above basically implies ordinals = cardinals which is mathematically incorrect and is false equivalence. Ordinals are negative while cardinals are positives.
And you cant say -1=1 simply because they don't exists on the mathematical same plane.
Henceforth, the terra 3 depiction of the Von Neumann universe is mathematically false, and fails to scale anywhere logically.
"THE VASTNESS OF THE UNIVERSE SURPASSES OUR COGNITION. THE COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF "INFINITY" ALSO STRUGGLES TO DESCRIBE ITS GRANDEUR.
EVEN MODELS LIKE THE "VON NEUMANN UNIVERSE" CAN ONLY COVER A SMALL FRACTION OF IT."
"Grandeur":~ quality of great beauty and size which attracts admiration.
"The von Neumann universe supposedly
"encompasses" things like aleph numbers and inaccessible cardinals"
This gets paradoxical by the fact that those are mathematical, thus leading them to exist as abstract notions, the Von Neumann Universe is a physical structure here, this is a contradiction because an object cannot encompass something that has an higher existence then it, in simpler words, two completely opposite structures (physical object and abstract/mathematical aspect) cannot exist on the same plane so they can't be scaled as a singularity.
Henceforth, Garou T3 would scale towards his verse which by being made consistent is Multiversal+.
BTW -1 is equivalent to 1 in absolute value [distance from 0] as absolute value doesn't regard the number's sign [whether it be - or +]. But in a general perspective, in no way are negatives mathematically equivalent to positives, so Calix is still correct here.
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@@drip_sauce7967can debunk
type 4 multiverse wank?
@@fw_Rhetoricalgood job copy pasting shit
@@fw_Rhetorical my guy you clearly do not even know what you are saying right now.
The multiverse construct garou was referring are composed in those universes and overites the higher dimension of it. The golden civilization were referring that overite in the logic of V.
The V contains higher dimensions that are mathematical and non mathematical. It extends to infinite V and the fraction of the universe itself transcends it and it literally stated that the concept of the von Neumann doesn't compare to the universe itself and no the universe isn't subject to set theory. That already brings it to high outerversal.
The erasing of concept of space time debunk you made. Garou and Saitama were not even inside of universe but outside of it where they perceived a multitude of parallel worlds. The concept of space time houses infinte amount of quantum mechanisms.
The creator of that terra 3 manga was definitely a saitama meat rider tryna make saitama stronger than goku 💀
Well Terra 3 was made for powerscaling purposes and it shows
DC slayer has returned 🙏🏾
W video as expected
Great Video ❤. I’d like to know do you think that there are any other fictional characters outside of dragon ball that can beat Goku because he solos most of fiction .
No, as far as i know every other fictional verse is insanely overrated, i have the true scales for them
@@drip_sauce7967 scp atom negs goku
@@drip_sauce7967ok man goku is EXTREMELY overpowered but STILL theres GOOOTTTTAAA be SSSOOOMMMEEEOOONNNEEE that BEAAAAATTTTTSSSSS HIUIOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM
Goku blitzes comp Saitama. Frrr brothaaaa🔥
Goku solos
W goat 🐐🔥🔥🔥🔥💯🗣️
B-b-but saitama is boundless cuz i say so 🤓☝️
“H-h-he is stronger then goku cuz his name one punch man”🤓🤓
Nah WDYM he is massively above Tiering 🤓👆😂
@@GokuZX2000 He's irrelevant layers into real life fr fr
@@GokuZX2000Downplay, he can one punch anyone lol, he is gag, he solos fodder ball
@@Narcissistic_pyschotic first he isn't Gag he is a parody second Gag is a NLF and doesn't scale most of the time 3 Oh Yeah why he didn't one punch Garou or Boros Pipe down Kid
Goku always finds a way
Drip Sauce always delivers 😤
Peak video 🔥❣️
You already know!
Goat sauce and Goat scaling? nah too much goats, finna have an overload
@@drip_sauce7967it doesn't matter which version of Goku you use saitama is Solo in Dragon Ball super even Marvel and DC if you want is capable of Solo in Dragon Ball super if you want to be biased go ahead and try you've already proven the point that you are biased just by looking at this video that I'm watching now
@@drip_sauce7967Dragon Ball fans know this as well you know that Goku never stood a chance against Superman what makes you think you can defeat saitama he can't even defeat name one of them that's the game you want to play drip sauce okay
@@cjcj4861u mean the muti galaxy fooder the doesn’t even beat z goku?
W vid bro🙏 boutta be the next officialdivine
On bro, but did you know we collabed on a video ? In fact we are very good friends, he lets me use his clips
yoo W🙏
This Guy Nearly Got Divine And Kazi On Trouble.
😭goku glaze is over 9000
I always wondered why dragonball fans think its not fair to used a characters weakness against them in debate or powerscaling.
This phenomenon should be studied because it defies all common sense but the dragon ball fans cannot see their mistake
What weakness are u referring to ??
@@drip_sauce7967 i mean theres tons of them. But lets take the goku can’t survive in space weakness. Frieza exploited this and one shotted ssj blue vegeta.
Theres the caught off guard weakness where goku is basically human level if his guard is down, we saw this weakness exploited by a common ray gun.
He’s gullible and weak to poison
Tons of weakness to be exploited and fans pretend they dont exist
@@drip_sauce7967 see i told you that yall pretend they dont exist. To this day there isn’t a single fan that would even entertain the reality of those weaknesses exist.
@@userofsharinganFrieza never one shotted SSJB Vegeta 😭, while yes he let his guard down that’s due to his ki being lowered. Saitama can’t breathe in space either. . Dunno what you’re on about.
@@Monkes23 bro you are tripping, saitama fought garou in space. 😂😂 and frieza did one shot vegeta remember whis had to rewind time.
Me personally I got Goku at 7 layers into Outer, but details, shmetails
Ain't make much difference if he already solos
It’s actually sad that Saitama fans gotta make fan made versions of saitama just for him to try and be stronger then Goku😭
No Need, Canon Saitama Already Beats Goku.
@@mrsketchysketch680jajajaja Good Joke man
@@mrsketchysketch680Narrative scaling? Because that the only way you can save Saitama,s weak ass and even that just gives the character R>F transcendence over the verse.
@@mrsketchysketch680yikes idk about that one man
And sadder that cannon superman still solos that even divine kazi mid sause had to ignore all the other statements for dc
Bro is correct 100% Love Saitama but I Love Goku More. Just gonna say but most Saitama fans Glaze hard
The DC slayer is back.
Peak as hell 🔥🔥🙏
Lmao
Cc goku vs terra 3 saitma
ChatGPT
Comparing CC Goku (Composite Canon Goku) and Terra 3 Saitama involves looking at their feats, abilities, and overall power levels across various continuities and interpretations. Here's an analysis:
CC Goku’s Feats and Abilities:
1. Super Saiyan Transformations:
Ultra Instinct: Allows Goku to react automatically to threats without needing to think, giving him extreme speed and agility beyond the limits of most beings.
Super Saiyan Blue and Ultra Instinct: Both forms significantly enhance his strength, speed, and durability, making him a multiversal threat.
2. Speed:
Faster than Light: Goku has demonstrated speed far exceeding the speed of light, especially in his higher transformations. He's able to cross vast distances in the blink of an eye.
3. Destructive Capacity:
Universal+: Goku’s strongest attacks, like the Universal Spirit Bomb and the Kamehameha, have the potential to destroy entire universes. In the Battle of Gods arc, the shockwaves from his fight with Beerus threatened the entire universe.
Potentially Multiversal: Goku's power continues to grow, and in various interpretations, he's seen as a multiversal threat, capable of influencing multiple universes.
4. Combat Skill:
Expert Martial Artist: Goku is one of the most skilled fighters in the multiverse, combining raw power with strategic combat techniques.
5. Energy Manipulation:
Ki Control: Goku can manipulate ki to enhance his abilities, fire energy blasts, and even create barriers.
6. Immense Durability and Endurance:
Survival Against Universal Threats: Goku has survived energy blasts that could destroy universes, fought for hours without rest, and continued to grow stronger through battle.
Terra 3 Saitama’s Feats and Abilities:
1. Outerversal Strength:
Transcending Dimensions: Saitama operates beyond all conventional dimensions, making him an outerversal entity. He has destroyed infinite-dimensional structures and transcended conventional limits.
2. Surviving Extreme Dimensional Compression:
Beyond Space and Time: Saitama has survived being compressed from two to zero dimensions and continued to function in a higher, more profound universe.
3. Reality-Warping Resistance:
Immune to Manipulation: Saitama resists reality manipulation, including attacks that rewrite his settings and statistics. He has even erased the pages of his narrative to counter an attempt to erase him.
4. Defeating Higher-Dimensional Entities:
God-Level Threats: Saitama has defeated 4th-dimensional gods and beings with powers beyond conventional understanding.
5. Destruction of "THE BOX":
Outerversal Impact: Saitama destroyed "THE BOX," an infinite-dimensional structure containing an entire omniverse, a feat considered outerversal.
6. Surviving and Thriving in the ZERO DIMENSION:
Zero-Dimensional Existence: Saitama can create and survive in the ZERO DIMENSION, a place where conventional beings with shape and size cannot exist.
7. Combat Against 6th-Dimensional Power:
Overcoming Cosmic Garou: Saitama fought and defeated Cosmic Garou, who had received power from a 6th-dimensional being.
Comparative Analysis:
1. Dimensional Influence:
CC Goku: Operates within the multiversal level, with the potential to affect multiple universes.
Terra 3 Saitama: Operates at an outerversal level, transcending conventional dimensions and affecting infinite-dimensional structures.
2. Speed and Reaction Time:
CC Goku: Has faster-than-light reflexes and combat speed, particularly in Ultra Instinct.
Terra 3 Saitama: While Saitama's speed isn’t explicitly quantified, his outerversal nature implies speed beyond conventional limits, likely surpassing Goku's.
3. Destructive Power:
CC Goku: Capable of universal to potentially multiversal destruction.
Terra 3 Saitama: Capable of outerversal destruction, including the annihilation of infinite-dimensional structures.
4. Durability and Endurance:
CC Goku: Can survive universal-level threats, extreme energy blasts, and continuous combat.
Terra 3 Saitama: Survived being compressed from two to zero dimensions, resisted reality-warping attacks, and continued to function in higher dimensions.
5. Reality-Warping and Manipulation:
CC Goku: Has some resistance to reality-warping but can be affected by beings like Zeno.
Terra 3 Saitama: Highly resistant to reality manipulation, capable of countering narrative erasure and other forms of reality-warping.
Conclusion:
Terra 3 Saitama would likely have the upper hand in this matchup due to his outerversal abilities, resistance to reality manipulation, and feats that transcend conventional dimensional and multiversal boundaries. While CC Goku is immensely powerful, especially with Ultra Instinct and his multiversal influence, Terra 3 Saitama’s ability to operate beyond all dimensions and affect infinite-dimensional structures places him on a level that Goku, as powerful as he is, would struggle to match.
In a battle between the two, Terra 3 Saitama's outerversal feats and reality-warping resistance would likely give him the victory.
thats wrong on so many levels that it didnt even get the characters right 😭🙏
@@RektNoSweat Take the time to read it, it does
@@alejondrobarragan2004 what does cc in cc goku stand for then?
Appeal to false authority
DRIP_sauce nice video I see your back in action.
Hope of the universe vs cope of the universe
If we take the growth chart shown in the Garou fight at face value then how would be roughly 63 times stronger than when he started the fight and roughly 32 times stronger than the serious punch squared. Not saying that there is anyway shape or form that he would win just that I think he would have easily been able to have done the multi galaxy feat by himself by the end of the fight.
really it could be closer to 79 time the start of the fight since base is roughly 1/5 of the square rather than the math of 1/4 of the square I showed earlier still gets stomped by base Goku with no arms, legs, blindfolded and sick after a hard fought battle.
@@mittenscuddle9591I think Goku would find it harder to move than the battle itself.
@@yeikelamores6085 can fly, can bite, can shoot blast out of his mouth
Common W Drip Sauce
Goku solos 🗣🔥
Drip goat have uploaded w edit Goku slam
They really gotta make up fake saitama’s to beat Goku 😂 that fanbase is pathetic.
And still fucking lost!
@@LethalgoldYes, that's the best of all, despite being Super OP and Wank Fanfiction versions, they still lose against canon Goku
Look who's talking 💀
@@yeikelamores6085Bro Saitama broke his limit, which means, he can use infinite strengh, so Just Saitama smokes Goku, Terra 2 Saitama, Smokes Goku Even more and Terra 3 Saitama, Goku Will just unalife him self.
@@guil123 Infinite strength is just universal+, so total fodder, do you know anything about Goku?
I would if you could please do a video on medaka box anime character najimi ajimu and her true powers and abilities please vs goku
Yeah, i will when i scale jump force goku, she is relevant to his scaling
@@drip_sauce7967can you do Alien X vs Goku ? Pls
Drips videos always feel like xmas presents because of how good they are
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@@drip_sauce7967 link to discord?
the downside of being a goku fan is not finding any challenge for goku outside his verse...😔
Yeah, true
does reality warpers count
Dc verse:
@@mhanimations-vh2lg Goku defeats most reality warpers easily
@@Jinglethealmighty No challenge yet
I would love to see every version of Goku battle each other to see which version of goku is the strongest and which is the weakest
saitama fans that say non canon stuff counts after making terra 4 gazillion when they see dbh: fuck
That's there way to cope because they know Canon base Goku Beats Canon Saitama
Fr
Why can't both communities just stop comparing characters-
Oh I forgot..
They got no lives and probably isn't too productive in life
Didn't graduate none of that
@@MR_LoreYTI'm debunking this reply:
Dragon Ball fans WAS usually chill but they're menaces when it comes to scaling. They take scaling very personally. So when OPM fans, JJK fans, MHA fans and ETC started talking BS and called DB "fodder", DB fandom started to one by one bully all the fandoms. This caused a whole war and DB fandom hating the OPM fandom. But what did you expect? Dragon Ball is what? 40 years old? What did people think was gonna happen if they compare anime from like a couple of years ago to a legendary anime that inspired many animes? This isn't glazing, it's just a brief history lesson.
Goku is busted man
Real
He is weak barley universal
@@DarkTemple34smh
@@GOKU_SLAMS_YOuR_FAVRIOTE_VERSE We can debate on it drop that discord
@@DarkTemple34jajajaja Good Joke
LMFAO nice BTW Extreme Mega Ultra Wank on Saitama's Part Too much Salt ypu didn't Add BTW uesh Limbsless GOATKU 🐐 One shots Mega Comp OPM😮🗿🙏🏻😂
Finally someone showed a debunk of Terra 3 Saitama 😭
GOATKU SOLOS YOUR FAV VERSE🔥🔥
Can you please make a video of Goku versus Rimuru and show them why goku slams please
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Iam such a fan of opm and still to this day rereading the monster association arc but damn saitama isnt touching goku
Same here , same
Conclusion
I am also rereading the monster association arc
@@drip_sauce7967 do not lie. You never ever read the series besides you searched after some feats
Can you do a Sonic vs Goku?
Sonic solos
Depends what version of sonic it is@@Fadhel-h3u
@@clossal nah every sonic loses
@@kingofdragons2552 typical fanboi
@@kingofdragons2552Sonic in the video games has a good chance of winning. Archie just obliterates, ( especially in Ultra as he has fate manip)
U never cease to amaze me with ur W Goku scaling😈😈😈
Good shit bro, we need to get on VC again😈
Finally, I was really looking forward to your video about Saitama Terra 3, fans have been getting annoying lately about it like Saitama Boundless or shit like that
I also like how you said something true, Opm fans can't debate
Terra 2 still solos tho
@@saneywaney terra 2 solos who? not goku lmao
@@Unknown-pg2ed yea he does, if you want me to explain in a long detailed paragraph, then I will
@@saneywaney terra 2 is barely even multiversal, goku has scaled way past that in base already lmao, not even counting the fan mangas that make him boundless
@@Unknown-pg2ed no way your using drip sauces shotty logic on "the after life is boundless", and terra 2 at max caps at hyperversal
when I saw those cardinals written there,I died
Keep making these please 🙏
W video🙌
As aleph set fan I agree (I’m into set theory)
W video true video goku solos
Drip I love (no HOMO)
You're literally saying wat all of us are thinking
I was how do u hav the venuman universe at boundless?
Simply having Cardinal numbers doesn't mean high outer, they never get back to me for some reason 🤷♂️
I even gave em an extreme high ball iteration jus to get terra 3 saitama to Outer and I was being hella generous whilst ignoring like 50 different realms and base goku jus matches that lvl of power 🤦♂️
Need to start using the high outer ssg goku scale 🤔
Maybe it's not nessessary but if they annoy me I'm doing it
They don't even know what Boundless is like, they just heard something that seemed strong and said Boundless.
@@yeikelamores6085 I'm quiet sure their definition of boundless is having no limits,
The fact Saitama broke his limiter, so they say he's boundless even though he ain't even broke the dimensional limiter yet he's somehow boundless, honestly I lose brain cells tryna understand saitama stans
@@bamboteeveeThat is pretty much how their fanbase works. Yes toxicity exists in every fanbase but not only do the OPM fanbase have toxic people everywhere(Not every single one of them is like this) and they are just dumb and hearing them scale Saitama would make you lose braincells. I am telling you if a character in the manga say's "Saitama could overcome anyone no matter how powerful" the fanbase would dickride that statement to oblivion because where that statement is obviously talking about the series, the fans would use that on every other series like dumbasses
2:49, Speed Of Light Of Their Universe, The Speed Of Light differs From Universe To Universe, Surpassing The Speed Of Light in Our Universe Results In Immeasurable Speed.
Time travel isn’t immeasurable speed 😂
@@drip_sauce7967 Prove That Claim.
@@drip_sauce7967 Even Official Divine Believes That It's Immeasurable Speed, Go And Read What Immeasurable Speed Is.
@@mrsketchysketch680time travel is an ability and no matter how much u can time travel with an ability, that scales u nowhere, u can only have immeasurable speed by moving forward or backwards in time with RAW speed
@@clossal He Travelled Through Backwards In Time Using Raw Speed....
Bro so good can you do Goku vs akuto sai or takato yogiru plesss man im begging you yori recap are so good plesss 😁
You should do LN Sung Jin Woo Vs DBS Goku (Both Anime And Manga). I think Sung Jin Woo is one of the fewer characters who can beat Goku.
Jin woo is fodder as fuck, he gets slammed by Z goku badly
@@drip_sauce7967 still, make a video about it.
Another Peak Drip_sauce video, as expected.
Goatku solos
No simply no.
Midku
@@Fadhel-h3u not mid but dosent solo.
@@Animeeditz1982easily does
@@Ichi-Bro no drip sauce got debunked by ntr antagonist and yes still using the arguments that got debunked.
Even though there's proof that goku is way stronger these saitama Blazers will never understand 😢
GFG is the strongest, and not just Strongest Goku 💀
He's by definition the strongest fictional Character hands down, blud views every fictional continuity as they are, Just fiction nothing more nothing less
Fax
Fire edits and mic sounds good
We making another bs fanmade version wit dis one🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
i dont agree with you but respect your opinion.
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Yoooo drip has members?!
1:59
This is absolutely crazy LOL
The funny thing is even if that Saitama scaled to boundless one it's an oc fallacy and two af stories goku and god fusion goku both still shit on him.
OC Fallacy Is Not A Real Fallacy, And If We Are Allowed To Use Wiki, Then Where The Fuck Is The OC Fallacy In The Literal List Of Fallacies, Why Has Philosopher Ever Written A Paper On The OC Fallacy? Oh Wait It Almost Sounds Like It's A Random Arbitrary Fallacy That is Made Up That Doesn't Even Make Any Sense, Something That A lot Of TH-camrs Already Debunked And It Doesn't Even Fulfil The Requirements For Being A Fallacy.
OC Fallacy is not a valid way to debunk anyone lol. It's not even a fallacy. It's basically dismissing everything from a story just because of what it is, that's an Origin Fallacy.
Boundless vs complex Multiversal
Saitama isn't complex multiversal
@@Murasaci I'm saying Saitama terra 3 (boundless) vs Goku (Complex Multiversal).
@@TheEraser312Terra 3 is 0D
@@TheEraser312debunked
@@MrDestroyah-kf6ovW
Gang can u plz debunk Kratos being outer
I already did years ago, scroll down
Canon Saitama Verse Gets Bodied
Terra 2 Verse gets bodied
Terra 3 verse gets bodied
And Thats All Fax
How is terra 3 saitama bodies by goku lmao???nahh dbz fans have lost their minds after this fan version🤣🫵🏻
Omg did you even watch the video cope harder😂@@afzalahmad9597
@@DionAnims yo all these new generations of Anime watchers dont know sh!t about dbz
@@GokuSolosOpmVersefr
Imagine Goku training Saitama tho that would be intresting...🤔
Saitama could use that unused potential and get stronger then we got the trio
Bro don't get me started with my boy broly still being trained AND I CANNOT WAIT FOR THEM TO SHOW BROLY WITH GOD KI
@@MR_LoreYT dang dawg you should have a streak of being to every comment section on this vid
w video
Bro roasted kidtama fans hard ngl
Keep up the god work 🔥
Wtf is kidtama?
@@Fadhel-h3uhe basically saying that Saitama fans are Kids ( whats true)
@@GokuSolosOpmVersesame thing with dragon ball fans
However both fan base are just immature asf
"Saitama solos this🤓"
No..
"Goku solos that🤡"
Meanwhile the character themselves aren't even that bad the fan base brings shame and ruins the animes reputation
It's hurroundous🤦♂️
@@MR_LoreYT ok?
@@GokuSolosOpmVerse I mean, he’s not wrong.
PLEASE do a video on cc goky hes cannon now
He’s always been canon, and YES , i am doing a video on it don’t worry, I already scripted it
You Cool yeah you absolutely
Drip i respect you bro you always best bro
no limbs , no eyes bro i died laughing🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Common Drip Sauce W
Man these Saitama fans just can't expect the truth and they then make fake Saitamas
And get there ass kicked by the cannon goku ha! Pethetic 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A lot of them are mad over fan made Saitama
Bro Highly Lowballed Goku Ngl 😭😭
I thought exactly the same, but I like to see how even a lowball Goku beats all versions of Saitama
It isn’t a lowball
@@drip_sauce7967 Destroying Afterlife would Be high Outerversal bare minimum i think so or just correct me if i am wrong.
High ball Goku
@@flowclown9179 Not even remotely close to Highball
Goku is beyond boundless. Terra 3 saitama is not even planetary because he didn't even destroy a single planet. On the other hand Goku destroyed infinite realities and timelines and also infinite multiverses and infinite Omniverses . So Goku solos Saitama.Goku even solos jesus and God. Goku is the one above all
@@anshumondolakasharia Go outside touch some grass.
@@Jèet689Krit was a joke 😰 😭 for the ones who overrated Goku
Make a video on scp vs db
Saitama is the one punched man....
Aka the man who gets one punched by goatku
Common DripGoat W 🥱
5$ there's atleast 3 hate comments from toddlers saying "bUt sAiTAma haS inFinTE POwer" or something stupid like saitama has toon force.
even if he had infinite power, it's fodder against Goku
There’s nothing beyond infinite power. Saitama can one punch anything if he so wished to which is unquantifiable. Therefore, saitama’s power level cannot be scaled. Also, saitama solos all versions of goku.
Goku is above infinity cope@Jimmoieie
Saitama would just one punch him.
@@Jimmoieiedeluded 😂 typical Saitamatards
Death Battle state Superman can defeat Goku and Saitama can defeat superman. Also, Saitama is Toonforce base.
Wait 8 layers Into outer?? I thought he was high Outerversal
The man was doing a massive lowball so as not to make Saitama fans feel bad
Low balled ig
@@yeikelamores6085its not a lowball, thats where goku scales
He isn’t, nobody in fiction except fan made verses get to high outer
@@drip_sauce7967 Let's be honest, you can get much higher than that
The yap is crazy.If the writer decides that saitama wins or goku wins, that means he WINS, thats it no more talking.Stay mad
W DRIP🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Guys please read these on your own. This brake down is very bad and biased against Saitama. Look at OFFICIAL DIVINE for a real non biased review and breakdown. Video is good tho just misleading.
I saw the video, the final verdict is absolutely wrong, everything he said was just layers in Outerversal, not even remotely close to High Outerversal,It doesn't help that Divine Wank some characters more than once to make the video more interesting, you can ask Drip, who Divine said this to.
Nigga this debunk is accurate , you didn’t refute anything but just claimed it was biased, divine is my friend we collabed on the goku vs superman video and we talk all the time, he told me he only wanked saitama to keep the fanbase 😭😭😭😭😭because he wants money, he does this with any verse you see that he scales above what i scale them, I AMP DIVINE ON DEBATING
@@drip_sauce7967drip are you black?
@@drip_sauce7967i need to know
@@drip_sauce7967also RIP you friend
hey man... atleast terra 3 saitama could do 100x more push ups then you could...
the COPING by the goku fans is crazy
saitama solos
change my mind
Not surprised, Goku solos as usual.
What's that sus pfp and nickname
(I feel a deja vu for some reason)
Damn, this guy has zero knowledge about scaling😂
Pretty much.
Yep i agree personally that Saitama’s serious punch clash was multiversal+
@@THE_HONORED_ONE7 Probably complex multiversal+
Instead of saying he has zero knowledge try debunking him. He gave points without just saying Saitama can't beat goku
@@vertachi8066 he made a video to debunk saitama, and u think i will waste my time just to make a video ? And it’s pretty much both of u have zero knowledge, the moment he was debunking ichigo i knew he is full of bs😂. Besides manga saitama is way above Goku.
Goku slams him infinite layers into no concept of diff💀 Ik i still like Saitama but no, he can't stand against someone who is outerversal and non-canon forms of saitama will lose.
Smart Man
Another drip W
W vid disney sauce
Holly W
Goku solo Saitama 😂
LMFAO Goten Does 🗿🙂🙏🏻
No Saitama one punches like he does to all of db
@@GokuZX2000 indeed.
@@Narcissistic_pyschotic get Saitmid past to outerversal then talk.
@@tobimadara7539 lmao bro even Uni is impossible 🙏🏻😭😂
Normal Saitama>>>comp goku
Disagree=🤡🤡🤡
@@AJBL.debateeditz Diagree 😂
Normal saitama is not even getting past z, yet
@@OyinkansolaAgboola cap
Saitama isn’t even above namek goku
@@MrDestroyah-kf6ov cap Saitama (000000000.0 percent of Saitamas power) >>>>> comp Goku and his comp verse at (full potential and full power)
Would never believe a Goku simp
I might be blind bc at first I didn't see any scans when I went through the vid but now I see them.
Chat am I blind?????
💀
Maybe you miss them on accident
Scan Blind😅🙂??
Yo, Drip, what tiering system do you use? VSBW, CSAP or some other one? If it's an alternate one, drop the full name for it fr.
Axilities wiki , its a private doc file made by my teacher
@@drip_sauce7967damn then it must be peak fr
It's time to make the Saitama fans cope. Keep up the good job, Drip Sause!
Vs battle
Says Terra 3 is A-1
Other websites say terra 3 is A-0
And Goku is C-6
Meanwhile there meat riders
"Debunking" tf you mean those websites show accurate tiering and y'all think Goku can beat Saitama terra 3
Zeno: erases
Dbs fans: HELL YEAH! STRONGEST EVER
Garou does the same but for saitama: That's just changing reality
Tf you mean mister meat riders
He can cut anything and Saitama was like no i wouldn't get cut and get back his arm like bruh this shouldnt even be a debate
Vsbw is accurate???? Tf? Are u high??? We can debate Goku vs Saitama lol he aint doing shit to Goku
@@partyvietnamcommunist4829 Goku is planet level lmao, when a planet blew up Vegeta died and Vegeta is close to power levels of Goku, you might say "he died because no air" that's even more shameful and if he died because of no air why did frieza die? Lmao
@@immobilegrain8809 Goku is outerversal
@@partyvietnamcommunist4829 no proof lol
Wow I didn't know you could get Goku that high I'll have to look more into this
Ur new here lol
This was a lowball.
@@drip_sauce7967 i knew about the otherworld statements but most people don't really use that plus your normal Multiversal Immeasurable speed Goku is enough for most matchups especially anime ones where it's rare for characters to even be comfortably planetary 💀
@@drip_sauce7967perfected 404 and faker 404 vs goku pls
@@drip_sauce7967and some people are calling you a fan boy who don't know how to scale
Are we getting goku vs sun wukong?
Non canon fodder gets destroyed by any version of goku
Canon Saitama still Smokes Goku, in the canon versión they Will never be able to show the full power of Saitama cuz he broke his limit, which means he basicly have infinite strengh, also Goku fans make Goku versions to beat Saitama like that shi## of the Super sayian infinite
@@guil123😂 your delusional in every way.
@@guil123he's still 3d
@@brandonlane4525 Lol, You havent seen Saitama, he can adapt to any situación, he basicly has infinite power
@@guil123 🤦♂️ infinite yet struggles to kill beings who don't have it crazy and even then base dbz kakarot solos anyway.
Drip only speaks fax 🔥 goku solos
Is someone can explain how we can apply the cosmology of DBH to DBS pls
Its coming
Make a video on sung jin woo
Hey drip cause can you debunk rimuru vs Goku and anos vs Goku people are saying that they slam Goku easily 😂😂
People who say that don't know anything about Goku's scale
@@yeikelamores6085 or they do, but they have an opposing viewpoint
@@Am-fp7pn I don't know, 90% of the time they are people who have no knowledge of DB
If we're using fan made manga go read on beyond dragon ball super
Wahoo.
Goku Solos
The creator of opm said that future anime saitama is stronger is stronger than terra 2 saitama who scaled to outer
1) prove that
2) no he isn’t, that would be death of the author since saitama has no feats to suggest that
3) terra 2 isn’t outer, he’s 4d at best
I gotta him at Multiversal (terra 3)