The 2020 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk is Cool but Compromised
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- I spend a week with the 2020 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk with its new 1.3L 4 cylinder turbo engine and discover that while the Renegade is still unique and fun in this quickly expanding subcompact SUV segment, it requires some compromises. If you're interested in off-road performance or the Jeep character, the Renegade is still a great choice, but with many newer and more impressive competitors offering more features for less money, the Renegade is now becoming a tougher sell as it ages. What do you think of the 2020 Renegade?
Time stamps:
0:00 Exterior
1:46 Interior
2:34 Initial driving impressions
5:15 Acceleration
7:08 Handling
9:07 4WD impressions
10:34 Other impressions
11:21 Fuel economy
13:35 Pricing
16:16 Competitor comparisons
17:34 Final thoughts
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Every time I see Matt upload a review, I think to myself that all is good in the world right now and there's hope of us getting back to normal soon. Thank you Matt for keeping us entertained and informed during these days. Good luck buddy.
Thank you for continuing to watch the videos!
I love it how you keep a straight smiling face 😅😅
1.3L Turbo is definitely worth the money, its a vast improvement over the 2.4L Tigershark from a reliability perspective. 2.4L Tigershark to this day burns oil like crazy if you get a bad one (and there are many bad ones), there's even a class action lawsuit filled on it. MSRP on them is nuts. Wait for the rebates, etc, and you can buy a Renegade Trailhawk for under $24k many times throughout the year. As for the 'spinning the tires on wet pavement', if you had done ANY research, you'd know that its a FWD vehicle with a disconnected rear under normal driving conditions. So yes, its gonna spin the front tires once in a while. All you do is put it in 4WD and it's in 4WD...simple!
It literally has. 4WD Lock button that he points his camera at and then talks about wheels skidding out and being unsure of its 4WD...
Also, not his fault, but MSRP on these is way off reality. Was in dealership yesterday and the tag price after rebates was $24,500 and included the larger screen nav option, and blindspot detection safety option installed. Add a sunroof and you can get out the dealership under $27,000 before taxes.
It's funny because the first Jeep dealer I visited said the opposite and that they don't order 1.3T versions. I bought it at another dealer that had a TH in stock on special( I got it for the same prices as a Sport 4X4). When I took it to the first dealer to do the first service, they didn't have the correct oil in stock.
I believe he was commenting on how slow the AUTO 4wd system is to react to wheel slippage. He obviously knows you can hit the Lock button, but he had it in auto and experienced wheel slippage on a wet road. I think his point was be aware that the auto 4wd will still allow significant wheel slippage..?...?
So weird, was just watching your old review on the Renegade yesterday! Thanks for another one!
The only one is the one to get, especially since resale is so poor. Pick up a 1.4T sport dirt cheap, chip it, put on nicer wheels and an aftermarket headunit, voila.
LOL that's pretty cool ('to new adventures'). I don't know why but reminds me of the "ground speed" on Ecoboost Mustangs. ROFL Matt your face right before you started the back road acceleration was priceless. You were like 'this 1.3L is gonna throw me back.' 😂
Thanks for stopping by man!
Matt, if you buckle your seat belt and push the gas the parking break disengages. I thought that feature was stupid in my 200 until I figured that out.
Nice review. I would add the Crosstrek as a competitor. I've had one for 5 years and its a solid, well built car. I take it on the beach a lot and I used to be tentative drive in the really deep sand and ruts but now I'm not sure I can get stuck... knock on wood. The Crosstrek isn't necessarily fun to drive but it is a fun vehicle. I don't love it but I do really like it. Of the couple dozen cars and trucks that I've owned, it's the longest I've ever owned a vehicle... I'll be passing on the Jeep but not sure what I will get.
Matt, I have watched almost every review you have done from the beginning and I'm still impressed with the idea that you really don't get it in some circumstances .. not even restricted to the Jeep products. Trail-Rated=offroad capable=lower mileage=slight squirming on the road .. etc. I didn't see any offroad in the review so entire point of the vehicle was missed. This is not to be critical, but it might be prudent to remember their mission when doing "offroad" vehicles. Also, I'm not a Jeep owner at the moment, but a majority of the time, the "buy in" money is pretty well returned at resale. I drove a '95 jeep for 20 years and lost $2000 in the resale from what it cost me to buy.
I drove the Fiat version of this on the Stelvio Pass when I visited Italy and Switzerland a few years ago. It was spacious, but so slow.
Matt the mitsubishi mirage has a 1.2 n/a really small u should review one of them my girlfriend have on ill get 50 mpg on it
The lock 4wd actually just makes the center diff activate. It activates the awd. It “Subaru-izes” the system so to speak.
How do you refresh with a smaller engine. .?
I don't know why people who do these reviews say there is turbo lag on the 1.3 turbo. I test drove a 2023 Trailhawk and a 2020 Limited edition and both did not have any turbo lag with the 1.3. they both had very good acceleration. I drove a Trailhawk right after I drove the 2 liter 2023 compass, and that compass was god awfully slow acceleration compared to the Renegade. The limited renegade was so surprising quick, I blew a Crosstrek away at the light.
Great review matt!! Do you plan on reviewing a seltos with the 1.6t? Really considering trading my sportage for one just wanted a review from you.
Thanks! I’ll be posting a Seltos 1.6 review next month!
The stock tires are Falken Wildpeak
Is it worth the upgrade vs 2 wheel drive models
A smaller engine is actually more practical because it gets better fuel economy while in town but when the turbo kicks. You get even better economy due to power to weight and. Rotational mass ots all around cheaper. But also up in the hire rpm you get more desity more compression and there is more room to grow with tunes and upgrades with a turbo'd vehical.
hi Matt. nice vid. liked b4 watching b/c I knew it was going to be good
I wonder if anyone bought the base model, slammed it and widebody kit it out? maybe airbags or hydraulic?
The front still reminds me of the 70s Gremlin
I had a 2016 Renegade "Dawn Of Justice" version and in 2018 I traded it for a Subaru Crosstrek. I prefer the all wheel drive system of the Subaru and the gas mileage is much better.
I assume it’s also a million times more reliable
@@kevs2good133 Subaru is near the bottom on reliability unfortunately, as is the Renegade. Both are also equally slow. The discontinued Alltrack is the much better vehicle, but consumers are weird on their preferences.
DumbDuck44 question Subaru reliability but then recommend a VW? Lay off the crack....
i was excited about the suzuki jimny.... WAS
The renegade is not full time AWD. Its front wheel drive bias unless it detects excessive slip, or you put it into 4WD locked. That's why you experienced the slippage.
Most FWD based AWD cars react much faster than allowing the front wheels to actually burnout before engaging the rears
It literally has. 4WD Lock button that he points his camera at and then talks about wheels skidding out and being unsure of its 4WD...
Also, not his fault, but MSRP on these is way off reality. Was in dealership yesterday and the tag price after rebates was $24,500 and included the larger screen nav option, and blindspot detection safety option installed. Add a sunroof and you can get out the dealership under $26,000 before taxes.
Imagine if FCA makes a trackhawk version of this.
They would probably use the 2.0 eTorque engine from the Cherokee/Wrangler. 270 hp would be fast in this.
You could disengage the parking braks a
utomatically, you just need to wait for car to load the sensors - it engages becoz u put up into drive right away..so thays the safety feature..
Jeep bring back the I6 AMC motor
I don't see why anyone would shop Hyundai against Jeep when you can't remove the roof or take it off road. If you took the Hyundai off road, the next stop would likely be the pick a part yard.
Let’s be honest most people buying a Renegade aren’t going to take it off-roading. Most people that buy this car get it to just say they have a “Jeep” while posing with a starbucks latte in their hand for a selfie not knowing it’s a glorified rebadged Fiat product. Even if they do decide to take it off-roading, this car isn’t great if you’re doing some actually serious off-roading stuff. Most people are going to use this POS to drive around town and in that case a Hyundai would be better and more reliable overall.
BoldNewBranFlakes not true. A simple search on TH-cam “ Jeep renegade off road “ proves you wrong. Nice try though.
I'd rather pay for a Kia Seltos than this piece of shit rebranded Fiat. And do you really think people go offroading in this thing? It's a trendy subcompact for hippies and grandmas. People who actually go offroading will buy a Wrangler and modify it. Or they will buy an older pickup truck and modify it.
@@nicktune1219 truth. KIA is far and away more reliable and economical than fiat. Hell, the seltos manages to be faster, more reliable, longer warranty, and better fuel economy than the renegade and is cheaper as well.
@@Natethegreat200c agree!! a simple search on youtube should suffice
Renegade renegade renegade 👯♂️
demonstration of the Jeep on the asphalt? It was not made for this.
i can tell it was a pain to make this video
MSRP is 36k on these today 😭
Matt, I think your videos might get more attention if these videos were structured a little more thematically. Many of the hottest reviewers seem to treat these videos like essays, they have their thesis about the car that they want to get out and then all of their criticisms / compliments coalesce to support that thesis. Some of the info you convey comes a little rapid fire, almost scatter shot; "X is nice but Y is not the best. A is great but B could use improvement."
Also don't be afraid to be opinionated! I know its not your style to be harsh, but sometimes your messaging can be a little confusing. For instance, when talking about the handling you started by talking about how the limits are very low and the handling is poor compared to competitors, but then you ended by saying all the renegade trims handle well and that its a nice handling car.
Merge two companies with poor reputations and what do you get? FCA needs to resolve their quality/reliability issues. Lots of talk from FCA but reports don’t lie.
Not much more money you can get a volvo xc40.
Your MPG is low. I just got a 2021 Trailhawk and I'm getting over 26 MPG.
The comments say it all: there isn't any reliable car in this class. Apparently. I can't even believe the level of hate for this vehicle. It's actually so bad that maybe I'll just go bicycle touring and travel that way instead of buying a subcompact jeep.
Yeah but that Nissan nor it’s transmission will last as long as the Jeep. Plus it’s a more premium vehicle.
Both are POS, this Jeep engine will explode quicker than the Nissan and the Nissan transmission will fail before this Jeep. It’s like comparing sewer water to garbage water.
Let’s just say the 1.3 torque makes this feel faster than the 2.4 at least for me when I test drove them both
Too many Zonks for me !
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Another underpowered, lower end Jeep product. No reason they could not give it a little more power to make it livable.
He just said it torque is great. Listen to the video.
@@Natethegreat200c Car and Driver indicates it has a 9.0 sec 0-60, and that the upgrade to the 1.3T over the 2.4na is not worth it. Wishing for a better optional engine...
digitaldoc100 what car in this segment is 7 seconds ? You would have to go up to the escape , Cherokee, rav 4 (even that is slow as fuck) and CRV.
Kona 1.6T is under 7 seconds.
@@MattMaranMotoring Thanks Matt. The Mazda cx3 and cx30 both are faster as well, and the cx3 has quite a bit less power on paper.
review a Toyota Cressida
Why? Its not a USDM vehicle.
Jeep trailhawks are the fastest depreciating cars in America. The person that buys a new one must seriously be an idiot.
If anyone buys a used one is an idiot too. Jeeps (not even a real Jeep anymore just the name) are all trash. This fiat is horrible.
Matt, I love how you are searching for something good to say about this overpriced P.O.S. You couldn't give me this vehicle. Great open minded review.
VIDEOHEREBOB 💯 facts. I can’t even think of situation where someone even considers this trash
All these vehicle manufacturers are really screwing up anymore. is there actually anything that doesn’t have some trash four cylinder? I can see little cars but SUV’s? Come on. I’m not a genius when it comes to vehicles but I know darn well there can’t be this many people wanting these weak cars but they keep making them. These car companies are ruining themselves in that way
You obviously live in a city
It's great for living in the city but playing out in the middle of nowhere. Its easy to whip around in heavy traffic, has car comfort on long trips, and it's completely capable on the trails. So long as you keep it realistic. This jeep does just fine. Drove from SC to Texas through forest service roads and through the Ozarks and it did just fine. Crossed some creeks and climbed some rutted out muddy hills and never got stuck. Plus, the wheelbase is narrower than most so you get fresh contact on most trails if you select the right line. People get so caught up in the vehicle that they forget wheeling requiring actual knowledge and skill. Or you could just get the biggest rig and winch and just keep pulling yourself out of places you shouldn't have been anyway and then claim you're the king of wheeling. No, that makes you the king of getting stuck and getting out. Just like with everything in life, personal preference.
Weak engine and weak fuel economy for $35,000. I'd rather buy a used RAV4.
Yes for the price you could get a rav 4 with much better mileage and reliability
I didn't pay any were near that price for my Trailhawk. Mine was on special and was close to base for a Trailhawk. The Only optional equipment was the Sting-Gray paint and preferred package 22C(Cold Weather Group II & Passive Entry Remote-Start Package) The sticker price was $30,625, but I paid about the same price as a Sport 4X4.
Hello FCA..... give us the dam diesel Europe has
The moped of suvs
Fiat 500!
Meh.. stretched fiat 500 I'll pass
If you want a crossover in this class to go off road what do you buy? The damn 500
Nathaniel Rudolph lmfao. Maybe if the off road is a junk yard.
Kevs2good you watch too much Scotty Kilmer.
This guys Is biased clearly
You call it a jeep but all I see is a fiat...
Fists don’t go off road. This does.
@@Natethegreat200c Okay. Now I see a fiat with 4wd...
Nathaniel Rudolph dude, Panda. Look it up!
Jake Kennedy what does the panda have to do with this. This is a dedicated off roader and this doesn’t share a platform with the panda.
@@Natethegreat200c I rented a Panda when I visited Europe. It's the same car. Same interior, but with Fiat logos. The AWD system is different, but the most of the parts, including the engine, are shared.
i think i will stick with my 2000 JEEP CHEROKEE XJ
The 2020 Cherokee is nice.
Good. Because most new Jeeps are just rebranded Fiats. They fall apart in a year.
Renegade: great song, terrible vehicle.
This would be a good vehicle if you could get a lightweight barebones 1.3T 6-speed version cheap, but they killed the manual and the 1.3T is only available on higher trims that are too heavy for its meager output.
You dont have a good understanding of how a turbo works.
My wife backed out of the driveway the other day in this vehicle and hit an empty small plastic recycling bin and it caused the entire rear bumper to cave-in and damage to the wheel wells just absolute plastic garbage
Does your wife know it has a backup camera or does she always just slam it in reverse without looking?
@@glohkamp the latter every time
fair lol@@stevekaufmann8109
Junk
If you don’t own one you can’t speak on it.
Ture
Not a very good review lot of inaccuracies and bizarre comparisons to other class brands that are questionable
God! They just can't update that old ugly key fob!
screams cheap. started with the key, then the stake to the heart was the front wheel spin for a "trailhawk"
too much blabla.
Will they ever actually change the design still an ugly little thing
I like the looks, what I don't like is the fact that the Tigershark engine is a oil guzzling piece of crap (class action lawsuit is ongoing), and while the 1.3T would be fine in a lighter base sport, its not powerful enough for a heavy version of the Renegade and feels sluggish with a slushbox that has too many speeds and always wants to be lugging the engine. Lastly, they have too many reliability issues with leaking sky panels and electrical gremlins.
Another trash vehicle
Just like the whole class.
Fiat trash
Jeep makes cool designs but they’re unreliable as fuck.
Italian made junk...notice the entire front grill is covered in plastic There's no way for air to circulate, especially sitting in traffic. I had a 2017 Latitude, the engine ran hot as did the lousy Z9 transmission. I traded it after two years.
I'm italian... I have the european version of Renegade Trailhawk: with the 2.0 turbodiesel 170hp engine I've never had such a overheating problem. You're welcome😑
@@lowrangemaniac5326 I'm not Italian, but my wife is (from the Abruzzo region, originally). Her FIAT Panda was an excellent, reliable little car. Our 2015 Renegade Trailhawk has been trouble-free for six years and 73,000 miles. No overheating issues, even when creeping along in low gear in searing California High Desert heat. It's one of the best vehicles I've ever had.
@@jerroldshelton9367 your wife did an excellent choise with the Fiat Panda... Beside my Renegade, we still have the original Fiat Panda from the 1997... A pure tank! And if you took the 4x4 version of the Fiat Panda, the original still, it could give so much troubles to a Wrangler beside the lacking of a propper low range gear... Ciao my friend!👋👋👋
@@lowrangemaniac5326 My wife's Panda was all-wheel drive. Unfortunately, it couldn't immigrate to the USA with her. So, our daughter who lives near Pescara has it now and uses it to get our grandkids to school.
My wife adored that car and a big part of that was due to it being trouble free.
@@jerroldshelton9367 I'm moved my friend... I'm so glad to know your experience with the little big Fiat Panda☺️☺️
Have a good day and a happy life...✌️✌️
I have to say I have not once seen a male driving one of these in my area.
I'd rather drive one of these than be caught in a Miata, beetle, or Mini.
7.16 take it straight and see if it climes, other wise is another lesbian car.
Dude...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON’T TALK SO FAST!!!! You’ve made progress but your introduction is still done a warp speed. I make my comment as I have friends who are not native English speakers and get lost throughout your videos.