South Africa Defense Forces Border War vs. Communism Angola
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- The South Africa Border War with Angola was a all out fight against communism and was fought between the South African Defence Force (SADF) and the Communist People's Liberation Army of Namibia (PLAN), an armed wing of the South West African People's Organisation (SWAPO).
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I´m originally from Cuba, I live in Europe, and I want to tell to the members of the SADF that fought in the border wars in the 70´s and 80´s: Thank you for taking a stand against communism in Southern Africa! The Soviet plan was to put in power and consolidate in the whole region secular dictatorships similar to the ones that existed in Europe. I know that you were not totally succesfully, but you foiled the original plans that were designed by the soviets and cuban goverments in the 1970´s!!
As an Ex Serviceman, I can only say we could have achieved anything, we were epic. greetings to all former SAAF personnel who served.
Thank you for your Service sir🤝🏼
These guys were an aggressive force. In all these videos I always see them on the attack and moving forward. Proper good work.
And that’s not some heroic footage made for propaganda purposes, it actually depicts reality. These guys went in and won. Every single time.
Almost always massively outnumbered, fighting in several countries at the same time, against the full military industrial might of the Soviet Union and Cuba, whilst under arms embargo, with only a tiny army, for 23 years.
Whatever one thinks of Apartheid, the SADF’s achievements are just insane. No other fighting force in all of human history even came close to how good these guys were.
I get tears in my eyes. brotherhood and awesome, all of them. To the guys I lost, RIP my brothers.
Proud to have been a member of 1st Parachute Battalion B company. 74/75. Active reserve till 83.
Did you serve with an Andre Snyman by any chance?
Dankie vir oom hulle my ghat het gegrip op daai aerie maar ek moes maar spring lol
@@alexvermaak1759 May I ask if this Snyman was a math teacher after the war ?
get fucked lol
May I ask if you killed a lot of blacks?
South Africa was a great country before the ANC, Salute to the old SADF from Morocco North Africa
I agree! South Africa was a great country during apartheid! That is, except for the black/colored South Africans who made of the vast majority of the country (83%). For them it was hellish nightmare. So no wonder the only people who miss apartheid are losers like you who aren’t even South African.
Yes🎉
Xurious is much appreciated:) Greetings from Serbia!
Love that old South African flag you guys!
Bart Gielingh
It's really about respect. Politics aside and whatever your persuasion, even if you're a bleeding heart leftist commie liberal you will respect that old flag. The new one? Although pretty represents a corrupt economy in decline and a failed state - not much to respect. I'm with you on that one.
@@tonydefresnaye7027 It's peculiar we don't hear that much from Johanna these days. With the change of flags, came the silence. And I wonder why that is. No offence man.
@@bartgielingh2212 No offence taken bro. People have different opinions and I respect that. Mine is that I don't have much to be proud of in the new flag and like you love the old one
@@tonydefresnaye7027 very true
@Seeing Red get your facts straight. The old flag represents a country that could get things done while the new flag represents a corrupt failed state
Fighting Marxism/Communism/Socialism is a gift from the Almighty. Much respect to the SADF.
Excellent use of Xurious music.
WISH EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD, fighting is the only better option, or being butchered physically or psychologically, make your pick
The fight is coming, you must understand that if we shoot the first shot there will be no support for us, be patient, people are mobilizing on both sides, you'll get your war. Oom sienar predicted ALL of this
@@alexvermaak1759 baie waar wat oom se daar gaan definitief i oorlog kom
THANK YOU SA FOR FIGHTING THE COMMUNIST AGRESSION!!
That was a white apartheid government that stole south african land.... It doesn't exist anymore its was kicked out
@@quan-oh-re2258 If we weren't fighting communism then who was the white guys I was fighting in Southern Angola? They spoke spanish and were kitted in Russian equipment? They were the Cubans. And we captured a couple of them. Please go talk shit somewhere else...I was there and engaged in contacts with the communists.
@@quan-oh-re2258 The SADF had verry little right to be where? South-West Africa of Angola? The government was quite open about their operations in SWA and Angola against communism. Only during operation savanna did the SADF go into Angola covertly and denied involvement. Both sides in the war had dirty hands. SWAPO killed many headmen and abducted many women and children of the namibian population. This is a fact and is documented. Sadf units burned down kraals if the people were caught supporting or hiding Swapo terrorists
@@quan-oh-re2258 In fact it was on the TV news and in the newspapers. I was there during operation Modular, Hooper and Packer as a National Service infantryman with 4 SAI attached to 61Mech and it was in the newspapers when we had a showdown against the Cubans. Some people refuse to believe that we were only fighting communism, they always try to imply and in insinuate that we there for other deviously plans. If we weren't only fighting communism what else do you suggest were we doing there ?
@@quan-oh-re2258 Betrayed and brainwashed indeed...But there was communists there and MANY of them, Cubans, East Germans and Soviets...I only saw the Cubans and Soviets. I doubt if I the SADF's role was to corrupt Namibia with Apartheid...If it was the case then I am surprised that so many black people enlisted into the SADF. At one point more than 40% of the soldiers in the operational area were black and brown. By the way. I have a lot of newspaper clippings about the war...I can forward coppies to you
My dad fought in this war and he survived
We need this powerful army to rise again black white Indian and coloured and fight these communists that are ruining our beautiful land
I'm sure I can speak for the Boers when I say that when the time comes, we will be right there with you, shoulder to shoulder.
Eff needs to go!
Greetings from Europe. Salute to the African whites. Let us save the Western.
we were fighting communism not black people Jacinto Esteva &me ons vir jou SA
I'm a black dude and I respect your comment
The communists didn't enslave or colonize Afrika, the capitalists did!!! You were on the wrong side of history! May you burn in hell!!!
Sekou Kasimu chonkie donkey go read "Gulag Archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn" The man was awarded nobel literature prize.
@@sekoukasimu7247 clown of the day
@@sekoukasimu7247 You're burning on earth dumb ass loser.
Addicted to this.
Well you’re gonna love this one: m.th-cam.com/video/JwPoUnw3JZY/w-d-xo.html
Music choice is on the roof boetie
At 6:40 you don't even notice or see them.. Freaking awesome.
I am so glad a clear distinction can be made between the old SADF browns nutria uniforms and the new SANDF camo. The association is very relevant to efficiency or in the case of the latter INEFFICIENCY! The old browns nutria after a lot of use became sun bleached and very "used" and took on a whole look that blended in exceptionally well with the African bush. After 2 tours / approx 1 year in the Ops area, mine took on a very interesting "hue" from slightly darker in the front to almost khaki bleached on the shoulders and back. Stay well my friend.
Best wishes from England
@Robo Redneck what's that supposed to mean?
Beste weermag ooit
was
@Seeing Red at the time the SADF was one of the most highly regarded military forces in the world. Like many other smaller countries we fought the Cold War hot. We fought against Communism which was and still is an evil thing in this world. 32 Battalion was regarded as the best light infantry unit in the world.
Regarding the blood thirsty reputation, if you knew anything about wars in Africa you would know prisoners were seldom taken on both sides.
I suggest you read some books on the subject. There has always been a mutual respect for all the belligerents involved.
We were never defeated militarily. We voted for Apartheid to end.
@@jean-paultheron8415 I agree with 99% of what you have stated here. Unfortunately it has to be said that the "bloodless coup" of 1994 was also part of the agenda against white, conservative South Africa. Botha, De Klerk, Kissinger and those people connived behind the scenes to hand over a highly developed, well functioning western country over to communists. In that fashion we ultimately did lose the war.
Apartheid was a necessity.
The timing was not right for Rhodesia and South Africa: in China Mao was still alive,theSoviet Union still existed, also Chekoslovakia,East Germany and all the Central-EasternEuropean communist block.The terrorist had all the support from these countries !
Why didn't your government fight to end the policies that denied the local Blacks their rights? They could get no help from any nation in the west even when requested. Can you looking back blame them from getting help from communist countries? Put yourself in their shoes.
We defeated you easy! Now all you do is tell lies to your people. The Apartheid driven South African never Stood a chance. No Apartheid in Angola. Rather be a communist than a racist fuck!
@Jose Raul Miguens Cruz No he means the terrorists
De_matos and yet .... Africa and the Middle East flock to Europe and USA and western countries, knowing they’ll be treated better than they would if they flocked to Russia or China 🤔🤔
How come your Communist buddies don’t accept African and Middle eastern migrants? And migrants would prefer the so-called “racist” western nations? Even during Apartheid South Africa had an illegal immigration problem from the rest of Africa - yes ... black people illegally flocking to Apartheid South Africa for a better life! Facts are interesting huh?
The Soviets flooded the world with weapons. Godless communism would have failed in Central America, Africa and Southeast Asia. Those red bastards will burn in hell for their crimes.
Nice retro like music
Love the 80 s synthwave music
Interesting history though, but what is the name of the song in the video!???
Its identity evropa by xurious
My dad was conscripted to SADF in 1969. He would always tell me stories of the Angola days. This video does justice to the courage and pride our servicemen had, defending SA. 👍
My dad was in koevoet he was a medic op and once he got shot in his gun.
Good night my sweet Rhodesia
This is sa
What's the interview from?
I really wish a movie could be done about this... So wish.
A very well researched documentary with interviews was made not long ago "Angola" th-cam.com/video/mZpjk_QWpac/w-d-xo.html this is the trailer on TH-cam.
Would propably be racist...
I would love to wach it.
@@janoberholzer247 and
What Xurious song is this?
The song is Identity Evropa by Xurious. Sorry it took so long to get back to you.
Oh boy look at those S-Ranked soldiers
I was behind Soviet enemy lines foiled manny attacks on our troops
Yes, 61 Mech , 1985,86 Ops Packer 1988. Ek was daar !! 😀. Commies say we lost. If SA lost we would have been pushed back into Namibia, but instead we pushed the Commies all the way back through Mavinga through to Cuito, so where they get this sh1t that SA lost that war, also check losses both material and bodies. My SM always said " dont play with the lions balls".
If they won like they say and South Africa lost ,why this revenge or vendetta they have against South African whites by using propaganda on TV or in the media to brainwashing the black people into violence and murder against the white minority , to many of us it looks like sour grapes they did not win that is why they brought their war to the townships where they killed many innocent people that does share their ideologies ,as a matter of fact 20000 black people lost their lives in the township and at the death camps Quattro, by the their hands not the white police force ,they were called in to take the rap , saw this all in Tainted Heroes on you tube but like everything else it is now blocked.
I made a mistake I meant to say the people did "not share anc ideologies"
👍💪...
The first scene - is this from the movie?
At thy call
Ek is trots om te weet dat my pa en al 4 my ooms saam op daai grens van angola was en dat hulle hul alles sou doen om Suid Afrika veilig te hou... Wens net Suid Afrika se weermag was nou nog so goed soos wat dit toe was...want dan was ek nou al in di SADF...
Selle tjhom my pa ook
We defeat them, they came with all the logistics, but we PLAN we fought them with AK-47 and we managed till the 435 resolution
Ja boeta maar ek is baie bly die saNd is nou so klomp stront. Het jy daaraan gedink jy moes more teen so n gedissiplineerde, opgeleide weermag gaan veg ? Want dit is om die draai. Wees paraat ,nugter, waaksaam en Ken jou vyand! Stuur groete vir daai manne en sê dis maar net nog n buddy.
@@brucendjahera2819 you lying piece of trash. You assholes ran out of your shoes and throwing away your weapons . Those that did stay behind were killed any way. Then you hide between the locals women and children ! You coward ! You planted mines because u were to scared to pick a fight. Always running. You stupid asses couldn't even learn and apply what the Cubans and Russians were trying to teach you ! So you just admitted you were one of the runaway cowards !!!
@@brucendjahera2819Ndjahera indoctrinated much...
Sappers 22 Field Regiment Bethlehem ons Genie a fok nie
lol for the 80's montage music.
The tune is awesome where can I get it? I SADF was power when it was commanded by the boers aka whites no doubt abt tht.
Yes Bro.....its xurious identity Evropa probably find it still on youtube or bitchute
At this point in time South Africa probably was in the top three best armies in the WORLD.
FW De Klerk didnt have a spine and handed this country to Mandela and so began the downfall and fallout you see today. But thanks for that bit of info
@@LucianPrimeOneMillion "South Africa probably was in the top three best armies in the WORLD...."
Lucien, I have to disagree because that's a very broad statement and one has to consider manpower, technology and whole range of other criteria. I would agree if your statement read "South Africa had a military that punched WELL above its weight...."
@moonbeam you are very misinformed. There is a huge departure between that which is opinion and that which is fact. What is fact is that the South African military was not FULLY engaged in the Angolan war but rather offered a conventional (Tanks, artillery etc.) capability to Unita in their defence of Jamba and Southern Angola because they had none versus 5 columns each Brigade strength of FAPLA/Cuban personnel and heavy armour advancing south to their position. The reason there was an interdiction on the part of the SADF to assist Unita was because in the very likely event Unita was defeated, it would open a much wider front for the SADF to defend with no buffer zone in Southern Angola (controlled by Unita )between SWA/Namibia and Angolan Fapla/Cuban forces.
At the peak of the conflict, there were never more than 5000 SA combat personnel in support of Unita. It was NOT the whole SA army contrary to belief in uninformed circles.
The end result is that SA 61Mech. destroyed 2 columns and what survived of the 2 brigades had to be absorbed into the remaining 3 that retreated from the Lomba river basin.
Once the SA objectives had been achieved, the SADF withdrew and the Cuban General Sanchez Ochua was recalled to Havana and subsequently executed for dereliction of duty. The Soviet supreme commander was recalled to Moscow and given a dishonourable discharge.
The withdrawal of SA forces has ALWAYS been a very sticky point of argument with Soviet/Cuban/Angolan propaganda trumpeting a resounding defeat and rout of SA forces in Southern Angola. To exacerbate this, the SA government and military did not respond to this propaganda and argue the contrary. They just kept quiet and for a very good reason....!!
The combined FAPLA/Cuban Soviet backed forces took such a beating that SA were VERY afraid the Soviets (in order to regain military prestige) would up the ante with a full scale military intervention in Angola- a situation SA (with no willing allies in the world) would never have been able to cope with.
This situation was very much a double edged sword for the SA government and the military top brass that were worried about a full scale Soviet intervention and as a result there was a scramble to put together a home grown nuclear missile defence system (with the assistance of the Israelis) to counter such an eventuality See th-cam.com/video/3asnLWPBoKY/w-d-xo.html
The way Cmdt. Ferreira and 61Mech effectively countered the Soviet backed FAPLA/Cuban columns advancing south, using light armour instead of tanks is today a textbook case study at US Westpoint military academy.
South African forces lost a total of 93 men KIA. th-cam.com/video/mZpjk_QWpac/w-d-xo.html
@moonbeamyou clearly have the wrong history there my man.
@moonbeamhow did the SADF capture all those Russian high tech weaponry? By having our asses handed to us? I doubt that...
My father was in the 32 battalion
Un cover Dieter Gerhardt South African General selling info to Mosco
Proudly served in 61 Meg
What song is it though?
Its Xurious
Identity Evropa
does anyone here by chance know or served with a Craig Gill ?
Was it common for the sadf to mount calvary?
Yes
Yes cavalry has played a giant part in Boere kommandos since we came to south africa where there we horses given at about the same rate as mausers and it still stayed popular even into the Angola wars
I was in a cavalry unit,we had similar training than the normal infantry man ,the difference was that we could patrol longer distances than the footsloggers.
That’s why Janusz Waluś is a hero !
#freedomforjanuszwalus
My pa was recce in Angola Boer war
I wish it stayed this way, id would have joined the SAAF without a doubt. 😯
Unfortunately they withdrew support
From rhodesia who were also fighting communism!
Here’s another fine video: m.th-cam.com/video/JwPoUnw3JZY/w-d-xo.html
Angola was forced to be communist, because they didn't have a choice
South Africa was not at war with Angola. Initially at the behest of the CIA they went in to secure (from communist MPLA & it carried the approval of the AU) the area & was betrayed by the CIA & then withdrew. If they invaded with the intention of taking over thr joint why withdraw? Why make war with a country if you do not intend to invade it. SWAPO who started their liberation campaing by killing civilians and tribal leaders moved their bases to Angola when the SA Police investigated and s ermishes took place - so it became a millitary matter. SA was there to support Unita on Unita soil against the onslaught from PLAN. And if the Cubans did not interfere sending 1000's of troops inciting the situation Unita would probably have been able to work it out themselves. Seems quite comfodtable to forget the fact that in terms of land and tribe numbers Unita was the biggest. Anybody ever wondered why during all the time of that war the oil installations of the Americans were never attacked? How much of the Angolan budget consisted of tax income from this oil pumping? Where did they spend it?
@Zommel Lemmoz The SADF went into Angola because the Americans requested it to save their interests. When American public sentiment turned like it did for them in Vietnam we had nomore support. So we had to retreat back to South West. We had no interest in any other Country, we only want what is ours.
You one of the few who actually understands what it was all about. I always read weird patriotic comments from both sides and neither know what they ard talking about. There is no joy in war.
Sarki wat ek geleer het is hi ho hi lo either way my gat grip opp als lol hulle moer my gewoonlik af ekt hoogte vrees maar as die water slaan en ek raak gekoek dan sny ek daai fokken toue af lolhahaha
1:10
And?
Nut Master The music starts
Angola strong! 💪🇦🇴
SADF came from Angola demoralised and beaten, they never swapped their pride. Loss was a loss what a shame!
@M325 Tell us what you know about it?
😂😂😂😂you know that while there was so called peace , FAPLA moved South again, before the UN could arrive, so they had to send in the SADF in one last time,and the boys in brown gave them a proper hiding to say goodbye💪🏻🧡🤍💙
We, angolan, won the war!🇦🇴🇦🇴🇦🇴🇦🇴🇦🇴
@Peter South África is what ? I was there...that is poor country with black in mess
@Peter may be u were those that used to suport apartad.
@Peter what is in your country? Are u not sleepling?
You Angolans have an average IQ of 74.
Nope
Angolan don't give a fuc k .Angola Cuba was a good combination to help the end the apartheid and the independence of Namibia, a luta continua a Victoria e certa.
viva fidel!
no it wasn't. it was a colonial style war, the racist apartheid forcers fighting self termination and liberty. Cuba kickt the facistt forces out of Angola. BIG THANKS!
Cuba got their asses handed to them on a plate in Angola. Their top general wasn't executed by Castro for nothing.
@mirco taliercio Strange you should say that. How many victorious Army's on the Globe do you know of instead of celebrating the 'Winning' commanding General actually execute him for 'Winning'! Lol, well Castro did that to Arnoldo Ochoa. So go do some more research, you're embarassing yourself.
And, then wanting to replace that with a Communist government in Angola. Some soldiers being used and deceived by the Communists.
Cuba was a pawn of the Soviets, cuban forces entered Angola in what in fact was a civil war between different angolan political and military factions, all fighting for independence from Portugal, Cuba supported the MPLA who was ideologically communist and fought the FMLA and Unita, so the cuban forces fought to support a communist angolan goverment that was rejected by a large percent of the angolan population...So where is the "fighting for "freedom and self-determination"?? Learn from real history, No the communist and globalist propaganda!
@@juanmar4712 Surisingly there are still admirers of the apartheid regime in South Africa. Juanma seems to be one of them. How can you forget that Cubans joined Angolans to defeat the South African apartheid regime. On the anniversary of the Iraq invasion, and with the United States gearing up for new, more devastating wars of aggression, Cuba’s role in Angola should be looked upon as an example - perhaps the only one in recent history - of a foreign policy that was proudly interventionist, genuinely committed to emancipation, and in many ways successful. If we are to discuss internationalism in the twenty-first century, we could start from few better places.
As I know that war was lost by south Africa.
No we won
Esterling , where is your proof ?
South Africa won
Damn The Boer war were fighting to maintain the racist in Africa! SWAPO was fighting for genuine independence of Namibia which they gain.
Ignatius V. Mwanyekange
Are you expressing a fact or an opinion? Are you old enough to remember? I served VERY PROUDLY with the SADF in Angola during this time. Racist? I was not in uniform to defend apartheid. I was in uniform to fight communism and communist expansionism in Africa - a FAILED ideology that promoted atheism, an ideology that stifled free thinking and free expression and a system that murdered over 100 million innocent people by their OWN communist governments!!!! In your infinite know-it-all wisdom is Apartheid a more evil system?
Partially true.
You only got it because the outside world stopped the boers you didn't win the war
What are you White folks drinking and smoking.
Fighting for an independent Namibia, while being used and deceived by the Communists.
This was never about communism. People need to stop pretending that
Lol yes it absolutely was.
Read your history kid the Cubans wanted to install a communist government in Angola so SA intervened
Born a generation to late to fight these pos