He is an idiot who fell in love and now wants the money back because the new girl wants it.That BS of I wasn't in my right mind.This guys going to ruin his family over a new woman
My Father did that to us. We were promised the house when he died. Of course, we never saw it and our stepmother got everything. . Kids keep the money.
Honestly it makes no sense to me and odd. It isn't "protecting them". They can take care of themselves and most normal people will support their adult kids in many ways however they feel the need. I would never deed over nor write a will that deeds a marital primary residence to children before BOTH spouses/parents have passed. There is no indication that the father doesn't want to pass on an inheritance, he just thinks it is a bad idea at a young age and while he still needs/wants use of the money/equity in his primary residence during his lifetime.
Kids “burdened with the weight” of inheritance from their dead mom? Who’s to say he’s not going to move on w this new woman and figures that the kids are grown & flown & on their own.
He actually said he wanted the equity to buy the new house with his soon to be new wife. I'm wondering if the new to be wife has been giving her soon to be new husband her two cents on the matter.@@chipdouglas9349
He never said he won’t ever give them the money. He explained they are to young to manage that kind of money now, that’s it. Also you don’t know if the guys are even good a managing money at all.
@@rafaelcardenas515 It's just an excuse by him to get the $$$ back for his and his new wife's new home...didn't he said his new wife wanted them to take that $$$ and put it into a home equity project for them? Yes, he did. That 1st wife was a smart cookie. She knew the dad would screw the kids out of their inheritance once he met someone new. And the kids don't trust dad either in getting 1/2 of the proceeds when he dies. What is he complaining about?. Even giving the kids $200K each (25% of the house proceeds from the potential sale), he's STILL getting $400K himself for him and his new wife. Getting $200K can change a young person's life completely...in a good way. That's why the kids want the $$$ now and don't trust dad with the new wife.
It might make sense if we weren't talking about the marital primary residence. I would never give any ownership to my children before both spouses pass. You handle that with a will
I have seen at least twice that men remarrying after a divorce or death of their first wife and the current wife getting everything after the man dies. All of the money and items went to the current wife and HER children. So sad for my friends! And this was in two small towns less than a population of 800. One of the instances (talking about the third marriage)was the current wife’s second time as she did it to her second husband’s family. Special place in hell for these kind of people. The caller has unintentionally hinted at some red flags with this new relationship. His children are so correct in holding their ground!
If he had he would talk to his kids and put the money in a trust that pays it out for a first time home purchase or education or something instead of just trying to get out of it entirely. Gross.
The fact that he's getting married barely a year later, and moving out of state while trying to bilk his young kids out of $400K tells you all you need to know about him.
It is soon, but doesn’t mean he’s a cheater. Some people need a support system and can’t be alone for long. Other people need time alone to process. Some people are ready to marry someone after a few months, some people take a long time. I don’t see a cheater necessarily. But I don’t like him wanting to go back on his late wife’s dying wish that he already agreed to. That being said, he shouldn’t give away 1/4 of his home before he passes away. Technically they should be getting the legacy when both parents have passed away. But that was his screw up, and he has to live with it.
The guy sounds so unattached when he was talking about his dead wife, like a care salesman listing off the features of a car he wants to sell you. I did not hear a shred of emotion in his voice. It's like he going down a checklist and saying all the "correct" things to get Dave on his side. He honestly sounds like a bit of psychopath who can talk like a regular human, but can't fake the emotions that a regular human would feel. I agree that he was probably seeing this woman while his wife was dying. She knew and instead of confronting him, she got him to agree to this arrangement to make sure the kids would get something before the new girl bleeds him dry.
I think the deceased wife knew something was up with the husband, hence she wanted this quit claim deed in place to protect the kids. Smart. Bless this woman
@@FreeSpirit47 It's too late plus it's even a worse idea to have it go with the dad and the new women in his life who didn't contribute to this family to this point! Simply teach your kids the money worth. Have them use it to go to college and invest or get a condo! With that kind of money they are off to a great start in life when they get some help of how to put it in use but that only works when the dad tried to actually teach them for their sake. It's bad enough to lose your mother so young. It's a huge betrayal when the dad wants to ask for that money back
@@dacianbonta2840 so that is obviously what mom didn’t want her hard earned life spent on foolishness possibly to her children’s demise have you no wisdom?
The mother gave her portion to her kids so he has no say in the matter. I would give them the option of setting up a trust in their name to slowly dole the money out or as a down payment on a home or giving it all to them at once to blow. Let them understand that if they blow it to not come to you for money ever again. Hopefully the kids are smart enough to not give this guy control of their money.
Smart woman ❤. I hope the kids don't give in, because it's clear their dad has been cheating on their wonderful, kind mother while she was fighting cancer.
@@home4life505 Yup, she knew she could manipulate him in a time of stress and used it as leverage to look out for her kids. Hopefully the kids told him to kick rocks.
His new wife wants that money. Suddenly he is worried about the "lesson" which is his excuse to get his kids to give the money back. His wife wanted this and he agreed. Deal is done.
Nobody mentioned that the mom owned 50% of the house! Usually it would pass to the husband and she decided to give her half to the kids instead of him. It was hers to give away. He should honor her wishes. So sad he can’t buy another expensive home, but that half of the house wasn’t ever his anyway.
The reality of this entire situation is that he's getting remarried and has become greedy! He wants all the money because, fact is, that's impressive! He imagines how much more appealing he would be to his new finance, if only, if only he had all the money to himself! This one's far too obvious! Thank God his grown kids are protected in this situation and if they make mistakes and unwise decisions with it, so be it, it's their mistakes to make and like everyone else, may they learn from them!°
These "kids" are adults. The youngest is 18. This man dated and married all within 18 months, he knew exactly what he's doing. Going to give the new woman all the mothers money. Mom well done.
This guy says oh I want to use the equity in this home to buy a new home. This guy is a loser. He could be giving an 18 and 21 year-old their college completely paid for or if they already have scholarships that is one healthy down payment on a starter home for them, which that is what he should tell them you and your brother are getting 200,000 each money. I will hold onto it for you. They’ll be used for school and what you don’t use for school that will be your down payment for a home then he just set his kids up for successwith a home that’s almost paid off
Kids lose their mom at a young age and then the dad decides to move in with his side chick and give everything to her. Boy this guy is a real piece of work. His deceased wife was smart and knew his ways
@@LeesaLilHop Yup, adults with 25% each because their mother love them and took care of them, something that their father is not interested in doing. Let his new wife put up the remaining 50% for the house.
Or get a court to do it, he kept saying " I wasn't in my right mind" . His lawyer probably told him he can't get out of it and he was hoping Dave would tell him different.
What mom doesn't know is that the money will be gone in a heartbeat. She made a terrible decision. She should've said they get the money when they are 30 AND the kids NEVER should've been told about it because they will then live their life knowing they will get the money. Dumb!
@@RichLclips No, he and her built equity in that house together, and mama, the really smart cookie made sure it went to her kids instead of the new wife, even if they blow it who would you rather blow your money, your kids or hubby's new wife?
That was a smart Mama. She covered her babies. Principle AND character IS THE POINT. Honoring his dead wife’s wishes as he agreed to IS THE POINT. She is the one to help him build that legacy. Not gambling with his kids money to buy a house for another woman that may not be as invested in a good legacy is A MAJOR POINT! Dropped the ball on this one Dave.
Yup! Agree 💯 Dave should have read the comments to know what was really going on with this guy. But the one good piece of advice he gave, was to get a prenup 👍🏽
He’s a grown man who cared for a dying wife and is about to lose half the value of his home to the tune of almost half a million dollars. Why are the grown children entitled to that? She pulled a bit of a swindle move at the end as opposed to actually setting money aside throughout life to leave them, which if that was so important she would’ve. It seems like she made an irrational decision near death. this guy is at a nearly half a million loss and now has to pick up the pieces and move forward and y’all are acting like he’s some evil a-hole.
@@johnathanlatman2507it wasn't his half. They both owned half the house. The mother wants her half left to her kids & not to him & his new wife. What's confusing about that for you?
She didn't make sn irrational decision. She knew it was very likely the husband would remarry bc he obviously has a 20 & 18 year old & many widowers remarry too soon. . The mistake she made was not putting the money in a trust till the kids were older. She knew she was dying & her kids were 17 & 19-ish when she died.@johnathanlatman2507
His wife died from cancer a year and a half ago and he's already marrying someone else and backtracking on a promise he made to her for her children?? What a gem.
💯 i thought maybe i heard the call wrong n she might have passed away some time ago. A yr n half n ur already remarrying!?!?!?!?! WOW!!!! So much for all the "nice" things he said about her.
You guys don't know his story. No one can say how love goes for another couple. Stats say happily married men remarry after being widowed much faster than happily married women. Perhaps they know how to trust and love deeply and seek to have needs met with another good woman -- that's no sin. Perhaps men and women are different. Perhaps all individuals are different. His new wife may have some input, but it wasn't evident in any way by his call. And anyone with kids knows money can throw them for a loop. Maybe hold your judgement.
Though not a Mercedes, just they security of a home. New wife gets it, and the father in his "new life." Children of suffering woman, now in earliest adulthood, get to feel shame and awkwardness if even visiting. What an appropriate addition to their recent loss. But here is another question, how frequently does such as this play out? And would the children actually have been better off in 14th century, plague-ridden Europe. Destitute yes, but no expectations and no betrayal.
Not a Mercedes. A new house that they want to “carry the equity into”. He flat out stated it and the fact that he was allowed to slide and not get called out is DISGUSTING
@@Burlykim13 Absolutely! He wanted to take the money his wife left for her kids and buy a bigger house for his new wife. He may have been worried about the kids squandering it, but he wasn't intending to teach good stewardship and finance...he wanted a bigger house!
He said the quiet part out loud-we want to put that equity into our next house… . This isn’t about him being concerned about his kids getting a bunch of money. This is about him and his new honey not getting it.
EXACTLY! I'm surprised by how many people missed that part. Geez...he STILL would be getting about $400,000, even giving the kids their 25% share. How much $$$ does this guy need for his new house? You can buy a substantial house (the WHOLE house) for $400,000 where I live.
Both things can be true and both are totally normal. I would never expect my spouse to give up any ownership interest in our primary residence prior to both of our passing. I don't know anyone who transferrs any % of ownership in a primary residence before both spouses have passed. You write a will to account for it. its totally normal for a widow(er) to keep full ownerhsip and financial gain of a primary residence until both have passed.
@@chipdouglas9349In my mind, it’s disingenuous for him to call the show and act like he’s worried about how the kids will spend the money rather than just saying he now wants the money for his new life. People also have different kinds of arrangements they agree to when someone is alive and then change their minds when the person dies. That’s understandable. But best not to call the show and try to take everyone for a ride.
@@MzMiata How is it disingenuous? Both concerns are valid concerns and can exist simultaneously. He seems to be flexible on a solution. Most married people expect to have full ownership and its benefits of their primary residence until both spouses pass before passing onto their children. Most children have the same expectation in the average married family.
I understand what you are saying-that might be the normal course of things. But that is not what happened in this case, according to the call. He said that he and his dying wife agreed to give the children part of the equity in the home. Now he has changed his mind and wants all the money. That’s his business-unless he calls a nationwide/worldwide advice show and tries to convince the hosts and the listeners that he is simply watching out for the good of the kids by keeping the money. That’s disingenuous. And you can let him know the next time you see him. 😉
In the beginning it sounded like he wanted to help the kids protect the money. Then he said “We want to carry this equity into our next house”. That means he just wants the money for himself. What a creep.
Imagine trying to screw your own kids out of money… awful. He has 400k to take into new house be freaking grateful. Some widowers don’t get that. If he wanted to help the kids protect the money, take them to a financial planner, talk about their long term goals and how this money can be put to good use. Don’t try to steal it 😂
I don't really understand why Dave didn't confront him. I mean sure, he doesn't know for sure if he wants good for his children or just wants their money, but when this was mentioned, he could at least say that hey, that money is your children's, you can't move out of state and use it for another house. If you just want to save them from early big money, convice them to put it in some low risk investment until they are 25 or sg. Now I only see a widowed man remarried in 1,5 years, wanting his dead wife's piece of equity in their home taken back from his children to use it to buy his new house with his new wife in the sake of looking after his children. And I see two adults with some equity from their dead mother that their dad wants to take away saying they are not responsible. Also, if the children called with the same story, I think Dave would roast the dad.
Yea, $200k would just ruin these young adults life. God forbid they purchase their own home, pay off their school tuition, make some investments, get some breathing room. That would just be awful.
@@GDuncan8002 , their dad could invest for them to take Ramsey's Financial Peace University course to support and empower them in making wise decisions.
If I was him, and I was truly worried about their lack of maturity in managing the money, I wouldn’t sell the house right now. Are they even all on board with selling? Does he have the power to make that decision on his own? The girl is still in high school, is she supposed to just figure out her living situation right after graduation, because dad is remarrying and moving away? That’s how you put her in a tight spot, and that’s how she ends up mismanaging 200k. Also, for the 21yo young man in Orlando, $200k won’t get him much in terms of a property there, either. So he needs a caring father to support him on how to invest that. Who knows if he is there just for schooling, and planning to return home upon graduation, so then he can make sound decisions in terms of work and living situation. Losing your mother to cancer at those ages is already hard enough. Losing your father too, over money and greed… That’s way too much to handle.
@@GDuncan8002there are accounts they can put it into where they can only take out a certain amount each year (at least in the uk). Also with the absolute insanity that is US school fees, I’m guessing if they are heading to college, that’s what they’ll use the money for. But at the end of the day, it was their mom’s wish to give them the money- they are 18. It’s not like every person who is older is responsible with money either- my mom is 65 and has blown through £140,000 in a few years.
Protect your children from the stepmother. Stepparents are notorious for siphoning children's inheritance. Don't steal from your children. This is THEIR inheritance. Protect your children from your second wife. Why do you need a second wife, anyway? Remarrying so soon is so hurtful to children. And to add insult to injury, you're trying to steal their inheritance. This will destroy your relationship with them. They will have lost both parents. That's awful. If you're really worried they will be irresponsible with the money, advise them on how to invest the money. But don't steal their money.
You both gave this man a lot of grace. His wife essentially left the kids her half of the house. The money is theirs, not the caller's. Saying "give me the monry now and I'll give you more in 40+ years" is a terrible "compromise".
@@stevemyopinion423 Yes, it was. Half of the house belongs to the spouse. Had the mom not done what she did, half of her share will go to the new wife by law and the kids will get nothing. Just ask any divorce lawyer.
@@stevemyopinion423 That was why the wife signed a quit claim to give her share to their kids. So in this case, it was hers by law whether she contributed to its purchase or not. It depends on the scenario here and the husband even admitted that his lawyer said so as well.
"I don't understand why my kids don't want to let me take THEIR money so ME and MY NEW WIFE can have a better life." I think the wife had a feeling the kids needed to be protected after she left... wish she made a trust instead for the money but her instincts seem right.
Yeah agreed! I am totally questioning this guys ethics and morality.. it sounded like he and his new wife wanted the additional equity for their new house / life, and the.. oh I’m concerned about what the money will do to my young kids is just an excuse.
Mom was the smartest. She took HER 50% and gave it to HER children- 25% and 25%. Very fair. I wouldn’t want any new wife or her new children coming to take from what I worked so hard for from my 2 children either. Why isn’t dad satisfied with his 50%?? The other 50% belong to his adult kids- not his new wife. Disgusting.
Well usually when you’re the breadwinner and pay for the entirety of everything and this home is built on your blood sweat and tears, being “happy with his 50%” to the tune of a nearly half a million dollar loss isn’t as easy as you make it sound.
@@johnathanlatman2507he never said that he paid for the whole thing, just that he was the nerd in the house and finances "weren't his wife's strong suit". For all you know, they had a 50/50 marriage and there was no "breadwinner"
I disagree with Dave... I hear this guy heart is in the wrong place. He wants it back for him and his new wife. He just ruined his relationship with his kids.
I would never give any of my children any ownership of my primary residence and wouldbn't expect my spouse to agree to that prior to both married spouses passing. That is the norm. He is completely resonable for being concenred that it is too young to pass on $200 and he obvioulsy is open to some alterntive arrangement. I would never expect my spouse to give up any ownership interest in our primary residence prior to both of our passing. I don't know anyone who transferrs any % of ownership in a primary residence before both spouses have passed. You write a will to account for it. its totally normal for a widow(er) to keep full ownerhsip and financial gain of a primary residence until both have passed.
@@chipdouglas9349 you're a selfish pos then. You know the dude want to use the money for his new house. Def not saving it for his kids. Hope the kids got the money
@@TonyStark-wr7ob How am I selish? I am just commenting on the case. One of his wants is to sell the house and use some or all of the proceeds to buy another house. That is a fairly normal transaction after one spouse dies and the other is still living. That is how most estates are structured. Regardless fo which one of us passes first our primary residence dosn't go to our children intil both of us pass. Neiher one of us considers the other selfish. We consider it common sense. When he dies I would assume he intends to leave his house and any assets to his kids. He clearly seems concerned about their long-term financial success. and is concerned that they are getting too much money all at once. He was tranparent with all of his concerns and his wife and kids perspectives and interests and was seeking moral guidance from an objective person he trusts on how to proceed before making any decisions.
Yes but his kids have nothing to do financially with that house. Did they help pay the mortgage or pay for anything associated with the house? Most likely not. The guy is kind of dumb for agreeing to that, but the kids sound more money hungry than he does. I do agree with Dave that he gets a prenuptial with his new wife so his kids inherit what essentially his deceased wife wanted when he passes
@keny46 kids didn't make the decision, mom did. She can give her money to whomever she wants. She probably suspected he was cheating before her death. We are all speculating but dad screwed up and signed the paper
@@andrewatkinson3700I'm guessing their mom, his wife, knew him well that he would have cheated their kids at the end anyway (assuming here if he dies first than his new wife), because look at him now showing his true colors talking to lawyer how to get hands on their inheritance not once saying "yes, good idea making a will" nor asking Dave how can I assist my kids in managing their money to the best advantage for their future. And another red flag, not once he said having a great relationship with his kids was his priority.Btw, he is getting married to a great gal and they are having a long distant relationship. OMG.
@@keny46he probably had no choice half clearly belonged to his deceased wife and she gave it to her kids. I’m sure there was nothing he could do to stop that! So he waits till she dead and tries to swindle the kids! Sad
I keep hearing they are too young to have that amount of money, but to me that’s a good amount to be able to attend college and get a masters without having to work and worry about housing and transportation. What a great set up to start your adult career/life without the added stress! I would be so thankful to mom!
I listened to this twice. Once the guy comes totally clean about his kids wanting the money, Dave pulled his card. The caller was definitely being manipulative in the beginning talking about his wife being a Christian, lol.
I hope the kids listened to this, read the comments and DID NOT sign their rights to the money over to their father! Dave is usually spot on with his advice but he blew it on this one.
The only thing that would have made this “better” was if she created a trust for them to access when they turned a certain age (like 25) - it would still reach the same goal, but they wouldn’t have to deal with an influx of that much cash at such a young age and it would put them in a waaaaay better tax situation. But that’s still presuming they aren’t mature enough to handle that kind of money at their current ages, which might not be the case at all. Some 18 year olds are responsible af, and it’s totally possible mom taught them how to manage money well.
@@lexi219How I see it is that the mother clearly knows her kids would be responsible with that money, and wouldn’t have given them that much money if she didn’t trust them to be wise with it.
His wife died a year and a half ago and he’s already getting remarried? Mama knew exactly what she was doing. The $400k he will be getting from the sale of his house will be more than enough to buy a house with his new wife. He needs to have a will to make sure that $400k plus appreciation and his other assets that he has going into the marriage is left to his children. Any new wealth he accumulates from the day he gets married should go half to his new wife and 25% to each of his children.
Mama knew that whoever he loves in the future he will love more than his kids. She’s now their Angel looking upon them having saved her portion of the land for them. What a heart of Gold!
100% I don’t understand why they should even trust him to include it in his will. Besides unless the father starts a new family he should give them the money when he dies anyway
Sounds like they want to move, but yeah. Nothing good can come from fighting this, especially with a new wife and still greiving kids. Frankly, he should realize it's a lost cause without even calling in.
The fact he talked to his lawyer about getting out of it, just shows the kids EXACTLY where his priority is... and it's not them. Dead wife sensed it and guaranteed his selfish ways wouldn't make the children suffer.
@@colleenduffy1139 frankly, the fact he even thought about going back on his promise and tried to convince the kids he was in the right... is the most disgusting immoral thing I've heard in a very long time.
I don't think he is a sleaze, he is still grieving, wants to fill the hole in his life, kids are still young, never should have agreed to hand over that kind of $$ to adolescents and he met a demanding woman who is bad news, but he is still grieving...he probably isn't fifty yet. Grief takes a huge toll.
Wife been gone just 18 months and gettin married. Not good. I’ve had long term gf’s I wasn’t over after 18 months. The mother of this dudes kids?? Something fishy
Sounds like the Mom had great instincts and protected her kids from a dad that goes back on his word. I'd genuinely not trust a dad that says I'll pay you later after hearing I'm taking back what I promised you.
Dave, in this rare instance you got this one 100% wrong. - You are NOT treating the Adult offspring as Adults - You are not supporting the Mother's active. valid and legal wish for her children - You are enabling this "man" to rationalize taking back from his children what their mother gave them. Shame on you.
She literally just passed away…and he’s already met someone new, decided to marry her, and wants to destroy what remains of his late wife’s final wish on this earth…😔
@@genxx2724 I hope so too. It's enough to deal with going through puberty and growing up as is, now losing a mother and having to deal with a scumbag of a father, plus selling their house, way too much.
That mama was really thinking about her children. That's what a loving mother does. She knew full well that if he remarried, either all the money would get blown before her children ever get any inheritance. Or he might die first and a practical stranger gets everything she worked for her entire life, and her kids get nothing. She did the right thing, for sure. So sad she's gone, but her children can have some comfort knowing they were her first priority.
I bet if daddy died mommy would have kept all the money and the kids would have seen nothing until mommy passed. Then they would likely find out that she reverse mortgaged the home and that there is little to nothing left.
@@apersonontheinternet8006 she likeley wouldnt marry 18months after. the sleeze ball had a side chick while his wife was dying, the bastard. Great mother. Her kids will get that money
Yah they’re so living in their childhood home and yikes. They’re young adults on their own and he wants to basically abandon them right after their mom died for a long distance with who knows who? Always have a will and trust to protect the interests of your kids.
My parents both passed away when I was little, and I received the life insurance money they left me when I turned 18 (about $150k). I still have that money in my investment account and it has more than doubled now after 10+ years. Not all 18 year olds are going to spend away a big chunk of money if they're responsible especially if it's their mother's last gift to them. With a little guidance, they may even learn to build wealth at an early age.
Sorry for you loss, Yes, windfalls are generally not good for any human, regardless of age, but I agree with you that the gravity of the gift from your mother (who clearly loved them dearly) would definitely tend to give pause to squandering the money. I hope the "Dad" didn't find a loophole, and they are being responsible as you were.
So sorry for your loss! 1) when I was 18 I opened a Roth IRA and invested $3,000 basically everything from working my first job as a hostess at an Old Chicago. That retirement account helps us buy our first home and is trucking along higher than ever before! 2) when my sister in law passed away we set aside SSDI and probate inheritance for our nephew about $30k and he received that when he aged out of guardianship at 19. I don’t know if he’s been responsible with it or not but it’s not our choice. We just wanted him to have something, a little nest egg, a small blessing from his mom passing to make a new life for himself. He can learn good and bad from it on his own.
The wife was so smart.. she knew he would remarry immediately and all the work she put into the house would be gone and going to someone who doesn’t deserve it… she gave her half of the house to her kids. Kudos to the mom 👏 dad and new wifey can suck it. I hope the kids will know to buy their own house with that money!
He said it about 6 times - that if he took the money back the kids wouldn't get 25%, they would get 50%. He tried in so many words to make it clear that if this guy flipped that money into equity in a new house that they would get ALL of it when he died and PRENUP and the guy is completely nonreactive to that, eg he's not going to do it. He wants the money for a new house, even says as much, and that new house would go to the new wife. This guy's deceased wife knew what was up and made sure her kids got her half up front. She's smart. @@voidfroze
This caller is the definition of greed. Give your kids the money and teach them how to invest it so they have their futures in order. What a piece of work.
Exactly of kids out that in a good index fund or the Ramsey mutual fund formula, they won't have to worry about retirement. Or at least have one heck of a head start
Your wife just died and you ready to move onto next marriage? I am a divorced man and for my kids well being, I haven’t even date anyone for almost 3 years now. Come on man! Take care of your kids!
Thank god for those kids mother 🧡 she wanted to make sure her children would be okay . This is about starting again with a new woman and the max amount of cash possible for whatever lifestyle he provided. Those kids are the last thing he’s thinking about.
If he was actually worried about them having the money early, he would try to get them to put the money in the trust for themselves instead of giving it to him so he can move on with a new woman. Good job mom looking out for your kids.
I had almost the same thought as you, except I was thinking the kids take the money and max out their Roth IRAs, 401k, open a 529 education plan, etc. Any funds remaining could be used to open a regular stock mutual fund as a placeholder on a future home down payment. Lastly spend a couple thousand to honor their mother, like a trip to the mother's home country or exotic place she longed to visit but never could.
He talked about his new brand new relationship before he talked about his kids 😒😒 you can hear in his voice that he’s more upset about not having access to the money than he is worried for his children.
Correct. Have the kids put it in a trust where he is the co-trustee, and his relationship as co-trustee expires when they turn 30. He helps manage the money, make good financial decisions with it, and at 30 years old, his role expires and they either learned the lesson or they didn’t
I'm 95% sure mom talked to those kids and told them about her plan. She more then likely told them there dad has a mistress and I'm curtained she told them how to manage that money when dad wasn't around. Good job mom thanks for looking out for your kids.
@@ekl2947 You try to tell an 18 year old not to buy a $70k car just because you have the money in the bank right now. Try and tell a 21 year old not to waste their money traveling and put it into an investment portfolio so that they can reap the benefits in another 15 years. Isn't it weird how any time the man dies first everyone still has to wait for mom to die to get their portion of those assets because "she needs the money, how is she supposed to live" yet when mom dies and leaves the kids money she is "just looking out for the kids"? Women - "Whats yours is ours and what is mine is mine".
My Dad promised my Mom that my brother and I would get his estate. He remarried within the year after she passed. Long story short....she got everything., then died and left it to her kids. I always told my folks that I wasn't going to rely on them as my retirement fund, and I'm glad I didn't. If you want your kids to have something then put it in your will...don't count on your spouse to do it.
Sorry to hear that happened to you. Like you said he should have set up a will or a trust to make sure you and your brother got your fair share if his estate.
What a terrible call. Dave suggesting that the kids sign over their rights to half the current house in exchange for 100% of dad's new house upon his death (possibly decades from now) is just bizarre. They own half the house. If they wanted to they could demand the equity right now, forcing a sale if dad can't afford to buy them out. What kind of parent would try to steal money from their own kids who've just lost mom or dad?
And they're still so young.. Daughter 18, son 21.. I feel for them, especially the daughter, doesn't sound like dad was much of a support after their mom passed.
He's changing his mind before her body is cold in the ground. She was smart, she knew him well, better the children gets the money that some random stepmother and her kids
Ok after reading these comments I'm so relieved I wasn't the only one who got D-Bag vibes from this guy!! I couldn't believe how compassionate and understanding Dave was with him!! If his kids ever read this - I am so sorry about your mom's passing, she was an incredible woman and parent to put her children first. Unfortunately your father is not that type of parent and is trying to put his new woman before his children. You do NOT owe your father anything! Take your mother's blessing, move away, be wise with the money, and keep that toxic man at a very long arm's length. Praying this man gets right with God and learns what's important before it's too late.
This whole call is suspect. I don’t believe this guy‘s intent is to protect his children at all. How you move on when you move on is your business but you made a promise to your late wife and to your kids honor it.
This man has NO integrity at all. I’m surprised Dave didn’t immediately see straight through him. It’s utter nonsense that he thinks it’s too much money for his kids to handle - he simply wants the money to set up his cost life with this new woman. The poor deceased Mum was onto him. Thank God she left her half of the house to get kids before she died.
@@LOUBAT1 The Ramsey network usually gives widows the benefit of the doubt. He has no out legally its a morals ethics question. For all we know they guy might be right his kids cant handle it but they are adults, they get to make their own mistakes.
He’s leaving his 18 year old daughter in Ohio to move to Atlanta with a new wife 18 months after her mother’s death? That alone is a dick move. Then to ask for her to sign away a nest egg her wise mother protected for her so she can get by on her own? Those poor kids… that mom was so smart to get him to sign that for them! Good job looking out for your kids Mama!
His wife made sure the kids didn’t get disinherited when he got married again and his priorities changed, which is exactly what’s happening. They should be bound and determined to get the money. They’re too young - well, it’s not perfect. If they act unwisely with the money, it’s still better than getting nothing when he dies.They can each get into a house.
This man is a bad guy. He’s got a new piece and he’s trying to live a better life now that the first wife is dead. The house is worth sooo much and if he remarrys (like he wants) he doesn’t need to sell it. That’s ridiculous.
He’s obliterating the life he and his wife built. The kids’ family, home, and foundation will be gone. It’s heartbreaking. He doesn’t care about his wife, their children, and holding the family and the home together. He just wants to go on to a new life for himself in greener pastures.
Exactly.. he said he wants to use their portion as a down payment on a house in Atlanta. I think Dave may have missed that comment since he didn't challenge him on his motives
@@georgewagner7787 he doesn’t, he is totally wanting to keep the money for his new life. He said as much when he talked about wanting the equity for a new house,
Exactly why is he in such a rush to sell? I agree 18 and 21 is very young to manage 200k especially while managing the emotional strain of losing a parent and then potentially your family home cause your dad got a “new piece”. If he’s truly concerned about protecting his kids inheritance then don’t sell at this time.
Dude had better be careful. Those kids can also fight back and make it impossible to sell the house. If they are on the title they can also move in/stay there as long as they want.
yeah idk why dave is thinking the kids will get 100% of everything even though the dude is getting remarried and she will likely get a large portion, or if he doesnt get a proper prenup she could divorce and take half. the kids mother was wise to get half of her lifes work transferred to the kids.
@@mkwyche I think Dave did call him out, subtly, when he told him to get a prenup. Notice how the guy didn't exactly agree to that idea. As soon as he said he was getting remarried, it was obvious to Dave and everyone else what was really going on here.
I’M questioning the motive behind him wanting to do this. $800k and 50% goes to the children right after the sell of the home. Why do you have to sell the home now if you’re concerned about them not handling the money well? Does it have anything to do with you getting married and moving away with your new wife, a year and a half after your wife(their mom) died from cancer? OF COURSE IT DOES. You don’t even want to do what Dave suggested because you know you have ill intentions towards this entire situation. Give them their portion and call it a day. Realistically it was their mom, deeding them her portion of y’all’s current net worth.
I couldn’t imagine re-marrying a year and a half after my wife dies of cancer. Not only that, but abandoning my kids at 18 and 21 years old, who already lost their mother and moving thousands of miles away to leave them completely abandoned. He’s already shown that he by no means has his kids best interest in mind and is in no way doing it for them. If he wanted to do ANYTHING for them, it would have been to help them grieve and stand by them to ensure they receive the proper guidance they need in life. Not move away with a new wife and cut them out of the money his wife ensured they would receive. She 100% knew he would run off with someone, abandon the kids and take everything the second she was gone.
Unfortunately, the kids not giving the money back will only make the dad feel resentful and probably wouldn’t want to have much to do with them anyway. Sad all the way around this one.
Well I’m sure the new incoming wife would love to get 1/2 of their 800k house if things end up not working out. The caller sounds really lost and has forgotten his priorities (his kids). He doesn’t want to be alone and is going to move across the country and wants all 800k for life with the new wife, at a minimum a pre-nup is in order. How much you want to bet the wife to be may not be so eager about a marriage if he’s not putting all his money into it no questions asked. What is she bringing to the table? Why can’t she put some money into a new house? Sounds like she is pressuring him to get all the money for them. The 1st wife was one smart cookie! If he was really worried about what he said then why not set up trusts for the kids with the money they would for instance pay out when they were 25 or something. He’s not mentioning them getting the money at all just keep it all and disregard the mom/wife’s wishes, she really was a warrior, fighting for her kids!
😂😂 this is sooooo new wife speaking… I can almost hear her voice, ever so sweetly, protecting his children from the ‘burden’ of having this money… also, long distance relationship ? 🤦♀️
The kid's mother is rolling in her grave watching their father lining up to give it all away to another woman with her kid getting nothing. I'm glad she was wise enough on her deathbed to protect her kids before her passing.
What a piece of work. Would've been much better to call and ask "My adult children are getting this money as their mother's dying wish. How do I guide them to use it well so it's a blessing and not a curse?"
Yes when my sister in law died we saved all our nephew’s social security disability and probate so about $25-30k for him and didn’t spend it for his expenses under guardianship. It was odd giving that to a 19 year old and we did our best to show him how to be responsible with money. But my philosophy is he’ll either be wise, or dumb, or a combo and learn important lessons from that experience. It’s not up to us anymore - let baby bird fly or fall on their own at that point!
If I’m one of the kids, I’d never sign. There are serious red flags with the new long distance wifey-to-be. She certainly has influence power over their father, and she’s intruding on their family legacy. Weather she realizes that or not.
@@colleenduffy1139 lets be real here, sure there is a possibility that the new wife has nothing to do with it, but the odds are way higher that the new wife would prefer to have an extra 400k to begin their new life with and she is encouraging him to try and get it back. this is a tale as old as time, a guy gets divorced or remarried after a death and the new wife bleeds him dry and the kids get nothing. the pervious wife knew there was a chance of this and she was wise to get him to transfer her half of their networth over to the kids.
@@colleenduffy1139 Agreed and people are questioning why he thinks they are too young. ie he said straight up that HE WANTED THAT MONEY TO PUT INTO A NEW HOUSE WITH HIS WIFE. A women he is marrying only 1 1/2 after buying his wide AND dating via aa long distance relationship. So ya - no one is blaming the new wife but people are seeing red flags.
His new wife made sure he quickly sells the house because anything they buy with that money while married will be hers also, and not the kids'. Definitely not stupid like this guy.
Did this guy really just call in asking if he was morally right to take his dead wife's portion of the house, that he promised to give to his children, and instead spend it on a new house for his new wife?? Sounds to me like the mom knew what she was doing...Putting the money into a new house for him and his new wife is NOT protecting them. That's ensuring it goes to her when he dies.
A year and a half after your admittedly great wife died of a horrible disease is madness as well he is a bad person looking for encouragement to do wrong and Gordon actually supported him
If he was truly concerned about his kids blowing through the money he would sit them down with a reputable financial advisor and talk through the options of what to do with a large lump sum of money at a young age.
Why isnt Dave suggesting putting kids portion in a trust that manages the kids money - they get it but it’s paid out in increments from the trust. I think the mom knew there was issues with the husband. He also doesn’t mention other assets. Did she have life insurance? A previous inheritence? I’ve seen many adult children jilted financially in similar circumstances. And also note the kids do not currently live near their Dad . They are 18 And 21. That tells something about the relationship here.
He was about to spill the beans by saying he wanted to take the equity of that house to buy himself another house before Dave interrupted him 🤭 he knows he is immoral that’s why he wants validation from Dave. As a man and father I would never do that to my own kids. 💩 I know exactly the kind of parent he was. I really do hope the kids can get their mothers equity and invested well. And I hope he has the life he deserves.
It’s pretty clear that he’s heading towards a distant relationship (emotional and literal - especially since he’s moving so far away) with his children as he moves forward with his 50% equity to fund the purchase of a house with his new wife. There might not be any inheritance coming towards his children upon his death, as his wife will inherit it all if she survives him and he’s not specifically named his children in a will.
Bless his heart. I knew a guy that milked tons of sympathy cause his beloved long term wife died, 6 month later he was ready to remarry and the new gal had the same name of the old one! A year waiting might have kept his kids iin his life, nope.
He's remarrying so soon to me & doesn't seem at all sad at the loss of his wife....he's moved on. That must really hurt the kids..they're still young. It doesn't sound like he's been concentrating on his hurting children, but chasing a new woman & wants all of the money for wife #2❤❤❤
His wife wanted to do this for their children. She wanted to ensure her children received her half of the estate. It's a done deal. I hope the kids honor their mother's memory and follow the Ramsey plan.
>Sorry kids, you don't get any of your mother's inheritance and I'm spending it on my new wife that I married a year and a half after your mother's passing. Standup guy right there.
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She’s a momma bear even from the grave ❤️
He is an idiot who fell in love and now wants the money back because the new girl wants it.That BS of I wasn't in my right mind.This guys going to ruin his family over a new woman
@@DirkWinchesterfell in lust
My Father did that to us. We were promised the house when he died. Of course, we never saw it and our stepmother got everything. . Kids keep the money.
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@@Sinderella1987your user name could be these kids' !! 😮
@@Sinderella1987oh no 😢😢😢
this happens so often
The kids from the first marriage always get disinherited, happened to my grandma too.
Its obvious he wants the full $800,000 and his kids to have NOTHING. Yeah what a effing gem of a father 🙄
In Louisiana all children get equal value from the sale of the home.
Not if it’s willed to from one spouse to the other!
I have a feeling he's being influenced by the new honey. "Long distance relationship" is already a red flag 🤦
Mom was smart enough to protect her children.
Yes, she was.
Honestly it makes no sense to me and odd. It isn't "protecting them". They can take care of themselves and most normal people will support their adult kids in many ways however they feel the need. I would never deed over nor write a will that deeds a marital primary residence to children before BOTH spouses/parents have passed. There is no indication that the father doesn't want to pass on an inheritance, he just thinks it is a bad idea at a young age and while he still needs/wants use of the money/equity in his primary residence during his lifetime.
Should have put it in a trust not just right in their name but I agree
Kids “burdened with the weight” of inheritance from their dead mom? Who’s to say he’s not going to move on w this new woman and figures that the kids are grown & flown & on their own.
He actually said he wanted the equity to buy the new house with his soon to be new wife. I'm wondering if the new to be wife has been giving her soon to be new husband her two cents on the matter.@@chipdouglas9349
She knew he remarry, and then those kids wouldn't get a penny. Smart woman.
He never said he won’t ever give them the money. He explained they are to young to manage that kind of money now, that’s it. Also you don’t know if the guys are even good a managing money at all.
@@rafaelcardenas515 It's just an excuse by him to get the $$$ back for his and his new wife's new home...didn't he said his new wife wanted them to take that $$$ and put it into a home equity project for them? Yes, he did. That 1st wife was a smart cookie. She knew the dad would screw the kids out of their inheritance once he met someone new. And the kids don't trust dad either in getting 1/2 of the proceeds when he dies. What is he complaining about?. Even giving the kids $200K each (25% of the house proceeds from the potential sale), he's STILL getting $400K himself for him and his new wife. Getting $200K can change a young person's life completely...in a good way. That's why the kids want the $$$ now and don't trust dad with the new wife.
It might make sense if we weren't talking about the marital primary residence. I would never give any ownership to my children before both spouses pass. You handle that with a will
Yep. The wife saw this coming
I have seen at least twice that men remarrying after a divorce or death of their first wife and the current wife getting everything after the man dies. All of the money and items went to the current wife and HER children. So sad for my friends! And this was in two small towns less than a population of 800. One of the instances (talking about the third marriage)was the current wife’s second time as she did it to her second husband’s family. Special place in hell for these kind of people. The caller has unintentionally hinted at some red flags with this new relationship. His children are so correct in holding their ground!
I'm 100% convinced he does not have his children's best interests in heart
If he had he would talk to his kids and put the money in a trust that pays it out for a first time home purchase or education or something instead of just trying to get out of it entirely.
Gross.
@@Sadreath He can't do that now.
Me too.
Imagine the colleges when they realize the 18 year old has 200k in his own name on the financial aid form.@@meomy29
What 18 year old knows how to handle $200,000.
The fact that he's getting married barely a year later, and moving out of state while trying to bilk his young kids out of $400K tells you all you need to know about him.
Exactly.
No good cheater
It is soon, but doesn’t mean he’s a cheater. Some people need a support system and can’t be alone for long. Other people need time alone to process. Some people are ready to marry someone after a few months, some people take a long time. I don’t see a cheater necessarily. But I don’t like him wanting to go back on his late wife’s dying wish that he already agreed to.
That being said, he shouldn’t give away 1/4 of his home before he passes away. Technically they should be getting the legacy when both parents have passed away. But that was his screw up, and he has to live with it.
Agreed this dude's getting fleeced by a gold digger at the expense of his kids.
@@ecclairmayo4153 What do you base that on?
I want an update on this call! I really hope the kids kept their mom’s money.
Woah.....this wife knew this man's heart. She knew exactly what to do to help her children from the grave.
Exactly. He probably was seeing this lady before his wife died. And his wife knew.
@@patrickmartin8479 I was thinking that too, especially when he said long distance relationship. I really hope not, but you know.
Amen !! ❤
The guy sounds so unattached when he was talking about his dead wife, like a care salesman listing off the features of a car he wants to sell you. I did not hear a shred of emotion in his voice. It's like he going down a checklist and saying all the "correct" things to get Dave on his side. He honestly sounds like a bit of psychopath who can talk like a regular human, but can't fake the emotions that a regular human would feel.
I agree that he was probably seeing this woman while his wife was dying. She knew and instead of confronting him, she got him to agree to this arrangement to make sure the kids would get something before the new girl bleeds him dry.
I'm so happy to see all these comments supporting the children. I hope the Ramsey crew read them.
I think the deceased wife knew something was up with the husband, hence she wanted this quit claim deed in place to protect the kids. Smart. Bless this woman
I think he was chatting with this lady for a lot longer than a year.
@@thedopplereffect00 exactly.
Sometimes when men find out their wife has cancer they meet the new woman while their wife is dying.
Giving an 18 year old that much money is not necessarily a good idea. I would wait until they are 25 to receive the money.
@@FreeSpirit47 It's too late plus it's even a worse idea to have it go with the dad and the new women in his life who didn't contribute to this family to this point!
Simply teach your kids the money worth. Have them use it to go to college and invest or get a condo! With that kind of money they are off to a great start in life when they get some help of how to put it in use but that only works when the dad tried to actually teach them for their sake. It's bad enough to lose your mother so young. It's a huge betrayal when the dad wants to ask for that money back
Those kids were blessed to have a Mama like that protecting their inheritance.
At 18 and 21 the inheritance will be gone sooner than later.
@@gregorychiasson7739 So?
@@gregorychiasson7739 better than getting none and their mom legacy spent on the new woman
@@dacianbonta2840 so that is obviously what mom didn’t want her hard earned life spent on foolishness possibly to her children’s demise have you no wisdom?
shame on his father. he is trying to take all the money back so he can spend it with his new wife.
I'm glad the comments section knows what's up. Caller obviously doesn't have his kid's best interest at heart.
Yeah except the top comment is some dude blaming the new wife 100% and not realizing the husband is the bad guy
He made my skin crawl. “I want to safeguard this money and buy my new wife a house with it” what a loser
The mother gave her portion to her kids so he has no say in the matter. I would give them the option of setting up a trust in their name to slowly dole the money out or as a down payment on a home or giving it all to them at once to blow. Let them understand that if they blow it to not come to you for money ever again. Hopefully the kids are smart enough to not give this guy control of their money.
Probably not even his kids he need a dna test
But nothing for my kids just this new gal I've known for a little over a year.
I bet he was cheating before his wife died.
Exactly he's a thief dressed in a princes clothes
His New Wife is entitled to his wealth.
He married her.
I think his dying wife knew him pretty well.
absolutely. what a scumbag, consulting lawyers even
That part!😂
Exactly! B/c i dont believe that is common to do b4 one dies. Mom was looking out for her babies.
Smart woman ❤. I hope the kids don't give in, because it's clear their dad has been cheating on their wonderful, kind mother while she was fighting cancer.
@@home4life505 Yup, she knew she could manipulate him in a time of stress and used it as leverage to look out for her kids. Hopefully the kids told him to kick rocks.
His new wife wants that money. Suddenly he is worried about the "lesson" which is his excuse to get his kids to give the money back. His wife wanted this and he agreed. Deal is done.
call her the fleecing future ex-wife
Exactly...major red flag.
Yep she wants that Mercedes.
This was exactly what his wife was afraid of!
If this man reared his children right, then having a big windfall will be a blessing, not a curse. I think it is a "new wife" issue.
This is not a burden for the kids. This is a perfect opportunity to teach investing, how to obtain and maintain wealth.
He is just trying to manipulate the hosts . He doesn’t have the best interest in his heart for his kids that’s 4 sure!!
@@MegaMarVerde 🎯🎯
His new wife is telling him to take the money back from them
Yep..
That was my thought
Yep she wants a new car or a nice new house.
Same though
Exactly
Nobody mentioned that the mom owned 50% of the house! Usually it would pass to the husband and she decided to give her half to the kids instead of him. It was hers to give away. He should honor her wishes. So sad he can’t buy another expensive home, but that half of the house wasn’t ever his anyway.
It's a shame she had to take these measures because she knew her husband was most likely cheating while she was fighting for her life.
The mom had the right intuition. In her last moments she cared enough about her kids. Sounds like a sweet lady.
The mom was a genius. I have mad respect for her.
He could still have a pretty decent home with his half if his deceased wife's half goes to their kids.
The reality of this entire situation is that he's getting remarried and has become greedy! He wants all the money because, fact is, that's impressive!
He imagines how much more appealing he would be to his new finance, if only, if only he had all the money to himself!
This one's far too obvious!
Thank God his grown kids are protected in this situation and if they make mistakes and unwise decisions with it, so be it, it's their mistakes to make and like everyone else, may they learn from them!°
These "kids" are adults. The youngest is 18. This man dated and married all within 18 months, he knew exactly what he's doing. Going to give the new woman all the mothers money. Mom well done.
My MIL started dating 3 months after she buried her second husband. New boyfriend is a gold digger X10.
He was probably dating before she even died. This guy sucks.
Yeah wife probably even found out about his affair and thought I don’t have time or energy for confrontations. Let me just protect my kids.
This guy says oh I want to use the equity in this home to buy a new home. This guy is a loser. He could be giving an 18 and 21 year-old their college completely paid for or if they already have scholarships that is one healthy down payment on a starter home for them, which that is what he should tell them you and your brother are getting 200,000 each money. I will hold onto it for you. They’ll be used for school and what you don’t use for school that will be your down payment for a home then he just set his kids up for successwith a home that’s almost paid off
18 months...😮
HAHAHAHA “their best interest at heart” bro wants to steal $400k from his kids to marry a new woman.
Basically
Agreed
Kids lose their mom at a young age and then the dad decides to move in with his side chick and give everything to her. Boy this guy is a real piece of work. His deceased wife was smart and knew his ways
100% agree.
Yep. Protected her kids, to give the equity her and he had built together in the house to go to the kids instead of the new wife, really smart cookie.
The kids are adults
Spot on. Most likely he was cheating while his wife was fighting cancer. Good on the kids for fighting for what's rightfully theirs.
@@LeesaLilHop Yup, adults with 25% each because their mother love them and took care of them, something that their father is not interested in doing. Let his new wife put up the remaining 50% for the house.
Married 18 months after wife died, trying to take money back from kids. Damn. They will NEVER forgive you if you do that.
He's okay with that. He's already moving out of state. They are out of his life as soon as he gets them to forfeit the money.
So many fathers ditch their kids at the behest of a new wife.
"How can I manipulate my kids into letting me get 100% of the proceeds of this home sale."
Wow, dude, mom knew _exactly_ what you were capable of.
Or get a court to do it, he kept saying " I wasn't in my right mind" . His lawyer probably told him he can't get out of it and he was hoping Dave would tell him different.
What mom doesn't know is that the money will be gone in a heartbeat. She made a terrible decision. She should've said they get the money when they are 30 AND the kids NEVER should've been told about it because they will then live their life knowing they will get the money. Dumb!
The kids dont deserve any of that 800k at 20 years old lmao what are you smoking? He paid for that home
@@claypool0 exactly!
@@RichLclips No, he and her built equity in that house together, and mama, the really smart cookie made sure it went to her kids instead of the new wife, even if they blow it who would you rather blow your money, your kids or hubby's new wife?
That was a smart Mama. She covered her babies. Principle AND character IS THE POINT. Honoring his dead wife’s wishes as he agreed to IS THE POINT. She is the one to help him build that legacy. Not gambling with his kids money to buy a house for another woman that may not be as invested in a good legacy is A MAJOR POINT! Dropped the ball on this one Dave.
Yup! Agree 💯
Dave should have read the comments to know what was really going on with this guy. But the one good piece of advice he gave, was to get a prenup 👍🏽
Dying wife ensured her kids would get her half of the equity in the house instead of the new wife, this mama was one smart cookie.
She was a lawyer. She knew how things worked and clearly knew her husband. 😒
He’s a grown man who cared for a dying wife and is about to lose half the value of his home to the tune of almost half a million dollars. Why are the grown children entitled to that? She pulled a bit of a swindle move at the end as opposed to actually setting money aside throughout life to leave them, which if that was so important she would’ve. It seems like she made an irrational decision near death. this guy is at a nearly half a million loss and now has to pick up the pieces and move forward and y’all are acting like he’s some evil a-hole.
@@johnathanlatman2507it wasn't his half. They both owned half the house. The mother wants her half left to her kids & not to him & his new wife. What's confusing about that for you?
@johnathanlatman2507 because it was her money, and she wanted her children to have part of it. Good for her
She didn't make sn irrational decision. She knew it was very likely the husband would remarry bc he obviously has a 20 & 18 year old & many widowers remarry too soon. . The mistake she made was not putting the money in a trust till the kids were older. She knew she was dying & her kids were 17 & 19-ish when she died.@johnathanlatman2507
His wife died from cancer a year and a half ago and he's already marrying someone else and backtracking on a promise he made to her for her children?? What a gem.
If my wife were to die I can’t imagine ever remarrying. 1 year later seems completely insane!
💯 i thought maybe i heard the call wrong n she might have passed away some time ago. A yr n half n ur already remarrying!?!?!?!?! WOW!!!! So much for all the "nice" things he said about her.
How can anyone ever remarry? Bastard!
You guys don't know his story. No one can say how love goes for another couple. Stats say happily married men remarry after being widowed much faster than happily married women. Perhaps they know how to trust and love deeply and seek to have needs met with another good woman -- that's no sin. Perhaps men and women are different. Perhaps all individuals are different. His new wife may have some input, but it wasn't evident in any way by his call. And anyone with kids knows money can throw them for a loop. Maybe hold your judgement.
@@mmmmdddd2267its pretty obvious the new wife wants the money.
"I do not hear you wanting to take this money and buy your new wife a Mercedes" funny cause I sure heard it.
Though not a Mercedes, just they security of a home. New wife gets it, and the father in his "new life." Children of suffering woman, now in earliest adulthood, get to feel shame and awkwardness if even visiting. What an appropriate addition to their recent loss.
But here is another question, how frequently does such as this play out?
And would the children actually have been better off in 14th century, plague-ridden Europe. Destitute yes, but no expectations and no betrayal.
Yep. ... not buying her a Mercedes... just a nice big house!
I think he's trying to not be ultra confrontational so this guy doesn't fly off and ignore his advice right off the bat.
Not a Mercedes. A new house that they want to “carry the equity into”. He flat out stated it and the fact that he was allowed to slide and not get called out is DISGUSTING
@@Burlykim13 Absolutely! He wanted to take the money his wife left for her kids and buy a bigger house for his new wife. He may have been worried about the kids squandering it, but he wasn't intending to teach good stewardship and finance...he wanted a bigger house!
Losing your mother at 17-18 and 20-21 is not getting a windfall
He said the quiet part out loud-we want to put that equity into our next house… . This isn’t about him being concerned about his kids getting a bunch of money. This is about him and his new honey not getting it.
EXACTLY! I'm surprised by how many people missed that part. Geez...he STILL would be getting about $400,000, even giving the kids their 25% share. How much $$$ does this guy need for his new house? You can buy a substantial house (the WHOLE house) for $400,000 where I live.
Both things can be true and both are totally normal. I would never expect my spouse to give up any ownership interest in our primary residence prior to both of our passing. I don't know anyone who transferrs any % of ownership in a primary residence before both spouses have passed. You write a will to account for it. its totally normal for a widow(er) to keep full ownerhsip and financial gain of a primary residence until both have passed.
@@chipdouglas9349In my mind, it’s disingenuous for him to call the show and act like he’s worried about how the kids will spend the money rather than just saying he now wants the money for his new life. People also have different kinds of arrangements they agree to when someone is alive and then change their minds when the person dies. That’s understandable. But best not to call the show and try to take everyone for a ride.
@@MzMiata How is it disingenuous? Both concerns are valid concerns and can exist simultaneously. He seems to be flexible on a solution.
Most married people expect to have full ownership and its benefits of their primary residence until both spouses pass before passing onto their children.
Most children have the same expectation in the average married family.
I understand what you are saying-that might be the normal course of things. But that is not what happened in this case, according to the call. He said that he and his dying wife agreed to give the children part of the equity in the home. Now he has changed his mind and wants all the money. That’s his business-unless he calls a nationwide/worldwide advice show and tries to convince the hosts and the listeners that he is simply watching out for the good of the kids by keeping the money. That’s disingenuous. And you can let him know the next time you see him. 😉
He’s moving to Atlanta while he has a teenager in high school. These poor kids lost their mom and their father too.
Selfish
😢 that is rough
In the beginning it sounded like he wanted to help the kids protect the money. Then he said “We want to carry this equity into our next house”. That means he just wants the money for himself. What a creep.
Cappppp
Exactly.
Imagine trying to screw your own kids out of money… awful. He has 400k to take into new house be freaking grateful. Some widowers don’t get that.
If he wanted to help the kids protect the money, take them to a financial planner, talk about their long term goals and how this money can be put to good use. Don’t try to steal it 😂
There was no point where this guy sounded like a decent human being
I don't really understand why Dave didn't confront him. I mean sure, he doesn't know for sure if he wants good for his children or just wants their money, but when this was mentioned, he could at least say that hey, that money is your children's, you can't move out of state and use it for another house. If you just want to save them from early big money, convice them to put it in some low risk investment until they are 25 or sg.
Now I only see a widowed man remarried in 1,5 years, wanting his dead wife's piece of equity in their home taken back from his children to use it to buy his new house with his new wife in the sake of looking after his children. And I see two adults with some equity from their dead mother that their dad wants to take away saying they are not responsible.
Also, if the children called with the same story, I think Dave would roast the dad.
Yea, $200k would just ruin these young adults life. God forbid they purchase their own home, pay off their school tuition, make some investments, get some breathing room. That would just be awful.
An 18 year old is going to do all that? Lol. That money will be gone in a couple years.
@@GDuncan8002this super concerned financially responsible father didn’t teach his children he’s so concerned with financial literacy???? Okay.
@@GDuncan8002 , their dad could invest for them to take Ramsey's Financial Peace University course to support and empower them in making wise decisions.
If I was him, and I was truly worried about their lack of maturity in managing the money, I wouldn’t sell the house right now. Are they even all on board with selling? Does he have the power to make that decision on his own?
The girl is still in high school, is she supposed to just figure out her living situation right after graduation, because dad is remarrying and moving away? That’s how you put her in a tight spot, and that’s how she ends up mismanaging 200k.
Also, for the 21yo young man in Orlando, $200k won’t get him much in terms of a property there, either. So he needs a caring father to support him on how to invest that. Who knows if he is there just for schooling, and planning to return home upon graduation, so then he can make sound decisions in terms of work and living situation.
Losing your mother to cancer at those ages is already hard enough. Losing your father too, over money and greed… That’s way too much to handle.
@@GDuncan8002there are accounts they can put it into where they can only take out a certain amount each year (at least in the uk). Also with the absolute insanity that is US school fees, I’m guessing if they are heading to college, that’s what they’ll use the money for. But at the end of the day, it was their mom’s wish to give them the money- they are 18. It’s not like every person who is older is responsible with money either- my mom is 65 and has blown through £140,000 in a few years.
Protect your children from the stepmother. Stepparents are notorious for siphoning children's inheritance. Don't steal from your children. This is THEIR inheritance. Protect your children from your second wife. Why do you need a second wife, anyway? Remarrying so soon is so hurtful to children. And to add insult to injury, you're trying to steal their inheritance. This will destroy your relationship with them. They will have lost both parents. That's awful. If you're really worried they will be irresponsible with the money, advise them on how to invest the money. But don't steal their money.
You both gave this man a lot of grace. His wife essentially left the kids her half of the house. The money is theirs, not the caller's. Saying "give me the monry now and I'll give you more in 40+ years" is a terrible "compromise".
Bet the new wife expects $$$$$$. What if the kids quitclaim it back, and then the husband ends up giving it all to the new wife.
it NOT HERS to leave
@@stevemyopinion423 Yes, it was. Half of the house belongs to the spouse. Had the mom not done what she did, half of her share will go to the new wife by law and the kids will get nothing. Just ask any divorce lawyer.
deponds on the state and any thing they sign before hand.
@@stevemyopinion423 That was why the wife signed a quit claim to give her share to their kids. So in this case, it was hers by law whether she contributed to its purchase or not. It depends on the scenario here and the husband even admitted that his lawyer said so as well.
"I don't understand why my kids don't want to let me take THEIR money so ME and MY NEW WIFE can have a better life." I think the wife had a feeling the kids needed to be protected after she left... wish she made a trust instead for the money but her instincts seem right.
Yeah agreed! I am totally questioning this guys ethics and morality.. it sounded like he and his new wife wanted the additional equity for their new house / life, and the.. oh I’m concerned about what the money will do to my young kids is just an excuse.
@@luketarplin I agree also!
@@luketarplin yeah that was ridiculous
Especially since they’re college age at that😂 those kids can get their degree with no debt at all
Agreed
Mom was the smartest. She took HER 50% and gave it to HER children- 25% and 25%. Very fair. I wouldn’t want any new wife or her new children coming to take from what I worked so hard for from my 2 children either. Why isn’t dad satisfied with his 50%?? The other 50% belong to his adult kids- not his new wife. Disgusting.
Probably knew something was up before her death..smart move..
@andrewatkinson3700 she clearly did. She knew exactly what her husband would do after she died
💯
Well usually when you’re the breadwinner and pay for the entirety of everything and this home is built on your blood sweat and tears, being “happy with his 50%” to the tune of a nearly half a million dollar loss isn’t as easy as you make it sound.
@@johnathanlatman2507he never said that he paid for the whole thing, just that he was the nerd in the house and finances "weren't his wife's strong suit". For all you know, they had a 50/50 marriage and there was no "breadwinner"
I disagree with Dave... I hear this guy heart is in the wrong place. He wants it back for him and his new wife. He just ruined his relationship with his kids.
He definitely knows something is up when you see how he brought up the prenup multiple times.
I would never give any of my children any ownership of my primary residence and wouldbn't expect my spouse to agree to that prior to both married spouses passing. That is the norm. He is completely resonable for being concenred that it is too young to pass on $200 and he obvioulsy is open to some alterntive arrangement. I would never expect my spouse to give up any ownership interest in our primary residence prior to both of our passing. I don't know anyone who transferrs any % of ownership in a primary residence before both spouses have passed. You write a will to account for it. its totally normal for a widow(er) to keep full ownerhsip and financial gain of a primary residence until both have passed.
@@chipdouglas9349 well this guy is not to be trusted. He doesn't have the kids best interest at heart
@@chipdouglas9349 you're a selfish pos then. You know the dude want to use the money for his new house. Def not saving it for his kids. Hope the kids got the money
@@TonyStark-wr7ob How am I selish? I am just commenting on the case. One of his wants is to sell the house and use some or all of the proceeds to buy another house. That is a fairly normal transaction after one spouse dies and the other is still living. That is how most estates are structured.
Regardless fo which one of us passes first our primary residence dosn't go to our children intil both of us pass. Neiher one of us considers the other selfish. We consider it common sense.
When he dies I would assume he intends to leave his house and any assets to his kids. He clearly seems concerned about their long-term financial success. and is concerned that they are getting too much money all at once.
He was tranparent with all of his concerns and his wife and kids perspectives and interests and was seeking moral guidance from an objective person he trusts on how to proceed before making any decisions.
It is very telling that he didn't ask how best to help the kids handle the money. It was all about him getting to keep it.
Yes, he is saying that loud and clear!
Yes but his kids have nothing to do financially with that house. Did they help pay the mortgage or pay for anything associated with the house? Most likely not. The guy is kind of dumb for agreeing to that, but the kids sound more money hungry than he does. I do agree with Dave that he gets a prenuptial with his new wife so his kids inherit what essentially his deceased wife wanted when he passes
@keny46 kids didn't make the decision, mom did. She can give her money to whomever she wants. She probably suspected he was cheating before her death. We are all speculating but dad screwed up and signed the paper
@@andrewatkinson3700I'm guessing their mom, his wife, knew him well that he would have cheated their kids at the end anyway (assuming here if he dies first than his new wife), because look at him now showing his true colors talking to lawyer how to get hands on their inheritance not once saying "yes, good idea making a will" nor asking Dave how can I assist my kids in managing their money to the best advantage for their future. And another red flag, not once he said having a great relationship with his kids was his priority.Btw, he is getting married to a great gal and they are having a long distant relationship. OMG.
@@keny46he probably had no choice half clearly belonged to his deceased wife and she gave it to her kids. I’m sure there was nothing he could do to stop that! So he waits till she dead and tries to swindle the kids! Sad
I keep hearing they are too young to have that amount of money, but to me that’s a good amount to be able to attend college and get a masters without having to work and worry about housing and transportation. What a great set up to start your adult career/life without the added stress! I would be so thankful to mom!
Wife died 1-1/2 yrs ago. And he’s getting married already. Classy.
Meh, that's by far the least scummy part of this. A year is plenty of time to mourn
Most widowers are in a long term relationship with a year and remarried within 2 years
They ALWAYS do this.
@@AngieMcdonald-fu9nhNo its around 60%.
My Dad remarried 14 months later. Only dated her 4 months and it was the best thing for him. He was never meant to be only.
I listened to this. He wants that money for himself and his new wife I could hear it in his voice. I’m with the kids on this. Dave misread this 💯
Yeah Dave seemed puzzled and confused by this one, I don't think he got it right at all
I think Dave took him at face value to start by the way he presented it. Dave had him pegged by the end
It is because the guy said they were good Christian people
I listened to this twice. Once the guy comes totally clean about his kids wanting the money, Dave pulled his card. The caller was definitely being manipulative in the beginning talking about his wife being a Christian, lol.
Dave said it first to say I'll pretend with you.
I hope the kids listened to this, read the comments and DID NOT sign their rights to the money over to their father! Dave is usually spot on with his advice but he blew it on this one.
Don’t worry, my sister and I did not sign our rights away!
@@cgbeats5027 I'm glad to read this. I'm so sorry for the loss of your mom and I hope everything worked out for all of you.
@@cgbeats5027God bless you both.
How did he blow it? He agreed with the original agreement, kids get the money.
@@cgbeats5027 IF it's not too much to ask, a year after your mom dies, he wants to remarry? tell us a little about this. And don't sign a damn thing.
There was not a word on "how to help or teach them handle it correctly so it benefits them long term". He just wanted the money.
And the worst father of the year award goes to...
Not the worst. But…
And husband towards the late wife
Drum roll, please......
*cymbals crash*
This guy.
Well done sir, you've been gold dug at the expense of your relationship with your children.
I'm sure this long distance love affair with the woman in Dallas will be peaches and rainbows.
Dave said this is a bad decision that he signed that clause , I completely disagree. He’s shady and his late wife protected the kids. Great mom
The only thing that would have made this “better” was if she created a trust for them to access when they turned a certain age (like 25) - it would still reach the same goal, but they wouldn’t have to deal with an influx of that much cash at such a young age and it would put them in a waaaaay better tax situation. But that’s still presuming they aren’t mature enough to handle that kind of money at their current ages, which might not be the case at all. Some 18 year olds are responsible af, and it’s totally possible mom taught them how to manage money well.
@@lexi219How I see it is that the mother clearly knows her kids would be responsible with that money, and wouldn’t have given them that much money if she didn’t trust them to be wise with it.
Mom looked out for her babies. She knew her husband was a piece of work.
His wife died a year and a half ago and he’s already getting remarried? Mama knew exactly what she was doing. The $400k he will be getting from the sale of his house will be more than enough to buy a house with his new wife. He needs to have a will to make sure that $400k plus appreciation and his other assets that he has going into the marriage is left to his children. Any new wealth he accumulates from the day he gets married should go half to his new wife and 25% to each of his children.
Not if he has more children with the new wife. They would also be his children and have a right to some of his money.
He's just a scumbag.
Mama knew that whoever he loves in the future he will love more than his kids. She’s now their Angel looking upon them having saved her portion of the land for them. What a heart of Gold!
A good mother! ❤
Amen
This dude is full of it, A real piece of work. He wants the money for his new wife and himself
Exactly
I like how He presents it like 'It's in the best interest of the kids '
No it's NOT
100% I don’t understand why they should even trust him to include it in his will. Besides unless the father starts a new family he should give them the money when he dies anyway
Kudos to the momma in heaven she knew what she was dealing with and protected her kids
His new girlfriend wants the money for a new house and the kids know it. He knows it, too.
1000%
Sounds like they want to move, but yeah. Nothing good can come from fighting this, especially with a new wife and still greiving kids. Frankly, he should realize it's a lost cause without even calling in.
Bingo!
The fact he talked to his lawyer about getting out of it, just shows the kids EXACTLY where his priority is... and it's not them. Dead wife sensed it and guaranteed his selfish ways wouldn't make the children suffer.
@@colleenduffy1139 frankly, the fact he even thought about going back on his promise and tried to convince the kids he was in the right... is the most disgusting immoral thing I've heard in a very long time.
this guy's a sleeze ball- honor your late wife's wishes like you said you would
100 percent! If I was his kid I would be beside myself!
I could see him saying "no," but now that he's done it, he should stick to the deal.
Yes, talking that christian talk. While screwing his kids
Ecactly...smh
I don't think he is a sleaze, he is still grieving, wants to fill the hole in his life, kids are still young, never should have
agreed to hand over that kind of $$ to adolescents and he met a demanding woman who is bad news, but he is
still grieving...he probably isn't fifty yet. Grief takes a huge toll.
I'm with the kids on this one. Who's to say he doesn't spend that 800k over the next 40 years and then they get nothing 🤷
The equity will go into the new house, he and new wife will hold title, and when he dies it will all be hers. That’s what would happen.
@@genxx2724 Exactly - new wife is not signing an pre nuptial especially if she is contributing to the house.
@@clarifyingquestions Yes, especially if she is contributing. It’s a sticky wicket. Uncle Dave is naive.
I also agree with the kids and the deceased mother.
Wife been gone just 18 months and gettin married. Not good. I’ve had long term gf’s I wasn’t over after 18 months. The mother of this dudes kids?? Something fishy
Yup..."use it for equity in the new house" Tells the whole story right there. New wife...new life.
Sounds like the Mom had great instincts and protected her kids from a dad that goes back on his word. I'd genuinely not trust a dad that says I'll pay you later after hearing I'm taking back what I promised you.
Not just taking back what I promised you. Taking back what I've already given you.
very good point!
He regrets not having extra for the new girlfriend. The kids deserve the money.
Kids are 18 and 21; the Dad is the problem, or his new girlfriend.
He's the problem. No amount of pressure from a new man would make me try to get my children's money from them.
Dave, in this rare instance you got this one 100% wrong.
- You are NOT treating the Adult offspring as Adults
- You are not supporting the Mother's active. valid and legal wish for her children
- You are enabling this "man" to rationalize taking back from his children what their mother gave them.
Shame on you.
WICKED STEPMOTHER
She literally just passed away…and he’s already met someone new, decided to marry her, and wants to destroy what remains of his late wife’s final wish on this earth…😔
Real rough on the kids, especially the daughter who is younger
I doubt this lady is new.
@@kokoskokso It’s sickening. I hope the kids have aunts, uncles, and grandparents, because their nuclear family is gone.
@@genxx2724 I hope so too. It's enough to deal with going through puberty and growing up as is, now losing a mother and having to deal with a scumbag of a father, plus selling their house, way too much.
And selling the home that it sounds like the kids might’ve grown up in 1.5 year after they’ve loss their mom. This is just gross.
That mama was really thinking about her children. That's what a loving mother does. She knew full well that if he remarried, either all the money would get blown before her children ever get any inheritance. Or he might die first and a practical stranger gets everything she worked for her entire life, and her kids get nothing. She did the right thing, for sure. So sad she's gone, but her children can have some comfort knowing they were her first priority.
I bet if daddy died mommy would have kept all the money and the kids would have seen nothing until mommy passed. Then they would likely find out that she reverse mortgaged the home and that there is little to nothing left.
@@apersonontheinternet8006 she likeley wouldnt marry 18months after. the sleeze ball had a side chick while his wife was dying, the bastard. Great mother. Her kids will get that money
Now hes in his mind thinking with the little head
Cmon Dave call this guy out! Getting remarried 18 mos later…and long distance relationship? The kids already hate him and he wants to make it worse.
Right! And where are the kids living? I know they are young adults...but 18 and 21. He can't even wait for the youngest to get through college.
Yah they’re so living in their childhood home and yikes. They’re young adults on their own and he wants to basically abandon them right after their mom died for a long distance with who knows who? Always have a will and trust to protect the interests of your kids.
“My mind wasn’t in the right spot”. Sounds like his wife took advantage of a gap in his greed and protected her kids.
My parents both passed away when I was little, and I received the life insurance money they left me when I turned 18 (about $150k). I still have that money in my investment account and it has more than doubled now after 10+ years. Not all 18 year olds are going to spend away a big chunk of money if they're responsible especially if it's their mother's last gift to them. With a little guidance, they may even learn to build wealth at an early age.
Sorry for your lost. Glad you're doing well from what it seems.
Sorry for you loss, Yes, windfalls are generally not good for any human, regardless of age, but I agree with you that the gravity of the gift from your mother (who clearly loved them dearly) would definitely tend to give pause to squandering the money. I hope the "Dad" didn't find a loophole, and they are being responsible as you were.
So sorry for your loss!
1) when I was 18 I opened a Roth IRA and invested $3,000 basically everything from working my first job as a hostess at an Old Chicago. That retirement account helps us buy our first home and is trucking along higher than ever before!
2) when my sister in law passed away we set aside SSDI and probate inheritance for our nephew about $30k and he received that when he aged out of guardianship at 19. I don’t know if he’s been responsible with it or not but it’s not our choice. We just wanted him to have something, a little nest egg, a small blessing from his mom passing to make a new life for himself. He can learn good and bad from it on his own.
The wife was so smart.. she knew he would remarry immediately and all the work she put into the house would be gone and going to someone who doesn’t deserve it… she gave her half of the house to her kids. Kudos to the mom 👏 dad and new wifey can suck it.
I hope the kids will know to buy their own house with that money!
I lowkey hope his new wife rinses him of everything because that's what he tried to do to his kids smh
Stay strong kids! Your dad is selfish and out for his own interests.
Dave said “PRENUP”!
This man is about to get taken for every penny he has. He is going to be glad his kids got half now!
Actually that’s a good point, isn’t Dave usually against prenups?
@@voidfroze Yes, on your first marriage...
He said it about 6 times - that if he took the money back the kids wouldn't get 25%, they would get 50%. He tried in so many words to make it clear that if this guy flipped that money into equity in a new house that they would get ALL of it when he died and PRENUP and the guy is completely nonreactive to that, eg he's not going to do it. He wants the money for a new house, even says as much, and that new house would go to the new wife. This guy's deceased wife knew what was up and made sure her kids got her half up front. She's smart. @@voidfroze
Not to mention, pre-nups can get broken if the new wife convinces him long enough.
The difference is it’s a prenup to protect kids in case of death, not to protect himself in case of divorce.
This caller is the definition of greed. Give your kids the money and teach them how to invest it so they have their futures in order. What a piece of work.
Exactly of kids out that in a good index fund or the Ramsey mutual fund formula, they won't have to worry about retirement. Or at least have one heck of a head start
I found it interesting there was no reference to teaching the kids how to invest the money.
I agree. He made it sound like his main worry was them having the money young. That wasn't his concern at all.
That's what I was hoping he said at some point 🙄 SMH! Kids 🏃♀️ 🏃♂️
The new wife found out about the money, and she wants it. She knows if it's in his name all she has to do is divorce him and she gets half.
Your wife just died and you ready to move onto next marriage?
I am a divorced man and for my kids well being, I haven’t even date anyone for almost 3 years now. Come on man!
Take care of your kids!
Thank god for those kids mother 🧡 she wanted to make sure her children would be okay . This is about starting again with a new woman and the max amount of cash possible for whatever lifestyle he provided. Those kids are the last thing he’s thinking about.
If he was actually worried about them having the money early, he would try to get them to put the money in the trust for themselves instead of giving it to him so he can move on with a new woman. Good job mom looking out for your kids.
Or not sell the house until later.
I had almost the same thought as you, except I was thinking the kids take the money and max out their Roth IRAs, 401k, open a 529 education plan, etc. Any funds remaining could be used to open a regular stock mutual fund as a placeholder on a future home down payment. Lastly spend a couple thousand to honor their mother, like a trip to the mother's home country or exotic place she longed to visit but never could.
@@Austenfan177 New fiancée is rushing him.
He talked about his new brand new relationship before he talked about his kids 😒😒 you can hear in his voice that he’s more upset about not having access to the money than he is worried for his children.
Correct. Have the kids put it in a trust where he is the co-trustee, and his relationship as co-trustee expires when they turn 30.
He helps manage the money, make good financial decisions with it, and at 30 years old, his role expires and they either learned the lesson or they didn’t
I'm 95% sure mom talked to those kids and told them about her plan. She more then likely told them there dad has a mistress and I'm curtained she told them how to manage that money when dad wasn't around. Good job mom thanks for looking out for your kids.
Yes, would not be surprised if he had a mistress, ready to step in after the wife died.
@BudgetwithAllisonSummer - You're reading a lot into this. None of us really know the real truth of this story. We can only go on what the dad says.
How can you actually say 95% sure when you know nothing about this family!
@@michaelschneider9305 because I'm a mother and a REAL mothers love excesses race, age, religion and everything else. She sounds like a real mother.
@@ekl2947 You try to tell an 18 year old not to buy a $70k car just because you have the money in the bank right now. Try and tell a 21 year old not to waste their money traveling and put it into an investment portfolio so that they can reap the benefits in another 15 years.
Isn't it weird how any time the man dies first everyone still has to wait for mom to die to get their portion of those assets because "she needs the money, how is she supposed to live" yet when mom dies and leaves the kids money she is "just looking out for the kids"?
Women - "Whats yours is ours and what is mine is mine".
My Dad promised my Mom that my brother and I would get his estate. He remarried within the year after she passed. Long story short....she got everything., then died and left it to her kids. I always told my folks that I wasn't going to rely on them as my retirement fund, and I'm glad I didn't. If you want your kids to have something then put it in your will...don't count on your spouse to do it.
wow so sorry to hear that. sounds like you're tough though and deal with it well.. sucks none the less.
Yep
It doesn't help you any, but at least this one worked out OK for the kids.
Sorry to hear that happened to you. Like you said he should have set up a will or a trust to make sure you and your brother got your fair share if his estate.
Yup
Best line ever..."Now you're fighting against the Angels", that man/father made a promise to his deceased wife and their children. Honor it!!!!
Lol he 100% wants the equity for his “long term” sugar baby
It's only been a year since the wife passed and now he's getting married? Wow. Dude moves on pretty quick
Not as quickly as a woman does
it's not uncommon.
At that age, why would you wait. There's no reason. They aren't 19
My dad did the same thing. He got a 35 year old pregnant and he's 58. He lost respect from all his kids and we all stopped talking to him
Some men are weak for attention from new women - even at the expense of their children
What a terrible call. Dave suggesting that the kids sign over their rights to half the current house in exchange for 100% of dad's new house upon his death (possibly decades from now) is just bizarre. They own half the house. If they wanted to they could demand the equity right now, forcing a sale if dad can't afford to buy them out.
What kind of parent would try to steal money from their own kids who've just lost mom or dad?
This caller would.
And they're still so young.. Daughter 18, son 21.. I feel for them, especially the daughter, doesn't sound like dad was much of a support after their mom passed.
This what people do choose new spouse over old spouse’s kids. It’s gross and immoral but it happens.
Disgraceful. What a revolting human being.
Ecactly...smh..so sad.
He's changing his mind before her body is cold in the ground. She was smart, she knew him well, better the children gets the money that some random stepmother and her kids
Respect to Ken for not co-signing this BS!
Ok after reading these comments I'm so relieved I wasn't the only one who got D-Bag vibes from this guy!! I couldn't believe how compassionate and understanding Dave was with him!!
If his kids ever read this - I am so sorry about your mom's passing, she was an incredible woman and parent to put her children first. Unfortunately your father is not that type of parent and is trying to put his new woman before his children. You do NOT owe your father anything! Take your mother's blessing, move away, be wise with the money, and keep that toxic man at a very long arm's length.
Praying this man gets right with God and learns what's important before it's too late.
Beautifully said.
He's a grieving widow grabbing at life. Be understanding. His insanity will pass.
This whole call is suspect. I don’t believe this guy‘s intent is to protect his children at all. How you move on when you move on is your business but you made a promise to your late wife and to your kids honor it.
The guilt should make him want to give the kids their money, so he feels justified in moving on.
yep he claims Ramsey helped him make generational changes in his life, and now he's going to undo all that for some new chick.
@@Lon1001 he's full of baloney
This man has NO integrity at all. I’m surprised Dave didn’t immediately see straight through him. It’s utter nonsense that he thinks it’s too much money for his kids to handle - he simply wants the money to set up his cost life with this new woman.
The poor deceased Mum was onto him. Thank God she left her half of the house to get kids before she died.
@@LOUBAT1 The Ramsey network usually gives widows the benefit of the doubt. He has no out legally its a morals ethics question. For all we know they guy might be right his kids cant handle it but they are adults, they get to make their own mistakes.
He’s leaving his 18 year old daughter in Ohio to move to Atlanta with a new wife 18 months after her mother’s death? That alone is a dick move. Then to ask for her to sign away a nest egg her wise mother protected for her so she can get by on her own? Those poor kids… that mom was so smart to get him to sign that for them! Good job looking out for your kids Mama!
His wife made sure the kids didn’t get disinherited when he got married again and his priorities changed, which is exactly what’s happening. They should be bound and determined to get the money. They’re too young - well, it’s not perfect. If they act unwisely with the money, it’s still better than getting nothing when he dies.They can each get into a house.
Inheritance is not a right.
@@fauxbro1983 It was their mother’s right to make sure they received one.
@@fauxbro1983 it is legally here. The dead wife made sure of it, for good reason, he's a selfish man and she probably saw it.
@@fauxbro1983 It is not a right. It is a choice and mom chose to give her half of the house to her children and not her husband's new wife.
Big time. His Dallas hottie is messing up his mind. Respect and move on with the plan that their Mom wanted.
This man is a bad guy. He’s got a new piece and he’s trying to live a better life now that the first wife is dead. The house is worth sooo much and if he remarrys (like he wants) he doesn’t need to sell it. That’s ridiculous.
He’s obliterating the life he and his wife built. The kids’ family, home, and foundation will be gone. It’s heartbreaking. He doesn’t care about his wife, their children, and holding the family and the home together. He just wants to go on to a new life for himself in greener pastures.
Exactly.. he said he wants to use their portion as a down payment on a house in Atlanta. I think Dave may have missed that comment since he didn't challenge him on his motives
He may have their interest at heart but they won't see it
@@georgewagner7787 he doesn’t, he is totally wanting to keep the money for his new life. He said as much when he talked about wanting the equity for a new house,
Exactly why is he in such a rush to sell? I agree 18 and 21 is very young to manage 200k especially while managing the emotional strain of losing a parent and then potentially your family home cause your dad got a “new piece”. If he’s truly concerned about protecting his kids inheritance then don’t sell at this time.
Dude had better be careful. Those kids can also fight back and make it impossible to sell the house. If they are on the title they can also move in/stay there as long as they want.
The problem is when he moves the money to a new house and gets a new wife those kids aren't getting that money anymore. This guy is a massive tool.
yeah idk why dave is thinking the kids will get 100% of everything even though the dude is getting remarried and she will likely get a large portion, or if he doesnt get a proper prenup she could divorce and take half. the kids mother was wise to get half of her lifes work transferred to the kids.
Seems like it wasn't an issue until he decided to get remarried. New wife seeing a bigger home and money to spend.
Exactly I wish Dave would've called him out on this. His being disingenuous
absolutely
@@mkwyche I think Dave did call him out, subtly, when he told him to get a prenup. Notice how the guy didn't exactly agree to that idea. As soon as he said he was getting remarried, it was obvious to Dave and everyone else what was really going on here.
The kids also don't trust the situation with a new wife lined up! Good for them.
I’M questioning the motive behind him wanting to do this. $800k and 50% goes to the children right after the sell of the home. Why do you have to sell the home now if you’re concerned about them not handling the money well? Does it have anything to do with you getting married and moving away with your new wife, a year and a half after your wife(their mom) died from cancer? OF COURSE IT DOES. You don’t even want to do what Dave suggested because you know you have ill intentions towards this entire situation. Give them their portion and call it a day. Realistically it was their mom, deeding them her portion of y’all’s current net worth.
Poor guy only gets 400k. Must be rough.
I couldn’t imagine re-marrying a year and a half after my wife dies of cancer. Not only that, but abandoning my kids at 18 and 21 years old, who already lost their mother and moving thousands of miles away to leave them completely abandoned. He’s already shown that he by no means has his kids best interest in mind and is in no way doing it for them. If he wanted to do ANYTHING for them, it would have been to help them grieve and stand by them to ensure they receive the proper guidance they need in life. Not move away with a new wife and cut them out of the money his wife ensured they would receive. She 100% knew he would run off with someone, abandon the kids and take everything the second she was gone.
Unfortunately, the kids not giving the money back will only make the dad feel resentful and probably wouldn’t want to have much to do with them anyway. Sad all the way around this one.
@@ronica2623 It would simply confirm he is an unscrupulous, greedy person with no regard for blood relationships.
Well I’m sure the new incoming wife would love to get 1/2 of their 800k house if things end up not working out. The caller sounds really lost and has forgotten his priorities (his kids). He doesn’t want to be alone and is going to move across the country and wants all 800k for life with the new wife, at a minimum a pre-nup is in order. How much you want to bet the wife to be may not be so eager about a marriage if he’s not putting all his money into it no questions asked. What is she bringing to the table? Why can’t she put some money into a new house? Sounds like she is pressuring him to get all the money for them. The 1st wife was one smart cookie! If he was really worried about what he said then why not set up trusts for the kids with the money they would for instance pay out when they were 25 or something. He’s not mentioning them getting the money at all just keep it all and disregard the mom/wife’s wishes, she really was a warrior, fighting for her kids!
😂😂 this is sooooo new wife speaking… I can almost hear her voice, ever so sweetly, protecting his children from the ‘burden’ of having this money… also, long distance relationship ? 🤦♀️
The kid's mother is rolling in her grave watching their father lining up to give it all away to another woman with her kid getting nothing. I'm glad she was wise enough on her deathbed to protect her kids before her passing.
What a piece of work. Would've been much better to call and ask "My adult children are getting this money as their mother's dying wish. How do I guide them to use it well so it's a blessing and not a curse?"
I agree. This man gave a reason to make Dave side with him about going back on his promise.
Yes when my sister in law died we saved all our nephew’s social security disability and probate so about $25-30k for him and didn’t spend it for his expenses under guardianship. It was odd giving that to a 19 year old and we did our best to show him how to be responsible with money. But my philosophy is he’ll either be wise, or dumb, or a combo and learn important lessons from that experience. It’s not up to us anymore - let baby bird fly or fall on their own at that point!
If I’m one of the kids, I’d never sign. There are serious red flags with the new long distance wifey-to-be. She certainly has influence power over their father, and she’s intruding on their family legacy. Weather she realizes that or not.
The blame is on him, not the new gf. We don't know if she had any influence. He say's he thinks they're too young to handle it well.
@@colleenduffy1139 lets be real here, sure there is a possibility that the new wife has nothing to do with it, but the odds are way higher that the new wife would prefer to have an extra 400k to begin their new life with and she is encouraging him to try and get it back. this is a tale as old as time, a guy gets divorced or remarried after a death and the new wife bleeds him dry and the kids get nothing. the pervious wife knew there was a chance of this and she was wise to get him to transfer her half of their networth over to the kids.
@@colleenduffy1139 Agreed and people are questioning why he thinks they are too young. ie he said straight up that HE WANTED THAT MONEY TO PUT INTO A NEW HOUSE WITH HIS WIFE. A women he is marrying only 1 1/2 after buying his wide AND dating via aa long distance relationship. So ya - no one is blaming the new wife but people are seeing red flags.
His new wife made sure he quickly sells the house because anything they buy with that money while married will be hers also, and not the kids'. Definitely not stupid like this guy.
@@colleenduffy1139 the irony of him believing he's going to handle the money better than the kids! The future ex-wife is fleecing him already 😂
Mum knew she was married to a scumbag and took appropriate measures to protect their kids.
Did this guy really just call in asking if he was morally right to take his dead wife's portion of the house, that he promised to give to his children, and instead spend it on a new house for his new wife?? Sounds to me like the mom knew what she was doing...Putting the money into a new house for him and his new wife is NOT protecting them. That's ensuring it goes to her when he dies.
A year and a half after your admittedly great wife died of a horrible disease is madness as well he is a bad person looking for encouragement to do wrong and Gordon actually supported him
If he was legit concerned about the possibility of his kids blowing through the money, he would have been teaching them all along how to manage money.
💯 best comment
If he was truly concerned about his kids blowing through the money he would sit them down with a reputable financial advisor and talk through the options of what to do with a large lump sum of money at a young age.
Why isnt Dave suggesting putting kids portion in a trust that manages the kids money - they get it but it’s paid out in increments from the trust. I think the mom knew there was issues with the husband. He also doesn’t mention other assets. Did she have life insurance? A previous inheritence? I’ve seen many adult children jilted financially in similar circumstances. And also note the kids do not currently live near their Dad . They are 18
And 21. That tells something about the relationship here.
He was about to spill the beans by saying he wanted to take the equity of that house to buy himself another house before Dave interrupted him 🤭 he knows he is immoral that’s why he wants validation from Dave. As a man and father I would never do that to my own kids. 💩 I know exactly the kind of parent he was. I really do hope the kids can get their mothers equity and invested well. And I hope he has the life he deserves.
It’s pretty clear that he’s heading towards a distant relationship (emotional and literal - especially since he’s moving so far away) with his children as he moves forward with his 50% equity to fund the purchase of a house with his new wife. There might not be any inheritance coming towards his children upon his death, as his wife will inherit it all if she survives him and he’s not specifically named his children in a will.
@@probablynot1368wanna bet these are his Step children and uh um um he forgot to mention that?😮
I hope his new wife thinks her loving is so great (he catches her letting another sample the goods. ) that everyone should have some!
Dave heard him say, because the man spelled it out - he would move the proceeds into another home. Listen again.
Bless his heart. I knew a guy that milked tons of sympathy cause his beloved long term wife died, 6 month later he was ready to remarry and the new gal had the same name of the old one! A year waiting might have kept his kids iin his life, nope.
He's remarrying so soon to me & doesn't seem at all sad at the loss of his wife....he's moved on. That must really hurt the kids..they're still young. It doesn't sound like he's been concentrating on his hurting children, but chasing a new woman & wants all of the money for wife #2❤❤❤
His wife wanted to do this for their children. She wanted to ensure her children received her half of the estate. It's a done deal. I hope the kids honor their mother's memory and follow the Ramsey plan.
It is half of the house, not half of the estate. It was a terrible idea
>Sorry kids, you don't get any of your mother's inheritance and I'm spending it on my new wife that I married a year and a half after your mother's passing.
Standup guy right there.
Ugh 🤮
Right?????? Lol😂😂😂😂
Yep
EXACTLY!!!