Triple test: Porsche 917, Ferrari 512S and Lola T70
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2018
- Porsche 917, Ferrari 512, Lola T70 - perhaps as great a concentration of sports car heritage as you could find in a single pit garage. And Motor Sport was at Donington Park to drive them. Your chauffeur? Dario Franchitti
For the October 2018 issue of Motor Sport magazine, multiple Indy 500 winner Franchitti tests three sports cars from the 1960s and '70s, heroes to racing fans and made yet more famous by the Steve McQueen film Le Mans.
To buy the issue, visit shop.motorsportmagazine.com. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Remember something. Almost everyone who watches these videos thinks that the cars are their own music. We don't need accompaniment here, let the cars do the singing.
What an egomaniac you must be, to assume that you speak for "almost everyone who watches these videos."
@@asknotwhatucan9951 but, he's right. Less music, more motor. Always.
Let those pipes sing
PLEASE!
100% agree. I prefer the sound of the cars over royalty free music....or any music for that matter.
I love how you get three legends, Dario Franchitti, and then 99% of the video is him sat in the car talking. The world is supremely short of HD footage of these classics, if he's on the track, show us him on the track. GoPro in the cockpit, no background music, millions of views.
theres plenty of footage, id rather know how they feel and behave, rather than just speculate or wonder. i only have my childhood scalextric car to judge the behaviour of the porky and Lola by, and not even that for the Ferrari.
Though my toy Lola was of that exact car, so is that enough? in your opinion?
Don't be negative. It's a great history piece. Not meant to show Dario's driving
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I was hanging on his every word, but yeah , another 20 minutes of track footage would not have gone amiss..
Coming from a old man's perspective. There will NEVER be the excitement in the racing world as it once was in the 60's & 70's. That was a magical time in Motorsports. All aspects from stock cars, group B rally, F1, Can-Am and on and on, it was just mind boggling awesomeness!!!
Lets not forget Trans Am racing. I attended a 1969 Trans Am race at Bryar Motorsports Park in N.H It was the most thrilling event of my entire life.
For me it was the early 1980s. There are so many great stories from those days and so many of the cars still survive. I guess it will always be a choice between those two eras though.
I completely agree!
Agreed whole heartedly
@@thethirdman225 Agreed, as a reference point I've tried explaining, to those who were too young to live through the 80's, about Group B Lancia S4 cars that could put in respectable F1 lap times for qualifying.
The cars make their own soundtrack...
Music. To the producer, it is professional. To every viewer, it is intrusive.
Nailed it ! every motorsport vid these days is ruined by music when we, the people who watch this stuff, want to hear engines, do you get this producers ???
I'm a music producer and would never put music, especially crappy music, on a video that deserves to be heard naturally.. like this one. Too bad. I pass on this video.
Strat Cat
Damn did you really have the chance to be the music producer for this video??
Ftu hub
All 3 are works of art.
Fabulous but please no music!!!!
The 917 is the definition of a racecar, 3 amazing cars!
Ferdinand Piech took a page from the NASCAR teams, finding a way to get around the rules and create a world beater with the 917s! It was a gamble, which paid off, essentially making Porsche the sports car dominant at LeMans for decades to come. With it they finally won it outright. Great car.
1500 horseporschepowers - legend
Just love the curves and lines on the 917K. And the fact that it is such a scary machine really makes it something special I think
If this one is scary, I can't even imagine how the full power 917/30 was, with 1500hp 🤣 I can't believe all 6 chassis are still with us.
Can we have a "no-music" version? Otherwise great!
Dis.
Just stfu for 2 minutes and let us here the cars.
MotoGP. dot com and loads of others stuff up reports with background noise garbage which you can't mute. DJs should stick to clubs.
Agree!
yes please
Agree 100%. How can you make a video about probably some of the best sounding racing cars ever and then turn up the music as soon as we see them being driven?! Come on Motorsport!
Fabulous video. It makes me think of an article from the late 70's that I believe was written by Sam Posey who drove the Ferrari to a 2nd place finish in the 1970 LeMans. He got to drive the 917 almost a decade later. He wrote about how he always loved to be able to tell people that he drove the Ferrari at 235 MPH down the Mulsanne straight and how he hated having to tell them then that the Porsche passed him at 245 MPH. He remembered how the Ferrari felt incredibly stable at that speed and how later he was shocked in driving the 917 how unstable it was and how that explained why the Porsche driver waved going by but always had a white knuckle grip on the wheel with his other hand. Those drivers back then did such unbelievable things.
I watched ever great driver in every great car at Riverside raceway, and no one went faster than Steve MC queen, in a 908 Porsche..up the esses, turn one thru 6. I went to the first race in 1957, and the last one, and even drove the circuit in a formula ford car race car.
The Lola T 70 was an awesome car. I saw it raced at Watkins Glen, Briar Loudon, and Limerock in the mid 60s and it was truly ahead of its time.
Love the 'open' rear-ends of the Ferrari and Porsche. You get to see the gigantic rear-tyres in all their majesty.
There’s nothing like a 917 flat 12 sound. All 3 are masterpieces
Wouldn’t be a TH-cam vid celebrating the most incredible sounding, never to be replaced, engines without music playing at every opportunity. It blows my mind.
I cannot put into words how much I love the Ferrari models from the 60's.
To the editors:
If you really GOTTA have the music tracks in the videos, how about meeting the viewer half way and just cut the track when the cars engines are running?
I mean you've got to be aware that the audience here really loves cars and that you don't need to overly produce the videos with "the formula" of when and where to add sound track and fade up the volume to "keep the viewer engaged" or what-ever they teach ya'll in film school.
With that said.........excellent video, very well done!
needs more stable shots of them just driving tbh
Perfect comment! Absolutely perfect
Hear! Hear! (meaning I agree with that comment and don't want to hear muzak while the engine is running. No muzak while Franchitti is speaking would also be nice).
T70.. still my all-time favourite racing car even after 50 years. I remember the likes of Redman, Hawkins and Bonnier hammering them around Oulton Park in the 60s. A sight and sound never to be forgotten.
It was truely magical. I remember the Ferraris. As a young teen anger, that flat 12 engine gave me goose bumps. It sent shivers through your spine and needles through your ears. (They're still shattered to this day.) The Cosworth engines with that ultra low frequencies were gorgeous. Awesome time as a kid. Awesome.
I watched all three run at Hockenheim in 71. The star had passed to the 917. It was efficient, incredibly fast and converted fuel to efficient forward motion. The 512 seemed to convert fuel to desperate noise and the T70 was a gentleman's car, not able to run up front anymore.
It was fantastic. I had the pit next to Ferrari and watched the mechanics fill the fuel tanks with a huge funnel and cans of gasoline. What safety? Only a couple of years later I had gasoline spilled on me during a bit stop-a lot of gasoline, soaking me, and I decided to find something safer to do.
Wow, what an excellent tour of three classic machines! Thank you, Dario!
I got chills during the T70 section. It's amazing that Broadley offer an exact replica for less than the current road offerings of the big boys, and it's FIA approved to race in its class.... If I had £250,000....I wouldn't have it for long :P
Ah, the current T70 isn't a replica. It is a continuation.
@@cdjhyoung the one in the video is an original T70 mk3b
I will never forget hearing a T70 going down the Spa finish line and up the Radillion on a random trackday in the middle of May almost three years ago. I need to hear that again.
Same, but in 1997.
first video i have seen from this channel & i absolutely love it. love the passion and detailed description of these machines.
Drooled endlessly over these when I was a kid. Thanks for the great video.
I had a picture of that David piper T70 above my bed as a kid . Then as a grown up got to work on it - upholstering the seats and fire wall with the diamond stitching . That was an enjoyable job and in real life the cars even more beautiful than on film .
Just 3 iconic race cars from the days of my youth. Great to hear a driver like Dario extolling the virtues and vices of these monsters. Excellent production!
Love this! Thank you so much for this, all who were involved.
This was beautiful to watch, and listen to. A superb effort. I love these pieces. Great machines.
Great job Franchitti, more videos like that from you please.
It’s always great to hear a review from a true drivers perspective. The information he conveyed about these cars I feel like I never would have known otherwise if it was just your average automotive journalist. Great video. More please! New subscriber.
Brilliant explanations from Dario Franchitti. Thanks you so much!
Three of my all time favourites. Thanks Dario.
Thanks for the video,
Beautiful images and brilliant commentary and insights from someone who really knows what he's talking about.
I can't wait to read more when the magazine arrives.
P.s - any chance Motorsport will get Dario to write a monthly column like he used to for EVO? The mans passion for cars, history and racing deserves to be shared.
Great video. First time viewer of the channel, and now a new subscriber. Keep up the great works guys!
It sure would be nice to hear the cars instead of the droning techno shit in the background. There's lots of talk about the great vintage sounds but all I hear is the hipster cocktail lounge crutch the 20-something film makers slather on everything they make like cheap cologne for a used car salesman.
Amen
Fantastic racecars! Thanks for sharing, and greets from the Netherlands!
I really dig this video, from the cars to the photography to the music. Yes, even the music, it was fitting.
Dario Franchitti has the right personality to explain the details of each beautiful car and the feelings
garnered from driving each one.
Fantastic - would love to see Franchitti do something similar with three Can Am cars like the McLaren M8F , Shadow Mk 3 and Porsche 917/10
and Chaparral.
And the infamous 917-30
I’m sure even he would still shit his pants driving an M8F
TheMightyAntar for chrissakes man we’re trying to get him back into the car, not scare the ghost out of him
Bullshit. He's driven 1,000 hp cars before.@@mrsiravarice
I'm jealous..... Great little documentary on 3 fabulous cars. Nice job Dario!
Excellent review of excellent cars...Thank You Dario !
Wonderful video! Article was great but this is even better. Franchitti clearly loves and respects these cars.
When I was a little boy I had these three cars --all Matchbox cars in die-cast metal, and on the kitchen counter these three were racing each other to see who was fastest. The names did not matter then, but the shapes were similar. And the pit stops were critical, dangerously close to the kitchen sink =)
Oh My God, I just came a gallon and I had the snip so shouldn't be possible. Thanks for uploading this.
Glorious days of Motorsport!
Great! Dario - you're a natural. More (longer) reviews please!
Absolutely stunning machines !!!
Dario is so eloquent and sums up this experience very concisely - superb.. Porsche please!
Fantastic! That is exactly why I read Motor Sport Magazine!
It was an incredible, exciting time in motorsports history!
Such an intimate perspective on top level machinery, not a frivolous word out of him. You sense his connection to performance and practicality. Rare.
No music... and 2 more hours of these fine cars please!
Excuse me, that would be real music!
I have no problem with the music. I do agree that the video needs to be longer. Much longer.
But there's already incredible music made by these amazing automobiles.
@@davidbirch9984If there is music, its should be the same age as the cars.
Hmm, to me, the music background is just fine - it has, IMO, a nice documentary feel. But those sports cars!... Terrific. Simply OUTSTANDING. I really did enjoy the looks, the sounds, the nostalgia and of course, the power. Le Mans, the 1971 movie starring Steve McQueen is my favorite racing film. My favorite car, Lola T70. My nostalgic winner. Thanks for the video MS.
i'm pleased and surprised at the several 'secret' admirers of lola t70's in the comment. nostalgic, and artistic-emotional winner. i hadn't known so many felt the same as i, and you.
@@carlcushmanhybels8159
For sure, for sure. I even had a '71 Chevelle Malibu (sadly an unfinished restoration project) that I named 'LOLA'. (^_^)
Best regards.
Thanks for bringing back cherished childhood ( adolescent actually) memories. Always wished the T70 would do better..Such a gorgeous car... and the noise......
me too, i've always loved the t70's looks and style and sound. in historic racing, t70's are doing better than they did in their original time. at least lola t70's won 1 year of can-am, '66 or '67 i understand. love the looks and sound of the 917 too; though i recognize their dangerousness . like feet ahead of the front axle. t70 has been a sentimental favorite. revealing that dario franchitti liked driving it/ felt more comfortable in it than the other two.
amazing video! beautiful cars
Pedro Rodriguez 1000km Brands Hatch 1st time i ever saw a 917 race been in love with them ever since.
Can-Am was a insane era for racing, Lola T70 💚
You'd think a magazine like Motorsport would understand not to put background filler music over the top of the engines of some of the best racing cars in the world.
But you'd be wrong...
I've ALWAYS LOVED the Lola's. The 512 ALWAYS looked GREAT . . .
Fantastic reportage!
Siempre es un placer ver y oir a estas máquinas,que grandes momentos nos regalaron 😁
Dario! Dario! Dario! (And those amazing machines, of course!) 🔥🔥🔥
My three favorite cars. Great Video
Absolutely iconic cars. The last designs that were purely emotional.
LOLA! She was a show girl! Love them all but the Lola did it for me at Silverstone Classic.
I mean that Lola in the green is breathtaking. DF is beyond lucky to experience these three.
Absolutely stunning beautiful. I particularly love the Porsche and Lola.
Very cool! but some fool put music all over the car sounds....
beautiful report, I loved it. I follow you from today greeting s cordial and congratulations.
Saw the 917 and 512S at the BOAC 1000km race Brands Hatch, this was the first race I ever saw!
Such sounds, such driver skills such memories.
Nice production and no disrespect meant, but to think that these cars were all geared up with cameras and to see so little track/in car action was disappointing. 90% static and 10% on track, without the beautiful noise these cars would have made is a crime. Once in a lifetime opportunity lost.
well put sir.they make it seem almost like advertisement or something
Absolutely. Dario is a nice guy but we know him as a race car driver, not a broadcaster.
Music or not, having one of the great voices and great drivers tell us about these historic cars did it for me.
Dario is an awesome person I met him in a bar in 1997 at Indy cars on the gold coast Australia signed my hat and other things he was very accomodating have always followed him since think he is great all the best
That seems like a magical moment to cherish
Just awesome.... love these 3 cars, I'm torn between the Lola and Porsche but the 512 is great as well,. would love to see these in real race action.
Three beautiful awesome cars from a time when rules didn’t limit creativity.
Nicely done. I was so focused on the cars I didn't notice the music.
Drool!
I simply love that Porsche!
Visually still fantastic designs, timeless! I dont know if I could choose one, if I have to..
Dario....I live through you my man...can always feel your passion ,respect and genuine enthusiasm. Awesome
A great piece, love all aspects of it. To the requests to omit music, it is a "necessary", though I'd love to hear an alternate version owith exhaust notes
Imagine how fast these things would be with today’s tire technology and engine developments. They were surprisingly slippery for that era but had low downforce. Drivers had balls in those days. A young professional driver today would wonder what the third pedal and the shifter knob is used for.
Horace Debacle you’re right, they would. It’s just that some of today’s F1 drivers are manufactured just like the cars they drive. Without ever turning a wheel, they are told by their engineers what their lap times should be to within less than 5% error. They have access to the telemetry from all the other cars (as far as lap times go) and know where on the track they are faster/slower. They even know where the other drivers are braking and the precise location exiting a corner where the drivers apply full throttle. The tire engineers have data on the level of adhesion the different tracks provide , and a lot of the guess work that’s left for the drivers is sorted on a simulator. Of course if drivers from the 60’s had access to all this they would have used it, that’s the point I am trying to make. Take any one of today’s drivers and stick him or her in a Maclaren can-am car with the crappy brakes, tires, aerodynamics and safety they had in those days and strip them of the resources I mentioned above, you can’t possibly expect them to be as fast as a Denny Hulme? And it’s not just about ability or talent either. It’s about how oblivious they were to their own safety and still commit themselves 100% to their lap/race. Here in Canada we have the perfect example: Lance Stroll. His dad wanted him to be a race driver so he bought a race track (circuit Mont-Tremblant) and had a kart track built on the property. Then he hired the best instructors (from the U.K.) to train his son to help him hone his skills. When Lance was on his way to formula one, his dad bought him
an F1 car from a few years before with all the resources available to him and paid for some track time at tracks all over the world to help Lance transition to F1. This surely helped Lance become a (ahem, nudge, wink) “world class” driver. Now compare that to Gilles Villeneuve. Enough said.
I can remember them ALL. The Lola was the one that started my interest in Can Am and Le Man's . . .
from age 10 to 16 I would go with my dad to Sebring Daytona and Road Atlanta every year. Saw Ickx, Andretti etc. The 512 was my fav.
I prefer the long tail 512, but my favorite Ferrari might be the 312p. The T70 is my favorite of the 3 in the video (and definitely the one I'd buy), but my favorite from that era (not shown) is the Ford F3l (which is another one Piper owned, because of course he did).
the Ford F3L/P68 built by Alan Mann was a beautiful car but it was not competitive at all.
I am so lucky to have seen these cars race for real in the 70’s nothing like it today.
Awesome cars from 1970. They are all in my slotcar collection from Le Mans 1970!
Iv always been drawn to the look & sound of these fire breathing monsters, The 917 & the Ferraris.
Just remember the GT40 was developed from the Lola T70 so its lasting impact is perhaps even more than the other 2 cars!
What a video! Amazing cars!!!
Well made, great feedback from Dario... Just dump the music, much more pleasant to listen talks.
Oh that Porsche 917.....droooooollllzzzz
“Remove Before Flight”. Ha! Live that! Thanks for video
Respect to Bell, Ickx, Regazzoni and all the others.
Well for me it was Pedro Rodriguez who was the outstanding 917K racer.. He must have literally had grande cojones.
@@labarone8910 You're absolutely right.
Pedro my all time favourite racing driver.
Unfortunately, Pedro died on Norisring track driving a ...Ferrari 512S !
Don't forget another great 917 driver : Joseph Siffert. And Vic Elford, Gijs Van Lennep, Gerard Larrousse, Leo Kinnunen ...
Didn't Jo Siffert lose his leg(s) in a collision while filming Steve McQueen's "Le Mans"?
Great Video!
Tnanks a Lot...
Wow, the three most beautiful sportscars of all times....
Ferrari P4, Jaguar D Type etc.
*Sports prototypes
I remember growing up, reading about and watching these cars (as well as the Can-Am, F1 and Indy cars) racing; and wanting to grow up fast so I could maybe some day race them. We had no idea of the danger, as none of the media showed us how many died brutally in crashes back then. Not even all in races; just in TESTING! Cars would flip, even have the chassis crack apart at speed. And the fires! Holy crap. They never showed the deaths on TV, and often, didn't even mention them at all. When I got older, I wondered why anyone would voluntarily strap themselves into a tube frame car, surrounded by gasoline in metal tanks, knowing that they'd burn alive in a crash.
This one is staying in the file. And Dario, you lucky dog.
Great stuff. The music is unnecessary, Dario and the cars are the main focus. ;)
This video should have millions of views