Every Deleted Metro Station
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- Listing every Station that was deleted from the Washington Metrorail system. Follow along if you enjoy public transit or history -- Any deleted stations that you wish were built? Or any actual stations that you think should have been deleted during the planning process? Share your thoughts in the comments below
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Wolf Trap was supposed to be a station. It even has its own station code but they skip the number because it was never built.
Wolf Trap / Vienna ?
@@295g295 Yeah. I’m pretty sure it could be built if they wanted to do it but I don’t think that’ll happen for a long time.
God would that have been nice.
I know!
Now this is some content designed specifically for me
This video has ridiculously good quality research. Thank you for pouring your time and effort into this masterpiece - it taught me so much.
16:16 hey, well at least the residents aren't subjected to frequent, convenient, rapid transit service within walking distance
If Oklahoma Avenue station was built, it's likely that the DC Streetcar nearby would see an increase in ridership.
I really wish there was an Oklahoma Avenue Station - 100 percent agree would boost DC Streetcar plus all the development making its way down Benning Road.
This content is like a candy store for transit enthusiasts. Happy to subscribe and learn.
Oh this is incredibly fascinating to me. Very thorough video!
Sadly ironic that Oklahoma Ave ended up still having the negatives of the train tracks making noise and blocking their view, but didn’t even get a station to have any of the positives.
As someone who grew up in the Carver/Langston neighborhood near Oklahoma Ave, this was incredibly shortsighted by the residents. Forced people to have to use Metrobus to get downtown. Maybe if DC gets control of the RFK site to develop it, they might reconsider a station there.
I really wish there was an Oklahoma Avenue Station - would boost DC Streetcar plus all the development making its way down Benning Road.
Amazing Video! One of the best vids about WMATA's history I've seen. Loved your diagrams showing the rerouting of the stations overlayed on a scale map while keeping the iconic Metro map stylization. Subbed!
a transituber using my local doors closing announcement as a name? oh hell yeah
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Judiciary Square!!!!
Love that station.
I live across the street from the old proposed Logan circle green line station. It would be pretty nice if that got built, but it would also probably be more like DuPont circle if it did.
Dude, remember the Dupont Underground?🤨
Happymont circle lol but happy meaning the other word g y
Very good history of the DC Metro System. Great research and clearly presented.
I will note that provisions for an infill station west of the deleted Telegraph Road station was added when the segment west of Alexandra Yard to Van Dorn Street station was built. The location of the platform for that infill is across the CSX tracks west of South Quaker Lane and is clearly visible on Goggle Earth.
Fascinating -- do you think there is any realistic chance a J01 Station ever gets built? Or were these provisions simply included to appease local leaders in Alexandria?
@@StepBackDoorsClosing Based on the what is and has been developed in the area of the station, I think not. Bluestone Road off Eisenhower Avenue was graded in a manner to allow the construction of a bridge over the tracks to connect to the unnamed street that provides access to the City of Alexandra Fleet Services. There is very little area on the south side of the tracks at Bluestone Road for multi modal access to an entrance that would likely be on the west end of the station. I don't see the likelihood of the City of Alexandria moving their Fleet Services operation elsewhere and transferring title of the properties to WMATA for a station entrance and a developer to develop the rest.
On the matter of the deleted junction west of Van Dorn Street, There were no provision built for a future junction, however the land need for the junction still belongs to WMATA.
@@SandBoxJohn This is incredibly fascinating stuff -- Appreciate you sharing some of your Metrorail expertise
It should be noted that J01 continues to exist as a future infill station in all WMATA asset management maps! The future J01 station is named Quaker Lane. The only other unbuilt infill station on the network included in asset management maps is Wolf Trap on the N line.
@@brycebundens6866 I am well aware of the fact that the ascending numbers in the train control segments numbering schema without stations are for future infill stations. C11 Potomac Yard, J01 Quaker Lane and N05 Wolf Trap.
There was no train control segment number for NOMA Gallaudet when the proposal to build an infill station there was made. WMATA dropped B35 in between B03 Union Station and B99 Brentwood Yard, B35 means B03 1/2.
Incredibly thorough. Great vid!
Thank You!
wOW what a detailed review. I had no Idea so much went into planning these Metro stations. I have lived in the Washington Areas since the 70's and remember watching as these stations were constructed. My area was the Green Line. I lived in College Park and remember all the constructions they had to do with Building the line and have displaced a lot o businesses. Looking back I can see it was for the public good. Cheers!
I love the DC Metro train’s automated PA sounds and beeps when doors open and close. Has a vibe I can just jive with more than NYC’s “Stand clear of the closing doors, please” in that deep male voice 😂
Excellent Research and Presentation! Thanks for sharing
you cooked with this fr, nice vid!
Great vid, appreciate the details and research that went into this!
What about Federal Area Rapid Transit?
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Thank goodness they moved Waterfront. Otherwise it basically would have almost touched the Navy Yard station but would have been nowhere near the actual waterfront.
I remember seeing the *Waterfront Station* area dug-up under construction Summer 1973, many years before the Yellow Line would begin to operate.
> 33:00
Excellent video.
Congress Heights Station would have been best at the other end of Alabama Ave. The station would have served both ends of Alabama Ave, Hillcrest and parts of Good Hope Rd. We also desperately need a stations that extends south of Maryland Oxon Hill, National Harbor, Camp Spring, Fort Washington, Accokeek, Clinton, Brandywine, and Charles County.
Great video brother I was wonder if you can do one on each bus fleet and garage or different models
I know more about the history of metrorail and not as much as I'd like about metrobus -- but maybe I can research up on it in the future!
@@StepBackDoorsClosing that’s great start I’m
More familiar with metro bus then metro rail
This is a great video!
They originally planned a statiom.serving Wolf Trap on the Silver Line phase I segment
Great job
What about the entire Columbia Pike subway line?
We still need it!
Columbia Pike branch was (unfortunately) never included in the Adopted Regional System -- fingers crossed that it gets added some day in the future
@believer5497
The line from Dulles could have been built into It's Pentagon place, rather than crowding the tunnel with the Orange and Blue trains.
Just south of Pentagon Metro are the beginnings of two tunnels that were constructed to branch off in the direction of Columbia Pike. You never know what the future holds.
7:00 did Metro even ever end up running 4-minute service to Franconia-Springfield?
I believe the lowest scheduled headways on BL were every 6 mins during rush hour (prior to Rush+ & Silver Line Service). Metro's early service projections were quite rosy -- in reality, it fell short by a combination of rail car shortages, increased operating costs, and underwhelming passenger totals. Still, the concern about having two separate terminals remains valid -- even under 6 min headways, if service were split between Franconia and Springfield, each would have trains every 12 mins.
Similar thoughts were considered during the Silver Line design process. Even while servicing the same number of stations at the current locations, it would have been cheaper to construct a "Y", with one spur serving Dulles, and the other serving Loudoun Gateway & Ashburn. However, the same problem would have occurred, where service frequencies would have been split in half for each individual destination, which was deemed to be more detrimental to ridership than the corresponding capital cost savings
@@StepBackDoorsClosing oh yeah I definitely agree consolidating the stations was the better move. I was just surprised to hear they were planning on that frequent service. That would be 30 tph assuming the Orange line also ran with 4 min headways. IIRC WMATA can only handle 26 tph rn.
@@StepBackDoorsClosing is that why there's one scheduled train per weekday with a Dulles terminus?
Anyone else annoyed by the Blue and Yellow lines in Virginia being flipped? Van Dorn and Franconia are the Blue line, Huntington and Eisenhower are the Yellow line. I just felt bothered by that.
Under the original system plans, the Yellow Line would have terminated at Franconia (or Springfield, before that branch was nixed) and the Blue Line would have gone to Huntington -- the routes were "temporarily" swapped due to a rail car shortage when the segment between national airport and Huntington opened in December 1983 (which were later made permanent). For the stations discussed in this video, I decided to use the original service patterns since that is how they were imagined when these stations were in the ARS (and when they were eventually deleted).
With the planning for service to National harbor, it pains me they built the hybrid alingment between branch ave & Rosecroft Raceway. Should've been one or the other not a silly hybrid alignment.
7:55 - Ironically, Springfield Mall is not near Springfield Metro Station.
That's a WALK
@@rstreet5537yup I did that walk EVERY work day from 2006-2008 when I worked at Springfield mall.
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love this
> 1:12 < I had always imagined that the plan was for a line from *Pentagon* to run on the median of Shirley Highway (I-95), rather than Columbia Pike as shown here.
100th Sub
amazing!
34:00 - National Naval Medical Center at Bethesda
9:51 -- *Shaw* - Is that a station on the Green Line?
It is , Shaw -Howard University.
Georgetown Metro 😆
Invest in a better microphone please
4:33
OMG! How could you make a stupid 35 minute video on WMATA without mentioning Wolftrap station and Leesburg station at Rt. 15 and the Dulles Greenway?!?!
Only discussed stations that once were included in the ARS but later were deleted -- figured the video was long enough already and I needed a clear boundary. Neither of those stations were ever added to the ARS. Wolf Trap was considered but the ridership projections were insufficient (and it received some pushback from nearby residents) -- some basic provisions were made for the possible addition down the line, but I find it incredibly unlikely that it ever gets built. The Leesburg station was never seriously considered -- the justification to build the Silver Line to Ashburn was shaky to begin with, certainly no chance that Leesburg would have been included as well. The closest this area got to receiving a station occurred in 2013, when WMATA studied 11 possible end-of-line expansions to evaluate which might be viable to construct -- one of which was a three-station extension of the Silver line (with stations along the Greenway at Belmont Ridge, Crosstail Blvd, and Route 15). Ultimately, this study concluded that this extension could not support the ridership to justify the construction cost.
Excellent video.