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Riding the COMPUTERIZED DC METRO SUBWAY TRAIN 1977, Washington computer underground system 1976 1978

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  • Computer History: Underground Trains: I rode the Washington DC Computerized Metro in 1977 and loved it It was a great experience, just like being transported into the future! For historical review and comment, we look back at how the system worked in its first several years of operation. British reporter Bernard Falk gives an inside look at the early system of the late 1970’s. His view focuses on how early computers are affecting our lives and jobs, back in the late 1970’s. A great deal has been improved and expanded since then. Significant upgrades in service and service area has been achieved by the DC Metro. If you have experience with riding on or working for the Metro, your comments are most welcome!
    For information on how it was physically constructed, see:
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    and
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    Restoration film excerpt courtesy of Speakeasy Archives
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    In memory of British reporter Bernard Falk (1943-1990)
    Background from WMATA web site:
    The Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (Metro) was created by an interstate compact in 1967 to plan, develop, build, finance, and operate a balanced regional transportation system in the national capital area.
    Metro began building its rail system in 1969, acquired four regional bus systems in 1973, and began operating the first phase of Metrorail in 1976.
    Today, Metrorail serves 98 stations and has 128 miles of track. Metrobus serves the nation's capital 24 hours a day, seven days a week with 1,500 buses. Metrorail and Metrobus serve a population of approximately 4 million within a 1,500-square mile jurisdiction. Metro began its paratransit service, MetroAccess, in 1994; it provides about 2.3 million trips per year.
    Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA)
    www.wmata.com/...

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  • @nasabear
    @nasabear 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    My High School science club took a tour of the Metro tunnels before it was opened. The guide was Cody Pfanstiehl, who is interviewed in this video. He was the perfect spokesperson, he clearly thought that the DC Metro was the greatest thing ever made by humans and his enthusiasm was infectious. I couldn't wait to ride it when it opened. I was disappointed when they had to stop using computer train control for a long time after an accident. The computers did a better job of smoothly braking the trains coming into the station than the human operators did.

    • @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Hi @nasabear, thank you very much for sharing your experience with the early Metro rail work. Getting to tour the tunnels before it was opened sounds like fantastic experience(!) It certainly was a work of tremendous effort and great design. Thanks so much for your feedback and historical perspective! ~ Victor, CHAP

    • @b43xoit
      @b43xoit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Braking, I hope. If they were broken, the expense to keep repairing them would have overwhelmed the budget.

    • @nasabear
      @nasabear 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@b43xoit Oops! Thanks for catching the typo.

  • @deeexxx8138
    @deeexxx8138 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I rode Metro from 1989 to 1995 and I think that was its peak. It has gone downhill certainly. Also, Mr. Falk's assertions about computers being one-time costs is hilarious in hindsight.

    • @am74343
      @am74343 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not necessarily... Eliminating human intervention on the front end makes perfect sense. However, back then, they hadn't calculated the exorbitant costs we nowadays have to factor into the back end of the computer systems, with programmers and repair technicians and dispatch operators. That cost alone nowadays offsets the savings on the "semi-autonomous self-driving train" model.

  • @b43xoit
    @b43xoit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    In 2024, every train has to have a human operator.

  • @So-CA_NV_AZ82
    @So-CA_NV_AZ82 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    So cool to see, great video

    • @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi @So-CalNevAri82, thank you very much for the feedback, glad you enjoyed it! ~ Victor

  • @frankowalker4662
    @frankowalker4662 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Brilliant stuff.

  • @JaxBrubaker-po8ld
    @JaxBrubaker-po8ld 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Like the horn on the 1000 Series! But got placed in the middle after the June 2009 crash! Then retired in 2017.

  • @29downtheline
    @29downtheline 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! Love the historic footage and reporting! The DC Metro has begun making efforts to gradually bring back automation and computer control to the rail system! As of recent, doors on Red Line trains are now automatic (and much faster), with efforts being made to bring this back to the other lines of the network as well. Raising operating speeds back up to what the system was designed for (up to 75 mph) and bringing back automatic train operation are also supposed to occur in the future. I’m very much looking forward to decreased trip times and smoother rides!

    • @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your great feedback! Glad you enjoyed the historical video footage. Wow, 75 MPH! That would be quite a ride. Hope to get back to DC and check out the new upgrades in the future. ~ Thanks! ~ VK, CHAP

  • @thesteelrodent1796
    @thesteelrodent1796 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Seems these guys were a bit misguided about what computerizing the train system meant. The only people they've cut out of the system are the ticket sellers, and given the US wages then and now, that means they only made the train system a tiny fraction cheaper. Even with fully automated driverless trains, like we have in a lot of cities around the globe now, you still need a lot of people to maintain the trains and the system that runs them, but the computers have indeed become better than people at driving the trains

  • @am74343
    @am74343 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I do vaguely remember riding on the D.C. Metro when I was a kid in the late 1980s, and I can recall being amazed that the trains had "UPC" barcodes on them, (or at least what appeared to be barcodes). I surmise it was an early method of keeping track of which train was where, presumably read by a laser scanning system similar to a grocery store cash register. I haven't ridden on it in years, but can someone out there in TH-cam Land corroborate my memory on this?

    • @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi @am74343, the bar code tracking (or something similar) makes sense. There must have been a quick way to identify and record each rail car for maintenance purposes and inventory. Good question. Hopefully, someone viewing has some additional insight into this question.. Thanks!

    • @stevem.1853
      @stevem.1853 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I recall correctly, "barcodes" were originally designed for railroads to track their rolling stock. I'm pretty sure that there are some TH-cam videos about them. Metro did use the barcodes, but they eventually switched over to using something like smart tags (like ez-pass) instead.

  • @zacharythomason7359
    @zacharythomason7359 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Video

  • @ms_enj
    @ms_enj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great video, but in the credits at the end, you incorrectly list Bernard Falk's birth and death years as 1882-1960. He couldn't have died in 1960 as that was 16 years before this was filmed. 😊
    He was actually born in 1943 and passed away in 1990.

    • @jbponzi1
      @jbponzi1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is a good trick of the paranormal.

    • @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi @ms_enj, Thank you for that correction. It should have read "In memory of British reporter Bernard Falk (1943-1990)"

    • @stuartajc8141
      @stuartajc8141 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for that correction. I can remember Bernard Falk being on BBC TV, but had he died in 1960 I wouldn't.

  • @SharlenesJourney
    @SharlenesJourney 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    4:36 what station is that near ?? I’m assuming Brookland CAU

  • @rogeratygc7895
    @rogeratygc7895 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In 1967 there was an automatic, unmanned, train carrying passengers around Expo 67 in Montreal. Not exactly a huge system, but impressive for its day. I rode it, as I did the hovercraft service on the St. Lawrence. A taste of a future that didn't take.

    • @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi @rogeratygc7895, sounds very cool. The hovercraft was supposed to be the vehicle of the future... Just don't see them today.
      The Montreal Expo 67 train sounds fascinating. Perhaps we can find some video of that early "modern" transport. Thanks for the tip! ~ Victor, CHAP

    • @rogeratygc7895
      @rogeratygc7895 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject Looking on wikipedia you will find that there were in fact two: see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expo_Express and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minirail
      As I was there for two weeks or so, I rode both; the first a more or less conventional train apart from the automation, the second a monorail, which actually passed through the US pavilion which was a huge geodesic dome.
      In addition, Montreal built a metro system which connected the city proper to the islands on which Expo 67 was built. As an Applied Physics student from the UK I had a fantastic time. Good luck finding material for a video - I will be most interested in seeing what you can find.
      Oh, and one more thought - if you have ever heard the noise created by a hovercraft, you will understand why they are uncommon!

    • @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi @rogeratygc7895, thanks very much for the historical information and the link. The control console for the Expo Express looks very modern and sleek. Hope to find come video on that some day. Yes, I rode a hovercraft once when I was a kid... my ears are still ringing! Thanks again! ~ VK

  • @stephanbruno7249
    @stephanbruno7249 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those look like Fallout computers.

  • @JaxBrubaker-po8ld
    @JaxBrubaker-po8ld หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This railcar got in the June 2009 crash’

  • @tonylaw196
    @tonylaw196 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    But most of the Japanese Railway still operate the train by manpower today.

  • @entity9742
    @entity9742 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello, i was wondering if you still had that old Sony 8-301w?
    If so would you be interested in selling it? I do have one but the knob and antenna is broken and i really need to try finding replacements and measuring the antenna

    • @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sorry, the Sony 8-301w went to another collector several years ago...wish I had kept it now.

    • @entity9742
      @entity9742 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject do you happen to know if that collector still has it by chance?

    • @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sorry, don't know. The best option may be to check eBay as they come up for sale now and again... good luck!

    • @entity9742
      @entity9742 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject thank you, but if you do happen to get in contact with them and they do still have it and are willing to sell it, dont hesitate to let me

  • @jilllacey61
    @jilllacey61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    those maps are misleading. 80% of that wasn't built in 1978. Only 6 stations at that time.

  • @50shadesofbeige88
    @50shadesofbeige88 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Lol well that was a very optimistic view of the DC Metro. Today, it's a money pit that is in a seemly constant state of partial disrepair. You can barely understand what the conductors say when the train stops, if they choose to speak at all.

    • @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sad to hear that. It was once a gem of the city.

    • @50shadesofbeige88
      @50shadesofbeige88 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject as with everything in DC, it's been suffocated with corruption and red tape. They are expanding it, though... we'll see what happens.

    • @washingtondc9290
      @washingtondc9290 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject DC Metro is one of the best in the country that has gotten better over the years

  • @Dr_Mario2007
    @Dr_Mario2007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Unfortunately, early computerized trains weren't without a problem; they did crash a few times before. Of course they got even better over time, both with active and passive protections added.

    • @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
      @ComputerHistoryArchivesProject  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi @Dr_Mario2007, yes, there were several serious accidents over the years. Hopefully, it has been greatly improved in the area of safety. -