Ah Jeez, I didn't mind the transition around 5:15 ! Do I listen to music so that I can be bored? No. I listen to be surprised! Of Course! I suppose different strokes for different folks! A lot of "producers" are trying to produce "product" and others are trying to produce ART. Different aims, for different audiences.
I love transitions like this, I have heard it in professional recordings and remixes so it definitely seems more like a personal preference not to like this. I think once a song sounds perfect or near perfect to you then that's better than striving for a perfect that was set by someone else, unless you have been contracted to make a very certain sound then you can make the song the way you feel.
There's producing for listeners vs. producing for producers. Just like there's playing guitar for listeners vs. playing guitar to impress other guitar nerds. The average person doesn't care about these subtleties.
Fully agree here, furthermore its a vital part of the process. Refining and evolving the basics is what gives you unique artistic character Gotta go through it to get to it
@@JayboTheHoodwhen people listen to music they have any ideas if it sound amateur or not. If it sound good and the feeling is here, people will just appreciate the music. We should more focus on how to make interesting music instead of « sound like a pro »
i think the fact that people actually pay a monthly subscription to get things like a hihat loop from splice is the most disappointing thing in the video. i'm ok with not every mixing decision being perfect when listening to music, but music just being a combination of samples that you could have even made yourself easily.. i just don't see the point. i mean it's bad enough that people take bass and lead sounds from those platforms and basically disregard the potential to bring their own style into the most important part of the song, but hihats aren't even hard to make. you could literally fart into a microphone, slap heavy wavefold distortion at it and put an envelope on the resulting sound and you'd have a proper hihat
Nothing wrong with using a hihat loop from splice if you know how to mix it properly and/or manipulate it into your own thing. The shit that really grinds my gears these days is peeps releasing full blown AI-gen tracks for cash monies $$$$.
Honestly using loop fodder for your percussion is a nice way to fatten it up. It's actually time consuming to build a real thick percussion part from scratch (depending on your genre is how thick you want it). Use a few loops and a few original parts why not.
@@Jimbo386000this yes. Or - reference a perc loop u like - and rebuild it with some variation / diff sounds - in ableton drumsynth fe or machine - thats pretty straight fwd.
@SanDfckt that works too. Usually what I do is I make a bunch of loops. And I reuse them, and a lot of times I'll chop them up or in some way resample them unless they're just perfectly what I'm looking for in a song. But I'll also use those along with loops from packs or splice.
@@Jimbo386000 yep. Its all about playing with the possibilities / and that learning never ends lol. I sometimes wonder if my workflow is too complicated tho xD
Awesome vid, thanks. The best part of the journey is that I can remember times when I'd make almost all these mistakes, now it's more like 3-4 that could be improved
For me the "secret ingredient" in abrupt changes is missing down beat ending. A drummer would never stop the groove at the eighth beat. They stop it on the first beat of the next part even if it is a chill part. Unfinished grooves just hang in the air for me. This might also mean you have edit your hi hat loop to get the right sound at this extra hit.
i gotta be honest. while some of your tips are definitely worth doing, some of them can be artistic preference. why do i need to put the vocals first? i may be loving my good M1 house piano with the M1 organ bass. and want ot focus on that. making the vocals a bit more in the background. i would say thats a super valid thing to do if you as an artist want to sound like that. i wouldnt say that makes you amateur
But then you have to do many other things as well. Maybe remove the lyrics, or have very simple and audible words. Move the voice to sides and put shit ton of reverb on them. Having two main actors fight for the same space is the amateur.
I think the question would be: what KIND of vocals are they? If it is a hook with words that would pull attention, it only makes sense to give it the attention it deserves. If they are vowels and adlibs, then by all means I think they can become a background instrument
Sounding amateur does NOT generally stem from one's "intention" to focus on a particular line or instrument. Sounding amateur comes from the "technique" you are using to create that emphasis. In general, you can't simply turn parts up or down and call it a day.
@@LutherBaker yes you can, its called mixing. Just because you cant mix quiet vocals doesnt mean someone else cant either. The reason why musicians suceed is because they are unique. Making the most boring yee yee ass basic house music is gonna bring you nowhere.
Transition HOW TO: start clean emphasize main melody bring in Supporting elements from background change bass pattern volume up support elements bring in fx bring final rows?(like snare roll) remove everything to emphatize a contrast for the drops -> this amplifys emotions
I can only think of one person on TH-cam with information as good as yours and that is Warren Huart of Produce Like a Pro. Pretty good company, Alice:) However, if you have lousy vocals there is only one acceptable thing to do and that is hit the delete key. If the sax lead sounded like a fifth grader playing a student sax would you try and doctor it or replace it with anything?
@@lars1914 - Ah, so you have thought about replacing the sax player in your group:)) Maybe you could get their friend who plays fiddle in a gypsy jazz group. Squeak, squeak, squeak...
You will have a hard time with such form of phasing. But in general, there is phasing that you can use to thicken your sound field or as an effect, if used carefully and thoughtfully.
Alice uses KH310's (I've noticed many other producers are using these monitors as well including Ben Böhmer). If I produce techno/deep house why should I use KH310 vs say Genelec 8451's? (is the bass much better represented on the Neumanns? for this genre of music, Im struggling to decide which monitors to upgrade too, even after reading so much online).
I make music for long time they sound cheap and not perfect balacing. because it sounds different. Music today sound too clean and overproducing at Perfection And its sounds like all the same like Others Artist Guys make your own Sounddesign Wenn its Sound cheap Ist ok its you Not everyone like a Perfect Balance Ultra clean sound mixing
In case you hadn't seen it yet, ableton beta for 12.1 has an autotuner that looks pretty awesome, called auto shift. Better than AI, you can tweak it right in your track, follow MIDI notes, add vibrato (with a delay for legato notes) etc.
For anyone wondering if you should subscribe to Alice...yeah just do it. Just do it you will not regret it. I've been watching Alice for 6 years now, and my productions would even be close to what i am doing now without her...Best production tips in TH-cam sphere and awesome sound packs.
Your listening device or environment might be the issue. If you're using studio monitors, look into acoustic treatment. If you can only use headphones where you live, then invest in a good pair of open-back headphones. I highly recommend the Sennheiser HD 560S if you need headphones that give you a clear picture of what's going on in your sub region, when I got them my mixes improved pretty much overnight - especially in the low end.
Gatekeeper Bullshit which is totally outdated today. There are no rules in art. Question is WHO is paying or WHO decides. Why should one listen to a bad singer who only can be rescued by heavy autotune? Or even pay for it? This edm vocal ai music is not worth a penny anymore therefore it is totally irrelevant what leadsound the synth etc has. I though AI is doing this today? Back to real instruments the rest is over.
lol bs on the 2nd with synth/vocal/back/front "Amateur" in this case means taste. It was a deeper, more dynamic mix. Riskier. Harder to pull off. Which is what you run from, repeating the same thin-sounding formula that you spread like gospel, like a sect. Why? Because average ear can't hear all the stuff so you keep screaming into it with the mids and highs, rolls, "drops" and abrasive resonant torture. Really hard, mixing for kids and tested hypnotic conditioning.
How to spot amateurs: Using Samples and doing EDM… could you please make the same video for producers who produce music with real instruments and real musicians?
These guys are not musicians , they are more like editors or sound regulators for that matter. Doesn’t make them less talented though , just a different breed.kinda of like your sound engineer at the studio.
@@krimsonfunk That’s true. Im just a Bit pissed that there are 10000 TH-cam producers with Titles like „how to get an even bass“ and using synth bass instead of an live played e bass. That’s not only a different breed but also a different level.
@@fd4169 totally agree … we are some what of a dying breed :( …I mean for now still someone with musical knowledge writes and creates those loops , some audio engineer programs that bass one shot sound / circuitry , and some drummer records that hat and snare …with Ai around the corner , I don’t know, all bets are off !
@@BrenCford When it comes to mixing, yes...i dont talk about arrangement and the art of making music itself...but the craft of mixing live instruments is another level. Abbrechen Antworten
There is only one thing that separates amateur from professional: Do you get paid or does your music earn, i suppose we have to say that a professional earns enough to live on!
Depends how you use it. For example Daft Punk used it very intelligent, to differ their robotic being to the human ones. Autotune mostly sucks, I agree.😊
@@TraxtasyMedia Daft Punk used a Vocoder, which is different as autotune. It synthetise vocals to create a sound while autotune is just a pitch correction of an existing vocals :D
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Ah Jeez, I didn't mind the transition around 5:15 ! Do I listen to music so that I can be bored? No. I listen to be surprised! Of Course!
I suppose different strokes for different folks!
A lot of "producers" are trying to produce "product" and others are trying to produce ART. Different aims, for different audiences.
I love transitions like this, I have heard it in professional recordings and remixes so it definitely seems more like a personal preference not to like this. I think once a song sounds perfect or near perfect to you then that's better than striving for a perfect that was set by someone else, unless you have been contracted to make a very certain sound then you can make the song the way you feel.
yeah I think so
I find myself, constantly, looking for new music after I start hearing all the same tactics. I need something I've never heard before.
There's producing for listeners vs. producing for producers. Just like there's playing guitar for listeners vs. playing guitar to impress other guitar nerds. The average person doesn't care about these subtleties.
In all fairness, if you only just started producing music, it’s ok to sound amateur, as long as you are learning. I love this channel by the way.
Fully agree here, furthermore its a vital part of the process. Refining and evolving the basics is what gives you unique artistic character
Gotta go through it to get to it
If you aren't making money from your music, then it's ok to sound amateur.
One day when perhaps pro one can go back and remix, now that is a lot of fun too! No work is ever truly lost!!!
💯 Thanks for saying it ♥️🐇
@@JayboTheHoodwhen people listen to music they have any ideas if it sound amateur or not. If it sound good and the feeling is here, people will just appreciate the music.
We should more focus on how to make interesting music instead of « sound like a pro »
You, my dear, have got yourself a new subscriber!
i think the fact that people actually pay a monthly subscription to get things like a hihat loop from splice is the most disappointing thing in the video. i'm ok with not every mixing decision being perfect when listening to music, but music just being a combination of samples that you could have even made yourself easily.. i just don't see the point. i mean it's bad enough that people take bass and lead sounds from those platforms and basically disregard the potential to bring their own style into the most important part of the song, but hihats aren't even hard to make. you could literally fart into a microphone, slap heavy wavefold distortion at it and put an envelope on the resulting sound and you'd have a proper hihat
Nothing wrong with using a hihat loop from splice if you know how to mix it properly and/or manipulate it into your own thing. The shit that really grinds my gears these days is peeps releasing full blown AI-gen tracks for cash monies $$$$.
Honestly using loop fodder for your percussion is a nice way to fatten it up. It's actually time consuming to build a real thick percussion part from scratch (depending on your genre is how thick you want it). Use a few loops and a few original parts why not.
@@Jimbo386000this yes. Or - reference a perc loop u like - and rebuild it with some variation / diff sounds - in ableton drumsynth fe or machine - thats pretty straight fwd.
@SanDfckt that works too. Usually what I do is I make a bunch of loops. And I reuse them, and a lot of times I'll chop them up or in some way resample them unless they're just perfectly what I'm looking for in a song. But I'll also use those along with loops from packs or splice.
@@Jimbo386000 yep. Its all about playing with the possibilities / and that learning never ends lol. I sometimes wonder if my workflow is too complicated tho xD
Awesome vid, thanks. The best part of the journey is that I can remember times when I'd make almost all these mistakes, now it's more like 3-4 that could be improved
For me the "secret ingredient" in abrupt changes is missing down beat ending. A drummer would never stop the groove at the eighth beat. They stop it on the first beat of the next part even if it is a chill part. Unfinished grooves just hang in the air for me. This might also mean you have edit your hi hat loop to get the right sound at this extra hit.
Smart observation
You are one of the many who can fit 2 hours of info into under 10 minutes
My favorite type of content creator! 😁
i gotta be honest.
while some of your tips are definitely worth doing, some of them can be artistic preference.
why do i need to put the vocals first? i may be loving my good M1 house piano with the M1 organ bass. and want ot focus on that. making the vocals a bit more in the background.
i would say thats a super valid thing to do if you as an artist want to sound like that. i wouldnt say that makes you amateur
But then you have to do many other things as well. Maybe remove the lyrics, or have very simple and audible words. Move the voice to sides and put shit ton of reverb on them. Having two main actors fight for the same space is the amateur.
I think the question would be: what KIND of vocals are they? If it is a hook with words that would pull attention, it only makes sense to give it the attention it deserves. If they are vowels and adlibs, then by all means I think they can become a background instrument
Sounding amateur does NOT generally stem from one's "intention" to focus on a particular line or instrument. Sounding amateur comes from the "technique" you are using to create that emphasis. In general, you can't simply turn parts up or down and call it a day.
@@LutherBaker yes you can, its called mixing.
Just because you cant mix quiet vocals doesnt mean someone else cant either.
The reason why musicians suceed is because they are unique. Making the most boring yee yee ass basic house music is gonna bring you nowhere.
@@mutzbunny Agree there. Its in the mix.
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Great seeing Hive 2 in this video, along with Serum. I saw Pigments in another one, also a very cool synth. Love the Serum skin as well.
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Transition HOW TO:
start clean
emphasize main melody
bring in Supporting elements from background
change bass pattern
volume up support elements
bring in fx
bring final rows?(like snare roll)
remove everything to emphatize a contrast for the drops
-> this amplifys emotions
Great video and tutorial! 😎
Yes the Queen of Mixing has spoken! Very helpful video
Great points. Particularly cannot bury those vocals, 👏🏻
😅 I feel so called out, and yet inspired at the same time! ♥️🐇
If you do not count the fact that I understand almost nothing, then watching the video is very interesting to me!😀
Great video!
I can only think of one person on TH-cam with information as good as yours and that is Warren Huart of Produce Like a Pro. Pretty good company, Alice:)
However, if you have lousy vocals there is only one acceptable thing to do and that is hit the delete key. If the sax lead sounded like a fifth grader playing a student sax would you try and doctor it or replace it with anything?
Don't make me laugh!!!
@@lars1914 - Ah, so you have thought about replacing the sax player in your group:)) Maybe you could get their friend who plays fiddle in a gypsy jazz group. Squeak, squeak, squeak...
The last time i heard the word Amateur was in a category list of some website .. i Don't remember the website now
In FL Studio you can do very similar voice clip pitch correction in the built in Newtone plugin. I've used it before and it can be very powerful
So what's the song playing at 1:51?
The tips about simply changing out samples, adding more emotion to transitions, and varying the drums made my writer block go away! THANK YOU
Good luck genius.
@@Michel-gv1sr Thank you!! 😊
01:19 i actually prefered this one somehow
Lol weirdly the same. Haha. Maybe cuz used to dnb 🤷🏻♀️
I don't know if you've done it or not, but a live on TH-cam reacting to your subscribers' tracks and giving them feedback would be nice.
Liked the phased bass around or before 3:30 better than the "correct" solid bass.
It'll stop the track from being loud even if it sounds cool
You will have a hard time with such form of phasing. But in general, there is phasing that you can use to thicken your sound field or as an effect, if used carefully and thoughtfully.
Super great video. Reminding on what to keep in mind, when I am mixing/producing my tracks
Alice uses KH310's (I've noticed many other producers are using these monitors as well including Ben Böhmer). If I produce techno/deep house why should I use KH310 vs say Genelec 8451's? (is the bass much better represented on the Neumanns? for this genre of music, Im struggling to decide which monitors to upgrade too, even after reading so much online).
What's the song that plays during the abrupt transitions?? I like it!
Amazing content!
Hello, Alice! What videos on your channel would you recommend that contain tips for writing intros for techno tracks in Ableton Live?"
thank you for your video , could you please tell us the website name again to make A.I. voices?
Very good material. Thank you very much!
What's the notes 3:23 ? G G F# F# A B B ?
Sometimes Random hi hat samples will have hidden low end so make sure to eq
I make music for long time they sound cheap and not perfect balacing.
because it sounds different.
Music today sound too clean and overproducing at Perfection
And its sounds like all the same like Others Artist
Guys make your own Sounddesign
Wenn its Sound cheap
Ist ok its you
Not everyone like a Perfect Balance Ultra clean sound mixing
Are you based in Sweden?
Alice your videos are always awesome! Thanks for the super useful information 🙏🎸🌶️
They can also just buy Auto-Tune Pro (as it has graphics editing), Melodyne or my fave RePitch.
So informative. These are great tips. Number 6 has a beautiful melody
is it okey to put utility phase invert on synth
Idk why you would do that, but it wouldn’t do anything bad
In case you hadn't seen it yet, ableton beta for 12.1 has an autotuner that looks pretty awesome, called auto shift. Better than AI, you can tweak it right in your track, follow MIDI notes, add vibrato (with a delay for legato notes) etc.
Double like this video
What's the "Muddy low end" track??
mind against the prey remix
@@kalb683 thank you so much
cool!
Grrat advice! BTW how can i get your serum skin? It looks amazing
Great video, thanks!
For anyone wondering if you should subscribe to Alice...yeah just do it. Just do it you will not regret it. I've been watching Alice for 6 years now, and my productions would even be close to what i am doing now without her...Best production tips in TH-cam sphere and awesome sound packs.
AH serum! the industry standard
My biggest problem is mixing sub-bass. That is all my problems
Your listening device or environment might be the issue. If you're using studio monitors, look into acoustic treatment. If you can only use headphones where you live, then invest in a good pair of open-back headphones. I highly recommend the Sennheiser HD 560S if you need headphones that give you a clear picture of what's going on in your sub region, when I got them my mixes improved pretty much overnight - especially in the low end.
@@SomeOne-pd6vm Ya know. Good point. My listening equipment is definitely not up to par with the type of music I enjoy creating. Thank you!
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Gatekeeper Bullshit which is totally outdated today. There are no rules in art. Question is WHO is paying or WHO decides. Why should one listen to a bad singer who only can be rescued by heavy autotune? Or even pay for it? This edm vocal ai music is not worth a penny anymore therefore it is totally irrelevant what leadsound the synth etc has. I though AI is doing this today? Back to real instruments the rest is over.
Nice video 🔥🔥 your voice is missing something 😂
Alice thank you!
lol bs on the 2nd with synth/vocal/back/front
"Amateur" in this case means taste. It was a deeper, more dynamic mix. Riskier. Harder to pull off.
Which is what you run from, repeating the same thin-sounding formula that you spread like gospel, like a sect. Why? Because average ear can't hear all the stuff so you keep screaming into it with the mids and highs, rolls, "drops" and abrasive resonant torture.
Really hard, mixing for kids and tested hypnotic conditioning.
Thanks for the video! My vocals are bad, but using my voice is part of the fun of making music.
How to spot amateurs: Using Samples and doing EDM… could you please make the same video for producers who produce music with real instruments and real musicians?
These guys are not musicians , they are more like editors or sound regulators for that matter. Doesn’t make them less talented though , just a different breed.kinda of like your sound engineer at the studio.
@@krimsonfunk That’s true. Im just a Bit pissed that there are 10000 TH-cam producers with Titles like „how to get an even bass“ and using synth bass instead of an live played e bass. That’s not only a different breed but also a different level.
@@fd4169 totally agree … we are some what of a dying breed :( …I mean for now still someone with musical knowledge writes and creates those loops , some audio engineer programs that bass one shot sound / circuitry , and some drummer records that hat and snare …with Ai around the corner , I don’t know, all bets are off !
Like Daft Punk? Bloody amateurs!
@@BrenCford When it comes to mixing, yes...i dont talk about arrangement and the art of making music itself...but the craft of mixing live instruments is another level.
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Your the best
There is only one thing that separates amateur from professional: Do you get paid or does your music earn, i suppose we have to say that a professional earns enough to live on!
Whack!!!
8:23 sounds like Boris brechja 😅
lol all 3 sound amateur
Auto tune stands out a mile, I hate the sound of it.
Depends how you use it.
For example Daft Punk used it very intelligent, to differ their robotic being to the human ones.
Autotune mostly sucks, I agree.😊
@@TraxtasyMedia Daft Punk used a Vocoder, which is different as autotune. It synthetise vocals to create a sound while autotune is just a pitch correction of an existing vocals :D
@@looseno not exactly, they used talkboxes, which were the inofficial analog autotune. :)
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Yes the Queen of Mixing has spoken! Very helpful video