Modelling Concrete Hard Standing | The Gowerton Parkway Method
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มี.ค. 2020
- In this video we take a look at making effective concrete hard standing from....concrete. I have long had reservations about using cardboard or plasticard, and have never felt that the commericaly available kits really capture the essence of real concrete. In this video we look at how to resolve this !
I really liked you're method of putting the flangeway into the hard standing... it looked really good. I bet your layout had a good covering of concrete dust over it though, except where that red cloth was, with you blowing the dust from the flangeway instead of hoovering it up, and not attaching a vacuum to your electric sander to catch the dust from that, you must have spent more time cleaning up the dust than you spent doing the project. It looks as though you could have done with wiping a damp cloth over the concrete before the wash as it looked as though you were brushing dust up when you started brushing the wash on. A suggestion if you do it again is maybe using a metal plasterers trowel to put the mixture down and then letting it dry for a short while, like you did, and then finishing it off with the trowel wet in a bucket of water and cleaned each pass like ive seen plasterers do when they put the finish to plastered walls.
Spot on. Perfect results, I've found that if you model the likes of dirt, concrete etc, using the real stuff beats any man made products.
Smashed it.
Top job.
Thanks mate. Yea, I have always wondered why people model coal loads with imitation coal for example. I was having a think about how to model hard standing, and thought the same could apply. Luckily, it did !
This layout is going to be legendary
Cheers mate ! Hows yours coming along now ?
Gowerton Parkway I’m on stop now mate, sold the house so just buying and adding sound to the locos for now. Going to have to build a new layout when I move.
Nice train rides. Awesome modellrailway. The landscape looks so realistic.
Thanks very much :-)
Looking really nice Marcus - a massive improvement over the old look! Really get stuff!
Thanks :-) I am very pleased with it !
Brilliant update and how to do it it ! Now I’ve seen how you created the hard standing I think I feel confident to tackle it myself, good job well done Marcus, cheers Dazza
Get stuck in and have a go mate. I'd love to see your results :-)
18.44...whenever I need cheering up, i watch this bit...😂
Junction Road TMD hahahaha yesssss.
Interesting technique - the results are really quite convincing! Nicely done. Best, John
Thanks John. Its taken a while to stumble across something that worked well !
Great video & very informative. No prizes for guessing what I will be doing this weekend!
The only place I can find the concrete stuff is Homebase. Let me know how you do.
Great wagons in introduction, good work after, thank you for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
Outstanding job!...I also see you have a magnificent rake of Accurascale PFA's.
Thank you ! Yea they are lovely aren't they the PFA's 😍
Awesome job Marcus!! Well done. Thanks for sharing! Stay safe. Cheers Onno.
Cheers Onno, glad you enjoyed it. All the best, and look after yourself.
Many thanks for sharing your techniques. Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it :-)
That looks so good . I am going to try that myself. Thanks👍
Awesome - let me know how you do !
Nice work on the hard standing looks really good
Cheers mate
Very nice. Apart from having real concrete rather than polyfiller, (plasti)card etc., the great thing is how fine and realistic looking the flange grooves are using your technique. Great stuff :-)
Thanks ! It took a bit of thinking through, but I got there in the end.
I have only just found this layout. It is superb and very realistic / believable.
Thank you - glad you have found the channel now :-)
On my TMD I have just used card and then painted it. I have also weathered it slightly, but the way you have done it with reall concrete it looks much better than my hard standing. Well done.
I too previously had done it the way you described, and it looked fine, but I just wanted that extra little bit of realism :-)
This has an amazingly realistic finish to it - great job!
I am a little puzzled at the products description of 'concrete' though as I always thought it contained cement which uses water for its chemical reaction to harden rather than air drying!
Hi Marcus, looking good.
With the little nicks and divots, fill with some filler dyed dark grey/black, to represent a tarmac patch, or fill with some resin to form a puddle, or mixed with black paint to form an oil spill.
Cheers Rich
That looks incredible Marcus, you don’t get more authentic than real cement. Paul
Thanks Paul ! I’m pleased with it !!
very good video and great work well done on what you've done.
Thank you :-)
Wow so impressive. Well done
Thanks mate
Very good mate I will definitely keep this in mind when it comes to this stage on mine.
One thing I might just add from experience. Using a good vac to suck up concrete dust or any other similar stuff such as plaster dust etc is a very bad idea. Because the dust is so fine it gets into the motor and burns them out. When I was renovating i ended up investing in a middle of the line wet and dry vac and it works a bloody treat and has come in very handy for layout use now. Just trying to save you from getting killed by the wife haha
Oh jeez I hope my wife doesn't read that haha ! Luckily, there shouldn't be any more concrete to do I don't think !
Superb Marcus, it looks brilliant. So simple but very effective.
I followed a similar technique to your card one previously, this really makes me want to try this one now.
Thanks for the how to.
Stay Safe, Alex
Cheers Alex, much appreciated !
Hello, very good update, superb tuto. i like it. Gérard.
I'm glad you found it helpful :-)
I’m just doing a concrete area for a harbour and shed , interesting. Regards Fred
Well done mate! You had me worried when you started though😳
Yea ,I was worried the first time I did it !
Nice job mate, I remember doing this with filler on Melksham TMD, pig of a job...This looks very similar but the tip with using only the cutting disc is great.
Yea I learnt the hard way with the cutting disk. Hopefully thatll save people some hassle !
Excellent....detailed instructions on how you completed this task
I am glad you found it useful :-)
@@GowertonParkway is the humbrol wash the grey colour?
Sadly no room on my layout for any concrete. However if I ever do, this will be what I use. Thanks for the heads up on this one Marcus. Cheers, Bob
Glad you found it useful !
Hi Marcus that is an excellent result and I suppose nothing represents concrete better than...….concrete and with all the detailing it looks very good indeed...…...……………............Cheers Kev
Cheers Kev, Concrete does seem to make good concrete !
wonderful video, Greetings from France.
Nice job
Thanks John
Good video, keep on for de next.
HC Treintje Belgium.
Thank you! 👍
Hi, fantastic job! May I ask, is it Humbrol black wash you used or grey?
Its the dark grey colour. To be honest the colour isn't that vital. You will get a good result from either if you are sanding away as I did.
Hi, nice job, but personally, I much prefer your plasticard version. I thought the cracks and expansion joints with grass tufts looked awesome.
Maybe if you added those features to this version, it would add that extra bit visual realism.
Cheers Rich
Possibly something to look at. The plasticard was very unreliable for running on, and visually, in my opinion, the new version looks significantly better.
@@GowertonParkway Fair do's mate, from the vid you can't see the problems with running and probably don't get the overall effect of it. You're seeing it in the flesh, so you've got a better view of things and you experience any snags with derailments etc. It's what you're satisfied with that counts, but I just loved the effect of the weeds growing in the cracks and expansion joints, not seen that modelled before and thought the effect was Brill.
Keep up the great work, Cheers Rich
Great Job there mate ,just need to finish it off by putting a drain in the middle for spillages etc
Cheers Merv - good shout !
Running a old triang big wheel wagon down before it dried might have helped with the flange ways. A damp cloth would also help keep the dust down along with fitting the vac pipe to the sander.
You should go to Jewsons & get something called Polyfilla "one fill" it's much more maliable,it's a ready mixed white filler,if you mix your paint with it before you put it down then once dry all you need to do is score it & weather it,it's a bit expensive but much easier to use & gives the same result
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Thanks very much.
My only suggestion is to start with coarser sandpaper, then move to finer grade. It'll save lots of time and effort. But either way, your results look fantastic.
You could have a point. I found chopping and changing between grades added to the texture more though.
Can I suggest you spray the board with water before applying the mix, this will promote adhesion to the substrate (baseboard)
Brian Tozer That’s a really good shout Brian .
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stream on tonight?
Hi mate , sorry no ! Couldn’t secure a moderator - stay tuned though , lll be doing something this week !
Should have used a tamping bar like they use in full scale would have got it level in no time. Concrete sets better if you bring moisture to the surface. Weathered Concrete doesn't really have any light patches, by it's nature unless sealed it absorbs any spillages (Diesel, Oil, Grease or Paint). Concrete/Cement dust is not very good for your lungs hope you were wearing a filter mask.
Why didn't he take up the track first why cement over it
Technique works well, but dude....slapping all that concrete down next to your expensive stock made me cringe ....move it, take it off, please...I wrecked a ltd edition paint by having it in place when doing work
Hahaha it was a bit risky but I am a maverick 😂
Gowerton Parkway , like Chuck Norris, a man who laughs in risk’s face !
Surely plaster would have sufficed, polyfilla etc... then just paint it! Too much work.
How is putting something that you then have to work on to make look like concrete less work ? 🤔 This whole process took less than 24 hours .
I think your making too much work for yourself, have you thought about Self levelling compound? Basically, a very thin cement used
prior to fitting flooring.
No - this works and doesn’t take much effort . What you saw in that video was done from 6pm one evening and complete by 3pm the next day . Working over rail heads you need to be able to adjust the height of the concrete to run flush with your rail heads. I don’t think you could rely on self levelling compound to give an accurate enough finish to be honest .