I know this is a old video but wow it is refreshing to see a woman who knows about files! its just not common now days. I can tell you really know your stuff. right on! God bless and hope you are still enjoying your hobbies/etc
Thank you so much. I've been an unsatisfied beader for a while, really wanting to get into metal work. I inherited some needle files that are in pretty bad shape and have not been knowing what to get for myself. This helps so much. I discovered your tutorials today (through artisan whimsy) and am enjoying them so much!
Thank you so much my head has been spinning where to start with the larger files.I have a set needle nose. I purchase a 0.2 half round file & my next purchase will be 0.4 set. This video was most helpful. Enjoy the day and keep making more videos. :-)
Melissa where did u get ur blue file storage holders? I just purchased a couple Valtitans and a few regular 1163 8 in swiss vallorbe files with 5 in handles.. really great quality iam impressed.. pays to have these. Thank you for your knowledge and help
I just came across your videos and subscribed. Good information, I do a lot of metalworking, blacksmith, building cars ect. I use a piece of flattened copper tubing and occasionally a mild muriotic or sulfuric acid, after a good cleaning the acid makes them as close to new as possible. You've got a nice way of presenting the video.
Welcome to my channel James. That is great to know. I am going to do a video that shows how I clean mine with a bit of vinegar. I haven't tried the others though. However, I have used a piece of thick gauge brass, probably the same way you have used the copper tubing.
Wow... 8 years ago you made this! Still a great video with clear explanation. Anyway, I was just wondering if you could help me out with some brand names? Those sets of four files look like what I’m after for some metal finishing but in Australia, I’m finding them hard to source so maybe if I start by searching for a brand?
So those are no longer available from the source I got them from. However, I adore Glardon-Vallorbe files. Grobet also have a wonderful set of files. They are a bit more speedy, but the quality is totally worth it.
The vinegar works but much less aggressively than the stronger acids, one hour in sulfuric acid would equal about 24-30hrs in vinegar. I usually save a few files, tools and other metal and do it outside, the fumes aren't fun, eye protection and good chemical proof gloves, then a strong alkali(baking soda-water) neutralize bath works wonders. On the other hand you can use a covered Tupperware container and submerge the tools in vinegar and put it on a shelf for a few days, You can perform other tasks while they soak. Good luck and be safe
+Melissa Muir Ten parts water to one part acid, either Muriotic acid OR a sulfuric acid drain cleaner. Please do not mix acids, I'm sure that's probably obvious but the results would be disastrous, also add the acid to the water not acid first. For the alkali solution mix enough baking soda so the solution is pretty cloudy not clear. Eye/face, skin protection is a must. Please be safe, Jim.
+James Zivny thanks Jim. Yes, i do know those safety precautions and i take them. That was the same dilution ratio i had seen with others. Thanks again.
+Melissa Muir I don't mean to be a pain in the butt, after working in repair shops, service departments and metal shops I've seen the results of lack of safe work habits. Needless trips to the ER for minor and major injuries to co-workers and being married to a nurse make safety a priority. Have a good evening.
What type brand of files are in the blue wrap cases do ya have? And what's your favorite file company? You could get Amazon affiliate links in the video bio and have this stuff listed there
Hello just came across your channel I'm a young man looking into trying to start a career in fabricating any tips on how to get into machining or jewling (or however the verb for being a jeweler and/or gold/silver smith)
@dewdropdesigns90 - Welcome. Hopefully you had a chance to check out my blog too. There are a lot more tutorials on there as well. Welcome to the wonderful world of metal. :) You are going to love it!
Melissa Muir Hey Melissa thanks for replying so quickly! I wrote you an email using the email address from your website. I hope to hear from you. Thanks! :)
tip for storing files: use chalk. just rub normal chalk over the file so the chalk gets in the grooves. this helps a lot to prevent rust in the grooves. and when you are ready to use the file () in a few months) just clean the file with a file card or which ever method you prefer.
@kyddoemiko100, I am so glad I could help you. There are so many files to choose from, I know it can be a bit overwhelming. Good luck and enjoy your new files when you get them. You will find that they will make all the difference.
Hi you are interesting to listen to and great tempo. Sorry me for asking but are you Shure about the types of files and the naming of them? Just asking because I have learned it all totally different. :-)
+Nexov Nexov thank you. This video was done a long time ago and I have learned so much since then. Here is a more recent video I did with the line of files from Glardon-Vallorbe.
Thanks a lot for your answer, maybe it would be a good idea to make a note on this video, that maybe not all the info are 100% correct and you have a newer version?:-)
Hiya, almost a good video... As others have said you must use handles otherwise you end up with the tang in your palm, ask me how I know... Handles are also available for needle files, they make them easier to hold. Also a bastard file is a very course cut file, almost a rasp, not a shape or size of standard size file.
Yeah, this is one of my old videos, and if you have been watching as I have gone along, you have seen that I have learned a lot since starting. ;) Thanks so much fr your support.
That is going to be a very coarse file. It is good for heavy material removal. I don’t use it very often, and most times I use it in wood applications rather than metal. But I do occasionally use it on metal.
Thanks Orlando. I have handles on some of them, but nobody has ever told me that you should have handles on them to be safely. In all the workshops and classes that I have had and jewelers I have worked with have all had handleless files. I will agree that it is certainly more comfortable and makes sense that they are safer. Perhaps I will address this issue in another video. Thank you again! I appreciate the feedback. Goes to show, you never stop learning.
Thanks Orlando. I have handles on some of them, but nobody has ever told me that you should have handles on them to be safely. In all the workshops and classes that I have had and jewelers I have worked with have all had handle-less files. I will agree that it is certainly more comfortable and makes sense that they are safer. Perhaps I will address this issue in another video. Thank you again! I appreciate the feedback. Goes to show, you never stop learning.
Melissa Muir Mellissa, in all of my watchmaking training and in most of the watchmaking books, a handle is recommended for safety. I remember once when I brought my own file to school, the instructor made it his mission in life to get a handle put onto it. The same holds for gravers. The main reason of the safety issue is that should the brittle Length break (it is dead hardened, not tempered), the tang, which HAS been tempered, might decide to make its home in your hand.
Thank you. That makes sense. It is crazy all the things we learn from different people. I find that without the handles, they are uncomfortable. I will try to get some handles for them and see about doing a video update.
Melissa Muir For what it's worth, if you're pushing hard enough to snap a file and drive the point into your hand, you must be making some really big jewellery. I never use handles on my files or rasps unless I'm working on a large project on a lathe.
I agree. However, this is an older video, and depending on what you are buying, there are some very good tools coming out of China. But it is hit and Miss for sure.
I know this is a old video but wow it is refreshing to see a woman who knows about files! its just not common now days. I can tell you really know your stuff. right on! God bless and hope you are still enjoying your hobbies/etc
Thank you. This is an old video. I am so glad to say that I know even more about files now than I did then. 🥰
Thank you so much. I've been an unsatisfied beader for a while, really wanting to get into metal work. I inherited some needle files that are in pretty bad shape and have not been knowing what to get for myself. This helps so much. I discovered your tutorials today (through artisan whimsy) and am enjoying them so much!
Great video. I inherited some files too, dropped them in vinegar for a clean up. Handles definitely a must. Thanks for the upload.
Love all of your videos & tutorials! Thanks for sharing!
Good night
Thank you so much my head has been spinning where to start with the larger files.I have a set needle nose. I purchase a 0.2 half round file & my next purchase will be 0.4 set. This video was most helpful. Enjoy the day and keep making more videos. :-)
Melissa where did u get ur blue file storage holders? I just purchased a couple Valtitans and a few regular 1163 8 in swiss vallorbe files with 5 in handles.. really great quality iam impressed.. pays to have these. Thank you for your knowledge and help
I just came across your videos and subscribed. Good information, I do a lot of metalworking, blacksmith, building cars ect. I use a piece of flattened copper tubing and occasionally a mild muriotic or sulfuric acid, after a good cleaning the acid makes them as close to new as possible. You've got a nice way of presenting the video.
Welcome to my channel James. That is great to know. I am going to do a video that shows how I clean mine with a bit of vinegar. I haven't tried the others though. However, I have used a piece of thick gauge brass, probably the same way you have used the copper tubing.
Awesome video! Thank you. I needed this.
That was just what I needed on files. Great video! You've won another subscriber.
Saint Steven thank you
@Dharlana, I was thrilled to learn about the file cleaning trick.
@Karla Webb, Thank you. I am glad you find the videos helpful.
Wow... 8 years ago you made this! Still a great video with clear explanation. Anyway, I was just wondering if you could help me out with some brand names? Those sets of four files look like what I’m after for some metal finishing but in Australia, I’m finding them hard to source so maybe if I start by searching for a brand?
So those are no longer available from the source I got them from. However, I adore Glardon-Vallorbe files. Grobet also have a wonderful set of files. They are a bit more speedy, but the quality is totally worth it.
The vinegar works but much less aggressively than the stronger acids, one hour in sulfuric acid would equal about 24-30hrs in vinegar. I usually save a few files, tools and other metal and do it outside, the fumes aren't fun, eye protection and good chemical proof gloves, then a strong alkali(baking soda-water) neutralize bath works wonders. On the other hand you can use a covered Tupperware container and submerge the tools in vinegar and put it on a shelf for a few days, You can perform other tasks while they soak. Good luck and be safe
Thanks James. What dilution of acid to water do you use?
+Melissa Muir Ten parts water to one part acid, either Muriotic acid OR a sulfuric acid drain cleaner. Please do not mix acids, I'm sure that's probably obvious but the results would be disastrous, also add the acid to the water not acid first. For the alkali solution mix enough baking soda so the solution is pretty cloudy not clear. Eye/face, skin protection is a must. Please be safe, Jim.
+James Zivny thanks Jim. Yes, i do know those safety precautions and i take them. That was the same dilution ratio i had seen with others. Thanks again.
+Melissa Muir I don't mean to be a pain in the butt, after working in repair shops, service departments and metal shops I've seen the results of lack of safe work habits. Needless trips to the ER for minor and major injuries to co-workers and being married to a nurse make safety a priority. Have a good evening.
What type brand of files are in the blue wrap cases do ya have? And what's your favorite file company? You could get Amazon affiliate links in the video bio and have this stuff listed there
Hello just came across your channel I'm a young man looking into trying to start a career in fabricating any tips on how to get into machining or jewling (or however the verb for being a jeweler and/or gold/silver smith)
Thanks for the lesson Melissa.
Do you use mask while filing?
@dewdropdesigns90 - Welcome. Hopefully you had a chance to check out my blog too. There are a lot more tutorials on there as well. Welcome to the wonderful world of metal. :) You are going to love it!
Hi can I ask where you got the file sets in the blue cases from?
RunawayWhispers I am a supplier for Eurotools and get them through them. I can order a set for you if you are interested. They are great files.
Melissa Muir
Hey Melissa thanks for replying so quickly! I wrote you an email using the email address from your website. I hope to hear from you. Thanks! :)
Good night
tip for storing files: use chalk. just rub normal chalk over the file so the chalk gets in the grooves. this helps a lot to prevent rust in the grooves. and when you are ready to use the file () in a few months) just clean the file with a file card or which ever method you prefer.
@kyddoemiko100, I am so glad I could help you. There are so many files to choose from, I know it can be a bit overwhelming. Good luck and enjoy your new files when you get them. You will find that they will make all the difference.
I got a gorbet diamond coated swiss cut. Now I known need a 0 cut now. Thank you
I am glad it was helpful.
Thank you so much for this vid Melissa!
Thanks for sharing! i was surprised about the cleaning also!
Hi you are interesting to listen to and great tempo. Sorry me for asking but are you Shure about the types of files and the naming of them? Just asking because I have learned it all totally different. :-)
+Nexov Nexov thank you. This video was done a long time ago and I have learned so much since then. Here is a more recent video I did with the line of files from Glardon-Vallorbe.
Thanks a lot for your answer, maybe it would be a good idea to make a note on this video, that maybe not all the info are 100% correct and you have a newer version?:-)
Hiya, almost a good video... As others have said you must use handles otherwise you end up with the tang in your palm, ask me how I know... Handles are also available for needle files, they make them easier to hold. Also a bastard file is a very course cut file, almost a rasp, not a shape or size of standard size file.
Yeah, this is one of my old videos, and if you have been watching as I have gone along, you have seen that I have learned a lot since starting. ;) Thanks so much fr your support.
Hiya, sorry I didn't realize it was an old one just that You Tube recommended it so I watched... @@MelissaMuir
Steve Coster thank you for watching and for giving the feedback. I appreciate it, and it helps me get better and better.
What is the meaning of zero cut !
That is going to be a very coarse file. It is good for heavy material removal. I don’t use it very often, and most times I use it in wood applications rather than metal. But I do occasionally use it on metal.
@@MelissaMuir thank you so much ⚘⚘⚘
4 no teether file price
I don’t sell tools. Sorry. I don’t have prices.
Hey Melissa great info. But all those files should really have handles put on them in order to work safely.
Thanks Orlando. I have handles on some of them, but nobody has ever told me that you should have handles on them to be safely. In all the workshops and classes that I have had and jewelers I have worked with have all had handleless files. I will agree that it is certainly more comfortable and makes sense that they are safer. Perhaps I will address this issue in another video. Thank you again! I appreciate the feedback. Goes to show, you never stop learning.
Thanks Orlando. I have handles on some of them, but nobody has ever told me that you should have handles on them to be safely. In all the workshops and classes that I have had and jewelers I have worked with have all had handle-less files. I will agree that it is certainly more comfortable and makes sense that they are safer. Perhaps I will address this issue in another video. Thank you again! I appreciate the feedback. Goes to show, you never stop learning.
Melissa Muir Mellissa, in all of my watchmaking training and in most of the watchmaking books, a handle is recommended for safety. I remember once when I brought my own file to school, the instructor made it his mission in life to get a handle put onto it.
The same holds for gravers.
The main reason of the safety issue is that should the brittle Length break (it is dead hardened, not tempered), the tang, which HAS been tempered, might decide to make its home in your hand.
Thank you. That makes sense. It is crazy all the things we learn from different people. I find that without the handles, they are uncomfortable. I will try to get some handles for them and see about doing a video update.
Melissa Muir For what it's worth, if you're pushing hard enough to snap a file and drive the point into your hand, you must be making some really big jewellery. I never use handles on my files or rasps unless I'm working on a large project on a lathe.
Fue un buen video, en lo personal considero q algunas de las herramientas chinas no tienen la calidad que a mi me gustaría...
I agree. However, this is an older video, and depending on what you are buying, there are some very good tools coming out of China. But it is hit and Miss for sure.
THANKS A LOT
You don’t any word about which companies you suggest.