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Very helpful guide; Ive seen a lot of guides out there just theory crafting builds that either are non functional or simply would be hell to play with for half of the game. In contrast, this guide just gives you a great idea on what spells and abilities you can work towards to, really well done. I didnt know about second spirit giving the metal curse, or about hampering hex!! I built my camelia differently so its nice to see this, gonna try it out on my second playthrough!!! Have you given thought to making a guide like this for armor? Would love to see your input given on it.
It can go higher: Freebooter's bane. Vanguard Slayer has an innate ability that gives the whole team half of his studied target bonuses. The Skald could also pick reckless stance instead and then pick inspired ferocity. For whatever reason, your teammates will receive the untyped song bonuses twice! Another reason is lethal stance gives competent bonuses, which conflicts with the Bard song. So now if your Skald picks the reckless stance instead, you could also have a Bard in your party to inspire courage (which is a competent bonus). Speaking of, pick the Dirge Bard type for your Bard because early on you'd want to have this Bard sing Dirge of Doom to automatically make enemies shaken (no saves). Then have everybody in the party take the shattered defenses feat so you are always attacking against their flatfooted AC. Later on your wizard/some cleric type will get Frightful Aspect, which does the same thing as Dirge of Doom, so do that instead and switch your bard back on inspire courage to boost AB's. I think I'm forgetting something 🤔 but you could definitely fit some of that into your current party to boost the AB even higher, since Wendy at least isn't really contributing 😄
Yep, there are ways of getting it even higher with some class specific abilities. Wenduag actually is one of the biggest damage dealers in the party even as mere Fighter. Actually, besides my main Trickster in that example, she is the one that does most damage.
@@cRPGBro Hey man, that's interesting to know. I guess she's doing the distraction shot debuffs too, so she's actually contributing to the buff/debuff thing we got going on here :D Btw, I couldn't find the metal curse with a witch. Can witches get it, or is it a shaman specific thing? My witch is at level 13 right now
@@JohnSmith-bs9ym Wendu is one of my main damage dealers, in this video I actually had to turn her AI off and don't attack because I wanted to show Cam otherwise Deskari tends to die too fast! Metal Curse is Shaman only from Stone Spirit. Another reason why Cam tends to be better than Ember gameplay wise.
@@cRPGBro ah very nice! So the metal curse and hampering hex both only last for a couple rounds because enemies on unfair always save lol...or does it not matter because you can keep them up with cackle? Sorry for the noob questions. I just started getting interested in the witch/shaman classes 😀
@@JohnSmith-bs9ym Only Evil Eye can be extended with Cackle/Chant. Hampering Hex is the shortest one - just 1 round if enemy saves and only works once per enemy. Metal Curse has increasing duration based on the hexer's level, at 16 it should least for 3 rounds and does NOT offer a save! It's certainly the strongest of the three. Feel free to ask more questions :)
learned alot, thank you for this video if you ever make a video for each companion class and how you build them, that would be great A companion per video would be great as well the feats, spells you use, and compositions would be awesome as well
Thank you for the comment! I have just started making companion and pet build guide videos, so be sure to check them! Seelah: th-cam.com/video/DHUqbdCp1cY/w-d-xo.html Camellia: th-cam.com/video/tzbK-oLXhDY/w-d-xo.html Pets: th-cam.com/video/GHlSyWhMhyA/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, and glad you found it useful, mate! Radiance is indeed great after you get the +4 version at least. Trickster characters can also get +6 weapons of anything that you find that is +5 due to the Arcana 1 Trick, which can be fun. It even works for Belts, Amulets & Headbands!
I know I'm a bit late to the video but I want still mention "For the King" yes, it is a competence Bonus but it is for attack and damage as well. I almost always have two cavaliers in my playtrough with at least +12 Charisma. Since most fights last only 3 rounds anyway the short duration isn't a problem at all. Even a 9lvl disciple of the pike becomes a really good ranged fighter. (It is still most usefull on opening charges) Another thing is arcane (eldrich) accuracy, esspecially if they fix the mighty advisor. (dimension strike is still more usefull in most cases but it needs 9 level instead of 3) All in all a really good video. With 2 sources I've overlooked so far.
Thank you for these tips. There are certainly more good sources of + AB that can be found besides the one mentioned here, as the game mechanics are pretty deep and many classes have unique features. Cavalier for example as you mentioned is certainly a very strong class, I really like the pet + high BAB + mounted bonuses combo some of the archetype can give you.
Smite evil + smite chaos + mark of justice all stack. So a paladin + HK with another support paladin will end up getting +36 AB and AC. Absolutely bonkers.
Just got into these type of games with Divinity 2 and Wotr. I hate that I miss even if the enemy is literally right in front of you, sometimes even without any spells in effect hahaha.
Thank you as always! Hope the video helps you, stacking AB will certainly enhance your gameplay by a lot, and killing tough enemies on Unfair in a single round feels great!
@@cRPGBro I was able to finish game on Hard with lichs. Mostly because of strong level 10 spells. And I never though that cleric can provide such powerful buff stuffs. Domain abilities are so unique and powerful.
@@NguyenTuanAnh-bz5xu Yep, Domains alone can make a massive difference and really help your AB hit insane levels so that even Unfair enemies cannot stand against you. My first run was also Lich, and I must also say the big spells, especially Negative Eruption for massive damage + heal carried my party through endgame!
True Seeing Communal is the simplest way. However, it only helps with Concealment sources that are from Illusion (most common ones are). For enemies with other sources of Concealment, this is when the Echolocation buff comes into play, and also the Blind Fight feat. Echolocation can be cast on other characters through either Alchemist with Infusion or Brown Fur Transmuter, otherwise it is a Personal only buff that Alchemists, Bards, Skalds, Sorcerers & Wizards get, some Mythic Paths too like Azata & Aeon.
Is hampering hex increased by cacke ? If not, it lasts just 1... The Metal curse seems insane. I already made Camellia a witch so i can get protective and fortune faster and since I don't want to respec, I want to make a shaman mercenary. I was thinking of the wildland shaman. What would you suggest, and how would you build him, for maximum effectiveness ?
Hampering Hex on a save is indeed just one round, but the truth is one round is enough to kill most bosses later on even on Unfair, I'll soon post a video where I kill Deskari in just 1 round, using the party you see in this video.
Hi there, I cover it all in by Buff Stacking Guide here: th-cam.com/video/fmO5ENUIi1g/w-d-xo.html Usually, buffs of the same TYPE will not stack, besides Dodge & Untyped.
Destructive was chosen mostly for the extra morale damage, as the highest we can get usually is +4 from Heroic Invocation, while Destruction Domain aura gives up to +10, so +6 over that. It also works for the enemies though, but it doesn't really matter because we can kill bosses way faster than they can damage us.
I have some questions regarding certain game mechanics: If I have greater invisibility spell and I attack, I always attack the target flat footed ? The only time where this is not the case is when the target has uncanny dodge ? If the target has true seeing; mirror image/displacement/blur are useless ? If the target has true seeing and I attack him while having greater invisibility, do I still attack him flat footed ? What's the deal with foresight ? How do I best protect myself vs greater dispel from enemies ? How do I increase the chances of my greater dispel working on better/more of the enemie's buffs ?
1. Greater Invis will make all your attacks count as sneaks and the enemy as flat footed, however, it will not work if they have True Seeing as that will bypass Greater Invis effect. 2. Foresight is a great spell that not only gives +2 AC but also lets you become immune to flat flooted, and sneak attacks as well. 3. The easiest way to protect yourself against dispelling enemies is to kill them as fast as possible, especially with ranged characters that have high Initiative. 4. To increase your chances of dispelling enemies, you need to increase your Caster Level, although in most cases this will be restricted to merged Lich & Angel. You can also use the Slayer/Rogue ability called Dispelling Attacks, that makes every single one of your sneak attacks also attempt to dispel a single effect on the enemy based on the Slayer/Rogue class level as CL, so a level 12 Woljif would count as a Level 12 Wizard for dispelling purposes, meaning you'd roll 12+ d20 to attempt to dispel the enemy.
I've followed your mounted cavalier build, plus all the companion builds yet I've failed to be able to complete Chorussina and (at level 10) Devarra tower encounters; characters were buffed entirely, power attacks off, and glitterdust/sosiel's true seeing were used. What is the problem? (MC, Seelah, Wenduag, Nenio, Greybor, Sosiel) If I'm following the tacs and builds I was expecting to be able to do this on Core.
I actually find Chorussina (if you let her fully power up instead of summoning the demon) to be one of the toughest battles in the game. I find the key to defeating her is to send a pet wall for tanking (besides being fully buffed to the MAX), and using Evil Eye to sharply reduce her AC or Saves. If you lower her saves, then also cast Pernicious Poison and go for Stinking Cloud (while your party is fully protected by Delay Poison Communal). Dispelling her can work, but it's a bit tricky since at that point you can only dispell ONE effect per Dispel cast. Devarra should certainly be doable when fully prebuffed. I have a video of her on Unfair here: th-cam.com/video/ShTH23Z4MaY/w-d-xo.html Is your main character capable of Hexes? They really make a massive difference, especially Extended Fortune & Protective Luck!
great video, i have some questions, for skald what's the stats spread you did, and what feats you took ?. ps: sorry about my English not my first language
For my Skald, I went with Dual Wielding Scimitars so I picked the dual wielding feats but invested in DEX only enough for them (so 19) while the rest I dumped into STR. You can just go DEX with Finesse + Mythic Finesse, I just kinda hate the DEX feat tax. In my Angel run I went with a Skald merc and specced him into dual wielding throwing axes, that was fun as well.
They fixed on update, like greater magic weapon with it's counter part magical vestment doesn't get the additional +5 but just make it a max of +5 total. Can you check your old saves if what I say is true? I just played just last month, I'm really late while I bought this on release jahaha
Magical Vestment was changed not to work on robes/unarmored anymore. As for Greater Magic Weapon, I have just tested it and Seelah was still making a +2 Sword into +5 with just 17 CL.
One of the things I don't like in games is how stacking gets out of control. Sure you can do amazing stacks but you're spending half an hour buffing before fights to get a good stack
That is true for D&D 3.5 and Pathfinder which is basically D&D 3.75 Prebuffing is the name of the game, at least on Core+ Wrath at least lets most buffs last for 24h, although that's not enough for travelling between most map areas.
Not just that but it's broken for spells like greater magic weapon and magical vestment since it goes beyond +5 unlike in tabletop. It really should really be patched out imo.
I know I'm late to the discussion, but I agree with you completely. If they're not going to rewrite the rules from the pen and paper RPG, they should build a feature that lets you select all of the buffs and then cast them automatically for you. So you pick Bull's Strength for your character once and set an option "cast automatically when entering a new area", and you never have to manually select it or sit through the animation again.
Lol. I have been reading it wrong. I have been buffing enemies with madness domain and mark of justice instead of picking it on my own teammates. Still it did not matter, but maybe should not have buffed Deskari at the end. That fight was rough.
Buffing enemies with Visions of Madness is actually powerful as well because of the way it works. It will buff one of three stats, and then REDUCE the other two by the same amount, so if you for example, buff Deskari's skill points (which doesn't matter), he'll get up to -10 to both AB and Saves! As for Mark of Justice, you should definitely be casting it ON the enemy! That's how you get the buff applied to your party members.
I'm stuck at something and I really need your help. I want to make a shaman mercenary but i'm stuck at exactly how to make her. My party is mostly melee: Sword Saint, Paladin with pet, Cleric with pet, Fur transmuter, Skald dual wielding throwing axes and I want a hexer. I would go with Ember but I want metal curse and creeping doom. I can't use Camellia since I did a different build. I will go second spirit nature and she will have a pet at lvl 16. How should I build her ? I can go 1 lvl fighter and get proficienties for everything. Should I focus her on some damage spells, get her archery feats, dual wield dagger on her and have her ride the pet ? I could go str based and get her another weapon. What do you recommend for my party setup ?
I would rather go for Martial Proficiency feat to get prof with most weapons instead of getting 1 level of Fighter because that delays spellcasting progression and also hexes, unless you are already high level. It depends on what you want really. You can focus on STR not to bother with the DEX feats and use a reach weapon + Enlarge to safely attack from the back and behind pets/the other characters. Depending on the weapon, you can also bypass the martial feat and go with a background that gives you proficiency in the weapon you want, such as Shackles Corsair for Scimitar. Archery also works just fine as you don't have a ranged archer in that party I believe so that's someone to equip the good bows you find. You can also go dual wield with Kukris, Daggers or Shortswords. For my Camellia in particular, I prefer to have her as a buffer with Greater Enduring Spells & debuffer with Hexes, but she can also decently contribute in melee. You can have your Shaman ride the pet, the only problem is Nature only really gives a pet at level 16+ so that's pretty late game.
@@cRPGBro i'll go 1 lvl in rowdy and then shadow shaman. I'll go with the bow route but pick up outflank, get the goddess that gives glaive favourite weapon and use the reach one when it's convenient and the bow when it's not.
@@cRPGBro You are right, there is the hunter that gives bow and shortbow proficiency, and seeing as I don't have any bow user, she will have to do. What do you think of the shadow shaman archetype, how can I get consistent sneak attacks as ranged ?
Clemency of Shadows Ring for +1 Attack of Opportunity to all party members inside the aura and stagger on AoOs. It's a very powerful ring, one of the best in the game, that you can find from a Crusade Relic. I talk about it here: th-cam.com/video/UDU0uSySrMo/w-d-xo.html
@@cRPGBro Perfect timing actually, am now level 11 and was wondering what heck to do with all these relics. Thanks for the tips. My mc is a cleric ecclesitheurge and honestly this video really opened my eyes to domains, they're insanely powerful. I started with nobility and protection but community and madness is almost required for that sweet sweet AB lol def need to pick those up.
@@carl7018 Glad it was useful to you. And Animal Domain is also amazing! Unless you don't like pets, but it's hard to deny they are a massive increase in power for any party.
@@cRPGBro yeah I did not know that you can pick the impossible domain ability multiple times as a cleric before this video. I will probably get a pet for my cleric, as it provides damage since my cleric is full support, and to help out lans wolf and eventually camellia's pet from extra nature spirit for quite the melee party that can also trip enemies.
Inspiring Command is bugged at the moment to be blocked by Mind Affecting immunity despite being a beneficial buff, so if you are an Angel with Improved Halo at Rank 7 or a Lich with Blessing of Unlife/after transformation.
For AB sources, I have this updated video: th-cam.com/video/omfTstdpBdw/w-d-xo.html For how to Stack OTHER Stats, with multiple sources as well, please check: th-cam.com/video/fmO5ENUIi1g/w-d-xo.html
So a skald gives +8 ab (6 competence, +2 from item), 6 ab and 1x mutiplier. Initially I was thinking for getting Arueshaelae but the skald seems better. What kind of skald would work better for my party, a ranged one, dual wielding or dual wielding with sword ? SS trickster main, paladin with a pet, sosiel with pet, fur transmuter, widland shaman if it has a pet and the last slot I would like an archer. What do you suggest for my party, between Arueshalae and a mercenary skald ?
For a Trickster party, I suggest going with a dual wielding Skald that has a high crit range weapon so either Scimitars or Kukris for example. That's because with Trickster, the more attacks you have, the better (for whole party). If you already have too many characters in the frontline, dual wielding throwing axes also works great! Aru can certainly be good but I vastly prefer Lann with a bow or Wenduag with dual axes for ranged purposes, mostly Wenduag.
@@cRPGBro If you wore to make a lvl 10 mercenary skald with dual wielding axes, what would be the optimal build ? I don't understand certain mechanics: does outflank work with ranged ? Is snap shot any good ? What stats would you start with and what feats/mythic ones would you take ?
@@MosCraciun777 Outflank does not work with ranged, only melee. You can fully focus on DEX if you want (Throwing Axes use DEX for AB) and leave STR at a decent amount on character creation such as 14. You can also get Finesse + Mythic Weapon Finesse to make the damage scale from DEX, but the normal Finesse feat doesn't do anything, it's just a prerequisite since the axes already use DEX for AB. I wouldn't really bother with the Snap Shot line because it takes a lot of feats before you start seeing actual results from it. I would definitely take: 1. The dual wielding feats 2. Point Blank + Precise like all ranged builds 3. Rapid Shot for an extra attack with Mythic Rapid Shot to remove the penalty 4. Improved Critical Mythic 5. Cleaving Shot & Distracting Shots, Ranging Shots can be decent as well and The Bigger they are as mythic ones. I suggest getting Cleaving Shot as your first mythic ability, and then either Improved Critical Mythic or Mythic Rapid Shot as first mythic feat.
Yep, Clerics make a massive difference, although I'd say they are only really a must on Hard+ Unfair. They certainly help on some Core battles too, though!
Hi there, both Fortune Hex & Protective Luck can be extended indefinitely and also out of battle by just using Chant or Cackle. Both also last up to 3 rounds by default as you increase in class levels, at 8 & 16. You can also extend Evil Eye duration with Chant or Cackle via a move action during battle.
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This is likely the best WotR guide video on TH-cam. Thanks for being helpful and straightforward.
Thank you!
I tried to gather as much useful information as possible for high stacking.
Very helpful guide; Ive seen a lot of guides out there just theory crafting builds that either are non functional or simply would be hell to play with for half of the game. In contrast, this guide just gives you a great idea on what spells and abilities you can work towards to, really well done. I didnt know about second spirit giving the metal curse, or about hampering hex!! I built my camelia differently so its nice to see this, gonna try it out on my second playthrough!!!
Have you given thought to making a guide like this for armor? Would love to see your input given on it.
Can you make a party/build guide for Wrath of the Righteous?
great videos man, i learn so much watching them. who would have guessed that a cleric brings like +22AB to the party... sick!
Thank you!
I plan on making builds for companions and such soon, currently making a pet guide video.
Great guide! Almost a year later and I'm still learning about the game from your videos. Thanks.
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Knowing how to stack AB to the max really is a life saver in Wrath.
Wow. What a savior this vid is. You don't even know how much I needed this!
Glad to be of service!
I think I saw your post under the "Mathfinder" account on reddit. This is an excellent breakdown.
Thank you! Should contain most of the important ways of increasing AB, and besides the Skald, all the others can be covered by story members.
Thanks, this helped a lot. Semi new player here struggling with the last half of the game
u forgot about stacking evil and sacred smite for 32 AB and AC
paladin+hell knight and bracer that convert chao smite to sacred
Wait how does this work? I thought Hellknights don't have their own version of Mark of Justice. Also, where's that bracer?
It can go higher:
Freebooter's bane.
Vanguard Slayer has an innate ability that gives the whole team half of his studied target bonuses.
The Skald could also pick reckless stance instead and then pick inspired ferocity. For whatever reason, your teammates will receive the untyped song bonuses twice! Another reason is lethal stance gives competent bonuses, which conflicts with the Bard song. So now if your Skald picks the reckless stance instead, you could also have a Bard in your party to inspire courage (which is a competent bonus).
Speaking of, pick the Dirge Bard type for your Bard because early on you'd want to have this Bard sing Dirge of Doom to automatically make enemies shaken (no saves). Then have everybody in the party take the shattered defenses feat so you are always attacking against their flatfooted AC. Later on your wizard/some cleric type will get Frightful Aspect, which does the same thing as Dirge of Doom, so do that instead and switch your bard back on inspire courage to boost AB's.
I think I'm forgetting something 🤔 but you could definitely fit some of that into your current party to boost the AB even higher, since Wendy at least isn't really contributing 😄
Yep, there are ways of getting it even higher with some class specific abilities.
Wenduag actually is one of the biggest damage dealers in the party even as mere Fighter. Actually, besides my main Trickster in that example, she is the one that does most damage.
@@cRPGBro Hey man, that's interesting to know. I guess she's doing the distraction shot debuffs too, so she's actually contributing to the buff/debuff thing we got going on here :D
Btw, I couldn't find the metal curse with a witch. Can witches get it, or is it a shaman specific thing? My witch is at level 13 right now
@@JohnSmith-bs9ym
Wendu is one of my main damage dealers, in this video I actually had to turn her AI off and don't attack because I wanted to show Cam otherwise Deskari tends to die too fast!
Metal Curse is Shaman only from Stone Spirit. Another reason why Cam tends to be better than Ember gameplay wise.
@@cRPGBro ah very nice! So the metal curse and hampering hex both only last for a couple rounds because enemies on unfair always save lol...or does it not matter because you can keep them up with cackle? Sorry for the noob questions. I just started getting interested in the witch/shaman classes 😀
@@JohnSmith-bs9ym
Only Evil Eye can be extended with Cackle/Chant.
Hampering Hex is the shortest one - just 1 round if enemy saves and only works once per enemy.
Metal Curse has increasing duration based on the hexer's level, at 16 it should least for 3 rounds and does NOT offer a save! It's certainly the strongest of the three.
Feel free to ask more questions :)
I'm a very casual player and keep learning from your videos. Would love if you shared a buffer build and your main characters. Keep up the good work!
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I pretend to release a Brown Fur Transmuter build soon.
learned alot, thank you for this video
if you ever make a video for each companion class and how you build them, that would be great
A companion per video would be great as well
the feats, spells you use, and compositions would be awesome as well
Thank you for the comment!
I have just started making companion and pet build guide videos, so be sure to check them!
Seelah: th-cam.com/video/DHUqbdCp1cY/w-d-xo.html
Camellia: th-cam.com/video/tzbK-oLXhDY/w-d-xo.html
Pets: th-cam.com/video/GHlSyWhMhyA/w-d-xo.html
Just a little thing, Radiance is the only +6 weapon in the game, so there's that extra +1.
Great video mate. This is crazy powerful, haha
Thanks, and glad you found it useful, mate!
Radiance is indeed great after you get the +4 version at least.
Trickster characters can also get +6 weapons of anything that you find that is +5 due to the Arcana 1 Trick, which can be fun.
It even works for Belts, Amulets & Headbands!
@@cRPGBro is improved arcana trick and one more worth it,or only invest in lev1 arcana?
I know I'm a bit late to the video but I want still mention "For the King" yes, it is a competence Bonus but it is for attack and damage as well. I almost always have two cavaliers in my playtrough with at least +12 Charisma. Since most fights last only 3 rounds anyway the short duration isn't a problem at all. Even a 9lvl disciple of the pike becomes a really good ranged fighter. (It is still most usefull on opening charges)
Another thing is arcane (eldrich) accuracy, esspecially if they fix the mighty advisor. (dimension strike is still more usefull in most cases but it needs 9 level instead of 3)
All in all a really good video. With 2 sources I've overlooked so far.
Thank you for these tips. There are certainly more good sources of + AB that can be found besides the one mentioned here, as the game mechanics are pretty deep and many classes have unique features.
Cavalier for example as you mentioned is certainly a very strong class, I really like the pet + high BAB + mounted bonuses combo some of the archetype can give you.
Smite evil + smite chaos + mark of justice all stack. So a paladin + HK with another support paladin will end up getting +36 AB and AC. Absolutely bonkers.
Just got into these type of games with Divinity 2 and Wotr. I hate that I miss even if the enemy is literally right in front of you, sometimes even without any spells in effect hahaha.
Yeah, unlike action games it can happen, hah!
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Thank you as always!
Hope the video helps you, stacking AB will certainly enhance your gameplay by a lot, and killing tough enemies on Unfair in a single round feels great!
@@cRPGBro I was able to finish game on Hard with lichs. Mostly because of strong level 10 spells. And I never though that cleric can provide such powerful buff stuffs. Domain abilities are so unique and powerful.
@@NguyenTuanAnh-bz5xu Yep, Domains alone can make a massive difference and really help your AB hit insane levels so that even Unfair enemies cannot stand against you.
My first run was also Lich, and I must also say the big spells, especially Negative Eruption for massive damage + heal carried my party through endgame!
Thanks a lot! I learned a ton of new things. Now please tell me how to deal with concealment?
True Seeing Communal is the simplest way.
However, it only helps with Concealment sources that are from Illusion (most common ones are).
For enemies with other sources of Concealment, this is when the Echolocation buff comes into play, and also the Blind Fight feat.
Echolocation can be cast on other characters through either Alchemist with Infusion or Brown Fur Transmuter, otherwise it is a Personal only buff that Alchemists, Bards, Skalds, Sorcerers & Wizards get, some Mythic Paths too like Azata & Aeon.
Is hampering hex increased by cacke ? If not, it lasts just 1...
The Metal curse seems insane. I already made Camellia a witch so i can get protective and fortune faster and since I don't want to respec, I want to make a shaman mercenary.
I was thinking of the wildland shaman. What would you suggest, and how would you build him, for maximum effectiveness ?
Hampering Hex on a save is indeed just one round, but the truth is one round is enough to kill most bosses later on even on Unfair, I'll soon post a video where I kill Deskari in just 1 round, using the party you see in this video.
Add brown fur transmuter for more stat increase or maybe some buffs you can't get otherwise
Indeed, with Brown Fur you can get a lot more. I wanted to focus mostly on story members so I had to be a Skald myself.
Luck, morale bonuses... Which types do stack? I always was confused about it, I can't find it very clear the descriptions
Hi there, I cover it all in by Buff Stacking Guide here: th-cam.com/video/fmO5ENUIi1g/w-d-xo.html
Usually, buffs of the same TYPE will not stack, besides Dodge & Untyped.
You chose Destructive domain on Sosiel for the aura that confirms all crit hits ? Does it's morale bonus on damage stack with everything else ?
Destructive was chosen mostly for the extra morale damage, as the highest we can get usually is +4 from Heroic Invocation, while Destruction Domain aura gives up to +10, so +6 over that.
It also works for the enemies though, but it doesn't really matter because we can kill bosses way faster than they can damage us.
Do you planing make video how build Sosiel?
I have some questions regarding certain game mechanics:
If I have greater invisibility spell and I attack, I always attack the target flat footed ? The only time where this is not the case is when the target has uncanny dodge ?
If the target has true seeing; mirror image/displacement/blur are useless ?
If the target has true seeing and I attack him while having greater invisibility, do I still attack him flat footed ?
What's the deal with foresight ?
How do I best protect myself vs greater dispel from enemies ?
How do I increase the chances of my greater dispel working on better/more of the enemie's buffs ?
1. Greater Invis will make all your attacks count as sneaks and the enemy as flat footed, however, it will not work if they have True Seeing as that will bypass Greater Invis effect.
2. Foresight is a great spell that not only gives +2 AC but also lets you become immune to flat flooted, and sneak attacks as well.
3. The easiest way to protect yourself against dispelling enemies is to kill them as fast as possible, especially with ranged characters that have high Initiative.
4. To increase your chances of dispelling enemies, you need to increase your Caster Level, although in most cases this will be restricted to merged Lich & Angel. You can also use the Slayer/Rogue ability called Dispelling Attacks, that makes every single one of your sneak attacks also attempt to dispel a single effect on the enemy based on the Slayer/Rogue class level as CL, so a level 12 Woljif would count as a Level 12 Wizard for dispelling purposes, meaning you'd roll 12+ d20 to attempt to dispel the enemy.
I've followed your mounted cavalier build, plus all the companion builds yet I've failed to be able to complete Chorussina and (at level 10) Devarra tower encounters; characters were buffed entirely, power attacks off, and glitterdust/sosiel's true seeing were used. What is the problem? (MC, Seelah, Wenduag, Nenio, Greybor, Sosiel) If I'm following the tacs and builds I was expecting to be able to do this on Core.
I actually find Chorussina (if you let her fully power up instead of summoning the demon) to be one of the toughest battles in the game.
I find the key to defeating her is to send a pet wall for tanking (besides being fully buffed to the MAX), and using Evil Eye to sharply reduce her AC or Saves.
If you lower her saves, then also cast Pernicious Poison and go for Stinking Cloud (while your party is fully protected by Delay Poison Communal).
Dispelling her can work, but it's a bit tricky since at that point you can only dispell ONE effect per Dispel cast.
Devarra should certainly be doable when fully prebuffed.
I have a video of her on Unfair here: th-cam.com/video/ShTH23Z4MaY/w-d-xo.html
Is your main character capable of Hexes? They really make a massive difference, especially Extended Fortune & Protective Luck!
I think shatter defense is missing, but I am not sure.
THANKs!
You're welcome!
Glad to hear this guide has been useful to you, Pathfinder really becomes a new experience once you know what to do.
great video, i have some questions, for skald what's the stats spread you did, and what feats you took ?.
ps: sorry about my English not my first language
For my Skald, I went with Dual Wielding Scimitars so I picked the dual wielding feats but invested in DEX only enough for them (so 19) while the rest I dumped into STR.
You can just go DEX with Finesse + Mythic Finesse, I just kinda hate the DEX feat tax.
In my Angel run I went with a Skald merc and specced him into dual wielding throwing axes, that was fun as well.
@@cRPGBro thanks bro
They fixed on update, like greater magic weapon with it's counter part magical vestment doesn't get the additional +5 but just make it a max of +5 total. Can you check your old saves if what I say is true? I just played just last month, I'm really late while I bought this on release jahaha
Magical Vestment was changed not to work on robes/unarmored anymore.
As for Greater Magic Weapon, I have just tested it and Seelah was still making a +2 Sword into +5 with just 17 CL.
@@cRPGBro so it only works on medium armors and full plates?
One of the things I don't like in games is how stacking gets out of control. Sure you can do amazing stacks but you're spending half an hour buffing before fights to get a good stack
That is true for D&D 3.5 and Pathfinder which is basically D&D 3.75
Prebuffing is the name of the game, at least on Core+
Wrath at least lets most buffs last for 24h, although that's not enough for travelling between most map areas.
Not just that but it's broken for spells like greater magic weapon and magical vestment since it goes beyond +5 unlike in tabletop. It really should really be patched out imo.
I know I'm late to the discussion, but I agree with you completely. If they're not going to rewrite the rules from the pen and paper RPG, they should build a feature that lets you select all of the buffs and then cast them automatically for you. So you pick Bull's Strength for your character once and set an option "cast automatically when entering a new area", and you never have to manually select it or sit through the animation again.
Lol. I have been reading it wrong. I have been buffing enemies with madness domain and mark of justice instead of picking it on my own teammates. Still it did not matter, but maybe should not have buffed Deskari at the end. That fight was rough.
Buffing enemies with Visions of Madness is actually powerful as well because of the way it works.
It will buff one of three stats, and then REDUCE the other two by the same amount, so if you for example, buff Deskari's skill points (which doesn't matter), he'll get up to -10 to both AB and Saves!
As for Mark of Justice, you should definitely be casting it ON the enemy! That's how you get the buff applied to your party members.
@@cRPGBro ah I see. Thanks for explaining.
I'm stuck at something and I really need your help.
I want to make a shaman mercenary but i'm stuck at exactly how to make her.
My party is mostly melee: Sword Saint, Paladin with pet, Cleric with pet, Fur transmuter, Skald dual wielding throwing axes and I want a hexer. I would go with Ember but I want metal curse and creeping doom. I can't use Camellia since I did a different build. I will go second spirit nature and she will have a pet at lvl 16. How should I build her ? I can go 1 lvl fighter and get proficienties for everything. Should I focus her on some damage spells, get her archery feats, dual wield dagger on her and have her ride the pet ? I could go str based and get her another weapon. What do you recommend for my party setup ?
I would rather go for Martial Proficiency feat to get prof with most weapons instead of getting 1 level of Fighter because that delays spellcasting progression and also hexes, unless you are already high level.
It depends on what you want really. You can focus on STR not to bother with the DEX feats and use a reach weapon + Enlarge to safely attack from the back and behind pets/the other characters.
Depending on the weapon, you can also bypass the martial feat and go with a background that gives you proficiency in the weapon you want, such as Shackles Corsair for Scimitar.
Archery also works just fine as you don't have a ranged archer in that party I believe so that's someone to equip the good bows you find.
You can also go dual wield with Kukris, Daggers or Shortswords.
For my Camellia in particular, I prefer to have her as a buffer with Greater Enduring Spells & debuffer with Hexes, but she can also decently contribute in melee.
You can have your Shaman ride the pet, the only problem is Nature only really gives a pet at level 16+ so that's pretty late game.
@@cRPGBro i'll go 1 lvl in rowdy and then shadow shaman. I'll go with the bow route but pick up outflank, get the goddess that gives glaive favourite weapon and use the reach one when it's convenient and the bow when it's not.
@@cRPGBro You are right, there is the hunter that gives bow and shortbow proficiency, and seeing as I don't have any bow user, she will have to do. What do you think of the shadow shaman archetype, how can I get consistent sneak attacks as ranged ?
@@MosCraciun777 feat that allows ranged to respond with AOO, feats that increase AOO threat range.
I thought Arueshaelae gets +10 since demons of magic is already selected twice before we get her
Yep, you are correct, it should be +10 at level 20 so +5 for the party.
Where is that yellow/gold aura coming from?
Clemency of Shadows Ring for +1 Attack of Opportunity to all party members inside the aura and stagger on AoOs.
It's a very powerful ring, one of the best in the game, that you can find from a Crusade Relic.
I talk about it here:
th-cam.com/video/UDU0uSySrMo/w-d-xo.html
@@cRPGBro Perfect timing actually, am now level 11 and was wondering what heck to do with all these relics. Thanks for the tips. My mc is a cleric ecclesitheurge and honestly this video really opened my eyes to domains, they're insanely powerful. I started with nobility and protection but community and madness is almost required for that sweet sweet AB lol def need to pick those up.
@@carl7018 Glad it was useful to you.
And Animal Domain is also amazing!
Unless you don't like pets, but it's hard to deny they are a massive increase in power for any party.
@@cRPGBro yeah I did not know that you can pick the impossible domain ability multiple times as a cleric before this video. I will probably get a pet for my cleric, as it provides damage since my cleric is full support, and to help out lans wolf and eventually camellia's pet from extra nature spirit for quite the melee party that can also trip enemies.
@@carl7018 That's very wise, pets can be extremely powerful in Wrath!
I have a pet guide here:
th-cam.com/video/GHlSyWhMhyA/w-d-xo.html
Inspiring command is bugged, doesn't it? When I cast it, seems that my comrades don't want to be inspired and I just lose the casts for nothing
Inspiring Command is bugged at the moment to be blocked by Mind Affecting immunity despite being a beneficial buff, so if you are an Angel with Improved Halo at Rank 7 or a Lich with Blessing of Unlife/after transformation.
Well these are normal stats, not like other youtubers show 65-70 strength!???? Where do they get so from? Without cheats
For AB sources, I have this updated video: th-cam.com/video/omfTstdpBdw/w-d-xo.html
For how to Stack OTHER Stats, with multiple sources as well, please check: th-cam.com/video/fmO5ENUIi1g/w-d-xo.html
So a skald gives +8 ab (6 competence, +2 from item), 6 ab and 1x mutiplier. Initially I was thinking for getting Arueshaelae but the skald seems better.
What kind of skald would work better for my party, a ranged one, dual wielding or dual wielding with sword ?
SS trickster main, paladin with a pet, sosiel with pet, fur transmuter, widland shaman if it has a pet and the last slot I would like an archer. What do you suggest for my party, between Arueshalae and a mercenary skald ?
For a Trickster party, I suggest going with a dual wielding Skald that has a high crit range weapon so either Scimitars or Kukris for example. That's because with Trickster, the more attacks you have, the better (for whole party).
If you already have too many characters in the frontline, dual wielding throwing axes also works great!
Aru can certainly be good but I vastly prefer Lann with a bow or Wenduag with dual axes for ranged purposes, mostly Wenduag.
@@cRPGBro If you wore to make a lvl 10 mercenary skald with dual wielding axes, what would be the optimal build ? I don't understand certain mechanics: does outflank work with ranged ? Is snap shot any good ? What stats would you start with and what feats/mythic ones would you take ?
@@MosCraciun777 Outflank does not work with ranged, only melee.
You can fully focus on DEX if you want (Throwing Axes use DEX for AB) and leave STR at a decent amount on character creation such as 14.
You can also get Finesse + Mythic Weapon Finesse to make the damage scale from DEX, but the normal Finesse feat doesn't do anything, it's just a prerequisite since the axes already use DEX for AB.
I wouldn't really bother with the Snap Shot line because it takes a lot of feats before you start seeing actual results from it.
I would definitely take:
1. The dual wielding feats
2. Point Blank + Precise like all ranged builds
3. Rapid Shot for an extra attack with Mythic Rapid Shot to remove the penalty
4. Improved Critical Mythic
5. Cleaving Shot & Distracting Shots, Ranging Shots can be decent as well and The Bigger they are as mythic ones.
I suggest getting Cleaving Shot as your first mythic ability, and then either Improved Critical Mythic or Mythic Rapid Shot as first mythic feat.
@@cRPGBro Mythic finesse no longer works with throwing as of the new 1.10 patch. Shouldn't i get first unlimited rage ?I'll go 14 str 16 dex 14 cha.
@@cRPGBro I don't get it, doesn't limitless rage give you...limitless rage, or is the inspire rage in another category ?
Bruh, i really don't know how can you win the game without having Cleric in your party lol.
Yep, Clerics make a massive difference, although I'd say they are only really a must on Hard+ Unfair.
They certainly help on some Core battles too, though!
It is possible, but only if you play solo and outlevel everything...
but hexes last for a single round...?
Hi there, both Fortune Hex & Protective Luck can be extended indefinitely and also out of battle by just using Chant or Cackle.
Both also last up to 3 rounds by default as you increase in class levels, at 8 & 16.
You can also extend Evil Eye duration with Chant or Cackle via a move action during battle.