08:35 slight verbal typo - obviously meant to say that all the stock probes are too BIG edit: also at 05:37 I said v1 instead of v2 - v1 was a jet-powered craft, not a rocket
That always interested me. A lot of aircraft from WWII were converted into civilian platforms like airliners, water bombers, etc. It’s also crazy to think that nuclear bombs almost got the same treatment with the development of the Orion Drive
@@MattLowneIt's an excellent video, for sure! Even during the cold war, the American Minuteman also paved the way for spaceflight, after being used - or threatened to be used - to deliver more destructive payloads
OMG Matt! You brought an ear to ear smile to my face with that song! I inherited some old vinyl records from my father years ago and one of them was "That Was The Year That Was" from Tom Lehrer 1965. The Wernher Von Braun song is #6 on the B side. Thank you for that bro!
Yeah, I messed up and said V1 when I meant V2. V1 is of course a jet-powered aircraft, often called the doodlebug in the UK. My gandmother's friend was sadly killed by one during the war.
I've built one with vanilla parts before. And yes, it flies. The NCS adapter makes for a pretty good bottom part, above that just regular Mk1 parts, another NCS adapter above it and a small cone at the top. And what you mean, the rocket isn't realistic? Looks perfectly capable of sending belgian reporters and their dogs to the moon!
Your storytelling in the start of this is actually really good! You could have started just getting into the mod, you could have started with the V2 itself. But you didn't. You chose to take somrthing in the stock game that any of us can see and let that be your entry point into the topic. It's small, but really awesome and an effective way to combine the story and game in a deeper and more mraningful way. Very good video!
IIRC, there was a second-generation of the V2 (A4) called the A9 and a booster called the A10. The A9'/A10 was meant to be used against the United States but was never completed. Interestingly, it had an alternate upper stage, a *rocket plane* called the A9V. The A9 became the US-built Jupiter and the A9V the Bell X1 rocketplane, although they were never used in the way von Braun envisaged or dreamed. I read an alternate history story where Magnus von Braun, Werner's kid brother, defected to the US by stealing the prototype A9V and performing the first crewed suborbital trans-Atlantic spaceflight, landing at New York's naval air station. So, mod creators, if you want, please add the A10 and A9V to the mod pack so we could do a Dieselpunk first space flight.
The Bell X-1 rocket plane was a completely indigenious US design, started in 1943, had had nothing to do with any German developments. The Jupiter/Redstone was a direct descendant of the A4 rocket though, designed by members of A4 design team and tweaked with better US materials and structural design to higher performance. The subsequent Jupiter IRBM had little left in common with the technology of the A4 and had a far more advanced engine and structural design which pushed it to a range of over 2500 km. The German A9 remained a paper project (the A9-A10 combination even more so). The A9 would have been a somewhat larger winged version of the A4, not a rocket plane. The wings would, according to the design team, have enabled ti to skip of the upper atmosphere and so greatly improve its range, but such a missile/glider/skipper has never been built up to this day and it is extremely doubtful whether the concept would have worked in practice.
With the right mods, an EVA intercept is actually pretty easy. You need something to allow you to target the target and something to accurately display prograde/retrograde/etc.
Their accuracy was pretty awful, plus they didn't really understand re-entry and lost a lot on the way down. Any weapon that kills more people making it than in use, is a bit on the dreadful side. In some ways it did win the war though. So much of Germany's resources went into making it, they couldn't keep up with tanks, planes, and things that actually worked.
Excellent tidbit of history about that early design of Goddard's and why it wouldnt work. Best part of the video and it isnt behind a lot of faff. And of course, the rest of the video's great and concise too. 10/10
Another interesting early rocket was never actually built, in 1929 Fritz Lang persuaded Hermann Oberth to build a rocket to promote his film Frau im Mond. Didn't happen because Oberth had a bit of a breakdown, and the project ended up being taken on by some amateurs (the Verein für Raumschiffahrt), including a young, pre-SS Werner Von Braun.
A similar mod to this I enjoyed was Beale's Taerobee mod which included a some stockalike early rockets and aircraft like the Aerobee, Bumper (V-2) and X-1 Aircraft
interestingly the V2 didnt have aerodynamic control surfaces but used thrist verctoring. However, the engine did not gimbal itself. The rocket had graphite fins inside the exhaust that would redirect it
One should keep in mind that the bumper project was not a civilian research project but a military one to investigate new techniques for use in military missiles, such as staging, and getting data from very high speed and attitude operation for subsequent long ranged ballistic missile develoment.
The problem with the pendulum rocket is that the impulse is conserved and the mass is sluggish. The center of mass (the fuel) wants to stay at front of the motion. That is also the reason darts and arrows have the center of mass at the tip. It is easy to visualize: Gravity is pulling things down right? So the center of mass is stable at the lowest point of the force vector. Now push a rocket from below to counteract gravity. The force vector is pointing upwards and the most stable point is at the top of the vector that means the tip of the rocket.
kerbin and kerbol are so small and easy. thanks to rss/ro i enjoy every televised spacex launch with the telemetry they publish, which is almost identical to the one used in the game.
I'd definitely reccomend trying out the Bluedog Design Bureau + JNSQ combo. It gives you all kinds of historically accurate parts (like over 1000, from every us launch vehicle imaginable) while still being pretty stockalike in terms of the parts being modular / swappable. JNSQ in particular gives a huge remaster to all the stock planets
There is one thing that kinda has engines on the front - the 9k121 Vikhr missile (a rocket!) check it out, it's quite interesting! The missile freaking spins, and still can turn and do all the exploding, and it's a beam riding missile - honestly, I got no idea how it can do all that AND SPIN
Goddard flew his rocket 1926, almost hundred years after we have SpaceX doing seemingly impossible things with Starship, human ingenuity is a wonderful thing!
I'm actually interested in you making more videos on historical weapons like the V2 I'd love a video on making a KSP replica of the V1 Flying bomb or the American Minuteman ICBM
I just wish I'd been in the room the first time they were sitting around trying to determine what to put on top of a rocket and someone said, "Why not put another rocket on it?" And everyone was like, "what? Why? Are you crazy?" And then someone sat back, stroked their chin and was like, "no no, that...could be good." Honestly, rockets on rockets sounds like a meme if you think about it 😂
i really wish that something like this was the starter tech for KSP career mode, you would only need to do 1 or 2 launches to get government approval to fund an actual space program
I rarely comment on videos, but I really enjoyed this one. Something about real-world history paired with KSP was very satisfying to watch in a short amount of time. If possible, can you make more mod videos covering aspects of history and KSP?
The mod missed an opportunity to include the A9 and A10 parts. Though never built because germany lost the war before building any (thank god), they would have made a nice next tier up from the A4 parts for KSP.
Oy. Someone made another. I never made the little probe thing. Just did the "Wernher's Old Stuff" and some of his pipe dream ideas. But my mod looked better :D
What happened to the KSP forums!!! I’m trying to get more information on the community tech tree because it’s awesome but I’m so lost with it but the forum thread doesn’t load, nor do any other threads!
My existence is due the V2, kind off. In 1939 my 9 year old grandmother was evacuated from London to live with distant family in Chester. When in 44 a V2 destroyed the family home and killed her father the rest of the family moved up and never when back. My Grandfather was in the same class and they got married when they where 21 (for a tax brake). If that v2 hadn’t of force them to move and stay moved after the war it’s unlikely they would have married. I’m not saying the V2 was a good thing, the suffering at Mittelwerk alone was appalling. BTW they are both alive and 94, although very ill it’s seem insane that the v2 and starship are in the same life time.
been wondering the same thing. i love how clean it looks but cant seem to find a forum post or anything. Closest I found is something called HUD replacer but im almost certain its just a framework mod and not an actual config.
Bumper was definitely not the first 2 stage rocket... but presumably the first 2 stage to go to space. PS Wikipedia says it was the "first large 2 stage rocket" which is weasel words by wikipedia standards.
Hey matt, been waiting for a new vid to tell you my birthday was the other day! Im 14 now and persuing my flihht career. Im going to travel to london hopefully soon (:
Hey matt, have you encountered a problem with ckan and the mods it installs and the controls in ksp? I installed astronomers visual pack, beyond juul, and mech jeb and now i cannot use controls for controlling thrusters and stuff now. Have you had that problem?
08:35 slight verbal typo - obviously meant to say that all the stock probes are too BIG
edit: also at 05:37 I said v1 instead of v2 - v1 was a jet-powered craft, not a rocket
hey
i forgot that this was a members vid
lol
UPSIDE DOWN ROCKETS MENTIONED?
You have my attention.
Holy Australia
Yes! Also when are you finally continuing Coming Home Redux?
Australian
Oh hi… OH HES ALIVE
I think you did a good job of keeping it as light as it could be without ignoring the serious matters, Matt.
Well the V2 was designed to kill, it's how most rocket programs got their start
Yeah unfortunately rocketry has dark beginnings but it’s part of our history. Just goes to show some dark things can be turned into good things.
You could say it was designed to ULTRAKILL…
That always interested me. A lot of aircraft from WWII were converted into civilian platforms like airliners, water bombers, etc. It’s also crazy to think that nuclear bombs almost got the same treatment with the development of the Orion Drive
Yes, I dedicated a significant portion of this video to that..
@@MattLowneIt's an excellent video, for sure! Even during the cold war, the American Minuteman also paved the way for spaceflight, after being used - or threatened to be used - to deliver more destructive payloads
OMG Matt! You brought an ear to ear smile to my face with that song! I inherited some old vinyl records from my father years ago and one of them was "That Was The Year That Was" from Tom Lehrer 1965. The Wernher Von Braun song is #6 on the B side. Thank you for that bro!
It's a slightly strange thought, that someone could very well show Professor Lehrer this video, almost 60 years after he recorded that.
“Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?
That's not my department" says Wernher von Braun
And the chinese
@@michagrill9432 Ah, another person who is uneducated
@@HowIsAsh they just let their spent stages come down uncontrolled. It happened dozens of times rhar hypergolic fuel tanks landed in villages
5:37 the V1 wasn’t the first version of the V2, it was a unmanned aircraft basically with a pulsejet
It's basically the world's first long range missile, though unguided.
@nsr-ints it kinda was guided.
After a set time, the elevator went down, and before that, it was stabilized with a gyro
He just said it wrong, he meant V2 there
Yeah, I messed up and said V1 when I meant V2. V1 is of course a jet-powered aircraft, often called the doodlebug in the UK. My gandmother's friend was sadly killed by one during the war.
“Swords beaten into plowshares” perfectly describes the V2 and its progeny.
And then back into swords.
@@jdotozand then back to plowshares
I've built one with vanilla parts before.
And yes, it flies.
The NCS adapter makes for a pretty good bottom part, above that just regular Mk1 parts, another NCS adapter above it and a small cone at the top.
And what you mean, the rocket isn't realistic? Looks perfectly capable of sending belgian reporters and their dogs to the moon!
Not the von Braun song hahahaha, awesome
I was so happy to meet you at Space Creator Day 2024 :)
Your storytelling in the start of this is actually really good! You could have started just getting into the mod, you could have started with the V2 itself. But you didn't. You chose to take somrthing in the stock game that any of us can see and let that be your entry point into the topic. It's small, but really awesome and an effective way to combine the story and game in a deeper and more mraningful way.
Very good video!
The song was stuck in my head during half the video and it actually playing in the end was what I needed :D
IIRC, there was a second-generation of the V2 (A4) called the A9 and a booster called the A10. The A9'/A10 was meant to be used against the United States but was never completed. Interestingly, it had an alternate upper stage, a *rocket plane* called the A9V. The A9 became the US-built Jupiter and the A9V the Bell X1 rocketplane, although they were never used in the way von Braun envisaged or dreamed.
I read an alternate history story where Magnus von Braun, Werner's kid brother, defected to the US by stealing the prototype A9V and performing the first crewed suborbital trans-Atlantic spaceflight, landing at New York's naval air station. So, mod creators, if you want, please add the A10 and A9V to the mod pack so we could do a Dieselpunk first space flight.
A10? Reminds me if something.
There was an old mod called Wernher's Old Stuff which adds all the weird concept rockets but I don't know if it's still compatible for 1.12
The Bell X-1 rocket plane was a completely indigenious US design, started in 1943, had had nothing to do with any German developments.
The Jupiter/Redstone was a direct descendant of the A4 rocket though, designed by members of A4 design team and tweaked with better US materials and structural design to higher performance. The subsequent Jupiter IRBM had little left in common with the technology of the A4 and had a far more advanced engine and structural design which pushed it to a range of over 2500 km.
The German A9 remained a paper project (the A9-A10 combination even more so). The A9 would have been a somewhat larger winged version of the A4, not a rocket plane. The wings would, according to the design team, have enabled ti to skip of the upper atmosphere and so greatly improve its range, but such a missile/glider/skipper has never been built up to this day and it is extremely doubtful whether the concept would have worked in practice.
There is an original V2 rocket on display in the imperial war museum in London. Its quite big
You know it’s a good day when Matt posts a vid
Damn i thought we were getting a RP-1 reborn playthrough :( I feel like that's a lot of great content matt is missing out on
That is one of the greatest mysteries of the universe.
That song was so funny.
With the right mods, an EVA intercept is actually pretty easy. You need something to allow you to target the target and something to accurately display prograde/retrograde/etc.
No prob-core, a mistake Werner von Braun made several times in his illustrious career 😅
For better or worse, Matt, most postwar rocket science was developed around delivering nuclear warheads.
Just don't hit London!
Haha, actually more often than not the V2 missed!
@@josephlloyd9542 it wasn't Von Braun's department 🤷♂
Their accuracy was pretty awful, plus they didn't really understand re-entry and lost a lot on the way down. Any weapon that kills more people making it than in use, is a bit on the dreadful side. In some ways it did win the war though. So much of Germany's resources went into making it, they couldn't keep up with tanks, planes, and things that actually worked.
V2 ultrakill
Excellent tidbit of history about that early design of Goddard's and why it wouldnt work. Best part of the video and it isnt behind a lot of faff. And of course, the rest of the video's great and concise too. 10/10
Thats a good easter egg
11:18 - Me, attention distracted: "wtf did Matt just say?"
ooooh. "INNER CORES"
Another interesting early rocket was never actually built, in 1929 Fritz Lang persuaded Hermann Oberth to build a rocket to promote his film Frau im Mond. Didn't happen because Oberth had a bit of a breakdown, and the project ended up being taken on by some amateurs (the Verein für Raumschiffahrt), including a young, pre-SS Werner Von Braun.
next stop, matt is gonna build the v2 in realism overhaul
I had realism overhaul config for my V2 mod.
@@dogmaticpyrrhonist543 sick, i have always custom built them, but they never look exactly right. ill have to check it out
this is the first youtube video in a long time that's actually compelled me to open up KSP and play it
Ah yes rp 1
Absolute tune at the end. I'll have to look for it on Spotify.
Seeing a Kerbal riding a V2 is cursed
Edit:More technically, a very cursed A8 rocket
A similar mod to this I enjoyed was Beale's Taerobee mod which included a some stockalike early rockets and aircraft like the Aerobee, Bumper (V-2) and X-1 Aircraft
Now this is a history video I can watch without falling asleep!
interestingly the V2 didnt have aerodynamic control surfaces but used thrist verctoring.
However, the engine did not gimbal itself. The rocket had graphite fins inside the exhaust that would redirect it
One should keep in mind that the bumper project was not a civilian research project but a military one to investigate new techniques for use in military missiles, such as staging, and getting data from very high speed and attitude operation for subsequent long ranged ballistic missile develoment.
The problem with the pendulum rocket is that the impulse is conserved and the mass is sluggish. The center of mass (the fuel) wants to stay at front of the motion. That is also the reason darts and arrows have the center of mass at the tip. It is easy to visualize: Gravity is pulling things down right? So the center of mass is stable at the lowest point of the force vector. Now push a rocket from below to counteract gravity. The force vector is pointing upwards and the most stable point is at the top of the vector that means the tip of the rocket.
One of the best of your videos! I really like this style.
Matt will play with kerbalized v2 but refuses to play RSS
kerbin and kerbol are so small and easy. thanks to rss/ro i enjoy every televised spacex launch with the telemetry they publish, which is almost identical to the one used in the game.
I'd definitely reccomend trying out the Bluedog Design Bureau + JNSQ combo. It gives you all kinds of historically accurate parts (like over 1000, from every us launch vehicle imaginable) while still being pretty stockalike in terms of the parts being modular / swappable. JNSQ in particular gives a huge remaster to all the stock planets
Great ending. Big grin on my face now.
There is one thing that kinda has engines on the front - the 9k121 Vikhr missile (a rocket!) check it out, it's quite interesting!
The missile freaking spins, and still can turn and do all the exploding, and it's a beam riding missile - honestly, I got no idea how it can do all that AND SPIN
Goddard flew his rocket 1926, almost hundred years after we have SpaceX doing seemingly impossible things with Starship, human ingenuity is a wonderful thing!
I'm actually interested in you making more videos on historical weapons like the V2
I'd love a video on making a KSP replica of the V1 Flying bomb or the American Minuteman ICBM
I started playing ksp because of you, in fact, I just landed on the mun! thanks for getting me interested in ksp
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CNAR mod on its own: Peacetime usage.
CNAR mod with BD Armory: Intended Usage.
I just wish I'd been in the room the first time they were sitting around trying to determine what to put on top of a rocket and someone said, "Why not put another rocket on it?" And everyone was like, "what? Why? Are you crazy?" And then someone sat back, stroked their chin and was like, "no no, that...could be good."
Honestly, rockets on rockets sounds like a meme if you think about it 😂
gonna have to add this to my bluedog design bureau modpack
Oooh new upload
i really wish that something like this was the starter tech for KSP career mode, you would only need to do 1 or 2 launches to get government approval to fund an actual space program
I rarely comment on videos, but I really enjoyed this one. Something about real-world history paired with KSP was very satisfying to watch in a short amount of time. If possible, can you make more mod videos covering aspects of history and KSP?
16:22 why them trees so HUGE
A bunch of the early US V2 launches were at the White Sands Missile Range so the dessert airfield was appropriate
Bravo! Fantastic!
Could u so a starship ksp vid u haven’t done one in YEARS u could use that mod I’ve been seeing around of it so Pls 😊
Well handled.
Prosperity depends more on wanting what you have than having what you want.
V1, the ancestor, that were ashamed of.
each day we get closer to matt playing with Bluedog Design Bureau
This was an absolute fever dream to have sent to me
I hope you enjoyed! Sorry about it honestly being a bit unfinished lol
Wait, wait, wait, wait. You've NEVER SEEN THE PYRAMIDS? My world is shattered. Up is down, black is white, dogs purr and cats bark...
The dessert airfield? 🤔
Sounds delicious
The blue parrot drove by the hitchhiking mongoose.
So long as a person is capable of self-renewal they are a living being.
Matt sorted out his staging before launch, time to rejoice!
The mod missed an opportunity to include the A9 and A10 parts. Though never built because germany lost the war before building any (thank god), they would have made a nice next tier up from the A4 parts for KSP.
Oy. Someone made another. I never made the little probe thing. Just did the "Wernher's Old Stuff" and some of his pipe dream ideas. But my mod looked better :D
When will you use Parallax Continued?
Where did you get the model from?
What happened to the KSP forums!!! I’m trying to get more information on the community tech tree because it’s awesome but I’m so lost with it but the forum thread doesn’t load, nor do any other threads!
Its still down? It didnt load a few days ago, but i just thought it was a temporary issue. I hope it is not permanently gone...
Yeah it's down rn idk if links ain't working
How could you change the launchpad i just have normal launchpad option
you need the "Making History" DLC.
or you can just use the Kerbinside mod.
Thank you my friend
V2 actually had thrust vectoring, not just aerodynamic fin control.
09:30 - You are going to Germany? That's nice to hear! Are you going to make videos of your visit?
My existence is due the V2, kind off.
In 1939 my 9 year old grandmother was evacuated from London to live with distant family in Chester.
When in 44 a V2 destroyed the family home and killed her father the rest of the family moved up and never when back.
My Grandfather was in the same class and they got married when they where 21 (for a tax brake).
If that v2 hadn’t of force them to move and stay moved after the war it’s unlikely they would have married.
I’m not saying the V2 was a good thing, the suffering at Mittelwerk alone was appalling.
BTW they are both alive and 94, although very ill it’s seem insane that the v2 and starship are in the same life time.
There's been a few new updates to restock, might wanna check em out
*In Homer voice*
_Mmmmmm, dessert airfieelldd_
Matt hears you some engagement. Don't tell your wife. Lol
we were so close to rp 1
what mod are youi using to make the ui look less shit
been wondering the same thing.
i love how clean it looks but cant seem to find a forum post or anything. Closest I found is something called HUD replacer but im almost certain its just a framework mod and not an actual config.
I LOVE YOU MATT
Bumper was definitely not the first 2 stage rocket... but presumably the first 2 stage to go to space.
PS
Wikipedia says it was the "first large 2 stage rocket" which is weasel words by wikipedia standards.
Hey matt, been waiting for a new vid to tell you my birthday was the other day! Im 14 now and persuing my flihht career. Im going to travel to london hopefully soon (:
I sure hope Wernher Von Kerman enjoyed this blast to the past! 💀
Hey matt, have you encountered a problem with ckan and the mods it installs and the controls in ksp? I installed astronomers visual pack, beyond juul, and mech jeb and now i cannot use controls for controlling thrusters and stuff now. Have you had that problem?
i have a idea... build a emergency PC crasher rocket
Goodard actually build the first example of an australian rocket
Stick a tri adapter on top and run all three science experiment
Cool, i found the pyrimids by flyin my planes from the desert
Hey matt! Just an inquiry, i wanted to know if you have a list of all the mods you use for ksp1 somewhere? It would be mighty convenient
Mentions a rocket built upside down. The comment section. Go on Matt you know you want to. You can't resist it now you've said it!
Bill Kerman knows how to live.
That's not "Life on Laythe cont'd"
Does anyone know what mod is the ui in
Z-Theme
Matt question what was the mod for the probe core you put on the Capella?
Why did you coast and wait to start the second stage at the apogee rather than earlier?
It’s sad to see that most huge technical advancements in human history were made because of war
V2 was only the propaganda name given by Göbbels. The correct name of the V2 was A-4 (Aggregat 4).
If you're a rocket history nerd, you should give RP-1 a go. Yes, I mean RSS. No, I don't mean Rainbow Six Siege. You can build V2s in that.
Do a mission to Eve or another hard planet with lowest level tech tree parts!