One very important information overlooked for the video on the Sony a6400 : At 24 FPS it is a 6K resolution downsampled to 4K so the image quality is absolutely fantastic. It's like filming on a Full Frame 35mm camera in 4K
If Sony made a camera with the easy usability, flip screen, and ports of the 90D, we'd have the perfect sub $1,500 camera. The image quality on the Sony is far superior to the 90D. There are so many drawbacks with the a6400 though - I've read reviews saying the camera is almost "unusable even on a gimbal." To quote a popular B&H Photo critique of the z6400 "You can see the rolling shutter in static shots while your subject moves, and even when using it on a gimbal, you cannot escape it. If you try to post stabilize the footage, nothing but jello stabilized shots. It is absurd and essentially a waste of a camera release as I would have preferred them putting the IBIS in the camera and just call this the A6600 so we can all move on and get to filmmaking." Literally everything about the 90D is better except the image quality . . . as far as I can tell?
Awesome video man! Question for you... 90D + Canon Camera App (phone/tablet) - does it work in video mode? I cant find that info anywhere. I know it works in Photo mode but I cant find anything on video mode.
its nice to see 90D is so much talented that people doing its comparison with much more expensive new mirrorless technology bodies , it seems 90D is really a beast who giving tough comptition to mirrorless
7:30 I hate that this video was a victim of bad timing. Canon did add it later to both the 90D and EOS RP. I liked your review of the 90D. You were fair to a DSLR in a world where most consider DSLRs obsolete. Still, great job pimp. I was wanting to buy the 90D, but this review has me now considering the A6400.
Love your videos. I've been pouring over TH-cam trying to decide on my next camera which I will use mainly for my cycling TH-cam channel. Currently using the 80D. My choice is down to the 90D, EOS R and the new Sony a6600. Price isn't really a major factor. 80% of the use will be for video. I've got my list of pros and cons but what would be your recommendation? Again, thank for the time you put into your videos. They've been really helpful. And by the way, I've heard that a new firmware update just came out for the 90D that gives 24 fps. Cheers.
Holy cow! I’ve been watching your channel for literal years 🤯 I bought a giant anthem off of your content back in 2015 👍 If price isn’t a barrier I’d probably go with the EOS R. It keeps you in the canon eco system but opens up access to canons log profile plus allows for their new lenses. The 90d is also a big 4K upgrade over the 80d if you want to stick with a crop sensor body plus the 90d is the first DSLR I’ve ever really liked. Sony isn’t bad but there are a few hassles that would make me stick with canon.
The Everyday Dad Super helpful. Thanks! By the way, if you get a minute, shoot me a message on Instagram @Clintg37. Would love to stay in touch. We share a lot of the same interests, it sounds like. Cheers!
Everyday Dad, I love the energy you bring to your videos! What is your main go to camera right now? You have used Panasonic G5, Sony 6400, Canon R, and Nikon Z6 in the past and stated they these are your favorite camera. I think all the major brands are producing good cameras, hard to justify switching systems from what you are already invested in. Seems like a lot of Pros, are still staying with their DSLR's until there is a economic justification to switch to mirrorless.
Not sure about the 90D but all other Canons ship with the sharpness set to 0 in video and yes is soft, turn it up and the sharpness is very comparable. Still hate the Sony color on skin, he looks jaundice.
Everytime I look up the Sony footage for this camera it always so dark and gloomy? Although it’s a better camera I like bright and airy. Maybe the 90d is better for that?
I got the 90D. I want a camera that I can hold. I like that Sony has 120p with autofocus and better sharpness in 4K, but the 90D wins in the way that I can hold it confortably without having to squish my own hands into a tiny body.
The lack of 24fps has been an issue on other cameras, too. The DJI Mavic Mini, for instance, was originally derided for professional use because of its lack of 24fps and manual exposure and white balance controls. Like the 90D, this was "corrected" with a later firmware update. The lesson seems to have been learned by manufacturers, and I doubt we'll see many more instances of this oversight in future models.
Looking at sample 4k vs 1080 on the 90D in uncropped mode its not easy to see that much difference. Its kind of like not setting your desktop on your PC to the native resolution of you monitor. on the 90D the crop mode should be utilizing the center portion of the sensor only and grabbing all the data from each pixel side by side. To where the uncopped mode its grabbing data from pixels that are not next to each other because it cant use the entire sensor or it would technically be 8K video. Theoretically a lower MP sensor should give sharper uncropped 4k video. Even smartphones shoot video in crop mode by default on the already tiny sensor they have. You just don't have the option to change it (without a 3rd party app). On DSLR's they give the option to use the full sensor because of the interchangeable lenses and their respective focal lengths.
15 minutes later and he didn’t mention the slow motion capabilities.The Sony can shoot 1080p 120 fps with autofocus and sound but canon without autofocus and sound...
yeah that's too bad. a6300 from 2016 has 120fps with autofocus and sound...3 years later 90d still cant get it right. No autofocus, no sound and also very soft :/
In fact, Canon has given the 90D a 24fps via firmware update 🤣 but it's only on FHD resolution. Very nice comparation bro, I've just upgraded my 1100D to 90D, i love the battery so much ahahaha My thought was choose 6400 for video and 90D for photography.
24 FPS would have made me consider this sooooo badly, but I guess I will stick to my 80d, the a6600 sure looks good, but like you said, 80d bodies are easier to handle with photography and big lenses.
Canon: nice DPAF, Cheaper native lenses with nice feature (except expensive L series), overall cheaper body, Canon Crippling Hammer, CANON COLOR Sony: quick AF system, meh lvl native lenses which is cheap but have good GMaster lens(expensive), give the user the best experience (best slow motion with af, log profile, usb charging, unlimited recording and much more)
All I can say as a canon fanboy is, this is the most honest review ever. Sony is bad ass and I thought they would've ditched cameras by now as they did with some of their classics like the Sony walkman, Sony mini disc, Sony Trinatron tv and the laptop Sony veo. Credit where credits due, well done Sony you're kicking ass in the camera world.
Man I debated on cameras so much the last 3 months, ended up going with the 90d due to the fact I NEED a flip screen, other wise I would go with the Sony.
I looked at both of these before purchasing an X-T3, really glad I went the way I did. Wanted mirrorless with a headphone jack and with my student discount X-T3 fit the budget. Loving it so far.
I really wanted to upgrade to the XT3 but considering I would use it for vlogging, its a little too heavy with the 10-24mm So Im sticking to my A6300 + 10-18mm combo for now... I would love to upgrade but the A6400/A6600 are more or less like a sidegrade~
i like the skintone of canon over sony. im really into the speed of the autofocus from sony though... : < i have canon 80D and wondering if i should sell it and upgrade to 90D or to A6400..
But the Sigma 18-35 though... I really want to get a Sony, but you can't get the same performance of the best aps-c lens when adapted to the e-mount sadly. I'm waiting for an RF aps-c, and hopefully the ef-rf adapter will be better than the mc-11. If anything, Canon's next generation of cameras will have autofocus on par with Sony since they've almost done it in the 1dx3
You didn't mention the 1080p120 on the 90d or the bitrate differences for video....plus, might help to compare with iconic lenses rather than kit. I never liked the ef-s 18-135....fast focus, but otherwise slow non constant sperature and far from L glass territory.
EF-S 18-135 is too big and heavy compared to E 18-135. Plus it can't be mounted on a FF DSLR body like Sony's. In the EF-S territory, only 10-18, 24, 55-250 are worth buying.
Great comparison! I have to say Sony was a lot sharper and would be my choice for 4k video. When I shoot birds and animals, I want to see as much detail as possible.....but I don't usually shoot 4k. Just throwing out a random thought...I watched a photo biased review of the M6II. The reviewer had doubts about most of the M lenses being able to keep up with the bigger sensor. Watching this I started to wonder if any of the budget friendly efs glass could be lacking too.
Yeah the EFM lenses are ok but they aren’t the highest quality, I’m really surprised to see canon pushing the sensors there without the glass to back it up 🤷♂️
I' sure others pointed this out, but Canon seems to have softened on their firmware policy. They added 24P. They also have released updates to the AF system on the EOS R and RP, which significant improve AF. I think we can have higher hopes that Canon will continue to do this for current bodies. I can see why you thought otherwise though, it's more their norm to not do these things. For once they listened.
It does seem like the Sony has sharper videos and sometimes images in low light but I’m going to go with the 90D for everything else. Thanks for the video man these were my final options and I was struggling.
Which one is better for sports video recording? I know that Sony a6400 doesn’t have the 29 minute limit on it. Which is a feature I really need. But still trying to figure out which to buy.
I’m so interested in the 90D as a B-cam for weddings. I like the crop for extra reach at ceremonies and 4K with dpaf is nice. Makes me wonder about shooting in 25p and dropping frames. Any thoughts or experiences?
10:20 Color temperature on the canon seems off. Little too cool. What happened here? I mean sony's color science is getting better but Canon, generally, is known for a warm colors in photo and video. I mean just look at the two in the studio and then outdoors the cooler camera is now warmer. (User error?)
I haven't seen a single video from Casey Neistat uploaded in higher than 1080p, and he has 11,5 million subs.. in general most subbed channels on YT are in 1080p. so.. who cares.
Very short sighted 1. YT algorithm gives slight preference to videos that have the option of 4k and other larger formats. 2. Videos are forever, and in however many years it takes 4k and above will be the standard and FHD will be a size of the past. Future proofing is always good. 2.5 - Also for shorts and documentaries, especially on streaming platforms like Netflix it's a requirement. 4k gives you options to sell your work.
@@GavinClay if content sucks or gets outdated every year, no 4K is gonna future proof it. I saw a lot of channels grew up from zero to millions of subs in 1080p and tons of 4K channels that stay under 200K for years. It doesn't mean that YT don't recommend 4K more often, it means that their content is just not good enough. If you're serious about production then ofc go for 8K. Otherwise simple vlogs, reviews and other stuff no one cares. I myself watch everything in 720p, because quality of the talking face is the least important thing to me.
@@LordArioh I have made no mention of quality of content or Inferred that inferior content is made up for by resolution. Saying that you personally don't watch content in Full HD or seeing that creators can grow more substantially with only 1080p again proves the point. Years ago TH-cam did not support 1080p but now they do and a lot of creators switched from their old camera resolution to the new 1080p. How many content creators still upload in 480p or 720p only? Again, very short sighted.
@@GavinClay let's see, they say Peter McKinnon made over a million subs in one year, shooting with 1DX2. nope, more than a year uploads all in 1080p. Uploading now in 720 is harder than 4K, because most cameras hardly even support the format. If you wanna prove to yourself that you can splash extra cash on 4K video and editing gear and spend extra time editing and rendering stuff that most will watch in 720p and forget about it, you're welcome. For majority of content on YT it's not worth the hustle. All channels I mentioned grew significantly in a last few years when 4K was already a futureproofer. Braille Skateboarding even made millions subs uploading in 720p because they didn't have enough memory cards. To grow a channel it's all about how you sell it. Not resolution. In 2025 will you watch Peters video What's in my camera bag from 2018 because it's futureproofed with 4K? No. No one will.
Question...at 11:26 into the video, i.e. vlogging test, I noticed that the 90 d appeared much softer than the sony. Did the sony have a better lens or better focus? Could L glass improve the sharpness on the 90 d? What exactly were the settings on the 90 d in regards to focus? I know canons can be sharp when pressed with lens selection. Please help me to understand earthling....lol. As always keep up the good work and keep'em flying....
i want to buy a camera? advice needed! need your opinion over ( Sony A6400 VS Canon 90D) which one is the best in these 2 camera for vlogs , filmmaking, and small business intro videography as a bigenner? and which lens do you advice to buy? i live in Antwerpen, if you can find for me the link that i can buy from there the camera with lenz that is recommened by you , would be appreciate , thanking you
Good review, I may swap in my Canon 80D for the Sony having watched this! You may now already know but you can drop the Canon 90D down to 25fps by setting it to PAL instead of NTSC - its close-enough to 24fps for most not to notice. Hope that this helps!
@@josemendezfr that's brilliant news, just shows that despite in this video 'dad' saying "It'll never happen", Canon were obviously listening! Still tied between these two cameras though, I have the 80D at the moment and the only reason that I want to ditch it is because of video quality, it just doesn't give me that immaculately sharp image that other TH-camrs seem to have. In this comparison, the Sony clearly has the better quality sensor but the feature-set of the 90D make it very wantable!
a6600 same as a6400 but with stabilization, if better video quality is the priority it's a no-brainer. Canon is nice no doubt, but that picture is so clearly better on the Sony why pay more for Canon? And I can tell you the a6400 is a beautiful machine, you won't be disappointed.
90D supports PAL Color system 25fps, 50fps frame rates and Ntsc Color system 30fps and 60 fps frame rates. 24 fps is the film industry standard.. Canon decided to provide it only in their higher end eos cinema cameras..
Sharpnesswise 4k of the sony a6400 is wayyy sharper, I'm watching this on a 5k iMac (I mean it depends on the lens too, but this is what you get with a starter kit)! I mean the 90d is a great camera but wtf canon, why still dslr? Skin tones look ok to me on the sony, but it is nothing you can't fix in post.
I am in the unusual position of looking at buying both the Sony A6600 and Canon 90D. I prefer the Sony for video but I shoot Canon for sports stills and have a lot of Canon glass and the 90D is the best Canon DSLR for 4K video yet made, and will give me lens choices I don’t have on the Sony, especially at the long end (400-800mm) and specialty lenses such as shift and a long macro (180mm). I am curious - you imply that the A6400 is the best Sony and not the A6600. Why? Is that just because of price, or is there some other advantage the A6400 has that I am missing out on? For me, the headphone jack alone makes the A6600 a much more useful camera. Yeah, small DSLR’s like the 90D are the best feeling cameras in the hand, especially for a male. But the 24fps thing is a huge problem. I am in a PAL region, so shoot 25fps and there is no effective visual difference between 24 and 25. BUT, whenever doing anything artistic in a group, the group choice is always 24fps so only the Sony is eligible. Does Canon really want only Sony’s and Lumix on these low budget short film sets? Idiots. They think only amateurs buy the 90D and don’t realise a lot of pro’s buy cheaper cameras too and enthusiasts are more likely to want to go artistic and look for the 24 even though it is only 1% of the time. It is a standard for a reason BTW crop on a crop is brilliant. APS-C is the same as 35mm movie stock. A crop essentially gives us a 16mm option. 16mm has a cult following in film due to visual look as well as being perfect dof for documentary and longer reach for sport and wildlife, and to have both formats together is very desireable. MFT has that 16mm advantage but doesn’t have the ability to give us the ability to switch on a 35mm mode for creative reasons.
If you shoot 4k the Sony wins. It can generate in camera proxy files! That's a game changer, a feature only available on the very high end cams. And strange, but the a6400 looked so much sharper. At first, I thought it was the kit lenses, but now I think it's the Sony sampling from a 6k image. I don't think the Canon 90d does this.
I have an 80D and an A6300. Which of these two is more tempting to me? I have to give the nod to the a6400. More feature rich and better image quality at the end of the day. But both great.
The only thing I didn’t like about the 90d is no “All I” compression. It’s IPB. Granted I had to watch your video on a 4K monitor to see the compression artifacts, it’s still there and makes the eyes not look so in focus even though they are. I had to deal with this with the 6d mkii and it’s fine until you get about 4’ away from the camera, then the file looks funky. Still excited to get the EOS R on Black Friday though haha
William Ridenour the only thing I’d add to that is be careful with the apple monitors as they have built in sharpening on screen. I’d most definitely check on different monitors for sharpness, just like you should for color. I prefer using DNxHR over ProRes, but I mostly agree with the external recorder. In my case, I do a lot of location interviews for clients and the less gear I have to walk around with, the better. So mostly I’d recommend getting a camera that has good looking files in camera, instead of needing to add more expensive gear to a lesser camera just to achieve the same end goal. In my case, being responsible for the entire productions and needing the completed video the next day in most cases, I lean more toward gear that has as few crippled features as possible. Speed and quality are important.
Canon 90D did get a 24fps firmware update. Honestly for me, the a6400 looks more kinda kid's toy rather than something that I can bring on a professional event or shoots. Also, Canon colors are just way waaaay better than Sony. The AF tracks in a natural way, replicating the best possible precision manual racking look. Canon is far easy to use and the best part is, batteries last long. Moreover, the lens options (native as well as third party) are bang for the buck, Sony just runs short on this. Glad I picked up a 90D and not any Sony APS-C. IBIS doesn't even matter for my work, mostly my rig is on a tripod, monopod or a gimbal where anyways I gotta disable the in camera stabilization if any. My suggestion- If you wanna grow as a professional photographer or film maker, just pick up that 90D and you wont regret later on. Else if you want a casual use camera, with less to no professional use, pick any of cheaper ones. A6400 makes no sense, unless I'm a travel blogger who needs a nifty kit.
Canon 90D vs Sony a6400 Mainly for video works Really leaning towards the a6400 Thou I already have the 80D I think I cant used the Video from the 80D side by side with either of the 80D and a6400 because of the big difference in video quality. What do you guys think?
Clear winner would be the a6600 because of excellent ibis. BTW sony's proffession has always been video technology, If we compare 2 brands. So Canon or other photography brands can never overcome Sony's video performance i think.
I own the Sony a6400 and I can get some nice sports action shots with it. The scene selection allows you to choose the sports mode and you can get some nice images with no motion blur. Plus, the AF is so good that my friend's face was still in focus even as I bursted photos of him shooting a soccer ball. However, I had a weird problem where the ISO jumped really high suddenly, but it only happened in two photos and I turned it down before it could ruin more shots. I hope this helps.
Canon... all the features almost same 24fps is available on 90d... the battery life and weather sealing .. stabilization and far superior lens lineup.. and user friendly menu.. CANON for me is the winner..
I don’t understand how anyone goes with the Canon. Since DSLR is going to slowly fade away, how do you invest in an EF mount? Full disclosure: I shoot on an EOS R and A73, I prefer the Canon, ya know, cause I am crazy. Its just nicer overall.
Hey buddy, loving your shows. I'm thinking of splurging on the Canon 90D, now 24fps is available as a firmware update. Have you managed to test this yet? I'm looking to make interior design and interview projects for myself and some small businesses. Also, can you recommend a gimble for this camera - or do opt for the PANASONIC????
Ah man, the amount of videos I have been watching on this subject is insane. So first of all I got the iPhone 12 Pro Max as an upgrade to my 10 XR which I was using for video on my TH-cam channel. Then I saw people going crazy about the zv1 but realise the phone looked a bit puny. Then I saw the M50 and I was thinking that it looked better but dont like the battery time and it still looked a bit puny. So I started looking at the a6400 but realise it’s not a flip screen so that’s no good. Thought about getting the 80d but now deffo am getting the 90d
I want them both!!!! a few months ago I got the Sony a6400 with a Sigma 16mm f1.4 and i have been using it on a gimbal and it sure has a lot of features for video (I don't care about photos too much)...but I couldn't forget how much "fun" my 70d has been for 5 years or so- the touchscreen and menus...maybe I stayed with Canon too long! This comparison video is awesome...I can see that the a6400 is sharper in 4k than the 90d but nothing too bad. You got them side by side a few times. For the Vlog test, did you put the 90d in the cropped mode? Is this the one that would give the best quality? Thanks so much for the hard work! Your camera is the EOS R correct? is the R better in 4k than the a6400? Thanks!
Is it just me or what? I like the video on 90D more than A6400. Yeah, A6400 looks sharper, but it doesn’t look pleasing at all to me. 90D video looks way more cinematic to me. Color looks better on 90D too, especially your skintone in the studio light.
The problem with the sonys is.. they always seem to have some kind of green tint. which makes the skin looks "sick". no matter what camera somebody uses, i instantly can see which one was shot on a sony because of that. im sure its fixable.. but out of camera its strange.
90D will now have 24p so thats a bonus now
Wait are you actually flippin serious?
Random RimRock yes. It was released in late October
@@joeyweber6158thanks for your comment and the clarification man
So Every Day Dad is wrong here then lol
@@scorpa106 he was correct at the time of posting his video.
One very important information overlooked for the video on the Sony a6400 : At 24 FPS it is a 6K resolution downsampled to 4K so the image quality is absolutely fantastic. It's like filming on a Full Frame 35mm camera in 4K
If Sony made a camera with the easy usability, flip screen, and ports of the 90D, we'd have the perfect sub $1,500 camera. The image quality on the Sony is far superior to the 90D. There are so many drawbacks with the a6400 though - I've read reviews saying the camera is almost "unusable even on a gimbal." To quote a popular B&H Photo critique of the z6400 "You can see the rolling shutter in static shots while your subject moves, and even when using it on a gimbal, you cannot escape it. If you try to post stabilize the footage, nothing but jello stabilized shots. It is absurd and essentially a waste of a camera release as I would have preferred them putting the IBIS in the camera and just call this the A6600 so we can all move on and get to filmmaking."
Literally everything about the 90D is better except the image quality . . . as far as I can tell?
You did a great job covering these and it really helps show that there is so many similar features. Especially the audio preamps.
A6400 wins in sharpness department no doubt. (watching in 4K on a 4K Screen)
no contest
but... I have to say.. I know that canon lens: nice range... but sharp? nope
Yeah ofc it downscales 6k to 4k... It better win
It's what's putting me off getting the 90D over the a6400.
@@BrianHallmond He used lens that is not sharp at all on 90d, take a look how does the video looks like from 90d with something like sigma 18-35
Awesome video man! Question for you... 90D + Canon Camera App (phone/tablet) - does it work in video mode? I cant find that info anywhere. I know it works in Photo mode but I cant find anything on video mode.
Can't wait for your M6 Mark II review
Its the true competitor to the A6400 IMO
7:28 LOL nailed that prediction.
😂😂😭
its nice to see 90D is so much talented that people doing its comparison with much more expensive new mirrorless technology bodies , it seems 90D is really a beast who giving tough comptition to mirrorless
7:30 I hate that this video was a victim of bad timing. Canon did add it later to both the 90D and EOS RP. I liked your review of the 90D. You were fair to a DSLR in a world where most consider DSLRs obsolete. Still, great job pimp. I was wanting to buy the 90D, but this review has me now considering the A6400.
Love your videos. I've been pouring over TH-cam trying to decide on my next camera which I will use mainly for my cycling TH-cam channel. Currently using the 80D. My choice is down to the 90D, EOS R and the new Sony a6600. Price isn't really a major factor. 80% of the use will be for video. I've got my list of pros and cons but what would be your recommendation? Again, thank for the time you put into your videos. They've been really helpful. And by the way, I've heard that a new firmware update just came out for the 90D that gives 24 fps. Cheers.
Holy cow! I’ve been watching your channel for literal years 🤯 I bought a giant anthem off of your content back in 2015 👍
If price isn’t a barrier I’d probably go with the EOS R. It keeps you in the canon eco system but opens up access to canons log profile plus allows for their new lenses.
The 90d is also a big 4K upgrade over the 80d if you want to stick with a crop sensor body plus the 90d is the first DSLR I’ve ever really liked.
Sony isn’t bad but there are a few hassles that would make me stick with canon.
The Everyday Dad Super helpful. Thanks! By the way, if you get a minute, shoot me a message on Instagram @Clintg37. Would love to stay in touch. We share a lot of the same interests, it sounds like. Cheers!
Everyday Dad, I love the energy you bring to your videos! What is your main go to camera right now? You have used Panasonic G5, Sony 6400, Canon R, and Nikon Z6 in the past and stated they these are your favorite camera. I think all the major brands are producing good cameras, hard to justify switching systems from what you are already invested in. Seems like a lot of Pros, are still staying with their DSLR's until there is a economic justification to switch to mirrorless.
Not sure about the 90D but all other Canons ship with the sharpness set to 0 in video and yes is soft, turn it up and the sharpness is very comparable. Still hate the Sony color on skin, he looks jaundice.
@@avarmadillo These comments deserve waaaay more likes 😆
Everytime I look up the Sony footage for this camera it always so dark and gloomy? Although it’s a better camera I like bright and airy. Maybe the 90d is better for that?
You're definitely a canon user 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The rolling shutter on 6400 is so huge. You cannot move camera little bit faster because all vertical lines start to bend
I got the 90D. I want a camera that I can hold. I like that Sony has 120p with autofocus and better sharpness in 4K, but the 90D wins in the way that I can hold it confortably without having to squish my own hands into a tiny body.
Why wouldn’t you just get a cheap gimbal then?
The lack of 24fps has been an issue on other cameras, too. The DJI Mavic Mini, for instance, was originally derided for professional use because of its lack of 24fps and manual exposure and white balance controls. Like the 90D, this was "corrected" with a later firmware update. The lesson seems to have been learned by manufacturers, and I doubt we'll see many more instances of this oversight in future models.
Great review, both cameras seem pretty great for youtube!
Thanks so much! And yeah they are both pretty great but in different ways 👍
Looking at sample 4k vs 1080 on the 90D in uncropped mode its not easy
to see that much difference. Its kind of like not setting your desktop on your PC to the
native resolution of you monitor. on the 90D the crop mode should be
utilizing the center portion of the sensor only and grabbing all the
data from each pixel side by side. To where the uncopped mode its
grabbing data from pixels that are not next to each other because it
cant use the entire sensor or it would technically be 8K video.
Theoretically a lower MP sensor should give sharper uncropped 4k video.
Even smartphones shoot video in crop mode by default on the already tiny
sensor they have. You just don't have the option to change it (without a 3rd party app). On
DSLR's they give the option to use the full sensor because of the
interchangeable lenses and their respective focal lengths.
15 minutes later and he didn’t mention the slow motion capabilities.The Sony can shoot 1080p 120 fps with autofocus and sound but canon without autofocus and sound...
it's a big deal for many people. Canon always piss me off, but i have to work with their products xD
@@xXadambXx im moving to sony the second i get the funds
@@AayyMax the second? Time?
yeah that's too bad. a6300 from 2016 has 120fps with autofocus and sound...3 years later 90d still cant get it right. No autofocus, no sound and also very soft :/
@@xXadambXx maybe you shouldnt
Canon is very easy to use but Panasonic isn't too far behind. The 90d is interesting for sure. Thanks for the great video. Cheers
Oh yeah their app definitely makes their cameras pretty darn easy to use 👍
In fact, Canon has given the 90D a 24fps via firmware update 🤣 but it's only on FHD resolution. Very nice comparation bro, I've just upgraded my 1100D to 90D, i love the battery so much ahahaha
My thought was choose 6400 for video and 90D for photography.
Oh boi I was so disappointed to hear that the 90D doesn't have 24FPS but after reading the top comment, holy crap I'm definitely going for the 90D
Price and usable spects the 6400 has no competition.
Yeah about price we should compare 90 d with Sony a6600....
24 fps being added in update soon as well as on other models.
are you sure?
M Momin Dewan i have the camera and have it on mine
I been using gx7, wanted a 4k camera. Got the 6400, love it.
is canon 9d is a great camera
Mate I love the battery life of 90d as well which you didn’t talk about..
24 FPS would have made me consider this sooooo badly, but I guess I will stick to my 80d, the a6600 sure looks good, but like you said, 80d bodies are easier to handle with photography and big lenses.
This angle is nicer for shooting your videos, good job
Why the 90D 4k footage is blurry?
Canon: nice DPAF, Cheaper native lenses with nice feature (except expensive L series), overall cheaper body, Canon Crippling Hammer, CANON COLOR
Sony: quick AF system, meh lvl native lenses which is cheap but have good GMaster lens(expensive), give the user the best experience (best slow motion with af, log profile, usb charging, unlimited recording and much more)
In this video Sony colors look more natural. Canon oversturates reds.
well shooting in log makes no different
All I can say as a canon fanboy is, this is the most honest review ever.
Sony is bad ass and I thought they would've ditched cameras by now as they did with some of their classics like the Sony walkman, Sony mini disc, Sony Trinatron tv and the laptop Sony veo.
Credit where credits due, well done Sony you're kicking ass in the camera world.
Interesting you said that because they just stopped their Sony Vue TV this month too.
Man I debated on cameras so much the last 3 months, ended up going with the 90d due to the fact I NEED a flip screen, other wise I would go with the Sony.
@KRYPTO NITE whats an rp?
And how do you feel about your decision?
@@imeprezime1069 I love the camera, both are great just comes down to what features you want
Can’t go wrong with either! Great video
The point is no recording time limit video recording, last time I record 6 hours no stop!!!!!!!! 6 HOURS
Which camera?
Is wedding event good for the 90D?
Just got my 90d I’m hype!
I looked at both of these before purchasing an X-T3, really glad I went the way I did. Wanted mirrorless with a headphone jack and with my student discount X-T3 fit the budget. Loving it so far.
The xt3 is absolutely a fantastic little camera 👍
I really wanted to upgrade to the XT3 but considering I would use it for vlogging, its a little too heavy with the 10-24mm
So Im sticking to my A6300 + 10-18mm combo for now... I would love to upgrade but the A6400/A6600 are more or less like a sidegrade~
Both are out of this world excellent. I’d be interested in a comparison with really high end glass. 🔥
Hi bud. Another great video 👍🏻
Btw, my 200D/SL2 has an option for movie crop in the menu. Never tried it, but it’s there.
Ok awesome thanks! 🙏
What's that? I have the same camera ..
i like the skintone of canon over sony.
im really into the speed of the autofocus from sony though... : <
i have canon 80D and wondering if i should sell it and upgrade to 90D or to A6400..
But the Sigma 18-35 though... I really want to get a Sony, but you can't get the same performance of the best aps-c lens when adapted to the e-mount sadly.
I'm waiting for an RF aps-c, and hopefully the ef-rf adapter will be better than the mc-11.
If anything, Canon's next generation of cameras will have autofocus on par with Sony since they've almost done it in the 1dx3
Regarding lens ecosystem, one can adapt EF/EF-S glass on Sony but not E glass on Canon. Mirrorless can always accept more lenses physically.
You didn't mention the 1080p120 on the 90d or the bitrate differences for video....plus, might help to compare with iconic lenses rather than kit. I never liked the ef-s 18-135....fast focus, but otherwise slow non constant sperature and far from L glass territory.
EF-S 18-135 is too big and heavy compared to E 18-135. Plus it can't be mounted on a FF DSLR body like Sony's. In the EF-S territory, only 10-18, 24, 55-250 are worth buying.
Great comparison! I have to say Sony was a lot sharper and would be my choice for 4k video. When I shoot birds and animals, I want to see as much detail as possible.....but I don't usually shoot 4k.
Just throwing out a random thought...I watched a photo biased review of the M6II. The reviewer had doubts about most of the M lenses being able to keep up with the bigger sensor. Watching this I started to wonder if any of the budget friendly efs glass could be lacking too.
Yeah the EFM lenses are ok but they aren’t the highest quality, I’m really surprised to see canon pushing the sensors there without the glass to back it up 🤷♂️
Ur videos are way better and practical
I' sure others pointed this out, but Canon seems to have softened on their firmware policy. They added 24P. They also have released updates to the AF system on the EOS R and RP, which significant improve AF. I think we can have higher hopes that Canon will continue to do this for current bodies. I can see why you thought otherwise though, it's more their norm to not do these things. For once they listened.
Canon is releasing a firmware update giving us 24p back 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
It does seem like the Sony has sharper videos and sometimes images in low light but I’m going to go with the 90D for everything else. Thanks for the video man these were my final options and I was struggling.
Which one is better for sports video recording? I know that Sony a6400 doesn’t have the 29 minute limit on it. Which is a feature I really need. But still trying to figure out which to buy.
Go with a6600 now
@@chaddonal4331 does the as6600 also have the unlimited video recording?
@@Arsenal64 yes
24 fps is now shipping with new 90D's. It came installed on mine, received 29 March 2021
The Canon looks soft in 4K compared to the A6400 IMO. Thumbs up!
which ONE is good for filmmaking? A6400 vs Canon 90D?
Iphone 11 pro
Kudos on filming the sparkling ice. Those are amazing! lol
Thanks! I do need a easy to use camera in 4k! Since I used the older 7d, My choice is easier watching this! Thanks again for a great video.
It does drop frame and that was meant to play back at 24p. None issue, just sounds like it is.
I’m so interested in the 90D as a B-cam for weddings. I like the crop for extra reach at ceremonies and 4K with dpaf is nice. Makes me wonder about shooting in 25p and dropping frames. Any thoughts or experiences?
I would check out potato jets video about the EOS RP and he shows how the 25 FPS can look in a 24 FPS time line 👍
if export 25 into 24 video will be missing 1 frame every second and is gonna look jerky. Unless you slow it down like 4%..
@@LordArioh Thanks, that's what I was wondering. Makes the decision about buying this camera that much harder though.
10:20 Color temperature on the canon seems off. Little too cool. What happened here? I mean sony's color science is getting better but Canon, generally, is known for a warm colors in photo and video. I mean just look at the two in the studio and then outdoors the cooler camera is now warmer. (User error?)
I haven't seen a single video from Casey Neistat uploaded in higher than 1080p, and he has 11,5 million subs.. in general most subbed channels on YT are in 1080p. so.. who cares.
he used to shoot 4k videos on a panasonic GH5. they looked great (aside from some sketchy autofocus)
Very short sighted
1. YT algorithm gives slight preference to videos that have the option of 4k and other larger formats.
2. Videos are forever, and in however many years it takes 4k and above will be the standard and FHD will be a size of the past. Future proofing is always good.
2.5 - Also for shorts and documentaries, especially on streaming platforms like Netflix it's a requirement. 4k gives you options to sell your work.
@@GavinClay if content sucks or gets outdated every year, no 4K is gonna future proof it. I saw a lot of channels grew up from zero to millions of subs in 1080p and tons of 4K channels that stay under 200K for years. It doesn't mean that YT don't recommend 4K more often, it means that their content is just not good enough.
If you're serious about production then ofc go for 8K. Otherwise simple vlogs, reviews and other stuff no one cares.
I myself watch everything in 720p, because quality of the talking face is the least important thing to me.
@@LordArioh I have made no mention of quality of content or Inferred that inferior content is made up for by resolution.
Saying that you personally don't watch content in Full HD or seeing that creators can grow more substantially with only 1080p again proves the point.
Years ago TH-cam did not support 1080p but now they do and a lot of creators switched from their old camera resolution to the new 1080p.
How many content creators still upload in 480p or 720p only?
Again, very short sighted.
@@GavinClay let's see, they say Peter McKinnon made over a million subs in one year, shooting with 1DX2. nope, more than a year uploads all in 1080p.
Uploading now in 720 is harder than 4K, because most cameras hardly even support the format.
If you wanna prove to yourself that you can splash extra cash on 4K video and editing gear and spend extra time editing and rendering stuff that most will watch in 720p and forget about it, you're welcome.
For majority of content on YT it's not worth the hustle.
All channels I mentioned grew significantly in a last few years when 4K was already a futureproofer. Braille Skateboarding even made millions subs uploading in 720p because they didn't have enough memory cards.
To grow a channel it's all about how you sell it. Not resolution.
In 2025 will you watch Peters video What's in my camera bag from 2018 because it's futureproofed with 4K? No. No one will.
Love both of them I was thinking about getting the Canon one
Which one to buy? Please give a straight answer. Sony A6400 or Canon 90D?
What do you think of the Canon M6 Mark II vs the 90D?
Like those of you WHO GOOGLED IT 7:38 , ONCE HE TOLD CANON HAS NO 24fps capability!!!
"Don't expect to receive 24 frames per second in a firmware update. It's not going to happen." - Aged well lol.
Do love the videos though!
Question...at 11:26 into the video, i.e. vlogging test, I noticed that the 90 d appeared much softer than the sony. Did the sony have a better lens or better focus? Could L glass improve the sharpness on the 90 d? What exactly were the settings on the 90 d in regards to focus? I know canons can be sharp when pressed with lens selection. Please help me to understand earthling....lol.
As always keep up the good work and keep'em flying....
Can't wait for the shootout with the a6100 when it comes out!!
i want to buy a camera? advice needed!
need your opinion over ( Sony A6400 VS Canon 90D) which one is the best in these 2 camera for vlogs , filmmaking, and small business intro videography as a bigenner? and which lens do you advice to buy?
i live in Antwerpen, if you can find for me the link that i can buy from there the camera with lenz that is recommened by you , would be appreciate , thanking you
Good review, I may swap in my Canon 80D for the Sony having watched this! You may now already know but you can drop the Canon 90D down to 25fps by setting it to PAL instead of NTSC - its close-enough to 24fps for most not to notice. Hope that this helps!
The 90d has 24p buddy. The "no 24p" died when canon released the update back in october
@@josemendezfr that's brilliant news, just shows that despite in this video 'dad' saying "It'll never happen", Canon were obviously listening! Still tied between these two cameras though, I have the 80D at the moment and the only reason that I want to ditch it is because of video quality, it just doesn't give me that immaculately sharp image that other TH-camrs seem to have. In this comparison, the Sony clearly has the better quality sensor but the feature-set of the 90D make it very wantable!
a6600 same as a6400 but with stabilization, if better video quality is the priority it's a no-brainer. Canon is nice no doubt, but that picture is so clearly better on the Sony why pay more for Canon? And I can tell you the a6400 is a beautiful machine, you won't be disappointed.
I got my 90D in Singapore and it allows me to shoot in 4K at 25 fps. I wonder why yours doesn't allow you to do that.
He said about 24 fps, not 25
90D supports PAL Color system 25fps, 50fps frame rates and Ntsc Color system 30fps and 60 fps frame rates.
24 fps is the film industry standard.. Canon decided to provide it only in their higher end eos cinema cameras..
Sharpnesswise 4k of the sony a6400 is wayyy sharper, I'm watching this on a 5k iMac (I mean it depends on the lens too, but this is what you get with a starter kit)!
I mean the 90d is a great camera but wtf canon, why still dslr?
Skin tones look ok to me on the sony, but it is nothing you can't fix in post.
Ok little update: seems like the 90d got an update, a friend of mine told me that the 4k doen't look shitty any longer!
I am in the unusual position of looking at buying both the Sony A6600 and Canon 90D. I prefer the Sony for video but I shoot Canon for sports stills and have a lot of Canon glass and the 90D is the best Canon DSLR for 4K video yet made, and will give me lens choices I don’t have on the Sony, especially at the long end (400-800mm) and specialty lenses such as shift and a long macro (180mm).
I am curious - you imply that the A6400 is the best Sony and not the A6600. Why? Is that just because of price, or is there some other advantage the A6400 has that I am missing out on? For me, the headphone jack alone makes the A6600 a much more useful camera.
Yeah, small DSLR’s like the 90D are the best feeling cameras in the hand, especially for a male. But the 24fps thing is a huge problem. I am in a PAL region, so shoot 25fps and there is no effective visual difference between 24 and 25. BUT, whenever doing anything artistic in a group, the group choice is always 24fps so only the Sony is eligible. Does Canon really want only Sony’s and Lumix on these low budget short film sets? Idiots. They think only amateurs buy the 90D and don’t realise a lot of pro’s buy cheaper cameras too and enthusiasts are more likely to want to go artistic and look for the 24 even though it is only 1% of the time. It is a standard for a reason
BTW crop on a crop is brilliant. APS-C is the same as 35mm movie stock. A crop essentially gives us a 16mm option. 16mm has a cult following in film due to visual look as well as being perfect dof for documentary and longer reach for sport and wildlife, and to have both formats together is very desireable. MFT has that 16mm advantage but doesn’t have the ability to give us the ability to switch on a 35mm mode for creative reasons.
Simple. He recommends the a6400 because the a6600 is not out yet. Will be out in November or December, depends on your location/country.
If you shoot 4k the Sony wins. It can generate in camera proxy files! That's a game changer, a feature only available on the very high end cams. And strange, but the a6400 looked so much sharper. At first, I thought it was the kit lenses, but now I think it's the Sony sampling from a 6k image. I don't think the Canon 90d does this.
The 90D (and the M6ii) both upscale to 2.8k to 4k!!! so they are not really 4k and that is why it is not as sharp as the a6400.
I have an 80D and an A6300. Which of these two is more tempting to me? I have to give the nod to the a6400. More feature rich and better image quality at the end of the day. But both great.
The only thing I didn’t like about the 90d is no “All I” compression. It’s IPB. Granted I had to watch your video on a 4K monitor to see the compression artifacts, it’s still there and makes the eyes not look so in focus even though they are. I had to deal with this with the 6d mkii and it’s fine until you get about 4’ away from the camera, then the file looks funky. Still excited to get the EOS R on Black Friday though haha
William Ridenour the only thing I’d add to that is be careful with the apple monitors as they have built in sharpening on screen. I’d most definitely check on different monitors for sharpness, just like you should for color. I prefer using DNxHR over ProRes, but I mostly agree with the external recorder. In my case, I do a lot of location interviews for clients and the less gear I have to walk around with, the better. So mostly I’d recommend getting a camera that has good looking files in camera, instead of needing to add more expensive gear to a lesser camera just to achieve the same end goal. In my case, being responsible for the entire productions and needing the completed video the next day in most cases, I lean more toward gear that has as few crippled features as possible. Speed and quality are important.
Canon 90D did get a 24fps firmware update.
Honestly for me, the a6400 looks more kinda kid's toy rather than something that I can bring on a professional event or shoots. Also, Canon colors are just way waaaay better than Sony. The AF tracks in a natural way, replicating the best possible precision manual racking look. Canon is far easy to use and the best part is, batteries last long. Moreover, the lens options (native as well as third party) are bang for the buck, Sony just runs short on this. Glad I picked up a 90D and not any Sony APS-C. IBIS doesn't even matter for my work, mostly my rig is on a tripod, monopod or a gimbal where anyways I gotta disable the in camera stabilization if any.
My suggestion- If you wanna grow as a professional photographer or film maker, just pick up that 90D and you wont regret later on. Else if you want a casual use camera, with less to no professional use, pick any of cheaper ones. A6400 makes no sense, unless I'm a travel blogger who needs a nifty kit.
My opinion I like the canon 90d more has better quality for me and plus really good photography on it
Better resolution for Sony, Better skin tone for Canon
Canon 90D vs Sony a6400
Mainly for video works
Really leaning towards the a6400
Thou I already have the 80D
I think I cant used the Video from the 80D side by side with either of the 80D and a6400 because of the big difference in video quality.
What do you guys think?
Sony super 35 has no competition, the sharpness is unreal, but I think im going to return mines to best buy for the new a6100 (newer software)
Now a6600 vs 90d?
Why? Even 6400 beats the 90d.
Clear winner would be the a6600 because of excellent ibis.
BTW sony's proffession has always been video technology, If we compare 2 brands. So Canon or other photography brands can never overcome Sony's video performance i think.
Which one is better for still photography? Thank yuo!!
I prefer the A6400 image. Much sharper and cleaner looking.
Which one better for photos ???
One time for the sparkling ice!
Which action camera do you recommend to record a softball game from a stationary tripod, thanks
I own the Sony a6400 and I can get some nice sports action shots with it. The scene selection allows you to choose the sports mode and you can get some nice images with no motion blur. Plus, the AF is so good that my friend's face was still in focus even as I bursted photos of him shooting a soccer ball. However, I had a weird problem where the ISO jumped really high suddenly, but it only happened in two photos and I turned it down before it could ruin more shots. I hope this helps.
@@mud_rocker Thank you
Canon... all the features almost same 24fps is available on 90d... the battery life and weather sealing .. stabilization and far superior lens lineup.. and user friendly menu.. CANON for me is the winner..
I don’t understand how anyone goes with the Canon. Since DSLR is going to slowly fade away, how do you invest in an EF mount?
Full disclosure: I shoot on an EOS R and A73, I prefer the Canon, ya know, cause I am crazy. Its just nicer overall.
Which lens u prefer for 90 d for night light wedding photography
Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 AF
Canon EFS 17-55 f/2.8 USM IS
Canon 24-70mm f/2.8 (L) USM
which one should I use for indoor?
Hey buddy, loving your shows. I'm thinking of splurging on the Canon 90D, now 24fps is available as a firmware update. Have you managed to test this yet? I'm looking to make interior design and interview projects for myself and some small businesses. Also, can you recommend a gimble for this camera - or do opt for the PANASONIC????
Hi there. How does the footage of the 90d both in 1080p an 4k compare to the EOS R since you are considering using the 90d as a B camera to the EOS R?
Did you use 16-50 kit lense with Sony???
Canon announced firmware update for 90D and other models. 24p option will be a fact in some weeks!
Ah man, the amount of videos I have been watching on this subject is insane. So first of all I got the iPhone 12 Pro Max as an upgrade to my 10 XR which I was using for video on my TH-cam channel. Then I saw people going crazy about the zv1 but realise the phone looked a bit puny. Then I saw the M50 and I was thinking that it looked better but dont like the battery time and it still looked a bit puny. So I started looking at the a6400 but realise it’s not a flip screen so that’s no good. Thought about getting the 80d but now deffo am getting the 90d
please please please compare the 90D vs LUMIX G9, there is no comparison video on youtube and i would love one because i dont know which one to buy !
I will buy Sony a6400.please tell me which lense did you use with Sony a6400??
Which one is better for photography? I do a lot of filming but I want to be able to take good pictures too
I want them both!!!! a few months ago I got the Sony a6400 with a Sigma 16mm f1.4 and i have been using it on a gimbal and it sure has a lot of features for video (I don't care about photos too much)...but I couldn't forget how much "fun" my 70d has been for 5 years or so- the touchscreen and menus...maybe I stayed with Canon too long! This comparison video is awesome...I can see that the a6400 is sharper in 4k than the 90d but nothing too bad. You got them side by side a few times. For the Vlog test, did you put the 90d in the cropped mode? Is this the one that would give the best quality? Thanks so much for the hard work! Your camera is the EOS R correct? is the R better in 4k than the a6400? Thanks!
Awesome video. Im abit angry as looking at the price of the 90D over there is almost double the price over here in Australia.
Ouch! That stinks, I’m not sure that I’d recommend it for double the cost 😳
@@TheEverydayDad yeah it kinda was a kick in the face. Might just keep using my 70D until I get sick of it.
Is it just me or what? I like the video on 90D more than A6400. Yeah, A6400 looks sharper, but it doesn’t look pleasing at all to me. 90D video looks way more cinematic to me. Color looks better on 90D too, especially your skintone in the studio light.
The problem with the sonys is.. they always seem to have some kind of green tint. which makes the skin looks "sick". no matter what camera somebody uses, i instantly can see which one was shot on a sony because of that. im sure its fixable.. but out of camera its strange.
Can you please make a comparison between the Canon 90D and the Sony6600?