U both absolutely killed it..I really like how informative and no nonsense these videos are..your wife reading was so amazing and clear. Thank you both!
There have been a couple of instances of flukes slipping thru Hybrid TTM. So, it doesn't appear that the method is 100% effective against flukes. What you can do is dose Prazipro 2x, 6 days apart, on alternating transfers (when no H2O2 bath is scheduled) to deworm your fish.
Thanks for the very informative video. Just one question. Can I use the same air pump for Tanks #1 and #2 noting that the air stones will need to be discarded? Cheers.
@Humblefish & Reef, life happened and I went a few minutes over my 72 hour transfer mark on transfer #3. My question; is there any safety factor around the 72 hour mark, or will the mishap require a back to day 1 restart? TYIA! TTMH protocols
A few minutes late is probably ok, but as a general rule the 72 hour transfer is a hard point you have to hit. The three main "rules" for TTM are as follows: 1. Transfers need to occur every 72 hours OR less, NOT more 2. The total number of days to pass should be 12 OR more, NOT less 3. A minimum of four transfers is required, with more required if doing transfers more frequent than every 72 hours
It can be done while a fish is in hyposalinity (as a redundancy for Ich + flukes). However, it would be best to have the salinity of your first transfer tank match the bag water of the fish, and slowly raise SG throughout TTM until it matches your DT.
I’m looking at extending my 800 litre fragrance tank and adding a 10ft display. I also have another Red Sea reefer 350. All the fish will be brought together and added to the display and frag system. These systems have been running for 4 years with no sign of fish disease. Would you remove them all and quarantine or just quarantine new additions? I have wrasse, clowns, tangs etc. including a powder blue.
Wow, I watched this video and was excited there was a black and white process to follow for great results. Went out and bought everything I needed. I now see on the HF web site that this isn't the preferred method of quarantine. They also have added in the use of sponges, power heads, and even hang on the back filter units. I'm confused if this method (TTM) should be followed at all or if adding sponges and powerbeads to this process would help? I can't imagine cleaning a HOB filter every 72 hours. This video, though outdated, was great. Is there another video for the new process?
Hello - “Hybrid” TTM is my favorite QT method. I personally prefer to keep it simple by using an airstone, PVC elbow, heater/thermometer as shown in the video. To make everything easier to clean/sterilize. However, some prefer to use more elaborate filtration or a powerhead for additional flow. Which is fine as well, provided everything gets sterilized before next usage.
Hey, for ich and velvet, would you say TTM is better than dosing a quarantine tank with copper power at 2.5 for 4 weeks? I would much rather do the ttm now that I watched this vid, plz let me know
@@HumblefishReef thank you very much for the response. I’m going to switch over to the hybrid TTM. I have a follow-up question Since I can’t use biological filtration, my ammonia will be spiking up (I have a group of 10 damsels in a 10 gal here). of course I’m going to follow the water changes schedule, however would you say it’s completely fine to just dose prime every single day to keep ammonia down? It wouldn’t be too much prime if I use it every day?
@@HumblefishReef can I daily dose it into a quarantine tank with copper (I wouldn’t be doing ttm for this tank, only changing about 50 percent at a time). Im worried prime or ammonia breakdown will build up. What do you think Sorry for all the questions
@@Dbfyoutube You can mix Prime with chelated copper e.g. Copper Power or Coppersafe. But NOT Cupramine because ammonia reducers will turn that form of copper toxic.
I'd like to do the hybrid ttm as we've got what I'm sure is velvet, but only have 2x qt tanks @ 70ltr. I have 5 fish that need treatment so I guess I'd be pushing it to place all of them in a tank because of the Ammonia? 2x baby clowns, one full grown coral beauty, 1 baby blenny and a med sand sifting goby 😔 also my DT will need to be fallow for the 79 days so I'm not sure how I'd be able to house them safely without needing to do a ridiculous amount of water changes in the holding tank for the rest of the time ?
You can dose Prime or another ammonia reducer every 24 hours to alleviate ammonia concerns. HTTM involves transferring the fish every 72 hours. The only difference is you need to do 2 peroxide baths - spaced 6 days apart - to eliminate Velvet.
@@HumblefishReef sorry one more question! If fish are showing slight symptoms of parasite can I do a peroxide bath before they go in for Day 1 in qt ? And then follow the schedule appropriately moving forward still doing two more baths ? Or would this be too stressful on the fish doing 3x baths
Can I do this process with a 5G bucket I'm trying to QT a blue spotted puffer so he's the only fish. Just thinking I have multiple of those vs 10G tanks
Is the puffer small? If so, then yes; but monitor ammonia very, very closely in that volume in water. In fact, it might be a good idea to dose Prime or Amquel every 24 hours for good measure.
He's very small. Maybe 1.5 So I'm a little confused, it says transfer every 36 hours until day 10. But it also says to do more than one transfer within the 36 hours? Is that just initially? Like Day 1, fish in, Next day transfer THEN wait 36 hours?
@@HumblefishReef I'm doing the Velvet method. I'm just a little confused where it says "Day 1 fish in tank" (assuming QT) Then Day 2 transfer at the 36 hour mark. So I put the puffer in at 6PM tonight. Do I transfer the fish tomorrow then set my timer for 36 hours? Or Fish in and start the timer right away? Only wondering because it mentions doing more than one transfer within the 36 hour mark and the timeline is giving me a little hick up. Technically, if I put the fish in and waiting the 36 hours it would be day 3. Just trying to see where the more than one transfer comes into play
@@DesertRider760 As soon as the fish enters the first TRANSFER TANK, the 36 hour timer begins. You will then transfer the fish every 36 hours a total of FOUR times. The final two transfers occur every 71 hours. So, you transfer the fish a total of 7 times: Initial transfer, four transfers at 36 hours, and two transfers at 71 hours. Hopefully that makes more sense.
Hey, I really want to quarantine corals and inverts, but I cannot as I live in a tropical country where the water can reach 114 degrees Fahrenheit. So, I can only quarantine fish. I could quarantine corals and inverts but I would need a chiller and it’s too expensive, so my parents won’t allow me to. So what should I do? Please let me know. Thanks a lot. Please reply.
@@modernfarmer7501 Hi! After 2 years I am finally setting up my tank! I just finished the scape and I'm actually filling up the tank today! It is a 5 foot long 150 gallon mixed reef tank. And for the quarantine tank, I plan on just qting the fish and not the corals or inverts since the shop that I'm gonna get everything from already quarantines the fish.
Excellent information, about to challenge myself with a powder blue. Question, cam you combine transfer method with hyposslinity?
@@macy17250 Yes 👍
Awesome video, this definitely made more sense in video format. Are there alternatives to a tank like a plain 5 gallon bucket?
You can use buckets to do TTM, but the fish are more difficult to see. To look for white dots or growths, red sores, etc. on their body.
Can this be applied to freshwater fish? If not, how do I vary the process to suit freshwater.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Unfortunately, I do not know the answer to this. I am unfamiliar with the lifecycle of freshwater Ich and other parasites.
Thanks great video and informative. Just heads up audio very low
Another great video. Thank you Bobby!
Thank you, Omar! My wife & I are enjoying making these.
U both absolutely killed it..I really like how informative and no nonsense these videos are..your wife reading was so amazing and clear. Thank you both!
I love this method.....not using Prazi for flukes is ok? Hydrogen peroxide baths are enough? Thank you guys!
There have been a couple of instances of flukes slipping thru Hybrid TTM. So, it doesn't appear that the method is 100% effective against flukes. What you can do is dose Prazipro 2x, 6 days apart, on alternating transfers (when no H2O2 bath is scheduled) to deworm your fish.
Thanks for the video. Can I ask if the same method can be used to quarantine invertebrates if eggs are present?
Unfortunately, no. This explains how to quarantine corals + inverts: humble.fish/community/index.php?threads/coral-invert-quarantine-time-frames.487/
Thanks for the very informative video. Just one question. Can I use the same air pump for Tanks #1 and #2 noting that the air stones will need to be discarded? Cheers.
Yes, you can use the same air pump; but I would use different airline tubing + air stones for each transfer tank.
@@HumblefishReef Thank you for replying.
@Humblefish & Reef, life happened and I went a few minutes over my 72 hour transfer mark on transfer #3. My question; is there any safety factor around the 72 hour mark, or will the mishap require a back to day 1 restart? TYIA! TTMH protocols
A few minutes late is probably ok, but as a general rule the 72 hour transfer is a hard point you have to hit. The three main "rules" for TTM are as follows:
1. Transfers need to occur every 72 hours OR less, NOT more
2. The total number of days to pass should be 12 OR more, NOT less
3. A minimum of four transfers is required, with more required if doing transfers more frequent than every 72 hours
Thanks for sharing these great treatments.
Can the TTM be done with hyposalinity or is it best with regular salinity?
It can be done while a fish is in hyposalinity (as a redundancy for Ich + flukes). However, it would be best to have the salinity of your first transfer tank match the bag water of the fish, and slowly raise SG throughout TTM until it matches your DT.
I’m looking at extending my 800 litre fragrance tank and adding a 10ft display. I also have another Red Sea reefer 350. All the fish will be brought together and added to the display and frag system. These systems have been running for 4 years with no sign of fish disease. Would you remove them all and quarantine or just quarantine new additions? I have wrasse, clowns, tangs etc. including a powder blue.
I would probably get an eDNA test done to screen for any pathogens: humble.fish/community/index.php?threads/introducing-the-tankdna-test.6860/
Can i use a small filter for every tank? They are very small filters where you can run it without any media .
You can, provided you sterilize the filters before reusing. Some filters with lots of nooks & crannies need to be sterilized with bleach.
Wow, I watched this video and was excited there was a black and white process to follow for great results. Went out and bought everything I needed. I now see on the HF web site that this isn't the preferred method of quarantine. They also have added in the use of sponges, power heads, and even hang on the back filter units. I'm confused if this method (TTM) should be followed at all or if adding sponges and powerbeads to this process would help? I can't imagine cleaning a HOB filter every 72 hours. This video, though outdated, was great. Is there another video for the new process?
Hello - “Hybrid” TTM is my favorite QT method. I personally prefer to keep it simple by using an airstone, PVC elbow, heater/thermometer as shown in the video. To make everything easier to clean/sterilize. However, some prefer to use more elaborate filtration or a powerhead for additional flow. Which is fine as well, provided everything gets sterilized before next usage.
Thanks for sharing this!
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Hey, for ich and velvet, would you say TTM is better than dosing a quarantine tank with copper power at 2.5 for 4 weeks?
I would much rather do the ttm now that I watched this vid, plz let me know
@@Dbfyoutube Hybrid TTM all the way for Ich & velvet: humble.fish/community/index.php?threads/hybrid-ttm-to-treat-more-parasites.87/
@@HumblefishReef thank you very much for the response.
I’m going to switch over to the hybrid TTM.
I have a follow-up question
Since I can’t use biological filtration, my ammonia will be spiking up (I have a group of 10 damsels in a 10 gal here). of course I’m going to follow the water changes schedule,
however would you say it’s completely fine to just dose prime every single day to keep ammonia down?
It wouldn’t be too much prime if I use it every day?
@@Dbfyoutube Yes, you can safely dose Prime every 24 hours to keep ammonia in check 👍
@@HumblefishReef can I daily dose it into a quarantine tank with copper (I wouldn’t be doing ttm for this tank, only changing about 50 percent at a time). Im worried prime or ammonia breakdown will build up. What do you think
Sorry for all the questions
@@Dbfyoutube You can mix Prime with chelated copper e.g. Copper Power or Coppersafe. But NOT Cupramine because ammonia reducers will turn that form of copper toxic.
Thank you
I'd like to do the hybrid ttm as we've got what I'm sure is velvet, but only have 2x qt tanks @ 70ltr. I have 5 fish that need treatment so I guess I'd be pushing it to place all of them in a tank because of the Ammonia? 2x baby clowns, one full grown coral beauty, 1 baby blenny and a med sand sifting goby 😔 also my DT will need to be fallow for the 79 days so I'm not sure how I'd be able to house them safely without needing to do a ridiculous amount of water changes in the holding tank for the rest of the time ?
Also just to be 100 clear when doing hybrid with velvet do you need to do more transfers ?
You can dose Prime or another ammonia reducer every 24 hours to alleviate ammonia concerns.
HTTM involves transferring the fish every 72 hours. The only difference is you need to do 2 peroxide baths - spaced 6 days apart - to eliminate Velvet.
@@HumblefishReef thanks so much for speedy response.
@@HumblefishReef sorry one more question! If fish are showing slight symptoms of parasite can I do a peroxide bath before they go in for Day 1 in qt ? And then follow the schedule appropriately moving forward still doing two more baths ? Or would this be too stressful on the fish doing 3x baths
@@rosesarereddd5769 Yes, 3 or more baths are fairly well tolerated. 👍
Can I do this process with a 5G bucket I'm trying to QT a blue spotted puffer so he's the only fish. Just thinking I have multiple of those vs 10G tanks
Is the puffer small? If so, then yes; but monitor ammonia very, very closely in that volume in water. In fact, it might be a good idea to dose Prime or Amquel every 24 hours for good measure.
He's very small. Maybe 1.5
So I'm a little confused, it says transfer every 36 hours until day 10. But it also says to do more than one transfer within the 36 hours? Is that just initially? Like Day 1, fish in, Next day transfer THEN wait 36 hours?
@@DesertRider760 Which version of TTM are you wanting to do? For “Velvet TTM” follow this transfer schedule: humble.fish/ttm-for-velvet/
@@HumblefishReef I'm doing the Velvet method. I'm just a little confused where it says "Day 1 fish in tank" (assuming QT) Then Day 2 transfer at the 36 hour mark. So I put the puffer in at 6PM tonight. Do I transfer the fish tomorrow then set my timer for 36 hours? Or Fish in and start the timer right away? Only wondering because it mentions doing more than one transfer within the 36 hour mark and the timeline is giving me a little hick up. Technically, if I put the fish in and waiting the 36 hours it would be day 3. Just trying to see where the more than one transfer comes into play
@@DesertRider760 As soon as the fish enters the first TRANSFER TANK, the 36 hour timer begins. You will then transfer the fish every 36 hours a total of FOUR times. The final two transfers occur every 71 hours. So, you transfer the fish a total of 7 times: Initial transfer, four transfers at 36 hours, and two transfers at 71 hours.
Hopefully that makes more sense.
Hey, I really want to quarantine corals and inverts, but I cannot as I live in a tropical country where the water can reach 114 degrees Fahrenheit. So, I can only quarantine fish. I could quarantine corals and inverts but I would need a chiller and it’s too expensive, so my parents won’t allow me to. So what should I do? Please let me know. Thanks a lot. Please reply.
hi, i think you can FO/FOWLR saltwater tank
@@modernfarmer7501 Hi! After 2 years I am finally setting up my tank! I just finished the scape and I'm actually filling up the tank today! It is a 5 foot long 150 gallon mixed reef tank.
And for the quarantine tank, I plan on just qting the fish and not the corals or inverts since the shop that I'm gonna get everything from already quarantines the fish.