Chloe Jennings-White Please, Chloe...Give me a break. Don't even come up with that nonsense statement. For your own good, go seek mental help (which I know you're trying to and I truly hope you succeed). And don't move on with that surgery. Good luck.
Victor Chen she probably is hoping for a "skiing accident" if she fantasizes of getting into a car wreck there is no telling how far she will take this.. Especially since she is unable to afford the surgery.. It's messed up and people really need to quit with the excuses for this behavior it's not healthy.. She needs to learn how to be considerate of those who didn't have a choice for being stuck in a wheelchair for the rest of their live.. I don't feel bad for people like this it's just an attempt to get sympathy and attention from others..
@@ZEPPYLYNN I'm handicapped and it's not by choice at all. But this disorder is a real disorder. Breath & Shadow, a magazine that only publishes disabled writers, published an article I wrote about BIID.
It does make sense, cause there's reasons behind everything, except maybe at the quantum level. Its just we don't understand the reasons for it, maybe some people prefer to feel nothing below the knee, but strongly enough to want to do something about it. I would have to experience it to really understand what its like.
David Tap I agree with you it is sick and twisted.. If she does get the surgery done I guarantee she will grow to regret her decision.. Only a lazy person would want to be confined to a wheelchair with others taking care of them.. I feel bad for those who didn't have a choice, not people like this..
stephanie irwin So nobody is able to explain wherein lies the offense? Or are people suggesting that a female to male transsexual is automatically offended by the existence of a male to female transsexual?
Chloe Jennings-White That's not the same thing at all. She actually wants surgery to not be able to use her legs, while disabled people can't have surgery to be able to walk. Also, it seems like she is a hypocrite because she doesn't think of her legs when she's skiing. It just doesn't seem right to me.
This is a real mental illness, it’s not something she’s making up, she wouldn’t regret, you can’t give your opinion about this if you don’t live or don’t even inform yourself about it
She’s probably only doing it in the hope of having an accident that breaks both her legs, but if she admitted that they wouldn’t allow her entry anymore
She's actually partially paralyzed in one leg from a skiing accident in 2006. She wants to fully paralyze her leg because it is extremely painful. Don't let the video decieve you. They cut her explanation of everything out.
WTH is wrong with people? I just saw another video with a girl blinding herself on purpose🤦🏽♀️ Barcroft Tv why y’all making these stories sounds inspirational for views dammm
Yeah that's sad people who live with disability want to be healthy and live a normal life. and now we found some ungrateful human want to be have disability
Jovi F.S Pemuda indonesia i have Ehlers-Danlos syndrome and have chronic pain, my joints dislocate. I can walk very short distances with crutches but mainly use a wheelchair. Tube fed because of gastroparesis and have epilepsy plus POTS and a list of medical problems. People like her drive me mad, I understand it’s a mental illness. But all I want is to be normal, ever since a child I’ve wanted to be a nurse and I’ve had to realise that dream might not happen, maybe an ambulance dispatcher one day. I just can’t understand why someone would want to be in a wheelchair when they can walk perfectly normal. It’s like when I saw an old lady pushing someone up the hill at the hospital in a wheelchair, the person in the wheelchair just got up and walked up the hill with no crutches or walking stick, no limp, she didn’t seem breathless, just walked completely normally.
It's supposed to highlight the struggles of people who live with BIID and to spread awareness on this condition, not everything on here is supposed to be inspirational but rather spreading awareness to those family members or friends that might also have this.
@@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841 lmao, this is a mental disease, she’s not healthy, and this isn’t something she can control it is a real problem, you need to inform yourself.
She wants to paralyze her one leg that is already partially paralyzed and is incredibly painful for her. She wants to paralyze it so she doesn't have to be in that pain anymore. She is i na wheelchair because of fibromyalgia. Don't let them fool you.
Someone mentioned that they didn’t explain, she has partial paralysis and it is extremely painful so she wants to be fully paralyzed. I assume it’s the cheapest option or possibly the most practical regardless of money. She only wants a necessary surgery and maybe the rest is just so her life is easier. It’s not that crazy if you think about it
Pandarolf: I suspect it is obvious that I too think about them all the time. It is no accident that a very large majority of my friends have substantial disabilities. The very first thing I did at the computer today was to wish my close friend with quadriplegia all the best for her surgery today.
Pandarolf Totally agreed. The friend I referred to was born completely blind and with cerebral palsy. She became quadriplegic at age 22. Very definitely not fair. But it does not inhibit her from being a wonderful human being who fills the world with her kindness.
serg blo No, she is not remotely pissed off that I want to be paralysed. Why on earth would she be? My paralysis does not affect hers in the slightest. Moreover she is very much looking forward to visiting and learning to sitski with me. Apparently the existence of the Paralympics has completely passed you by. It would have been a great opportunity for you to see how people with varying degrees of paralysis are able to ski. I suggest you Google Muffy Davis for a good example. Thank you for the questions.
serg blo There are many paths to wisdom. One that is very effective is to find friends of great diversity. That way one may see the world from many different perspectives. I find that friends with gender variance are extremely helpful. A female to male transsexual may hate their female body. A male to female transsexual may hate their male body. Yet these two groups of people are not pissed off with each other. They recognise that they are fellow travelers on the same path, yet going in opposite directions. They are able to understand each other. I have found that exactly the same thing is true of disability. Hundreds of people with disabilities have sought to be my friend as a result of this video. They are more understanding of BIID than any other group of people. You are correct that many people with paralysis wish for it not to be so, though this is far from being universally true. Therefore they understand that I am on the same path, just traveling in the opposite direction. This makes for wonderful mutually supportive friendships. I am not pissed off with people who are paralysed, just as they are not pissed off with me. They appreciate that my situation validates their perspective. They also appreciate that my situation validates that they are not in any way lesser or inferior beings for being paralysed. We understand each other. My left leg has been partially paralysed since my accidental spinal cord injury in 2006. So I do know what you are talking about. I have, for example, been completely unable to run since my SCI. I would not wish this on anyone who did not want it. The key to mutual understanding is always to recognise that everybody is different. Different people desire different things. People being different does not make one person better than another person. So far, the only cure that has been found successful for treating BIID is acquisition of the needed impairment. Psychotherapy or medications have not been found effective. Those with BIID who have acquired the appropriate physical impairment describe a sense of intense relief from the burden of BIID, in addition to dissipation of the frequently associated depression. They are thus able to continue with happy and productive lives. Thank you for your interesting comments and kind words.
As a paraplegic for 29 years (industrial accident at 19 years of age, helping a coworker) it's a bit offensive that she pretends to be paralyzed. I'm sure she parks in disabled parking spots and uses disabled bathroom stalls to "live the dream".. She needs some intensive Pacheco therapy before she really does become spinal cord injured. Although you can have a very fulfilling, happy life as a paraplegic or quadriplegic, it's a life no one should ever want to experience voluntarily. Not being able to walk is very minor issue, but the impact to bowel/bladder and sexual function are monumental adjustments for the newly injured. I sincerely hope she gets help before her fantasy is her new reality.
Obviously I already have impact on bladder and sexual function, etc, due to my 2006 SCI. I am interested to know exactly what it is that you find offensive, since I most certainly have no intent to offend.
+Chloe Jennings-White he finds it offensive that you are pretending to be paraplegic when you are not and taking advantage of the aid given to legitimate paraplegic people
No, that can not be the source of offence since I do not pretend to be paraplegic. Consequently, there is no way I can take any advantage of aid given to people with paraplegia. To the contrary, I am completely open about having BIID. I would be interested to know where you think I have ever said that I pretend to be paraplegic?
+Chloe Jennings-White in the video it states that you "chose to live your life as a paraplegic" so therefore you are pretending as you say yourself in the video that you "fantasise about having a car wreck and becoming a paraplegic" so again you are admitting that you are pretending
As an actually disabled person (not in a chair yet) this makes me profoundly angry. I keep trying to tell myself that it's a mental illness, but I would actually contemplate murder if it meant my daily torture would be over. The idea of becoming disabled intentionally... it's literally hell. My life as I knew it is over. My future is gone, my dreams are dead. There are only so many resources to help disabled people. I keep trying to tell myself that people like this are sick too, but I am so unbelievably angry that this is a thing.
Completely valid response. One of the first things I thought watching this was how offensive and upsetting for a person with disabilities to watch this.
this is a mental illness not someone being disrespectful. it isnt about you, its about themselves. in a way this is also a disability, a mental one. again, its not about you, its about them. they are dissatisfied with their limb, they dont see their limb as their own, their brain doesnt recognize it, and they want it gone. being mean to them will not help them, they will probably just amputate themselves and possibly die.
@@eagenthorror i dont think its wise, to think of every psychological phenomenon as a fix attribute of that persons being that needs to be respected and cultivated. maybe it is a trauma of that persons childhood or something like that ? my first thought when i heard of these people (that want to be disabled) today, was maybe theyve never got the attention, respect and love that they needed and deserved, when they were young. the lack of these basic human needs couldve made them wish they were somehow disabled to be able to force other peoples compassion. which would be reasonable, but still not right and not good for anyone. i think she would be a happyer person if she managed to overcome this trauma (this is all hypothetical ofc - just my mind trying to make sense of this).
@@eagenthorror but this is wrong and being Permanently Paralysed is not the solution;she just hurt herselfs for no reason if she fell like that go to the terapist go to somone she loves go to the doctor it"s like you are destroying youre body for no reason;with all my respect but no this is completly wrong;she is perfect and you choose not being perfect god prefer her to be helthy but she want to hurt herself;fell the pein for the actuall people with disabilities;why does she choose to feel this pain; even if she fells that happy with this desition at the end of the day she is just hurting herself please stop normalizing this;they shoud look for an other solution;The next in thing will be transalive. Where suicide will become an identity and their rights protected cause we fear to offend them. Mental Illnesses are now celebrated rather than treated.
Kelly: This is indeed a sensible suggestion, and one which suffices for many with BIID. It has worked for me during the last five years. I am a little confused as to what you mean by "playing pretend". I never pretend that I am paraplegic, nor have I ever told anybody that I am paraplegic. As for using a wheelchair, I have already explained here many times that my physician recommends it in order to reduce the likelihood of stroke.
Chloe Jennings-White Well, the definition of playing pretend is to fantasize about something while acting it out. If you are not a paraplegic, and yet you get into a wheelchair and fantasize about being one, then you are playing pretend. Based on the video, that is what you basically said you are doing. Its not meant to be offensive, its just a statement of what you are doing. Plain and simple. Nothing in the video says anything about you having some kind of condition that confines you to a wheelchair to prevent stroke. I've personally never head of a doctor suggesting something like that, but then again I'm not doctor myself, so I wouldn't know. Honestly, I'm not sure what you mean by that. The video was pretty clear about your condition. "You want to be paralyzed because you think it will make you happy. You have a condition called BIID. You restrict the movement of you legs, and have started using a wheelchair full time. You want a surgery to paralyze yourself." Unless I missed something, there was no mention of stroke prevention or any other reason for you to be in the wheelchair beyond that of you wanting to be in a wheelchair. Now if that's not the case, then you should contact the people who made the video and tell them to get it straight, but given every other thing that this video says, personally I'd have to believe that is the case. Now, don't get me wrong, you have something that's been categorized as a mental condition, I don't judge you. If you want to live that way, there is nothing stopping you, least of all me or my opinion. My above suggestion was that you continue as you are so that you can keep the use of your legs and still feel disabled. That's all it was, that's all I intended for it to be.
KellySmith555 You are absolutely correct that the video leaves out HUGE aspects of my life that are relevant to BIID. This is necessarily so since it is only ~5 minutes long. There exists an hour long radio program on National Public Radio which goes into much more detail about me and BIID. The director of the video here explicitly said that they wanted to leave out anything regarding my physical medical conditions. The ones of significance are as follows: Congenital moderate reverse slope hearing loss. Left septal leukoplasia since 1980. Fibromyalgia since August 1986. Category D T10-T12 spinal compression injury in December 2006. The SCI leaves me with chronic back pain, amongst many other things. This causes spikes in blood pressure which leave me at risk for stroke. Many people assume that a wheelchair is medically advised only for inability to walk. This is a misconception. Some people are prescribed a wheelchair in order to mitigate back pain. No I am not "confined" to a wheelchair. The exact words from my physician are "Use the wheelchair as much as practicable." She is well aware of my BIID, so she knew that I would have good tolerance of this. The bottom line is that you can not possibly know everything about my life in five minutes. The film crew was here for two full days in order to produce this video. The people making the video are very well aware of all these extra details. I have zero editorial control over what they put in and what they leave out. Simple mathematics will tell you that at least 95% of what I said necessarily got left out. I could go into a similarly detailed discussion about what is actually in my head when I'm using a wheelchair. But I don't want to bore people with a lengthy discourse about myself unless they express specific interest in a particular aspect. At any rate your suggestion is intelligent and well taken. Thank you for that.
Chloe Jennings-White Hearing loss does not necessitate the use of a wheelchair. Septal Leukoplasia does not necessitate the use of a wheelchair. Chronic back pain does not necessitate the use of a wheelchair.They sure don't stop you flying down a ski slope whenever you fancy. There is no physical reason for you to pretend to use a wheelchair. If you're going to defend your mental illness at least do it properly.
Stas Kara Who gives a fuck about what real paraplegics want, they have nothing to do with this woman, she can't transfer her ability to walk to them. Chances are if you're paralyzed you're not going to be able to walk again, and hating on this woman and being bitter about it sure isn't going to allow you to walk again, so fuck off.
Aurora Carmody She's just selfish and who in their right mind would want to become a paraplegic? Its offensive to anyone who has lost the ability to walk and experience life as a normal person. And telling me to fuck off makes you look incredibly dumb seeing as I've done nothing but express my opinion.
Stas Kara her mental disability is no different from your physical one. Just like you didnt chhose to be paralyzed she didn't choose to have a mental illness.
Aurora Carmody I'm not paralyzed but i do know a lot of people who are. Don't go making stupid assumptions like that to anyone, its very ignorant. and to me and many others, this just looks like another attention seeking moron who really doesn't need to be out there expressing her idiotic desires on TV. save it for the institution.
Stas Kara I didn't assume anything, the way your last comment was written made it seem like you were paralyzed yourself. Seeing as you're not paralyzed, don't speak for paralyzed people.
I have a real physical disability and this makes my blood boil. I wish I could say “Oh you know what? I’m meant to be healthy!” and it would just happen.
Exactly! If she has actual nerve issues though, she should focus on trying to get help for that. If she wants sympathy put her with the trans community. I personally as a disabled person don't want her accepted into the disabled community. Could you imagine the damage this could do? I don't think she even thinks about how everything will change especially with her blater and bowel
I am in a wheelchair in real life due to neuropathy....I wouldn’t wish what I have on anybody, even if I disliked them. It pains me to see that somebody actually wants to lose the ability to run, swim, have fun, or even being able to feel things on your legs. I hope she realizes that she is perfect the way she is and doesn’t need to be in a wheelchair. I also hope there will be a cure for BIID very soon. Edit: I used to be able to ski and I loved it, she should love the fact that she can ski. I truly wish that she gets help.
I have Osteogenesis Imperfecta, Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CRPS), peripheral neuropathy, scoliosis, and other messed up stuff. I completely agree and sympathize with you, and not in an annoying attention-seeking way.
I have Short Fiber Neuropathy it's taking over my whole body it's so painful and I'm so weak now I think I might end up in a wheelchair..hope you are feeling ok
As someone who is permanently disabled with a diagnosis of Cerebral Palsy I find this completely disgusting and insulting!!!!! The doctors who agree to do these operations should lose their license!!!! It's an insult to those who would love to change their disability and cannot!!!! I do not acknowledge this "disorder" Infuriating!!!!!!!
i can see why it must feel horrible if you didn't choose to be disabled and some people would willingly give up what you would desperately wish for. still it should be taken seriously because it is an actual disorder. i think they should be able to get the help they need but it might make a lot more sense to try to "fix" the disorder instead of just giving them disabilities... there was another video i saw on this disorder and a doctor helped the woman go blind.... it's a tricky situation. if they don't take money for it i might agree with it - i work as a nurse and i've learned about cases of assisted suicide. it's illegal but some of these people are so glad to get the help to end their life.
They used to put everyone who didn’t conform to societal norms into asylums, and then they would just rot there and go even more insane. There was a whole movement led by Dorothea Dix to reform the treatment of those with mental disorders so stop trying to glorify asylums. This woman obviously has a mental disorder that needs to be treated, but asylums aren’t the answer.
Why do people completely shrug off the validity of this disorder? This is obviously something this woman REALLY struggled with. Think about it, do you desire to paralyze yourself? No. Think about the act of purposefully paralyzing yourself. There is nothing about that that sounds desirable. (To me and likely not to you) So what I'm saying is, there HAS to be some kind of misfire in the brain to cause someone to feel this way. My heart goes out to this woman and anyone suffering from this or anything similar. Your feelings are valid.
Right, but she gets defensive. She aligns herself with the disabled community who had no say in their disability. And she wants to be one like she suffers just as much. Oh my god, woman. Walking is such a pain!
Thank you !! people slandering her fail to understand that she really has a psychological disorder! anyone who wants to purposely paralyze themselves does not have good mental health. I may not understand but mental illness is very very real , and i hope she finds a healthy way to cope instead of paralyzing herself
This reminds me of the lady that made herself blind on purpose .. I just can’t wrap my head around this mental illness , it’s Crazy ppl want to be disabled when there’s ppl out here wishing the could walk or see or whatever the case may be, it’s just sad tbh ..
It's like how crazy it is how some people wish they were dead while there's others with terminal illness. Although suicidal thoughts are taken a lot more seriously and blamed less than this mental illness.
So i have autism, which, like most mental dissabilities, is invisible. I was bullied a lot, because people just dont understand. As a kid, i used to wish i was physically disabled, just so people would be able to see i was different. But this woman is insane. Never, in my life, have i thought about pretendinh to be physically disabled because it made me feel better. She needs to get some serious help omfg.
if they were to remove it from the list of disorders and started allowing them to get medical treatment to cut off or break their limbs or go blind all because they feel this way, would you be for it and think the world needs to accept it? They're not hurting anyone else right. It will make them happier and be who they truly are. Reminds me of another group that used to be on that list.
Stuff like this was bound to happen. Life has become way too easy and we're bored. A larger population also makes the odds of weird things like this occurring increase.
Her obsessive desires absolutely aren’t a result of “Life being too easy” I think anyone completely willing to paralyse themselves over an obsessive desire is absolutely experiencing a major illness that is dominating their mind. Her desire to be paralysed likely isn’t a result of her own free will and is very likely an indicator of a very deep and extreme mental disorder or ailment.
Aggelos: Ah, I'm glad some people understand this! Some people commenting here seem to think there is a contradiction, when in fact they go hand in hand. Skiing is the number one sport that puts people at risk from paraplegia. Indeed my own category D spinal cord injury comes from a 2006 skiing accident. Moreover, the surgeon who wanted to stabilise my spine with metal rods warned me that I should never ski again because my existing injury puts me at a higher risk of paralysis. It is refreshing to see someone use intelligence in their comments here. Thank you for that.
I kind of find this disturbing. Not that she has a mental illness, many people do, but because people that truly did lose use of vital body parts will never get that back. We need to realize how lucky we are to function fully. I understand that she has a mental illness but it just hurts to think that someone would want to lose something so special.
Yes but it could be proof of past lives or something, it is associated with brain impulses and a lobe of the brain being affected making her think she was destined to be paraplegic. I don’t judge her at all, we humans have evolved and neuroscientists are still trying to understand what makes people tick
i feel so bad for her. imagine being so unwell that you want to do permanent damage to yourself like that. i know it's easy to hate her for this, & i understand if you do, but you really gotta pity someone who is that level of ill honestly
Saw this from another video: This is Body Integrity Disorder. It's due to a disconnect in the parietal sensory S1 receptor in which normally gives a person body awareness. I.e. you can close your eyes and identify your body as your own and spatially account for all your limbs and fingers. Simply put, a person with Body Integrity disorder has a lesion in this pathway so that they do not recognize a portion of their bodies as their own. It's most common in the left arm. It's almost as if living with constant anxiety that a foreign being is growing on your body. As if a stranger is constantly touching you. This is why it was previously treated as anxiety/OCD. Amputation "completes" their body maps and they can now account for their entire bodies. Further studies are being done to understand this disease
bigbullbk No, I am not an idiot. I mean what I said: What is her point? There are people who wish they could walk, and this is a woman who wishes she couldn't. What's the problem? Why ask "is she serious???" when it's obvious she is?
bigbullbk you are right, there are people that want to walk and have gotten into serious accidents.. young children that end up with no legs.. she's a moron..
annie T Actually there is no evidence linking BIID with diminished intelligence. I have a PhD from the University of Cambridge, I have been a vice president of two companies, I have more than a hundred published scientific papers. It betrays a profound ignorance of psychology to assert that psychological conditions imply low mental capacity. Try watching the movie "A Brilliant Mind".
Completely disagree. If they are in danger of hurting themselves or others to fulfill the desires of their mental illness, then yes. They need psychiatric help. But if they are just struggling but not trying to get hurt, then no.
@@kaitie648 I agree. People should only be locked up if they are a danger to themselves or others. There are plenty of people with mental illness that still function enough to live on their own which is the goal tbh. I don't really understand what's up with this lady, but it seems some sort of medical thing that's not yet fully understood.
I used to make slings out of blankets when I was on my own. Turns out I have a condition that causes chronic pain and fatigue and slings/supports are actually very helpful to me now
I 100% understand that there are differnt conditions that make people act out of the every day and they can't help it, but this women bugs me, because if she really felt like a wheelchair was her only way to live she wouldn't walk, she wouldn't ski ,she wouldn't hike. Speaking as a disabled person who have had no choice since she was 11, this women do it when it suits her, which leads me to think she wouldn't really want it 24/7 seeing as she is so educated i wouldn't have thought it would be such a stretch to save or take a loan out for the £15,000 that she need for the operation.. Also if she did go and have it done then i 100% think she shouldn't be able to claime disable benefits as she choose it, life being disabled is not a picnic believe me
Annie: Thank you for elevating yourself above the kindergarten level of comment so frequently seen here. You make intelligent points which are worthy of response: 1. I do not feel like a wheelchair is my only way to live. Trial and error has demonstrated to me that using a wheelchair beyond around 80% of a typical day brings no additional benefit to treating my BIID. This of course is a very common percentage usage for many people with physical disabilities, who indeed use a wheelchair when it suits them. I am assuming that your comment was not intentionally derogatory towards people with conditions such as multiple sclerosis.. 2. Skiing is an excellent treatment for my BIID. The primary muscle group used for skiing is the quadriceps. Since my left quadriceps are the muscles most affected by my accidental 2006 spinal cord injury (SCI), it follows that the act of skiing forces me to feel more disabled from this than by any other activity. Although I necessarily put 90% of my weight on my right leg while skiing, it is enough to cause major muscle spasms in my left leg as a result. Again this provides a strong physical validation of my SCI. Most beneficial of all is that the degree of monoparesis is sufficiently increased by skiing that a left leg brace is obligatory for a couple of days afterwards. 3. Disability benefits in the USA are only for people whose ability to work is negatively impacted by their disability. I have been working all the time over the last four and a half years from a wheelchair. Nothing would change in this regard by the conversion of my monoparesis to monoplegia. Consequently, acquiring impairment from the surgery I seek does nothing at all to increase my eligibility for disability benefits. The idea is therefore completely irrelevant. 4. Your saying "life being disabled is not a picnic believe me" is of course very true. However, this does not impart any new knowledge to me because I have myself been physically disabled since 1986. Yes, it sucks. I know! Even were this not the case, I spend the majority of my time most days talking with people who are physically disabled. Thus I am very familiar with the lives of people with everything from blindness to quadriplegia. 5. Not that my finances are anybody's business, but in reality I have spent large amounts of money on supporting my wife who is mostly housebound due to disability. She is unable to drive, etc. You are more than welcome to ask any further questions you may have. I pledge to answer all of them in good faith. Thank you for your interest. I am sorry that I bug you. It is certainly not my intent. With very best wishes, ~ Chloe
Thank you for your reply, you don't bug me as everyone is different in this world. I truley wish you well in your life and which ever road your life take i do hope it brings you happiness. But thank you for your Reply ,brightest blessings
I'm sorry Chloe, but you do seem to choose to be disabled when it suits you. For example, when you got out of your house, you got out of your wheelchair and walked it down the stairs. How convenient. Ice skating is essential to me but I can't physically do it anymore because of my disabilities, and it kills my soul. I have lost so much due to my disabilities, and you definitely appear to only be "disabled when convenient" Honestly, you don't seem prepared to be 100% paraplegic. The fact that you also put other's in harms way is appalling and selfish. You should not be allowed to drive if you want to get into a car accident, and honestly can't even recall if your past accident was intentional or not. Also, how can you complain about how much being disabled "sucks" and then also want to be wheelchair bound? I understand that might be a fantastic thought, but since you haven't actually lived as a wheelchair-bound person, it's a bit ridiculous to know that's what you want, while simultaneously admitting how much it "sucks." You're intelligent. Find a way to do it yourself, at home, where NO ONE ELSE will be harmed.
There was a girl when I was in Fifth grade who broke her arm all the time. And whenever the class would ask how she keeps braking it, she'd say "It was meant to be broken." I found her on Facebook, and apparently she had to see a therapist because her parents found out she did it on purpose.
In reality that depends on how much you are paralysed. Many people here do not seem to realise that there are hugely different degrees of paralysis. If you have complete quadriplegia then you are not going to be able to walk your wheelchair down the stairs. On the other hand, the surgery I seek is to convert my existing monoparesis into monoplegia (paralysis of the left leg only). I guarantee you that people with this condition ARE able to walk their wheelchair down the stairs. It is better to get your facts straight before commenting.
Since this video came out I have been invited to join more than 20 disability support groups on line. Hundreds of people with paralysis have requested to be my Facebook friend. They have been far more supportive of me than any other category of people.
Nina; if I believed you were asking a serious question I would give you a serious answer. However, labeling people who have congenital neurological dysfunctions as "insane" is merely willful ignorance.
This is sick and disgusting. I am perfectly healthy but I'm extremely offended for those who actually have had traumatic injuries and are forced to live disabled. Disgusting.
Although it's hard to fully understand, i have to think, this is a psychological problem and when it comes to the mind... so many things are possible and very hard to understand. What I can't understand is how does the government allow her to still drive when she has openly admitted to possibly causing a bad crash on purpose!! That's risking innocent people's lives.
Ah. I remember as a kid I wanted to wear glasses. Though my eyesight naturally went downhill as I go older. I was kinda trilled to get glasses. But then after the a week I was like, "Yeah, this isn't as cool as I thought." The saying goes, "Careful what you wish for."
Some people desperately want to walk and she can and wants to become paralyzed? Why doesn't she just not walk forever instead of going through surgery?
***** It is not clear to me why you have never heard of the Paralympics, or are unaware of hand controls for cars. You may easily google such things. A large majority of my friends with spinal cord injuries follow a bowel program that obviates the need for pooping in a diaper. It sounds like your friends need to acquire the information to manage these things more appropriately. Such information is freely available on line.
Brittney Thies I would be interested to know exactly what it is you think I have no idea about. I assume you are aware that I have an actual SCI from 2006.
Brittney Thies The video is heavily censored. Two days of filming and interviews gets boiled down to five minutes. Obviously you do not get to hear the vast majority of what I said. My editorial control is zero. Your assumption that I was the one who left something out is entirely incorrect. The director and the producer of the video deliberately leave out the fact that I am physically disabled in order to make it more sensational.
i never knew that there was BIID. it's so sad that she wanted to disable her body because a lot of people who are disabled want to be enabled. it's kinda like she's wreaking her health :(
Many disabled people can do that. Some can walk for a bit too but have to use wheelchairs because it gets extremely painful or because they literally can't continue to walk all of a sudden
I am struggling enormously to understand this lady's major psychological issues. I used to be a nurse in mental health and appreciate that what she is doing and the decisions she is making are symptoms of her illness. However, I keep reading that she needs psychological support but, from what I have read, she is getting this and her only resulting action was to get a wheelchair. I became disabled 11 years ago and am now a wheelchair user. I cannot comprehend why someone would wish this on oneself. Paraplegia is not just about not being able your legs. It's also about the double incontinence issues, pressure sore prevention and lack of sensation with intimacy. She would need care 24 hours a day - how would it make her family feel? As a final point - I truly wish I could ski again
It's much like self harm... Well, it is self harm. Not many can fathom why others feel the urge to cut, burn, bruise, pull hair, pick scabs, etc. But, the people who do participate in those harmful activities feel they have a reason. It is really hard to accept her feelings but, I am a strong believer that everyone deserves empathy. Even if you don't agree with them. Now, obviously, she needs a little more help because... Yeah...
@@alician.5950 As a person who used to cut, I think in a lot of cases, it comes from deep emotional pain and self loathing. I've gotten help and I don't do it anymore, but wow. Those were dark times. Another important detail I should probably add is that I have Depression.
@@BookBird2963 There are alot of different reasons people self harm I'm so glad you've overcome those dark times 😊. I hope you stay clean for the rest of your life💕
Barcroft cut out her explanation of everything. Basically, she was in a horirble skiing accident 6 years prior to this video. She has a spinal cord injury from it and is now partially paraluzed in her left leg. She wants to fully paralyze her left leg because it is extremely painful in the parts she still has feeling in. She's also in a wheelchair because she has fibromyalgia, not to fake being paralyzed. Don't let them fool you.
Someone as sick as she is and a mercenary. They have no regard for the hypocritical oath “first do no harm”. I would love for her to spend a year in my shoes after stroke also considered a brain injury.
Gwen: I am the "I" in the LGBTQI community, and consequently I have many friends who are "T". After people with disabilities, I find that people with gender variance are numerically the most significant group that is accepting and understanding of BIID, on account of the strong analogies. I am very sorry that people make fun of you. People can be astonishingly ignorant. I guess I am lucky that nobody makes fun of me being intersexed in real life. I have a 100% acceptance rate. On the internet of course, people who hate will usually hate absolutely anybody for absolutely anything. So yes, I would not be at all surprised by those who come a-trolling here if they throw what is considered by some to be a birth defect in my face as if it were something I should be ashamed of. I wasn't quite sure what it was you are saying you are not understanding. People who make fun of BIID? People who make fun of those who are Transgender? Or both? All best wishes, and be proud of who you are! ~ Chloe
People who judge you because you are transgendered.. are just plain rude and clearly they don't understand. It's sad in this society some people don't have any idea how it is to live on a day to day basis living transgendered. Sometimes it's not by choice and people are just born that way. Please don't take those people to heart who have hurt you and be happy for who you are.. always love yourself. Even though I don't know you.. but it breaks my heart to hear any discrimination because of their sex. It's up to you but if you ever need support or just someone to talk with.. I'll be more than glad to make another friend. I hope this helps. Be strong & always stand your ground.
Being L or G, or B, or Ts, or Tg is not a "Mental Illness" whatever the God Botherers' say. This woman has a "Mental Illness" and should be helped not pandered to.
I'm guessing that a lot of people who make fun of you secretly are attracted to you or envy you and making fun of you is a sort of twisted coping mechanism due to their inability to accept how they truly feel. My nephew is gay and got picked on a lot in middle school as a result. He confided in me when he was 10 and that he knew when he was 7. I knew before he told me but sometimes you gotta let a person work up to that point in their own time but I digress. When he was a sophomore in high school he discovered that the boy who was his chief antagonist in the 7th grade in fact had a secret crush on him and so to deflect suspicion that he was gay he picked on my nephew. But he also used it as an excuse to get close to my nephew without anyone suspecting he had the hots for my nephew. They have been dating since and this spring they will be going to the Senior prom together. Things are often more complicated then they appear on the outside.
This makes me so fucking angry. People who are actually disabled would do anything to be able to walk and there she is, having the gift of being able to walk and WANTING to be paraplegic
If he truly wants to be paralyzed, and can afford the surgery then let him…..just make sure he knows before the surgery he will NOT be able to draw ANY government assistance, whatever is needed for future health and existence is at his own expense.
Being paralyzed would be my worst nightmare, as I love hiking and being in the woods more than anything, it is hard to comprehend that would want to be in a wheelchair.
“Will be the happiest day of my life” you’re nuts lady, why would you want to do that with yourself ? People out here suffer from it and you think it’s satisfying
Barcroft cut out her explanation of everything. Basically, she was in a horirble skiing accident 6 years prior to this video. She has a spinal cord injury from it and is now partially paraluzed in her left leg. She wants to fully paralyze her left leg because it is extremely painful in the parts she still has feeling in. She's also in a wheelchair because she has fibromyalgia, not to fake being paralyzed. Don't let them fool you.
Browsin4Vids She is only demanding this because she is mentally ill!!!! Plus the result of his work would be to create another person dependent on benefits It's wrong anyway you look at it.
So selfish! What if she actually does get in a car crash on purpose but she survives and the person she hits gets badly injured. Wow i can't believe this lady
Oh my god!!! who does this??!!! instead of thanking god for this privilege you have, you are willing to spend money to paralyze yourself?!! it hurts seeing that someone could think like this, specially an educated one. pure shame
"God" didn't give Her legs unless you've witnesses God and seen God giver her legs. As much as she wants her legs removed you believe in an invisible daddy.
well if you don't believe in GOD keep it to yourself and don't bother replying to my comments. i won't judge you and you have absolutely no right in judging me
Nora Nasef well if you don't believe that biid is real then keep it to yourself . it's her life. Let her live it. As a wheelchair user I take offense to the idea that being abledbodied is a privilege and we should just spend our days crying out not being able to walk. Do you really think that someone like Stephen Hawking would trade his life for yours simply because you can walk?
Why doesn't she go to a psychologist to help her with that instead? She's not even thinking this through if she loves skiing.. I hope she never gets 25k!
seraphiccandy21 Yes, that is correct. I have had a huge amount of psychotherapy. It has been extremely valuable for improving my self acceptance and self confidence in regard to BIID. I most certainly would not have been able to publicly make myself so vulnerable without it. Unfortunately it is known that psychotherapy can do nothing to help the BIID itself.
As a disabled woman I am shocked by this a little because I wasn’t born disabled, believe it or not my problems started at school another child pulled a chair away from behind me accidentally because he wasn’t looking at what he was doing and chatting to another student, and I knew/thought the chair was there and went to sit down it was a solid concrete floor and I sat down with such a force that it jolted my spine, I think genetically I wasn’t right anyway because on my mum and dads side of the family there are a lot of different health problems anyway, for example my mum was born with slight scoliosis (curvature of the spine) and ended up with chronic heart disease and died of a heart attack in sept 2014 and my dad ended up with heart problems and he had chronic back problems when he was older and even had about 3 or 4 operations on his back over the years and he died in March 2014 of secondary bowel cancer, so at first I was shocked that a little accident like that caused so much pain and so many problems at the age of 15 yrs old because when we r young we think we will bounce back from anything, but I just didn’t, I was off school from the chair incident for about 2-3 months having to undergo lots of mri scans and lots of physio therapy too, then when I was 18 I was a passenger in a friends car and I didn’t put my seat belt on (totally my own fault) and she crashed into the back of the car in front so that further aggravated my back problems and I hurt my knee and hit my head in the windscreen I was very lucky that we wasn’t going fast at all, it was believe it or not the fault of the driver in front, she was actually behind us and she over took us dangerously and then once she got in front she slammed on her breaks and my mate couldn’t stop in time, my mates car was a wreck!, the woman got straight out the car moaning at me n my mate then ran across the road to a pay phone to call her husband me n my mate in agony slowly walked over to also use the phone and the woman had the audacity to ask if we had change for the phone and I know how soft my mate is and I said “sorry no we don’t, we got enough to make a phone call ourselves that’s it” she managed to make her call as she went into a shop we then made a call and slowly went back to the car,
Sick. Why would you want to be dependent on others??? There are million who would be happy to have your working body. You will be shortening your life.
BIID is a neurological disorder that is present since birth. It effects how the brain maps itself out and how the brain perceives parts of the body. It has been scientifically proven the only treatment for BIID is to make the brain map align with itself. This can be done through amputation if one has persistent feelings of being an amputee. No amount of therapy can get rid of a neurological disorder. This is how the brain is wired and developed. It is not a mental disorder.
She fantasizing about being in a car crash? Now that _is_ something most of us wouldn't want now is it? Yet there are people trying to justify the logic in this nightmarish desire. Call me a wierdo, but I am actually OK with having fully functioning legs-there really rather _useful_ and I want them to stay that way till my numbers up. Should I see a shrink about my 'keepmylegsworkingproperly' syndrome?
Doesn't she realise that if she does become paralysed, she won't be able to do stuff like skiing any more? Why can't she just pretend because I hate the thought of someone doing that to themselves, even if that's what they want :\
Chloe Jennings-White Unfortunately, it's still not the same. It's like when you have say, brown eyes but you want blue eyes (lame example). You can get coloured contacts which still allows you to have blue eyes, but it still isn't the same. When you wake up in the morning yo won't all of a sudden have your blue contacts in. A really lame example, but there. I'm sure there are a lot of people who are genuinely disabled in this way and they would do anything to have the same opportunities as people who aren't disabled. Hope I didn't sound like an asshole.
and she wont be able to get off her wheel chair to push it down the steps of her front yard and into the car..... some people should most definitely be lock up in a rubber chamber!
Joanna Kpelafia The surgery I seek is to convert the existing monoparesis (partial paralysis) in my left leg to monoplegia. This does not affect the right leg in any way. People with monoplegia are perfectly able to get around with a single leg brace, and they are perfectly able to get a wheelchair up and down steps. I have plenty of friends with disabilities who do exactly what I do. Your assertion is incorrect.
that is just ridiculous lol ...he is pushing her up a hill... BIID or not, your legs work therefore you are walking up that hill lol .... probably why he is her friend and not me ....
Chloe Jennings-White People don't go for walk in cars....also, do you ever see people pushing a car up a hill that works fine with a full tank of gas? Nope. Doesn't happen.
If we accept people who have Gender Identity Disorder, then we must also accept people with Body Integrity Identity Disorder. People should stop slagging her off
Absolutely not the same, difference is, gender dysphoria is something people are born with, chemical wirings of the brain not aligning with the physical body, whereas this is not an innate mismatch or rejection and occurs as a result of mental illness. The innate neurochemical mismatch of trans people suggests it's not an environment issue
Saying that she shouldn't wish to be paralysed because she'll have to suffer what many paralysed people go through is like saying that a transgender woman shouldn't wish to be a woman, because she will have to suffer the misoginy that "real" women face in real life. Also funny how most people seem to have a general grasp of depression and suicide, but completely fail to understand that this is also a psychiatric disorder. There are MULTIPLE psychological disorders that cause a person to wish to harm themself in some way, and it just so happens that hers is losing the use of her legs.
Not to be a jerk but how does she have a driver license when she suffers from such disorder? She could be a danger for everyone in traffic.
Andi Hăndru. Very true
Andi Hăndru. Excellent point.
True, she could cause other people to be die or be palaryzed just to get what she dreamed of
Agreed.
Esti român?
Do whatever you want to lose your legs. Just please get off the road to avoid endangering others' lives and legs. Thanks.
I agree!!
She doesn't want to hurt others. Don't judge before you read up on it.
@@savannahm9536 If she gets into a car accident just to be paralized, she's endangering other's lives. She needs help.
YES
@@savannahm9536 She literally questioned and could not answer for herself if she purposefully got into an accident, did you even watch the video.
"I want to become permanently paralyzed". "Skiing is essential to me". Makes sense.
Thank goodness someone out there actually knows the winter Paralympics are taking place this week!
Chloe Jennings-White Please, Chloe...Give me a break. Don't even come up with that nonsense statement. For your own good, go seek mental help (which I know you're trying to and I truly hope you succeed). And don't move on with that surgery. Good luck.
I get the sense that the overly aggressive dangerous skiing is on purpose, she's hoping to "accidentally" break her legs or back one of these days.
Victor Chen she probably is hoping for a "skiing accident" if she fantasizes of getting into a car wreck there is no telling how far she will take this.. Especially since she is unable to afford the surgery.. It's messed up and people really need to quit with the excuses for this behavior it's not healthy.. She needs to learn how to be considerate of those who didn't have a choice for being stuck in a wheelchair for the rest of their live.. I don't feel bad for people like this it's just an attempt to get sympathy and attention from others..
"I want to be paralyzed."
"Skiing is my favorite hobby."
Pick one.
She doesn't need a surgery. She needs a new therapist.
Yes... skiing is essential for her .. BUT...THEN AGAIN THIS? smh I wish it I could WALK ...etc no...I' cannot I.. have MS
@@ZEPPYLYNN I'm handicapped and it's not by choice at all. But this disorder is a real disorder. Breath & Shadow, a magazine that only publishes disabled writers, published an article I wrote about BIID.
@chess lover hi
That's another article I wrote.
Or a mercy killing.
THIS MAKES NO SENSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND LIFE ANYMORE
superholly its a desire to have strangers feel sorry for her. Sick n twisted.
It does make sense, cause there's reasons behind everything, except maybe at the quantum level.
Its just we don't understand the reasons for it, maybe some people prefer to feel nothing below the knee, but strongly enough to want to do something about it.
I would have to experience it to really understand what its like.
biid is a form of body dismorphia
Only person I feel sorry for is you (David) because of your ignorance.
David Tap I agree with you it is sick and twisted.. If she does get the surgery done I guarantee she will grow to regret her decision.. Only a lazy person would want to be confined to a wheelchair with others taking care of them.. I feel bad for those who didn't have a choice, not people like this..
this is so offensive to people who actually are paralysed.
Stephanie: Could you please explain to me what it is that you find offensive.
Chloe Jennings-White shes perfectly capable of walking and moving when people who are paralyzed dream of being in her shoes
Maddie Williams exactly
stephanie irwin So nobody is able to explain wherein lies the offense? Or are people suggesting that a female to male transsexual is automatically offended by the existence of a male to female transsexual?
Chloe Jennings-White That's not the same thing at all. She actually wants surgery to not be able to use her legs, while disabled people can't have surgery to be able to walk. Also, it seems like she is a hypocrite because she doesn't think of her legs when she's skiing. It just doesn't seem right to me.
I'm on the weird side of the Internet again
+Jade Skylar Morrison WTF?? how did I get here?
Y would u want to be paralyzed
Brenda Luna same
Rachel Leovan . It is because of a congenital brain anomaly in the right superior parietal lobule.
Brenda Luna I think at this point, the entire internet and site of TH-cam is the weird side of the net and TH-cam. welcome to the world.
Something tells me she would regret actually going through with it
I have checked this and being transabled is a genuine medical condition, which is really sad but that’s just how they’re born.
This is a real mental illness, it’s not something she’s making up, she wouldn’t regret, you can’t give your opinion about this if you don’t live or don’t even inform yourself about it
Don't bet on it. Still no signs that _he_ regrets transitioning.
She would cause she’ll be shitting and pissing on herself then she won’t be able to go oh let me get up and go pee real quick
Wanna see that regret
The brain is a fascinating and terrifying thing...
+aponiaa ...aaaaaAAAADVENTURE TIME!!! :D cant wait for season 7 xD
legend of the muffinbuff I was so confused but then I realized my icon is Jake LOL I'm looking forward to it too :)
+aponiaa: Yeah especially when you run into a nut job!
Her condition is called transability just like transgender which is also a mental condition.
@This Dude - No, it's not the same thing. That's like saying a SERIAL KILLER is the "same" as someone who commits murder in self-defense.
"I need to be PARALYZED!!!" "I can't live without SKIING!!!" Me: *gives up on humanity*
Befuddling fuckery isn't it.
She’s probably only doing it in the hope of having an accident that breaks both her legs, but if she admitted that they wouldn’t allow her entry anymore
She's actually partially paralyzed in one leg from a skiing accident in 2006. She wants to fully paralyze her leg because it is extremely painful. Don't let the video decieve you. They cut her explanation of everything out.
@Amelia de Farias I was just going to say that!
It is not. Because it is a mental disorder. 🤷
Imagine you're driving on the road and are colliding with her because she deliberately crashed her car to become disabled.
WhiteSlift I don’t think “she’s” really a she
davidpar2 💯💯💯
Yea then u are the one that gets disabled.
She can cause the death of others for the sake of her delusions.They should lock her up
WTH is wrong with people? I just saw another video with a girl blinding herself on purpose🤦🏽♀️ Barcroft Tv why y’all making these stories sounds inspirational for views dammm
Yeah that's sad people who live with disability want to be healthy and live a normal life. and now we found some ungrateful human want to be have disability
Jovi F.S Pemuda indonesia i have Ehlers-Danlos syndrome and have chronic pain, my joints dislocate. I can walk very short distances with crutches but mainly use a wheelchair. Tube fed because of gastroparesis and have epilepsy plus POTS and a list of medical problems. People like her drive me mad, I understand it’s a mental illness. But all I want is to be normal, ever since a child I’ve wanted to be a nurse and I’ve had to realise that dream might not happen, maybe an ambulance dispatcher one day. I just can’t understand why someone would want to be in a wheelchair when they can walk perfectly normal. It’s like when I saw an old lady pushing someone up the hill at the hospital in a wheelchair, the person in the wheelchair just got up and walked up the hill with no crutches or walking stick, no limp, she didn’t seem breathless, just walked completely normally.
It's supposed to highlight the struggles of people who live with BIID and to spread awareness on this condition, not everything on here is supposed to be inspirational but rather spreading awareness to those family members or friends that might also have this.
Me too 🤷😂...... same to video 📷
@@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841 lmao, this is a mental disease, she’s not healthy, and this isn’t something she can control it is a real problem, you need to inform yourself.
"I want to become permanently paralyzed"
"Skiing is essential to me"
Outstanding move
I don’t understand that at all
She wants to paralyze her one leg that is already partially paralyzed and is incredibly painful for her. She wants to paralyze it so she doesn't have to be in that pain anymore. She is i na wheelchair because of fibromyalgia. Don't let them fool you.
Say whaaaa'?
If that was true why wouldn’t she only want that one injured leg to be paralyzed rather than both since the other causes her no pain?
Someone mentioned that they didn’t explain, she has partial paralysis and it is extremely painful so she wants to be fully paralyzed. I assume it’s the cheapest option or possibly the most practical regardless of money. She only wants a necessary surgery and maybe the rest is just so her life is easier. It’s not that crazy if you think about it
I can't stop thinking about the people who ARE actually paralysed.....
Pandarolf: I suspect it is obvious that I too think about them all the time. It is no accident that a very large majority of my friends have substantial disabilities. The very first thing I did at the computer today was to wish my close friend with quadriplegia all the best for her surgery today.
yep, i understand
but still, the world is unfair
Pandarolf
Totally agreed. The friend I referred to was born completely blind and with cerebral palsy. She became quadriplegic at age 22. Very definitely not fair. But it does not inhibit her from being a wonderful human being who fills the world with her kindness.
serg blo
No, she is not remotely pissed off that I want to be paralysed. Why on earth would she be? My paralysis does not affect hers in the slightest. Moreover she is very much looking forward to visiting and learning to sitski with me. Apparently the existence of the Paralympics has completely passed you by. It would have been a great opportunity for you to see how people with varying degrees of paralysis are able to ski. I suggest you Google Muffy Davis for a good example.
Thank you for the questions.
serg blo
There are many paths to wisdom. One that is very effective is to find friends of great diversity. That way one may see the world from many different perspectives. I find that friends with gender variance are extremely helpful. A female to male transsexual may hate their female body. A male to female transsexual may hate their male body. Yet these two groups of people are not pissed off with each other. They recognise that they are fellow travelers on the same path, yet going in opposite directions. They are able to understand each other. I have found that exactly the same thing is true of disability. Hundreds of people with disabilities have sought to be my friend as a result of this video. They are more understanding of BIID than any other group of people. You are correct that many people with paralysis wish for it not to be so, though this is far from being universally true. Therefore they understand that I am on the same path, just traveling in the opposite direction. This makes for wonderful mutually supportive friendships. I am not pissed off with people who are paralysed, just as they are not pissed off with me. They appreciate that my situation validates their perspective. They also appreciate that my situation validates that they are not in any way lesser or inferior beings for being paralysed. We understand each other.
My left leg has been partially paralysed since my accidental spinal cord injury in 2006. So I do know what you are talking about. I have, for example, been completely unable to run since my SCI. I would not wish this on anyone who did not want it. The key to mutual understanding is always to recognise that everybody is different. Different people desire different things. People being different does not make one person better than another person.
So far, the only cure that has been found successful for treating BIID is acquisition of the needed impairment. Psychotherapy or medications have not been found effective. Those with BIID who have acquired the appropriate physical impairment describe a sense of intense relief from the burden of BIID, in addition to dissipation of the frequently associated depression. They are thus able to continue with happy and productive lives.
Thank you for your interesting comments and kind words.
As a paraplegic for 29 years (industrial accident at 19 years of age, helping a coworker) it's a bit offensive that she pretends to be paralyzed. I'm sure she parks in disabled parking spots and uses disabled bathroom stalls to "live the dream".. She needs some intensive Pacheco therapy before she really does become spinal cord injured. Although you can have a very fulfilling, happy life as a paraplegic or quadriplegic, it's a life no one should ever want to experience voluntarily. Not being able to walk is very minor issue, but the impact to bowel/bladder and sexual function are monumental adjustments for the newly injured. I sincerely hope she gets help before her fantasy is her new reality.
Psycho therapy, not Pacheco lol
Obviously I already have impact on bladder and sexual function, etc, due to my 2006 SCI. I am interested to know exactly what it is that you find offensive, since I most certainly have no intent to offend.
+Chloe Jennings-White he finds it offensive that you are pretending to be paraplegic when you are not and taking advantage of the aid given to legitimate paraplegic people
No, that can not be the source of offence since I do not pretend to be paraplegic. Consequently, there is no way I can take any advantage of aid given to people with paraplegia. To the contrary, I am completely open about having BIID. I would be interested to know where you think I have ever said that I pretend to be paraplegic?
+Chloe Jennings-White in the video it states that you "chose to live your life as a paraplegic" so therefore you are pretending as you say yourself in the video that you "fantasise about having a car wreck and becoming a paraplegic" so again you are admitting that you are pretending
As an actually disabled person (not in a chair yet) this makes me profoundly angry. I keep trying to tell myself that it's a mental illness, but I would actually contemplate murder if it meant my daily torture would be over. The idea of becoming disabled intentionally... it's literally hell. My life as I knew it is over. My future is gone, my dreams are dead. There are only so many resources to help disabled people. I keep trying to tell myself that people like this are sick too, but I am so unbelievably angry that this is a thing.
Completely valid response. One of the first things I thought watching this was how offensive and upsetting for a person with disabilities to watch this.
this is a mental illness not someone being disrespectful. it isnt about you, its about themselves. in a way this is also a disability, a mental one. again, its not about you, its about them. they are dissatisfied with their limb, they dont see their limb as their own, their brain doesnt recognize it, and they want it gone. being mean to them will not help them, they will probably just amputate themselves and possibly die.
I'm disabled I used to be in a wheel chair and I would rather live like her compared to what my is rn
@@eagenthorror i dont think its wise, to think of every psychological phenomenon as a fix attribute of that persons being that needs to be respected and cultivated. maybe it is a trauma of that persons childhood or something like that ? my first thought when i heard of these people (that want to be disabled) today, was maybe theyve never got the attention, respect and love that they needed and deserved, when they were young. the lack of these basic human needs couldve made them wish they were somehow disabled to be able to force other peoples compassion. which would be reasonable, but still not right and not good for anyone. i think she would be a happyer person if she managed to overcome this trauma (this is all hypothetical ofc - just my mind trying to make sense of this).
@@eagenthorror but this is wrong and being Permanently Paralysed is not the solution;she just hurt herselfs for no reason if she fell like that go to the terapist go to somone she loves go to the doctor
it"s like you are destroying youre body for no reason;with all my respect but no this is completly wrong;she is perfect and you choose not being perfect god prefer her to be helthy but she want to hurt herself;fell the pein for the actuall people with disabilities;why does she choose to feel this pain; even if she fells that happy with this desition at the end of the day she is just hurting herself please stop
normalizing this;they shoud look for an other solution;The next in thing will be transalive. Where suicide will become an identity and their rights protected cause we fear to offend them. Mental Illnesses are now celebrated rather than treated.
I have an idea.
How about you keep playing pretend, save yourself $25,000, and keep your ability to be able to ski. Everybody wins.
Kelly: This is indeed a sensible suggestion, and one which suffices for many with BIID. It has worked for me during the last five years. I am a little confused as to what you mean by "playing pretend". I never pretend that I am paraplegic, nor have I ever told anybody that I am paraplegic. As for using a wheelchair, I have already explained here many times that my physician recommends it in order to reduce the likelihood of stroke.
Chloe Jennings-White
Well, the definition of playing pretend is to fantasize about something while acting it out. If you are not a paraplegic, and yet you get into a wheelchair and fantasize about being one, then you are playing pretend. Based on the video, that is what you basically said you are doing. Its not meant to be offensive, its just a statement of what you are doing. Plain and simple. Nothing in the video says anything about you having some kind of condition that confines you to a wheelchair to prevent stroke. I've personally never head of a doctor suggesting something like that, but then again I'm not doctor myself, so I wouldn't know. Honestly, I'm not sure what you mean by that. The video was pretty clear about your condition. "You want to be paralyzed because you think it will make you happy. You have a condition called BIID. You restrict the movement of you legs, and have started using a wheelchair full time. You want a surgery to paralyze yourself." Unless I missed something, there was no mention of stroke prevention or any other reason for you to be in the wheelchair beyond that of you wanting to be in a wheelchair. Now if that's not the case, then you should contact the people who made the video and tell them to get it straight, but given every other thing that this video says, personally I'd have to believe that is the case. Now, don't get me wrong, you have something that's been categorized as a mental condition, I don't judge you. If you want to live that way, there is nothing stopping you, least of all me or my opinion. My above suggestion was that you continue as you are so that you can keep the use of your legs and still feel disabled. That's all it was, that's all I intended for it to be.
KellySmith555 You are absolutely correct that the video leaves out HUGE aspects of my life that are relevant to BIID. This is necessarily so since it is only ~5 minutes long. There exists an hour long radio program on National Public Radio which goes into much more detail about me and BIID. The director of the video here explicitly said that they wanted to leave out anything regarding my physical medical conditions. The ones of significance are as follows:
Congenital moderate reverse slope hearing loss. Left septal leukoplasia since 1980. Fibromyalgia since August 1986. Category D T10-T12 spinal compression injury in December 2006. The SCI leaves me with chronic back pain, amongst many other things. This causes spikes in blood pressure which leave me at risk for stroke. Many people assume that a wheelchair is medically advised only for inability to walk. This is a misconception. Some people are prescribed a wheelchair in order to mitigate back pain. No I am not "confined" to a wheelchair. The exact words from my physician are "Use the wheelchair as much as practicable." She is well aware of my BIID, so she knew that I would have good tolerance of this. The bottom line is that you can not possibly know everything about my life in five minutes. The film crew was here for two full days in order to produce this video. The people making the video are very well aware of all these extra details. I have zero editorial control over what they put in and what they leave out. Simple mathematics will tell you that at least 95% of what I said necessarily got left out.
I could go into a similarly detailed discussion about what is actually in my head when I'm using a wheelchair. But I don't want to bore people with a lengthy discourse about myself unless they express specific interest in a particular aspect. At any rate your suggestion is intelligent and well taken. Thank you for that.
Chloe Jennings-White Hearing loss does not necessitate the use of a wheelchair. Septal Leukoplasia does not necessitate the use of a wheelchair. Chronic back pain does not necessitate the use of a wheelchair.They sure don't stop you flying down a ski slope whenever you fancy. There is no physical reason for you to pretend to use a wheelchair. If you're going to defend your mental illness at least do it properly.
Dave Peers I have no idea what you mean by "pretend to use a wheelchair". Either you use one or you don't.
i'm a partial quadriplegic and this just breaks my heart there are no words what i wouldn't give to trade bodies problem solved
Yes indeed, every person with BIID would want to trade bodies too. You may get your wish some day.
Chloe Jennings-White that isn't a real condition she needs to go to an asylum
If you don't know about something you can Google it...
michaelsjourney87 sorry
michaelsjourney87 Im so sorry. These type of people are a disgrace.
Real paraplegics who have suffered real pain and tragedies, would give up anything to be in her position. Swear the women is sick...
Stas Kara Who gives a fuck about what real paraplegics want, they have nothing to do with this woman, she can't transfer her ability to walk to them. Chances are if you're paralyzed you're not going to be able to walk again, and hating on this woman and being bitter about it sure isn't going to allow you to walk again, so fuck off.
Aurora Carmody She's just selfish and who in their right mind would want to become a paraplegic? Its offensive to anyone who has lost the ability to walk and experience life as a normal person. And telling me to fuck off makes you look incredibly dumb seeing as I've done nothing but express my opinion.
Stas Kara her mental disability is no different from your physical one. Just like you didnt chhose to be paralyzed she didn't choose to have a mental illness.
Aurora Carmody I'm not paralyzed but i do know a lot of people who are. Don't go making stupid assumptions like that to anyone, its very ignorant. and to me and many others, this just looks like another attention seeking moron who really doesn't need to be out there expressing her idiotic desires on TV. save it for the institution.
Stas Kara I didn't assume anything, the way your last comment was written made it seem like you were paralyzed yourself. Seeing as you're not paralyzed, don't speak for paralyzed people.
My boyfriend was comforting me the other day with "don't worry the other people on the road are not trying to get into accidents" lies!!!
my girlfriend’s dad is making jokes about getting into car accidents a lot, i’m actually quite worried for him at this point.
LMAO XD yup
People like this are a minority, though most people do not want to get wrecked
so she wants to be paralyzed but skies? likes like saying you want to be jewish but still eats bacon
As I say to everyone who makes this comment, watch the Paralympics starting March 7th and learn something.
well those people in the Paralympics don't just magically have their legs working that day to ski with now do they?
Ginissi
Exactly. Don't you wonder how I am able to ski with monoparesis?
"Jewish" is not just a religion. It is a racial identity and a Jew can have any religion.
Which is not quite true about this person......
You can 100% eat bacon and be Jewish. The same way you can have haircuts and be Christian.
I have a real physical disability and this makes my blood boil. I wish I could say “Oh you know what? I’m meant to be healthy!” and it would just happen.
But its a physcological condition, this poor woman cannot control it
I 💯 agree! I wish the very same thing as a disabled chronically ill person. If I could be well, just for my family, I would. So very selfish. 🙄
Exactly! If she has actual nerve issues though, she should focus on trying to get help for that. If she wants sympathy put her with the trans community. I personally as a disabled person don't want her accepted into the disabled community. Could you imagine the damage this could do? I don't think she even thinks about how everything will change especially with her blater and bowel
@@HiImlizzmitchell Totally agree!
@@thatonekidonaboat1269 she can sure as hell control it more than real disabled people!
I am in a wheelchair in real life due to neuropathy....I wouldn’t wish what I have on anybody, even if I disliked them. It pains me to see that somebody actually wants to lose the ability to run, swim, have fun, or even being able to feel things on your legs. I hope she realizes that she is perfect the way she is and doesn’t need to be in a wheelchair. I also hope there will be a cure for BIID very soon.
Edit: I used to be able to ski and I loved it, she should love the fact that she can ski. I truly wish that she gets help.
I have Osteogenesis Imperfecta, Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CRPS), peripheral neuropathy, scoliosis, and other messed up stuff. I completely agree and sympathize with you, and not in an annoying attention-seeking way.
@@od3stroyer771 uh-
@@od3stroyer771 says the person who liked their own comment.
please, be more considerate next time when you want to write snappy comments
I have Short Fiber Neuropathy it's taking over my whole body it's so painful and I'm so weak now I think I might end up in a wheelchair..hope you are feeling ok
Fun fact: White is not a woman but a man who thinks he's a woman.
As someone who is permanently disabled with a diagnosis of Cerebral Palsy I find this completely disgusting and insulting!!!!! The doctors who agree to do these operations should lose their license!!!! It's an insult to those who would love to change their disability and cannot!!!! I do not acknowledge this "disorder"
Infuriating!!!!!!!
I definitly agree
i can see why it must feel horrible if you didn't choose to be disabled and some people would willingly give up what you would desperately wish for. still it should be taken seriously because it is an actual disorder. i think they should be able to get the help they need but it might make a lot more sense to try to "fix" the disorder instead of just giving them disabilities... there was another video i saw on this disorder and a doctor helped the woman go blind.... it's a tricky situation. if they don't take money for it i might agree with it - i work as a nurse and i've learned about cases of assisted suicide. it's illegal but some of these people are so glad to get the help to end their life.
@@warriorprincess3972
"assisted suicide"
You mean euthanasia?
Agree. This woman is a complete joke
It's her life bro... respect it
she is not safe on the road, and clearly is selfish, since she cares more about being paralysed then others safety
Damiemdude park bom
"Suicidal people" are also selfish,they just want to die and not care about others.
Wait...25000 bucks to mess your legs up. Whaaat.
I'll mess em up for no money
Alize TAylor I’ll do it for free
I can help out with my surgical bat, for a fraction of the cost quoted.
She just needs to be taken to the vet and put down humanely
People will pay for anything
You know where they used to put people like this? Insane asylums.
Your name fits this video so much
de conconsontrassyon on
~a supreme intellectual free thinker.
Thankfully those times are behind us
They used to put everyone who didn’t conform to societal norms into asylums, and then they would just rot there and go even more insane. There was a whole movement led by Dorothea Dix to reform the treatment of those with mental disorders so stop trying to glorify asylums. This woman obviously has a mental disorder that needs to be treated, but asylums aren’t the answer.
I believe the moment she becomes permanently paralyzed. She will regret it. She needs a lot of therapy and God.
therapy, sure. god, eh, doesn’t help everyone
Amen!!!
Don't bet on it. _He_ doesn't regret transitioning.
I watched one of sb who amputated both legs then regretted it
@@SirBlackReeds huh?
Why do people completely shrug off the validity of this disorder? This is obviously something this woman REALLY struggled with. Think about it, do you desire to paralyze yourself? No. Think about the act of purposefully paralyzing yourself. There is nothing about that that sounds desirable. (To me and likely not to you) So what I'm saying is, there HAS to be some kind of misfire in the brain to cause someone to feel this way. My heart goes out to this woman and anyone suffering from this or anything similar. Your feelings are valid.
Bre Stimson an asylum would help us all
Clorox Bleach your username is edgy.
Right, but she gets defensive. She aligns herself with the disabled community who had no say in their disability. And she wants to be one like she suffers just as much. Oh my god, woman. Walking is such a pain!
Finally, a sane voice among the multitude of imbeciles in this comment section.
Thank you !! people slandering her fail to understand that she really has a psychological disorder! anyone who wants to purposely paralyze themselves does not have good mental health. I may not understand but mental illness is very very real , and i hope she finds a healthy way to cope instead of paralyzing herself
This is such a sad, and odd disorder to have.
Oddest one with same disorder the woman paid someone to become blind
Someone in the comments said " the brain is a beautiful and terrifying thing to have" couldn't be more true
You might find it odd and i get why but this is NOT a choice if i could throw these feelings, this pain into the dark deep ocean i would.
This reminds me of the lady that made herself blind on purpose .. I just can’t wrap my head around this mental illness , it’s Crazy ppl want to be disabled when there’s ppl out here wishing the could walk or see or whatever the case may be, it’s just sad tbh ..
It's like how crazy it is how some people wish they were dead while there's others with terminal illness. Although suicidal thoughts are taken a lot more seriously and blamed less than this mental illness.
So i have autism, which, like most mental dissabilities, is invisible. I was bullied a lot, because people just dont understand. As a kid, i used to wish i was physically disabled, just so people would be able to see i was different. But this woman is insane. Never, in my life, have i thought about pretendinh to be physically disabled because it made me feel better. She needs to get some serious help omfg.
I hear you
if they were to remove it from the list of disorders and started allowing them to get medical treatment to cut off or break their limbs or go blind all because they feel this way, would you be for it and think the world needs to accept it? They're not hurting anyone else right. It will make them happier and be who they truly are. Reminds me of another group that used to be on that list.
@@dsimon2108 👀👀
Stuff like this was bound to happen. Life has become way too easy and we're bored. A larger population also makes the odds of weird things like this occurring increase.
Yea, I'm guessing you don't see too much of this in Cambodia or Sierra Leone
Imagine struggling to put food on the table but wanting to lose your ability to fully function. We've become sick as a society
@@musikinspace It's mental illness, not some grand fall in society.
Her obsessive desires absolutely aren’t a result of “Life being too easy” I think anyone completely willing to paralyse themselves over an obsessive desire is absolutely experiencing a major illness that is dominating their mind. Her desire to be paralysed likely isn’t a result of her own free will and is very likely an indicator of a very deep and extreme mental disorder or ailment.
The only reason she likes to ski is because she wants to have an accident that will make her paraplegic
Aggelos: Ah, I'm glad some people understand this! Some people commenting here seem to think there is a contradiction, when in fact they go hand in hand. Skiing is the number one sport that puts people at risk from paraplegia. Indeed my own category D spinal cord injury comes from a 2006 skiing accident. Moreover, the surgeon who wanted to stabilise my spine with metal rods warned me that I should never ski again because my existing injury puts me at a higher risk of paralysis.
It is refreshing to see someone use intelligence in their comments here. Thank you for that.
you're welcome!!!
Body: I'm doing everything I can to keep us alive and healt-
Brain: I want permanent paralysis
Body: am I a joke to you?
I kind of find this disturbing. Not that she has a mental illness, many people do, but because people that truly did lose use of vital body parts will never get that back. We need to realize how lucky we are to function fully. I understand that she has a mental illness but it just hurts to think that someone would want to lose something so special.
Maybe it's not really that special after all just maybe
Yes but it could be proof of past lives or something, it is associated with brain impulses and a lobe of the brain being affected making her think she was destined to be paraplegic. I don’t judge her at all, we humans have evolved and neuroscientists are still trying to understand what makes people tick
@@conorsmith8551It is the result of making Truth relative
i feel so bad for her. imagine being so unwell that you want to do permanent damage to yourself like that. i know it's easy to hate her for this, & i understand if you do, but you really gotta pity someone who is that level of ill honestly
Dawg it’s not being unwell it’s just body parts missing from your brainmap and it feels nice to just not walk at least sometimes
Saw this from another video: This is Body Integrity Disorder. It's due to a disconnect in the parietal sensory S1 receptor in which normally gives a person body awareness. I.e. you can close your eyes and identify your body as your own and spatially account for all your limbs and fingers. Simply put, a person with Body Integrity disorder has a lesion in this pathway so that they do not recognize a portion of their bodies as their own. It's most common in the left arm. It's almost as if living with constant anxiety that a foreign being is growing on your body. As if a stranger is constantly touching you. This is why it was previously treated as anxiety/OCD. Amputation "completes" their body maps and they can now account for their entire bodies. Further studies are being done to understand this disease
Not true at all lol. Do you know what a lesion is??
Why wasn’t this around 50 or 100 years ago? I think all neuroses are due to the stresses of modern living.
@@plumeria66 First case of this disorder was reported in the mid 18th century.
is she serious??? there are ppl who wish they could walk
Yeah, and she wishes she couldn't. What's your point?
Michael Meissner What you mean whats her point. You an idiot?
bigbullbk
No, I am not an idiot. I mean what I said: What is her point? There are people who wish they could walk, and this is a woman who wishes she couldn't. What's the problem? Why ask "is she serious???" when it's obvious she is?
bigbullbk you are right, there are people that want to walk and have gotten into serious accidents.. young children that end up with no legs.. she's a moron..
annie T
Actually there is no evidence linking BIID with diminished intelligence. I have a PhD from the University of Cambridge, I have been a vice president of two companies, I have more than a hundred published scientific papers. It betrays a profound ignorance of psychology to assert that psychological conditions imply low mental capacity. Try watching the movie "A Brilliant Mind".
People with this disorder need to go to the psych ward immediately
I agree
Completely disagree. If they are in danger of hurting themselves or others to fulfill the desires of their mental illness, then yes. They need psychiatric help.
But if they are just struggling but not trying to get hurt, then no.
@@kaitie648 she intially got into a car crash to become paralyzed
@d b I'm trans and we don't like being compared to these people. It's a lazy analogy because it's not anywhere close to being the same thing.
@@kaitie648 I agree. People should only be locked up if they are a danger to themselves or others. There are plenty of people with mental illness that still function enough to live on their own which is the goal tbh. I don't really understand what's up with this lady, but it seems some sort of medical thing that's not yet fully understood.
"I want to be paralyzed. But skiing is essential to me." o____o
Oh god.. I used to bandage my ankle and wear a knee brace to get out of gym class.. I honestly hope I don't turn into her.. D:
If there are ulterior motives then by definition it is not BIID. So you should be safe.
I did the same thing haha. I would bandage my ankle to get out of gym. Then before I went to the next period after gym i would take it off
I used to make slings out of blankets when I was on my own. Turns out I have a condition that causes chronic pain and fatigue and slings/supports are actually very helpful to me now
Nope. You were just lazy... that's a different kind of mental illness.
You will. Definitely. There is no hope for you. Buy a wheelchair now.
This woman needs to be hospitalized. She's a danger to herself, and others.
3:47 *dramatic close up on hand*
“I wish I was paralyzed”…… “Skiing is essential for me” makes total sense……
One of my greatest fears is being trapped inside my own body and she does it voluntarily
I can't even imagine-
I 100% understand that there are differnt conditions that make people act out of the every day and they can't help it, but this women bugs me, because if she really felt like a wheelchair was her only way to live she wouldn't walk, she wouldn't ski ,she wouldn't hike.
Speaking as a disabled person who have had no choice since she was 11, this women do it when it suits her, which leads me to think she wouldn't really want it 24/7 seeing as she is so educated i wouldn't have thought it would be such a stretch to save or take a loan out for the £15,000 that she need for the operation..
Also if she did go and have it done then i 100% think she shouldn't be able to claime disable benefits as she choose it, life being disabled is not a picnic believe me
Annie: Thank you for elevating yourself above the kindergarten level of comment so frequently seen here. You make intelligent points which are worthy of response:
1. I do not feel like a wheelchair is my only way to live. Trial and error has demonstrated to me that using a wheelchair beyond around 80% of a typical day brings no additional benefit to treating my BIID. This of course is a very common percentage usage for many people with physical disabilities, who indeed use a wheelchair when it suits them. I am assuming that your comment was not intentionally derogatory towards people with conditions such as multiple sclerosis..
2. Skiing is an excellent treatment for my BIID. The primary muscle group used for skiing is the quadriceps. Since my left quadriceps are the muscles most affected by my accidental 2006 spinal cord injury (SCI), it follows that the act of skiing forces me to feel more disabled from this than by any other activity. Although I necessarily put 90% of my weight on my right leg while skiing, it is enough to cause major muscle spasms in my left leg as a result. Again this provides a strong physical validation of my SCI. Most beneficial of all is that the degree of monoparesis is sufficiently increased by skiing that a left leg brace is obligatory for a couple of days afterwards.
3. Disability benefits in the USA are only for people whose ability to work is negatively impacted by their disability. I have been working all the time over the last four and a half years from a wheelchair. Nothing would change in this regard by the conversion of my monoparesis to monoplegia. Consequently, acquiring impairment from the surgery I seek does nothing at all to increase my eligibility for disability benefits. The idea is therefore completely irrelevant.
4. Your saying "life being disabled is not a picnic believe me" is of course very true. However, this does not impart any new knowledge to me because I have myself been physically disabled since 1986. Yes, it sucks. I know! Even were this not the case, I spend the majority of my time most days talking with people who are physically disabled. Thus I am very familiar with the lives of people with everything from blindness to quadriplegia.
5. Not that my finances are anybody's business, but in reality I have spent large amounts of money on supporting my wife who is mostly housebound due to disability. She is unable to drive, etc.
You are more than welcome to ask any further questions you may have. I pledge to answer all of them in good faith. Thank you for your interest. I am sorry that I bug you. It is certainly not my intent.
With very best wishes,
~ Chloe
Thank you for your reply, you don't bug me as everyone is different in this world.
I truley wish you well in your life and which ever road your life take i do hope it brings you happiness. But thank you for your Reply ,brightest blessings
I'm sorry Chloe, but you do seem to choose to be disabled when it suits you. For example, when you got out of your house, you got out of your wheelchair and walked it down the stairs. How convenient.
Ice skating is essential to me but I can't physically do it anymore because of my disabilities, and it kills my soul. I have lost so much due to my disabilities, and you definitely appear to only be "disabled when convenient" Honestly, you don't seem prepared to be 100% paraplegic.
The fact that you also put other's in harms way is appalling and selfish. You should not be allowed to drive if you want to get into a car accident, and honestly can't even recall if your past accident was intentional or not.
Also, how can you complain about how much being disabled "sucks" and then also want to be wheelchair bound? I understand that might be a fantastic thought, but since you haven't actually lived as a wheelchair-bound person, it's a bit ridiculous to know that's what you want, while simultaneously admitting how much it "sucks."
You're intelligent. Find a way to do it yourself, at home, where NO ONE ELSE will be harmed.
BTW Chloe, this is my third BIID video. Yours has been the most absurd simply due to the contradictions.
There was a girl when I was in Fifth grade who broke her arm all the time. And whenever the class would ask how she keeps braking it, she'd say "It was meant to be broken." I found her on Facebook, and apparently she had to see a therapist because her parents found out she did it on purpose.
Body Integrity Disorder. Neurological. The brain doesn’t recognize part(s) of the body. Most often the left arm!
Any surgeon who would do what she wants should be locked in prison for the rest of their life
this woman is just.....wow she is going to regret it.
Actually, people with BIID who get their desored disability's are almost always much, much happier.
By the way crazy lady, you can't walk you're own wheelchair down the stairs when paralyzed
In reality that depends on how much you are paralysed. Many people here do not seem to realise that there are hugely different degrees of paralysis. If you have complete quadriplegia then you are not going to be able to walk your wheelchair down the stairs. On the other hand, the surgery I seek is to convert my existing monoparesis into monoplegia (paralysis of the left leg only). I guarantee you that people with this condition ARE able to walk their wheelchair down the stairs. It is better to get your facts straight before commenting.
that does not change the fact that your crazy
*your
@@sniperjoe1998 Who the heck are YOU to pronounce a fact on someone else's mental state? Where is your medical degree?
I bet the surgeon is in Mexico
Michelle Gauthier probably India or somewhere like that.
Most likely in a lower income country
Want to see her surprise face when she realizes that she can't ski after the surgery. Priceless
I wonder how people that are really paralysed feel about that... I mean... that's horrible to wish such thing...
True. But she is't to blame. Terrible disorder indeed..
Since this video came out I have been invited to join more than 20 disability support groups on line. Hundreds of people with paralysis have requested to be my Facebook friend. They have been far more supportive of me than any other category of people.
Nina; if I believed you were asking a serious question I would give you a serious answer. However, labeling people who have congenital neurological dysfunctions as "insane" is merely willful ignorance.
Nina: "your too ignorant". Ha ha! Brilliant self parody! It's "you're", in case you never went to school...
as someone with a disability it is fucked up I find it offensive whether it's your identity or not.
She shouldn't be allowed to drive. No one with this disorder should.
This is sick and disgusting. I am perfectly healthy but I'm extremely offended for those who actually have had traumatic injuries and are forced to live disabled. Disgusting.
Yes all this "I'm so offended" is indeed disgusting
Although it's hard to fully understand, i have to think, this is a psychological problem and when it comes to the mind... so many things are possible and very hard to understand. What I can't understand is how does the government allow her to still drive when she has openly admitted to possibly causing a bad crash on purpose!! That's risking innocent people's lives.
It's a sexual fantasy to have someone care for you as a disabled person. I think she craves human bonding and affection.
Ah. I remember as a kid I wanted to wear glasses. Though my eyesight naturally went downhill as I go older. I was kinda trilled to get glasses. But then after the a week I was like, "Yeah, this isn't as cool as I thought." The saying goes, "Careful what you wish for."
Me too
Some people desperately want to walk and she can and wants to become paralyzed? Why doesn't she just not walk forever instead of going through surgery?
That is actually a good suggestion which does work for some people with BIID.
***** It is not clear to me why you have never heard of the Paralympics, or are unaware of hand controls for cars. You may easily google such things.
A large majority of my friends with spinal cord injuries follow a bowel program that obviates the need for pooping in a diaper. It sounds like your friends need to acquire the information to manage these things more appropriately. Such information is freely available on line.
Brittney Thies I would be interested to know exactly what it is you think I have no idea about. I assume you are aware that I have an actual SCI from 2006.
Brittney Thies The video is heavily censored. Two days of filming and interviews gets boiled down to five minutes. Obviously you do not get to hear the vast majority of what I said. My editorial control is zero. Your assumption that I was the one who left something out is entirely incorrect. The director and the producer of the video deliberately leave out the fact that I am physically disabled in order to make it more sensational.
i never knew that there was BIID. it's so sad that she wanted to disable her body because a lot of people who are disabled want to be enabled. it's kinda like she's wreaking her health :(
>wishes to be disabled
>uses her foot for support when getting into the weelchair she doesn’t need
>mfw
Many disabled people can do that. Some can walk for a bit too but have to use wheelchairs because it gets extremely painful or because they literally can't continue to walk all of a sudden
I am struggling enormously to understand this lady's major psychological issues. I used to be a nurse in mental health and appreciate that what she is doing and the decisions she is making are symptoms of her illness. However, I keep reading that she needs psychological support but, from what I have read, she is getting this and her only resulting action was to get a wheelchair.
I became disabled 11 years ago and am now a wheelchair user. I cannot comprehend why someone would wish this on oneself. Paraplegia is not just about not being able your legs. It's also about the double incontinence issues, pressure sore prevention and lack of sensation with intimacy. She would need care 24 hours a day - how would it make her family feel?
As a final point - I truly wish I could ski again
It's much like self harm... Well, it is self harm. Not many can fathom why others feel the urge to cut, burn, bruise, pull hair, pick scabs, etc. But, the people who do participate in those harmful activities feel they have a reason. It is really hard to accept her feelings but, I am a strong believer that everyone deserves empathy. Even if you don't agree with them. Now, obviously, she needs a little more help because... Yeah...
@@alician.5950 As a person who used to cut, I think in a lot of cases, it comes from deep emotional pain and self loathing.
I've gotten help and I don't do it anymore, but wow. Those were dark times.
Another important detail I should probably add is that I have Depression.
@@BookBird2963 There are alot of different reasons people self harm I'm so glad you've overcome those dark times 😊. I hope you stay clean for the rest of your life💕
@@alician.5950 Awwwe! Thank you! 💖
Barcroft cut out her explanation of everything. Basically, she was in a horirble skiing accident 6 years prior to this video. She has a spinal cord injury from it and is now partially paraluzed in her left leg. She wants to fully paralyze her left leg because it is extremely painful in the parts she still has feeling in. She's also in a wheelchair because she has fibromyalgia, not to fake being paralyzed. Don't let them fool you.
As a paraplegic by no fault of my own I find this very offensive! I love my life, but wouldn't wish anyone to live the way I do.
I beg you, forgive the woman, she knows nothing...
I became a paraplegic after a serious fall and I find what's she's doing is so offensive.
It's a disorder! It's not her fault!
It's her life... accept that
This is the strangest thing I've ever heard.
This is a disgrace to humanity. A kick in the face for real disabled people.
What kind of doctor would perform an operation like that ?
A greedy one with no morals
The same that turn men into women and vice verser
@@TheSilentWalkerz thats not the same thing actually.....
Someone as sick as she is and a mercenary. They have no regard for the hypocritical oath “first do no harm”. I would love for her to spend a year in my shoes after stroke also considered a brain injury.
@@theresagrosscup1968 get help
and people make fun of me for being Transgender, i will never understand this world
Gwen: I am the "I" in the LGBTQI community, and consequently I have many friends who are "T". After people with disabilities, I find that people with gender variance are numerically the most significant group that is accepting and understanding of BIID, on account of the strong analogies.
I am very sorry that people make fun of you. People can be astonishingly ignorant. I guess I am lucky that nobody makes fun of me being intersexed in real life. I have a 100% acceptance rate. On the internet of course, people who hate will usually hate absolutely anybody for absolutely anything. So yes, I would not be at all surprised by those who come a-trolling here if they throw what is considered by some to be a birth defect in my face as if it were something I should be ashamed of.
I wasn't quite sure what it was you are saying you are not understanding. People who make fun of BIID? People who make fun of those who are Transgender? Or both?
All best wishes, and be proud of who you are!
~ Chloe
People who judge you because you are transgendered.. are just plain rude and clearly they don't understand. It's sad in this society some people don't have any idea how it is to live on a day to day basis living transgendered. Sometimes it's not by choice and people are just born that way. Please don't take those people to heart who have hurt you and be happy for who you are.. always love yourself. Even though I don't know you.. but it breaks my heart to hear any discrimination because of their sex. It's up to you but if you ever need support or just someone to talk with.. I'll be more than glad to make another friend. I hope this helps. Be strong & always stand your ground.
Being L or G, or B, or Ts, or Tg is not a "Mental Illness" whatever the God Botherers' say. This woman has a "Mental Illness" and should be helped not pandered to.
I'm guessing that a lot of people who make fun of you secretly are attracted to you or envy you and making fun of you is a sort of twisted coping mechanism due to their inability to accept how they truly feel. My nephew is gay and got picked on a lot in middle school as a result. He confided in me when he was 10 and that he knew when he was 7. I knew before he told me but sometimes you gotta let a person work up to that point in their own time but I digress. When he was a sophomore in high school he discovered that the boy who was his chief antagonist in the 7th grade in fact had a secret crush on him and so to deflect suspicion that he was gay he picked on my nephew. But he also used it as an excuse to get close to my nephew without anyone suspecting he had the hots for my nephew. They have been dating since and this spring they will be going to the Senior prom together. Things are often more complicated then they appear on the outside.
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This makes me so fucking angry. People who are actually disabled would do anything to be able to walk and there she is, having the gift of being able to walk and WANTING to be paraplegic
Fabio Mattison ITS A DISORDER. I HAVE IT TOO. YOU CANT JUST GET OVER IT. ITS STRESSFUL. IT GIVES YOU DEPRESSION! You can't just ignore it.
Fabio Mattison, it's a real disorder! Don't get angry over real disorders that can kill people.
@FABIO MATTISON I agree with you. I have cerebral palsy and am confined to a wheelchair, trust me it's not something I want.
If he truly wants to be paralyzed, and can afford the surgery then let him…..just make sure he knows before the surgery he will NOT be able to draw ANY government assistance, whatever is needed for future health and existence is at his own expense.
Instead of spending $25k on the surgery, spend it on getting psychiatric treatment
"I want to be paralyzed -also I still ski "- How Sway ???
Being paralyzed would be my worst nightmare, as I love hiking and being in the woods more than anything, it is hard to comprehend that would want to be in a wheelchair.
I am afraid they will make this mandatory as they do with transGender ..........
I also draw this comparison. Where should tolerance end ad where does perversity begin
@@amina-pr8xt that is why Islam have zero tolerance with LGBTQ and other non-sense movements
“Will be the happiest day of my life” you’re nuts lady, why would you want to do that with yourself ? People out here suffer from it and you think it’s satisfying
Barcroft cut out her explanation of everything. Basically, she was in a horirble skiing accident 6 years prior to this video. She has a spinal cord injury from it and is now partially paraluzed in her left leg. She wants to fully paralyze her left leg because it is extremely painful in the parts she still has feeling in. She's also in a wheelchair because she has fibromyalgia, not to fake being paralyzed. Don't let them fool you.
What is it that those OTHER people have to do with this?
!!!"!££"%? Whoever this surgeon is, they should be stripped of their title!
Browsin4Vids She is only demanding this because she is mentally ill!!!! Plus the result of his work would be to create another person dependent on benefits It's wrong anyway you look at it.
So selfish! What if she actually does get in a car crash on purpose but she survives and the person she hits gets badly injured. Wow i can't believe this lady
What’s the difference between this and believing you are the wrong gender? No hate I’m genuinely interested
Yup, in that part of youtube again.
Oh my god!!! who does this??!!! instead of thanking god for this privilege you have, you are willing to spend money to paralyze yourself?!! it hurts seeing that someone could think like this, specially an educated one. pure shame
"God" didn't give Her legs unless you've witnesses God and seen God giver her legs. As much as she wants her legs removed you believe in an invisible daddy.
well if you don't believe in GOD keep it to yourself and don't bother replying to my comments. i won't judge you and you have absolutely no right in judging me
Nora Nasef agree, this is disgusting. but thank god? wtf thats bullshit. if there is a god he/she/it dont give jack shit about her, me, you or anyone.
Nora Nasef well if you don't believe that biid is real then keep it to yourself . it's her life. Let her live it. As a wheelchair user I take offense to the idea that being abledbodied is a privilege and we should just spend our days crying out not being able to walk. Do you really think that someone like Stephen Hawking would trade his life for yours simply because you can walk?
Why doesn't she go to a psychologist to help her with that instead? She's not even thinking this through if she loves skiing.. I hope she never gets 25k!
Those who are capable of thought will be watching the Paralympics.
Pretty sure the video states quite clearly that she is already visiting a therapist.
seraphiccandy21
Yes, that is correct. I have had a huge amount of psychotherapy. It has been extremely valuable for improving my self acceptance and self confidence in regard to BIID. I most certainly would not have been able to publicly make myself so vulnerable without it. Unfortunately it is known that psychotherapy can do nothing to help the BIID itself.
I’m supposed to be paralysed. I’m supposed to be a woman.
Hmm.. $25,000 could either get you a base model Jeep Wrangler or the ability to never do anything for yourself ever again, let me think...
Okay! That's it enough internet for today 🤦♀️
As a disabled woman I am shocked by this a little because I wasn’t born disabled, believe it or not my problems started at school another child pulled a chair away from behind me accidentally because he wasn’t looking at what he was doing and chatting to another student, and I knew/thought the chair was there and went to sit down it was a solid concrete floor and I sat down with such a force that it jolted my spine, I think genetically I wasn’t right anyway because on my mum and dads side of the family there are a lot of different health problems anyway, for example my mum was born with slight scoliosis (curvature of the spine) and ended up with chronic heart disease and died of a heart attack in sept 2014 and my dad ended up with heart problems and he had chronic back problems when he was older and even had about 3 or 4 operations on his back over the years and he died in March 2014 of secondary bowel cancer, so at first I was shocked that a little accident like that caused so much pain and so many problems at the age of 15 yrs old because when we r young we think we will bounce back from anything, but I just didn’t, I was off school from the chair incident for about 2-3 months having to undergo lots of mri scans and lots of physio therapy too, then when I was 18 I was a passenger in a friends car and I didn’t put my seat belt on (totally my own fault) and she crashed into the back of the car in front so that further aggravated my back problems and I hurt my knee and hit my head in the windscreen I was very lucky that we wasn’t going fast at all, it was believe it or not the fault of the driver in front, she was actually behind us and she over took us dangerously and then once she got in front she slammed on her breaks and my mate couldn’t stop in time, my mates car was a wreck!, the woman got straight out the car moaning at me n my mate then ran across the road to a pay phone to call her husband me n my mate in agony slowly walked over to also use the phone and the woman had the audacity to ask if we had change for the phone and I know how soft my mate is and I said “sorry no we don’t, we got enough to make a phone call ourselves that’s it” she managed to make her call as she went into a shop we then made a call and slowly went back to the car,
she has a mental disorder, stop the bloody hate
+Saadia Sattar He sure does, he is trans.
I don't care what the disorder is. It's insulting to actual disabled people like myself.
Psychological disorder today. Sexual Identity tomorrow 🤷♂
Mental institutions need to be reopened asap. There is no way this woman should be on her own.
As someone who has a paralysed family member this is messed up, she needs help not surgery
If you want to anihilate your legs I can do that for you.
At this point.. I'm embarrassed to have myself exist in this generation
Lmao
Her drivers license needs to be taken!! She could hurt someone trying to fulfill her own fantasies and that is beyond wrong!
Sick. Why would you want to be dependent on others??? There are million who would be happy to have your working body. You will be shortening your life.
BIID is a neurological disorder that is present since birth. It effects how the brain maps itself out and how the brain perceives parts of the body. It has been scientifically proven the only treatment for BIID is to make the brain map align with itself. This can be done through amputation if one has persistent feelings of being an amputee. No amount of therapy can get rid of a neurological disorder. This is how the brain is wired and developed. It is not a mental disorder.
She fantasizing about being in a car crash? Now that _is_ something most of us wouldn't want now is it? Yet there are people trying to justify the logic in this nightmarish desire. Call me a wierdo, but I am actually OK with having fully functioning legs-there really rather _useful_ and I want them to stay that way till my numbers up.
Should I see a shrink about my 'keepmylegsworkingproperly' syndrome?
Doesn't she realise that if she does become paralysed, she won't be able to do stuff like skiing any more? Why can't she just pretend because I hate the thought of someone doing that to themselves, even if that's what they want :\
Please be sure to watch the Paralympic coverage on NBC starting on March 7th. Please pay a lot of attention to the paralysed skiers.
Chloe Jennings-White Unfortunately, it's still not the same. It's like when you have say, brown eyes but you want blue eyes (lame example). You can get coloured contacts which still allows you to have blue eyes, but it still isn't the same. When you wake up in the morning yo won't all of a sudden have your blue contacts in.
A really lame example, but there. I'm sure there are a lot of people who are genuinely disabled in this way and they would do anything to have the same opportunities as people who aren't disabled.
Hope I didn't sound like an asshole.
and she wont be able to get off her wheel chair to push it down the steps of her front yard and into the car..... some people should most definitely be lock up in a rubber chamber!
Joanna Kpelafia
The surgery I seek is to convert the existing monoparesis (partial paralysis) in my left leg to monoplegia. This does not affect the right leg in any way. People with monoplegia are perfectly able to get around with a single leg brace, and they are perfectly able to get a wheelchair up and down steps. I have plenty of friends with disabilities who do exactly what I do. Your assertion is incorrect.
that is just ridiculous lol ...he is pushing her up a hill... BIID or not, your legs work therefore you are walking up that hill lol .... probably why he is her friend and not me ....
Kudos to you for not using cars.
Chloe Jennings-White People don't go for walk in cars....also, do you ever see people pushing a car up a hill that works fine with a full tank of gas? Nope. Doesn't happen.
I hope that in the meantime she got a new professional psychiatrist who was so urgently needed and did everything to counteract this sick perversion!
This is more about the severely lacking mental health services in our society, than anything else.
1900s: I bet we’ll have flying cars in the future
2013:
1900 people be like- *holy s h i -*
If we accept people who have Gender Identity Disorder, then we must also accept people with Body Integrity Identity Disorder. People should stop slagging her off
Exactly!!
Pretty much the same illness
Absolutely not the same, difference is, gender dysphoria is something people are born with, chemical wirings of the brain not aligning with the physical body, whereas this is not an innate mismatch or rejection and occurs as a result of mental illness.
The innate neurochemical mismatch of trans people suggests it's not an environment issue
How sick. How does she enrage thise that are paralyzed by an accident and wish they can walk again. She needs a life.hobby..
Saying that she shouldn't wish to be paralysed because she'll have to suffer what many paralysed people go through is like saying that a transgender woman shouldn't wish to be a woman, because she will have to suffer the misoginy that "real" women face in real life.
Also funny how most people seem to have a general grasp of depression and suicide, but completely fail to understand that this is also a psychiatric disorder. There are MULTIPLE psychological disorders that cause a person to wish to harm themself in some way, and it just so happens that hers is losing the use of her legs.