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For the TR6S, you can effect the single tracks with effects, but you need to do it via a computer, by downloading the specific ASIO driver (Roland supplies it), separating each out its separate mixer track, and add fxs that way. I've done it with mine once via FL studio, but it seems like the Drumbrute still takes the cake for exports
The TR6S have separate outputs througt the usb port directly in your DAW, I got the drumbrute and the TR6S both are amazig devices, in my opinion DI is perfectly for live perfomance, while TR6S is great for create and rec.
7:27 I honestly had no idea the Drumbrute Impact was anything worth mentioning, but this part here is 👌 ... How is it for sequencing external machines?
Slight addendum, less buttons doesn’t make for a simpler workflow necessarily, don’t know how common this is but POs were harder to learn for me because there was a lot of memorizing sort of unintuitive button combinations. Once you’ve got that muscle memory down sure, but it was a process getting there. Of course my first was the Arcade, which has more going on inside and that colors the experience! Also worth mentioning, as a headphones guy I didn’t know until Ricky Tinez mentioned it, pocket operators BANG on speakers Great video
Great overview…. TR-6S sounds sexy….especially with the heritage drum machines…. I’d have to put 0.5 seconds of silence before each sample , to faux slip a groove into the robot grid .
Great video as usual! My fav drum machine is the Volca Drum, so many possibilty :) (but i like my PO Tonic too) and i really think about the Model Cycles
I think the mc101 is a better choice for a drum machine than the tr6s (at least for the unquantized workflow option), but I'm taking more of a liking to the tr6s
@@LiamKillen Really? The mc101 is highly underrated IMO. Yea, it comes with a lot of samples, but it also has tone generators that can create drum hits like kicks, snares & cymbals as well as other sounds that you can kinda tweak (it pairs well if you have zenology pro). It has a chord mapping, can play sequences in random order, midi notes aren't locked to a grid, you record and resample internal audio via looper tracks, it really is like having a portable daw Apologies if you already knew this, I just really love my mc101 & learning to use the tr6s with it
Funny, PO12 was my gateway to drummachines, and i just bought a Drumbrute Impact ;-) I have one question about the DBI : is it normal to ear kind of buzz/whistle in my earphones, and also in jack output, especially when the disto is at maximum loud and volume knob at two-third or three quarter ? Does it come from the power supply ? Thanks for your help 🙏
Just have to skip my next leky bill .I'm definitely getting the roland even tho i find roland programming and sequence saving a pain . And thats it then .. oldest synth bloke on my street .. technics next year !!!
I sold my Roland TR8S for two reasons. Size and to me it was a machine to play live, which is something I don’t do. I missed having those classic Roland sounds, so I bought a used TR6S. For me, the 6S is better and smaller for studio use. However, I think it is very very unrated, especially with the latest firmware update. It literally is a TR8S but smaller and I absolutely love it. The menu diving and reduced controls isn’t that bad, as the operating system make it all work well. The TR6S paired with an Elektron Syntakt or an Erica Synths LXR-02 is a lethal combination of drums. That’s said, the TR6S also has FM and is a bargain buy for what it can do. Definitely the best value drum machine out there, that really can do it all.
Is that kick problem ever fixed in a update? Hear none of you ‘influencers’ talk about it while i can clearly hear it in all the reviews and make think you dont mention it because a free model or money from arturia
drumbrute win, in common, hardware sound partly depends on the power, drumbrute, and drum sounds just made from noise, and, sine, the decent effect chain was essential, drumbrute, again, drumbrute, actually the comparison was not fair, hope tr 8s, elektron analog rytm can join in. another battery warrior : korg volca drum, volca beats, little fm monster : elektron model cycles.
The Drumbrute “wins” because it has 5 analog audio outputs and the TR-6S looses because it has 6 digital audio outputs (USB Audio)? I’m sorry, I can’t hear you over the quality of the extra digital audio output my TR-6S has ;)
Kind of subjective to a point. I see your argument too I did a comparison between the TR-808 + TR-6S 808 sounds and if you check the comments a lot of people couldn't even tell the difference or actually preferred the 6s! Here's the video: th-cam.com/video/0KTTpNKyOho/w-d-xo.html&t
Meh,. SPDIF and optical has been on gear for decades, and you've always needed a host for it just like USB does. Being able to plug into any amp or audio mixer straight away without fuss is a massive flexibility advantage that no digital I/O has never been able to make obsolete.
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. If you are sending the digital signal out on the Roland, you're just using it as a transport. At some point, it has to be converted to analog, or you can't listen to it. Either way, you are going to be using the analog outputs on the Roland, or on whatever you are using for a dac. As far as the digital vs analog debate goes, all analog components will vary from good to bad, as will all digital products. There's no guarantee which will sound better. A comparison needs to be done on an case by case basis. There's just too many variables at play. Listen to them all and pick the one that sounds best.
@@AT-wl9yq I’m guessing you don’t know that ;) is a smile with a wink. I’m guessing you don’t know that I wasn’t being absolutely correct, but rather pointing out something that wasn’t highlighted in the video in a gentle “ribbing” manner. Having built and repaired analog and digital radios, I’m very familiar with digital and analog electronics. Thanks for the post though.
impression: - TR-6S very versatile but unfortunately sounding more like 'ReBirth advanced' than a drum machine....no wood or rattle to it = all plastique sounding. All the ACB&Zen-core are like this - sounds nice and tidy but not gritty, thick or dirty...detailed and responsive yes, but always sounding _flattened and polite._ - DBI has a near-perfect UI... but a bungled sound engine (again!) - such a confused palette including the worst f*^&%ng clap ever. I'd rather use an MFB which is major a shame since the seq, connectivity and and build are truly great. - PO is a gadget, and not a drum machine. Thanks for the comparo-peek :)
I disagree! I actually did a video comparing it to the og TR-808- check the comments of that video a lot of people either liked the 6s more or couldn't tell the diff: th-cam.com/video/0KTTpNKyOho/w-d-xo.html They're using this new tech called ACB for all of the classic sounds- it's HYPER close to the real thing-
Disagree too! The TR6S sound really, really great... never heard that fat baskicks from Impact, and about the pocked shit we dont't talk (for prof. Musicians it is a play toy, but not usable on stage). Using samples in TR6S is a big plus also!
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The Sequencer of the Impact is so great and you can control a lot of other Drummachines
Yeah Arturia makes great sequencers in general!
I own Drumbrute Impact and it is just so much fun - even on its own. I also like the sounds quite a bit.
I love it but some people just don’t like those sounds.
The winner is: TR6S :) I just bought it, and it is very nice for jamming. I also bought it, about you can use samples too.
Awesome! So glad you ended up purchasing 😊
Im still happy with my tr8-s
Once again .. you leave no stone unturned ..cheers to the process.. easy flow of your videos .. ! Thanks !
Cheerio!
This video was helpful for me when I was trying to decide between the Drumbrute Impact and the TR6s... appreciate the effort.
Thanks For watching Jay!
Arturia nailed it with their randomize knobs, always a musical output
Yeah I love that feature too.
Suns out, drum machines out! I've used the PO-12 in a few songs and it's absolutely massive. 🤘
Yeah it’s got some beef to it for suuuuure!
Tonic, KO, & Sub are the ones i have right now are a superr deep.
Yeah you can do a lot with that!
You have me thinking I should compare my Tonic, TR-6S, and Gotharman’s SpazeDrum.
Never heard the spazedrum!
For the TR6S, you can effect the single tracks with effects, but you need to do it via a computer, by downloading the specific ASIO driver (Roland supplies it), separating each out its separate mixer track, and add fxs that way. I've done it with mine once via FL studio, but it seems like the Drumbrute still takes the cake for exports
Oh cool via software! Very cool
The TR6S have separate outputs througt the usb port directly in your DAW, I got the drumbrute and the TR6S both are amazig devices, in my opinion DI is perfectly for live perfomance, while TR6S is great for create and rec.
Yeah i'm leaning a lot more towards TR-6S these days myself.
7:27 I honestly had no idea the Drumbrute Impact was anything worth mentioning, but this part here is 👌 ... How is it for sequencing external machines?
It’s great! I rarely use it as the brain though.
Fill on PO-12: press REC one time to activate record mode, hold step you want to retrigger, press BPM multiple times.
Thank you for this!
Slight addendum, less buttons doesn’t make for a simpler workflow necessarily, don’t know how common this is but POs were harder to learn for me because there was a lot of memorizing sort of unintuitive button combinations. Once you’ve got that muscle memory down sure, but it was a process getting there. Of course my first was the Arcade, which has more going on inside and that colors the experience!
Also worth mentioning, as a headphones guy I didn’t know until Ricky Tinez mentioned it, pocket operators BANG on speakers
Great video
They do bang!!! It’s pretty incredible actually
Great overview…. TR-6S sounds sexy….especially with the heritage drum machines…. I’d have to put 0.5 seconds of silence before each sample , to faux slip a groove into the robot grid .
thank you for watching :-)
Looking to pull the trigger on drumbrute impact love the sound and features. But is it versatile enough to be my only drum machine ? Hmmmm
I would say no actually - just because the sounds are SO particular.
Cool comparison. Thank you. Can the Tr 6s playback stereo samples (in stereo)?
it certainly can.
@@LiamKillen Starting to get warm with the idea of having one then ......
I have the Roland tr-8s, it´s still my favorite drum machine. The drumbrute impact is worth getting for the kick alone, I don´t like the pockets.
Yeah Drumbrute seems to be love / hate
Great video as usual! My fav drum machine is the Volca Drum, so many possibilty :) (but i like my PO Tonic too) and i really think about the Model Cycles
Model Cycle I would looove to have one of those
Lol. At 08:17 "Oh, it's so awesome" proceeds to look away, then stankface.
When it stanks ya gotta do the stank face lol
I think the mc101 is a better choice for a drum machine than the tr6s (at least for the unquantized workflow option), but I'm taking more of a liking to the tr6s
To me it’s more of like a one shot machine.
@@LiamKillen Really? The mc101 is highly underrated IMO. Yea, it comes with a lot of samples, but it also has tone generators that can create drum hits like kicks, snares & cymbals as well as other sounds that you can kinda tweak (it pairs well if you have zenology pro). It has a chord mapping, can play sequences in random order, midi notes aren't locked to a grid, you record and resample internal audio via looper tracks, it really is like having a portable daw
Apologies if you already knew this, I just really love my mc101 & learning to use the tr6s with it
that minibrute 2s in the back is a "better" arturia drum machine than the impact IMO
Yup
thanks good comparison video. informative.
Thanks for watching - enjoy your week :-)
thank for the video. I love these machines comparisons
Thanks Lucas!
I control the Volca Drum and the Volca Sample with the Drumbrute Impact at the same time
Ouu nice move.
Can you do this video again but add the MPC Live or One?
I’ve got some mpc one content out within the next month or so
Funny, PO12 was my gateway to drummachines, and i just bought a Drumbrute Impact ;-) I have one question about the DBI : is it normal to ear kind of buzz/whistle in my earphones, and also in jack output, especially when the disto is at maximum loud and volume knob at two-third or three quarter ? Does it come from the power supply ? Thanks for your help 🙏
Yeah that shouldn’t be happening and yes it does have its own power supply- that might be the issue!
Franchement merci, tres bonne video mon ami!
Franchement!!! Thanks for watching :-)
Just have to skip my next leky bill .I'm definitely getting the roland even tho i find roland programming and sequence saving a pain . And thats it then .. oldest synth bloke on my street .. technics next year !!!
Haha do what ya gotta do! Hell yeah.
Great one, Liam!
Hey Daniel thanks so much!
Very informative, thank you! Can you sample on the po-12?
no! That’s what i like about it actually
The PO's have gone up in price since some of your videos.
No way actually?
I sold my Roland TR8S for two reasons. Size and to me it was a machine to play live, which is something I don’t do. I missed having those classic Roland sounds, so I bought a used TR6S. For me, the 6S is better and smaller for studio use. However, I think it is very very unrated, especially with the latest firmware update. It literally is a TR8S but smaller and I absolutely love it. The menu diving and reduced controls isn’t that bad, as the operating system make it all work well. The TR6S paired with an Elektron Syntakt or an Erica Synths LXR-02 is a lethal combination of drums. That’s said, the TR6S also has FM and is a bargain buy for what it can do. Definitely the best value drum machine out there, that really can do it all.
I agree whole heartedly! :-)
ya shoulda had the sr16 in this for a complete video
Never tried it!
@@LiamKillen You should! (points @ # of subscribers and raises an eyebrow)
Alesis SR-16 ? A friend of mine has this. And it sounds very nice.would you say it's a better unit then TR-6?? Cheers
I think the Po 32 is more flexible than the Po. 12
That's a fair take.
hahaha this was great video!!
thx for watching! :-)
Is that kick problem ever fixed in a update? Hear none of you ‘influencers’ talk about it while i can clearly hear it in all the reviews and make think you dont mention it because a free model or money from arturia
not sure what you mean my guy
drumbrute win, in common, hardware sound partly depends on the power, drumbrute,
and drum sounds just made from noise, and, sine, the decent effect chain was essential, drumbrute,
again, drumbrute,
actually the comparison was not fair, hope tr 8s, elektron analog rytm can join in.
another battery warrior : korg volca drum, volca beats,
little fm monster : elektron model cycles.
Oh man...analog rhythm...would love to get my hands on one of those.
But all is nice Stuff. Thanx, great Video
I appreciate you
Drumbrute for life!!!!
😊!!!
TR8S .. bit more expensive...Game Over
🤯
@LiamKillen lol...I like the fill and roll dial on the Impact .
great Vid :>
Hey thanks so much Erin! Cheers
The Drumbrute “wins” because it has 5 analog audio outputs and the TR-6S looses because it has 6 digital audio outputs (USB Audio)? I’m sorry, I can’t hear you over the quality of the extra digital audio output my TR-6S has ;)
Kind of subjective to a point. I see your argument too I did a comparison between the TR-808 + TR-6S 808 sounds and if you check the comments a lot of people couldn't even tell the difference or actually preferred the 6s! Here's the video: th-cam.com/video/0KTTpNKyOho/w-d-xo.html&t
Meh,. SPDIF and optical has been on gear for decades, and you've always needed a host for it just like USB does.
Being able to plug into any amp or audio mixer straight away without fuss is a massive flexibility advantage that no digital I/O has never been able to make obsolete.
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. If you are sending the digital signal out on the Roland, you're just using it as a transport. At some point, it has to be converted to analog, or you can't listen to it. Either way, you are going to be using the analog outputs on the Roland, or on whatever you are using for a dac.
As far as the digital vs analog debate goes, all analog components will vary from good to bad, as will all digital products. There's no guarantee which will sound better. A comparison needs to be done on an case by case basis. There's just too many variables at play. Listen to them all and pick the one that sounds best.
@@AT-wl9yq I’m guessing you don’t know that ;) is a smile with a wink. I’m guessing you don’t know that I wasn’t being absolutely correct, but rather pointing out something that wasn’t highlighted in the video in a gentle “ribbing” manner.
Having built and repaired analog and digital radios, I’m very familiar with digital and analog electronics.
Thanks for the post though.
@@EverettVinzant I didn't realize you were kidding. I actually know what those symbols mean, I just somehow missed it.
I just got the tr6s
Freggin love that thing.
Tr-6s!!!!!!??
Yeah!!!
Roland the best
In many instances, yes
DON'T SELL YOUR IMPACT if you have one.
I will not be selling it :-)
The pocket operator actually sounds better than I thought it would.
Yeah the PO 12 is underestimated IMO.
the arturia is a french machine...
indeed it is-
impression:
- TR-6S very versatile but unfortunately sounding more like 'ReBirth advanced' than a drum machine....no wood or rattle to it = all plastique sounding. All the ACB&Zen-core are like this - sounds nice and tidy but not gritty, thick or dirty...detailed and responsive yes, but always sounding _flattened and polite._
- DBI has a near-perfect UI... but a bungled sound engine (again!) - such a confused palette including the worst f*^&%ng clap ever. I'd rather use an MFB which is major a shame since the seq, connectivity and and build are truly great.
- PO is a gadget, and not a drum machine.
Thanks for the comparo-peek :)
I disagree! I actually did a video comparing it to the og TR-808- check the comments of that video a lot of people either liked the 6s more or couldn't tell the diff: th-cam.com/video/0KTTpNKyOho/w-d-xo.html
They're using this new tech called ACB for all of the classic sounds- it's HYPER close to the real thing-
Disagree too! The TR6S sound really, really great... never heard that fat baskicks from Impact, and about the pocked shit we dont't talk (for prof. Musicians it is a play toy, but not usable on stage). Using samples in TR6S is a big plus also!
ppl love PO-12. If it was in my studio it would go in the bin
Or you could sell it
Is this really proper workwear?
Sittin’ at home at my desk so… 🤷🏻♂️
This is synth TH-cam, not a corporate office lol.
@@LiamKillen I’m Swedish so I would never dress so provocative :)
But comfort is of course key!
A men to comfort!
@@viktorragnemar9018 #144pAppreciationDay for Sweden?
The Impact sounds awful but not as bad as the original, it got destroyed by a Pocket Operator, not suprised but still crazy.
It seems to be a drum machine that people either love or hate. I love it,.