@@SilverSSJyt From what I remember, the characters he has are: * Scourge * Lara-Su * Enerjak *Shard *Julie-Su *Elias Acorn There may be more but these are the only ones that I remember
@@SkyStrife2690 Bruh. They deserved every word. I get Buns Rabbot betraying him. Dude left her for dead and a good man put her on a life support machine that could kick $*% and tank missiles... but everyone else weren't treated that bad!
@@yam9195 Doesn't seem like you are joking. Also, it's not like he was attacking you. He's just saying that both characters aren't really the same. While Scourge is an Evil Sonic, Goku Black is just Zamasu in Goku's body.
Is a shame that Scourge is basically in a copyright hell rn. He's owned by Penders but unlike Lara-su, he is way too tied to the sonic cannon to actually be used without going through heavy backstory and design change. But at that point could you really call him Scourge? EDIT: This might be some good news for the Scourge fans but Ken actually said he wouldn't be opposed to bringing his characters back if SEGA/IDW wanted, there's this video from Lance Jerkov that goes more into it. Even talking about freedom fighters may be coming back. (Skip to 11:59 if you wanna get straight into what I'm talking about.) th-cam.com/video/JhIy4jKqdj0/w-d-xo.html
Scourge was the baddest of em all but he couldn't stack up to the more vile villain of the Sonic series: The Pen Man. The dude ruined anything Sonic related he touched and for what? Delusions of grandeur? Imaginary glory? He struck SEGA's throat and hacked off Archie's achilles.
@@Gsmooth84 The 2nd worst possible timeline. Wait. No. It's tied. Yeah I'm still hung up on losing great characters but IDW has done their best to make great characters that could surpass what we had. Heck, Tangle and Whisper showed up in Mobile Sonic Forces! We are recovering and thriving.
@@TheZeroDozer Like Metal Sonic was a prototype/placeholder until he could perfect the process? ...I'm actually tempted to research if Scourge was actually made by Penders or if it's just Anti-Sonic. UPDATE: No dice; pure Penders.
Small nitpick but the idea of Anti Sonic was made by Ken, SCOURGE was Ian Flynn’s idea. Ken basically claimed he owned Scourge because he made Anti Sonic. What a scumbag.
Ah yes, I remember that. Only reason Sonic even beat Super Scourge is not because Scourge ran out of juice, it's because Sonic duped him into dropping his Super state. Basically, The Anarchy Beryl (Anti-Mobius version of Chaos Emeralds) is what screwed him, since they were the exact opposite of Chaos Emeralds, instead of feeling revitalized and energized after dropping his Super transformation (like Sonic says he does when he drops his Super state) the opposite happened, and Scourge felt drained of all energy.
PLEASE talk about dark enerjak from the Archie comics, the silver saga was one of the best things to come from the Archie series I’m begging you to make a video
While Scourge sure had some rather unfortunate moments of "Ow the edge", I really did like him and would have liked to explore aspects of his character, like how his past and the knowledge of other realities impacted him. Sure liked how he changed his look and all because he was sick of being just the evil version of someone else. That could have been so much fun to explore.
Exactly and to be honest that in of itself was an interesting detail of his character. I used to think "I get that his personality and demeanor is the complete opposite to Sonic's playful but honorable soul but how is the punked out, edgy attire in anyway translated from his counterpart?" And then realized that was the point, he aspired to have his own identity to which he succeeded with in spades lol
The issue with Sonic's birthday where Scourge first shows up was one I took with me on vacation and read several times over to the point where my mom had to tell me to put it down. I'll never forget him and his stories regardless of whether or not Sega wants me to remember.
Looking back at the Sonic comics, I really do appriciate them even more now considering a lot of the ideas that we lost. I thought Scourge was kinda cringy at first. Take into effect that he is still basiclly just Anti-Sonic with a new color scheme, we really can't consider him too original, especially when dealing with Sonic evil recolors seem to be as common as fish in the sea. It wasn't until they started doing more with all the hedgehogs that I started to see why he worked and why he was fun. He's everything that Shadow could no longer be. Shadow WAS supposed to be anti-Sonic game wise but even he ended his life on a heroic note before being brought back as the 'dark, bad boy' animu rival. He's....well, he's everything girls go nuts over with the whole bad boy anime trope but he's still not EVIL. Scourge on the other hand encapsulates everything that could be with Sonic if he were evil and it's not just as simple as going 'IF SONIC WE EVIL, HE'D KILL EVERYONE AND STUFF'. Nah, Scourge takes the things we love about Sonic but cranks it up to an annoying degree. He's not snarky, he condescending. He's not fun loving, he's obsessed with destruction. He's arrogant, he's uncaring, petty and jealous of some of the members of his team (evil Antonie anyone?). He's Sonic on a bad day but as Sonic retorted, HE'S Scourge on a good day...and seeing that retort get under his skin was glorious.
@@Raiz136 You know I really appreciate when Sonic is a shonen instead of Mario copy.It's more original plus I really like Ian.He kinda reminds me Akira Toriyama and Eichiro Oda.
I seen Scourge is one of a badass yet arrogant hedgehog to be his own hedgehog despite being a bad version of his good counterpart, not honorbound and fights dirty, he is a version of Sonic who is kinda like Sonic himself. So, hey, I like the guy for being who he is just by his own actions alone. :3
This has been another edition of 'Why Ken Penders is an Asshole'. I loved the Archie comic series and it was so frustrating how they pulled the plug on so many long running plots.
@@SuperSonicWarrior93 Same. It was a missed opportunity. Would’ve been cool to see it on Cartoon Network’s Friday night block ( it probably would’ve been rated TV-PG)
Despite being well-written, Scourge always felt like he was stuck in the over-saturation of characters the franchise had. If only he had some factor/purpose that allowed him to stand out more as an individual, & not just another character/plot device. 🤔
@Dylan Ogega (🙏🥺... hear me out.) We ALL use *dialogue* to *articulate,* *communicate,* *conversate,* collaborate, educate & tolerate. So I celebrate & congratulate the fact I'm not illiterate by NEVER stopping to use the *lingo* of my *vocabulary.* I'm quite adept with *etymology* & I can assure you that my *terminology* is accurate. I do KNOW what I'm *talking* about, & I'll *tell* you if you'll take the time to listen. You have a firm grasp of the *text,* but falter with the *definition* by misinterpreting my *context...* & you're *sentence* structure could use a little work. I'm NOT trying to insult you, unlike your poorly *worded* footnote(Although, I do enjoy the irony of it!). I'm merely *saying* I know how truly difficult *language* can be. As I've spent my entire childhood CONSTANTLY having to *re-read* & *rewrite* everything over & over again. Honing my *reading* comprehension & *literation* skills in order to overcome my dyslexia🔡😵🔢... formerly known as "being stupid". One of the reasons I worked SO hard to power through it all was the option to go nextdoor & play with my friend, Richard(a Sega kid). ESPECIALLY after one fateful Friday night back in 1991! Where my friend & I, along with countless other kids at the time, were inadvertently becoming the founding members of a fanbase. Who's collective hype has fueled the franchise for the last 30 YEARS!🤩🎮📺🎮🤯 And I(like many) used my skills as a GODDAMN wordsmith to send fan letter after fan letter, with pages of questions asking about the lore. I got to learn the name Miles Prower long before Sonic 2 came out, even before he gained the nickname "Tails" in production. My friend Richard received a 2 page backstory for Sonic that was VERY different from what they went with in the canon. Back then, Sega was only trying to see if they could create a successful platformer game, so the lore was pretty bare bones. And when millions of fan letters hit their mailroom the following week, they looked to other popular franchises & fan mail for ideas. Even as kids, we realized that the comics were based on the OG speedster, The Flash. At one point, it was even softly promoted as a more kid-friendly alternative, as it traded graphic imagery for more zany action. This lead to the evil doppelganger idea for the next big bad, enter Bad Sonic(Reverse Flash). As fans, we kept sending letters asking questions... Twin? Clone? Robot? Alternate timeline?... & fan art of ideas we thought were cool at the time. Drawings of Red Sonic(Knuckles), with half his face ripped off like Terminator & metallic hedgehog skeletons(Sonic Robots). Believe it or not, there was actually a fair amount of hate from fans for Metal stealing the thunder from the OG evil hedgehog. And years later, another hedgehog antagonist takes the clone idea(Shadow). Becoming Scourge WAS pretty cool, he's like a living Master Emerald now! And I personally don't care if it makes him look kinda like that guy from Sonic Underground. The colors were arguably the only good thing about that show. So by all means take, the franchise has taken FAR more from him! BUT he uses his newfound power to pull the same old shtick... (sigh) Like the franchise, I admire this character's ability to be entertaining & stay strong, despite being shat on more times than Waluigi. And KUDOS for managing to stay on top of the pile he started 30 years ago!... but it's not enough. Like a sundae without ice cream, he's flash without substance. The extras are GOOD, but ultimately leaves you unsatisfied & wanting more. He needs to have a factor, like a personal connection to the other characters and the world around him. And/or a purpose, motivating him to achieve some personal goal. I'll admit more established characters like Robotnik, Knuckles & Shadow have(at times) become "cardboard cutouts". But back then, that's how most characters started. With only a handful of them getting enough personality/development to make them INDIVIDUALS. Who can standalone in their own story, with or without Sonic. Until that happens, he & the others stuck in over-saturation(Which mostly comes from the comics, as they are cheaper to produce.) won't be much more than a tool. Used simply to push the plot forward, before being shipped back to the toolbox until more filler is needed. But as a fan, I'm not worried. Like Bad Sonic/Scourge, we're GODDAMN determined & REFUSE to die! We managed to convince a MAJOR motion picture to get redesigned! Also, all those OG fans of yesteryear are all grown up. And some of them are in fact writing for the franchise, giving us the "more IN-depth & consistently characterized" stories we've been waiting for! I STILL have high hopes for Sally, Scourge, Walter, even Big! So there's no point to getting hung up over *jargon.* After all, it's just *WORDS...* it's how we use them that matter!✌️😉 👏🥳Happy 30th Anniversary Sonic the Hedgehog, & thanks for helping kid me make dyslexia my bitch! 👊😎👍
@@dc7981 Or because "another Sonic, but evil" was too much of a gimmick to be/stay interesting. But I don't consider becoming green to be the same as completely changed. Like most fans of my generation, I want MORE! And I'll keep wanting until he does something truly epic with his newfound power. #ScourgeWantsMore
Scourge is one of my favorite Sonic characters! I'd never forget him! I may portray him differently than the official comics, but still! He's badass, and to top it off, he controls lightning (that or it was literally a thunderstorm where I saw him with it)!
He is (or was) as his name suggests the bane of all whom he encountered. as his adjacent counterpart is the protagonist that everyone in mobius holds some degree of respect and admiration for, he is of course the opposite, the one whom everyone greatly dreads and fears. I've always loved the concept of the multiverse, and imo it in of itself and the mirror/anti-world trope never gets old. But it's a real shame the Archie comics universe will likely never feature in the mainstream continuity.
Scourge is such an interesting character, I wasn't really sure about him at first. But definitely now one of my favorite characters, it's a shame that we never got to see the continuation of Scourge. Or even in his own Comic which would be super cool, Scourge has such a love hate relationship fans. But that's what makes Scourge such a unforgettable character in his own right.
This was a pretty neat video! I've recently been collecting the Archie Sonic comics and one of the reasons why is because I wanted to know more about Scourge, I remember watching a comic dub of one of the later comics where sonic battling him and then he goes super and say "LONG LIVE THE KING BABY!!!" and I loved every second of it and when I saw Anti-Sonic I knew that had to be Scourge. I kinda hope that later on Archie and Sega could come back together and continue the comics so we could have two different comic series to enjoy and to bring back old characters from that branch of the Sonic franchise but I'm not sure if they'd do that. Great job on the video!
I like to think Scourge was saved by being on his home dimension, while the Super Genesis Wave only occurred on Mobius Prime. In my opinion he reconquered anit Mobius and was once again King.
Scourge's legacy was destroyed by one simple thing. Archie couldn't afford to keep paying royalties to his creator, who somehow Sega never sued to claim ownership of his characters created for the Sonic comic, so Sega and Archie opted instead to wipe away all of the original characters, which between the Super Genesis Wave and the reboot, just left fans heartbroken in the aftermath of so many characters with strong ties to the main cast vanishing from existence. The Super Genesis Wave was Sega snapping their fingers with the Infinity Gauntlet, only this time there was no possibility of a time heist to undo it.
Can i point out that Fiona Fox was Basically Scrouge version of Tails(Not Really though) So in a Way they are The Sonic and Tails Shipping. That im sure some people have seen on the Internet.
@Dylan Ogega I said not Really Though. That was Me Referring to Anti-Tails. Scrouge and Fiona are Basically the Sonic and Tails Pair. I'm sure that what they was going for.
TWO QUESTIONS!! 1. Are you going to cover Frontiers Sonic given his new abilities that he gained in the game? 2. Are you reading the IDW Comics, and if so, you planning on doing a video on Surge the Tenrec and her powers?
I really enjoyed scourge the hedgehog he's a very fun character to me just wish that he was a playable character and in a game some day that would be fun
I really liked Scourge The Hedgehog. As you said, he wanted to split away from Sonic and become his pwn character. When I read that he conquered his own world, I was blown away. That was epic and then he eventually gained his own team of unique individuals with Fiona, a girl who tried to be a hero, but went down the dark path and I loved it. Will you please consider doing a video about Enerjak?
@@Velocity_YT true I can't really defend that but look on the bright slide nothing ever felt rushed Which is my big complaint about the idw comics is all to rushed the story arcs go way to quickly
Scourge was great. I will still go back and read his sonic universe prison arc. I like the idw books but I miss many aspects of the Archie verse. Great video👏
I've never heard of this character before, but now he's probably my favorite Sonic character. Would love to see him represented in a Video game Some day. Maybe a SA3 or Sonic Heroes 2 since he's got the whole "Destructix" thing.
I hate how Ken Penders thinks he owns Scourge when he shouldn’t. I think his main argument for having the rights to him was that because he was originally Evil Sonic, a character he introduced in the comics, meaning he owns Scourge. When Evil Sonic was just Sonic with a jacket and sunglasses, which wouldn’t hold up in court if Sega or Archie actually cared. And what makes me mad is that he takes credit for creating Scourge when it was Ian Flynn who created (redesign Evil Sonic) and made him a much better character, making Scourge feel like a true opposite to Sonic.
If nothing else, it's nice to see that Scourge's final appearance before the Genesis Wave was one of triumph, with him breaking out of prison with a brand new gang and amped up to dish out some payback.
To me, ASO (Archie Sonic Online), is the TRUE continuation of the comics. Go check those guys out. As for other dope villains from the comics, look at guys like Mogul and Naugus.
he was one of those moments that I thought he was fanmade. is because ALOT of people keep using there OCs in videos and fan stories. makes it hard to tell what character came from the comics, games or shows.
One thing I remember seeing, unsure if true, but when the Prison Escape arc ended, they were going to have Scourge stories down the line either put up online, in the comics, or their own thing, but alas that extra treatment didn’t come through
A lot of fans want Scourge in the games, but sadly Ken Penders owns him so sadly that wasn’t going to happen.
Just love how you can Give Sonic a Different color and called that an Original Character.
@@KavinCatastrophe
Well he is sonic just from a different universe
@@allstardawn6062 Talking about Ken Penders.
Ken Penders needs to stop being selfish, and think about the fans.
@@KavinCatastrophe I know right
Sonic: Hey, what happened to Scourge the Hedgehog?
Surge the Tenrec: We don’t talk about Scourge the Hedgehog.
Because of a lawsuit, SEGA can no longer use any of Ken Penders characters or even those that remotely resembles any of them like Shade the Echidna.
FUcking Ken Penders
its always Ken Penders
Lara-Su as well, Ken is literally keeping fan favorite characters hostage and I hate it 😑😑😑
@@papyrusgaming4820 wow what characters does he got ?
@@SilverSSJyt From what I remember, the characters he has are:
* Scourge
* Lara-Su
* Enerjak
*Shard
*Julie-Su
*Elias Acorn
There may be more but these are the only ones that I remember
@@papyrusgaming4820 wow why can’t this guy jus let new ppl have it. Wasted potential
"Scourge was created by Ken Penders-"
Well if you know anything about Ken Penders, there's your answer.
He spend the video saying why Scourge disappear, despite the fact he answer himself when he say 'created by Ken Penders'. heh.
Scrouge actually did swear when his group betrayed him😂😂
Yeah he said *@#@!*! Or something like that
@@SkyStrife2690
Bruh. They deserved every word.
I get Buns Rabbot betraying him. Dude left her for dead and a good man put her on a life support machine that could kick $*% and tank missiles... but everyone else weren't treated that bad!
@@GoldPrince2468 remember anti Sonic was mistrested in his dimension before he became scoruge.
@@SkyStrife2690
True. And those who betrayed him deserve every word.
@@GoldPrince2468 yeah true
I must say, Scourge the Hedgehog was one of the greates villians in the Archie Comics!
And in the franchise in general.
its fleatway?
@@ACreative_name No, fleetway was a separate alternate universe evil sonic.
villains*
That was from fleetway comics not Archies
Scourge was actually one of my favorite characters
one of my favorite Sonic characters too but also sadly one of the most underrated Sonic characters
The same he also my favourite, he the main reason got in archie really.
Same. Feels bad, man
Me too 🥺🦔
He's my number 1 favorite character
The Goku Black of Sonic.
Oh I just realised that Goku Black and Scourge are both amazing concepts yet were both disgraces in the end.
Not really Goku Black is Zamasu. But in the Fan manga Dragonball Kakarot where Goku regain his Sayains Memories. Now that an Evil Goku.
@@KavinCatastrophe true but it's just a joke i made
Should they have made black and zamasu into two different people instead of being the same person
Scourge came before Goku Black but yeah they are similar. The other thing they have in common is that they no longer exist.
@@yam9195 Doesn't seem like you are joking. Also, it's not like he was attacking you. He's just saying that both characters aren't really the same. While Scourge is an Evil Sonic, Goku Black is just Zamasu in Goku's body.
Is a shame that Scourge is basically in a copyright hell rn. He's owned by Penders but unlike Lara-su, he is way too tied to the sonic cannon to actually be used without going through heavy backstory and design change. But at that point could you really call him Scourge?
EDIT: This might be some good news for the Scourge fans but Ken actually said he wouldn't be opposed to bringing his characters back if SEGA/IDW wanted, there's this video from Lance Jerkov that goes more into it. Even talking about freedom fighters may be coming back. (Skip to 11:59 if you wanna get straight into what I'm talking about.)
th-cam.com/video/JhIy4jKqdj0/w-d-xo.html
Scourge was the baddest of em all but he couldn't stack up to the more vile villain of the Sonic series: The Pen Man.
The dude ruined anything Sonic related he touched and for what? Delusions of grandeur? Imaginary glory?
He struck SEGA's throat and hacked off Archie's achilles.
@@GoldPrince2468 Had Penders stayed on up until now, Archie Sonic would be "SJW" Archie Sonic
@@Gsmooth84
The 2nd worst possible timeline.
Wait. No. It's tied.
Yeah I'm still hung up on losing great characters but IDW has done their best to make great characters that could surpass what we had. Heck, Tangle and Whisper showed up in Mobile Sonic Forces!
We are recovering and thriving.
It's not hard to make Scourge as an Eggman-made clone of Sonic experiment in an attempt to make someone able to match Sonic's speed.
@@TheZeroDozer
Like Metal Sonic was a prototype/placeholder until he could perfect the process?
...I'm actually tempted to research if Scourge was actually made by Penders or if it's just Anti-Sonic.
UPDATE: No dice; pure Penders.
Small nitpick but the idea of Anti Sonic was made by Ken, SCOURGE was Ian Flynn’s idea. Ken basically claimed he owned Scourge because he made Anti Sonic. What a scumbag.
@Red Knight Because Ken’s a brat.
He didn't run out of juice actually his ego got the better of him and he willingly turned it off. Didn't know that he'd be drained for it.
Ah yes, I remember that. Only reason Sonic even beat Super Scourge is not because Scourge ran out of juice, it's because Sonic duped him into dropping his Super state. Basically, The Anarchy Beryl (Anti-Mobius version of Chaos Emeralds) is what screwed him, since they were the exact opposite of Chaos Emeralds, instead of feeling revitalized and energized after dropping his Super transformation (like Sonic says he does when he drops his Super state) the opposite happened, and Scourge felt drained of all energy.
PLEASE talk about dark enerjak from the Archie comics, the silver saga was one of the best things to come from the Archie series I’m begging you to make a video
Scourge the hedgehog is one of my favorite characters, great character
While Scourge sure had some rather unfortunate moments of "Ow the edge", I really did like him and would have liked to explore aspects of his character, like how his past and the knowledge of other realities impacted him. Sure liked how he changed his look and all because he was sick of being just the evil version of someone else. That could have been so much fun to explore.
Exactly and to be honest that in of itself was an interesting detail of his character. I used to think "I get that his personality and demeanor is the complete opposite to Sonic's playful but honorable soul but how is the punked out, edgy attire in anyway translated from his counterpart?" And then realized that was the point, he aspired to have his own identity to which he succeeded with in spades lol
FunFact: Scourge's design was based off of Ashura The Hedgehog from Sonic 2
The issue with Sonic's birthday where Scourge first shows up was one I took with me on vacation and read several times over to the point where my mom had to tell me to put it down. I'll never forget him and his stories regardless of whether or not Sega wants me to remember.
Bro, I got like this book of a bunch of sonic comics and it had sonics birthday in it which introduced me to scourge and I've loved him since.
Same with me but I got the issue when it showed up in the grocery store and my mom actually bought it for me.
_Hail to the King, Baby_ - Scourge the Hedgehog
Duke Nukem
@@血の神 which I think was an Evil Dead reference.
Looking back at the Sonic comics, I really do appriciate them even more now considering a lot of the ideas that we lost. I thought Scourge was kinda cringy at first. Take into effect that he is still basiclly just Anti-Sonic with a new color scheme, we really can't consider him too original, especially when dealing with Sonic evil recolors seem to be as common as fish in the sea.
It wasn't until they started doing more with all the hedgehogs that I started to see why he worked and why he was fun. He's everything that Shadow could no longer be. Shadow WAS supposed to be anti-Sonic game wise but even he ended his life on a heroic note before being brought back as the 'dark, bad boy' animu rival. He's....well, he's everything girls go nuts over with the whole bad boy anime trope but he's still not EVIL.
Scourge on the other hand encapsulates everything that could be with Sonic if he were evil and it's not just as simple as going 'IF SONIC WE EVIL, HE'D KILL EVERYONE AND STUFF'. Nah, Scourge takes the things we love about Sonic but cranks it up to an annoying degree. He's not snarky, he condescending. He's not fun loving, he's obsessed with destruction. He's arrogant, he's uncaring, petty and jealous of some of the members of his team (evil Antonie anyone?).
He's Sonic on a bad day but as Sonic retorted, HE'S Scourge on a good day...and seeing that retort get under his skin was glorious.
The Pre-Reboot Ian Flynn run feels like a shonen. Really wish it had a show or spin-off game
At least Ian still writes Sonic for IDW
@@dakotasan8719, he's also the writer for Sonic Frontiers now, so that's neat.
@@Raiz136 You know I really appreciate when Sonic is a shonen instead of Mario copy.It's more original plus I really like Ian.He kinda reminds me Akira Toriyama and Eichiro Oda.
Literally the embrodiment of a manga (what I envision as an anime series)
I'm really digging the Sonic content, I know they don't perform as well as dragon ball, but these videos are real cool
No sonic sucks we want dbz back #stopmilkingsonic
I seen Scourge is one of a badass yet arrogant hedgehog to be his own hedgehog despite being a bad version of his good counterpart, not honorbound and fights dirty, he is a version of Sonic who is kinda like Sonic himself. So, hey, I like the guy for being who he is just by his own actions alone. :3
Dude literally had his own identity and persona despite being a counterpart, respect!
I can't believe out of everyone here your here your underated asf and yes i know you
This has been another edition of 'Why Ken Penders is an Asshole'. I loved the Archie comic series and it was so frustrating how they pulled the plug on so many long running plots.
Ken Panders ruined everything smh 🤦🏾♂️
Which character would you like to be added in game cannon from archie comics
The Entire Archie Hyperverse
I wish they would make a whole TV series adaptation of the Archie Comics. The original continuity, that is. Not that crappy reboot.
Mammoth Mogul (Personality) or Ixis Naugus (Powers)
The secret freedom fighters
@@SuperSonicWarrior93 Same. It was a missed opportunity. Would’ve been cool to see it on Cartoon Network’s Friday night block ( it probably would’ve been rated TV-PG)
Amazing video, more archie videos please. Do Enerjak next or Dr. Finitevus
I really hope for a Scourge's return one day.
he won't
@@LordEnder97 unfortunate
Despite being well-written, Scourge always felt like he was stuck in the over-saturation of characters the franchise had. If only he had some factor/purpose that allowed him to stand out more as an individual, & not just another character/plot device. 🤔
@Dylan Ogega (🙏🥺... hear me out.)
We ALL use *dialogue* to *articulate,* *communicate,* *conversate,* collaborate, educate & tolerate. So I celebrate & congratulate the fact I'm not illiterate by NEVER stopping to use the *lingo* of my *vocabulary.* I'm quite adept with *etymology* & I can assure you that my *terminology* is accurate. I do KNOW what I'm *talking* about, & I'll *tell* you if you'll take the time to listen. You have a firm grasp of the *text,* but falter with the *definition* by misinterpreting my *context...* & you're *sentence* structure could use a little work.
I'm NOT trying to insult you, unlike your poorly *worded* footnote(Although, I do enjoy the irony of it!). I'm merely *saying* I know how truly difficult *language* can be. As I've spent my entire childhood CONSTANTLY having to *re-read* & *rewrite* everything over & over again. Honing my *reading* comprehension & *literation* skills in order to overcome my dyslexia🔡😵🔢... formerly known as "being stupid".
One of the reasons I worked SO hard to power through it all was the option to go nextdoor & play with my friend, Richard(a Sega kid). ESPECIALLY after one fateful Friday night back in 1991! Where my friend & I, along with countless other kids at the time, were inadvertently becoming the founding members of a fanbase. Who's collective hype has fueled the franchise for the last 30 YEARS!🤩🎮📺🎮🤯 And I(like many) used my skills as a GODDAMN wordsmith to send fan letter after fan letter, with pages of questions asking about the lore. I got to learn the name Miles Prower long before Sonic 2 came out, even before he gained the nickname "Tails" in production. My friend Richard received a 2 page backstory for Sonic that was VERY different from what they went with in the canon.
Back then, Sega was only trying to see if they could create a successful platformer game, so the lore was pretty bare bones. And when millions of fan letters hit their mailroom the following week, they looked to other popular franchises & fan mail for ideas. Even as kids, we realized that the comics were based on the OG speedster, The Flash. At one point, it was even softly promoted as a more kid-friendly alternative, as it traded graphic imagery for more zany action. This lead to the evil doppelganger idea for the next big bad, enter Bad Sonic(Reverse Flash). As fans, we kept sending letters asking questions... Twin? Clone? Robot? Alternate timeline?... & fan art of ideas we thought were cool at the time. Drawings of Red Sonic(Knuckles), with half his face ripped off like Terminator & metallic hedgehog skeletons(Sonic Robots). Believe it or not, there was actually a fair amount of hate from fans for Metal stealing the thunder from the OG evil hedgehog. And years later, another hedgehog antagonist takes the clone idea(Shadow). Becoming Scourge WAS pretty cool, he's like a living Master Emerald now! And I personally don't care if it makes him look kinda like that guy from Sonic Underground. The colors were arguably the only good thing about that show. So by all means take, the franchise has taken FAR more from him! BUT he uses his newfound power to pull the same old shtick... (sigh)
Like the franchise, I admire this character's ability to be entertaining & stay strong, despite being shat on more times than Waluigi. And KUDOS for managing to stay on top of the pile he started 30 years ago!... but it's not enough. Like a sundae without ice cream, he's flash without substance. The extras are GOOD, but ultimately leaves you unsatisfied & wanting more. He needs to have a factor, like a personal connection to the other characters and the world around him. And/or a purpose, motivating him to achieve some personal goal. I'll admit more established characters like Robotnik, Knuckles & Shadow have(at times) become "cardboard cutouts". But back then, that's how most characters started. With only a handful of them getting enough personality/development to make them INDIVIDUALS. Who can standalone in their own story, with or without Sonic. Until that happens, he & the others stuck in over-saturation(Which mostly comes from the comics, as they are cheaper to produce.) won't be much more than a tool. Used simply to push the plot forward, before being shipped back to the toolbox until more filler is needed.
But as a fan, I'm not worried. Like Bad Sonic/Scourge, we're GODDAMN determined & REFUSE to die! We managed to convince a MAJOR motion picture to get redesigned! Also, all those OG fans of yesteryear are all grown up. And some of them are in fact writing for the franchise, giving us the "more IN-depth & consistently characterized" stories we've been waiting for! I STILL have high hopes for Sally, Scourge, Walter, even Big! So there's no point to getting hung up over *jargon.* After all, it's just *WORDS...* it's how we use them that matter!✌️😉
👏🥳Happy 30th Anniversary Sonic the Hedgehog, & thanks for helping kid me make dyslexia my bitch! 👊😎👍
The problem is that hes another rival character for someone who already has WAY to many rivals
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As Bad Sonic, he pre-dates most rivals.
@@brandonprater4613 Which is why he had to be changed completely by ian flynn when the rival number went up lol
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Or because "another Sonic, but evil" was too much of a gimmick to be/stay interesting. But I don't consider becoming green to be the same as completely changed. Like most fans of my generation, I want MORE! And I'll keep wanting until he does something truly epic with his newfound power.
#ScourgeWantsMore
At least the Sonic Fan Film, Sonic Villains, Scourge will definitely do some damage against Sonic
Scourge is one of my favorite Sonic characters! I'd never forget him! I may portray him differently than the official comics, but still! He's badass, and to top it off, he controls lightning (that or it was literally a thunderstorm where I saw him with it)!
He is (or was) as his name suggests the bane of all whom he encountered. as his adjacent counterpart is the protagonist that everyone in mobius holds some degree of respect and admiration for, he is of course the opposite, the one whom everyone greatly dreads and fears.
I've always loved the concept of the multiverse, and imo it in of itself and the mirror/anti-world trope never gets old.
But it's a real shame the Archie comics universe will likely never feature in the mainstream continuity.
Scourge was one my favorite villains…It sucks that his plan wasn’t revealed AFTER he broke out.
Some videos idea that i would like to see are about Nazo and Sellkadoom
Scourge is such an interesting character, I wasn't really sure about him at first. But definitely now one of my favorite characters, it's a shame that we never got to see the continuation of Scourge. Or even in his own Comic which would be super cool, Scourge has such a love hate relationship fans. But that's what makes Scourge such a unforgettable character in his own right.
I'd say Scourge lives on in IDW's Surge The Tenrec.
he is so cool!! I use to be terrified of him as a child but i grew to love this dork!! He needs attention ASAP! such a good character.
This was a pretty neat video! I've recently been collecting the Archie Sonic comics and one of the reasons why is because I wanted to know more about Scourge, I remember watching a comic dub of one of the later comics where sonic battling him and then he goes super and say "LONG LIVE THE KING BABY!!!" and I loved every second of it and when I saw Anti-Sonic I knew that had to be Scourge. I kinda hope that later on Archie and Sega could come back together and continue the comics so we could have two different comic series to enjoy and to bring back old characters from that branch of the Sonic franchise but I'm not sure if they'd do that. Great job on the video!
“Hail to the King, BABY!”
-Scourge the Hedgehog, issue #197
Sponsors, good for you man
I loved Scourge so much that I wished he was immigrated into the games and become to Sonic as Wario is to Mario.
I had the first Evil Sonic comic back in the day, didn’t realize he grew up to be Sonic’s Broly
I like to think Scourge was saved by being on his home dimension, while the Super Genesis Wave only occurred on Mobius Prime. In my opinion he reconquered anit Mobius and was once again King.
Scourge is my second favorite Sonic character right after Shadow. *ALL HAIL THE KING, BABY!!!*
Scourge: *breathes*
Every deviyantart sonic fan: "OH MY GOD HES SO GOD DAMN COOL!!"
As someone who didn’t get to enjoy scourge in his prime, I really think he’s awesome and wish I could’ve been there
Scourge's legacy was destroyed by one simple thing. Archie couldn't afford to keep paying royalties to his creator, who somehow Sega never sued to claim ownership of his characters created for the Sonic comic, so Sega and Archie opted instead to wipe away all of the original characters, which between the Super Genesis Wave and the reboot, just left fans heartbroken in the aftermath of so many characters with strong ties to the main cast vanishing from existence. The Super Genesis Wave was Sega snapping their fingers with the Infinity Gauntlet, only this time there was no possibility of a time heist to undo it.
So sad the comic series was cancelled before we could find out what became of him.
Super Scourge= Super Saiyan Rose
He's the little palette swap that could.
Miss him and the archie verse as a whole
Of all the characters from the old continuity, I miss Scourge the most.
Can i point out that Fiona Fox was Basically Scrouge version of Tails(Not Really though) So in a Way they are The Sonic and Tails Shipping. That im sure some people have seen on the Internet.
@Dylan Ogega I said not Really Though. That was Me Referring to Anti-Tails. Scrouge and Fiona are Basically the Sonic and Tails Pair. I'm sure that what they was going for.
How on Earth did Scourge appear on the cover of Best of Sonic the Hedgehog Rivals if he was owned by Penders?
Probably made before they knew the scope of the lawsuit. He’s just evil Sonic at the end of the day. Someone claiming ownership of him is whack.
He said the comic cover was cancelled anyways
Simple answer, other writers improving him and making him better
As long as Ken Penders is around, Scurge will most likely never return, but we do have a spiritual successor In Surge the tenrec
I miss Scourge. So much potential WASTED
I WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!!
TWO QUESTIONS!!
1. Are you going to cover Frontiers Sonic given his new abilities that he gained in the game?
2. Are you reading the IDW Comics, and if so, you planning on doing a video on Surge the Tenrec and her powers?
that sonic sprite is so tuff in this
Luckily, we got surge which is a character AKIN or to replicate scourge. They are not the same but the inspiration is obvious
Scourge is definitely one of my favorite characters in the comics.
Scourge is my all-time favorite Sonic character! I feel it in my soul that he'll be back some day!
I miss Scourge and Fiona. Probably was the highlight of the comics for me
I really enjoyed scourge the hedgehog he's a very fun character to me just wish that he was a playable character and in a game some day that would be fun
Scourge was definitely one of my favorite Sonic villains and evil Sonic clones
I really liked Scourge The Hedgehog. As you said, he wanted to split away from Sonic and become his pwn character. When I read that he conquered his own world, I was blown away. That was epic and then he eventually gained his own team of unique individuals with Fiona, a girl who tried to be a hero, but went down the dark path and I loved it.
Will you please consider doing a video about Enerjak?
As a huge fan of Scourge, I feel sorry for the dude.
Scourge was my favorite as a kid even did a bunch of drawings of him as a kid. Seeing him in a comic I got instantly made him my favorite
Fun fact: His new design was also based on the glitch from Sonic 2, Ashura. His black crown represented the black marks around Ashura’s head.
Am so glad the Archie comics is getting much needed love its the GT of the sonic Franchise
100 times better then the IDW comics
🔊 *FACTS!!!*
Man I'm glad I'm not the only one who's made that GT comparison.
I don't know...Archie became a soap opera instead of a comic book after some time
@@Velocity_YT true I can't really defend that but look on the bright slide nothing ever felt rushed
Which is my big complaint about the idw comics is all to rushed the story arcs go way to quickly
@@paulf631 the only thing I don't like is that the characters aren't really consistent. Like Amy for example and Tails...
There will be a day where Scourge is no longer in copyright hell and that day will be awesome.
Scourge is basically FMA Greed as a Sonic character.
This makes me sad, I liked Scourge when I read the comics, Penders ruined the Sonic comics's best characters.
Scourge was great. I will still go back and read his sonic universe prison arc. I like the idw books but I miss many aspects of the Archie verse. Great video👏
I've never heard of this character before, but now he's probably my favorite Sonic character. Would love to see him represented in a Video game Some day. Maybe a SA3 or Sonic Heroes 2 since he's got the whole "Destructix" thing.
So it looks like the IDW series is making a spiritual successor to Scourge its a character called Surge the Tenrec.
I always said Scourge should've been in a video game
his appearance in the comic "ghosts of the future" comics were very well done and kinda ties up his character nicely. though its still only fan comic
It may be a fan comic, but it's high quality, its author Evan Stanley worked for Archie and now works for IDW.
The potential SEGA has to make an AWESOME game with Scourge as the villain is there.
Scourge is super underated
speaking of heartbreaking endings, don't get me started on what happened to Shard.
Growing up with the sonic comcis in the late 90s till my highshcool years in the 2010s. I always loved it when Scourge showed up
I hate how Ken Penders thinks he owns Scourge when he shouldn’t. I think his main argument for having the rights to him was that because he was originally Evil Sonic, a character he introduced in the comics, meaning he owns Scourge. When Evil Sonic was just Sonic with a jacket and sunglasses, which wouldn’t hold up in court if Sega or Archie actually cared. And what makes me mad is that he takes credit for creating Scourge when it was Ian Flynn who created (redesign Evil Sonic) and made him a much better character, making Scourge feel like a true opposite to Sonic.
I'm gonna be real honest Saiyan Scholar, there is no way I've forgotten a character that badass.
I still don’t understand how Penders own an evil Sonic with master emerald energy
If nothing else, it's nice to see that Scourge's final appearance before the Genesis Wave was one of triumph, with him breaking out of prison with a brand new gang and amped up to dish out some payback.
Why did I just now notice his eyes became blue to opposite Sonic's pallet scheme
Scourge the hedgehog is my favorite childhood sonic character in the franchise
Scourge the Hedgehog. Gone, but not forgotten.
Hopefully someday we'll see him again
Every underdog character got skewered into tissue paper
Yeah, but this time, we can blame someone other than Sega
I hope in a future Sonic game, Scourge will be in it!
I hope scourge is going to be in sonic prime and future sonic games
I used to think Scourge was so dope, really wish we could see him return somehow
To me, ASO (Archie Sonic Online), is the TRUE continuation of the comics. Go check those guys out. As for other dope villains from the comics, look at guys like Mogul and Naugus.
4:48 and Hyper Sonic is Super Saiyan 7 (idk if that exists).
Scourge didn't run out of energy. Sonic tricked him into powering down, and part of the transformation was running out of energy when that happened.
I always come back..
he was one of those moments that I thought he was fanmade. is because ALOT of people keep using there OCs in videos and fan stories. makes it hard to tell what character came from the comics, games or shows.
Say what you will about Surge, she would never surpass Scourge, not by a long shot
One thing I remember seeing, unsure if true, but when the Prison Escape arc ended, they were going to have Scourge stories down the line either put up online, in the comics, or their own thing, but alas that extra treatment didn’t come through
I saw him in a fan video like 8 years ago and I didn't believe he was real! This is so crazy
Anyone who calls shadow edgy doesn’t know anything about him.