Most people in most media argue in bad faith when it suits them. It's the result of a generation raised on reality TV; it's not about good faith anything, only exploitation, being outrageous and getting views. The US literally elected a reality TV star. Remember Jerry Springers commencement address?
The boy, Dean, is a fool too. He did his own verison of the Jubilee video and he used tons of lies as his talking points and "evidence." I saw a segment of it on Reddit on the dumb reasons why he thinks Harris or Biden would be better presidents than Trump.
@@HelePelu And(not allegedly but as a matter of fact) Trump hung out with Epstein AND, when asked in a Fox interview if he would release the Epstein files, he hesitated.
Don’t know who this George guy is, but I don’t get why he thinks so highly of Parker. The kid had no redeeming intellectual qualities. Just talks fast and aggressively.
That's not true. Parker had Charlie pinned when he mentioned that Kirk doesn't want to prosecute murders. Then, he showed how pathetic Kirk is by using slavery as an analogy, and Kirk fell right into the trap, admitting that he would gladly retroactively punish slave-owners but not mothers who murdered their babies. You're only angry that he made Kirk look pathetic, as he's so used to "debating" low-IQ, misinformed college students.
@@Jay_Sullivan lots of presumptions. No one is angry. Just a statement. If you were less presumptuous, you might come closer to the truth. All the best.
Everyone recognized how owned he got except for your cult. He doesn't even do his creepy open mouth smile in pictures anymore because of feedback on that.
@@jordansipe5995 no debate. Just insults like usual. It's been proven. Just look at all the interview videos with MAGAts. They know nothing about anything. The left does not worship politicians while you guys buy Trump bibles, NFTs, and shoes, 100 stickers and flags for your car, etc. When presented with facts you choose one of 4 options: whataboutism, cry "fake news," ignore, or ignore topic while spewing insults. For example, no one answers when I ask why you guys want to vote for Trump who bragged live on air that he could walk into pageant changing rooms and get away with it. Teen girls accused him of doing this. He was on Epstein flight logs 7 times. He was sued for not allowing black people to rent his apartment. He said a group of falsely accused black men should be executed. All of this is verified and you can look it up. I can list a thousand other terrible things he did showing that Republicans can do anything and your cult won't care. Blind worship.
General John Kelly…Trumps chief of staff and secretary of Homeland Security…said this about Trump: “ The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life.” Wow...what a great choice for president!!!!!
@@timb350And the people who worked for Kamala quit their job because she showed up late everyday for work and was lazy and incompetent. What a great person to have as president
Parker is a little snake. He knew what he was doing. He was arguing in bad faith instead of debating in good faith. His juvenile way of “winning” was to change the goal post and speak really quickly to present several talking points and judge you for not talking about them all. Then after the video is over he puts on an act as if he didn’t do any of those things and pretends like nothing happened. He’s a little snake I tell you.
Let's not even mention the fact Parker tried to point out the "chess clock" & then proceeded to jump up when there were only 3 min left in the next topic. 😅 Can't make up projection like that man...
Parker was just obnoxious, constant red herring and constantly talking over when Charlie tried to answer his questions. It’s not a debate if you dont let someone answer, youre just a clown trying to seem like the superior person by not letting someone talk
@@whales312 Charlie at least puts out legitimate points and the other kid just talks as fast as he can while making loud noises and makes talking points that don’t even have any relevance to the topic at hand….
@@whales312 Charlie lets people respond all the time, what are you on about? But you can't sit there and try to make 5 points adn expect someone to remember and respond to each one, make one point at a time. As passionv said he also was bringing in subjects that had nothing to do with the topics, like constantly every topic bringing up Charlie's religion, without fail.
@@darkflmmstr no Charlie does the red herring all the time. It’s very debate 101 so you can shift it to your narrative. A perfect example is when he says “well let me ask you this” note that.
@@whales312 when he says that it isn’t to be a distraction it generally to get back to the actual topic because people trail off from what they’re originally talking about like they’re scatter brained.
@@dirtroadsandwoodstoveshe’s not saying to watch it all. But he does make a point, if you’re gunna ask specific questions about a video you should watch it, or say hey I seen some clips and ask about the specific clips
@@dirtroadsandwoodstoves right. definitely can't keep up with ALL of it. but if you're gonna talk about a specific video, its only an hour, could've probably watched it. Or you have people on your employ, have them review and make some notes, then take a look at the sections. BUT hey, just an opinion/thought. I'm sure he has plenty to go through; he does good work, just a little critique.
First of all, George admits in this clip that he only watched clips and not the entire debate, so that could play a roll in his assessment. However, it seems to me that George is just extending Parker grace. It similar to the way we should interpret our debate opponents points in the most favourable and reasonable way. (Something Parker was not doing). In this case he’s extending grace to his character by acknowledging that he had his faults but that he has some qualities that if refined will not only make him a great debater but a powerful ally. He just needs to mature and gain some perspective. I agree with him. Once takes the time to listen to something outside of his echo chamber and gains some lift experience perhaps he will slow down a touch and learn to debate like a professional.
@@GingerBear88 I understand that he has Christian faith and you see the best in people but he's a little rose tinted with this. Parker was disingenuous and would just talk over Charlie and switch topics when he was losing. He has passion but it's probably more to do with an Adderall addiction, being right, and a bad childhood than politics. I don't think he could ever be an advocate for truth. He's too damaged.
@SMA22590 I think that is what OP meant. He loves to argue and he's great at spitting out irrelevant arguments, but when it comes to proper debating, the kid falls short. He probably Thinks he's a great debater, though.
Lol you must’ve stole that from the left that’s exactly what the left says abt Shapiro. Understand they’re both intelligent and have great debating skills.
“Let’s talk about Jubilee, but I only saw the clip of Parker. So I really just wanted to talk about Parker. No Charlie, you can’t finish your story because it’s not about Parker.”
there were some fact checks against the college students. But the reason they didnt fact check as much is cause they were telling facts? are you this out of touch?
1:38 lmao wtf? That parker guys debating strategy is 1) talk at 10x speed, without letting other person speak 2) cut off other person when they're elaborating on the answer 3) "why cant you answer the question?"
@@libfit9068 I’ve watched a ridiculous amount of his content. He doesn’t I can literally show you videos. He also does red herring as much as any other debater it’s a good tactic. It’s evident when he goes like “well let me ask you this” then controls the narrative and it’s generally when he’s avoiding an answer or topic
@@whales312 Again, you’re confusing different things. When the other person is clearing moving off topic they get steered back into the proper direction in the same topic. Whereas Parker simply doesn’t even allow the other person to elaborate before bombarding them.
Anyone who tries to cancel anyone for saying the n-word at 14 has never played call of duty. Most males of any race have said horrific shit on that game
@yomaxmax6279 he chose to attend. He could have easily said, naw that’s like debating children. Give me a real challenge. I’m sure he’ll get the chance to show us true courage when he joins the front lines of whatever battle he calls for in the future. 🥴
Unless it was people in the crowd saying they hope is daughter got raped no one threatened his daughter. What the girl said was “I hope your daughter lives a happy life and gets away from you” in response to him saying if she was pregnant at 10 she would have her deliver the child. Is what she said nasty? Yes but in no way did she or anyone you could hear wish harm on his daughter
Did Charlie misremember what happened or got confused saying this? A girl definitely asked Charlie a hypothetical about if he would let his young (11yo) daughter get an abortion if she got raped, to which Charlie of course said no, and this heated up to her leaving with the remark “If that happens I hope your daughter leaves you” or something nasty like that. Unless something else happened that I don’t remember, this seems like a misrepresentation of what was said.
@@jakejshineCharlie asks a question about college. Parker then starts to ask his own question about college but then midway completely changes the subject to Christianity and about how that’s bad. When Charlie tries to answer the question about college he then talks over him and saying that because the answer that he gave him wasn’t right (in his eyes) he then is wrong about everything. That’s is quite literally the definition of a red herring my guy.
that parker kid was just trying to get charlie with "gotcha" moments on topics that werent even up for debate in the forum, it was a laughable attempt. I'm not surprised that was the "best" jubilee could find to combat charlies logic.
2:05 he is NOT smart every time i see him within 30 seconds of talking he invalidates his argument or changes the subject or just rambles and then brings up religion with no understanding of religion in the first place
He's like many people that think they see grey , but all's they see is black and white. There's book smart liberals, then theres genuine intelligence and understanding the very fabrics of the what is and isn't. They are so wrapped up in their little bubble they will never see the world for what it truly is
5:42 is solid. I used to see the over-dramatic / insulty vids of Charlie on a campus. But then I slowly start seeing him listening more and having legitimate convos with them and I applaud him for it. There are a lot of humans who are lost and we need to not cast them out entirely but reach them with truth! Thanks Charlie (and George+wife) for what you guys do!
dean literally dug a hole into himself by saying donald trump is a racist because he said something years ago when he himself was. insulting people on discord. hes stupid. at least parker didnt do that.
@@chillfrosted2670well i think the significant difference is, dean was like 14-15 with an underdeveloped brain, trump is a grown man lmfao. definitely not comparable
@@haileyl3315 the age difference doesn’t actually justify one over the other. dean might’ve been younger, but insulting people on a public platform is a choice, regardless of age. if you’re going to point fingers at someone for something they said in the past, it’s pretty hypocritical to brush it off just because of age. besides, the “underdeveloped brain” excuse only goes so far - 14-year-olds definitely know the difference between right and wrong, especially when it comes to blatant disrespect.
@chillfrosted2670 age definitely does matter lmfao. there are different expectations from a 14 year old BOY and a 40 year old man. i fear that is basic knowledge. and i’m not excusing what he did nor am i saying it is okay, he has repeatedly apologized for it. other than that there is not much else he can do, while 14 year olds do know right from wrong the brain quite literally is not fully developed to know how damaging their actions can be until they are older. i’m sure you have said some questionable things when you were younger you are just fortunate enough that it will never be aired out. he is embarrassed as he should be and sorry he did it.
I dislike the "You're debating college kids" excuse, as if college students are incapable of holding an intellectual debate. They are entitled when they want to be and victims when they want to be.
that doesnt make sense, charlie is grown man with talking points, no way some kids driven by empathy nad passion could have beatin him on sucha cases. not to mention he is fraud and clown
I agree with Charlie 1000% I had the same thought before I even watched this! Parker is 🚮. Dean though, has potential. He comes across as articulate and honest, just misled. I’m interested to see him as he grows in this sphere.
Only kid that made a good point was dean. Parker was a wannabe destiny and really didn’t make any good points at all. Dean could definitely be solid tho. Idk why George is so stuck on the Parker kid. Like bruh George what are you saying my guy lol? Maybe cause George also interrupts so that why he relates to the Parker kid lmaooo
@@pehpuhpig oh yeah, sometimes I binge all in one comment section. Haha I actually figure most of them disappear even though EVERY SINGLE COMMENT I make supposedly gets ONE “like” 2 mins after I post it. Have you run into that? It started a few months ago.
Parker is more than likely a collegiate debater. The goal in debate in the college ranks is to get as much information out as possible so your opponent misses something and then you win. It doesn't matter if it's relevant to topic, just that your opponent misses your argument, so the more information you put out the easier it is for your opponent to miss something.
Nah he didn't even put out real arguments against the topic at hand he just changed topic and made some weird false equivalence about charlies religion, he would get kicked out by a moderator at any real debate lol
"You have to remember, this kid is young." That's not an excuse, though. These younger gens have absolutely been allowed to run wild. Nobody holds them accountable, so they act in the most puerile way possible. Social media has completely ruined the ability for these kids to engage like rational people.
George’s opinion on Parker just proves that if you present yourself with confidence, you can convince George you know better than him…even if you are saying nothing of substance. Lol. I would NOT want to be married to him. He’s the type of guy that gets screwed over allllll the time by care salesmen types. GEORGE! Grow some discernment!
Are you kidding me? Parker was the worst person there. He couldn't even stay within the question. He was like a train without rails. It was the worst part of the entire show. I really enjoyed when there was a healthy back and forth. But when Parker was on it was mayhem. Like a box of fireworks being lit. He also used intimidation tactics to hit Charlie. Rather than refuting points, he went for the person. Parker is weak and was the worst in the room for many reasons. Do not mistake his quick-fire attitude for strength or knowledge. he wouldn't even listen to an answer before shooting the next missile; that was totally unrelated. The dude was horrific, and has so much to learn.
George please stop talking over your guests and interrupting everyone all the time you have such a good heart and you bring in high class individuals please let them speak. You’re interviewing them..
I'm actually not surprised that George was "impressed" by Parker. Like previously being friends with Logan, I think he is super susceptible to listening to someone speak confidently, and not being able to see their true intentions & personality through that facade of "I know it all".
Yeah the TikTok people that were there as "College Kids", their audience were showering them with flowers and saying they "ate and stuff. They ate jackballs and Charlie handled those children very well.
Biggest takeaways from Parker: 1. Take your meds. 2. Probably don’t change the debate subject every single time you get up to debate. 3. Words per minute is not a sign of intelligence.
Parker was just going for the clippable gotcha moments so he could post those and get views so he would make more money. He wasn’t focused on having a productive debate or he would have stayed on topic and listened to the opposing view instead of talking over them for the next gotcha moment. I did enjoy the Dean kid even though we don’t agree. He respected the process more than Parker did.
A good debater listens and then counters with logic and reasoning. Just aggressively talking and interrupting doesn't make you an intellectual speaker.
I loved the red flags thing because it showed how impatient the fellow people sitting around were in general. People couldn't wait to speak about their stuff instead of allowing someone from their side of the eisle actually convey their ideas and points. Very good image of how people only care when it comes to their interests
The whole flag concept is ridiculous. Once a good conversation starts, the flags start to come up. Race to chair, emotional rant, get voted out, repeat.
That was great George! Love seeing you in your new lane brother. I’ve been saying for years that a (well trained) cop should be the moderator of debates. Being able to control a domestic or violent issue and de-escalating to only break it down to facts is what is needed. You should host a debate between some of these TH-camrs and hire or allow for median minded LEO to moderate. I’ll throw my hat in the ring to be that person by the way. I’m central in the political spectrum. Christianity is the only bias I may carry but even then I’m willing to listen and encourage debate or conversation. Find someone who’s comfortable shutting down the BS they spew while at the same time allowing the conversation to lead into what the actual facts are of their conversations.
Dean comes from a conservative background. It is natural to get more conservative as you get older. I just think he will stay on the right side and fight for the right causes
It doesn’t matter if they’re young if they have a following of people encouraging them to be a crappy person. Also, I think it shows that for a price they’re willing to ignore their conscience. Not a good trait.
Woke people care, both on the Right and Left. Even if it didn't simply mean "black," it still shouldn't matter. It could mean, "blacks are subhuman animals who can't control themselves and are genetically inferior to gorillas," and it still shouldn't matter that a student said it. "Free speech" unless it's something I don't want to hear...
@@kim-andrekalleklev325 BUT YOUR A RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CUS YOU SAID NAGGER!!!
@SilentPhoenix__ I think black people should lead by example. THEY should stop using it if they expect everyone else to stop using it. I believe THEY are the ones keeping that word alive, then simultaneously complaining when they hear other people use it.
@@ZionCopland That is how you see someone as being remarkable? Just intelligence and being able to debate? Hes not even that smart or able to debate well either.
@@ZionCopland It is a very valid opinion. He struggles to see things from each side. He is very black and white in his views and is part of the issue with creating this us vs them culture in politics in America right now. On top of that, his morals are extremely questionable.
I 1000% agree with Charlie Parker 👎👎👎, Dean was actually a decent debator!!! There's a reason Jubilee went with Dean to do the 1 woke student vs. 22 conservatives.
I think Parker is intelligent but he’s incredibly disrespectful & condescending… I really think he’s egotistical & looks down on anyone that doesn’t agree with him. He made me feel incredibly uncomfortable… like he seems narcissistic.. he’s just a bad faith debater.
If you're in college, "he's young" is no longer an excuse for your behavior. If you're smart enough to pursue higher education, you're smart enough to not act like a child.
@@hennygeezyi think this is actually about the Parker thing how parker is a trash debater BUT its fine cus "hes young". OP is saying that excuse holds little weight for a grown adult capable of persuing higher education
Parker was insufferable. Completely unlikeable, bad faith and thought that talking fast, interrupting and going off topic made him sound intelligent or like he was getting some ‘gotcha’ over Charlie.
The reason why Parker kept bringing up the church and God in the Jubilee debate is because he recognised what others debating Charlie didn’t recognise… that to actually undermine the conservative viewpoint you have to attack the core premises of God, His Word and His church. I agree with Charlie that Parker did not debate properly but would also like and hope that at some stage he will have a proper discussion with someone like Charlie on why we follow God and His Word.
That's the truth. We need debates from intelligent people on the "accidental creation" of human beings. All the scientists in the world can't take the core materials in semen and the female egg to produce a human being (without just fertilizing the egg, obviously). Every part of this world is just evidence of a brilliant scientist doing stuff behind the scenes. Aka God. Now, who this God is and what he wants from us is religion. But even if you see the falsehoods in Christianity (sorry) you should still see that there is a creator. That's not religion. That's a fact even a child would plainly see if the opposite wasn't preached in schools.
Parker was also on the Jubilee “Surrounded” show where Ben Shapiro debated a bunch of Kamala supporters. He seemed like he toned down quite a bit. I think he took to heart that he needs to listen more.
Context: The girl never wished for Charlie's daughter to get r-worded. She was asking Charlie **if** the horrible scenario happens to Charlie's daughter, will Charlie let her daughter get an abortion. She was posing a valid argument (abortion for underage or victims of SA). Now her response later "I hope your daughter gets away from such a disgusting father like you," is absolutely disgusting and insulting.
This exactly and Charlie overlook her point and at the last part she couldn't keep her cool, she need to used a difference approach next time. I've seen Republican agreeing that case of SA and Incest are justifiable reason for abortion
Well actually in this clip he mentions that theres cut audio in the video of her jeering further on the topic after the fact so its entirely possible she said word for word she wanted his kid to get r worded which yeah in any context is rather terrible and disgusting behavior
Age is an excuse as long as you lack the possibility of self-awareness. As soon as you can think about behaviour as such, that of others as well as your own, this is no longer something you can hang out to excuse a pattern used. You CAN talk about experience, but as long as these kids dont acknowledge that, imho it is of the table. Everyone gets that as an argument in some form when we are younger. "come into my age", "wait until you have kids on your own" and so on. Not to think about that, not to accept that experience is something to be considered and acting like that is again a choice to be made. In our times we excuse a LOT of behaviour with that - which is part of a culture not teaching the kids consequences and responsibilities. You can't wonder about that, if you dont call out misbehaviour and punish it in some form. Destiny is such a guy to. Yes, he is WAY past to be called "young", but in his behaviour and mindset he still is. He is wiedling his lifetime and what he "endured", but you can look at his life and see, he did not learn anything out of it and his bevhaviour is right on the same ally. As someone who argues that you dont need any religion to be a decent person and knowing to behave he is one of the most insulting ppl on stage, always trying to enrage his opponent in discussions and not following ANY social rules - and because he is intelligent and to his fans funny he faces no consequences. And Parker was full aware of what he did. He is visibly driven by disgust and hate towards the christian believe. He used a couple of times words chosen to insult and trigger Charlie in his core. Not only in the faith context - but he always tried to come back to that theme, as he did not want to discuss the given topics but to trigger Charlie. He is smart and has a lot of knowledge, and he loved to be cheered on by the angry crowed whenever he was able to corner or confuse Charlie who had trouble to follow up or to understand the point Parker made (as he jumped topics or "linked" them as he wished). That doesnt make him a good discussion partner. And no, it is not "most likley" he will come to senses. Your example of a certain lady who "made the same progress" is unfitting and not well choosen, as she went into personal space way to often to, especially when she discuss other conservatives. There is not even close to a guarantee Parker will learn anything, as he already is somewhat "famous" and earnes a lot of money out of it. There are plenty of lefties in their 60s now who started like Parker (not on the internet though, oc). And they still go on of these failed ideas. So Charlie is right in avoiding to talk with that kid again.
I believe a debate without removal and time limits against parker would be fairly entertaining especially with a mediator who is willing to bring him back in to a focus point, but also address his points later into a debate so as to not make it unfair
What really irked me was that at one point one of the young debaters was unrealistically, threatening Charlie Kirk with bringing back Parker as if he was such a good debater
I feel like George wasn't actually listening to Charlie that whole time. He kept pushing a debate with Parker but every single time Charlie would reply with no Dean is a way better debater.
Bad intentions with good qualities is still a bad situations ... George knew Parker had bad intentions but good intelligent point of views ... Still a bad situation
Dean, i totally agree. Parker though, maybe not so much. he has potential and could make a good point he just seriously needs to work on his speaking and debating skills
0:11 Yeah dude that was fun to watch. 5:02 Oh I only watched clips dude I can't handle a whole hour of that. Glad to see he did his research and homework for this interview.
Parker forced the religion argument, because it's the only topic he knows he has an edge against Charlie, because it's the only one that isn't rooted in facts. So he came there being disingenuous trying to debate off-topic so he looks like he's winning. Not a good debater. Find substance for the relevant topic.
This guy doesn't let Charlie talk lol but here is the point some people miss. Working in finance we are literally taught that a fast talker is one of the top 5 "red flags" to look out for in potential scammers.
As someone who’s liberal and doesn’t agree with Charlie on somethings, I couldn’t stand the liberals in that room. They were obnoxious, arguing in bad faith, dense, and pretty delusional. It was HARD to watch and take them seriously. My goodness I commend Charlie. He had the patience of a saint.
Parker was super annoying, that doesn’t make a good debater. The problem with the format was every time Charlie was making a BOOM point they’d raise their flags. OR every time 1 of the 25 was going down a road that was easily going to be blown apart by Charlie, they’d raise their flags to prevent the facts getting out
Parker was so unlikeable, he was arguing in bad faith all the time.
Most people in most media argue in bad faith when it suits them. It's the result of a generation raised on reality TV; it's not about good faith anything, only exploitation, being outrageous and getting views. The US literally elected a reality TV star. Remember Jerry Springers commencement address?
The boy, Dean, is a fool too. He did his own verison of the Jubilee video and he used tons of lies as his talking points and "evidence." I saw a segment of it on Reddit on the dumb reasons why he thinks Harris or Biden would be better presidents than Trump.
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@HelePelu Oh shoot, really?! I'm a Minnesotan and have never heard this yet. It will be big news soon if it's true.
@@HelePelu And(not allegedly but as a matter of fact) Trump hung out with Epstein AND, when asked in a Fox interview if he would release the Epstein files, he hesitated.
Don’t know who this George guy is, but I don’t get why he thinks so highly of Parker. The kid had no redeeming intellectual qualities. Just talks fast and aggressively.
He’s George with a G
2 G's @@Dubstep04
I’m a Kirk fan but can’t deny that Parker made valid arguments that had me think lol
So does Ben and Candace
@@DoReply420 you’re right
Nah George. Charlie is right it's pointless debating somebody like Parker. Constant pivoting from the original question
That's not true. Parker had Charlie pinned when he mentioned that Kirk doesn't want to prosecute murders. Then, he showed how pathetic Kirk is by using slavery as an analogy, and Kirk fell right into the trap, admitting that he would gladly retroactively punish slave-owners but not mothers who murdered their babies. You're only angry that he made Kirk look pathetic, as he's so used to "debating" low-IQ, misinformed college students.
@@Jay_Sullivan lots of presumptions. No one is angry. Just a statement. If you were less presumptuous, you might come closer to the truth. All the best.
@@huangnation4980 , oof, that's quite the comment. You claim you are not angry, and that somehow invalidates everything else I said. You're something.
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@@Jay_Sullivanno one’s angry lol bro Parker made a few points but just kept interrupting it wasn’t a debate it was a argument
That parker guy was irritating. Just refused to let CK talk then act like he was winning the debate when he wasn't.
Everyone recognized how owned he got except for your cult. He doesn't even do his creepy open mouth smile in pictures anymore because of feedback on that.
@@UndeadOmensOh goodness, when in doubt, call people cult members. Exhausting. No intellect in that entire brain 🤦🏻♂️
@@jordansipe5995 no debate. Just insults like usual. It's been proven. Just look at all the interview videos with MAGAts. They know nothing about anything. The left does not worship politicians while you guys buy Trump bibles, NFTs, and shoes, 100 stickers and flags for your car, etc. When presented with facts you choose one of 4 options: whataboutism, cry "fake news," ignore, or ignore topic while spewing insults. For example, no one answers when I ask why you guys want to vote for Trump who bragged live on air that he could walk into pageant changing rooms and get away with it. Teen girls accused him of doing this. He was on Epstein flight logs 7 times. He was sued for not allowing black people to rent his apartment. He said a group of falsely accused black men should be executed. All of this is verified and you can look it up. I can list a thousand other terrible things he did showing that Republicans can do anything and your cult won't care. Blind worship.
General John Kelly…Trumps chief of staff and secretary of Homeland Security…said this about Trump: “ The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life.” Wow...what a great choice for president!!!!!
@@timb350And the people who worked for Kamala quit their job because she showed up late everyday for work and was lazy and incompetent. What a great person to have as president
Parker is a little snake. He knew what he was doing. He was arguing in bad faith instead of debating in good faith. His juvenile way of “winning” was to change the goal post and speak really quickly to present several talking points and judge you for not talking about them all. Then after the video is over he puts on an act as if he didn’t do any of those things and pretends like nothing happened.
He’s a little snake I tell you.
Watch what Andrew Wilson does to him, it’s hilarious
now read this comment wit mcgregors accent
Typical Lefty behaviour really
Let's not even mention the fact Parker tried to point out the "chess clock" & then proceeded to jump up when there were only 3 min left in the next topic. 😅 Can't make up projection like that man...
blud is pressed
Parker is an advertisement for bullying
😂 when nerds bully 🤣
He’s more like a condom advertisement
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Hah, I wish that was an advertisment for talking over people.
I think bullying is good (to an extent) but that’s just me
Parker couldn’t bully his way out of a wet paper bag
Parker was just obnoxious, constant red herring and constantly talking over when Charlie tried to answer his questions. It’s not a debate if you dont let someone answer, youre just a clown trying to seem like the superior person by not letting someone talk
I mean…. Charlie does the same thing….
@@whales312 Charlie at least puts out legitimate points and the other kid just talks as fast as he can while making loud noises and makes talking points that don’t even have any relevance to the topic at hand….
@@whales312 Charlie lets people respond all the time, what are you on about? But you can't sit there and try to make 5 points adn expect someone to remember and respond to each one, make one point at a time. As passionv said he also was bringing in subjects that had nothing to do with the topics, like constantly every topic bringing up Charlie's religion, without fail.
@@darkflmmstr no Charlie does the red herring all the time. It’s very debate 101 so you can shift it to your narrative. A perfect example is when he says “well let me ask you this” note that.
@@whales312 when he says that it isn’t to be a distraction it generally to get back to the actual topic because people trail off from what they’re originally talking about like they’re scatter brained.
Disappointed in George " I only saw clips" that's messed up bro, if ur gonna have someone on your show for a vid then at least watch it dude...
wasn't even THAT long
Charlie Kirk puts out 30 hours or more of content a week. Pretty hard to watch it all.
@@dirtroadsandwoodstoveshe’s not saying to watch it all. But he does make a point, if you’re gunna ask specific questions about a video you should watch it, or say hey I seen some clips and ask about the specific clips
@@dirtroadsandwoodstoves right. definitely can't keep up with ALL of it. but if you're gonna talk about a specific video, its only an hour, could've probably watched it. Or you have people on your employ, have them review and make some notes, then take a look at the sections. BUT hey, just an opinion/thought. I'm sure he has plenty to go through; he does good work, just a little critique.
@@dirtroadsandwoodstovesthe original comment is referencing the jubilee video that Charlie did. Which is not 30 hours.
It is Ironic that George is telling Charlie that there's a kid that wouldn't let him speak while simultaneously not letting Charlie speak.
I thought I was the only one who noticed this.
George loves talking. He talks more than his guest. A terrible flaw for a podcaster. Just look at what bro did to his wife at 5:15 LMAO
Jesus Saves, God Bless✝️
Was looking for this comment lol
George is an idiot
George’s girl disagreeing on Parker shows who the real G is
Wow George thought Parker has any redeeming qualities is insane.
He wants views and parker was the one that got internet attention, that is why
First of all, George admits in this clip that he only watched clips and not the entire debate, so that could play a roll in his assessment.
However, it seems to me that George is just extending Parker grace. It similar to the way we should interpret our debate opponents points in the most favourable and reasonable way. (Something Parker was not doing).
In this case he’s extending grace to his character by acknowledging that he had his faults but that he has some qualities that if refined will not only make him a great debater but a powerful ally. He just needs to mature and gain some perspective.
I agree with him. Once takes the time to listen to something outside of his echo chamber and gains some lift experience perhaps he will slow down a touch and learn to debate like a professional.
He always somehow manages to read the room completely wrong and say the stupidest shit lol
I think that is very humble of him
@@GingerBear88 I understand that he has Christian faith and you see the best in people but he's a little rose tinted with this. Parker was disingenuous and would just talk over Charlie and switch topics when he was losing. He has passion but it's probably more to do with an Adderall addiction, being right, and a bad childhood than politics. I don't think he could ever be an advocate for truth. He's too damaged.
Parker is good at arguing not debating
Kid doesn’t let anyone talk
toddlers are good at arguing. it's what they do
He’s not even good at arguing lol he kept bringing up an irrelevant topic and thought he was winning
@SMA22590
I think that is what OP meant. He loves to argue and he's great at spitting out irrelevant arguments, but when it comes to proper debating, the kid falls short.
He probably Thinks he's a great debater, though.
True. ✅
Parker has the exact debate style as destiny. Speed talking, Gish galloping, red herring, false equivalency’s.
lmao no, that parker kid is like a dollar store destiny..
Lol you must’ve stole that from the left that’s exactly what the left says abt Shapiro. Understand they’re both intelligent and have great debating skills.
@@derrickcarey1677 brother no one is stealing from the left. Only the government steals from the poor, and the left is intellectually poor.
Destiny is an expert on policy. So if you disagree, you most likely aren't reading
@@Aj-kw8vjAre we talking about the guy who doesn’t even know that there’s Not-sees in Ukraine? lol okay I guess he’s an expert in your world.
“Let’s talk about Jubilee, but I only saw the clip of Parker. So I really just wanted to talk about Parker. No Charlie, you can’t finish your story because it’s not about Parker.”
George likes Parker because he is him!
Saw th entire debate... the parker guy was in an adhd menopausal stage.
Bah real
They were fact checking Charlie but weren’t fact checking the others. It was infuriating.
No there was some fact checks against his opponents.
there were some fact checks against the college students. But the reason they didnt fact check as much is cause they were telling facts? are you this out of touch?
@@luci6632
You just love everything being spoonfed to you without question huh?
@@luci6632facts said by who??? You can’t just spout that something is facts without citing evidence or research to back up that claim
@@luci6632 Facts because is what you believed in
1:38 lmao wtf? That parker guys debating strategy is
1) talk at 10x speed, without letting other person speak
2) cut off other person when they're elaborating on the answer
3) "why cant you answer the question?"
💯
I mean…. Charlie does it too? Are you not watching his other content
@@whales312 I’ve seen a lot of his content and what you’re saying isn’t true. He actually gives the other person time to speak, then responds.
@@libfit9068 I’ve watched a ridiculous amount of his content. He doesn’t I can literally show you videos. He also does red herring as much as any other debater it’s a good tactic. It’s evident when he goes like “well let me ask you this” then controls the narrative and it’s generally when he’s avoiding an answer or topic
@@whales312 Again, you’re confusing different things. When the other person is clearing moving off topic they get steered back into the proper direction in the same topic. Whereas Parker simply doesn’t even allow the other person to elaborate before bombarding them.
George should let him speak a bit more
George is constantly given this advice by his listeners. He’s getting a little better but it drives me crazy!!
You can see why he loved the Parker kid so much.
@@Absynthe23 🤣🤣 good point!
Lol funny
Yea it’s my first time seeing this guy and I won’t be watching any more of his content
Parkers "technique" is called the Gish Gallop, it's the definition of disingenuous argumentation.
Facts
charlie does it too, youre just biased
@@angel1959butt hurt gay, says someone else is butt hurt😂
@@angel1959no he doesn’t😂. You sure he’s the biased one? lol
@@jman3767 well even if I linked you videos, you wouldnt believe, so what the point
Anyone who tries to cancel anyone for saying the n-word at 14 has never played call of duty. Most males of any race have said horrific shit on that game
lol parker is not a good debater....talking fast and constantly changing subjects is no bueno. also speaking fast without substance is useless
everything I don't like is "without substance" say cult member
@UndeadOmens it was without substance " I think God doesn't exist therefore Christianity is wrong and bad". That's not even an argument.
Why do you think CK chose college *"kids"*. Even a 10 year old can look like a genius arguing with a 5 year old.
@yomaxmax6279 he chose to attend. He could have easily said, naw that’s like debating children. Give me a real challenge. I’m sure he’ll get the chance to show us true courage when he joins the front lines of whatever battle he calls for in the future. 🥴
@yomaxmax6279 who do you consider "real debaters" that he's won against?
It's crazy that they would threaten his daughter. I know they would get the exact reaction they want out of me if they did that.
Unless it was people in the crowd saying they hope is daughter got raped no one threatened his daughter. What the girl said was “I hope your daughter lives a happy life and gets away from you” in response to him saying if she was pregnant at 10 she would have her deliver the child. Is what she said nasty? Yes but in no way did she or anyone you could hear wish harm on his daughter
Its the assumption like how reddit can send care msgs when its backwards for kys
The INTENT @taquaywhite4503
Did Charlie misremember what happened or got confused saying this? A girl definitely asked Charlie a hypothetical about if he would let his young (11yo) daughter get an abortion if she got raped, to which Charlie of course said no, and this heated up to her leaving with the remark “If that happens I hope your daughter leaves you” or something nasty like that.
Unless something else happened that I don’t remember, this seems like a misrepresentation of what was said.
@@GrouchyGrinch1the "if that happens..." Part seems like she's hoping it happens to "show him he's wrong" type of thing. Otherwise it's a moot point
The reaction they wanted was, "Wow, I would never encourage my daughter to not murder that baby. You're right: abortion should not be restricted."
Wow this George guy is really naive for thinking that Parker is the way he is because he is young. Parker is a snake. He knows what he is doing.
Hes a snake because he's not on ur side
@jakejshine Nah, he is a snake cause he is disingenuous.
@@awesome395 how so?
@@jakejshineCharlie asks a question about college. Parker then starts to ask his own question about college but then midway completely changes the subject to Christianity and about how that’s bad. When Charlie tries to answer the question about college he then talks over him and saying that because the answer that he gave him wasn’t right (in his eyes) he then is wrong about everything. That’s is quite literally the definition of a red herring my guy.
@@awesome395 that so ironic from your cult defending the most disingenuous loon on the internet
LET YOUR GUEST COMPLETE HIS SENTENCE. Gosh
I used to watch George but he speaks over everyone and it's impossible to watch him anymore
E😂😂
that's probably why he loves Parker so much😂
George you be talking too much, talking over your co host, stopped watching your pods because you talk tooo much bro let others talk too
Idk I actually kinda like George’s commentary on the subject matter.
Logan? Is this your secret second account?
It's called the George Show...
@@eXit-ubermensch 🤦♂
There was one I was really excited to watch and he wouldn’t stfu. Can only watch him in short spurts now
Parker deadass kept arguing about religion every time he went up 😂
Just shows he is evil and one of the devil’s minions
dead ass saw him in a different jubilee vid and was like. oh is he going to make the debate about religon
that parker kid was just trying to get charlie with "gotcha" moments on topics that werent even up for debate in the forum, it was a laughable attempt. I'm not surprised that was the "best" jubilee could find to combat charlies logic.
Parker must've learned to "debate" from Destiny - be loud, talk fast, and ignore any facts you don't agree with
2:05 he is NOT smart every time i see him within 30 seconds of talking he invalidates his argument or changes the subject or just rambles and then brings up religion with no understanding of religion in the first place
Exactly what I thought, Parker just acts smart. He's the little brother you didn't want
He's like many people that think they see grey , but all's they see is black and white. There's book smart liberals, then theres genuine intelligence and understanding the very fabrics of the what is and isn't. They are so wrapped up in their little bubble they will never see the world for what it truly is
It’s funny that your comment about how someone else “isn’t very smart” is actually one run-on sentence with literally no capitalization.
@@Willtellthetruth Well, he didn’t claim that he himself was an intellectual, did he?
@@Willtellthetruth bro ur insufferable
5:42 is solid. I used to see the over-dramatic / insulty vids of Charlie on a campus. But then I slowly start seeing him listening more and having legitimate convos with them and I applaud him for it. There are a lot of humans who are lost and we need to not cast them out entirely but reach them with truth! Thanks Charlie (and George+wife) for what you guys do!
I totally agree I think Dean is smarter and definitely has potential. Parker was awful and incapable of having an intellectual debate.
dean literally dug a hole into himself by saying donald trump is a racist because he said something years ago when he himself was. insulting people on discord. hes stupid. at least parker didnt do that.
@@chillfrosted2670well i think the significant difference is, dean was like 14-15 with an underdeveloped brain, trump is a grown man lmfao. definitely not comparable
@@haileyl3315 the age difference doesn’t actually justify one over the other. dean might’ve been younger, but insulting people on a public platform is a choice, regardless of age. if you’re going to point fingers at someone for something they said in the past, it’s pretty hypocritical to brush it off just because of age. besides, the “underdeveloped brain” excuse only goes so far - 14-year-olds definitely know the difference between right and wrong, especially when it comes to blatant disrespect.
@@haileyl3315 also insulting people on discord wasnt even when he was 14. that was 2 years ago
@chillfrosted2670 age definitely does matter lmfao. there are different expectations from a 14 year old BOY and a 40 year old man. i fear that is basic knowledge. and i’m not excusing what he did nor am i saying it is okay, he has repeatedly apologized for it. other than that there is not much else he can do, while 14 year olds do know right from wrong the brain quite literally is not fully developed to know how damaging their actions can be until they are older. i’m sure you have said some questionable things when you were younger you are just fortunate enough that it will never be aired out. he is embarrassed as he should be and sorry he did it.
I dislike the "You're debating college kids" excuse, as if college students are incapable of holding an intellectual debate. They are entitled when they want to be and victims when they want to be.
It’s kinda funny when they use that excuse because they are basically admitting college kids are no longer very smart
@@kmilli0313 Exactly which devalues going to college more!
It's like we're not talking about supposed adults here, who should be able to think in a reasonable level
People treat them like high school students, they're just dumb kids and they don't even have the right to vote!
that doesnt make sense, charlie is grown man with talking points, no way some kids driven by empathy nad passion could have beatin him on sucha cases. not to mention he is fraud and clown
I agree with Charlie 1000% I had the same thought before I even watched this!
Parker is 🚮.
Dean though, has potential. He comes across as articulate and honest, just misled. I’m interested to see him as he grows in this sphere.
Only kid that made a good point was dean. Parker was a wannabe destiny and really didn’t make any good points at all. Dean could definitely be solid tho. Idk why George is so stuck on the Parker kid. Like bruh George what are you saying my guy lol? Maybe cause George also interrupts so that why he relates to the Parker kid lmaooo
Charlie Kirk is the master debater, he will master debate anyone anywhere
Easy now, that joke might offend his "good Christian boy" sensibilities.
he won't debate destiny
haha, debate anyone? all i see on his channel is just him debating college students
@@CMA418holy shit did you actually leave 13 comments on this video 😂😂😂 bored eh?
@@pehpuhpig oh yeah, sometimes I binge all in one comment section. Haha
I actually figure most of them disappear even though EVERY SINGLE COMMENT I make supposedly gets ONE “like” 2 mins after I post it. Have you run into that? It started a few months ago.
Parker was disingenuous, arrogant, and over emotional. He definitely seemed deranged.
Parker doesn’t deserve another opportunity to debate Charlie Kirk
Parker was literally saying demonic things. lol.
He’s Voldemort man
Parker is more than likely a collegiate debater. The goal in debate in the college ranks is to get as much information out as possible so your opponent misses something and then you win. It doesn't matter if it's relevant to topic, just that your opponent misses your argument, so the more information you put out the easier it is for your opponent to miss something.
Nah he didn't even put out real arguments against the topic at hand he just changed topic and made some weird false equivalence about charlies religion, he would get kicked out by a moderator at any real debate lol
Whenever a long format content creator says they can’t sit through long format content then I can’t watch their content.
"You have to remember, this kid is young." That's not an excuse, though. These younger gens have absolutely been allowed to run wild. Nobody holds them accountable, so they act in the most puerile way possible. Social media has completely ruined the ability for these kids to engage like rational people.
explain how they "run wild" lol are you paranoid
Parker is deranged! Bad take George, you should watch the whole debate if you’re going to talk about it.
George’s opinion on Parker just proves that if you present yourself with confidence, you can convince George you know better than him…even if you are saying nothing of substance. Lol. I would NOT want to be married to him. He’s the type of guy that gets screwed over allllll the time by care salesmen types. GEORGE! Grow some discernment!
Are you kidding me? Parker was the worst person there. He couldn't even stay within the question. He was like a train without rails. It was the worst part of the entire show. I really enjoyed when there was a healthy back and forth. But when Parker was on it was mayhem. Like a box of fireworks being lit. He also used intimidation tactics to hit Charlie. Rather than refuting points, he went for the person. Parker is weak and was the worst in the room for many reasons. Do not mistake his quick-fire attitude for strength or knowledge. he wouldn't even listen to an answer before shooting the next missile; that was totally unrelated. The dude was horrific, and has so much to learn.
George please stop talking over your guests and interrupting everyone all the time you have such a good heart and you bring in high class individuals please let them speak. You’re interviewing them..
I'm actually not surprised that George was "impressed" by Parker. Like previously being friends with Logan, I think he is super susceptible to listening to someone speak confidently, and not being able to see their true intentions & personality through that facade of "I know it all".
Yeah the TikTok people that were there as "College Kids", their audience were showering them with flowers and saying they "ate and stuff. They ate jackballs and Charlie handled those children very well.
Biggest takeaways from Parker: 1. Take your meds. 2. Probably don’t change the debate subject every single time you get up to debate. 3. Words per minute is not a sign of intelligence.
Take your meds but not too much meds
he never did he was using it to dismantle charlies logic, stop being biased
Parker was just going for the clippable gotcha moments so he could post those and get views so he would make more money. He wasn’t focused on having a productive debate or he would have stayed on topic and listened to the opposing view instead of talking over them for the next gotcha moment.
I did enjoy the Dean kid even though we don’t agree. He respected the process more than Parker did.
Disliking for George trying to stick up for Parker.
Parker's a TikTok debater? Yeah that makes sense.
no george... that's not how you debate. even if he came over to "our side", he would be hated on his method of debating.
Janko is on that kid Parkers nuts🤦♂️👎. That woke kid was deviating every question.....its called immaturity
A good debater listens and then counters with logic and reasoning. Just aggressively talking and interrupting doesn't make you an intellectual speaker.
Rhetorically speaking, Parker is a Destiny clone. That's where he gets his debate tactic playbook from. I'm surprised people don't see that.
I loved the red flags thing because it showed how impatient the fellow people sitting around were in general. People couldn't wait to speak about their stuff instead of allowing someone from their side of the eisle actually convey their ideas and points. Very good image of how people only care when it comes to their interests
The whole flag concept is ridiculous. Once a good conversation starts, the flags start to come up. Race to chair, emotional rant, get voted out, repeat.
That was great George! Love seeing you in your new lane brother. I’ve been saying for years that a (well trained) cop should be the moderator of debates. Being able to control a domestic or violent issue and de-escalating to only break it down to facts is what is needed. You should host a debate between some of these TH-camrs and hire or allow for median minded LEO to moderate. I’ll throw my hat in the ring to be that person by the way. I’m central in the political spectrum. Christianity is the only bias I may carry but even then I’m willing to listen and encourage debate or conversation. Find someone who’s comfortable shutting down the BS they spew while at the same time allowing the conversation to lead into what the actual facts are of their conversations.
Dean comes from a conservative background. It is natural to get more conservative as you get older. I just think he will stay on the right side and fight for the right causes
5:55 very interesting answer to him debating college kids - wow i gained respect for Charlie after the Jubilee and this, never thought id say this
I wanna see Charlie Kirk debate Nick Fuentez. I think that would be a really interesting debate
why? they have the same talking points, what would they debate over
@@angel1959 nah i'm pretty sure they disagree on some things and I know Nick himself said he would like to debate Charlie Kirk that's why I said that
@@Zenith-nc3om well I mean 2 clowns debating could be fun
I'm so happy you had Charlie on the podcast. ❤🎉
It doesn’t matter if they’re young if they have a following of people encouraging them to be a crappy person.
Also, I think it shows that for a price they’re willing to ignore their conscience. Not a good trait.
THIS!!!!!!
I don't care if he said the "N-word" 10 days ago... who cares?
Woke people care, both on the Right and Left. Even if it didn't simply mean "black," it still shouldn't matter. It could mean, "blacks are subhuman animals who can't control themselves and are genetically inferior to gorillas," and it still shouldn't matter that a student said it. "Free speech" unless it's something I don't want to hear...
I dont care of someone said it tomorrow...
@@kim-andrekalleklev325 BUT YOUR A RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CUS YOU SAID NAGGER!!!
As a black guy I really don't care. Word shouldn't be used anyway
@SilentPhoenix__ I think black people should lead by example. THEY should stop using it if they expect everyone else to stop using it. I believe THEY are the ones keeping that word alive, then simultaneously complaining when they hear other people use it.
Parker's logic: "I talk over him so i win"
CK is literally a remarkable man
why and how?
@mikel6090 highly intelligent and an excellent debater
@@ZionCopland That is how you see someone as being remarkable? Just intelligence and being able to debate?
Hes not even that smart or able to debate well either.
@@mikel6090 that can be your opinion
@@ZionCopland It is a very valid opinion. He struggles to see things from each side. He is very black and white in his views and is part of the issue with creating this us vs them culture in politics in America right now. On top of that, his morals are extremely questionable.
I 1000% agree with Charlie Parker 👎👎👎, Dean was actually a decent debator!!! There's a reason Jubilee went with Dean to do the 1 woke student vs. 22 conservatives.
I think Parker is intelligent but he’s incredibly disrespectful & condescending… I really think he’s egotistical & looks down on anyone that doesn’t agree with him. He made me feel incredibly uncomfortable… like he seems narcissistic.. he’s just a bad faith debater.
Guys let Charlie speak for goodness sake 😂
If you're in college, "he's young" is no longer an excuse for your behavior. If you're smart enough to pursue higher education, you're smart enough to not act like a child.
is about the n word situation? he was 14 dawg
@@hennygeezyi think this is actually about the Parker thing how parker is a trash debater BUT its fine cus "hes young". OP is saying that excuse holds little weight for a grown adult capable of persuing higher education
This would have been better is George's girl did the interview no offense homie
Parker was insufferable. Completely unlikeable, bad faith and thought that talking fast, interrupting and going off topic made him sound intelligent or like he was getting some ‘gotcha’ over Charlie.
Agree. When I was active on tic tok, had the same assessment.
The reason why Parker kept bringing up the church and God in the Jubilee debate is because he recognised what others debating Charlie didn’t recognise… that to actually undermine the conservative viewpoint you have to attack the core premises of God, His Word and His church. I agree with Charlie that Parker did not debate properly but would also like and hope that at some stage he will have a proper discussion with someone like Charlie on why we follow God and His Word.
That's the truth. We need debates from intelligent people on the "accidental creation" of human beings. All the scientists in the world can't take the core materials in semen and the female egg to produce a human being (without just fertilizing the egg, obviously). Every part of this world is just evidence of a brilliant scientist doing stuff behind the scenes. Aka God. Now, who this God is and what he wants from us is religion. But even if you see the falsehoods in Christianity (sorry) you should still see that there is a creator. That's not religion. That's a fact even a child would plainly see if the opposite wasn't preached in schools.
0:27 the increased the temperature because Charlie was wearing a suit
i hate that he kept cutting charlie off about parker. i really wanted to know his full thoughts on those debates
Parker was also on the Jubilee “Surrounded” show where Ben Shapiro debated a bunch of Kamala supporters. He seemed like he toned down quite a bit. I think he took to heart that he needs to listen more.
Context:
The girl never wished for Charlie's daughter to get r-worded. She was asking Charlie **if** the horrible scenario happens to Charlie's daughter, will Charlie let her daughter get an abortion. She was posing a valid argument (abortion for underage or victims of SA). Now her response later "I hope your daughter gets away from such a disgusting father like you," is absolutely disgusting and insulting.
This exactly and Charlie overlook her point and at the last part she couldn't keep her cool, she need to used a difference approach next time. I've seen Republican agreeing that case of SA and Incest are justifiable reason for abortion
Well actually in this clip he mentions that theres cut audio in the video of her jeering further on the topic after the fact so its entirely possible she said word for word she wanted his kid to get r worded which yeah in any context is rather terrible and disgusting behavior
Age is an excuse as long as you lack the possibility of self-awareness. As soon as you can think about behaviour as such, that of others as well as your own, this is no longer something you can hang out to excuse a pattern used.
You CAN talk about experience, but as long as these kids dont acknowledge that, imho it is of the table. Everyone gets that as an argument in some form when we are younger. "come into my age", "wait until you have kids on your own" and so on. Not to think about that, not to accept that experience is something to be considered and acting like that is again a choice to be made.
In our times we excuse a LOT of behaviour with that - which is part of a culture not teaching the kids consequences and responsibilities. You can't wonder about that, if you dont call out misbehaviour and punish it in some form.
Destiny is such a guy to. Yes, he is WAY past to be called "young", but in his behaviour and mindset he still is. He is wiedling his lifetime and what he "endured", but you can look at his life and see, he did not learn anything out of it and his bevhaviour is right on the same ally. As someone who argues that you dont need any religion to be a decent person and knowing to behave he is one of the most insulting ppl on stage, always trying to enrage his opponent in discussions and not following ANY social rules - and because he is intelligent and to his fans funny he faces no consequences.
And Parker was full aware of what he did. He is visibly driven by disgust and hate towards the christian believe. He used a couple of times words chosen to insult and trigger Charlie in his core. Not only in the faith context - but he always tried to come back to that theme, as he did not want to discuss the given topics but to trigger Charlie.
He is smart and has a lot of knowledge, and he loved to be cheered on by the angry crowed whenever he was able to corner or confuse Charlie who had trouble to follow up or to understand the point Parker made (as he jumped topics or "linked" them as he wished). That doesnt make him a good discussion partner.
And no, it is not "most likley" he will come to senses.
Your example of a certain lady who "made the same progress" is unfitting and not well choosen, as she went into personal space way to often to, especially when she discuss other conservatives.
There is not even close to a guarantee Parker will learn anything, as he already is somewhat "famous" and earnes a lot of money out of it. There are plenty of lefties in their 60s now who started like Parker (not on the internet though, oc). And they still go on of these failed ideas.
So Charlie is right in avoiding to talk with that kid again.
Think it’s time for 25 vs 25 😂
Parker tried to disprove an entire religion instead of actually debating. Completely dishonest debater.
I’d love to go the rest of my life never hearing Parker’s voice or seeing his face again.
I believe a debate without removal and time limits against parker would be fairly entertaining especially with a mediator who is willing to bring him back in to a focus point, but also address his points later into a debate so as to not make it unfair
What really irked me was that at one point one of the young debaters was unrealistically, threatening Charlie Kirk with bringing back Parker as if he was such a good debater
I feel like George wasn't actually listening to Charlie that whole time. He kept pushing a debate with Parker but every single time Charlie would reply with no Dean is a way better debater.
Bad intentions with good qualities is still a bad situations ... George knew Parker had bad intentions but good intelligent point of views ... Still a bad situation
Dean & Parker are absolute legends. They’re so unbelievably smart & speak with such eloquence it’s truly fascinating to watch them debate
Lol good joke
Dean, i totally agree. Parker though, maybe not so much. he has potential and could make a good point he just seriously needs to work on his speaking and debating skills
this george guy just watched clips, he should watch the whole debate before he said his opinion, parker is not a debater. Talks fast but no substance.
0:11 Yeah dude that was fun to watch.
5:02 Oh I only watched clips dude I can't handle a whole hour of that.
Glad to see he did his research and homework for this interview.
Parker is not a debater, he just uses anything he can against charlie to win.
Dean, I respect
Parker forced the religion argument, because it's the only topic he knows he has an edge against Charlie, because it's the only one that isn't rooted in facts.
So he came there being disingenuous trying to debate off-topic so he looks like he's winning. Not a good debater. Find substance for the relevant topic.
Parker and Dean lol! Those two were definitely sniffing each others farts after the show.
Parker's debating isnt the way to debate
How has this channel never popped up in my feeds???
Parker turned me into a right winger
This guy doesn't let Charlie talk lol but here is the point some people miss. Working in finance we are literally taught that a fast talker is one of the top 5 "red flags" to look out for in potential scammers.
As someone who’s liberal and doesn’t agree with Charlie on somethings, I couldn’t stand the liberals in that room. They were obnoxious, arguing in bad faith, dense, and pretty delusional. It was HARD to watch and take them seriously. My goodness I commend Charlie. He had the patience of a saint.
Parker was super annoying, that doesn’t make a good debater. The problem with the format was every time Charlie was making a BOOM point they’d raise their flags. OR every time 1 of the 25 was going down a road that was easily going to be blown apart by Charlie, they’d raise their flags to prevent the facts getting out
George your moral compass is a blessing from God.
I watched the video on 1.75 speed and when Parker started talking and I had to slow it down 😂😂
7:30 100% agree