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- Sonic the Hedgehog and Shadow the Hedgehog are tied together. Not necessarily in that they are from the same Sonic game franchise, but because...well...they are both hedgehogs. But in Shadow, Sonic sees part of himself. A part that of himself that scares him. But what is it exactly? Join your host, Grant, as we dissect Shadow and Sonic's relationship and figure out Sonic's true despair in the Story You Never Knew!
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Q: "How would you describe Sonic and Shadow's relationship?"
A: 'I hate you, but if the world needs saving, I will work with you.'
Lily Filbert they don't hate each other
It's not really a hate-hate relationship. It's more of a 'I don't like you and you don't like me. but the world needs saving. let's work together.'
Lily Filbert that sounds like they have no relationship at all.
you know what? IDC. I know what I said. and that's that. end of discussion.
Lily Filbert So true xd
There's a whole 'nother side to this that you failed to see. First and foremost, Sonic the Hedgehog is a Chaotic Good character. He's not aligned with Law and Order. Far from it, actually. He's a rebellious teenager obsessed with his personal freedom (and of course, the freedom of others), and he hates being restrained or tied down. He's a nomad without a home, travelling the world in search of adventure. His only master is the wind that blows freely. He doesn't care about what others think or say is right, he doesn't care what the established written rules and laws are. He lives life by his own rules and does what he thinks is right. This is the focal point of his battles against Eggman. Doctor Eggman's goal is to take over the world with his machines. Under his rule, everyone would be enslaved and practically mindless robots following his every command. In a world where everything runs like a well-oiled machine, there is no freedom.
Now onto Shadow. You mentioned that Shadow's loss and how he's forever scarred by that loss is the aspect of Sonic that he embodies and the blue blur is afraid of deep down. But that's one side of the bigger picture. Since Shadow and Sonic are two sides of the same coin, Shadow is innately chaotic just like Sonic. But ever since his creation, that chaos has always been restrained. Just look at his inhibitor rings, they are the literal representaion of it. But it goes deeper than that.
When Maria died and Shadow was imprisoned, G.U.N had Professor Gerald finish his work and stuff, under their survellaince or something. But, Maria's death triggered something in the professor. He ended up brainwashing and manipulating Shadow's mind, so that if Shadow is ever released, he would carry out Gerald's act of revenge. Near the end of SA2, Amy Rose managed to break Shadow out of that mental reprogramming, and he remembered Maria's true wish of protecting humanity.
Skipping ahead to his own game, Shadow's quest to figure out who he really is and get his memory back involves constant sidemissions and guidance from the other characters, from Sonic and crew to Eggman to Black Doom. Shadow was being pulled in many different directions and told various answers on who he is.
After that, starting with Sonic '06, Shadow now works for the military. He is a G.U.N agent that carries out orders from the president. This is where things become very clear as to what I am talking about. Sonic is Chaos, and Shadow is Chaos... Controlled. "Chaos Control". He's been used as an agent for a higher power rather than his own free man. Whether it's from Gerald's mental reprogramming or the command of the government military force, Shadow is living a life that Sonic would never ever want. Working for the government is something Sonic would never ever do, it completely goes against who he is and what he stands for. Shadow the Hedgehog isn't just Sonic after sufferring a great loss... Shadow the Hedgehog is what Sonic is without his freedom, under someone else's control. Shadow's whole personality is both of those hypothetical happened to Sonic. If he suffered a great traumatic loss of a loved one, and had his freedom stripped from him, forced to live under the control of a higher power, carrying out missions by the will of that higher power.
Speaking of love, Sonic's freedom is the true underlying reason why he does not pursue romance. It becomes clear in Sonic '06, during that CGI scene between him and Elise in the forest, the moment shows us clearly that Sonic and Elise's feelings for each other are mutual, but then Elise asks if Sonic's going to leave once he beats Eggman, and he confirms that he will. Elise realizes that Sonic is a free spirit and won't be chained down. He can't stay in one place for too long, he has to keep moving, to see new sights, to find more adventure. Yeah, maybe the fear of losing the ones closest to him could play a part in it deep deep down, but it's mostly because of his love of freedom and adventure.
Sparky-the-Kitsune This video is too pretentious, it's just talking a whole lot but not saying anything really new or insightful. I agree with your comment, these guys seem to have missed the entire point of Sonic's personality.
This is an impressive and well thought out piece. Well done.
Thanks for this, helped me understand the situation better.
this needs more thumbs up.
While I agree completely with what you said, I can’t wrap my mind around using 06 in an argument. Not because the game isn’t good, but because the game isn’t canon anymore. I love the analysis you pulled from it, especially the line: “Sonic is Chaos, and Shadow is Chaos...controlled.” But I just wish SEGA provided us more canon examples of that. 😩
If wether Shadow was in love with Maria or not is debatable. Their relationship was more of a brother and sister, to be honest.
Blu Spikes I see Maria to Shadow as more of a mother figure since she was the only female he's ever known lol
If anyone was Shadow's parent, it was Gerald.
Kind of like Megaman and Dr. Light.
Blu Spikes In love as in brother and sister works too. They love each other as in brother and sister.
Blu Spikes Nah, I see it more as a friendship
Blu Spikes Maria might have also played a parental figure to him.
"The only character who could use Chaos Control at this point in the series was Sonic."
"Chaos Control" was invented for Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow was the first one to ever use it. Sonic is flabbergasted by Shadow using it because it's something he's NEVER seen before (and hence why he initially thinks Shadow's just "fast.") That's why Sonic using Chaos Control later in the game (with a fake emerald, of all things) is such an important story beat. And also why Sonic specifically refers to it as "your" move when fighting Shadow.
wow though i was the only one who knew that
I don't think he meant that. What I think he meant to say is , sonic was the only one able to use the powers of the chaos emeralds up until now.
Wasn't the whole reason they were on planet Earth because sonic used chaos control?
Ariel Boysen I think Sonic did it by accident because he didn't really know it was a thing, whereas Shadow not only knew about Chaos Control, but knew how to deliberately use it.
@@Danny_Deleto nah b your thinking of Sonic X, in the games it's... pretty inconsistent actually, by that i mean up until Forces humans were the main townies but in Forces you don't see a single one besides Eggman and other animals are the townies (although i feel like considering the designs Sonic Team was inspired by Sonic Boom for those)
And then in some games you do have humans
And the rest just has no townies so it's hard to say
shadow fights to protect what he failed to as sonic is working hard to never let it happen
Yeah we know. We watched the video
Indie
IT'S CALLED A _S U M M A R Y_, GEEZ
Now I'm imagining how Sonic would react if Tails dies.
Obi-Wan Kenobi If Tails dies and Sonic doesn't cry, I will cry the Pacific Ocean for him.
Tails: "Sonic! Help!"
Sonic: "shut up Tails!!"
*Sonic ova
Obi-Wan Kenobi *dark sonic*
Lost World, my friend
Hello there
It was shown in the comic series that during the initial experiments, Dr. Gerald couldn't sustain the formula without some form of host body to act as a carrier. He had a few samples of hedgehog DNA, but was still running into problems. That's when Black Doom showed up. He gave Gerald some samples of his own DNA and Gerald was able to create Shadow from that. During Shadow's formative years, Gerald hoped he would become a savior and encouraged his sibling-like relationship with Maria, until the GUN raid.
There is ONE incorrect fact that I'd like to point out toward the beginning of the video. Shadow was actually the first character to use Chaos Control, Sonic actually learned it (excessively easily) by watching Shadow use it. In fact, the last time they fight in Sonic Adventure (when you play as Shadow) Sonic actually says "I'll use your Chaos Control!", because he's literally copying Shadow's abilities.
ASIDE FROM THAT, this is really solid!
Literally, thank you so much 🎉
Getting the the facts right
Shadow and Sonic’s relationship is a frenemies ordeal in my eyes....
Altro Gaming Bros I see a friendly rivalry
M dio pero en
Not only is his name "Shadow", but his original name actually meant "reflection of" in Latin. Just throwing that in the ring!
Suace please!!
I WANT TO KNOW!!!
@@KevinMartinez-nn9qv that was all and since shadow and sonic are always having a rivalry he's a reflection of sonic
@@KevinMartinez-nn9qv His original name was "Terios"
Fun fact: The name Project Shadow was actually mocking Gerald in a way as if it that it is impossible to create an actual shadow
Actually, Sonic never did chaos control prior to meeting Shadow. In fact, he somehow learned to do it from Shadow
Wait what?
xX EPIC_MINION_MINECRAFT_TROLLS_2017_XD Xx Knuckles could never use chaos control..
nope
BruteTartarus67 I never said that. I was talking about Sonic using a chaos emerald to perform chaos control
Shadow Stephen sonic 2 he turns super and in sonic 3 and knuckles
"If he falls in love, Sonic has someone to lose."
Uh, what about his friends? You mean to tell me he won't be upset if Tails dies?
I guess he means in a deeper WAY deeper way.
Tails,kuckles and others may be dear to him.if he lost them im pretty sure he would be depressed by life.
I think that sonics fear of love is more the fear of feeling like nothing matters
Anymore.while losing a dear friend sucks.cruel as it seems he would be able to somewhat accept the loss.
With someone he loves way more than friendship...
Sonic may not be able to save the world again.
His bond with Tails is something special. It's brotherly, and deeper than any romantic attraction. Usually in the games, if anyone so much as bruises Tails, he doesn't hesitate to go balistic on them. In the Sonic Boom cartoon, he actually fired Tails from being his sidekick after he crashed the Tornado and nearly died, vowing to never let him get hurt again. If Tails died, it might be enough to push him over the edge for good. He was narrowly snapped out of Dark Super Sonic by Eggman of all people in Sonic X, and that was over Chris and Cosmo. If it had been Tails, saving him wouldn't been an option.
friends dont go to the same degree tho
how about a Story you never knew about Silver The Hedgehog?
I'd totally watch that :3
Minochu243 I want this to be top comment. Silver definitely needs some love.
he sure does, great character
I mean we got Shadow (past) Sonic (present) now we just need Silver too (future) ...Idk but it makes sense to my mind :3
Minochu243 Yeah! give Silver some love!
Minochu243 yeah silver is my fav sonic character despite all the hate from him
Christian Chimezie Who would have guessed.
this actually reminds me to something said on the Archie Comics: Scourge, an evil version of Sonic (don't worry about it, isn't the weirdest thing), explains how they are different even though both of them are "Sonics", Scourge says "the only difference between me and you is a bad day", and the same can be applied to this.
It still bothers me that a character that is actually an in-depth being - Shadow - was squandered in such a clumsy way. Wasted potential...
Amazing. The true story of this really defines real life. The people who feel if they know love, it will scar them when the love is gone...shadowing the people who are so happy and beaming...the reason why they sometimes get along and sometimes don't. It is the deepest thing you will ever get in a sonic game. One like is one deep thought...it you need one right now.
I never thought of their relationship like that. Good video.
Hey Treesicle, just so you know there was a point where Sonic was just like Shadow. There's something called Dark Sonic that appeared in Sonic X. In this form, Sonic turns all black and his eyes turn white. But this is not just a physical change, it happened when Sonic had thought that the secondary protagonist, Chris, had died and this form appears. In other words, Sonic does know the pain and has gone through it before. Your theory is completely true. Like this comment so everyone can see.
is it cannon?
@@texangem yeah, aren't the tv shows and comics not canon?
I don't see Sonic X Canon to the games.
I see it more like a Spinoff.
You do relize that dark sonic is a complete phsyco path right whilst shadow is kust edgy.
@@user-sp2jg9rx8r its canon
Sonic is not lawful in any way. Sonic's moral alignment is chaotic good. He's not aligned with any orderly governed system, he's completely free and detached. Sonic lives life freely, by his own rules. He doesn't listen to what others thinks is right, and he hates authority.
*Fucking* this!!! ^^^
Sparky-the-Kitsune this is actually true
Sonic doesnt care if your the govt, Eggman, or whoever, he does what he pleases because hes free
He would be like an anarchist but in a good way
His World
Sparky-the-Kitsune And he likes chilidogs
Gekkouga Girl Glad you like it. 😁
Tressicle: Sonic, Shadow are rivals
ME: I could've solve that one myself, next you'll be saying "Are apples RED"
They could be green though
Don't forget golden!
Go down to B&Q or Home Depot, you can buy paint and make whatever-coloured apple you want.
No. After all it’s just a theory.
A GAME THEORY.
Also, Shadow became a hero in Sonic 06 as he fought to keep Maria's promise to protect humanity even when the world would be against him
but 06 never happend
kai // NEKO The stuff with Elise, Mephiles, Solaris, and Iblis didn't happen.
Shadow Stephen no, the whole game just never happened because all the events were because Sonic met Elise while the accident of 10 years existed. but then it ended up never happening so..
+Shadow Stephen shadow never hinted that he was saving the world for maria, or even that he valued humanity. he just didn't feel like fighting the world unnecessarily, or let time and space end.
+Dreq the Dreck
maybe not in 06 but his initial goal was always to keep Maria's promise ever since SA2, that's when he said it too. However, we can assume that he continued that promise in his own way by joining the G.U.N. and keeping order in the world, dont you think?
the idea of shadow literally being a shadow of sonic, literally blew my mind but Im amazed that i never thought of it that way.
He's... he's an anti hero
DJ Howard thank you for noticing
Lol that's what I thought too
DJ Howard 69 likes
Edit: Now 70
OMG! You definitely open my eyes more than i ever did, i mean, my favorite character is Shadow because he knows what reality is, it's not only about happiness and love, as you Say, Sonic don't know exactly the meaning of losing something important, (that's why i don't like him too much), but seriously, I like your video, you talk about very deep points about Shadow, new subscriber ;)
Doesn't everyone know already that they are rivals?
they do
zoeylike1 A lot of people don't realize that.
I've met people who legit thought they were brothers.
@Ichiyama22 your joking?
+Ichiyama22 I don't think that really counts. Those people are the kind of people who think Link is Zelda, and all Pokemon are Pikachus.
When saying "The story you never knew", it's probably reasonable to assume that it's something not known by the fanbase, not random passerbys. Those random passerbys, pretty much know nothing about the series, so you could pretty much say anything about the character, and say that it's "The story you never knew".
It's one of my main gripes with this channel. The pretty thumbnails and title is a cheap way to draw people in.
I appreciate you not completely shitting on Shadow like so many other videos do.
7:21 Chaotic neutral, Lawful good....Sonic twitter much?
adel rayen edgy evil
sonic is more chaotic good, eggman lawful evil, shadow chaotic neutral
Xaldror Tender of the Vats yup
Damn, I did not expect this to be so freaking deep.
How did an immortality formula turn into a hedgehog? Perhaps the giant mural in Hidden Palace Zone depicting an angelic glowing hedgehog fighting a giant mustachioed mech in outer space was discovered when Prof. Gerald was studying the Chaos Emeralds (which we know that he did in Emerl's backstory). It could easily have been construed as Shadow and the ARK rather than the Doomsday Zone fight at the end of Sonic & Knuckles.
Chrome166 Well I mean, it could have been a giant space lizard
Deep video. I loved it, and I feel as if it was educational yet entertaining to watch... It's a shame that comments that aren't funny don't get any attention.
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Any ideas for other relationship vids we should do? Let me know! Purty plz
ALERT BRIGADE.
Treesicle here
Treesicle Vegeta and bulma they kinda failed in love
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Treesicle I am notification squad
That's really deep, I never really saw Sonic and Shadow that way man, so thank you so much for that fam!
I love the way you explain all of those things! You give me reasons to stop and think about it for a minute.
Anne GaGaJackson Same
Sonic and Shadow do become friendly rivals so there is SOME affection between them.
dont u dare
Since when could Sonic use Chaos Control before Shadow came in? Sure he can turn super but that's kind of different from being able to teleport/slow down time. I mean, both actions would require the use of Chaos emeralds but in Sonic's case he would need all 7 (or 6 in the first game), he couldn't do anything with just one. I get that he can harness the power of Chaos but still, that's with all 7, he didn't even know what "Chaos Control" was until Shadow came in.
Well what is Chaos Control but the ability to harness and manipulate the power of the Chaos Emeralds? One could argue that Sonic's Super form is his using Chaos Control to augment his own body.
Ichiyama22 I'd say that's more like, controlling the power of Chaos. When you hear the words "Chaos Control" you think of Shadow getting ready to teleport. When you hear "Chaos Spear" you know he's getting ready to attack. Simply saying that Sonic already knew how to use/do "Chaos Control" before Shadow when we have no proof is...odd to say the least.
Wait, so you're saying Super Sonic isn't Chaos Control...because Sonic doesn't verbally prompt it?
Ichiyama22 Super Sonic = controlling the power of Chaos, as I said. Chaos Control = Shadow teleporting/slowing down time...as I said.
Okay, but how does Shadow teleport, manipulate space-time, and perform Chaos Control at all? By harnessing and manipulating the Chaos Energy. And Chaos Energy is literally the power of the Chaos Emeralds, which get their power from Chaos.
This was interesting and it reminded me of the relationship between Sonic and Scourge on the comics... to an extent. Especially since for a while Sonic was haunted by something Scourge said to him: " All it takes is one bad day to become just like me." I think that's a cool little thing in the comics.
shadow wasn’t in love with maria, she was like a sister to him
That was way better than I expected it to be. It actually gave me goosbumps. Great video!
I was watching a pic of Shadow and Maria and my friend said “oh it’s that black sonic with the little lady” and I be like 😑(curse you for that) 😂
Yo this video changed my view of everything in the franchise in a good way thank u soo much
Sometimes he's a good guy, sometimes he's a bad guy, sometimes...
HE'S THE GUY.
I just realized something......eggman doesn't even show up at all in Sonic and the black knight. Guess eggman can't always be the villain!
Since when did Sonic use Chaos Control before SA2? Like, at all?
Chaos Control wasn't even a thing until SA2.
Sonic always used the Chaos Emeralds to turn Super Sonic.
Am pretty sure Sonic has some knowledge using Chaos Abilities before.
This also strangely and accurately portrays the relationship with Sora and Riku...
Coincidence?!
*I think not!*
“There is no relationship between these two”
Tell that to the Sonadow part of the Sonic the Hedgehog fandom my dude
This probably one of my favorite Treesicle videos. Good job!
this one was amazing, not gonna lie
Wow, that is deep, I must say that's great! I mean when you think about it, you're completely right about the relationship, I think this is why everyone is always so hooked on these episodes because of shadow, because he is in a sense more like us than we realize, a shadow of our pasts, I mean it would be no fun if the HERO always won, if the hero was always there, there would be no point because it would be like any other story we've ever had to watch/play.... I never thought of it this way, but truly, you are right.
Talk about the relationship between Shadow and Mephiles.
Damn right, we need a video on that
I remember i watched a sonic video of yours before you had all these new ones. So congratulations for making it so far in the last year or two.
2:45 I don't mean to be a grammar troll, but I'd like to point this out before the true grammar trolls have a chance. The terms protagonist and antagonist don't actually have any light/dark/good/evil affiliations. Protagonist refers to any character that is the main character of the story, and antagonist refers to whatever person/thing/group is apposing the protagonist.
Josh Parnell sorry to be a grammar nazi on a grammar post, but it's *oppposing
The Red Right Hand Productions Haha, I knew some fool would fall for my grammar trap, now you shall be locked in my grammar concentration camp forever!
*AND NOW I PLAY POT OF GREED!*
*i wonder what it does...*
Josh Parnell Basically what ur trying to say is that "It all depends... On a certain point of view."
We like to think our modern day heroes are perfect yet they kill often
Which confuses me why people complain about Batman killing
Yeah, soldiers and cops do it too... Duh...
+kai // neko
We may never know...
I saw this video, then i saw an comic Dub where Shadow helps Sonic finally date Amy, and its just impressive how this video is right and i love it
He has a point with this video. Remember when Chris got hurt in Sonic X? Sonic went dark and straight murdered those two alien robots and eggman says "calm yourself sonic... you remind me of a certain black hedgehog." Right there is a perfect example of this. Sonic had felt loss in that moment and went berserk!
This was great, really enjoyed this one. I never thought to often about how Sonic would be more like Shadow if he lost his comrades. However, there's a bit of misinformation i'd like to point out. In the vid it was said that Sonic knew how to use chaos control before Shadow, which is false. Shadow existed 50 years before Sonic, and involuntarily showed Sonic how to utilize chaos control. Also, Sonic and the others don't use chaos control to go super.
What's with all these Shadow videos? I'm not arguing! Wonderful once again and I really enjoy the contrast you made. Never really thought of Shadow as someone who acts like does cause of loss. Keep it up Treesicle!
0:23
Um excuse me, but I'll have you know my Sonadow fanfiction says otherwise >:(
I love how you take apart relationships on this channel. Could you try to analyze Otacon and Solid Snakes's relationship in the Metal Gear Solid franchise? It's very interesting and I am not sure where it exactly falls under.
that video shows us how dark the sonic universe can be. with the death of maria and what what happens if sonic loses someone AND why sonic isnt in love with someone. very nice video daaaaamn
5:36
*"Only character at this point in the series that could use Chaos Control was Sonic"*
Knuckles:Well f**k you too.
Super Sonic Duo Knux can't do chaos control
This is actually a REALLY GOOD video
To be honest I'm starting to turn in to a Shadow of my cousin, back in elementary school we were the same and over time closer to High school he has made many friends and I practically lost all of mine
Wow, this video felt really deep and well done. It really makes me see Shadow's appearance in a different way. Well, done. Great video.
"Shadow exposes sonic's true despair"
talks about how shadow is in despair
So Shadow The Hedgehog is a Shadow of Sonic The Hedgehog all because of loosing someone that he loved? Okay I get it now, Good video Grant, seriously awesome job, bro!
Following this, I really want a game where Sonic loses someone -- like an actual character, like tails or knuckles, just DIES. I really want to see how it would turn out -- him trying to keep on his brave face, trying to act like it doesn't matter and he just keeps moving on, keeps going forward, running around at the speed of sound... But just shatters and breaks down and ends up being unable to do anything.
Well he did kinda kill his own "son" at the end of battle and after this play the strong one for Tails, Cream and Amy that without a strong shoulder to cry on most likely wouldn't have taken it to well.
"So let's hedge some hog" I laughed way harder at that than I should've xD
I view this as classic anime relationships.... We have seen this tale told time and time again, best example is Dragon Ball, where rivals become friends. Goku and Yamcha, Picolo, Vegeta, Beirus...they all still hold some kind of grudge, but put their feelings aside recognizing he is necessary for the greater good.
This video was mad deep plus the music made it more realistic and dark. I liked it
I'd love to see a shadow the hedgehog 2 game. And I really like shadows back story he's the only one to have a interesting and tragic one. Yeah he was normal and happy and full of wounded and curiosity before Maria died
"There is no love between sonic and shadow"
*Dark side of the internet:* Hold my beer
He didn't watch Sonadow.
Shadow the edge hog
that's what makes him cool. Some people relate to Shadow more than Sonic
Mind Blown! You really used psychology well in this video. Great video guys!
I still ship Sonadow, no matter what people say
Yes 😁👍
YAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSS
why did i even bother to scroll down in the deep of these comments?
So basically Sonic is Goku and Shadow is Vegeta and if you wanted to get really technical Amy is chi chi and silver is trunks but we don't got time for that
super Saiyan training ground super Saiyan and super sonic🤔
Have been saying this for years haha I mean come on, Silver and his spikes look identical to future Trunks when they turn super ffs. And that last battle in 06, shit reminded me of super Goku, Vegeta and Trunks vs Brolly
super Saiyan training ground well not exactly cause Goku married chichi while sonic doesn't allow himself to get attached and Sliver has the same premise I'll give you that but yeah
İS SİLVER SHADOWS SON?
@@narasihirara5487 no
I love Shadow the Hedgehog so much! I'm glad you keep doing videos on him :) I wish Sega made more games for Shadow!
Thank u
Good video! Maybe a relationship between knuckles and sonic or rouge next?
Hey treesicle i love your vids even though you ruin my childhood
"There is no love between sonic and shadow"...unless you ship sonadow... 😑😒*cough cough* me *cough cough*
kinda messed up considering sonic is 15 and shadow is 50
When you realize SEGA needs to make this cannon
That was deep as FRICK
so basicly shadow is a confused memory wraped hedgehog version of vegeta ( is what im seeing )
Yes shadow is that
Technically Maria wasn't the only character shadow cared for, take Sonic 06 for an example, he caught rouge from hitting the ground rather than saving the scepter that contained mephilis, shadow cares for rouge and the whole planet(mostly because maria loved the planet)
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The Theorizer hi btw I love your videos
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Love the last part/main point. Glad someone else shares this view of their relationship.
2:01 That’s my Sonic vs Shadow video I posted 3 years ago Lol
you guys making me so friggin happy doing shadow stories never knew. i love shadow and he nevee gets enough attention through sega
Silver The Story you never knew
We've known Silver's story since the Android Saga of DBZ
Silvers still a mystery
my gripes:
1. shadow was the one who *introduced* chaos control to the series. going super isn't using chaos control.
2. knuckles was sonic's "rival" at first, even being related to the free-flowing wind and the stern mountain because of their roles. hell, knuckles is canonically as strong as sonic is fast. granted, shadow does the job better now.
3. the shadow the hedgehog manual stated that shadow and maria had a sibling relationship, not a romantic one
So Shadow is basically Vegeta?
BKOOL999 not exactly. The rivalry aspect is like vegeta sure, but vegeta is nothing more than a rival. He has no deeper meaning like shadow does.
Voice and all
9:08 At this point I was mindblown and subscribed
Could you do a video theorizing why Shadow may be a villain in the new Sonic Forces trailer?
Obi-Wan Kenobi he can't, as shadow had little role in forces so.. ya, not happening
you know my first theory was that shadow was possesed cuz he wouldn't be evil just like that unless he really has to.
No need now
that was a clone
(i know that when you writed this there wasn't such information)
Ariana Aguilar Cortes I guess it was a faker
Hoooold it on the first argument: Sonic couldn't use Chaos Control until about ¾ of the storyline in SA2. He kind of learned it from Shadow. Going super and using Chaos Control are two completely different things.
3:56 My first guess is his Inhibitor Rings!
That was an amazing video and theory, great work
"How would you describe Sonic and Shadow's relationship?"
Me: *immediately starts thinking about Goku and Vegeta, and Naruto and Sasuke*
Also me: Hmm...idk
Violet and Corky? Max and Chloe?
This was a great video. I really enjoyed it.
welp
time to write some eDGY FANFICTION!
Damn,That Was Deep. Gotta Give Ya Credit On This One,Guys. Good Job.
shadow the *edge* hog
Thank you! This was amazing.