How much for a Triumph Valve Check!!!😮😮😮😮 I do my own maintenance... it's 1500km to nearest "stealership"... If you can't check valve gaps on a recent Bonnie or any other similar engine... then maybe you shouldn't have a bike ??? THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF OWNING A M/C 😊
Freddie, finally took the plunge before my health fails too badly and bought a used 883 sportster, a few reasons why I bought the 883, it is low & light, great as my legs and back are knackered and getting worse. Plenty of grunt for todays rds with all the speed cameras and police cameras. Also because of HOG, plenty of ride outs with like minded people. So glad I took the plunge beofe it is to late. She is a 2004 , so carb model with rubber mount ! perfect ! Love the show every Tuesday , keep up the great work!
Make sure she doesn't have the river did together clutch plate in your clutch and if you do have it replace it so it doesn't bother up your clutch when it lets go. Change the oil and filters regularly in your engine will last 25 years like mine. Sportsters are a great bike.
Freddie, Monica, marvelous videos, would love to see a trip to Matlock Baths on any Sunday - hundreds of varied motorbikes with riders enjoying local beverages - youtube gold.
You can't compare the reliability the Ducati with an airhead 1200GS. The BMW isn't run in until 30K and 150+K isn't unheard of. You can also service it yourself.
Freddie, come on man. 10k for a Chinese bike. I can buy a Used Harley heritage softail with low mikes for 6k. And a used Enfield for 3k. And 1k leftover for beer 🍺
Chinese bikes have come a long way. I am old enough to recall that Jap crap and look at the market in the last 6 decades nearly all Japanese. The tooling used in Chinese manufacturing is US German UK supplied ths last company i worked for made top end precision tools a massive market for them in China. I have a Chinese 125 and its brilliant can't fault the quality .
that Morbidelli has been out for several months and is sold as an MBP, the parent company recently acquired the Morbidelli name, MBP is part of the Keeway group which is part of the same group that owns Benelli, part of the Qianjiang group which is owned by Geely, in other words it is part of a massive, well funded group that sells huge quantities of bikes and cars so the bike should be well made and work, we are now getting bikes designed to work and be up to the expected standards to sell outside of Asia, i.e Europe and the US, like it or not they are coming and they have huge amounts of cash to invest in development and build and the better ones are already up to Japanese standards
There's also Moto Morini, previously Italian, now owned by the Chinese Znen Group. After being resurrected as a Chinese company, they had a few v-twin models, strangely similar to Ducatis, specially Monsters, but also based on their Italian heritage models. Now they seem to only have a parallel twin line-up with bagger, cruiser and adventure bikes.
A great episode as always freddie! I have a possible fun topic of conversation as far as challenges go. The iron butt challege (1000 miles in 24 hours). I was hoping I could get a few veteran riders to share expereinces about it. My best feat was a two stop ride from stirling to bristol over around 7hrs covering 400 miles. The prospect of doing that two more times was terrifying.
I think bike prices are getting closer to what they should be which means second hand will go even lower. I guess that can't be bad news for new riders just for people trying to sell
I was at the Helsinki motorcycle show at the beginning of the year they had the MBP and Benelli line of bikes, they were actually cool looking bikes, I didn't get the little "Lego" lion on the front mudguard of the Benelli's I'm sure on the next version they will get rid of it. (they could have gone with a sticker or embost into the mudguard).
Hi Freddie, Bike discounts: could it be the poor weather that is forcing these discounts? We are well into the riding season and the weather in the UK to date has been rubbish. I appreciate that we are in a cost of living crisis but, could the poor weather be part of the problem?
I own a Ducati Scrambler Sxty2, lovely little bike that's just covered 3,250 miles in it's 8 years, I'm a fair weather rider so it may sit for a few weeks or a month in the garage waiting for the right weather but always starts straight away on the button, all I do is change the oil and filter annually, needs no fancy valve adjustments till I think it's over 10k miles so chances are I'll never do it, changing the belts is easy as there's plenty of 'how to do it' videos on TH-cam and if it should ever get a serious problem then there's always Jim to turn to for help.
The Ducati service intervals are a little misleading. Sure the shimming on the new super hard valves only needs working on in twice the normal distance and with twice the number of shims on the desmo system kind of evens things out. But such long distances between oil changes I think is asking for trouble. My Hyper would have oil changes every 3000kms (my old bevel 900SS would require shims as well). Clean oil kept clean has been my best strategy for a happy engine.
Ducati's 1200/1260 Diavel is an epick motorcycle. I was looking at one until I learned how much the big services cost. I do over 12K miles per year. So I would be looking at a big service (all 3 engine belts need to be replaced) over a 1000 pounds at a dealer or over 700 pounds at a Ducati specialist. The back tyre is a big 240 section one and with a torquey engine they don't last long. And they ain't cheap. If You don't do many miles like I per year a Diavel I a superb motorcycle. But because I like to ride a lot I went with a Moto Guzzi Audace 1400. Yes it is 50kg+ heavier then the Ducati and it has less power but has more charter and enough ground clearance to make an ex 1000cc sport bike rider happy on the road.
hi freddy you could try oakley motorcycles in maidstone kent ,they have a demo model ,having ridden it i found it to to be a realy nice ride ,realy worthaa look
I think the weather must be really affecting bike sales this year in Uk , here in East Scotland we have had rain and clouds for months. I think it is same over most of uk. I still go out on the bike whenever I can though and all through winter just suck it up best as can 😂I love to go out and feel so much better after a ride but a bit of sun would be nice !
Freddie thanks for mentioning my comments on my BSA GoldStar, i bought this bike because back in the day I had a BSA 650 Road Rocket which i loved. With the way this new BSA company is dealing with its customers they are taking us for fool's and i will never buy a BSA again nomatter what new models they come out with.
Freddie are they ( say 2023 platted models ) they often do this , to my knowledge Ducati does not drop previous model prices “ so the dealer may take the hit in the pocket “
Keeway bikes are branded Benda in china are making some incredibly good looking bikes not many of which are available in Europe yet, check out the Benda Napoleon Bob 250 & 450, very good looking.
Hi Mr dobbs Eddy's in Tadcaster they are selling there BSA off at thousand pounds off beacuse off the euro 6 coming in to force and that was from the mechanic how works there I bumped in to him at squires biker cafe the week
Hello Freddie, Amazing episode as always ! I have been following you for couple of years now and finally decided to get my motorcycle license thanks to you. I am now looking for my first purchase (A2 licence so max 47 horsepower bike or bridled bike). I’d like some advice from you and the community on this, with the current state of the market : is it better to look for a brand new bike and invest more money in it (like the new speed 400, eliminator 500 or RE interceptor) or look at used cheaper bikes from early 2000 (to keep with all those low emission zone) with the risk of Having troubles with reliability/maintenance ? Have a nice day/evening all Etienne from France
I noticed the other day that Mazda are doing 0% interest on the MX-5. Now this is standard offerings in the quiet winter months, certainly not during peak top down driving season. The car and bike markets must be in serious pain to be throwing these bargains about like this. Can’t imagine how this is affecting the used market.
Yup, the used market is nuts. Owners feel their "customised baby" is worth more than they ever invested! ... if it's so good, why selling? Simply go to a dealer and for valuation. That'll bring you back to earth!
£1000 service is a lot when you might do 15k miles every two years. valves on my tracer are £500 every 24K miles, and with a lot of bikes you can do every other valve service and have no issues. Think of the extra bikes you could buy with that desmo money!
im weird: this is personally one of my favorite videos from you fr i love people digging into their opinions intellectually, but maybe have the script just behind the camera so youre looking at the camera more? I dont care but I hear when I make videos for my other channels that eye contact with the camera draws people in :)
Regarding BSA pricing drop, there is now no worthwhile profit margin for the dealer, it cant be worth the dealer selling new BSAs unless the manufacturer is giving them an incentive to clear old stock. I’m not surprised that dealers are dropping the franchise.
what did you think of R1300gsa? I am convinced BMW have lost the plot and believe the ultimate Adv bike would be an R1800gsa. They have the motor afterall. I still have 5 bmw gs bikes (and 9 bmws overall in the collection but love to ride my Aprilia Tuareg 660 way more
Since 2012 Ducati is part of the Volkswagen Brand portfolio directly controlled by Audi. Ducati has been getting progressively more reliable from this time. On behalf of the Chinese Communist Party, the People's Republic of China authoritarian one-party state would like to thank you for your promotional support.
My homework is to track Ducati performance in Moto GP and SBK for before and after VAG takeover. Should be interesting. My feeling is that they have been more successful since the acquisition.
Be aware that CFMOTO with price drop is the SPORT model not the Touring that costs over £9000 and then you have the top specs Explore just shy os £12000
Moaning about bsa and other brands lowering their prices after a year or two is a bit unfair. Anything new and cool is bound to be a premium to start with, think phones, tv's and even new books from best selling authors. If you cant wait a year or so and have to get the newest toy on the market and ride around feeling fantastic , then that is what you have paid that premium for, the privilage to ride gorgeous bikes before many other people can buy them. Obviously if you bought a bsa a week before they dropped the price then yes, i understand that frustration. Thank you Freddie, your channel is brilliant
Please please please get yourself a test ride on the new multistrada Grand Tour. And let me know when you have stopped smiling.. I bought the 2024 model and picked it up on 1st March. Now over 2238 miles . Use it everyday, I'm 62 next month and I've ride bikes since I was 16. It's the best bike I have ever owned. Try it please.
Yes ! Only the insurance company wins. We have to have insurance by law and they make us pay for all their other losses. Yes , I have suffered their 5 year policy loading for having my bike nicked and yes , I did end up paying for the lost bike through increased premium. I didn’t have a claim for many years and still my insurance cost the same as a weeks wages……. even with the no claims bonus which obviously I didn’t have when I first got insured. I have had one claim in 49 years of riding. Insurance is just a legally backed con.
I’d rather the Japanese buy these Italian brands. If nothing else, the clash between Japanese sensibilities and Italian extravagance would be funny as heck to watch unfold. In fact, I’d watch a movie about it.😅
dude just cancel youre theft insurance after they pay out and fix it yourself, then get a different insurance company to insure your bike after its fixed. thats what I did and my new insurance has more coverage than pre-theft and am paying less per month :)
regards price drops, it happens - i encountered it in 1999 with the superbikes in the UK - i paid close to 9k for my kawi 7r and 6 weeks later they dropped by 3k (iirc this was all manufacturers for some odd reason, possibly gvt related) - i initially felt cheated and supremely annoyed with the dealer who never mentioned it (of course, they make extra 3k so why would they) but then thought to myself, well there is nothing i can do and it was worth what i paid when i paid, so that is that - sure it sucks hard if you wish to sell the bike a year later but hey that is on you as a buyer - shi7 happens, ride on - as for Chinese bikes, brilliant news for the good manufacturers coming from there and great news for buyers 🙂 CF moto doing a 3k drop says they must really need to sell the sport version as the touring is still over 9k new and the explore is about 12k - i have yet to see bad reports from owners with many of them in high mileage and some i am seeing riding over 15k miles in less than a year trouble free
Wow… I didn’t think those over inflated prices (ex Covid) would last 🤔 Its all a matter of perspective I guess, as always something is only ever worth what someone is prepared to pay. It looks like the market is having to adjust to what someone is prepared to pay 🤔
You're as ignorant as the people that said they would never buy a Japanese bike when Honda and the other brands entered Europe. Look at how those numbskulls were wrong 🤙
If we are not buying bikes at the rate manufacturers expect, it is only common sense they will reduce the costs or offer contributions, chinese or not. We are spoilt and desire the next best thing, like a 16 year old switching girlfriends on a monthly basis. I am not rich, but if my bike depreciated at a large rate after a couple of years, it would only encourage me to keep it longer. We need to stop moaning and see the positive in the situations that arise in life. Whatever happened to just buying a bike to enjoy the experience, not worrying about residual values and cherishing it until it broke down at 100,000 miles, then going to get a new one after 5-10 years? Clearly, these days are gone. The manufacturers smell the money we dont have to spend, taking out bank loans, pcp, hp and know we will make emotional, impulse purchases and it's our own fault. We shagged the market, so stop flipping moaning people, deal with it by making more conscious/sensible decisions and not buying bikes every year to impress your mates. They don't have to live on beans on toast for the rest of the year, you do. I have had a few bikes over the last few years old and new and it's made me realise that I prefer riding older bikes (late 90's early to mid 2000's) as they are still damn good fun and don't break the bank. I don't want to pay over a thousand pounds for a service, that to me is just a p*** take. I can afford it but, I would rather spend my money on other experiences or enjoying multiple bikes, maximising my riding experiences. I wouldn't buy an expensive sports car for the same reason. I stay well within my budget and ride with the widest smiles in the world simply because I just love to ride. Anyway rant over. Lol Keep up the good work and god bless. 👍🏿
Retired expat living in Thailand. Theres s Thai brand mcycle, GPX, here. The motors are made in China, assembled in Tland. GPX also makes (assembles?) Royal Enfield bikes here. I had a GPX 250cc. It was great, no problems. Ive also seen some of those small Keeway bikes. Supposedly ok. Chinese cars popular here. I think their technology and build qiality ok. They have the best EV cars in the world.
9:50 it's not as complex as you make it sound, bottom line irregardless of company name it's a Chinese made bike trying to leverage an Italian name, it's that simple 🤷🏻♂️ there are quite a few reviews on TH-cam, just look 👀
Please stop promoting Chinese owned motorcycle companies. These are not the reviews I want to see. I accept that sooner or later I'll have nothing left to see😢
Sitting down with a Chateauxneuf-du-Pape to watch this, thanks Freddie!
How much for a Triumph Valve Check!!!😮😮😮😮
I do my own maintenance... it's 1500km to nearest "stealership"...
If you can't check valve gaps on a recent Bonnie or any other similar engine... then maybe you shouldn't have a bike ???
THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF OWNING A M/C 😊
Freddie, finally took the plunge before my health fails too badly and bought a used 883 sportster, a few reasons why I bought the 883, it is low & light, great as my legs and back are knackered and getting worse. Plenty of grunt for todays rds with all the speed cameras and police cameras. Also because of HOG, plenty of ride outs with like minded people. So glad I took the plunge beofe it is to late.
She is a 2004 , so carb model with rubber mount ! perfect ! Love the show every Tuesday , keep up the great work!
Make sure she doesn't have the river did together clutch plate in your clutch and if you do have it replace it so it doesn't bother up your clutch when it lets go. Change the oil and filters regularly in your engine will last 25 years like mine. Sportsters are a great bike.
Freddie, Monica, marvelous videos, would love to see a trip to Matlock Baths on any Sunday - hundreds of varied motorbikes with riders enjoying local beverages - youtube gold.
That Nepal trip on that Royal Enfield is amazing.
😃
Sitting down with a beer to watch this, thanks Freddie!
You can't compare the reliability the Ducati with an airhead 1200GS. The BMW isn't run in until 30K and 150+K isn't unheard of. You can also service it yourself.
Thanks as usual Freddie for your time & entertainment for us 👊
Sitting down with a cuppa Yorkshire tea to watch this one. Thanks Freddie 😀
Freddie, come on man. 10k for a Chinese bike. I can buy a Used Harley heritage softail with low mikes for 6k. And a used Enfield for 3k. And 1k leftover for beer 🍺
@@stevezahn8056 yeah I'd agree, when you get to double figures for a Chinese made bike maybe it's time to sit down and reflect 😊
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Chinese bikes have come a long way. I am old enough to recall that Jap crap and look at the market in the last 6 decades nearly all Japanese. The tooling used in Chinese manufacturing is US German UK supplied ths last company i worked for made top end precision tools a massive market for them in China. I have a Chinese 125 and its brilliant can't fault the quality .
Sitting down with pomegranate cordial to watch this. Fanx Freddie!
every tuesday is the best day of the week now ❤️
that Morbidelli has been out for several months and is sold as an MBP, the parent company recently acquired the Morbidelli name, MBP is part of the Keeway group which is part of the same group that owns Benelli, part of the Qianjiang group which is owned by Geely, in other words it is part of a massive, well funded group that sells huge quantities of bikes and cars so the bike should be well made and work, we are now getting bikes designed to work and be up to the expected standards to sell outside of Asia, i.e Europe and the US, like it or not they are coming and they have huge amounts of cash to invest in development and build and the better ones are already up to Japanese standards
There's also Moto Morini, previously Italian, now owned by the Chinese Znen Group. After being resurrected as a Chinese company, they had a few v-twin models, strangely similar to Ducatis, specially Monsters, but also based on their Italian heritage models. Now they seem to only have a parallel twin line-up with bagger, cruiser and adventure bikes.
Thanks Freddie. Good stuff as usual.
A great episode as always freddie! I have a possible fun topic of conversation as far as challenges go. The iron butt challege (1000 miles in 24 hours). I was hoping I could get a few veteran riders to share expereinces about it. My best feat was a two stop ride from stirling to bristol over around 7hrs covering 400 miles. The prospect of doing that two more times was terrifying.
The sweet sound on that intro shot 😍
I think bike prices are getting closer to what they should be which means second hand will go even lower. I guess that can't be bad news for new riders just for people trying to sell
I was at the Helsinki motorcycle show at the beginning of the year they had the MBP and Benelli line of bikes, they were actually cool looking bikes, I didn't get the little "Lego" lion on the front mudguard of the Benelli's I'm sure on the next version they will get rid of it. (they could have gone with a sticker or embost into the mudguard).
Great settee. See you next Tuesday.
Hi Freddie, Bike discounts: could it be the poor weather that is forcing these discounts? We are well into the riding season and the weather in the UK to date has been rubbish. I appreciate that we are in a cost of living crisis but, could the poor weather be part of the problem?
I own a Ducati Scrambler Sxty2, lovely little bike that's just covered 3,250 miles in it's 8 years, I'm a fair weather rider so it may sit for a few weeks or a month in the garage waiting for the right weather but always starts straight away on the button, all I do is change the oil and filter annually, needs no fancy valve adjustments till I think it's over 10k miles so chances are I'll never do it, changing the belts is easy as there's plenty of 'how to do it' videos on TH-cam and if it should ever get a serious problem then there's always Jim to turn to for help.
The Ducati service intervals are a little misleading. Sure the shimming on the new super hard valves only needs working on in twice the normal distance and with twice the number of shims on the desmo system kind of evens things out. But such long distances between oil changes I think is asking for trouble. My Hyper would have oil changes every 3000kms (my old bevel 900SS would require shims as well). Clean oil kept clean has been my best strategy for a happy engine.
Ducati's 1200/1260 Diavel is an epick motorcycle. I was looking at one until I learned how much the big services cost. I do over 12K miles per year. So I would be looking at a big service (all 3 engine belts need to be replaced) over a 1000 pounds at a dealer or over 700 pounds at a Ducati specialist. The back tyre is a big 240 section one and with a torquey engine they don't last long. And they ain't cheap. If You don't do many miles like I per year a Diavel I a superb motorcycle. But because I like to ride a lot I went with a Moto Guzzi Audace 1400. Yes it is 50kg+ heavier then the Ducati and it has less power but has more charter and enough ground clearance to make an ex 1000cc sport bike rider happy on the road.
morbidelli made a 125cc racer ...the Australian 125 champion years back rode one - saw it at Bathurst, it was really fast...
hi freddy you could try oakley motorcycles in maidstone kent ,they have a demo model ,having ridden it i found it to to be a realy nice ride ,realy worthaa look
I think the weather must be really affecting bike sales this year in Uk , here in East Scotland we have had rain and clouds for months. I think it is same over most of uk. I still go out on the bike whenever I can though and all through winter just suck it up best as can 😂I love to go out and feel so much better after a ride but a bit of sun would be nice !
Freddie thanks for mentioning my comments on my BSA GoldStar, i bought this bike because back in the day I had a BSA 650 Road Rocket which i loved. With the way this new BSA company is dealing with its customers they are taking us for fool's and i will never buy a BSA again nomatter what new models they come out with.
If they actually do come up with another model, it's been pretty quiet on that front where BSA are concerned 🤔
The local dealer i bought my GoldStar from in March 23 has stopped selling their bikes because BSA messed them a out. Not a good look, is it.
Freddie are they ( say 2023 platted models ) they often do this , to my knowledge Ducati does not drop previous model prices “ so the dealer may take the hit in the pocket “
So manufacturers aren’t allowed to reduce prices because it’s unfair ?????? ……. Hope insurance doesn’t go down or else there will be hell up 😂😂😂
Keeway bikes are branded Benda in china are making some incredibly good looking bikes not many of which are available in Europe yet, check out the Benda Napoleon Bob 250 & 450, very good looking.
had a go on morbidelli v1000 at the abr fuelling suspension and brakes need upgrade possible cost £4000
Sitting down with a brew to watch this :-), I bet the Chateauxneuf-du-Pape gentleman has a nice bike!.
Moto Guzzi are better for long distance 😊
Hi Mr dobbs Eddy's in Tadcaster they are selling there BSA off at thousand pounds off beacuse off the euro 6 coming in to force and that was from the mechanic how works there I bumped in to him at squires biker cafe the week
Hello Freddie,
Amazing episode as always ! I have been following you for couple of years now and finally decided to get my motorcycle license thanks to you. I am now looking for my first purchase (A2 licence so max 47 horsepower bike or bridled bike). I’d like some advice from you and the community on this, with the current state of the market : is it better to look for a brand new bike and invest more money in it (like the new speed 400, eliminator 500 or RE interceptor) or look at used cheaper bikes from early 2000 (to keep with all those low emission zone) with the risk of Having troubles with reliability/maintenance ?
Have a nice day/evening all
Etienne from France
I noticed the other day that Mazda are doing 0% interest on the MX-5. Now this is standard offerings in the quiet winter months, certainly not during peak top down driving season. The car and bike markets must be in serious pain to be throwing these bargains about like this. Can’t imagine how this is affecting the used market.
loads of these 0% deals are with a 50% deposit however - it's because cars depreciate so massively post-covid.
Yup, the used market is nuts. Owners feel their "customised baby" is worth more than they ever invested! ... if it's so good, why selling?
Simply go to a dealer and for valuation. That'll bring you back to earth!
Having watched this so glad I bought a year old v strom privately. Wont touch non Japanese thanks
£1000 service is a lot when you might do 15k miles every two years. valves on my tracer are £500 every 24K miles, and with a lot of bikes you can do every other valve service and have no issues. Think of the extra bikes you could buy with that desmo money!
im weird: this is personally one of my favorite videos from you fr i love people digging into their opinions intellectually, but maybe have the script just behind the camera so youre looking at the camera more? I dont care but I hear when I make videos for my other channels that eye contact with the camera draws people in :)
Hmmm, this is a very interesting point. I’ll genuinely consider some options for this. Thank you:)
Regarding BSA pricing drop, there is now no worthwhile profit margin for the dealer, it cant be worth the dealer selling new BSAs unless the manufacturer is giving them an incentive to clear old stock. I’m not surprised that dealers are dropping the franchise.
what did you think of R1300gsa? I am convinced BMW have lost the plot and believe the ultimate Adv bike would be an R1800gsa. They have the motor afterall. I still have 5 bmw gs bikes (and 9 bmws overall in the collection but love to ride my Aprilia Tuareg 660 way more
Since 2012 Ducati is part of the Volkswagen Brand portfolio directly controlled by Audi. Ducati has been getting progressively more reliable from this time. On behalf of the Chinese Communist Party, the People's Republic of China authoritarian one-party state would like to thank you for your promotional support.
Another idiot.
My homework is to track Ducati performance in Moto GP and SBK for before and after VAG takeover. Should be interesting. My feeling is that they have been more successful since the acquisition.
@@EllenBeeBoutique has nothing to do with Audi. It's Dall'igna
@@brucesnyder690 Thanks
BSA might be appealing to a englishmen but for the rest I think RE is more sensibel option
Lets hope that with all the money saved they bought better gear, good helmet good gloves and so on. What do you think.
Be aware that CFMOTO with price drop is the SPORT model not the Touring that costs over £9000 and then you have the top specs Explore just shy os £12000
Multi Strada service costs are ridiculous, almost proposterous 😂 avoid avoid
Moaning about bsa and other brands lowering their prices after a year or two is a bit unfair. Anything new and cool is bound to be a premium to start with, think phones, tv's and even new books from best selling authors. If you cant wait a year or so and have to get the newest toy on the market and ride around feeling fantastic , then that is what you have paid that premium for, the privilage to ride gorgeous bikes before many other people can buy them. Obviously if you bought a bsa a week before they dropped the price then yes, i understand that frustration.
Thank you Freddie, your channel is brilliant
Please please please get yourself a test ride on the new multistrada Grand Tour. And let me know when you have stopped smiling.. I bought the 2024 model and picked it up on 1st March. Now over 2238 miles . Use it everyday, I'm 62 next month and I've ride bikes since I was 16. It's the best bike I have ever owned. Try it please.
Morbadeli Cool bike¡
Yes ! Only the insurance company wins. We have to have insurance by law and they make us pay for all their other losses. Yes , I have suffered their 5 year policy loading for having my bike nicked and yes , I did end up paying for the lost bike through increased premium. I didn’t have a claim for many years and still my insurance cost the same as a weeks wages……. even with the no claims bonus which obviously I didn’t have when I first got insured. I have had one claim in 49 years of riding. Insurance is just a legally backed con.
3rd party as cheap as poss and just save the difference to buy another bike when you bin it!
Freddie, Regarding CF Moto, read the owner reviews😂
Freddie - What do you think of Keanu Reeve's ARCH motorcycle brand? - discuss.
I’d rather the Japanese buy these Italian brands. If nothing else, the clash between Japanese sensibilities and Italian extravagance would be funny as heck to watch unfold. In fact, I’d watch a movie about it.😅
dude just cancel youre theft insurance after they pay out and fix it yourself, then get a different insurance company to insure your bike after its fixed. thats what I did and my new insurance has more coverage than pre-theft and am paying less per month :)
regards price drops, it happens - i encountered it in 1999 with the superbikes in the UK - i paid close to 9k for my kawi 7r and 6 weeks later they dropped by 3k (iirc this was all manufacturers for some odd reason, possibly gvt related) - i initially felt cheated and supremely annoyed with the dealer who never mentioned it (of course, they make extra 3k so why would they) but then thought to myself, well there is nothing i can do and it was worth what i paid when i paid, so that is that - sure it sucks hard if you wish to sell the bike a year later but hey that is on you as a buyer - shi7 happens, ride on - as for Chinese bikes, brilliant news for the good manufacturers coming from there and great news for buyers 🙂 CF moto doing a 3k drop says they must really need to sell the sport version as the touring is still over 9k new and the explore is about 12k - i have yet to see bad reports from owners with many of them in high mileage and some i am seeing riding over 15k miles in less than a year trouble free
All they have done is re-badge a Chinese bike that was previously called MBP C1002V in the UK.
Today I bought a CFMoto 700cl-x Adventure, new for £4,999 down from £6299. There are crazy good discounts all over the market at the moment.
Wow…it’s time to grab a bargain…these prices won’t last
I think they will keep coming down. Know one has any money.
Wow… I didn’t think those over inflated prices (ex Covid) would last 🤔 Its all a matter of perspective I guess, as always something is only ever worth what someone is prepared to pay. It looks like the market is having to adjust to what someone is prepared to pay 🤔
i defo would not buy Chinese.
You're as ignorant as the people that said they would never buy a Japanese bike when Honda and the other brands entered Europe.
Look at how those numbskulls were wrong 🤙
If we are not buying bikes at the rate manufacturers expect, it is only common sense they will reduce the costs or offer contributions, chinese or not. We are spoilt and desire the next best thing, like a 16 year old switching girlfriends on a monthly basis.
I am not rich, but if my bike depreciated at a large rate after a couple of years, it would only encourage me to keep it longer. We need to stop moaning and see the positive in the situations that arise in life.
Whatever happened to just buying a bike to enjoy the experience, not worrying about residual values and cherishing it until it broke down at 100,000 miles, then going to get a new one after 5-10 years?
Clearly, these days are gone. The manufacturers smell the money we dont have to spend, taking out bank loans, pcp, hp and know we will make emotional, impulse purchases and it's our own fault. We shagged the market, so stop flipping moaning people, deal with it by making more conscious/sensible decisions and not buying bikes every year to impress your mates. They don't have to live on beans on toast for the rest of the year, you do.
I have had a few bikes over the last few years old and new and it's made me realise that I prefer riding older bikes (late 90's early to mid 2000's) as they are still damn good fun and don't break the bank. I don't want to pay over a thousand pounds for a service, that to me is just a p*** take. I can afford it but, I would rather spend my money on other experiences or enjoying multiple bikes, maximising my riding experiences. I wouldn't buy an expensive sports car for the same reason. I stay well within my budget and ride with the widest smiles in the world simply because I just love to ride.
Anyway rant over. Lol
Keep up the good work and god bless. 👍🏿
Beans on toast?
Luxury!
A kawi versys 1000 is a strong contender to the ducati
Yes, it's a nice looking bike, but will you be able to get parts in two years Time? We will see. No thanks.
Morbidelli also produced possibly the ugliest motorcycle ever. Google the Morbidelli V8.
Now you must understand the realities of life: Insurance is and will be legalized fraud!....;)
I could agree more
Retired expat living in Thailand.
Theres s Thai brand mcycle, GPX, here. The motors are made in China, assembled in Tland. GPX also makes (assembles?) Royal Enfield bikes here.
I had a GPX 250cc. It was great, no problems. Ive also seen some of those small Keeway bikes. Supposedly ok.
Chinese cars popular here. I think their technology and build qiality ok. They have the best EV cars in the world.
The problem with keeway is that they rust heavily and prematurely, especially the superlight 125. Engines seem to be ok.
9:50 it's not as complex as you make it sound, bottom line irregardless of company name it's a Chinese made bike trying to leverage an Italian name, it's that simple 🤷🏻♂️ there are quite a few reviews on TH-cam, just look 👀
Please stop promoting Chinese owned motorcycle companies.
These are not the reviews I want to see.
I accept that sooner or later I'll have nothing left to see😢