I assumed the water sieve cleaned the germs too, so now my fresh water is full of germs! I wish they made it easier to clean the germs out of water geesh
Wheezeworts are the best source of radiation. For the materials study station, I set up a pip farm with 6 of them and added a few uranium doors. It produces 134 radbolts a cycle while only consuming the electricity necessary for the generator. (also includes automation to keep radbolts from hitting dupes, and to turn off the generator when the station is full)
Yep, wheezeworts are definitely the easiest early/mid game source of radbolts in my opinion, before transitioning to nuclear waste compression. This is part of the tutorial bite for radbolts.
One stupid easy method I used was to pump the p water into a chamber that surrounds the uranium nugget that spawns on most maps. It works remarkably well for as long as you don't mine that resource out.
Great videos! Hope that you will make a tutorial bites about automation one day. I find it quite complicated to use it efficiently which most of the newbie also experienced.
Hi, there is another way of doing it. If you make a box where the air on it is at 3,6kg, it makes the poluted water not produce polluted air. This add with clorine kills all existing germs(Must be all titles clorine touching water i think). It takes some time to kill it but it does. Try it ;) Ty for all your tutorials! GJ
ty very much i was looking for a way to clear germs ever since I've made an opsie of routing de poluted water strait into my fresh water tank, man when I saw all my colonists becoming sick that was ruff
My last couple games (both Spaced Out, so dunno how it is in vanilla) have had a small patch of uranium ore just outside the starting biome. I got the radioactive metal door purifier set up long before I had my first thimble reed seed, or a ladder to the surface. It's pretty convenient in the early game.
I always built a vertical set of tanks, with a mechanized airlock linking them together.. then id boil the water, and have a germ sensor set to open the door when the water was clean... now i wonder if there's any point of this at all.. as i can just have the dupes shower in their own filth repeatedly :P
Big fan of your videos. For this topic I'm already a bit advanced (personal weird focus...). At first I was really doubting the efficiency of this simple solution for chlorine room, since it does not avoid completely germs at the end of the line. I re-created it exactly on sandbox and ok. The dilution and timed chlorine exposure is enough after some times to prevent germs to reproduce (too few) on the final polluted water container. So we can indeed consider it germ free for long-term. BUT there are some limitations : it implies a constant flow of germy-polluted water. If one of those containers run out, the dilution does not work and it's over. You're not stressing enough IMO the interest of dilution for germs management. So this setup cannot handle all situations. You're not directly mentioning also the fact that pipes content is NOT cleaned by chlorine gas. The 2 other methods (heat or cold) are worth mentioning but nobody use it of course since it's really not efficient. It would have been interesting maybe to develop more on the chlorine solution. The simple method I prefer using is taking directly advantage of the liquid container's logic activation parameter. Two full containers as well like you. No door trick. But the first one is automated with let's say 40 low threshold and 70 high threshold, and it can activate only during a part of the cycle, a small part enough to get rid of potential excess water AND not as the same time germy-water is introduced (for safety). Limited automation as well but the difference is that it's absolutely germ-free. Not even 1 at the end. And more important, there no risk if the containers are running out of polluted water and start again. The system itself will wait for the dilution effect to take place before restarting. imgur.com/a/yvdTa2x I must precise It's very specialized for toilets.
Thanks for taking the time to add the detailed info! It sounds like you probably are more of an expert than I am in this topic, and to be honest I don't really do this myself because it really isn't necessary. Making these tutorials on topics that I'm not so familiar on is certainly trickier, and I always try and research thoroughly every topic, but to be honest I did struggle to find a lot of really useful designs on this. It did occur to me that the system may not be completely effective in all situation, but it worked as I tested it and it's a fine balance between testing absolutely everything (which would take ages) and testing enough to be sure it works. I hope at some point I might be able to remaster these to improve the audio quality, and if so I will include your input.
I wish they made water sanitization a more integrated and essential part of the game. It seems both strange and absolutely disgusting that duplicants can wash their hands and bathe in completely germ infested water without consequence 🤮
@@themythical7383 Actually, germs used to be a very big problem in early builds of ONI. Food Poisioning used to make you vomit randomly and SlimeLung was deadly if left untreated. They ended up nerfing germs a lot as time went by; mostly becase vomiting produced too much Polluted Water and ppl just started to use it as an easy way to get to Electrolyizer feed early and just let dupes stay sick all the time. Now THAT'S gross.
What I was always wondering since Noone writes about it... With food poisoning, they use the toilet twice as much, right? So the water produced by the toilet usage is 2x as much?? I always try to purposely get my dupes food poisoning. Or is my math off with this??
I just got the game and I am trying to use chlorine to kill germs in water in a tank I made that has Airflow tiles on the inside that touch the water. Will this work? Currently letting it run to see if it does anything but process is slow. Thank you to anyone that knows the answer.
This doesnt work for me. The only thing i did diffrent was that the polluted water comes straight from the toilets into reservoir, but the clorine room is the same. Is this why it isnt working?
As long as the reservoir is sat inside chlorine and the polluted water is in there long enough then it should work. Maybe it wasn't in there long enough?
@@GCFungus i think there might be a fundamental issue with it, when you do it like that when the door is closed and water is flowing new germy water is added to the system and you cant expect it to die while coming out so while there is less its not sanitised it just goes straight from the pump to the where the clean water should be, if you managed to remove the water flow into the left one entirely while it was flowing it would be fine but whatever pipe is connected to it is still moving liquid so that doesnt work either, i tried it and cant get it to work at all in anyway that is automated
i found another video that words essentially its just looping water between 2 liquid containers with a germ detector through a valve all withing chlorine
What's the best way to eliminate germs that have gotten where they shouldn't? E.g. some dupe has had an accident over my main clean-water reservoir, and now it's contaminated with food poisoning; how do I fix it?
So I have a quick question about automatic germ killing, is there a way or a set amount of time it would need to stay in clorine to make sure every last germ is dead before moving on? I usually set it to 1/3 a cycle pumping out > 1/3 a cycle filling > 1/3 cleansing, but occasionally will still have the odd bunch of germs leak through
@@metyon would work if I was setting this up after plastic, but this is something I end up doing within the first hundred cycles most of the time to fill my water tanks with clean water from slime biomes
@@omega7700 the only way i see it working without it is to build like 5 tanks and have a flow control in the import , so that theres always small amounts of water in the tanks, so less germs to remove do keep in mind that you can combine radiation with chlorine and heat/chill, thus removing more germs per second this is all without time control, but its all a question of testing it to see if it can keep up, but 1/2 for filling and another 1/2 for emptying should do it
afik, the easiest early game germ killer is a chlorine room with at least 3-4 liquid reservoirs in sequence. so long as they never empty, i think the water coming out of the last reservoir will be sanitized. one of the episodes of Francis John's minibase series covers how to set it up. there are probably a few tutorials out there as well.
there are also some clever builds out there using air lock doors made of uranium ore to sanitize water in the dlc. i think 2legitcity has a tutorial on one of those designs.
You can use the germ sensor in an alternative set-up, but doing a chlorine room without them is still viable and not made obsolete by that. I see them as two approaches to solve the same problem.
Slimelung is the only threat in the air, and the best way to deal with it is to avoid digging up slime that offgasses in the first place. But if it is in the air, then getting rid of the polluted oxygen will stop it spreading. Placing some deodorizers around will fix the problem relatively quickly.
I did cover zombie spores in the Germs Tutorial Bite, but my key message is really atmo suits for dealing with them (which you'll want for the hotter temperatures of oil biomes anyway). It's generally really difficult to get dupes infected with zombie spores unless you're trying!
finally, a gc fungus video on the most iconic problem in oni: peeing in the water supply
😂😂😂
Well it wouldn't be ONI without a little toilet accident!
I love how while you were explaining the chlorine room your duplicant made a mess
Well it's only fitting isn't it? :D
With the new update out, you can also use sanishells to clean germs!
So gulp+sanisshell is a water purifiacation plant
Dude how do you have so few subs?! It’s concise and well explained
I assumed the water sieve cleaned the germs too, so now my fresh water is full of germs! I wish they made it easier to clean the germs out of water geesh
Wheezeworts are the best source of radiation. For the materials study station, I set up a pip farm with 6 of them and added a few uranium doors. It produces 134 radbolts a cycle while only consuming the electricity necessary for the generator. (also includes automation to keep radbolts from hitting dupes, and to turn off the generator when the station is full)
Yep, wheezeworts are definitely the easiest early/mid game source of radbolts in my opinion, before transitioning to nuclear waste compression. This is part of the tutorial bite for radbolts.
One stupid easy method I used was to pump the p water into a chamber that surrounds the uranium nugget that spawns on most maps. It works remarkably well for as long as you don't mine that resource out.
Great video, would love to see you do a full beginner friendly let’s play for the first 100 cycles or something!
Thanks for the suggestion - that certainly is something that I have down as planned to do, but I have so many tutorial bites still to cover first!
@@GCFungus Cant wait!
Great videos! Hope that you will make a tutorial bites about automation one day. I find it quite complicated to use it efficiently which most of the newbie also experienced.
Automation is definitely on my list to do, so stay tuned!
More videos please. I find them very entertaining and informative
Hi, there is another way of doing it. If you make a box where the air on it is at 3,6kg, it makes the poluted water not produce polluted air. This add with clorine kills all existing germs(Must be all titles clorine touching water i think). It takes some time to kill it but it does. Try it ;) Ty for all your tutorials! GJ
ty very much i was looking for a way to clear germs ever since I've made an opsie of routing de poluted water strait into my fresh water tank, man when I saw all my colonists becoming sick that was ruff
Metal door made out of uranium also have radiation (quite easier to set up when ur planetoid have little wheezewort)
My last couple games (both Spaced Out, so dunno how it is in vanilla) have had a small patch of uranium ore just outside the starting biome. I got the radioactive metal door purifier set up long before I had my first thimble reed seed, or a ladder to the surface. It's pretty convenient in the early game.
Radiation and anything relating to it aren't included in base game
I always built a vertical set of tanks, with a mechanized airlock linking them together.. then id boil the water, and have a germ sensor set to open the door when the water was clean... now i wonder if there's any point of this at all.. as i can just have the dupes shower in their own filth repeatedly :P
Big fan of your videos. For this topic I'm already a bit advanced (personal weird focus...). At first I was really doubting the efficiency of this simple solution for chlorine room, since it does not avoid completely germs at the end of the line. I re-created it exactly on sandbox and ok. The dilution and timed chlorine exposure is enough after some times to prevent germs to reproduce (too few) on the final polluted water container. So we can indeed consider it germ free for long-term.
BUT there are some limitations : it implies a constant flow of germy-polluted water. If one of those containers run out, the dilution does not work and it's over. You're not stressing enough IMO the interest of dilution for germs management. So this setup cannot handle all situations. You're not directly mentioning also the fact that pipes content is NOT cleaned by chlorine gas.
The 2 other methods (heat or cold) are worth mentioning but nobody use it of course since it's really not efficient. It would have been interesting maybe to develop more on the chlorine solution.
The simple method I prefer using is taking directly advantage of the liquid container's logic activation parameter. Two full containers as well like you. No door trick. But the first one is automated with let's say 40 low threshold and 70 high threshold, and it can activate only during a part of the cycle, a small part enough to get rid of potential excess water AND not as the same time germy-water is introduced (for safety). Limited automation as well but the difference is that it's absolutely germ-free. Not even 1 at the end. And more important, there no risk if the containers are running out of polluted water and start again. The system itself will wait for the dilution effect to take place before restarting. imgur.com/a/yvdTa2x
I must precise It's very specialized for toilets.
Thanks for taking the time to add the detailed info! It sounds like you probably are more of an expert than I am in this topic, and to be honest I don't really do this myself because it really isn't necessary. Making these tutorials on topics that I'm not so familiar on is certainly trickier, and I always try and research thoroughly every topic, but to be honest I did struggle to find a lot of really useful designs on this.
It did occur to me that the system may not be completely effective in all situation, but it worked as I tested it and it's a fine balance between testing absolutely everything (which would take ages) and testing enough to be sure it works. I hope at some point I might be able to remaster these to improve the audio quality, and if so I will include your input.
I wish they made water sanitization a more integrated and essential part of the game. It seems both strange and absolutely disgusting that duplicants can wash their hands and bathe in completely germ infested water without consequence 🤮
i agree but at the end of the day its a video game, all consistency is out of the question
@@themythical7383 Actually, germs used to be a very big problem in early builds of ONI. Food Poisioning used to make you vomit randomly and SlimeLung was deadly if left untreated. They ended up nerfing germs a lot as time went by; mostly becase vomiting produced too much Polluted Water and ppl just started to use it as an easy way to get to Electrolyizer feed early and just let dupes stay sick all the time. Now THAT'S gross.
An excellent guide.
the only question i have left is like, what about zombie spores, kinda terrified by them so i never really explore the oil biomes
If you have atmo suits (which will help with the temperatures too) you'll be fine!
What I was always wondering since Noone writes about it...
With food poisoning, they use the toilet twice as much, right?
So the water produced by the toilet usage is 2x as much??
I always try to purposely get my dupes food poisoning.
Or is my math off with this??
I just got the game and I am trying to use chlorine to kill germs in water in a tank I made that has Airflow tiles on the inside that touch the water.
Will this work?
Currently letting it run to see if it does anything but process is slow.
Thank you to anyone that knows the answer.
You have to use a liquid reservoir in chlorine as I showed. Just having water next to chlorine gas won't work.
This doesnt work for me. The only thing i did diffrent was that the polluted water comes straight from the toilets into reservoir, but the clorine room is the same. Is this why it isnt working?
As long as the reservoir is sat inside chlorine and the polluted water is in there long enough then it should work. Maybe it wasn't in there long enough?
@@GCFungus i think there might be a fundamental issue with it, when you do it like that when the door is closed and water is flowing new germy water is added to the system and you cant expect it to die while coming out so while there is less its not sanitised it just goes straight from the pump to the where the clean water should be, if you managed to remove the water flow into the left one entirely while it was flowing it would be fine but whatever pipe is connected to it is still moving liquid so that doesnt work either, i tried it and cant get it to work at all in anyway that is automated
i found another video that words essentially its just looping water between 2 liquid containers with a germ detector through a valve all withing chlorine
so if it can go through the valve it does and if it cant it just keeps looping
What's the best way to eliminate germs that have gotten where they shouldn't? E.g. some dupe has had an accident over my main clean-water reservoir, and now it's contaminated with food poisoning; how do I fix it?
That was the entire topic of the video, so not sure what more I can add. Use one of these methods.
Use the Tepedizer method in the vid. He went over EXACTLY what to do..
So I have a quick question about automatic germ killing, is there a way or a set amount of time it would need to stay in clorine to make sure every last germ is dead before moving on? I usually set it to 1/3 a cycle pumping out > 1/3 a cycle filling > 1/3 cleansing, but occasionally will still have the odd bunch of germs leak through
you could always use a germ detector that turns off/on a shutoff
@@metyon would work if I was setting this up after plastic, but this is something I end up doing within the first hundred cycles most of the time to fill my water tanks with clean water from slime biomes
@@omega7700 the only way i see it working without it is to build like 5 tanks and have a flow control in the import , so that theres always small amounts of water in the tanks, so less germs to remove
do keep in mind that you can combine radiation with chlorine and heat/chill, thus removing more germs per second
this is all without time control, but its all a question of testing it to see if it can keep up, but 1/2 for filling and another 1/2 for emptying should do it
afik, the easiest early game germ killer is a chlorine room with at least 3-4 liquid reservoirs in sequence. so long as they never empty, i think the water coming out of the last reservoir will be sanitized.
one of the episodes of Francis John's minibase series covers how to set it up. there are probably a few tutorials out there as well.
there are also some clever builds out there using air lock doors made of uranium ore to sanitize water in the dlc. i think 2legitcity has a tutorial on one of those designs.
I think this is obsolete now, as you can detect germs now?
You can use the germ sensor in an alternative set-up, but doing a chlorine room without them is still viable and not made obsolete by that. I see them as two approaches to solve the same problem.
Where is the Sanishell critter morph, new way to clean germs
Cleaning germs FROM WATER. How about when the germs are in the air??
Thats when your base is in trouble lol
Slimelung is the only threat in the air, and the best way to deal with it is to avoid digging up slime that offgasses in the first place. But if it is in the air, then getting rid of the polluted oxygen will stop it spreading. Placing some deodorizers around will fix the problem relatively quickly.
My base is germans free now, ty.
Ach nein!
Man, Im so sad you didnt cover zombie spores. I need help over here! Great videos though bud.
I did cover zombie spores in the Germs Tutorial Bite, but my key message is really atmo suits for dealing with them (which you'll want for the hotter temperatures of oil biomes anyway). It's generally really difficult to get dupes infected with zombie spores unless you're trying!
This video is already out of date. It doesn't include Sanishells.
Just use a wheezewort