ZZZ is on another level. If you're curious about ZZZ cinematics, I break those down too 👀th-cam.com/video/76jIDBfOQT4/w-d-xo.html EDIT: WE FORGOT TO INCLUDE KOLEDA AND BEN'S ULTIMATE! I did watch it on stream, but we forgot to include it in the edit T-T will definitely be more careful in future videos! We're also thinking about making a dedicated video for parry and special animations! Stay tuned!!
@professorGoo I promise you. You have to see honkai impact 3rd CG cut scenes. If you haven't. Please. Hoyoverses animators have put their soul to those animations compared to all their other games. I have most of it listed they may have more since then th-cam.com/play/PLJaYQA-IgmZqaeZIef_TIyVB8Tvr7UN6R.html&si=4lcB82B8eO_3KIY9
@professorGoo I promise you. You have to see honkai impact 3rd CG cut scenes. If you haven't. Please. Hoyoverses animators have put their soul to those animations compared to all their other games. I have most of it listed they may have more since then
oh man, Guilty Gear next? there was a really interesting GDC talk about their animation process a few years back if you (or anyone else) havent seen that already, highly recommended
It's cool, but after Collede's animation her doesn't seem as impactful imo. They are "prettier" on a technical level, but not as cool or impactful for me :-( I wish they'll make someone with Collede animations, but idk if another "loli with a flaming hammer" will fit into the game
It’s fascinating that Billy somehow has one of the most expressive face in the entire game, maybe the fact that he only has 2 very non-detailed eyes helps the animators to freely exaggerate it.
Part of it is that a lot of human facial expressions can be conveyed through just the eyes alone in animation because the brows and cheeks both effect the "eye shape". part of it is also that they exaggerate those "eye shapes" quite a bit for Billy to make up for him not having a mouth compared to other characters. In this case it helps that his eyes are also both very noticeable and very simple, so you don't get distracted by anything else and notice those shapes more clearly.
It's ironic because ingame Billy says he'd like to save up money to get a more expressive faceplate someday; but really what he's got is pretty good already!
I don't disagree, and I also think there's a lot of underappreciated body language too. Things like the way he walks (which was even mentioned in the video) or how he flails his arms around really add a lot to his expressiveness as well.
@@XanothAvaeth Agreed, they have a lot of cat mannerisms blended into her body language, more than I'm used to seeing with catgirl characters and it's really charming
I agree, that's a mischief face, not an angry face. I also really love the butt wiggle she does in her ult because it reminds me of what cats actually do when they are about to pounce. Usually, when something has a cat girl she either just has the ear and tail or at the most she'll do the stretch so Im glad ZZZ included the butt wiggle thing too. It makes Nekomata seem even more cat-like. I'm surprised I haven't seen any reactor mention it yet.
Nicole actually has secret animations where when you click E then do a spin she’ll sit on her suitcase the fire her void shot. also if you let go of E early in to the spin Nicole falls down then the void shot goes in to the air then hits the enemy
I want to add, everything about jane doe screams figure skating, from the way she stands up by moving her foot above her body, to her dodges swinging from side to side and her spin attack animation.
During Jane's episode, inspecting Bardic Needle will have Jane remark that music goes well with figure skating, implying she has experience with it (which makes a LOT of sense)
supposedly a lot of her movements were inspired by ice skating. I've heard she even has a voice line where she talks about doing figure skating in the past. honestly my first thought was roller skating (though I suppose ice skating fits more with the foot knife), the way she moved in her dodges briefly made me think that she was wearing wheelie shoes or something
There’s a big chance you’re actually right. I don’t remember where I read it exactly, but IIRC in one of her ability names I read on her trial in the latest quest, mentioned “Salchow”, so…
The fact that ZZZ uses Impact frames and Goo has satisfaction in Seeing them Makes what Da Wei and the ZZZ devs say about "satisfying" have so much more meaning.
He's just not impressed, you can tell he's trying to find any sort of compliment, but from his critique you can tell that there's alot of problems with it. Whereas if you look at his pgr reactions he's always surprised and is always praising the animations unlike this video. ZZZ is half baked and you can tell.
@@akirakan5086oh yes, I thought to myself "it always looked good and proper to me" and that's because you basically never use uncharged version. That flip makes so much more sense with the jets going
@SPatrickRoss feels like a mix of Muay Thai, Wushu and gymnastic ability because of the raised leg and basically splits he does when he does his special and EX special. The sweep kick in his EX feels especially Wushu/kickboxing for me
11:10 I don't think they were trying to represent anger, but the expressions of a hunting cat. She is scouting the area for her prey and changes expressions when she locks sight on it, and doesn't blink because she doesn't want to lose visual contact.
Lucy switch parry is her key animation as well, depending on the force of the attack dodged its either 1 or 3 pigs pushing her back preventing her form falling.
There’s so much missing animation showcasing from most characters, I can understand that it’s already a lot given the length of this video but some of it has nice details and animation to them. Especially not looking at Jane’s Passion state animation changes, that one is a criminal to not look at 😭
At around 8:04 Lycaon can pull off some of those poses because he's got his tail as a counter balance. The unorthodox poses that he can pull makes sense when counteracted by the weight or swing of his tail which acts as a third limb
Thats what i was about to say. Hes taking into account a human doing this when its an animal using the balance of the tail thrown into the overall physics of the movements.
I'm a bit disappointed the showcase didn't include Special attacks or animation changes. For example, Anby gets more acrobatic to show how she can flow and commit to a big move if needed, Ellen uses big movements and even a sort of wide "swimming" sweep, Koleda + Ben's combos, Lycaon incorporating his jets into his charged normals, Jane's passion state spin attack, Nicole's alternate EX, etc. Still, its good to have insight into why these animations are so good other than just being so smooth.
Oh yeah, Ellen one is you need her energy filled so you can do twice And then tap skill twice, its so good Smh, almost all these are in trial mode, idk why the vid maker didnt do that there instead, the guide will show you the way
Soukaku's basic attack animations change when she gets full stacks. And Ben's counter animations are core to his gameplay. The video he is watching is over all not a good showcasing of all of the character animations. Not to mention the sloppy mixing of Lycaons attacks and Seth's random use of his skill.
WE FORGOT TO INCLUDE KOLEDA AND BEN'S ULTIMATE! I did watch it on stream, but we forgot to include it in the edit T-T will definitely be more careful in future videos! We're also thinking about making a dedicated video for parry and special animations! Stay tuned!!
Aside from the Unique Ultimate that Koleda gets when in a party with Ben, Nicole actually has a Hidden Animation Attack. When using her EX Attack, if you rotate the movement 'stick' (Or if using WASD if using a Keyboard.) a full Clockwise spin (Think actual Fighting Game combo commands.) while holding her EX Attack Button she will make two different Unique Animations. If you hold the button down until the attack ends, she actually puts the charging Suitcase Weapon down on the floor and SITS ON IT like in her Menu Screen Animation, and lets it fire. If you let go of the attack button as she starts to sit down, she will lose her balance because the suitcase fired early, and she will fall down on her butt. This second version actually acts like an Artillery shot much like Lucy's Full EX Charge attack.
The reason I LOVE soldier 11’s animation for her ultimate is because during the actual attack, it feels HEAVY, like it’s actually doing the damage it does
This is one thing a lot of companies get wrong with animations, that ZZZ gets so right! It's not just the animation and sound design. It's that you can feel it as well, there is impact, force and momentum and you can feel it all, which gives it such a nice responsiveness to hitting the button.
I actually disagree with Dilon on his assessment on her Ult. I believe they did it right because if they actually did it in a focal point, the flame sword would hurt 11. The reason why she goes upward is because of that.
When my team worked on this for localization VO, we were absolutely blown away by the animation. Hours of effort sessions for all actors and I was never bored. Great breakdown!
For Nekomatas facial expression change: if you watch cats closely, you will see they often switch facial expressions without blinking. Our cat does that often, looking at you with those round baby eyes only to change into those smirking naughty ones like Nekomata does in the intro, without blinking.
12:33 and because thats the way cats build up momentum before they pounce on prey, same with a lot of other behaviour Nekomata shows and its very funky to see this from a perspective of somebody who has two cats at home. Most of Nekomatas animations and behaviour is just too familiar.
The butt wiggle before the pounce in her ultimate too. Nekomata's the most cat-like catgirl in a while in terms of little mannerisms and body language.
@@gtf234 Hard agree, they really emphasized on the cat part rather than the girl part, which I quite like, most catgirls in recent days are catgirls only because of their ears and tail.
This is only the second video of yours that I've seen, and I have to say I LOVE your reactions to the animations you really like. I haven't had this much fun watching animation videos in a long time. You, sir, are SS tier. Thank you for the great content!
One thing i really love about Lucy is her running and sprint animation, when running, she'll 'drag' her bat but when sprinting, she smoothly pickup her bat and rest it on her shoulder, such a cool little animation. Jane is currently the only agent that have walk animation and it's so damn good, the way her thumbs rest on the belt strap/hook thing on her chest and of course, the little jiggle on her uh...uh...bakery, so satisfying.
I love how detailed the animations in this game are. Like, it was only a few days ago I found out that the parry animations are different if your fighting and elite or boss enemy.
A little thing about 11 if you did not see her trailer: the way how she pull out her sword, more like she just making fire reaction (i really don't know how to explain that word but sth sth like that 😔) so it's like she did it on purpose with that pose
9:12 They absolutely forgot the effect for his leg boosters, that's why it looks like it can fly. The animator was thinking about this little rocket that enhances his power (you can see it in his ultimate) but I guess the effect lead forgot about it
I like that when Piper’s weapon slams down after the horizontal-then-downward strikes, her body bounces a bit (it more noticeable on her outer leg). The weight of the weapon and the force of those swings are SO good.
For Nicole animations, whoever filmed them forgot to add her 2 secrets animations for her skill. If press and hold her skill, then do a clockwise circle with the joystick (can do on Keyboard too by doing "D-S-A-W-D") Nicole will from her standing animation do a spin around and sit on the suitcase while covering her ears to have a more powerful (more damage) charged skill before firing the ether rocket and catching the suitcase on the recoil. And if you do like before, spin joystick ( D-S-A-W-D for keyboard) and release hold on the skill button as you finish spinning the joystick (or as you finish pressing in combo D-S-A-W-D) she will also do the animation of spinning around the suitcase and sitting on it, but will "miss" and sit a bit sideways and fall on the floor while the suitcase loses control and shoots the ether rocket upwards which then lands on the enemies on a delayed way (good for dong quick swap combos), which feels like she's shooting a mortar on the enemies. i don't know if other characters have hidden animations like this but it's a very nice touch for Nicole if anyone plays Nicole. It allows also to extend the invulnerability during the animation
The nekomata shocked me. It felt like after the intro it was getting insane praise, i was 100% expecting S tier from the praise, to then become to new lowest was such shock.
Too bad you never looked at the Koleda combos with Ben, since she gets different animations. Also Nicole's other skill animations, Soukaku's combo after flying her banner, Zhu Yuan's suppressive mode, and a bunch of other stuff.
Also Zhu Yuan's dodge interrupts and reflow after BA3, BA4 or BA5, QingYi's dodge counters mid-BA3, Anby's chain combos with different outcomes depending on BA1,2,3,(hold4),EX or BA1,2,3,(pause),4/EX, etc. It's crazy how many undocumented combos and tech inputs the devs put in the game for the players to experiment with and discover.
There’re so many things you missed out in this video, like the perfect assist, parry, some characters’ EX skill. Like Anby’s perfect assist, that got the best animation, feels so good everytime I pull it off
Your two ZZZ videos have been excellent. ZZZ's style of animation is one of my favourite in gaming that I've seen but I'm a layman when it comes to animation so having someone really break down the animations and explain them so clearly is really cool because it lets me understand why I actually like them so much and you've taught me features and techniques I can identify in the animations. I've learnt I like the cutscene animations so much because of how willing the animators are to manipulate character anatomy by "stretching and squashing" models and by "breaking bones" to emphasise anticipation frames which creates a really bouncy and energetic style of animation. And I think the biggest thing about the combat animations for me is that while a lot of them are really impressive and flashy they've paid huge attention to momentum, centres of gravity, pivots, mass etc. which turns the animations from just crazy, super human, video game movements to movements that actually look like they are being performed by an actual human body with balance and weight who is actually wielding a giant hammer or a sectioned staff.
28:15 mechanical engineer here, centrifugal force isn't a real force. That kick gives the axe more kinetic energy and increases the radius of the arc more than anything, contributing to a whipping effect to increase impact strength like a sledgehammer. Objects have a standard inertia from their mass when moving in a straight line, and there's a rotational equivalent called "moment of inertia", which is related to mass x radius-squared. The further the mass is from the pivot, the more it resists angular acceleration. The swing starts closer to the body so it's easier to start, then the kick increases the radius, giving more moment of inertia to invest energy in. "Centrifugal" force is not in the direction of the swing, so it doesn't really contribute directly. This also means the "spin speed" doesn't actually increase, at least the angular rotation speed. It would actually probably decrease, but the tangential velocity of the blade would increase because it's further out.
Not gonna lie, been really burned out with animating after the fustercluck that was college, but seeing this breakdown vidya and the previous one on the Cinematics has me wanting to go out there and take a stab at making something fun again. It's always the RWBY guys, I swear. First Monty getting me interested at first, then Goo sort of reigniting it.
Perhaps you saw it on stream, but there are many more intricate animations hidden with the characters. For example, all characters have a unique stopping animation (Corin will stop short on one foot, and wave her free arm to maintain balance, so cute!), and most recovery animations are different depending on where you stop a character's combo (Piper will sometimes kick her hammer-axe back into her idle pose).
Koleda even has some alternate combat animation when Ben is in the team. They then start doing some serious tag team shit, like Koleda jumping in the air, then Ben comes in whacking his concrete bar and Koleda hitting the bar from the top - just amazing and I hope Hoyoverse will introduce some more of these interactions with characters from the same faction
5:09 something i’d like to see in future animation analysis / explanation videos like this is a clip of what dillon explained after he finishes explaining it. having a replay of the animation with the half-way catch grenade (what dillon was explaining) right after he finishes explaining / pointing it out would have been nice that way we don’t have to go back and find the point where the animation is shown, esp when dillon explains for much longer than the animation duration :3 i feel this mainly applies to parts where he’s **observing** what really happens it’s not needed when he’s saying what he wished happened as he does visual drawings with red pen e.x. dillon’s reaction to animation -> dillon points things out, explains why they’re good, bad, etc. -> replay of said animation edit: same goes for when dillon explains nekomata’s non-blinking and billy’s overstep!! i didn’t notice those small details until he pointed them out and explained them, and i wish i got to see them in action right after
Not sure if you watched them or not, but there are a ton of animations for other interactions with teammates and enemies as well. For example, a Defensive Assist vs a light attack and a heavy attack. Lucy's boars prop her up and she falls flat on top of them for the heavy parry assist. Or Ellen transfers impact into a weapon spin for light parry, and gets knocked back with her weapon planted into the ground for heavy parry. Koleda also has modified basic combos with Ben. Jane and Qingyi both have special dash-stopping animations too. Etc.
16:55 I don't think that making Soldier 11's eyes pop really works for who she is. Soldier 11 is, above all else, a weapon. She really doesn't have a personality. Her eyes being obscured in her ultimate animation isn't really bad for her because she is dehumanized and she is at the point where she is most inhuman.
best part about anton is his va cyu. before they announced/confirmed vas for this game everyone knew who voiced anton and thus he becomes hoyos worst kept secret
12:43 bruh, you had so much to point out and criticize on Lycaon and Grace, and Nekomata only the intro thing which should not count that much weight imo to begin with and put her in B!? B!!! do you hate Cats?
Jane doe also has the most creative standing pose and walk cycle. She hooks her thumbs into loops on her jacket which gives her the most unmistakable "rodent" feel.
well actually 8:35 is very close to a pose of french boxing where you ready a sidekick to have more power and stability. You are taught not to stay on your toes and have your torso more straight and vertical when you do it to be more rigid, but with it's robotic legs it still works well and the vertical torso would probably make the pose less clear from the back. What's interesting is that his sidekicks are the only poses reminiscent of french boxing to me, mostly because he doesn't arm his other kicks, but he keeps the vibes of control and technicality from french boxing. I thinks it's because he seems to never "overshoots" with his momentum even if the moves are exageratted. And I love the french boxing references, it seems to be almost non-existant outside of France but it's a very thechnical fighting sport and can be beautiful when you chain kicks together (from my very biased opinion)
great vid, really cool to see it all broken down. A little sad we didn't get to see their Specials and assists though as some of them have superb style (look forward to seeing that vid if you make it 👀)
I agree so much about Soldier 11's ultimate, we barely see her emotions in that, while Anby's one filled with so much emotion and was screaming like "Hey dude, I'm referencing your favourite Metal Gear Rising title screen!"
As much as i love ur list but some of them are not at their full potential sadly.i think you should give score base on all animation such charge attacks,secret moves and dash attack..etc also parry
@@gmoney9469i mean, its fair though, he missed half of Zhu’s kit, he missed half of ben’d kit. He missed a lot of animations on each character, he even missed Koleda’s ability and her working together with Ben.
Fun fact: Everyone in Victoria are themed after old monsters! Corrin is Frankenstein Monster, Von Lycaon is a werewolf, Ellen is Jaws, and Rina is a ghost! (I love Rina and Ellen so much)
Nicole already got an S so it doesn't matter, but she has a neat alternate skill animation if you do a circle with the directional inputs, and then ANOTHER if you interrupt the charge early. Pretty crazy for a free A-rank character.
One fun thing about Koleda is that some of her animations actually change if Ben is in the party, where he'll tag in at the end of her main combo to add extra impact, as well as join in on her Ult for a totally different animation. It's super fun, and I think completely unique to her currently.
16:56 Yeah, I totally agree. That's why one of the best mods to use with her is clearing her goggles a little bit more to be able to see her eyes better. Or even removing it completely for dialogue scenes.
I'm honestly a little sad that there was no mention or analysis of Ellen's sprinting animation. That was by far one of the most visually impressive things for me in 1.0, the way Ellen has that circling-shark feel when she sprints around.
ZZZ is on another level. If you're curious about ZZZ cinematics, I break those down too 👀th-cam.com/video/76jIDBfOQT4/w-d-xo.html
EDIT: WE FORGOT TO INCLUDE KOLEDA AND BEN'S ULTIMATE! I did watch it on stream, but we forgot to include it in the edit T-T will definitely be more careful in future videos! We're also thinking about making a dedicated video for parry and special animations! Stay tuned!!
You forgot about koleada's second ult with the 🐻😅
@@astadevilunion1 I WATCHED IT ON STREAM ACTUALLY!! Forgot to include it, but it was included in the ranking consideration
@professorGoo I promise you. You have to see honkai impact 3rd CG cut scenes. If you haven't. Please. Hoyoverses animators have put their soul to those animations compared to all their other games.
I have most of it listed they may have more since then
th-cam.com/play/PLJaYQA-IgmZqaeZIef_TIyVB8Tvr7UN6R.html&si=4lcB82B8eO_3KIY9
@professorGoo I promise you. You have to see honkai impact 3rd CG cut scenes. If you haven't. Please. Hoyoverses animators have put their soul to those animations compared to all their other games.
I have most of it listed they may have more since then
@@professorGoo what about parry and dodge animations?
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i love how Koleda's animations feel like half of it is her swinging the hammer and half the hammer swinging her around due to the sheer weight
oh man, Guilty Gear next? there was a really interesting GDC talk about their animation process a few years back
if you (or anyone else) havent seen that already, highly recommended
which is SO perfect given her personality
It's cool, but after Collede's animation her doesn't seem as impactful imo.
They are "prettier" on a technical level, but not as cool or impactful for me :-(
I wish they'll make someone with Collede animations, but idk if another "loli with a flaming hammer" will fit into the game
@@zenixvampirchik652 with how they use physics Piper is fairly similar, but obviously the fire theme isn't there
its the same for piper, its so good.
It’s fascinating that Billy somehow has one of the most expressive face in the entire game, maybe the fact that he only has 2 very non-detailed eyes helps the animators to freely exaggerate it.
It's worked for Spider-Man for over 60 years; if it ain't broken, there's no need to fix it
Part of it is that a lot of human facial expressions can be conveyed through just the eyes alone in animation because the brows and cheeks both effect the "eye shape".
part of it is also that they exaggerate those "eye shapes" quite a bit for Billy to make up for him not having a mouth compared to other characters.
In this case it helps that his eyes are also both very noticeable and very simple, so you don't get distracted by anything else and notice those shapes more clearly.
When he speaks, his jaw also moves for some odd reason...
It's ironic because ingame Billy says he'd like to save up money to get a more expressive faceplate someday; but really what he's got is pretty good already!
I don't disagree, and I also think there's a lot of underappreciated body language too. Things like the way he walks (which was even mentioned in the video) or how he flails his arms around really add a lot to his expressiveness as well.
i think at 11:11 ith nekomata the misconcepton is that it's an angry face... I am convinced it's her "mischief" face as she's about to fuck around
Yeah it's a very cat behaviour, especially the absence of a blink
@@XanothAvaeth Agreed, they have a lot of cat mannerisms blended into her body language, more than I'm used to seeing with catgirl characters and it's really charming
That's her "Found a guy to mess with" face
That's "I found the pray!" 😈
I agree, that's a mischief face, not an angry face. I also really love the butt wiggle she does in her ult because it reminds me of what cats actually do when they are about to pounce. Usually, when something has a cat girl she either just has the ear and tail or at the most she'll do the stretch so Im glad ZZZ included the butt wiggle thing too. It makes Nekomata seem even more cat-like. I'm surprised I haven't seen any reactor mention it yet.
Nicole actually has secret animations where when you click E then do a spin she’ll sit on her suitcase the fire her void shot. also if you let go of E early in to the spin Nicole falls down then the void shot goes in to the air then hits the enemy
Came to comments to mention this, they look great and do convey even more of her personality.
is that actually in game or just beta? I've gone to the training room to try and never pulled it off
@@higorgabriel2598 It's in the game. It's no that easy to pull off, but it's in the game.
@@higorgabriel2598u have to spin in like a 360 quickly like hit wasd while she's charging her shot
@@higorgabriel2598 Its easier to do it with joysticks than keyboards
I want to add, everything about jane doe screams figure skating, from the way she stands up by moving her foot above her body, to her dodges swinging from side to side and her spin attack animation.
During Jane's episode, inspecting Bardic Needle will have Jane remark that music goes well with figure skating, implying she has experience with it (which makes a LOT of sense)
Someone mentioned her design reminded them of a stingray.. those also move insanely elegant across the ocean floor.
supposedly a lot of her movements were inspired by ice skating. I've heard she even has a voice line where she talks about doing figure skating in the past.
honestly my first thought was roller skating (though I suppose ice skating fits more with the foot knife), the way she moved in her dodges briefly made me think that she was wearing wheelie shoes or something
@@kuromiLayfe close... but i think an actual aquatic character archetype will showcase that better, if we ever get one, particularly a stingray
There’s a big chance you’re actually right. I don’t remember where I read it exactly, but IIRC in one of her ability names I read on her trial in the latest quest, mentioned “Salchow”, so…
Goo in every other game: "Woah! Impact frames?! I love impact frames!" Goo in ZZZ: "Woah" Impact frames are now the norm, not the exception.
in ZZZ character without impact frame are the exception
The fact that ZZZ uses Impact frames and Goo has satisfaction in Seeing them Makes what Da Wei and the ZZZ devs say about "satisfying" have so much more meaning.
He's just not impressed, you can tell he's trying to find any sort of compliment, but from his critique you can tell that there's alot of problems with it. Whereas if you look at his pgr reactions he's always surprised and is always praising the animations unlike this video. ZZZ is half baked and you can tell.
@@YOUHUOUGGHHHwhy are you hating so much all your comments are just hating on zzz or hoyo games if you hate it so much why are you watching this
@@migaslz8444 don’t pay attention, it’s either rage bait or some loser who’s whole personality is basically just obsessing over something they hate
lycaon’s attacks are meant to be held down to do ice damage which makes him freeze at each pose
Also activates the jets on them which could explain the awkward flip
@@akirakan5086oh yes, I thought to myself "it always looked good and proper to me" and that's because you basically never use uncharged version. That flip makes so much more sense with the jets going
I'm not an expert, but could his kicks be based on Savate?
@SPatrickRoss feels like a mix of Muay Thai, Wushu and gymnastic ability because of the raised leg and basically splits he does when he does his special and EX special. The sweep kick in his EX feels especially Wushu/kickboxing for me
11:10 I don't think they were trying to represent anger, but the expressions of a hunting cat. She is scouting the area for her prey and changes expressions when she locks sight on it, and doesn't blink because she doesn't want to lose visual contact.
^^^ this. This is her "Oh, hello prey!" eye shift.
adding on, cats don't blink very often. Changing expressions with a blink feels wrong in a way. (I have a cat myself)
Yea, she look like the hehe meme cat
i agree with this so much
They could've added a 3rd eyelid blink if they wanted to get funky with it
Lucy switch parry is her key animation as well, depending on the force of the attack dodged its either 1 or 3 pigs pushing her back preventing her form falling.
Fr. Its kinda sad that the video didnt show the parry animations, which are really important in zzz
@@tusmuerttos738 Yeah, the parries feel and look amazing.
It genuinely is my favorite animation in the whole game. It's so bouncy and creative
I SHOULD HAVE. I love the parry animations. Maybe I'll make a video dedicated to the parry animations.
Didn't see him do Koleda+Ben animations too :(
There’s so much missing animation showcasing from most characters, I can understand that it’s already a lot given the length of this video but some of it has nice details and animation to them. Especially not looking at Jane’s Passion state animation changes, that one is a criminal to not look at 😭
Yeah, I feel like he missed a lot of the ex special attacks, and then some special stuff like unique modes, Nicole sitting down, and Ben + Koleda
@@hitchicker42also the idle animations
I thought the same. He didn't even see Ellen's scissor kick
The Dodge and especially the Parry animation as well
Bro, the Jane spin and the final "breakdance" pose...aaaaaah😩 he need see that
At around 8:04 Lycaon can pull off some of those poses because he's got his tail as a counter balance. The unorthodox poses that he can pull makes sense when counteracted by the weight or swing of his tail which acts as a third limb
Thats what i was about to say. Hes taking into account a human doing this when its an animal using the balance of the tail thrown into the overall physics of the movements.
I'm a bit disappointed the showcase didn't include Special attacks or animation changes. For example, Anby gets more acrobatic to show how she can flow and commit to a big move if needed, Ellen uses big movements and even a sort of wide "swimming" sweep, Koleda + Ben's combos, Lycaon incorporating his jets into his charged normals, Jane's passion state spin attack, Nicole's alternate EX, etc. Still, its good to have insight into why these animations are so good other than just being so smooth.
Me too 😢
Also where are the Parries and Dodges??
Oh yeah, Ellen one is you need her energy filled so you can do twice
And then tap skill twice, its so good
Smh, almost all these are in trial mode, idk why the vid maker didnt do that there instead, the guide will show you the way
Soukaku's basic attack animations change when she gets full stacks. And Ben's counter animations are core to his gameplay. The video he is watching is over all not a good showcasing of all of the character animations. Not to mention the sloppy mixing of Lycaons attacks and Seth's random use of his skill.
WE FORGOT TO INCLUDE KOLEDA AND BEN'S ULTIMATE! I did watch it on stream, but we forgot to include it in the edit T-T will definitely be more careful in future videos! We're also thinking about making a dedicated video for parry and special animations! Stay tuned!!
Aside from the Unique Ultimate that Koleda gets when in a party with Ben, Nicole actually has a Hidden Animation Attack. When using her EX Attack, if you rotate the movement 'stick' (Or if using WASD if using a Keyboard.) a full Clockwise spin (Think actual Fighting Game combo commands.) while holding her EX Attack Button she will make two different Unique Animations. If you hold the button down until the attack ends, she actually puts the charging Suitcase Weapon down on the floor and SITS ON IT like in her Menu Screen Animation, and lets it fire. If you let go of the attack button as she starts to sit down, she will lose her balance because the suitcase fired early, and she will fall down on her butt. This second version actually acts like an Artillery shot much like Lucy's Full EX Charge attack.
14:35 YOU FORGOT THE BEN VARIANT OF HER ULT T-T
And combat, it changes so much!
He did watch them on stream, but I guess didn't feel the need to include them in the video
I was also waiting for this!
@@AshtonDragon Ohh good to know then
Man I was curious about those too, hahaha
I love the fact that the weight of Koleda’s hammer also affects her running animation, she’s leaning a bit towards it
The reason I LOVE soldier 11’s animation for her ultimate is because during the actual attack, it feels HEAVY, like it’s actually doing the damage it does
This is one thing a lot of companies get wrong with animations, that ZZZ gets so right! It's not just the animation and sound design. It's that you can feel it as well, there is impact, force and momentum and you can feel it all, which gives it such a nice responsiveness to hitting the button.
Yep, and even her attacks feel heavy and different when doing them while hitting someone vs without. Same with Anby
I actually disagree with Dilon on his assessment on her Ult. I believe they did it right because if they actually did it in a focal point, the flame sword would hurt 11. The reason why she goes upward is because of that.
Ranking honkai star rail ultimate part 2?
I hope this is seen
Hopefully hahaha
Agreed
Oh yeah, there's been some great ults released since then
He should definetly wait for feixiao in 2.5
Jane Doe's animations are inspired by an ice skater, which is quite creative
@ObiAlmighty nah it's true she has a voiceline where she talks about doing figure skating before
yeah i noticed from her stopping animation. she did the skid that ice skaters does
@ObiAlmighty One of Jane's movesets is called 'Salchow', which is an ice skating jump named after Swedish Ice Figure skater Ulrich Salchow.
The lucy one genuinely surprised me ngl I've done takewando for a while and all the movement actually make sense
When my team worked on this for localization VO, we were absolutely blown away by the animation.
Hours of effort sessions for all actors and I was never bored. Great breakdown!
For Nekomatas facial expression change: if you watch cats closely, you will see they often switch facial expressions without blinking. Our cat does that often, looking at you with those round baby eyes only to change into those smirking naughty ones like Nekomata does in the intro, without blinking.
"Soldier 11! Why does she look like Anby?"
He doesn't know 💀
?
Hell we don’t know
Yet
Nobody knows yet; all we have are theories.
neither do us 💀
It was said that Anby was Soldier 0.
12:33 and because thats the way cats build up momentum before they pounce on prey, same with a lot of other behaviour Nekomata shows and its very funky to see this from a perspective of somebody who has two cats at home. Most of Nekomatas animations and behaviour is just too familiar.
The butt wiggle before the pounce in her ultimate too. Nekomata's the most cat-like catgirl in a while in terms of little mannerisms and body language.
@@gtf234 yeah, my thoughts exactly
@@gtf234 Hard agree, they really emphasized on the cat part rather than the girl part, which I quite like, most catgirls in recent days are catgirls only because of their ears and tail.
Do people really not know that? I thought It was just a common knowlege. I don't even have cats and I know that 😭
Imagine if Seth did the same cat wiggle lmao
I don't know if this is relevant or not, but cats tend to not blink very much, which might be why they didn't make Nekomata blink in the transition?
Yeah, somehow it felt natural for her
All these animations are S tier. Some are just more S tier than others
You got me with the thumbnail. I was about to throw hands if Qingyi was put in a bad tier lol
I'll fight you right now
Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!!
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I wish they showed nicole's secret animation attack where she spins and falls down into a perfect pose while firing the gun
I love these videos, it helps me appreciate the animator's work even more.
This is only the second video of yours that I've seen, and I have to say I LOVE your reactions to the animations you really like. I haven't had this much fun watching animation videos in a long time. You, sir, are SS tier. Thank you for the great content!
ive been anticipating this video a lot!!!!!! thank you for this :D excited to see what u think of the animations !
ZZZ animators goes really hard . They are really doing an amazing job so far .
One thing i really love about Lucy is her running and sprint animation, when running, she'll 'drag' her bat but when sprinting, she smoothly pickup her bat and rest it on her shoulder, such a cool little animation.
Jane is currently the only agent that have walk animation and it's so damn good, the way her thumbs rest on the belt strap/hook thing on her chest and of course, the little jiggle on her uh...uh...bakery, so satisfying.
I love how detailed the animations in this game are. Like, it was only a few days ago I found out that the parry animations are different if your fighting and elite or boss enemy.
Goo calling Nicole Coco is such a fresh reminder that this man did do RWBY where Coco main weapon was her purse/suitcase that turns into a gun
Not to mention the Seth/Jaune comparison. Which, to be fair; valid.
@@StreetBoyWill if we see lycaon differently we can see mercury fighting style as he had metal legs
WOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Been EAGERLY waiting for this one! :D
No parries, no chains, sometiems no skills? (nicole hiddena animations too) lot of animations isnt included here, sadly
It’s funny cause you actually have to play the game to really notice those small details in the animation.
@@Karma-pq9fi The hidden animation maybe however he should have at least watched parries, chain attacks and skills
You are so attentive to detail. I've been playing zzz since release, but I haven't even noticed so many interesting animations
5:13 blud really need to clarify
THANK YOU! I thought I was crazy when I thought Ellen's closed eyes looked weird in her entry animation. It bugged me for so long!
imo, I think its fine just shows how constantly tired she is
I love he pointed out the RWBY similarities/inspirations bc I'm always looking at them too while playing!
A little thing about 11 if you did not see her trailer: the way how she pull out her sword, more like she just making fire reaction (i really don't know how to explain that word but sth sth like that 😔) so it's like she did it on purpose with that pose
Like a match basically
@@Karma-pq9fi ah yes yes, like that! Thank you! 💖
9:12 They absolutely forgot the effect for his leg boosters, that's why it looks like it can fly. The animator was thinking about this little rocket that enhances his power (you can see it in his ultimate) but I guess the effect lead forgot about it
I think game just have the effects turned off
I like that when Piper’s weapon slams down after the horizontal-then-downward strikes, her body bounces a bit (it more noticeable on her outer leg). The weight of the weapon and the force of those swings are SO good.
You need to make a third video where you go over the hidden animation changes for characters like Koleda+Ben, Jane's Passion State, etc.
For Nicole animations, whoever filmed them forgot to add her 2 secrets animations for her skill.
If press and hold her skill, then do a clockwise circle with the joystick (can do on Keyboard too by doing "D-S-A-W-D") Nicole will from her standing animation do a spin around and sit on the suitcase while covering her ears to have a more powerful (more damage) charged skill before firing the ether rocket and catching the suitcase on the recoil.
And if you do like before, spin joystick ( D-S-A-W-D for keyboard) and release hold on the skill button as you finish spinning the joystick (or as you finish pressing in combo D-S-A-W-D) she will also do the animation of spinning around the suitcase and sitting on it, but will "miss" and sit a bit sideways and fall on the floor while the suitcase loses control and shoots the ether rocket upwards which then lands on the enemies on a delayed way (good for dong quick swap combos), which feels like she's shooting a mortar on the enemies.
i don't know if other characters have hidden animations like this but it's a very nice touch for Nicole if anyone plays Nicole. It allows also to extend the invulnerability during the animation
I will keep saying it, this feels like a huge passion project and im here for it
The reason Jane Does moves are so solid and fluid is because she mentions she used to do figure skating
The nekomata shocked me. It felt like after the intro it was getting insane praise, i was 100% expecting S tier from the praise, to then become to new lowest was such shock.
Too bad you never looked at the Koleda combos with Ben, since she gets different animations.
Also Nicole's other skill animations, Soukaku's combo after flying her banner, Zhu Yuan's suppressive mode, and a bunch of other stuff.
Also Zhu Yuan's dodge interrupts and reflow after BA3, BA4 or BA5, QingYi's dodge counters mid-BA3, Anby's chain combos with different outcomes depending on BA1,2,3,(hold4),EX or BA1,2,3,(pause),4/EX, etc. It's crazy how many undocumented combos and tech inputs the devs put in the game for the players to experiment with and discover.
Anby gets SSS tier for her upside down t-pose wipeout screen.
There’re so many things you missed out in this video, like the perfect assist, parry, some characters’ EX skill. Like Anby’s perfect assist, that got the best animation, feels so good everytime I pull it off
Dude, i love finding talented people who are wicked smart. I'm going to enjoy being a new sub ❤ look forward to more
OOPS!! We forgot to include Koleda and Ben's ult in the edit! But I did watch it on stream and loved it. Partially why Koleda ranked so high in SS.
no, i don't forgot.
I have been waiting for this and one was not disappointed. Keep up the amazing work !!! ❤
14:41 Omg it’s such a shame that video didn’t show Koleda’s special alternative ult animation when Ben is in the team
Your two ZZZ videos have been excellent. ZZZ's style of animation is one of my favourite in gaming that I've seen but I'm a layman when it comes to animation so having someone really break down the animations and explain them so clearly is really cool because it lets me understand why I actually like them so much and you've taught me features and techniques I can identify in the animations. I've learnt I like the cutscene animations so much because of how willing the animators are to manipulate character anatomy by "stretching and squashing" models and by "breaking bones" to emphasise anticipation frames which creates a really bouncy and energetic style of animation. And I think the biggest thing about the combat animations for me is that while a lot of them are really impressive and flashy they've paid huge attention to momentum, centres of gravity, pivots, mass etc. which turns the animations from just crazy, super human, video game movements to movements that actually look like they are being performed by an actual human body with balance and weight who is actually wielding a giant hammer or a sectioned staff.
An detail with GyattSec:
Zhu is a beat officer and moves around a lot
Jane is more of a desk jockey so she has more….recoil
28:15 mechanical engineer here, centrifugal force isn't a real force. That kick gives the axe more kinetic energy and increases the radius of the arc more than anything, contributing to a whipping effect to increase impact strength like a sledgehammer. Objects have a standard inertia from their mass when moving in a straight line, and there's a rotational equivalent called "moment of inertia", which is related to mass x radius-squared. The further the mass is from the pivot, the more it resists angular acceleration. The swing starts closer to the body so it's easier to start, then the kick increases the radius, giving more moment of inertia to invest energy in. "Centrifugal" force is not in the direction of the swing, so it doesn't really contribute directly.
This also means the "spin speed" doesn't actually increase, at least the angular rotation speed. It would actually probably decrease, but the tangential velocity of the blade would increase because it's further out.
Ye basically what he meant :3 the point to take from his vid I think is how creative her kick is for what the next movement is going to be
Not gonna lie, been really burned out with animating after the fustercluck that was college, but seeing this breakdown vidya and the previous one on the Cinematics has me wanting to go out there and take a stab at making something fun again.
It's always the RWBY guys, I swear. First Monty getting me interested at first, then Goo sort of reigniting it.
Perhaps you saw it on stream, but there are many more intricate animations hidden with the characters.
For example, all characters have a unique stopping animation (Corin will stop short on one foot, and wave her free arm to maintain balance, so cute!), and most recovery animations are different depending on where you stop a character's combo (Piper will sometimes kick her hammer-axe back into her idle pose).
5:33 That girl's got a nailgun that looks like it was designed by KRISS.
Yep, I was like, "girl, that ain't a nailgun, that's a Vector".
Koleda even has some alternate combat animation when Ben is in the team.
They then start doing some serious tag team shit, like Koleda jumping in the air, then Ben comes in whacking his concrete bar and Koleda hitting the bar from the top - just amazing and I hope Hoyoverse will introduce some more of these interactions with characters from the same faction
0:53 this is the reason why I love this game's animations so much
No motherfucking way you timestamped him saying ass
i love these videos omg its so interesting to hear him talk about these animation techniques
5:09 something i’d like to see in future animation analysis / explanation videos like this is a clip of what dillon explained after he finishes explaining it.
having a replay of the animation with the half-way catch grenade (what dillon was explaining) right after he finishes explaining / pointing it out would have been nice
that way we don’t have to go back and find the point where the animation is shown, esp when dillon explains for much longer than the animation duration :3
i feel this mainly applies to parts where he’s **observing** what really happens
it’s not needed when he’s saying what he wished happened as he does visual drawings with red pen
e.x. dillon’s reaction to animation -> dillon points things out, explains why they’re good, bad, etc. -> replay of said animation
edit: same goes for when dillon explains nekomata’s non-blinking and billy’s overstep!!
i didn’t notice those small details until he pointed them out and explained them, and i wish i got to see them in action right after
One of the main reasons why i love jane doe soo much is the way they did her animation. It's sooo buttery smooth
Not sure if you watched them or not, but there are a ton of animations for other interactions with teammates and enemies as well. For example, a Defensive Assist vs a light attack and a heavy attack. Lucy's boars prop her up and she falls flat on top of them for the heavy parry assist. Or Ellen transfers impact into a weapon spin for light parry, and gets knocked back with her weapon planted into the ground for heavy parry. Koleda also has modified basic combos with Ben. Jane and Qingyi both have special dash-stopping animations too. Etc.
I'm learning so much from Goo's videos, it's insane how informative they are for animators.
16:55 I don't think that making Soldier 11's eyes pop really works for who she is. Soldier 11 is, above all else, a weapon. She really doesn't have a personality. Her eyes being obscured in her ultimate animation isn't really bad for her because she is dehumanized and she is at the point where she is most inhuman.
I've been flabbergasted by the level of animation this game offers and I have been waiting for you to cover it, it's just so peakkkk !
Squash and stretch. I love how the animations pop in this game.
You have made me appreciate zzz wayyyyy more now, thank you
best part about anton is his va cyu. before they announced/confirmed vas for this game everyone knew who voiced anton and thus he becomes hoyos worst kept secret
zzz is visually just so amazing. also sounds so amazing too.
12:43 bruh, you had so much to point out and criticize on Lycaon and Grace, and Nekomata only the intro thing which should not count that much weight imo to begin with and put her in B!? B!!! do you hate Cats?
Jane doe also has the most creative standing pose and walk cycle. She hooks her thumbs into loops on her jacket which gives her the most unmistakable "rodent" feel.
well actually 8:35 is very close to a pose of french boxing where you ready a sidekick to have more power and stability. You are taught not to stay on your toes and have your torso more straight and vertical when you do it to be more rigid, but with it's robotic legs it still works well and the vertical torso would probably make the pose less clear from the back.
What's interesting is that his sidekicks are the only poses reminiscent of french boxing to me, mostly because he doesn't arm his other kicks, but he keeps the vibes of control and technicality from french boxing. I thinks it's because he seems to never "overshoots" with his momentum even if the moves are exageratted.
And I love the french boxing references, it seems to be almost non-existant outside of France but it's a very thechnical fighting sport and can be beautiful when you chain kicks together (from my very biased opinion)
great vid, really cool to see it all broken down. A little sad we didn't get to see their Specials and assists though as some of them have superb style (look forward to seeing that vid if you make it 👀)
He about to be baited into anby-soldier lore
Congrats on 100k subscribers! I love ZZZ, I was waiting for you to rate the animations 🩷
As a Corin main seeing her in SS is amazing
I verbally whispered a "Hell yeah!" when he put her there.
Her animations and gameplay feel so satisfying to me.
He would have liked it even more if he saw how satisfying her ex is to shred enemies with.
The sfx is really good for her pizza cutter.
I agree so much about Soldier 11's ultimate, we barely see her emotions in that, while Anby's one filled with so much emotion and was screaming like "Hey dude, I'm referencing your favourite Metal Gear Rising title screen!"
As much as i love ur list but some of them are not at their full potential sadly.i think you should give score base on all animation such charge attacks,secret moves and dash attack..etc also parry
Yesss! I've been waiting for this video!
Did you see Anton’s enhanced basic attacks? That’s the real meat of his kit.
This is such a horrid video 😭😭didn’t even watch half of their kits
@@turothescrub6830he watched a lot more animations on stream, this is a cut down version
@@turothescrub6830 Well that’s pretty hyperbolic…
@@gmoney9469i mean, its fair though, he missed half of Zhu’s kit, he missed half of ben’d kit. He missed a lot of animations on each character, he even missed Koleda’s ability and her working together with Ben.
Dude I love those drilling attacks lmao, especially the chants he shout. Truly the reason why I played him.
I just LOVE seeing you gawk at this animations the same way i do, even if I'm not a animator myself
Fun fact: Everyone in Victoria are themed after old monsters!
Corrin is Frankenstein Monster, Von Lycaon is a werewolf, Ellen is Jaws, and Rina is a ghost! (I love Rina and Ellen so much)
There's also a 5th member hinted at in Lycaon's agent story. They're a vampire.
@@smward87please be a dude please be a dude
@@20one55 It is.
@@smward87 huzzah as long as he is a tall male my crops are watered my skin is clear and my empire flourishing
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Its worth mentioning that koleda has an extra attack and a different ult if you use with ben
Nicole already got an S so it doesn't matter, but she has a neat alternate skill animation if you do a circle with the directional inputs, and then ANOTHER if you interrupt the charge early. Pretty crazy for a free A-rank character.
"He's so much cooler than Jaune!" . . . I mean it's not exactly a high bar to beat, lmfao.
LMAO NOTTHE SETH AND JAUEN COMPARISON HELPPPPP
One fun thing about Koleda is that some of her animations actually change if Ben is in the party, where he'll tag in at the end of her main combo to add extra impact, as well as join in on her Ult for a totally different animation. It's super fun, and I think completely unique to her currently.
Bro used leaked footage in a sponsored video Gigachad
Wait omg he does lmaooo
This is fun. I like seeing all the good and the bad and the 'OH MY GOD'
Piper❌
Sleepy short female itto✅
16:56 Yeah, I totally agree. That's why one of the best mods to use with her is clearing her goggles a little bit more to be able to see her eyes better. Or even removing it completely for dialogue scenes.
I'm honestly a little sad that there was no mention or analysis of Ellen's sprinting animation. That was by far one of the most visually impressive things for me in 1.0, the way Ellen has that circling-shark feel when she sprints around.
It's like somebody watched all those awesome stick figure fights of the last ten years and then put some meat on their bones.