What I love about Mephalis is that he wastes no time using his fatal laser beam move upon being awakened, the same one he used to kill sonic in 06 during the last story. He was so ready to just kill and be free
Mephiles is easily the best one. I hope he comes back somehow. Possibly with the mentioned Sonic 06 remake. Mephiles is the best villain in the Sonic series.
@@masturch33f66Pretty decent except for the Mach speed sections and I skipped the ball puzzle using a bug, level design is good but the controls aren’t that great, there are some bugs that either help or are just funny, and it was fun overall (just remember to mash A/X for Silver and Omega since holding the button is less efficient)
@@Ghostmnm I was considering getting 06 since I love the aesthetic, music and story of the game. Obviously 06 is infamous for being horrible but I heard people over exaggerated the glitches. Do you think it’s worth getting?
Honestly I feel like Mephiles and Devil Doom could easily switch places, NGL. The doom morph section was kinda difficult to get the hang of but once i got the hang of it, i found out you could practically skip a good chunk of the platforming in devil doom phase 2, always satisfying to do
The best part about boss fights is seeing how flexible or how you can experiment with them (a good example of this is Kraid from Metroid Dread) and to add on to Mephiles already being a good boss fight, he is that experimental boss, during the phase where he turns into the giant shadow monster, you can use Chaos Control to avoid the laser entirely and still hit him, then rinse repeat. It’s a really fun boss fight.
I wish you had elaborated on your process for ranking these bosses, particularly how you approached the hard modes for each one. Although I understand that in Sonic Generations, the hard modes don't dramatically alter the gameplay experience, it would have been interesting to hear your perspective. Nevertheless, I found your video to be really enjoyable, and I agree with most, if not all, of your placements for the bosses. Having played the Sonic 06 on the PS3, I can confidently say that I strongly agree with your assessment that Mephiles stands out as one of the best bosses featured in Sonic Generations. His design and mechanics truly make him memorable.
I just played all of them a few times and wrote down the things that stood out to me. I haven't tried the hard mode for Shadow Generations yet so maybe that's for another video. Thanks for the compliments!
0:20 It's actually crazy to see Aidan there in this video. I really like seeing his content, so seeing him was a big surprise. I'm all about it though!
"you look familiar" Yes Shadow it is I- "not." Grrr I was a god of destruction in my complete form! I AM MEFILIS! "god of destruction? that's only two tiers beneath the ultimate life form and one tier beneath an annoying blue hedgehog" As Solaris I ScORCHED TIME SPAcE! "Scorched huh? that explains why you look like a crusty version of me"
Ngl all the shadow generations bosses besides the biolizard fights are better for me. The only sonic generations boss I actually enjoy doing is the dragoon one. But the rest of the shadow generations boss's i actually enjoy replaying
Anyone else wish they brought the generations 3ds bosses to sonic x shadow generations? It would've been cool to see big arms and egg emperor in the console version
Personally, I agree, only I think the best Sonic Generations boss is Metal Sonic. Silver being close behind, but neither surpassing any of the Shadow generations bosses (especially not Mephiles that fight is so fun even though the doom morph is my least favorite ability in the game) but they’re fun. I’m not a real big fan of any Sonic generations bosses aside from Metal Sonic and Silver honestly
It's wild how the 3DS version of the Time Eater was somehow better than the console version, which was an absolute disaster of a level with its sluggish controls and how hard rings are to see, and they didn't even improve it in the remaster. I certainly want to see more of what Shadow Generations was doing because it was light years ahead of so many other Sonic games in terms of how well it was designed and how good the mobility handled, and that's not even mentioning the spectacles of the bosses.
I would've switched the 2 Biolizards, the 3DS one was basically on par with SA2, that's shit's good, the arms on the other hand while looking cool literally waste time, and in Hard Mode, if you ever get hit ONCE other than the more likely death, the S Rank is gone, sooo imagine learning not gameplay mechanics but full on GIMMICKS used just once how bullshit that is...
Honestly, the Generation bosses hard mode feels like what all the boss should have been to begin with except maybe Chaos and Overload. Even Time Eater feels significantly easier this way.
How is it fair for Sonic to boost through an entire stage, but it's not fair when Silver tries to keep up with him by teleporting, on the 3DS version? Sonic knows Silver can't boost, and Silver tries to be fair by running at the start of the stage, but Sonic decideds to boost instead of running at normal speed like Silver, so that makes Sonic a cheater as well. 🙄
Metal sonic was my least favourite fight in shadow gens and honestly one of my least favourite fights out of the whole list. He was fun casually, but the hard mode S rank was such a nightmare. The fight is so easy for most of it and so unfair in a few parts that come later on in the fight. It forces so many resets and is one of my least favourite S ranks in any sonic boss
@ the S rank specifically is a nightmare, the boss itself isn’t even much harder, literally all they did was add in time consuming bs to the fight to make the S rank extremely tight and unforgiving
I never played any of the first Sonic Generations versions, so the one with Shadow Generation was my first (but I've seen a bunch of videos). For the most parr I was fine with the bosses in Sonic Generations, but I agree the Shadow rival battle isn't all that exciting. And Time Eater... well, at least now I know it has a homing shot attack! They only needed to tell me about 200 times for me to understand. For real tho, it's probably one of the most boring final bosses I've ever fought. I really wished they used the 3DS fight. Perfect Chaos was kinda mediocre for me to be honest. Egg Dragoon was fine but he just used his ice shots for like 80% of the time when I fought him, got old pretty quickly. About the Shadow Generations bosses, I'm a bit torn. On one side I think they're all spectacular and cool but I gotts be honest, I do not like the Doom Surf sections. When you try to do multiple actions in sequence, it just doean't work properly and it drove me quite mad during the Metal Overlord fight, which is also a bitch to get S rank on. I'd love the fight much more if Doom Surf didn't control like shit. For the same reason I also wasn't the biggest fan of Devil Doom, with some of his later attacks being really obnoxious to dodge, paired with the drifty Wing controls. I just wished you were able to use Shadow's normal moveset more during bossfights and not be forced to use Doom Surf / Wings. On the other hand I really loved the other 2 bosses here, Mephiles also being my favourite. I think they're over a bit too quick but that's not a big issue. Anyways I'll stop rambling now
you know I agree with almost this whole list except for the mephiles boss at number one I don’t really agree with that only because I’m not that big of a mephiles guy I would’ve put him in five on my list great boss still on my top five though and again I’m just not a mephiles fanboy personally metal overlord is my favorite boss in shadow generations and perfect chaos Is my favorite boss in sonic generations and I understand people got their own opinions and that’s OK😊
I don’t really get the love for the metal overlord fight. I’m not saying it was bad, far from it in fact, but I think it was the weakest of the boss fights in shadow gens.
@@HaydenPrometheus45 not really, it was really just hitting the left and right bumpers. And sometimes jumping, bout the same difficulty as any other fight.
@sonicsupremacist true be t that goes for many classic fights you can keep bouncing on them untill they go down and win like in chemical plant or hilltop zone the only really hard boss was the death egg cause his hit boxes.
The only complaint that I have about Mephiles in Sonic x Shadow generations is his voice. Look the guy tried his best and I have nothing against him but, his performance makes Mephiles sound too high pitched, Dan Green was better. I don't understand why they brought back the guy who voiced Black Doom back but didn't bring Dan Green back. Other than that I have nothing against Mephiles' boss fight even though it's kind of sad that we probably won't ever see him again, plus, I always thought that the thing with Sonic and the others not remembering anything about 06 is bulls*** because the events in 06 (except for the romance between Sonic and Elise because screw that! Yuck!) DID happen weather we like it or not, so to say that the events on 06 never happened is stupid in my opinion. Sure the game was garbage but, come on, Shadow was at his best and Mephiles is a great villain and stuff. It's ridiculous that people are STILL complaining about 06 DESPITE THAT THAT GAME WAS RELEASED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO! Besides, I think that Sonic Forces is just as s***** if not even worse than 06. Sorry for my rant but, I couldn't resist talking about this because Mephiles made me think about this. All of this has been my opinion and you don't have to agree. Again, sorry for my rant and sorry for my long comment. 😅
I thought he sounded too different as well at first, but I really like some of his lines. At the end of Sonic 06 they erased the events of the game though by blowing out the flame, so that's why no one remembers anything. I don't think it has anything to do with the quality of the game.
@@sonicsupremacist I understand why you can like some of his lines in SXSHG. I know, I know, I already know about the flame thing, I just don't like that, they literally went through all of that crud just to forget about everything. I don't like that one bit, because then people have gone through all of that glitchy mess for almost nothing. I think that that makes the game worse than what it already is but, oh well, it's your opinion and that's okay.
Tbh mephilis is probably my least favorite shadow gens boss,my issues with it stem from it being way too easy, even in hardmode, the first attack never hits you, the second attack gives way too much time to use doom spear, even more time than you get for biolozard's semifinal attack, the pillars are a joke, the shockwaves are tiny and way too slow, and then you can just fling up there with doom morph, and after that you basically win, the giant part WOULD be hard if not for the fact that you can just spam chaos control every time he pops out due to him filling your meter entirely on hit, and the last one isn't even really an attack
Metal overlord is one of the lamest bosses in this game. All the directions they could've taken it and its a simple gimmick fight that gets redone better later on.
What I love about Mephalis is that he wastes no time using his fatal laser beam move upon being awakened, the same one he used to kill sonic in 06 during the last story. He was so ready to just kill and be free
Agreed
He used the move that kills sonic, unfortunately for him it wasn't sonic
@ yup 😂
As a person who’s never played 06 or known much about mephiles, I can say he had at least a top 2 best boss fight in the whole game
bro metal overlord is underrated its genuinely so fun
Yeah, it's great
Mephiles is easily the best one. I hope he comes back somehow. Possibly with the mentioned Sonic 06 remake. Mephiles is the best villain in the Sonic series.
The Mephiles fight literally was the reason I bought Sonic 06 in 2024 just to see more of him
How is Sonic 06 honestly
@@masturch33f66Pretty decent except for the Mach speed sections and I skipped the ball puzzle using a bug, level design is good but the controls aren’t that great, there are some bugs that either help or are just funny, and it was fun overall (just remember to mash A/X for Silver and Omega since holding the button is less efficient)
@Ghostmnm there are rumors about them wanting to do a remake of 06.
@ hope so, just hope they keep sonic’s gem gauge not going down
@@Ghostmnm I was considering getting 06 since I love the aesthetic, music and story of the game. Obviously 06 is infamous for being horrible but I heard people over exaggerated the glitches. Do you think it’s worth getting?
Honestly I feel like Mephiles and Devil Doom could easily switch places, NGL. The doom morph section was kinda difficult to get the hang of but once i got the hang of it, i found out you could practically skip a good chunk of the platforming in devil doom phase 2, always satisfying to do
Yeah, it actually require skill which I like
The best part about boss fights is seeing how flexible or how you can experiment with them (a good example of this is Kraid from Metroid Dread) and to add on to Mephiles already being a good boss fight, he is that experimental boss, during the phase where he turns into the giant shadow monster, you can use Chaos Control to avoid the laser entirely and still hit him, then rinse repeat. It’s a really fun boss fight.
I wish you had elaborated on your process for ranking these bosses, particularly how you approached the hard modes for each one. Although I understand that in Sonic Generations, the hard modes don't dramatically alter the gameplay experience, it would have been interesting to hear your perspective. Nevertheless, I found your video to be really enjoyable, and I agree with most, if not all, of your placements for the bosses. Having played the Sonic 06 on the PS3, I can confidently say that I strongly agree with your assessment that Mephiles stands out as one of the best bosses featured in Sonic Generations. His design and mechanics truly make him memorable.
I just played all of them a few times and wrote down the things that stood out to me. I haven't tried the hard mode for Shadow Generations yet so maybe that's for another video. Thanks for the compliments!
0:20 It's actually crazy to see Aidan there in this video. I really like seeing his content, so seeing him was a big surprise. I'm all about it though!
Call me crazy, but the Time Eater is actually my second favorite boss just behind Devil Doom.
Damn, how so?
@@sonicsupremacist I guess I just love the music. I also didn't mind all the voice lines.
"you look familiar"
Yes Shadow it is I-
"not."
Grrr I was a god of destruction in my complete form! I AM MEFILIS!
"god of destruction? that's only two tiers beneath the ultimate life form and one tier beneath an annoying blue hedgehog"
As Solaris I ScORCHED TIME SPAcE!
"Scorched huh? that explains why you look like a crusty version of me"
Ngl all the shadow generations bosses besides the biolizard fights are better for me. The only sonic generations boss I actually enjoy doing is the dragoon one. But the rest of the shadow generations boss's i actually enjoy replaying
1:51 “ooo… bad wordplay…”
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3:37 my first time doing this boss took me like 30 minutes because while I didn’t lose, he wasn’t either, I am a skill issue 💀
Lol, I used to struggle on that boss as well
Anyone else wish they brought the generations 3ds bosses to sonic x shadow generations? It would've been cool to see big arms and egg emperor in the console version
Yeah, that would've been cool
Mephiles is my favorite boss in this game too! I am so happy my favorite villain came back
Mythic Storm King Cameo
That fight is bullshit hard and it's great
Personally, I agree, only I think the best Sonic Generations boss is Metal Sonic. Silver being close behind, but neither surpassing any of the Shadow generations bosses (especially not Mephiles that fight is so fun even though the doom morph is my least favorite ability in the game) but they’re fun. I’m not a real big fan of any Sonic generations bosses aside from Metal Sonic and Silver honestly
It's wild how the 3DS version of the Time Eater was somehow better than the console version, which was an absolute disaster of a level with its sluggish controls and how hard rings are to see, and they didn't even improve it in the remaster. I certainly want to see more of what Shadow Generations was doing because it was light years ahead of so many other Sonic games in terms of how well it was designed and how good the mobility handled, and that's not even mentioning the spectacles of the bosses.
I would've switched the 2 Biolizards, the 3DS one was basically on par with SA2, that's shit's good, the arms on the other hand while looking cool literally waste time, and in Hard Mode, if you ever get hit ONCE other than the more likely death, the S Rank is gone, sooo imagine learning not gameplay mechanics but full on GIMMICKS used just once how bullshit that is...
i agree with the rest but metal overlord is my number one
Hard mode specifically
Honestly, the Generation bosses hard mode feels like what all the boss should have been to begin with except maybe Chaos and Overload.
Even Time Eater feels significantly easier this way.
How is it fair for Sonic to boost through an entire stage, but it's not fair when Silver tries to keep up with him by teleporting, on the 3DS version? Sonic knows Silver can't boost, and Silver tries to be fair by running at the start of the stage, but Sonic decideds to boost instead of running at normal speed like Silver, so that makes Sonic a cheater as well. 🙄
Metal Overlord’s battle was peak
Sega please just let mephiles exist 😭🙏
I think there's a good chance this is the last time we see him unfortunately
Your list is great but i disagree with you i would put shadow above metal and silver above egg dragon and metal overlord over devil doom
Nah that’s way too far
Shadow boss fight is just forces level design
My only problem with the egg dragon is that it dose everything the original did but slightly worse
Perfect chaos is scary
Ok I'll say this when I fought Mephiles it was easy for me and I don't find it as fun but hey it's your video
I also think other bosses are better in terms of gameplay, but Mephiles tops those for me because of the spectacle.
@sonicsupremacist I get it especially on hard mode gave a thriller upgrade but On the second phase it became annoying to me
Metal sonic was my least favourite fight in shadow gens and honestly one of my least favourite fights out of the whole list. He was fun casually, but the hard mode S rank was such a nightmare. The fight is so easy for most of it and so unfair in a few parts that come later on in the fight. It forces so many resets and is one of my least favourite S ranks in any sonic boss
Damn, I haven't tried the hard mode yet. I didn't know it was so difficult
@ the S rank specifically is a nightmare, the boss itself isn’t even much harder, literally all they did was add in time consuming bs to the fight to make the S rank extremely tight and unforgiving
Personally I’d probably put both DD somewhat lower and perfect chaos bottom 5 for the same reasons as the 3Ds rivals.
2:10 the only enemy is time. The pun is great but every Super Sonic boss fight, Time is the enemy more than the attacks
True, time is always the enemy
I never played any of the first Sonic Generations versions, so the one with Shadow Generation was my first (but I've seen a bunch of videos).
For the most parr I was fine with the bosses in Sonic Generations, but I agree the Shadow rival battle isn't all that exciting. And Time Eater... well, at least now I know it has a homing shot attack! They only needed to tell me about 200 times for me to understand.
For real tho, it's probably one of the most boring final bosses I've ever fought. I really wished they used the 3DS fight.
Perfect Chaos was kinda mediocre for me to be honest. Egg Dragoon was fine but he just used his ice shots for like 80% of the time when I fought him, got old pretty quickly.
About the Shadow Generations bosses, I'm a bit torn. On one side I think they're all spectacular and cool but I gotts be honest, I do not like the Doom Surf sections. When you try to do multiple actions in sequence, it just doean't work properly and it drove me quite mad during the Metal Overlord fight, which is also a bitch to get S rank on. I'd love the fight much more if Doom Surf didn't control like shit.
For the same reason I also wasn't the biggest fan of Devil Doom, with some of his later attacks being really obnoxious to dodge, paired with the drifty Wing controls.
I just wished you were able to use Shadow's normal moveset more during bossfights and not be forced to use Doom Surf / Wings.
On the other hand I really loved the other 2 bosses here, Mephiles also being my favourite. I think they're over a bit too quick but that's not a big issue.
Anyways I'll stop rambling now
Great ranking but time eater was very hard when i was a kid 😂😂
Lol, makes sense. I couldn't get past crisis city as a kid so I didn't even reach the time eater.
@ Crisis City was the Horror together with planet wisp
Goated list dude
you know I agree with almost this whole list except for the mephiles boss at number one I don’t really agree with that only because I’m not that big of a mephiles guy I would’ve put him in five on my list great boss still on my top five though and again I’m just not a mephiles fanboy personally metal overlord is my favorite boss in shadow generations and perfect chaos Is my favorite boss in sonic generations and I understand people got their own opinions and that’s OK😊
I don’t really get the love for the metal overlord fight. I’m not saying it was bad, far from it in fact, but I think it was the weakest of the boss fights in shadow gens.
@@JackJQCit’s one of the hardest
@@HaydenPrometheus45 not really, it was really just hitting the left and right bumpers. And sometimes jumping, bout the same difficulty as any other fight.
@ I mean to get the S-rank
@ that is fair.
Is there really more than one bad boss fight across the 3 versions of this game.
Tierlist link?
Which tier list lol?
I know this man did not just say the first boss is too easy SMH
Lol true the first boss should be easier, but it still makes it more boring in this case.
@sonicsupremacist true be t that goes for many classic fights you can keep bouncing on them untill they go down and win like in chemical plant or hilltop zone the only really hard boss was the death egg cause his hit boxes.
The only complaint that I have about Mephiles in Sonic x Shadow generations is his voice. Look the guy tried his best and I have nothing against him but, his performance makes Mephiles sound too high pitched, Dan Green was better. I don't understand why they brought back the guy who voiced Black Doom back but didn't bring Dan Green back. Other than that I have nothing against Mephiles' boss fight even though it's kind of sad that we probably won't ever see him again, plus, I always thought that the thing with Sonic and the others not remembering anything about 06 is bulls*** because the events in 06 (except for the romance between Sonic and Elise because screw that! Yuck!) DID happen weather we like it or not, so to say that the events on 06 never happened is stupid in my opinion. Sure the game was garbage but, come on, Shadow was at his best and Mephiles is a great villain and stuff. It's ridiculous that people are STILL complaining about 06 DESPITE THAT THAT GAME WAS RELEASED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO! Besides, I think that Sonic Forces is just as s***** if not even worse than 06. Sorry for my rant but, I couldn't resist talking about this because Mephiles made me think about this. All of this has been my opinion and you don't have to agree. Again, sorry for my rant and sorry for my long comment. 😅
I thought he sounded too different as well at first, but I really like some of his lines. At the end of Sonic 06 they erased the events of the game though by blowing out the flame, so that's why no one remembers anything. I don't think it has anything to do with the quality of the game.
@@sonicsupremacist I understand why you can like some of his lines in SXSHG. I know, I know, I already know about the flame thing, I just don't like that, they literally went through all of that crud just to forget about everything. I don't like that one bit, because then people have gone through all of that glitchy mess for almost nothing. I think that that makes the game worse than what it already is but, oh well, it's your opinion and that's okay.
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I disagree with how high egg dragoon is. Its too long and repetitive imo.
That's understandable, I was glazing it mostly because of the design tbh
@@sonicsupremacist I mean, that's me with the Egg Emperor, so totally fair
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Tbh mephilis is probably my least favorite shadow gens boss,my issues with it stem from it being way too easy, even in hardmode, the first attack never hits you, the second attack gives way too much time to use doom spear, even more time than you get for biolozard's semifinal attack, the pillars are a joke, the shockwaves are tiny and way too slow, and then you can just fling up there with doom morph, and after that you basically win, the giant part WOULD be hard if not for the fact that you can just spam chaos control every time he pops out due to him filling your meter entirely on hit, and the last one isn't even really an attack
Yeah, that's a fair point. It would be even cooler if it was more difficult, and it would make Mephiles more intimidating.
Metal overlord is one of the lamest bosses in this game. All the directions they could've taken it and its a simple gimmick fight that gets redone better later on.
Yeah, I can see why people don't like it. It focuses a lot on one gimmick, but it's a fun gimmick in my opinion