Very clear and informative! So let's say an energy company, such as British gas, wanted to install a smart gas meter in a residence and asked you to provide an update for the service pipe energy value, SPEV, for the residence beforehand: (a) Would you go through this same procedure using the diversity chart? (b) What sort of documentation/form would an energy company expect from you as a gas safe engineer?
Corrosive atmosphere? Recently had a meter installed in the cellar of an old terraced property, a common enough type of installation you come across all the time. I was there to do a landlords inspection, I found a gas leak coming from the gas meter case where condensate water had eaton through it. This cellar was dripping with condensation all the time according to the tenant, contacted the gas supplier who just came out and replaced the meter in the same location.
Hi Derek, I completely agree with your comment that gas meters shouldn't be installed under kitchen sinks. However, I raised this issue with Gas Safe following an incident, and they confirmed that no regulations explicitly prohibit the installation of gas meters in that location. They stated that a gas meter should not be placed under a kitchen sink only if the environment is proven to be damp and mouldy. I can email Gas Safe's response to you if you'd like, but I fully agree with your perspective.
My name is Dian Pelangi from Jakarta in Indonesia, I am a fashion designer and I want to use this media to tell everyone to be careful about getting loans on the internet, so many lenders here are fraudsters and they are here. tricking you with your hard-earned money, I applied for a loan for around Rp900,000,000 women in Malaysia and I lost around 29 million without taking a loan, I paid almost 29 million still I didn't get a loan and my business was about crashing because of debt. When I searched for a reliable private loan company, I saw another online advertisement and the name of the company was THE WORLD LOAN COMPANY. I lost 15 million with them and to this day, I have never received the loan I proposed. Dear God, my friends who applied for loans also received the loans, introducing me to a trustworthy company where Mrs. Christabel worked as a branch manager, and I applied for a loan of Rp900,000,000 and they asked for my credentials, and after that they finished verifying my details, the loan was approved for me and I thought it was just a joke, and maybe this was one of the cheats that made I lost money, but I was stunned. When I get my loan in less than 6 hours with a low interest rate of 2% without collateral I am very happy that God used my friend who contacted them and introduced me to them and because I survived making my business soar high in the air and liquidated and now my business is flying high in Indonesia and no one will say it. know about fashion companies. So I suggest all people who live in Indonesia and other countries who need loans for one purpose or another to contact christabel mother via email: christabelloancompany@gmail.com You can also contact me at my email: (lianmeylady@gmail.com) and Sety introduces and talks about christabel, she also gets a new loan from christabel, you can also contact her via her email: permatabudiwati@gmail.com Now, all who will I do is try to fulfill loan payments that I send directly to their account every month. A word for wise men is enough Thank you once again for reading my testimony, and may the Lord continue to bless us and give us a long life and a prosperous life and may God do the same good work in your life. Good mother Christabel Missan What'sApp number +15614916019
Another real good video especially the area you talked about the surface mounted meter box being damaged (At Risk under IGEM/G11) and earth bonding. Thanks Derek. Trainee at tomkat gas training center..
Thank you for this excellent video on gas meters if you found a gas meter already installed under a kitchen sink what procedure would you carry out please
Super Video Derek. Question . Regards the meter ECV what's AR in none emergency situation ? then ID in emergency situation Thanks for the graft doing these videos tons of useful info on this one.
Ive got a little question i am currently doing my training, if you attend a job and tightness test and it drops, you then carry out all your tracing tests and this leads back to the meter. You then installing a sealing disc and confirm meter is leaking. Do you contact emergency number or the customers gas supplier to repair/or replace meter? Thanks
seems to be some debate about which side of the spigot gets sealed up with flue jointing compound. some say to seal the meter cupboard side, some say to seal the property side, and others say both. what's your take on it?
We are not allowed any drop on any pipework (old or new) for any reason, smell of gas or no smell of gas, we need to prove that its the appliance that is passing, IGEM/UP/1B edition 3, p.19.
@@tomkatgastraining Actually you give the impression that as long as there are appliances attached then its ok to have a permissible drop, its not ok unless we can prove its on an appliance by disking the outlet of the meter and proving that its not the meter and by isolating the appliances and proving its not on the pipework.
@@MSKChess I don’t give the impression I state what the regulations say. Yes you are correct in what you are saying and I train my trainees to isolate the appliances when looking for leaks to find out if it’s the appliances or the pipe work. The video is about gas meters though and I was explaining that the meter is part of the process of permissible drop. Thanks for watching and your comment
Hi, thanks for the vid. Who could tenants direct queries about gas meters to? I’ve used expanding foam to seal the hole where the green/yellow wire goes through the wall and I want to know if it’s now a risk
I am a master E1 license electrician and have been doing this since 2006. I have never bonded a gas meter simply because I never ran into it. I have no idea how to bond a gas meter properly LOL. I appreciate your video but it really didn't show me or tell me how to do it. There is not one video out on the internet that shows from beginning to end the process of having to bond a gas meter to the grounding electrode conductor from start to finish. I'm talking about the size of the clamps the size of the grounding wire that metallic label the yellow striped with green copper conductor. Maybe you can be the first to make this video
Thanks for your comment and I am guessing you are from USA which I guess has different laws to us in England so me doing a video about it probably won’t help you.
@@theseattlegreen1871I don't understand what's so complicated. He did give the gauge of wire required, just didn't say it in freedom units, he used metric (mm²). The clamp would obviously be a pipe bonding clamp for steel/iron pipe, same as one would use for water pipes. The funky colors are a weird European thing, can't help you there 🤷♂️
My mother's gas meter has just been fitted with a new regulator by Cadent gas after the boiler engineer issued a danger do not use certificate as he had recorded low pressure on the system. The gas meter is situated under the kitchen sink and as per your video, this is not to current standards. the gas meter has been there since at least 1980 if not before. Should the gas meter be relocated and at whose cost would this be?
Hi derek, hopefully you have time to help clear this up for me, Been to a flat to do a landlord check, found the newish boiler to be enclosed in an accessible stud tiled void built onto the external wall this enclosure also has an old gas meter inside, both the boiler and meter is accessible via the bathroom on the same wall as the bath/shower.. would the gas meter be in a NCS situation? And also would this installation be classed as within zone1 of the bath/shower. Im thinking because its enclosed perhaps its now not within any zone in that bathroom? Any help would be great as not come across this scenario before thanks and love the videos
Hello, I'm doing the interior architecture designs and basically asking for help. I'm listening to your video. So an electrical consumer unit can be as close as 150mm? If the meter is in a wall cabinet with a removable back. Would this cause issues with obstruction and delaying access to the emergency shut off valve? Thanks Aaron
I work for a utility company that is planning to replace the gas supply to a block of flats, the plan is to abandon the old internal riser and replace it with an external steel riser which will branch off into each flat. The planned location for the new ECVs is in the kitchen cupboards under the sink which would obviously mean that the meter would also have to be relocated into the same cupboard. Am I understanding you correctly that this is not allowed?
If you read the British standards it tells you the locations not to use and they class under the sink as I place not to use because of cleaning chemicals. In this situation it would be better to install the meters at ground level in meter boxes and put AECV into the flat. I have never come across a supply who would put the meter in that location but there’s always a first time
@@tomkatgastraining Used to fit gas meters for MacAlpines/British gas and Enterprise/National grid and one of the most common internal siting up in West Yorkshire is in the cupboard under the sink lol
Do the Gas inlet and out let pipes to the meter need rubber rings? I see one by the meter but don't know if they belong to either one of the pipes? Or do they not belong on a meter?
Thanks Derek, I've My Acs in next 6 weeks. I'm more confident in the practical bit, but more nervous about the theory and paper questions. Apart from reading a books, what's your advice regarding the theory? Thanks
@@tomkatgastraininglol, No doubt about that ha, English being my Third language makes it difficult for me at the theory bit, slow reader. Any advice on that please? 🫣
So you can't have a meter in a food larder? Where I live the whole estate has them in the kitchen later? What is this classed as as its a new 9ne 9n me
Hi Derek Something not mentioned is shear bolts and washers. It’s my understanding you have to disconnect and remove a meter in order to solder new pipework in for example to a new appliance. Do these get in the way how are they removed? Do they need to be replaced afterwards? Thanks!
I think if you watch the video again I mentioned shear bolts and why they are needed. When removing the meter which I didn’t go through for obvious reasons the regulator and meter union don’t need to be removed. Thanks for watching cheers
How does my meter know which gas in the gas main is the one that I'm paying for? As my next door neighbour is connected to the same gas main in the street yet pays less for her gas? How can this be as there is only one gas pipe in the street. I know this as I saw them install the pipe in the road. Surely my next door neighbours gas must be different if she pays less, so how many gases are travelling in down the pipe and how does my meter know which one is mine and not my neighbours. If the gas is the same for both of us why am I paying more??
You are billed from the gas you use through your meter it make no odds how many are fed of the main. You can have a higher bill than next door because you are using more than them or you have a different supplier
@@tomkatgastraining what I am saying that every supplier pays exactly the same price for the gas they buy, it comes down the same pipe yet when it reaches the meter the price changes. Why?
@@tomkatgastraining in other words there are too many fingers grabbing a small pie. Don't come up with the saying that if it were all under one roof it would stifle competition that's a myth, as nearly all the UK's utilities are already owned by a few select companies who are now far too big to be taken down and stifling competition anyway. Same with transport system that along with utilities is foreign owned. Britain is finished as a global influencer. The Golden geese lay golden eggs for other people.
With the rise in gas prices is it possible to fit lpg direct to gas meter instead of from supplier? I want to cap their input and replace with lpg instead... Any advice?
Noooooooooooooo you will need a gas engineer with lpg qualifications to change all the appliances over if they can be and install a new system of gas supply
During a gas rate an imperial meter takes 38 seconds to complete 1 revolution. How many m3/h of gas has been burnt? (answer to 2 decimal points) Calotific Value is 1040 imperial and 10.76 metric?
@@aghasahib4703 you are correct with the 10.76 and that is the gross cv of natural gas but we don’t divide it by the kw we divide the amount of mega joules to give us the kw gross
I don't want a smart meter installed at my domestic property. Can one purchase their own U6 or G4 meter and get it installed by an independent qualified gas engineer?
@@tomkatgastraining I did. They won't install anything other than a smart meter. They are under pressure from OFGEM to meet targets to install them or risk a fine. That is why I asked if it's possible for me to purchase one and get it installed by an independent qualified gas engineer?
@@underdogunchained at the end of the day all a smart meter dose is tell you how much gas you are using and sends the readings to the supplier so they don’t have to send anyone around to read it .
@@tomkatgastraining I understand the selling point of convenience. I still do not want one. I want to own my own meter. Is it feasible to purchase one and get it installed?
The meter is owned by the gas suppliers and the meter box is the responsibility of the house owner so if the ECV, anaconda, regulator or meter needs replaced then the supplier picks up the bill but the box is the house owner’s problem
@@tomkatgastraining Kinda, You're correct in that the supplier is responsible for the gas meter, but it is owned by a Meter Asset Manager (National Grid Metering, SGN Metering and SMS are 3 examples) - otherwise you'd be looking at a meter change with every supplier change - which isn't feasible. The regulator and anaconda (they are a single assembly) are usually owned by the MAM as well. The service pipe and ECV are owned by the Gas Distribution Network (either Cadent, SGN, Wales & West Utilities, Northern Gas Networks or one of the plethora of IGTs) and the meter box is owned by the house owner.
I work for a smart metering company, the door and lock are the responsibility of the homeowner/landlord the easy bit. It gets tricky when the bracket is damaged, my company policy is we change the bracket, which I think is wrong however the regs state no operative shall drill a meter box other than the approved entry points. Because if it’s a inset meter box the gas supplier would need to remove the main service pipe to fit a new rear box. So should it be the supplier who repairs the box and not the meter operative??
Hi! I have a gas meter in my room in a cupboard and it kinda smells, is it detrimental to your health to smell gas? What are the risks? It's not a big leak since I had naked flames around that spot and nothing happened, but I can still smell it pretty bad in the cupboard and around it. Thank you
@@egzonmorina4162 yeah, I moved out of there recently, thanks! :)) I had someone come and take a look and they said it actually was a leak, but not enough to blow up, he tightened something up and the smell stopped.
Hi the g10 bkt, is that acceptable?, I’m currently on a new install with the same shelf type bkt, but the meter can still move on that?, transporter hasn’t attached it to the box and bg fitted the meter and they won’t attach it in place either as they won’t perforate the box🙄, the usual nonsense going on, any info appreciated cheers
@@tomkatgastraining you would do that at the meter though? And you would always need to access the meter when working on an appliance for gas rate etc?
If you suspect let by you can disconnected the regulator anaconda and apply ldf to ecv ?? But no where does it say apply temporary Continuity bond when carrying out this task, you only ever get told to fit bond on meter removal ,why is this ?surely your still breaking the potential earth path?
Because the earth is still connected if you have one. When you remove the meter or cut into the pipe down stream of the meter you will loose the earth. Also now we are using non contact voltage indicators before we do anything to show we have no stray electrical currents and it’s safe to touch also helps.
So much info on meters covered brilliantly in such a short period of time. Is lead lock only for domestic incoming water supply then? Great video Derek 👍🏻 Asian Jon. Training.
Hi Its zafar I m student of gas engineer course. I m confused with you fingers which you mantion. YOU said For g4 gives 6 cubic miter or 212 cubic feet? Same for u6 Same for e6 And g19 you said 60 cubic miter or 265 cubic feet. And that is allowed in domidtic gas. First HOW come 6 cubic miter is equal to 212 feet? If it's write than 1 cubic miter is equal to 35.33 cubic feet? And you said g10 60 cubic meter or 265 cubic feet So here 1 cubic meter is equal to 4 41 cubic feet? And also viper book says max gas voulal for domic is 16 meter cubic Can please some one explain to me. I will wait for answer
@@tomkatgastraining Okay HOW many cubic feets in 1 cubic meter? 6 cubic meter equel is 212 cubic feet And 16 cubic meter is equal to 265 cubic feets? 🤔😇🤔
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Just passed my first lot exams and I’m still watching your videos! Great stuff! 👍
Well done good luck with the rest 👍🏻
Thank you for going to so much trouble to produce this video, I found it extremely informative and interesting. Good work!
...another great video Derek, Well done and Kudos for all the hardwork you put in.
Mate your wicked
You have been a big help
I’m going to watch them all everyday
Has done so much god bless ya
I have seen meters under a kitchen sink a few times, in fact I had corgi inspection with one under sink.
Very informative
Good way of presentation
Covered range of gas meters to be found regularly
We've got lead at a job going to next week so thank you for the tips.
Another fantastic video! Derek you are a legend
"Now this one is a G4 gas meter" Shows picture of a U6 (hint it even says U6 on the meter itself). U6 meters can read in either cuft or m3.
An excellent lecture about gas meter and safety measures related with it 👍 sir chairs
Very clear and informative! So let's say an energy company, such as British gas, wanted to install a smart gas meter in a residence and asked you to provide an update for the service pipe energy value, SPEV, for the residence beforehand: (a) Would you go through this same procedure using the diversity chart? (b) What sort of documentation/form would an energy company expect from you as a gas safe engineer?
Corrosive atmosphere? Recently had a meter installed in the cellar of an old terraced property, a common enough type of installation you come across all the time. I was there to do a landlords inspection, I found a gas leak coming from the gas meter case where condensate water had eaton through it. This cellar was dripping with condensation all the time according to the tenant, contacted the gas supplier who just came out and replaced the meter in the same location.
Hi Derek, I completely agree with your comment that gas meters shouldn't be installed under kitchen sinks. However, I raised this issue with Gas Safe following an incident, and they confirmed that no regulations explicitly prohibit the installation of gas meters in that location. They stated that a gas meter should not be placed under a kitchen sink only if the environment is proven to be damp and mouldy. I can email Gas Safe's response to you if you'd like, but I fully agree with your perspective.
@@fjrxj1134 damp and mouldy did they not mean if food or corrosive chemicals are stored ?
Very easy to understand thanks Derick 👍
work with gas installation here in Brazil thank you 18/11/20 as 11:54
My name is Dian Pelangi from Jakarta in Indonesia, I am a fashion designer and I want to use this media to tell everyone to be careful about getting loans on the internet, so many lenders here are fraudsters and they are here. tricking you with your hard-earned money, I applied for a loan for around Rp900,000,000 women in Malaysia and I lost around 29 million without taking a loan, I paid almost 29 million still I didn't get a loan and my business was about crashing because of debt.
When I searched for a reliable private loan company, I saw another online advertisement and the name of the company was THE WORLD LOAN COMPANY. I lost 15 million with them and to this day, I have never received the loan I proposed.
Dear God, my friends who applied for loans also received the loans, introducing me to a trustworthy company where Mrs. Christabel worked as a branch manager, and I applied for a loan of Rp900,000,000 and they asked for my credentials, and after that they finished verifying my details, the loan was approved for me and I thought it was just a joke, and maybe this was one of the cheats that made I lost money, but I was stunned. When I get my loan in less than 6 hours with a low interest rate of 2% without collateral
I am very happy that God used my friend who contacted them and introduced me to them and because I survived making my business soar high in the air and liquidated and now my business is flying high in Indonesia and no one will say it. know about fashion companies.
So I suggest all people who live in Indonesia and other countries who need loans for one purpose or another to contact
christabel mother via email: christabelloancompany@gmail.com
You can also contact me at my email: (lianmeylady@gmail.com) and Sety introduces and talks about christabel, she also gets a new loan from christabel, you can also contact her via her email: permatabudiwati@gmail.com Now, all who will I do is try to fulfill loan payments that I send directly to their account every month.
A word for wise men is enough
Thank you once again for reading my testimony, and may the Lord continue to bless us and give us a long life and a prosperous life and may God do the same good work in your life.
Good mother Christabel Missan What'sApp number +15614916019
I'm assuming that the bonding qualification is PEB1? Will this course just allow me to move, alter or extend not install if the bonding is missing?
I believe it allows gas engineers to install but we don’t run this course so not 100%
When the music started at 2:47, i thought it was the start of Crossroads
Absolutlety brilliant mate ... doing my ACS on 7t hDecember .. never even heard of diversity calculation !!!
Keep thees vids coming
Good luck with your ACS let me know how you go on 👍🏻
Can I test the resistance of the equal potential bonding to get to know if this works fine? What would it be the value I should get?
Thank you very much Derek. Very useful video, full of information. 👍😃
Can you show us how to fiddle the meter 😲✌
going to have me acs reassements, lol booked it with them, and watching there videos, crazy
Another real good video especially the area you talked about the surface mounted meter box being damaged (At Risk under IGEM/G11) and earth bonding. Thanks Derek. Trainee at tomkat gas training center..
Another brilliant lesson
Just done my gas meter assessment 🎉🎉 what paperwork is required after the exchange and purge please??? Only doing an ACS write up😅😅
Thank you for this excellent video on gas meters if you found a gas meter already installed under a kitchen sink what procedure would you carry out please
You don’t do anything only make sure you keep food and chemicals away from the meter it is classed as not to current standards
Thank you very much ,
Always enjoy and very informative your videos..
Thank you Derek for detailed video about gas meters.
What's permissible pressure drop on G470 671 gas meter with 22mm existing pipework and boiler please.
Super Video Derek. Question . Regards the meter ECV what's AR in none emergency situation ? then ID in emergency situation
Thanks for the graft doing these videos tons of useful info on this one.
Get called to install a gas appliance and you can’t get at the ECV then AR get called to a gas escape and can’t get at the ECV then ID
@@tomkatgastraining much appreciated
what about exsisting meters? 80% i go to are under kitchen sink or in utility with food storage
NCS then
What do you think about them being out doors.
They are only allowed outside if they are in a weather proof box in the U.K.
Mine was installed under the sink cabinet where I put the washing stuff
Hi can I install a boiler above a gas meter... a meter apart?
Ive got a little question i am currently doing my training, if you attend a job and tightness test and it drops, you then carry out all your tracing tests and this leads back to the meter. You then installing a sealing disc and confirm meter is leaking. Do you contact emergency number or the customers gas supplier to repair/or replace meter? Thanks
Absolutely banging 👍well done !
seems to be some debate about which side of the spigot gets sealed up with flue jointing compound. some say to seal the meter cupboard side, some say to seal the property side, and others say both. what's your take on it?
The meter cupboard side should always be sealed
We are not allowed any drop on any pipework (old or new) for any reason, smell of gas or no smell of gas, we need to prove that its the appliance that is passing, IGEM/UP/1B edition 3, p.19.
What is your point I say that in the video?
@@tomkatgastraining Actually you give the impression that as long as there are appliances attached then its ok to have a permissible drop, its not ok unless we can prove its on an appliance by disking the outlet of the meter and proving that its not the meter and by isolating the appliances and proving its not on the pipework.
@@MSKChess I don’t give the impression I state what the regulations say. Yes you are correct in what you are saying and I train my trainees to isolate the appliances when looking for leaks to find out if it’s the appliances or the pipe work. The video is about gas meters though and I was explaining that the meter is part of the process of permissible drop. Thanks for watching and your comment
Sure I understand, perhaps I was being overtly critical and I do apologise for that.
Hi, thanks for the vid. Who could tenants direct queries about gas meters to? I’ve used expanding foam to seal the hole where the green/yellow wire goes through the wall and I want to know if it’s now a risk
Always your landlord first
@@tomkatgastraining Thank you. Will ask first thing Monday. Much appreciated:)
Brilliant video Derek. Thanks mate 😁
Are these all different from what's used in the United States? I rent my home. No training at all. But I've never seen any of these type meters
A question, Can the outlet pipe run through the side of the gas meter box ?
@@ILLYRIANW0LF no
@@tomkatgastraining thanks 👍
I have read meters already and just want to submit the readings so that I can have my bill.
Can a Gas engineer relocate the gas meter or do i have to call the provider ?
I am a master E1 license electrician and have been doing this since 2006. I have never bonded a gas meter simply because I never ran into it. I have no idea how to bond a gas meter properly LOL. I appreciate your video but it really didn't show me or tell me how to do it. There is not one video out on the internet that shows from beginning to end the process of having to bond a gas meter to the grounding electrode conductor from start to finish. I'm talking about the size of the clamps the size of the grounding wire that metallic label the yellow striped with green copper conductor. Maybe you can be the first to make this video
Thanks for your comment and I am guessing you are from USA which I guess has different laws to us in England so me doing a video about it probably won’t help you.
@@tomkatgastraining 😫
@@theseattlegreen1871I don't understand what's so complicated. He did give the gauge of wire required, just didn't say it in freedom units, he used metric (mm²). The clamp would obviously be a pipe bonding clamp for steel/iron pipe, same as one would use for water pipes. The funky colors are a weird European thing, can't help you there 🤷♂️
My mother's gas meter has just been fitted with a new regulator by Cadent gas after the boiler engineer issued a danger do not use certificate as he had recorded low pressure on the system. The gas meter is situated under the kitchen sink and as per your video, this is not to current standards. the gas meter has been there since at least 1980 if not before. Should the gas meter be relocated and at whose cost would this be?
No the gas meter won’t be relocated but chemicals should not be stored with the gas meter
Is that sweated copper on the outlet side of the meter? It’s not allowed in the US.
Where can I submit my meter readings???
Hi derek, hopefully you have time to help clear this up for me,
Been to a flat to do a landlord check, found the newish boiler to be enclosed in an accessible stud tiled void built onto the external wall this enclosure also has an old gas meter inside, both the boiler and meter is accessible via the bathroom on the same wall as the bath/shower.. would the gas meter be in a NCS situation? And also would this installation be classed as within zone1 of the bath/shower. Im thinking because its enclosed perhaps its now not within any zone in that bathroom? Any help would be great as not come across this scenario before thanks and love the videos
The gas tightness test with appliances connected, is there a time period allowance for the permissible drop to stabilize.
That’s what the temperature stabilisation period is for 👍🏻
Really clear and instructive video.
brilliant video again👍👍
Excellent informative video thanks for taking the time to make it 👍👍👍
Many thanks for sharing these videos
Hello, I'm doing the interior architecture designs and basically asking for help. I'm listening to your video. So an electrical consumer unit can be as close as 150mm? If the meter is in a wall cabinet with a removable back. Would this cause issues with obstruction and delaying access to the emergency shut off valve? Thanks Aaron
I work for a utility company that is planning to replace the gas supply to a block of flats, the plan is to abandon the old internal riser and replace it with an external steel riser which will branch off into each flat.
The planned location for the new ECVs is in the kitchen cupboards under the sink which would obviously mean that the meter would also have to be relocated into the same cupboard.
Am I understanding you correctly that this is not allowed?
If you read the British standards it tells you the locations not to use and they class under the sink as I place not to use because of cleaning chemicals. In this situation it would be better to install the meters at ground level in meter boxes and put AECV into the flat. I have never come across a supply who would put the meter in that location but there’s always a first time
@@tomkatgastraining Used to fit gas meters for MacAlpines/British gas and Enterprise/National grid and one of the most common internal siting up in West Yorkshire is in the cupboard under the sink lol
Great!! Thanks Derek.
Do the Gas inlet and out let pipes to the meter need rubber rings? I see one by the meter but don't know if they belong to either one of the pipes? Or do they not belong on a meter?
The video is filmed in a gas training centre so no need to worry but yes the meter needs rubber rings as you put it
@@tomkatgastraining cheers, I won't throw it out just incase it's needed when the plumber gets here
i have a u6 meter but need an u16, does the pipework coming to the meter from outside need to be changed
A possibility yes
Brilliant and informal as always
Thanks Derek, I've My Acs in next 6 weeks. I'm more confident in the practical bit, but more nervous about the theory and paper questions. Apart from reading a books, what's your advice regarding the theory? Thanks
Watch my videos on ACS revision 😜
@@tomkatgastraininglol, No doubt about that ha,
English being my Third language makes it difficult for me at the theory bit, slow reader. Any advice on that please? 🫣
@@miransalih1079 reading your training manual and remembering where the different sections are will help you reference the questions quickly
@@tomkatgastraining thanks for advice, but when you said training Manual you meant the books? And I'm working on the sections.
@@miransalih1079 yes 👍🏻
So you can't have a meter in a food larder? Where I live the whole estate has them in the kitchen later? What is this classed as as its a new 9ne 9n me
NTS or AR if it is showing signs of corrosion or ID if leaking gas
Hi Derek
Something not mentioned is shear bolts and washers.
It’s my understanding you have to disconnect and remove a meter in order to solder new pipework in for example to a new appliance.
Do these get in the way how are they removed? Do they need to be replaced afterwards?
Thanks!
I think if you watch the video again I mentioned shear bolts and why they are needed. When removing the meter which I didn’t go through for obvious reasons the regulator and meter union don’t need to be removed. Thanks for watching cheers
Oops. You did indeed it’s at 9:45. Thanks!
@@1Monaghan 🤣🤣🤣👍🏻
Thanks mate much appreciated ❤
Always good Teaching, Good for new Engineers like me. Thanks
How does my meter know which gas in the gas main is the one that I'm paying for? As my next door neighbour is connected to the same gas main in the street yet pays less for her gas? How can this be as there is only one gas pipe in the street. I know this as I saw them install the pipe in the road. Surely my next door neighbours gas must be different if she pays less, so how many gases are travelling in down the pipe and how does my meter know which one is mine and not my neighbours. If the gas is the same for both of us why am I paying more??
You are billed from the gas you use through your meter it make no odds how many are fed of the main. You can have a higher bill than next door because you are using more than them or you have a different supplier
@@tomkatgastraining what I am saying that every supplier pays exactly the same price for the gas they buy, it comes down the same pipe yet when it reaches the meter the price changes. Why?
@@peterbattey8263 there is the gas transport and gas supplier you buy off the gas supplier.
@@tomkatgastraining in other words there are too many fingers grabbing a small pie. Don't come up with the saying that if it were all under one roof it would stifle competition that's a myth, as nearly all the UK's utilities are already owned by a few select companies who are now far too big to be taken down and stifling competition anyway. Same with transport system that along with utilities is foreign owned. Britain is finished as a global influencer. The Golden geese lay golden eggs for other people.
thanks for the amazing content. do you offer courses on installs of boilers at all?
We do the ACS mlp and reassessments water regs and g3 unvented. Coming soon we are doing plumbing and air sources heat pumps.
Is this what you’d expect in a Met1 assessment? Great video
Pretty much yes
Quick question I’m thinking of going from normal gas meter to a pay as you go……. Is the digital display battery powered or hard wired to mains?
Battery
With the rise in gas prices is it possible to fit lpg direct to gas meter instead of from supplier? I want to cap their input and replace with lpg instead... Any advice?
Noooooooooooooo you will need a gas engineer with lpg qualifications to change all the appliances over if they can be and install a new system of gas supply
@@tomkatgastraining thanx for that.... I've just had notification gas and electric are going up £400 average.....
Brilliant video derek always 5/5 👍
Thanks Derek great video 🙏🙏🙏
The first meter clearly states on the front U6
During a gas rate an imperial meter takes 38 seconds to complete 1 revolution. How many m3/h of gas has been burnt? (answer to 2 decimal points) Calotific Value is 1040 imperial and 10.76 metric?
1040 and 10.76 is not the calorific value of natural gas .
@@tomkatgastraining thanks alot for your reply. Its 10.76 when we divide it by 3.6
@@aghasahib4703 you are correct with the 10.76 and that is the gross cv of natural gas but we don’t divide it by the kw we divide the amount of mega joules to give us the kw gross
Good video. How would you identify a medium pressure meter and regular? I've only seen low pressure.
The little green leaver is only on medium pressure and there will be the MIV on most of them
Do you do the EUSR course derek
The outlet of my gas meter is lead and has this white powdery stuff around it, is this normal?
That’s lead oxide or the lead corroding
That was a fast reply thanks, is it ok or should I get it checked out? Thank you
@@shaq1 if you can smell gas get it checked out
@@tomkatgastraining I will do thank you.
Think your allowed an anaconda pipe on inlet and outlet on some semi concealed gas meter.
Correct 👍🏻
Top training, well done sir.
I don't want a smart meter installed at my domestic property. Can one purchase their own U6 or G4 meter and get it installed by an independent qualified gas engineer?
You don’t have to have one. Just tell your supplier you don’t want one
@@tomkatgastraining I did. They won't install anything other than a smart meter. They are under pressure from OFGEM to meet targets to install them or risk a fine. That is why I asked if it's possible for me to purchase one and get it installed by an independent qualified gas engineer?
@@underdogunchained at the end of the day all a smart meter dose is tell you how much gas you are using and sends the readings to the supplier so they don’t have to send anyone around to read it .
@@tomkatgastraining I understand the selling point of convenience. I still do not want one. I want to own my own meter. Is it feasible to purchase one and get it installed?
@@underdogunchained you can but you will need to find a supplier who will just take the readings of the meter and not want to put a smart meter in
How can I make mine leak to get it moved outside
What’s the blue thing on the meter
What do the red numbers mean on a (UGI) meter?
Fraction of a full unit
Great video and loads of help 👍🏻
Brilliant video thanks/ keep them coming
Nice video, thanks. Who owns or is responsible for the meter box?
It might be useful for newbies to know who owns what on the gas meter too.
The meter is owned by the gas suppliers and the meter box is the responsibility of the house owner so if the ECV, anaconda, regulator or meter needs replaced then the supplier picks up the bill but the box is the house owner’s problem
@@tomkatgastraining Kinda, You're correct in that the supplier is responsible for the gas meter, but it is owned by a Meter Asset Manager (National Grid Metering, SGN Metering and SMS are 3 examples) - otherwise you'd be looking at a meter change with every supplier change - which isn't feasible. The regulator and anaconda (they are a single assembly) are usually owned by the MAM as well. The service pipe and ECV are owned by the Gas Distribution Network (either Cadent, SGN, Wales & West Utilities, Northern Gas Networks or one of the plethora of IGTs) and the meter box is owned by the house owner.
I work for a smart metering company, the door and lock are the responsibility of the homeowner/landlord the easy bit.
It gets tricky when the bracket is damaged, my company policy is we change the bracket, which I think is wrong however the regs state no operative shall drill a meter box other than the approved entry points.
Because if it’s a inset meter box the gas supplier would need to remove the main service pipe to fit a new rear box.
So should it be the supplier who repairs the box and not the meter operative??
Hi! I have a gas meter in my room in a cupboard and it kinda smells, is it detrimental to your health to smell gas? What are the risks? It's not a big leak since I had naked flames around that spot and nothing happened, but I can still smell it pretty bad in the cupboard and around it. Thank you
I hope your still alive.
@@egzonmorina4162 yeah, I moved out of there recently, thanks! :)) I had someone come and take a look and they said it actually was a leak, but not enough to blow up, he tightened something up and the smell stopped.
Love your videos, but the first meter say u6 and you call it and g4 any reason for that?
Because it’s a g4 meter the u 6 on the meter is not the type. We call a u6 meter the one that is in ft3 and a g4 in m3 and this meter is in m3
Thanks for this very interesting, can you tell me the standard text books for gas installation?
We use the logic training manual but there are lots of books out there
@@tomkatgastraining Thanks!
Hi the g10 bkt, is that acceptable?, I’m currently on a new install with the same shelf type bkt, but the meter can still move on that?, transporter hasn’t attached it to the box and bg fitted the meter and they won’t attach it in place either as they won’t perforate the box🙄, the usual nonsense going on, any info appreciated cheers
Yes the bracket is acceptable and the only bracket I know of for u16 or g10 there is also the meter box of course
@@tomkatgastraining cheers bud, I’ll get it affixed then and be happy with that for connection, much appreciated!
can we use anacondas on the pipe work? (e.g inlet of the boiler or any gas appliance or middle of the pipework)
No the anaconda is designed for the meter but you could use tracpipe or gastite pipe on the installation
@@tomkatgastraining Thank you very ı am grateful
What training book is the best? Do any do an A4 format like the old city books? Miss them
They all give the same information but use the one from your training provider as the exams are taken from it
Why do we need an additional test point after an AECV?
To test pipe work after aecv
@@tomkatgastraining you would do that at the meter though? And you would always need to access the meter when working on an appliance for gas rate etc?
@@onefortheroad1 nope what if you are working in flats with one commercial meter
@@tomkatgastraining I’m talking domestic though. If they have a boiler within each flat, is there still a requirement for an additional test point?
@@onefortheroad1 yep
Hello mr Darek I appreciate all ur help
Can you please do vedeo for legislation and combustion pleeaaaaaase thank you very much
Hi sir
Please make a one video normal gas tight ness test and clear explain why is permitted drops low pressure meter thanks
Coming very soon
If you suspect let by you can disconnected the regulator anaconda and apply ldf to ecv ?? But no where does it say apply temporary Continuity bond when carrying out this task, you only ever get told to fit bond on meter removal ,why is this ?surely your still breaking the potential earth path?
Because the earth is still connected if you have one. When you remove the meter or cut into the pipe down stream of the meter you will loose the earth. Also now we are using non contact voltage indicators before we do anything to show we have no stray electrical currents and it’s safe to touch also helps.
Great video, well done.
So much info on meters covered brilliantly in such a short period of time.
Is lead lock only for domestic incoming water supply then? Great video Derek 👍🏻
Asian Jon. Training.
Yes mate it is
@@tomkatgastraining Thanks!
Very informative video👍
Hi
Its zafar I m student of gas engineer course.
I m confused with you fingers which you mantion.
YOU said
For
g4 gives 6 cubic miter or 212 cubic feet?
Same for u6
Same for e6
And
g19 you said
60 cubic miter or 265 cubic feet.
And that is allowed in domidtic gas.
First
HOW come 6 cubic miter is equal to 212 feet?
If it's write than 1 cubic miter is equal to 35.33 cubic feet?
And you said g10
60 cubic meter or 265 cubic feet
So here 1 cubic meter is equal to 4 41 cubic feet?
And also viper book says max gas voulal for domic is 16 meter cubic
Can please some one explain to me.
I will wait for answer
I said g10 which is 16 m3/hr not 60 it must be my Manchester accent lol
@@tomkatgastraining
Okay
HOW many cubic feets in 1 cubic meter?
6 cubic meter equel is 212 cubic feet
And 16 cubic meter is equal to 265 cubic feets?
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@@zafarmahmood4877 are you telling me or asking me ?
Just watched it back yeh said 2 instead of 5 think I got there in the end 👍🏻
565
Know quite clear
Many thanks