The History of Ninja Gaiden World Records
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- Forgot to mention that Hotarubi and Ohon also helped with the making of this video!
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Minor correction - Aquas and Chambers came up with the idea of RNG manip, and Arcus figured out how to implement it for his own runs.
Video Credits:
Coming soon...
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Apologies for the blur at 23:36, had to remove something from the video.
Calendars are now too hot for TH-cam
@@Xxfinalfantasyx wut? there was a calendar with a hot picture on it?
i thought my laptop was having a heart attack
@@freezeframeplease there were a lot of calendars, nothing hot in them thats just a joke, so idk why
I didn't know it was possible to edit youtube videos without reuploading
“Japanese man absolutely dominates the art of quickly playing a game about ninjas for seven years until a mustachioed cowboy shows him THE FASTEST HAND IN THE WEST”
Why doesn't this comment have 1 million likes already goddammit
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@hi there bad day?
@hi there This entire channel is about shining a light on the process of WR rivalries, stop trying to play hipster gatekeeper.
@hi there hahahahahaha, nerd.
"The world record was initially traded back and forth between japanese runners Osaka, Ramada and *S H I V E R I N G E R O T I C K I N G B A N A N A"*
word has it that runner F U C K is gonna go for it after he beats his next american dad record.
Its only a matter of time before he gets the record back.
I lost it when that game through, the complete seriousness with which it was said made it so much better.
@@GalileoAV I wonder how many takes it took.
Guess SummoningSalt needed 30,309 attempts to say that without breaking into mad laughter.
_"Shivering Erotic King Banana."_
He said that so calmly, I almost didn't question it.
That’s like Jeff or Greg in some cultures.
@Schlugel joe mama
@@P-nk-m-na gotem
@Schlugel You got off easy
Summoning salt loooovvvves the fun names
"Beating Ninja gaiden in under 14 minutes was still a great achievement."
Beating this game once in your lifetime is quite an achievement already !
thats what i think, like the game is so hard i consider beating it desthless single segment is already a speedrun given how you cant miss a second
Damn im you, i didnt remember watching this
@@TheHortomanepic
Wut? Me and my friend would sit on the phone back in the early 90s and speedrun this over and over lol. We were around 15 minutes.
@@A_Stereotypical_HereticI got a sub 9 minute but I forgot to start the camera
“Osaka, Ramada, and Shivering Erotic King Banana.”
One of these are not like the others
One of these things just doesn't belong
Osaka starts with a vowel the others dont
But they rhyme so well, what are you talking about
This game must not like the Turks then
thinking about Shivering Erotic King Banana 🥰🥰
>japanese player ohon gets 11:56 time on emulator
>western community: "he must have cheated!"
>ohon plays an actual console and gets 11:48 time instead
you fools! the emu wasn't for cheating. the emu was to restraint his power!
Its like an EVA without an armor
He was using a handicap on kb to hold back lol
Epic funny arrow meme outside of 4chan when even 4chan has stopped with them xd dxdxdxxdxdx1111!!!111
Ohon gets 11:48 when playing on console
Western runners : surpised pikachu face
The emulator was weighted clothing, haha
Arcus seems like the embodiment of the phrase "Be rootin, be tootin, by god be shootin, but most importantly be kind"
I need to make that my life motto
Should one be high falootin'?
@@ahahahaha496NO!
NO
Pretty sure he is like Dennis from Sunny in Philadelphia if you catch my drift.
*Reality of Speedrunning* :
*Today* : A person who spent his whole life over 50 years playing and shaving micro seconds off of his speedrun announces his retirement because of age related issues.
*Tomorrow* : New skip found that shaves off 50 seconds.
Goldeneye was the opposite; old guy shows a strategy so unpopular (looking down) it made several young guys give up speedrunning.
That's one thing I like Summoning Salt vids. We appreciate the journey there. If we found a skip that shaved off a minute there would still be a long segment of the video appreciating's Arcus's grind and dominance leading up to that.
“Shivering Erotic King Banana”
Alright so we’re just not talking about that?
Nope, this is a family friendly channel my dude.
Except maybe for that part...
That was my nickname in high school.
Not everyone is 15
I don't know how he could say that in the same flattish tone he used for the others.
Frog Glen ok Shivering Erotic King Banana.
The only reason Ohon's time got beaten was because he didn't grow a moustache and start wearing a cowboy hat.
His only weakness was being Japanese
Or maybe just because..
ARCUS IS BETTER
its the source of his power
Unlike Ohon I don't chuckle.
Ohon fell to the power of MURICA.
Honestly Arcus seems such a good man and just keeps his cool and hammering at it. Genuine dedicated speedrunners seem to be generally great people.
17:53
This is the biggest middle finger in speed running history second only to the guy who decided to save the animals in Metroid.
The guy they thought held the record before they found out about ohon's existence (they guy who they spent like a year trying to beat) was Hotarubi, who just so happens to be the guy who decided to save the animals in Metroid
@@Unknownslenderman I know! Hotarubi is so legendary!!!!!!
Arcus is like the bob ross of speedrunning, he's just quietly narrating what's happening and the atmosphere is really chill
aaand bonk
*Arcus barely loses a 1/27,000 run to minor tail RNG after spending literal years in the attempt*
Arcus: darn.
Very impressive, what a legend!
wwwaldo333 arcus in attempts 35,000 “well, maybe we can frame count right?” Id rage so hard I’d be dead
@@zachcity75
"well, maybe we can frame count right?"
after frame count: Still above 11 minutes 40 seconds
goes back into the game
So let me get this straight: Ohon unknowingly had the WR for 4 years, had the run undermined due to the emulation he was using, and then responded by beating said WR by 8 seconds on the game's original console which was the best run for another 3 years?
*FUCKING. LEGEND.*
hard ass flex if you ask me
I bet if he went back to speed running ninja gaiden he could utterly destroy Arcus in only a couple hundred attempts
@@Dimitri88888888 I think the run is too polished now for this to happen. There is less than 1% chance both boss fights go perfectly so 99% of runs won't make a WR based on luck. You need 1000 tries to get 10 tries with good enough luck essentially. Ohon was amazing for his time, but Arcus has now played 40K attempts and gained hella skill throughout, he's quite a bit better than anyone else. If somone was to beat it I'd say minimum 10K attempts or something new would have to be found.
@@richardgallimore5976 as Salt says, RNG manipulation is a huge time saver once mastered
That was literally my favorite part
"just a little spin slash there"
"jump then slice, just jump then slice"
- cowboy speedrunning bob ross
Can we just appreciate that Arcus is the nicest guy you’ve ever met, in addition to having the most patience of anyone you’ve ever met, in addition to having the most fortitude of anyone you’ve ever met?
I would never have the patience to be a top level player of one of these games lol
I've never met him though 🕳️🎤
@@riahlexington fax I would do like 4 attempts get bored and move on
he seems lonely.
And his mustache fucking rocks.
So what you're telling me is, Arcus became the ultimate cowboy ninja.
Any relation to Billy Wang Yang
He deserves it after putting that much time in to this game. I hit the calculator real quick and you don't even want to know...
omg lol he is kung lao
I find it incredibly fitting that the man who broke the Japanese dominance grew a moustache and wore a cowboy hat.
@@party4keeps28 At least 333.33 days of game time if you figure 12 minutes per game, and round to 40,000 attempts.
I love how any enemy that throws projectiles in an arc in a 2d platformer is automatically Hammer Brothers.
If it's randomized especially. It's the universal "fuck hammerbros" but nice to see they found a workaround in Ninja Gaiden
Because the Hammer Bros from the actual game (Super Mario Bros) have ruined so many good runs since a pretty long time. They are so hated from the runners or the cusuals in general by be so random to jump and throw their hammers. So I don't have any doubt to understand why those enemies get nicknamed the hammer bro of Ninja Gaiden.
To be honest, it kind of annoys me that they're automatically "hammer bros" throwing "hammers".
Love the detail
Well, they are also random, which is why everyone hates Hammer Bros
I really love that cheaters remain unnamed and uncredited. We don’t give cheaters attention around here
They get attention on Karl Jobst
@@rieldebonk1044I think they deserve negative attention for what they did, it’s good to make the name well known so people know to be wary of them.
I mean I think some part of keeping them unnamed is so there's not a needless crowd of harassment being pointed right into their direction
Because the fact of the matter of being a big TH-camr is, it doesn't matter how clear you try to make it to your fanbase to not bother someone when you paint them in a negative light, there's always going to be a chunk who completely ignore that and form a hate mob anyway, and aside from the fact they'll be very unsubtle about what TH-camr "sent" them, it's just gross to have a mob go after someone in general, so better to just try and avoid potential conflict altogether
That way when they come back, we have no idea they're a cheater... wait
Big shoutout to ohon: His 11:48 is 8 years old but this is still good enough for the 6th best time. Amazing and the other runners can use the improved fight strats already.
"He grew a mustache and started wearing a cowboy hat." Well, this is the most important information in this whole video. It sounds, as if would be a natural evolution of a gamer mastering Ninja Gaiden.
he literally had to become chuck norris
@@apollorainer1991 Looking at his attitude towards the game seems more like a Bob Ross of speedrunning.
@@apollorainer1991 HAHAHAHA
Jacob Mackin Mustache. I am not a native English speaker.
Rod Trendy I didn’t even notice the typo 😀
Love how the entire character development of Arcus over the past 10 years was just he grew a mustache and wore a cowboy hat
FINAL FORM ?
@@619kane When he gets the perfect run and the perfect boss fights, then he will achieve his golden form.
@@Merennulli Nah, more like Ultra Instinct Form
@@Merennulli gloden form
@@Merennulli He will have achieved CHIM
Ohon the absolute legend. "Oh yeah I can see how there's some doubt that I pulled this off. How about I prove it by switching to official hardware and completely pulverizing my own record?"
Fun fact: Since the NES runs at around 60.098 FPS, Arcus's two 11:40.00 times would be exactly 42069 frames long
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local man evolves into a cowboy just to beat a japanese player's world record
"just to beat a Japanese player's unknown world record"
Let me guess Florida?
Nice
"Wanna see me get an 11:40 flat?"
"Wanna see me do it again?"
common man... that doesnt even make any sense
@@junoglrr9119 Watch the video.
@@junoglrr9119 "Common man"? Is that the new "basic", calling someone a common man?
I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter lol love you guys
I’d never want anyone to beat that run it’s too satisfying to beat lol
40,000 attempts at one game is beyond inconceivable, he definitely has dreams about flippin' and floppin', fallin' and droppin'
In March, TheRetroRunner reduced Ninja Gaiden to a whopping 11:35.433, with Arcus streaming WR attempts as recently as May 2nd - his current PB is an 11:37.384. Amazing stuff!
it's currently an 11.34.184 by TRR with Arcus in second place with an 11.35.883
Another second down! The current record stands at
11m 33s 700ms by TheRetroRunner
11m 34s 817ms by Arcus
If I may, 11m 32s 183ms . Thanks everyone!
An American cowboy beats the world record in a Japanese game about being a ninja. It’s almost poetry
God Bless America 🗽
This is the most underrated comment. Ever. Of all time.
Give it time, aint gonna be underrated for long
You Sir deserve a Gold
@@robotsex111 b r u h
Summoning Salt didn't even bring up Arcus's greatest achievement: his WR in burrito meatless%
yes sub 13
bean and cheese burritos are pretty fire idk what you mean
@Fuck Google the name tho.........
@Fuck Google I fuckin love meat, I did a carnivore diet for a week for the memes- there are just some foods that slap without needing meat in it.
😂
This one made me cry. 34,000 attempts, all while maintaining one hell of an attitude on camera. Incredible. That level of dedication is pure inspiration.
Or borderline mental illness..Gotta be some autism in here somewhere
Update:
On the 29th September, 2021, a player with the username TheRetroRunner beat Arcus's time. New WR is a 11.37.833
nope it's now a 11.36.834! retrorunner shaved a second off
Wtf.
@@cd06tgc79 11.35.43 now!
I rewatched this video in 2022 and noticed TRR's name at the very end when summoning salt said "no one is within 10 seconds of Arcus in the leaderboard"... Little foreshadowing I guess.. although I believe Arcus will take back his crown!
thats kinda sad after how much of a chad arcus was
Ohon: "Oh you want me to do it on a real console? Sure let me just..." *Ultra Instinct activated*
ohon? you're approaching me?
KA KA KA KA KACHI DA ZE
"You dare challenge me, mortal?"
when it turns out the console might as well be considered cheating compared to the emulator, lmao
Arcus: You have yee'd your last haw Ohon.
I love hearing “considered one of the best speedruns ever” and having half an hour left in the video.
It’s one of the best feelings in the world
My Favorite is whenever he does a "and that was the limit, it doesnt get better than this" before showing a wonder
"And that was where the world record ended up...literally no one ever broke it again, pay no attention to there being 34 minutes left in the video, thats just me talking about waffles. I'm serious, it was never broken again...............that is..........until 4 seconds later" *cue montage music* " until 69_TigBitties_420 came around".
@@d3ngel459 this makes literally no sense.
Yesss
speed runner mentality:
"finally got it... 11:40..."
"..."
*literally 1 second later*
"I wonder if that could be 11:39"
3 years later, Arcus is in second place with an 11:34:817
A new guy named TheRetroRunner has an 11:32:183
poor arcus
@@tictoctreasures2554Still a legend
24:40 "He developed an amazing calming presence. He grew a moustache and started wearing a cowboy hat"
I haven't laughed that hard in a while
Also the bolo tie.
I now know who my hero is
but seriously. he gives big bob ross vibes.
He doesn't swear or get visibly distraught at all ever it seems. He just says "darn" and resets to go again. Most speedrunners are calm but not that calm lol
Arcus is so hilarious, after watching this I went to his Twitter and he's posting speedruns of him making a burrito, his fastest time was 13 seconds lmao
There needs to be an arbitrary list of items required inside the Burrito for it to be considered a Burrito because a Burrito speed runner could just put meat in it, wrap it up, and say he made a Burrito in 5 seconds.
@@sheriffaboubakar9720 Any% Burrito?
@@anononomous Well yea I guess adding meat only would be any% and adding meat along with an arbitrary list of extras like cheese, lettuce, tomato, sauce and sour cream would be 100%.
omfg, that was him? I watched that video cause it kept getting recommended lol
Is sub 12 seconds possible? Perhaps with RNG manipulation? I know the tool-assisted ones have gone faster, but to what extent can those techniques be replicated by mortal hands? It's so exciting!
I love how he says in most of his vids: “the run was optimized to the max,” and there’s a full 25 mins left. I’m always really interested in learning what else is done to cut time
“Every now and then, a game will get a record that’s so good, people don’t even think it’s worth trying to beat it.” Checks time. 20 minutes left. I’m in for a treat.
hahahaha yes.
I was doing the same thing rofl
That's the moment I knew that a madlad was going to appear and sink thousands of attempts into the game.
But I didn't expect THAT
Naw it be like:
Hehe... I’m in danger
For staying so composed, never swearing or raising his voice when achieving absolutely earth shattering records, and sporting such a fine mustache, this guy truly is the Ned Flanders of speedrunning.
Okaily-Dokily Neddy, just got to do the regular ol' 1.5 rounder on Jaquio and a Rich kill on the final form for an 11:37. Shouldn't be too much of a hassle for you.
I was thinking Arcus is like if my cowboy uncle started streaming NES games, but you're dead on comparing him to Ned Flanders.
Stupid sexy cowboy
nah he's the Bob Ross
*Bob Ross
there's something endearing about a dude in a cowboy hat with a mustache streaming video games
Arcus is so wholesome. I feel better knowing he’s out there somewhere. He was carrying the entire team on his back for so long but never complained. What an absolute legend.
Go watch his dead lifeless eyes the next time he streams...He looks like he only leaves the house once a month for supplies.
SOUNDS GREAT @@CWHolleman
Ohan: 11.56
US: He could be cheating with that emulator he’s using.
Ohan: Fine I’ll use console.
Ohan: *11.48*
Talk shit, get crit
"Ho shit, what have we done"
And four years later, to boot. Must've been insanely rusty, but NBD for the NG1 master.
That's a big dick move if I ever saw one.
Japanese friend of Ohan: "Do you want him to try that again?"American speedrunner: "No, no, please don't try that again."XP
When you demand that the emulator WR holder should do a legit console run as proof - and then he dominates everybody even more than before.
Yes
Arcus ist just so wholesome, being so humble and at the same time confident about his skills in this game, gotta love em
I'm no video game expert or even some "hardcore gamer" I just grew up on the classics and that's essentially what I still play. Most of my friends and friends of friends still play the all the new stuff that comes out. However, whenever I'm a part of a video game discussion with people and it comes up or I say, that I just simply beat NES original Ninja Gaiden...it's like instant cred. I love that.
Ohon: *holds world record for seven years*
Arcus: "This town ain't big enough for the two of us, partner."
Rest of the world: "You used an emulator, you could be cheating!"
Ohon: "Thou dare challenge ME, mortal?"
That felt great after watching videos of speedrun cheaters in the past.
This made me genuinely laugh out loud.
But he never used it on MAME--
Goodfeatherz good ol billy
one o the things i find so fadcinating about these world record progression videos is that even the final record shown is never a "perfect" run of whatever route theyre using. Every time there's always a missed jump, or a slightly unoptimized boss fight, etc. The fact that even after so much optimization there's *always* a way for it be done better is so cool to me.
In the case of Ninja Gaiden, that's basically the definition of this game in a nutshell. As Arcus has demonstrated you can have hundreds or thousands of great, even supremely great runs of NG all day long if you have enough skill. But when it comes to a "perfect" run... you have a better chance of being struck by lightning while being bit by a shark and stung by a bee all at the same time on February 29th than you do at having a literally _perfect_ NG run with:
- perfect inputs
- no mistakes
- using every single frame saving trick possible, wherever possible
- getting optimal enemy patterns (with or without RNG manipulation)
- executing a flawless Jaquio
- getting lucky with a no-hits 'shrimp' pattern
- *and* achieving a perfect DRK (Demon Rich-kill) as a capstone to everything else being perfect for 11+ minutes straight in a single playthrough
It's effectively impossible, but Arcus has dedicated a ridiculous amount of time to proving otherwise and I respect his determination. It just might happen someday and for his sake I really hope that there aren't any new strat discoveries shortly after it does.
11:56- on an emulator
"you might've cheated! use a native console!!"
11:48- on a native console
oh _OKAY_
That was such a F U move XD
it's like
OKAY YOU DON'T NEED TO FLEX MAN
@@danish_person1842 he was called into question, so he proved himself
“... a runner by the name of Arcus.“
Me: “I heard this name before.“
“He grew a mustache and started wearing a cowboy hat.“
Me: “Oh, that guy!“
The "aaand clunk!" guy.
@@Junior-tj4bv I always heard it as "plonk"
@@potatobearsmo cool!
When I saw his cowboy hat and mustache I was like "ISN'T HE THE CURRENT WR IN BURRITO MEATLESS%???"
Sounds oh a child, looks of a man.
"It didn't need the perfect run, it just needed the perfect ending"
Then you hear Finally We're Landing
Yep!
gosh dang I love this youtuber so much-- they're just put together so well
God damn I love that moment in every single one of these videos!
thtat was hype
Hotarubi is like an early speedrunning polymath. The peak player in different games, genres, consoles, all at the same time.
ok summoning salt for real: how many takes was the "shivering erotic king banana" bit i need to know.
It was so perfectly deadpan I laughed out loud while watching.
I know it’s been said before but it’s staggering how this man can make a 30-60 minute documentary about one game and make the ENTIRE thing intriguing. Props to you my man. Good shit.
Yeah I was never into speedrunning at all before discovering this channel a few years ago
I just can't click away of his videos even if a watched tham alredy
Best youtuber
Esp since ive never heard about this game and would otherwise never care. Such good story telling!!
Power pug And that’s a fact! 💯
I love how his second reaction after beating the world record by a whopping two seconds after having several less-than-a-second improvements is “I wonder if I can get that to a 39.” Just insane mentality. Speedrunners are nuts
Once you are on a roll it's hard to stop. Beat a final boss in 30 seconds, wonder if you can get it down to 25, pull it off and then you shoot for 20. 200 hours later you get it to 18 and spend months trying to push it further. Kinda takes over your life if you let it lol when do you draw the line and say "ok I can't possibly top this one" without feeling like you are giving up?
Pretty sure Arcus meant that he was wondering if it's possible he got a 39 on his current run, and just pressed the pedal a bit late. Summoning Salt says it right after as well, that it could be a good chance it was a 39, but it was a 40 even.
speedrunning is not for the weak of will
Yesterday, Arcus' 3 year old record was beaten with an 11:37. Holy cow.
Thanks for commenting this! Huge shoutout to Arcus for inspiring me to play the game and sharing his awesome community with me. I believe we can take the time lower even still 😀
Duel of the Frames
OMG WAIT WHAT
IS HE STREAMING ATTEMPTS TO BREAK IT?
@@spinachdip8486 Arcus started getting back into NG1 after the new year. So I'm assuming he's planning on trying to get it back, but it I could be wrong.
He DID just get WR in Die Hard (NES) recently
This dude dedicated like 300 whole days of his life to this game. That's just unbelievable.
Arcus somehow gives off the vibe of the ideal step father. I want him to call me “sport”
Arcus .... Atticus?
Is Jay Gatsby also your ideal stepfather?
He does look like he dishes out a nice "go get 'em, sport!" every now and then.
come on OLD SPORT
im sorry but the word sport has been ruined by day shift at freddy's
I fucking love
“Weeeellll he did it on an emulator he might have cheated”
*shatters his own record on console shortly after*
_“You were saying?”_
"I was holding back, my mistake, I see now that was impolite of me."
They awoke the sleeping dragon and look where it got them
2 months ago arcus was beaten by TheRetroRunner with a 11m 37s 833ms. Mad respect.
Guy. Your narrative and editing is so f'ing amazing. I didn't even know speed run documentaries were a thing and could be so amazing. Keep it up!
Abney: I put 26 thousand attempts into the weathertenko
Arcus: *Pathetic*
Yeah, not to mention that a single attempt at getting a triple weathertenko takes way less time than a single attempt at a full run of Ninja Gaiden.
Just wow.
it's a different kind of grind. i't rather play a full game for 50x longer than i'd smash a car against a wall nonstop. respect where respect is due
*Amateur!*
@@tomotion7293 @Nehimsupacac Can't we just appreciate how both runners have dedication?
comparing runners from different games is considered rude
"Defeating Ninja Gaiden under 14 min was a great achievement." LOL Defeating Ninja Gaiden in itself is a great achievement.
Yeah, I first played it back in 89. Played it so many times since, and only first beat it last year.
LOL true. Played this as a kid, never got past level 2.
Mastered Battletoads, though 😎
@@alsoknownas875 On singleplayer, or multiplayer?
@@LorenHelgeson yeah right
I played it and only made it to the Aztec level
Absolutely love these videos! Just rewatched this one for the 3rd time and it never gets old. Summoning Salt might just be a TH-cam genius
I'm watching this nearly a year later, doing a marathon of Summoning Salt Videos. I check the leaderboard for this game to see if Arcus had made it any lower. His record still stands as of now!
However... he has a new competitor; TheRetroRunner, as seen at third place at the very end of the video, is now a mere _849 milliseconds_ behind the WR. Absolutely amazing.
I have a weird feeling that “Shivering erotic king banana” will become a Summoning Salt inside joke going forward
I freaking screencapped it! XD
i am looking for a way to incorporate it into my daily lexicon
*Make it so.*
Peel my skin Ninja-Senpai.
It is now so
"He grew a moustache, and started wearing a cowboy hat."
He grew the cowboy hat and started wearing a mustache.
@@TheRetroChallengerV That's actually still being debated currently. Arcus hasen't commented on th e situation.
"He grew a mustache, and started wearing a cowboy hat."
@@TheRetroChallengerV Summarizes pretty much all cowboys
That cut half a second off the run immediately
The new WR is held by TheRetroRunner with a staggering 11:34.184 a full .9 seconds faster than arcus’s 11:35.883
This is one of the handful of games that I had as a kid. Never beat it and there was no internet to reach out to for help. Glad to see some of these classics in the spotlight.
Same here. Not only could I never beat it, I never even got that far in it! It was extremely tough and I played it a lot
I kept expecting to hear: "But then it turned out Ohon had a sub 11 run that the community didn't know about.."
"And he did it while making out with the top competitors' moms." F'ING OHON!!!!
@Dewani90 it is?
@Dewani90 oh wow - that's like, some key information right there. that makes ohan's and arcus' rivalry... well, a lot less of a rivalry --
@Dewani90 proof?
EDIT: googled it and found some old forum posts dating back to 2008 talking about Ninja Gaiden's difficulty variation between versions. Only found that during the 15 minutes when i actually cared about this though.
I love how the top speedrunner of this game blows all of the other runners out of the water, and he is a mustache growing, cowboy hat wearing guy who loves to make bzzt and klonk sound effects
I come back to this video every couple months without even thinking about it. Definitely tied as my favorite video by summoning salt along with the Matt Turk video. Arcus is God.
Dude, your storytelling is next level. I never thought I'd be eagerly watching videos about speed running, but you make the whole journey so freaking interesting and captivating.
I love how you say Shivering Erotic King Banana so seriously
It's like in the Melee documentary when they introduce Dr Peepee for the first time
Ninjas: Hee yaw
Arcus: Yee haw
goddamned underrated comment.
Punnet square:
___Haw_Yaw
Hee DKY NJA
Yee RGS ???
Underrated af
Lol
Best comment.
Love the content - I don't speedrun, but I love checking in on these games that used to be a nightmare to complete when I was a kid. This stuff is great.
I love a good pop-off but seeing arcus just go “ :) I did it! “ is really something else
Arcus: "Is that it?"
Me: "Well the credits music is kicking in so probably"
Fun fact. The “SP” boost in 5-2 was originally coined as the “Sex Panther” boost. A reference to the cologne depicted in the film, Anchorman, which “works 60% of the time...every time.” An initial commentary on how the boost was difficult and even top players would not get the trick with high consistency.
This later became the “San Pellegrino” boost. A reference to the fact that Arcus drank the beverage frequently while speedrunning Ninja Gaiden. Once Arcus moved on from the drink it was finally shortened to the current name of “SP boost.”
I appreciate hearing about small details like this in what is already an entertaining and interesting video regarding a world record for a game I've never played.
I will never stop loving speedrunning for shit like this
Ok but why would anyone ever stop drinking blood orange San Pellegrino?
Duuuuude... i stepped on this video randomly.... never knew about ninja gaider or Arcus before... followed all the video with exitement... and then stepped into your comment.... and turned out i live like 10 km from the small town "San Pellrgino (Terme)" in italy where the beverage you mention is produced!!! What a fucking concidence! World is really small afterall!
Sinister1 is world class.
This is one of my fav vids on the channel, Arcus is such a legend. Thanks for all the hard work you put into these they always turn out amazing
What a legend. I love to see this dedication. Arcus seems like a great guy
the thing i respect most about Summonginsalt is that he can say anything with a straight voice. even something as ridiculous as "shivering erotic king banana" he brushes off as if nothing was wrong.
that's what you respect the most?
I have seen the question of "why didn't they use Jaquio's middle platform earlier?" pop up a few times and agree that the middle platform seems like the obvious speedy choice, so I will attempt to give a good textual explanation of what took us so long. There might be some false assumptions and misrememberings here, but I'll do my best to send my mind back to the meta of the time:
People had certainly thought about using the middle platform for a quicker kill, but there just didn't seem to be a way to get it to work out. The timing of Jaquio's movement and fireballs is very restrictive. There aren't a lot of ways to get onto the middle platform and stay there while maintaining constant offense. When you're out in the open the fireballs WILL hit you unless you're deliberately dealing with them. Ryu's movement is restricted further by the fact that you cannot move left/right while slash canceling. Even if there was a way to stay up there, some of the time gained from the advantageous offensive position would have to be spent defensively to avoid getting hit.
The traditional 2 round strat is very difficult, but very simple. Left/right movement is nearly nonexistent. The fireball timing just kinda works out in your favor. It is almost entirely dependent on your slash cancel mashing ability. A really good mash pretty much requires an abnormal controller grip where you are pressing Down and B with the same hand. People were not experienced with being simultaneously ready to move and ready to mash.
So:
Efforts to develop a working middle platform solution seemed to be pointing towards MAYBE a *slightly* faster (~0.3 seconds?) kill that was much more complicated and awkward than the traditional strat. If there were other people that had worked through this problem up to this vague point, my guess is that they figured any potential solution would be impractical. Jaquio was already hard enough. That was how I personally felt until I made a breakthrough.
The true breakthrough of the "Plate Kill" was pushing the movement far enough to fit in a 3rd offensive jump while Jaquio was still on the left side. The rest just kinda falls into place out of necessity. At this point the fireball NEEDS to be dealt with. The positioning on the far right side of the platform lures the trouble fireball into Ryu's standing slash range and leaves you enough time to turn around for the 4th offensive jump. Then you hopefully finish him off with the next jump. The whole thing barely holds together. There is just enough time to link each action into the next, and each action is absolutely necessary.
I think that's as good of an explanation I can provide to the question of "why didn't they use the middle platform earlier?" It's not that we hadn't thought to use it. We just didn't know how.
Hope that helps!
Well done, it's a mean strat, and you are a legend ✌😁
Cool :)
That's just the way of it.
If you look up "the history of gravitational theory" then you will realise people know that gravity functions somehow, but trying to give reason to that function proves difficult . The process is just banging it out over and over, looking for solutions, until something of merit sticks.
That's just science.
It does help, thank you!
Legend
Update for anyone wondering about the current record: a runner named TheRetroRunner has with 11:36.834, beating Arcus’ time by over a second
It's down to 11:35.43 now
From fastest man to beat Ninja Gaiden to fastest man to make a Burrito
Arcus truly has come far...
Arcus' demeanor and humility makes him instantly likable. This man is awesome in every way
Connor Sturgeon I love how he says “CLONK!” when he hits the timer at the end
Connor Sturgeon Bob Ross of speedrunning
It's impossible to dislike someone patient enough to stay chill after failing to complete that perfect boss fight purely due to RNG for literally the 40,000th time in a row. Is this man even capable of experiencing the emotion of frustration?
Yeah until he started yammering on twitter about misgendering a woman.... So sick and tired of that shit... Just play games.. We all know your gay, whatever... Why does these people have to take on these goddam crusades..
@@attackroflchopter4403 what did he say?
"he's cheating by playing on an emulator"
Ohon: "OH YEAH???"
Best part of the video
@@marthflores3515 i like when he became a cowboy
West: "Using emu is cheating!"
Ohon: "I was giving you a chance West, now you leave no choice."
West: "We made a huge mistake."
Arcus: "Hold my hat."
21:22 is just so built up and the music is so catchy.
It might be my favorite moment of all @summoning salts. Thanks mister for that :)
I love this man's approach to cheaters. "This is the minimum context required to acknowledge that this person exists. However, they are ultimately inconsequential. Moving on."
Real life has enough conflict. Games are friendly competitions. Cheating at a game just shows how insecure you are in real life.
Never thought the sentence “Arcus could potentially save 6 seconds” would turn me on but here we are
Truly the Fastest Hand in the West
Not my proudest
Why did that turn you on lol
@@Amy-si8gq it is mine
Why is the stereotype that women don’t like gamers? Think about what that man could do with them
Shivering Erotic King Banana, my favorite Japanese speed runner.
ME TOO
god forgive me for what im about to do
@@Username-1939t9 🥶🍆🤴🍌
These are always so inspiring. Keep it up. This channel is amazing!
This is my favorite video by you. Your very good at telling a story and conveying the people and communities to outsiders.
Arcus' evolution into a cowboy was a plot twist I wasn't expecting.
His second evolution was funny.
I like how he got his third evolution in at the end, his character profile got so big the camera had to pan back and include the l-a-z boy.
I’m not a speedrunner, or even a gamer. I’m an older man who played these games as a kid and I haven’t played a video game in decades. I love the way these videos are structured and find them interesting. Well done sir.
This is my favourite video going. The escalating is super enthralling
I watched through this secretly wishing for an ending where somebody discovered a link to a video on a Japanese BBS server where somebody in 1998 got 11:30 while eating sushi and tending their tamagotchi.
I wouldn’t have been surprised