Behringer B5 Condenser Microphone Review - a Low Noise Pencil Mic

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  • The Behringer B5 is a quiet pencil microphone with a noise floor of -78dB. For a pencil mic, that's pretty good.
    It comes in a solid plastic case with two heads; one omni and the other cardioid, so it's two mics in one.

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  • @iancraig
    @iancraig  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A slightly smoother mic than the C2 with 3dB less noise.

    • @NoBodysGamer
      @NoBodysGamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which one would you recommend for Spoken Voice only [recording podcast] and its not very expensive, to be used in regualr room with Air conditioner, computer with fans and people in otehr rooms that might watch TV.
      I already got XLR Audio Interface [Tascam US-32 MiniStudio USB Podcasting Broadcast Audio Interface] so the mic can be XLR, no need for USB.
      P.S. I was recommended the Behringer Ultravoice Xm8500 Dynamic Vocal Microphone, but looking for more options since with the audio interface that I got i can use 48V phantom power so i open for more options.
      Thanks

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually Mr. House, I like this one, the B5. Lower noise than the C2 and choice of omni or cardiod capsule. It is a bit toppy, but I’d rather lower treble in post than raise it. The dynamic Behringer is very good for that kind of money. It doesn’t sound as ‘hifi’ as this one though being a dynamic. More rolled away in the treble and slightly more bass. It takes a lot to drive it as well by comparison, so preamp noise can become more apparent.

    • @NoBodysGamer
      @NoBodysGamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iancraig Thank you, do you have otehr recommendations? Sadly I cant buy this one, Im not from USA, so i can only buy the products that Amazon network [be it in USA or their European shops] ship Internationally and i just opened all their European branches and the US one and this mic is not shipped INT.
      Amazon is strange this way, one item can be shipped but another from same category even same brand cant.
      Have you heard about: MXL Mics 770 Cardioid Condenser Microphone
      Its 77USD on amazon right no

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. The MXL mic is a very nice mic. Very detailed sounding for the voice. Might pick up the room being a studio condenser. They also have another great one called a 990 I think it is. They’re really good for that kind of money.

  • @pauloalmaden
    @pauloalmaden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the thorough review, Ian.

  • @SonSantana
    @SonSantana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just bought a pair and I must say they came in a nice case where everything can be stored safely.

    • @0000song0000
      @0000song0000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah. mine too. bought in 2016

  • @thebusinessfirm9862
    @thebusinessfirm9862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review, mate.

  • @Arco326
    @Arco326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video !.. amazingly open / unbiased analysis of mic performance..

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Andi.

  • @chrisamadeus4647
    @chrisamadeus4647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A really thorough review, Thanks for sharing.I have used this in my studio for acoustic guitars and part of a multi mic situation and it's very decent, better than a lot more expensive condensers I own.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Chris. It’s a great budget option.

  • @jasonsaraj5350
    @jasonsaraj5350 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're a legend mate! Really enjoyed your review!

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Jason.

  • @pitukolitz
    @pitukolitz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    most excellent review, thank you!

  • @Iwanaplayonline
    @Iwanaplayonline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this Video ! Buying two right now.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice little mic.

  • @rikshaw2233
    @rikshaw2233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very good review of the B5.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Rickshaw.

  • @eladgariany
    @eladgariany 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for a pro review. Can tell you're a real pro!

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Elad.

  • @juandmartinez9265
    @juandmartinez9265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing! Greetings from Guatemala, I own a couple of b5, your video gave me a few new ideas to use them, I mostly use them to record Latin percussion.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent, juand. I have used them to record me playing congas a d they did really well.

  • @vinceenad303
    @vinceenad303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the review. You just sold me to the b-5 hehe

  • @eleafy
    @eleafy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the review 🙏 I will get this one.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s a nice mic.

  • @hidavidsum
    @hidavidsum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Ian. Enjoyed your vids

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank YOU for watching it.

  • @jamesyoung87
    @jamesyoung87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you this was very helpful and because of this I brought one of these mics for my Fylde guitar

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bet it works well.

    • @jamesyoung87
      @jamesyoung87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes it sounds fabulous

  • @sonysoni5079
    @sonysoni5079 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. Thank you.

  • @JoeCastellon
    @JoeCastellon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought this mic on sale for $30 USD, new. Out of the box, I was disappointed with the cardioid capsule as it had a horrendous noise floor. By horrendous, I mean it literally sounded like there was a fan blowing air directly into the microphone. It would barely pick up my voice. The omnidirectional capsule sounded great, but picked up sound all over my small studio. I tried contacting Behringer for the warranty, but they seem to make it really hard to do so, so I decided to just tinker with the cardioid capsule myself. After much trial and error, I accidentally realized that the internal components were "too tightly screwed" and that was causing the noise floor. I had disassembled the capsule and when I screw everything back together, I did so loosely and behold, problem fixed! It is now the main and only capsule I use and I LOVE how it sounds.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably, being such a cheap mic, quality control isn’t great! I am surprised at their attitude though; especially since it would have been cheap for them to replace. Well done for finding the problem though. Might be worth letting them know that there was a problem…. They might replace it…..

  • @Statist0815
    @Statist0815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An excellent video. Thank you.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m glad it was useful.

  • @ropeyarn
    @ropeyarn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I immediately heard the added wall reflection when overhead boom positioned.
    Lower noise means you can add some compression!
    I have two B-5 mics and my notes are that the cardioid effect is strong. They make slightly more noise than a SM58. Their small size makes them less intrusive for theater use.
    Who knew that the boomy Shure desktop mic would be such a hit with TH-camrs!

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TH-camrs seem to choose mics based on prestige and how they look I guess!

  • @timmillea
    @timmillea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the review. I bought a pair of B-5 mics on the strength of it along with a Behringer UMC202HD USB interface (as it has very low noise and the requisite 48V phantom power), and a cheap 'stereo bar', as a very versatile, ultra portable setup. I can now do XY, AB, ORTF stereo as well as the main cardioid + omni ambient techniques! I used to teach live sound recording at Huddersfield University and used some very expensive microphones. Once you start paying more, it is very quickly the law of diminishing returns and huge increase in bulk. I am simply shocked how good these mics are. Thanks again.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great. They are very surprising.

  • @jaimesk1688
    @jaimesk1688 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    B5 is great and clear...good deal

  • @jediviklmanson8435
    @jediviklmanson8435 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Спасибо! Качественный обзор микрофона. Думаю купить себе B-5.

  • @Rompler_Rocco
    @Rompler_Rocco 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So I seem to be learning that the slots around the sides of a capsule are all that determine the pickup pattern, and what makes a capsule omni is just the absence of those slots!
    So it appears that you can change any cardiod pencil mic into an omni mic by simply taping around those side vents?? Is this really true??
    ..yet another GREAT demo from my new favorite mic reviewer on TH-cam! 👍👍

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m not sure of the mechanics, Rocco. Very often, cardioids do have slots but I’m not certain it’s purely that causing the polar pattern.
      However, the slots are interference slots which do help to cancel out rear sounds. If you cover them, the tone of the mic might alter quite a bit and although it might become more ‘omni’, the body of the mic itself might block sounds from the rear slightly anyway.
      I know that most omnis I have used do sound slightly different on the back because of this.

    • @Rompler_Rocco
      @Rompler_Rocco 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@iancraig Thanks for the thoughtful reply! I suspect the same.. but thought maybe it had some creedence after reading it (even the omni tape 'hack') in a Sound on Sound review of a similar pencil mic (Monoprice 600700), and then noticing the same slot designs on the B5 capsules in your video.
      And please know I wrote that knowing many mic enthusiasts will see this video in the future, and I didn't expect you to take time out of your day to answer me personally.. but I certainly appreciate it :)
      ..And actually, I think I might test this out for myself (compare a B5 w/ taped cardiod vs omni).. and on the off chance the results are especially interesting, I'll let you know 🎤💡

  • @ngocehgayabebas2118
    @ngocehgayabebas2118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you sir

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome

  • @adimology
    @adimology 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Ian!
    Thanks for a good review
    I have a question for you.. Currently I use Samson C02 for my asmr unboxing channel.. but I always find that the noise was too high..
    I've save some money to buy a new mic and I have an option :
    1. Rode NT1a (super low noise but too harsh and big to get in the mic near the object)
    2. 1pc of Rode NT5
    3. a pair of B5 in X/Y or ortf setup
    if you were me, what mic will you choose?
    thanks

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Blimey that’s difficult. I’m guessing that you might really want stereo. You do pay a high price on the whole for low noise mics tbh.
      On a budget, a pair of B5’s might be best. Quite low in noise.
      Higher priced - Se Electronics SE7. (Lower noise) Although the Rode NT5 might suit you. Less harsh in the top and quite low noise. Two of either the SE7 or the NT5 would be expensive though.
      It’s a pity that the NT1a is too big and treble laden for you. The NT1 is slightly less treble filled.
      The Lewitt LCT240 is cheap and has quite good low noise, but again, it is probably too big and treble is strong.
      Are you sure you can’t use that clear treble for asmr? The Lewitt mics in particular have stunning detail. I use the LCT440 Pure and the LCT441 Flex. Both have amazing detail. Very crisp and extremely low self noise. I would have thought for asmr, you’d need real detail and the LCT’s have it in abundance.
      My most recent video has been recorded on both the lct440 and lct441 so you can hear them both there.
      The 441 Flex has multi polar patterns and is amazingly good for the price. They have a different type of shock mount which allows you to get the capsule close to cabinets etc.
      You can set the 441 Flex as a super cardioid and take it a little further back. In my video, I’m using the 441 boomed set as a super cardioid! Close up, I use cardioid. You also have open cardioid and omni plus figure 8 if you want to speak as well as record in front and even reverse polar patterns! I think it has 8 polar patterns in all and sounds great.

    • @adimology
      @adimology 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iancraig wow thanks for a blazing fast answer.
      Actually stereo is not a priority but B5 in a pair are vesy cheap that I can buy a matched pair 😁
      SE electronics not available in my country (Indonesia)..
      Do you think B5 has a much better self noise than samson c02 and on par with nt5? if so I can buy NT5 1 pc and save more to add another later.
      but if the noise not too much different I can buy b5 and improve my studio acoustic with the rest of the money (~$300 differences for a pair of B5vsNT5)

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the Rode is probably better than the B5. It has a little more weight. B5 isn’t at all bad though and noise is lower than the C02.
      The B5 is at 78dB which is OK.C02 is at 22 (a weighted) which comes out at just 72dB so it has double noise of the B5.
      Your English is amazing. I thought you were UK.

    • @adimology
      @adimology 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@iancraig that's a very kind of you :)
      Alright then, I will buy a pair of B5 and save some more money to get NT5 later..
      Thanks for all the answers, stay safe and healthy

  • @TexpatOTG
    @TexpatOTG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm looking for a pair of mics for interviews on the desktop or outdoors but usually on a tabletop. Do you think a pair of these would do the trick? I'm tired of lav sound and want something with a richer sound. Cheers from Saigon

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn't use stereo for speech unless there are two people. For a richer sound, you might want to consider a large diaphragm condenser like an MXL990 or MXL770. Even a Rode NT1a which has a little more treble bite or the more expensive NT1.
      Unless you want something unobtrusive. In an untreated room, a straight forward dynamic mic... Say a Shure sm57 or the smoother sm58?
      These pencil mics might be a little in yer face sounding by comparison to larger mics.

  • @yassharrathi1337
    @yassharrathi1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey, i was wondering this microphone would work handheld since i sometimes dont like the microphone being mounted on a boom arm i just want to hold it when im recording videos

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can hold it but it might pick more handling noise than a dynamic. When I hold them, I attach a little handle with a mount.

  • @man-lo1ve
    @man-lo1ve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi! One question. Y can buy te samson c02 or the beringjher b5. If you are un my situation who of this mics you buy? I want to record interviews. Sory for mi Inglés! And thanks

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My own personal choice would actually be a t.bone sc140, but between these two, for me the B5. It’s a bit quieter with self noise. Good transient response as well plus the fact that you can change the head to suit the acoustic.

  • @ILikeThatchannel
    @ILikeThatchannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi ian great review i have one question in your other video i noticed a fethead i guess a fethead phantom so what is the b5 like without it as i want to replace a noisy at2020 which i have about 8 inches away that with my goxlr has got too much self noise id appreciate your answer.......................GT

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Fethead doesn’t significantly alter its sound. It just minimises noise from the preamp. I can’t really hear any sound differences with or without although I know some people believe they do alter the sound. If they do, I think it’s more ‘theoretical’ tbh. They see something on a graph and then convince themselves that they hear it. I can’t tell with fethead on or off.
      You might be better off using the at2020 (although it’s not the quietest of mics) with a fethead to get your preamp down. Chances are that you might be hearing the preamp noise, not the mic if you are speaking so close to it.

    • @ILikeThatchannel
      @ILikeThatchannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iancraig THANKS IAN ITS A TOUGHIE BUT I WATCHED YOUR REVIEW OF THE T BONE 400 AND I THINK IM GOING TO GET ONE TO TIDE ME OVER TILL I CAN AFFORD A NT1 THANKS FOR REPLYING AND HELPING A FELLOW CREATOR OUT [ GAME TAKE ]

  • @braveclyde
    @braveclyde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice tests. Thanks for sharing. What recorder did you use? I'm using a Zoom H5 which does not have a very impressive preamp. Do you think the b-5 will need a lot of gain to record at -12db to -6db? If ever I purchase a b-5, it will always be attached to an overhead boom pole for filming indoor interviews in offices.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you. TBH, I can’t remember what preamp I used. The video was made a long time ago. I think it might have been a Tascam DR60e recorder.
      The B5 is pretty sensitive and has quite low self noise and it doesn’t need a lot of gain to drive it. That makes it quite quiet for a pencil mic. They are normally a little more noisy than bigger mics.

    • @braveclyde
      @braveclyde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iancraig Thank you! I will probably buy one soon. For the meantime, I will probably stick with my lavs for indoor interviews. Just one more question: if the room is not professionally treated but there's no echo as there are some office furniture absorbing the reflections, is it already safe to use a shotgun mic?

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you sure there are no reflections? Try recording with a lav suspended where the pencil mic will go. If the omni picks up room reverb, then a shotgun ‘might’ react badly. I find they go more bassy because treble frequencies bounce into the sides of the rejection tube and cancel out the front.
      If you want to use a shotgun, it might need to be very close in order to reject side reverb. Pencils don’t have rejection slots.
      If the room is dead, then a shotgun would be fine. Especially if noise creeps in from outside. If noise doesn’t creep in, a pencil would do.

    • @braveclyde
      @braveclyde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Ian!

    • @braveclyde
      @braveclyde 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Ian!

  • @thebusinessfirm9862
    @thebusinessfirm9862 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ian, have you ever compared the B5 to the Rode M5 pencil condenser?

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, sorry I haven’t.

  • @ricardogonzalez6701
    @ricardogonzalez6701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much for such a useful video. Do you think this mic would perform well on a boom for film dialogue recording?

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. It does work well on a boom. To be honest, it sells at a great price.

    • @ricardogonzalez6701
      @ricardogonzalez6701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iancraig Thanks. Very hard to find right now.

    • @ricardogonzalez6701
      @ricardogonzalez6701 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iancraig I bought one. Very disappointed. Needs too much gain in order to get a usable audio, too much noise, specially hiss.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven’t found mine to be noisy Ricardo. Maybe you have a dud? I imagine quality control might not be that good given the very low price of this. If you don’t like this one, then the t.bone sc140 is really good. Bit of a step up.

  • @navala7436
    @navala7436 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know why, but in other sound tests of this microphone on TH-cam you can hear considerable self-noise, here it's just the opposite. I guess it will be the room or luck that you get a quiet one.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did find it low in self noise. Certainly lower than the cheaper pencil mic that Behringer sell. Trouble with mics is that there can be so many variables, like the volume of your voice, distance from mic, preamp used etc. These things all put together might account for quite variable results.

  • @maribmadniofficial6411
    @maribmadniofficial6411 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this behringer b5 good for recording singing vocals? I want rich high sound without proximity effect. I want clean sound with less bass boost when getting closer to the microphone. Problem with the large condenser is when you get closer it creates more proximity but when step back in order to avoid proximity you loose feeling to be captured. I want an option in which i want to sing by getting closer to the mic without proximity and plosives.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Marib. I don’t think the I would use it for singing myself. It would work, but being a cardioid, it would pick up plosives. The omni head wouldn’t but it would pick up the room. Being just a 1/2 inch capsule means that it isn’t as rich sounding as a large condenser which is what I would use myself. In fact, I recorded some vocal stuff recently of me and I used a Rode NT1. It sounds great. I recorded at roughly 12 or so inches away and proximity effect wasn’t a problem. Trick is to wear headphones and move closer until you hear it kicking in and then reverse a bit. That way, you probably have it at its best.
      IMO, a pencil mic might not be rich or detailed enough for really good singing/vocal capture and a full size condenser is really the one to use for that kind of thing.
      I just had a look at your channel and the vocal recordings you have done. They’re great. An NT1 would really suit or cheaper .... an NT1a. Very low noise. Very detailed to capture the small nuances that you might need for the recordings you are doing.

    • @maribmadniofficial6411
      @maribmadniofficial6411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iancraig thanks for the quick reply, i will try this technique. I have lauten audio LA 220, before that i used to record on built-in microphone of my i-mac which was great. the problem with built-in mic is it has less punchy signal but feelings and tone is well captured. Problem with LA 220 is it has warmer full of proximity. What about picking up a mic with omni pattern as i heard it creates less bass boost even getting closer to the microphone.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      An omni can be really tricky, Marib because it will pick up wall and ceiling reflections more readily. The reason I suggested the Rodes is because they have a very crisp top end and they pick up voice harmonics well which would suit those vocals that you have recorded. In that kind of music, the harmonics of the voice and subtle things that those singers do would be captured superbly well, with a real ‘delicacy’ that you won’t get from a pencil mic. Another one I use is an AT2035. Nice sounding but not as quiet as the Rodes which have one of the lowest noise figures around.
      NT1a if you’re on a budget. It’s superb and when you first switch on, the noise is so low that you don’t think it’s on!
      Experiment with distance. Too close gives too much mouth noises and really close gives proximity. The crucial part is getting the distance right or even pointing the mic slightly away to alter the sound. Once you find that position, a shield placed at the mouth position ensures that it stays the same every time you come back. I love the NT1 for voice work. Really clean and even sounding. In my opinion, both NT1a and NT1 are a bargain.

    • @maribmadniofficial6411
      @maribmadniofficial6411 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iancraignice, what about AT2050, it has multi pattern option and studio project b3? I was checking them out. I believe nt1a has its own colour so every singer 40% sounds the same, reflections can managed by using appropriate room, when you get closer at omni you will get the stronger signal and gain on the interface can be reduced which will automatically reduce the noice. Rest of the noice can be manged in post.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The AT2050 is a nice mic as well. More self noise with Audio Technicas though as well. Don’t know the Studio Project mic.
      An omni would not have proximity effect but they are rarely used as vocal mics.
      I’ve not heard that said before about the Rode mics. The NT1 in particular is really flat in frequency response and is very sensitive, so it picks up a lot of sutleties.
      Be careful of going on a ‘merry go round’ with mics. So many people go through mic after mic when really, most problems can be solved with positioning distance and angle. (Plus of course, the room)
      Maybe a good listen around TH-cam might help you decide.

  • @zoltantoth1566
    @zoltantoth1566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It surprizes me that i hear no handling noise or noise floor at all, even though i see your arm moving while hand-holding and the mic is far from your mouth. But my Superlux TM58 produces significant amount of handling noise, even though it is a dynamic one and i am eating it.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, Zoltán - I missed your comment. The answer is in the preamp. Good preamps hiss less.

    • @bugeisha4621
      @bugeisha4621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iancraig Care to tell what preamp did you use for the test? Thanks

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For this video, I think I used a portable on-camera preamp. A Tascam DR600 mk II. Fed the signal straight into camera since there was no processing other than normalisation.

    • @bugeisha4621
      @bugeisha4621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iancraig Well, $180 preamp sure make a huge different i'd say. What do you think if i use the B5 with a regular phantom power, do you think it can come close?Thanks

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess so. Really, noise levels are only as good as your weakest link. The mic is VERY low noise for a pencil mic. I only have one other that is better from SE Electronics but that costs about £150 I think. The SE Electronics is at -81 dB but this one is at -78 so it's really quite good. A dynamic mic will hiss because of preamps. You have to put the gain up high and cheaper preamps will hiss much more.

  • @wellbeststarloonersmanners7844
    @wellbeststarloonersmanners7844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can it be used for oerhead drum

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Max SPL is 140 so I guess it’s ok. Might be a bit toppy for cymbals.

  • @MrHamit64
    @MrHamit64 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually make it 2 advantages. You can take the capsel off the B5 and make it Omni. The C2 is only Cardeoid. Now the other thing is yes for Stereo with the C-2 are only 55$ for the pare where the B5 1s are $69 a peace.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the C2 is way cheaper because you get two. Although, in effect, you get two with the B5 by changing those capsules. The C2 isn’t quite as smooth sounding in the treble as the B5 though and they have a bit more self noise. For some reason, I think the B5 is more expensive in the USA as well.
      If you don’t mind the higher noise floor and the slight treble edge, the C2 is a bargain at $55 for a pair.
      For stereo, you just need two mics which is more expensive, but hey, you get what you pay for in this case I think. The lower noise figure on the B5 is pretty good for a pencil mic.
      I don’t actually use stereo myself a great deal, other than for ambience to be honest. In those cases, it’s much easier to use a stereo recorder than set up two mics and leads. I think the stereo thing with the bar is more useful for people recording musical things, but I wouldn’t use stereo for speech.
      With music, the sounds tend to be much louder so you set the level way lower than you do for speech, so the self noise of the C2 isn’t a problem at all at -75dB. With the B5, you get an extra 3 dB which is a really good figure for a pencil mic; especially for recording speech in a quiet room.

    • @hamitcampos4989
      @hamitcampos4989 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      True that. Well ambiance is what i love recording. I'm now considering the B5s because of the omni thing. As for the trebble thing I like bright mikes. People hated the brightness of the NT1-A but I love it. to be honest though I want to actually record multy chanal 5.1 with my H6. That's why I got the H6. To do surround sound.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well Hamit, with something as good as the H6, you would benefit from the lower self noise and in my opinion, the sound of the B5 is very good. I also like the NT1a kind of sound but although the B5 is smoother, it still retains a ‘presence’ boost in the treble. The other thing as well is you can turn the high pass on for less lower presence if you want for sounds like say, waves so that you get a good top with less bloaty bottom end.
      For surround, it would be great if you combine the internal mics with two B5’s. You’d get a lovely low noise floor too.
      The omni is really nice actually. I didn’t do it any favours by using it indoors because it is naturally more prone to reverb etc. Outdoors, it really is open sounding. Also for close speech it’s great because you don’t get proximity effect so you can move the mic position really close to your mouth for clean speech, and take it away to pick up all round ambience. In fact, I prefer the sound of an omni if surrounding noise allows if I’m honest. They’re just less constrained sounding.
      I do like omnis myself actually. I was out in Menorca filming with just a GoPro for a month and throughout the month, I used an omni lavalier on it. Not the best indoors but actually, I really didn’t find it a problem outdoors either and we were in some crowded places. You can hear the sound in any of the videos I posted here in Menorca. All done with an omni lavalier.
      Outdoors, an omni sounds beautifully natural. It’s also less prone to wind hitting it. The B5 gives a noise floor of -76 with its omni capsule and that is still really good for a pencil mic. Especially lovely for capturing those really delicate softer sounds.
      If you feel that you need directionality, then you still have the cardioid head at -78dB noise floor which is excellent for a pencil.
      The only problem is stereo sound. I use either a cheap Zoom H1n, Tascam Dr05 or the Zoom H4n with their internal mics for that. The Tascam DR05 is great for that because its two mics point outwards (a/b) configuration rather than inwards (x/y) which gives a really wide sound. Carrying two mics on a bar with two leads and a recorder would be a bit cumbersome.

    • @hamitcampos4989
      @hamitcampos4989 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I'd use the B-5s with the omny to be able to then hold the active parts out by my ears to get an idea how wide my head is then just hold them out like that head wide. I would also use the cardioid for things like ORTF and stuff like that. But I want human head wide stereo. Yes for grab and go you're right the built ins can be enough. I sometimes use the H6 with it's built ins. But mainly i use it with my Audio-Technica AT-8022. Now yes you may ask woe you've got a $300 AT-8022 already. Why the hell go for these things then? Meh to again as I said get human head width. If I had the dough I'd actually go for the AT-8022 mikes. Which is the omni brother of the AT-4021. Which the 4021 is the daddy of the capsels in the AT-8022. But either of those ATs are $600 a pair.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m not sure the at8022 is still available in the UK. It’s stereo isn’t it? Funnily enough, I was also looking at an AT mic, the at875r which is a small directional mic, but as usual with little mics, noise is at -74dB although it does seem to sound good.
      I like the leeway that a lower noise mic gives if you need to mic from further away, so -74 for me is starting to get close to too much noise for me.
      I don’t think you’d be too disappointed with the B5. If anything, especially since you have a high quality mic, you might find the C2 comparatively ‘cheap’ sounding. To me, the B5 is a bit more refined and that with it’s low noise really attracted me.
      I really wish that it could have been driven with an internal battery as well though. For that, I’m now using a Red5 Audio RV4 but it’s not so quiet.
      For me, the challenge of recording in quiet environments is more important since noisy places are relatively easy. You just don’t have to worry so much about self noise, but the real challenge is in a quiet room. That’s when a good mic comes i to its own.

  • @MrHamit64
    @MrHamit64 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have any out doors stuff with these or the C2s I could listen too? Funny like you say that you should say the C-2 pair would sound cheepo compaired to my AT-8022. Because that is what Wess Anderson at Sweet Water kinda hinted at. I just couldn't ever really judge because al the C2 vids I had no idea what people had them connected to. I guess I kinda could see Wess's point as the 8022 is a modded pair of AT-4021s which are $300 a peace. Thus $600 for a pair and mind you not factory matched. Oh by the way and maybe you can find this out for me as you are in Europe. Audio Technica Europe clames in their vid of the 4021 that in Europe you can get a factory matched pair of 4021s in a wooden box and everything. If that be true then I guess when ever I am abel to do it importing them would be the way.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did a bit in my C2 video. You have to remember that Behringer is a budget mic maker and so may well not match in any way what you’re using now.
      I will be making a vid comparing the C2 and B5 so I’ll do some outdoors then.

    • @MrHamit64
      @MrHamit64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iancraig Yeah that's what Wess kinda seemed to be hinting at. So he then started showing me SE Electronics mikes. Now in that instance the SE8s do seem cool. They are $400 a pair so similar to 1 AT-8022. But you get Higher SPL. You get 159 DB. That's unGodly loud. Hell 141 DB SPL and you're in deap doo doo. Also like in the case here or with Rode's NT-5 mikes you can take the capsels off and make the mikes omni. For some reason though Sweet Water hasn't fixed their page for the SE-8s. It says nothing about interchangable capsels. Also Wess showed me their new SE-7s. These are $199 a pair factory matched, and their speks are similar to the AT-4021 mikes. Quality? Again There are few SE-7 vids and I have no idea what they are going into. Same kinda goes for the 8s. But in the case of the 8s I'm sold on how they can handle unGodly mad loud stuff. Well hell so can the SE7s and the 4020 AT mics. 156 DB is also unGodly loud as like I said before 141 DB and you are in surious surious trouble.

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SE Electronics make some very good mics as well. I think if you’re coming from higher end mics, all of the Behringers might well feel a bit of a let down to you. The B5 at least offers a decent noise floor for a pencil mic which is probably what you’d be more used to.
      It’s a massive market with loads of choices, that’s for sure.
      For me, the massively expensive mics are probably a bit too good for what I’m using for my films. I kind of draw a line around £200 because you get into diminishing returns the higher up you go.
      I can get terrific results from cheaper mics, but maybe they just take a little more work in post.

    • @MrHamit64
      @MrHamit64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iancraig Yeah I just want super studio movie audio. I was just looking into these as a for the moment kind of thing. Sure would I love to drop the $400 US on the SE8s? Hell to the yeah! or even the $600 US on the 4022 the omni bros to the 4021s? Again hell to the yeah. But for now to do the width of a human head meh I thought the B5s or the C2s would do. Now I get the feeling Anderson was kinda saying with signs with out actual words meh dude just save the dough up and just get the real thing. Yeah he didn't seem to take the Behringers too seriously. Meh I guess maybe compaired to my AT-8022 they may not be. Look up the 8022 on youtube and you'll find a guy whom records national parks with it in Sweeden. Georgen I think is his first name. I have the vids. Again I'm happy with my 8022. My only thing again was the spread. I like it's spread don't get me wrong. But I would like to spread out firther. Also I'd need more mikes anyways to do 5.1 surround. By the way on the surround thing I did do just that. I used the XY H6 snap off peace and the 8022 to compair them. The H6 mikes sound more condencery more of that Rode NT1-A brightness and stuff like that. Obviously they also can handle up to 138 DB. But well I don't like their spread. Cause of the XY thing. Even at 120 they aren't as wide as I'd like. My LS-14 from Olympus though it's 90 degrees since it's AB it feels wider. Pluss the mikes or more like just mike capsels are fisically more apart. They are so apart from each other that they can hug the AT-8022's plate where the mikes are. But yeah I'm real glad to have my 8022. it is the successor to the mike I've always wanted since 2006 but was never able to get. The famous Audio-Technica AT-822. Loved that mike. That one had it's capsels at 120 degrees. But dude it was epic. But as the 8022 can use phantum it's just that much more epic.

  • @anthonybishop190
    @anthonybishop190 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a XLR wireless adapter for this mic ?

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t know of one, Anthony. It needs phantom power and there aren’t any wireless transmitters that supply this.
      For mobile use I do sometimes use a Saramonic portable recorder which supplies phantom and records onto an sd card. No wires needed for that.

    • @anthonybishop190
      @anthonybishop190 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ian Craig many thanks Ian

  • @MrHamit64
    @MrHamit64 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meh then again as I want human head spread then maybe the omni brother the AT-4022 would be the way. Same price same mike quality. Just omni. This way it's 1 and done. What say you?

    • @iancraig
      @iancraig  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, at least you know what quality you’re getting.