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I swear I went “what was that chapter” at the end of it, I didn’t expect ANYTHING, I had so many theories but everything that did actually happen was so obvious as it was messed up
Alguien dijo que las ejecuciones aquí se sentían más inquietantes y fuertes porque no tienen miedo de que el personaje no se vea bien En danganrrompa incluso pasando por la ejecución los personajes se ven "estéticos", pero cuando Eva moría estaba llorando y desesperada por salvar su vida, con expresiones que acompañaban lo que sentía Estoy bastante de acuerdo con esa persona, la ejecución fue simplemente demasiado, ella no merecía eso
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This was quite literally the greatest thing I’ve ever seen. Every time I thought I had thought I had an idea of what was going on it completely changed. Very, VERY engaging I was on the edge of my seat the entire time. Phenomenal work! ❤️
So something I noticed is the cast is more alive then the Dangan games. Like we have people who are actually down to earth and care about everyone else like Desmond and Jean and etc. so if they become a blackened it would have to be something HUGE to make them betray the group like that as they all seem like down to earth and have morals and none of them genuinely wants to kill anyone. So instead of in games we can tell who may be a victim or who is a killer this will be a surprise each time truly as we don’t know what that big thing is that will make any of them break, or idk if I’m explaining it right. I also love how Damon isn’t just carrying the trials like the protags do. Everyone else seems to be on equal ground with Damon or at least everyone pitches in and brings up good points and evidence and advances the trial further rather then waiting on a Makoto or Hajime or Shuichi to do everything for them and come up with the Ah Ha! moments. Like even Kai and Cassidy and even JETT were keeping up with the class trials and using logic and deduction and seeing where everyone was coming from and put in their own info themselves and etc etc like really heavy. It’s also further showcased and I like how they made EVERYONE do the crime scene retelling and did it in their own way and interacting with each other during it like they are actually there and understanding and taking part in the killing game as a team effort. No more the protagonist is this genius or something. Does anyone else kinda see what I mean like? Idk if I explained it right lol.
No, you explained it pretty well, Eden's Garden does a damn good job at not making anyone feel usuless in the trail! And even with everyone being on the same general footing, Damon still shines in a way you expect from a protagonist, while also giving everyone a chance to actually do something and contribute to the trial.
exactly. Even outside of the trials every character feels alive. And they don’t just let their personality or talent just do it all. They are actually knowledgeable and helpful and pretty down to earth and based even in Daily Life or without the trials. Everyone was even helpful during the investigation. It’s like Kai for example. Going into Chapter 1 u coulda never expected or could tell he was gonna be so good in the trial like he was or follow along or do things and engage and keep up and come up with conclusions. Or Cassidy or Jett. It’s like a switch flipped on whenever deadly life started and everyone was like “ok we ACTUALLY gotta lock in”. It’s like everyone is as smart as the protagonist and all are on equal footing. Even everything down to their emotions and etc are like a MCs.
I wouldn't say Naegi and Hinata were carrying the class trials (though I will agree in Saihara's case, even if Ouma also held the brain cells at times), since they had Kirigiri and Komaeda respectively to string them along to solve the cases. However, your point still stands that Eden's Garden does a great job at having EVERYONE contribute in the class trials, not just the Protag-Antag-Support trio.
Interesting that the name of the execution refers to a passage in the Bible, specifically the Book of Isaiah 48:10 "Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction." This ties to the game's biblical theming, which means that the other executions might also be named after passages from the Bible.
I also love how Eva sounds similar to Eve, the first to fall into Satan's temptations (like how Eva was the first to fall into the killing game's temptations)
@@weird_mango42 And more specifically, the traitor quirk was technically the "apple". Also I think it was rigged so that Eva would be the first blackened.
SPOILER WARNING I honestly really love the fanbase and the characters' parallels on Wolfgang and Eva. Wolfgang was someone the whole cast liked and followed as their leader, while Eva was the outcast that no one trusted. While in the fanbase Wolfgang seemed suspicious and evil and Eva seemed sweet and misjudged. However the true nature of these two characters was completely different. Wolfgang died, pitied and respected by the other students, his behaviour turned out to be genuine (at least it's hinted that he was really trying to be good) while Eva died as someone tragic, hated by everyone else and as someone who hated everyone, not what you'd expect from your typical antag and support, red herring or not
@@questionmarkquestionmarkques by everyone else I only meant the students not the fanbase. Although many people are hating on Eva for what she did to Diana
The thing is, Eva only became the culprit BECAUSE Wolfgang isolated her and made her and Damon easy targets. It caused them to both to with hold information (Damon was the one who told Eva not to tell the others about the poster in the Pharmacy because no else trusted them) and meet with Tozu privately (conspiring to get information behind Wolfgang's back), and eventually led to the killing game starting. He was a genuine and good man, but as Damon, Eva, and Tozu said, he was _dangerously_ naive and misguided. He was not fit to a be a leader in this scenario, and that's why he ultimately died. If he had just kept his mouth shut before they investigated the Pharmacy, Eva almost certainly wouldn't have been so paranoid. Not that he's entirely at fault, but his need to enforce moral superiority over those he disagreed with was still toxic. And.. I really don't think Eva would've killed anyone if not for Tozu forcing her hand. She wanted the traitor perk because she thought having it would help increase her chances of survival in a group that kept targeting her. She clearly didn't think it would force her to kill someone _immediately_ after she found it. Her opening up to Damon in private and apologizing for putting him in this mess after he came to her aide in Ch0, was clearly just her way of getting closure and coping with her guilt. He was the first of her peers to ever trust her as a person, and now, she had to abuse that trust in order to live. _Of course_ she was going to be angry and bitter during the trial. What else can she draw from this scenario other than: "None of this would've happened if the others hadn't isolated and targeted me (like everyone else has in her life), and now I have no choice but to betray the few who might actually care about me."
People calling this is wasted of "you know" potential may forgot that...This is chapter 1. It's too soon to judge characters potential. In fact, all characters hold equal potential.
The factor is that there was a 2 year wait between prologue and Chapter 1. Beautiful case but there's no problem in saying they felt wasted, I do love both victim and killer 😭 but I can't wait for what Chapter 2 will bring to the table
SPOILERS (like really heavy spoilers DONT CLICK IF YOU ARENT DONE) . . . . . . . . When Eva died, I kept thinking about the genius who thought of her execution, and don't forget about those who animated it. The animation was so devastating because she shed tears, and even without audio you could tell she was screaming in pain. But despite all that, her will to live outshone those and told her to just live. Her execution using a fire and a conveyor belt made me think about how no matter how much you walk in the opposite direction of a conveyor belt, it will take more effort than if you just walked the other way. Eva could've gave up on all her other interests, and became just a mathlete like people expected, but she didn't. She tried her best to show people that she was so much more than just a mathlete with her papers, but no one would listen. They'd tell her she was great at math(throwing MATH TOOLS AT HER DURING THE EXECUTION) and it pushed her down into the fire. But she still wanted to show the world who she was. And when she reached out to her peers, (Cara Koskinen in the execution) she was only let down further. TLDR: The execution was so well done everytime I see it I actually break down in tears Eva was so cool
I did a whole analysis of it SPOILERS- She climbed her ladder, as she was pressured into becoming a mathelete. The fire was symbolic of nothing being left if she didn't succeed. She quite literally climbed to the top as well as putting literal blood, from the math tools, sweat from the heat of the fire and the energy needed to survive, and tears from the pain into her efforts. I don't know if the dummy at the end is supposed to be someone we don't know, or close to Diana on appearance but either was this is what I got. It was symbolic of her whole life start to end.
@@LocalDragonman I was thinking the same thing about the fire 😭 I just had no idea how to word it. "If she gave up, she'd be forgotten. If she died in the fire, nothing would remain." Something like that, but I didn't know if I should've included it.
(POSSIBLE SPOILERS) If im gonna be honest, I don't really want a nagito/kokichi antagonist. While yes, they're interesting characters, I want an antagonist like Byakuya, someone who's not full on "evil/crazy", rather someone whose morally grey, or is the complete opposite of the protagonist. If theres one thing Danganronpa does in its games, its create a message with antonyms, like "Despair/Hope" "Truth/Lies" etc etc. Im not 100% sure where PED is going in this direction. I think the message for this game is Hope/delusion?? Not really sure, but I have a prediction about how this games gonna go. In every Danganronpa game, theres always atleast one character who will be different from the rest of the cast, someone who doesnt agree with everyone else's beliefs, Ex, Byakuya, Nagito, Kokichi. In this game, we're the antagonist, (to everyone else atleast.) Damon, like everyone else, wants to escape, but doesn't like to believe in all that false hope stuff. In the prologue, he talks about how useless everyone's talent is, causing a majority of the cast to dislike him. One of those people who still had hope for him being Diana. I feel like Diana's gonna be the antagonist for this game and Im all for it. After the class trial ended, she made this speech on how she's gonna "continue Wolfgang's legacy" and try to find justice. During the prologue, Im pretty sure Wolfgang was the antagonist? (Im not 100% sure, to me it was kind of confusing on who was who.) Now that he's dead, we have someone picking up his legacy. Unlike the other antagonists, Diana isn't morally evil or even grey, so far, she seems like someone who wants to step up and save everyone. I feel like Diana doesn't fully think Damon is a terrible person, we've seen her try to be friendly with Damon and I doubt she's gonna stop acting friendly towards him. In my opinion, this game is a breath of fresh air from the stereotypical Danganronpa game, it feels more realistic than the others (Hope that makes sense.) I wish for the best with this game and am 100% for chapter two!
I love stories that don't shy away from the morally grey and P:EG really is a breath of fresh air! I think presuming that there's only going to be a single antagonist is a mistake, though. P:EG has mentioned how it's not going to follow a set DR formula so I wouldn't be surprised if there's shifts in roles as the game progresses. I agree that Diana is set to be the next antagonist via misguided positivity, but she may grow beyond that or even die next chapter as the story explores more themes and characters. I'm really excited to see however things unfold!
@@dandeliondaffodyls1426 your so right, I was thinking about this a few hours ago. I love the idea of having more than one antagonist. It just makes a lot of sense since majority of the cast doesn't really see Damon as a good person. I really hope Diana lives through trial two though 😭 I wanna see how she's gonna step up and try to lead everyone (shes also my second favorite character after Wolfgang, I cant lose my top two in a back to back chapter)
@@PrincessAlliOfFreaks I think Diana is gonna be the type of antagonist that challenges Damon’s beliefs throughout the story, while a character like Wenona is going to be closer to that byakuya role.
Exactly, it's so well done, the only thing that could be improved is probably the non stop debates with a much more smoother animation after shooting the truth bullet. If they updated that in the future, this is literally like a real official Danganronpa game!
@@batalayar glad there's people who agreed with me, I don't wanna criticize much because for a fan game this is already above impressive. Like you said the vfx could still use a bit of improvement, and probably slightly better design on some of the class trial graphics.
Just as Danganronpa did, it really hits with the overwhelming feeling when a character you liked very much ends up dying, especiallly from another character you liked, amazing work from the team
Yes, but unlike Danganronpa, where it's very difficult to get into the fandom without knowing who dies and who doesn't, this game leaves you stunned since it's relatively new, making it easier to avoid spoilers.
Exactly @@AkiraChileno SPOILER WARNINGn For all the previous daganronpa games I got spoiled on all the victims and blackened characters before playing so i made sure not to get attached to any of them. However for Eden, obviously, I got no spoilers going in so I wasn't as cautious and ended up getting attached. I loved Akire so much, he's literally the main reason I got into this fangan since his character archetype appealed to me so much and he genuinely seemed like a character who would last for long (and many others felt the same) so seeing him die first made me feel a genuine pain I've not felt in a long time from any form of media. Forgot how much it hurts to see a character you like die, especially early.
I am slowly starting to believe that the "dummy victim" in the prologue was actually Wolfgang's sister (same hair as his mother) and that he might have projected her on Diana when he was hallucinating, something like that. I also remember that weird interaction between Diana and Damon from the day before (check the previous daily life video at 4:20:06), that one hasn't been adressed in the trial at all so I assume it's being kept for later, which once again mean there might be more to Diana than what was shown here... spoiler for this video : Also the big irony in the dummy being used for assisting in the execution of Wolfgang's killer, revenge even in death
Also your theory could explain Wolfgang’s actions during the prologue, as he was the only person emotional about it despite everyone else not really caring since it was a dummy (I could be wrong it has been a while since the prologue)
@@burhaan9017 Go in the daily life video at 4:20:06, Diana approach Damon right before entering his dorm and seems to be trying to get infos out of him, while the exchange seems normal it's clear that the way she came to Damon is weird and Damon suspect himself she might have tried to get something out of Damon that would have served her interest (?). It's possible that, naratively, this first trial trial framed Diana as some kind of pure innocent but who knows, she is the chameleon of the group after all. Also she is a pink hair girl in a killing game hosted by guy with the same voice as monocrow lol (for those who knows the ref)...
I had the exact same thought about Wolfgang & Cara although I think it might be likelier that they're a bit more distant than siblings (since they have different last names). maybe cousins or smth?
(Spoiler warning) I can’t believe nobody’s talking about Damon Damon is one of the smartest expectation-subverting characters I’ve ever seen. Despite being the protagonist, he acts much more like an antagonist. His actions are powered by what he has to gain. For example, Damon letting the others investigate the pharmacy so 1, he wouldn’t get ganged up on again, and 2, to uncover the secret Tozu talked about for himself as well as not giving away the fact that he had Wolfgang’s blackmail just to make sure he didn’t get accused. Despite that, he isn’t one-dimensional. He does at the very least respect the other ultimates, and maybe even care about them. He’s said time and time again that he respected Wolfgang, and it was his empathy peeking out that prevented him from doubling down on Diana being the culprit. He even ended up genuinely trusting Eva before coming across the revelation that she was the culprit of Wolfgang’s murder. Despite the trial, he’s still the same character. He’s still arrogant and cynical. Wolfgang and Diana’s naivety still piss him off beyond end. He’s just so smartly written and a very realistic character. Danganronpa will always hold a very special place in my heart, but I think I already like P:EG more.
When you think about it it’s really heartbreaking. Sure he was being a bit self centered but he meant well when he said they shouldn’t trust each other so easily, yet it’s obvious he was willing to understand Eva, heck maybe even trust her a bit because she was smart with her “not trusting anyone” mindset, and yet she is the first person as the blackened I honestly couldn’t ask for a better person to be blackened though, there were days going on in the chapter and nobody died, they had the stuff to live and support, and almost everyone wanted to band together, and even if the traitor thing came into play, only two people didn’t want to trust and work together, our protagonist who despite his selfishness isn’t really a bad person, and the outcast who already was antagonized and constantly jabbed at by the groups “leader”, and also seemed selfish as it was, it was not only realistic but a damn good plot twist I also found it really interesting that apparently Eva and Wolfgang weren’t actually going to be the antag and support to our protagonist, if the game does end up doing that then I’m wondering if Kai will take the role of support, and since Diana is becoming the new Wolfgang she will be the antagonist or something Wolfgang was not only the leader but also someone who was smart and kind towards the others so with him gone, who’s to say that these “morals” of the people will remain
SPOILERS BELOW Eva is a perfect example of what Sayaka would have become had her plan worked. I really love the writing in this chapter and how it used elements from all three mainline DR games to make a first case. Damon being betrayed by someone he trusted, like what Sayaka tried to do to Makoto, a blackout during a get-together like DR2, and losing two of our most influential characters due to getting rid of our antagonist and support, which is kind of similar to V3's Kaede as they set her up as the all important protagonist only to subvert that by killing her, and now they've done the same with Wolfgang AND Eva, by setting them up as our support and rival and getting rid of them. The Eden's Garden Team did such a good job, and I'd argue that I enjoyed this a lot more than the three mainline games we have. I really enjoyed going into the chapter blind without being spoiled, and I'm only expecting it to get better from here.
I think the "they use elements from all three mainline games" thing also actually ties in nicely to the whole "history repeats itself" theme the game is going for (on a meta level obviously I'm aware it's a separate universe)
SPOILER AND THOUGHTS ON EVA'S CHARACTER. I think people are missing the point a bit. Eva isn' just a traumatized good person, she is a bad person as a result of her trauma and emotional baggage. (She has tridimensional feelings, I know, but that is exatcly why I am saying this). It is her feelings of isolation and paranoia which made her a resentful, sadist person, full of misantrophy (You heard her and saw how she manipulated Daimon and all she did to Wolfgang and Diana. You can't deny that she is malicious at best). She had been treated unfairly all her life, and as result, she became someone obsessed with what she deserved, who had at the same time both a superiority and inferiority complex.
She also had a victim complex. When people bring up how she killed the man who could've kept them together she says she would've died first and someone else would've, there's no real evidence right now that would be the case. When Diana says that she wanted to be her friend she only acknowledges how Diana wasn't 100% against Wolfgang and apparently that meant she deserved to be roped into her murder plot (which she could've very well have been killed in the process) and be framed. When Desmond says she was only trapped into having to murder because she went back on everyone first she automatically puts herself in a victim role of being killed, not even framed *being killed* Her life outside was miserable and the people who bullied her for being a math elite have much to be ashamed of but she became worse than them when she killed someone and attempted by proxy everyone else.
Tldr on ramble: don't let any self contempt or outside negativity spiral into this because you'll suffer the most in the end. I wonder if the people who bullied her even know half of the damage they've caused...
She's not remotely a sadist, and never displays sadistic once in the chapter. Being bitter and resentful of the people who walked all over her and shunned her over the course of her life didn't mean she wanted to kill someone. She was pushed to it by extreme circumstances.
@@DLxxx Killing Wolfgang the way she did and infront of Diana is extremely cruel. Specially after choosing her, someone who tried to comfort her and help, just because she respected Wolfgang. Her desire of revenge against Wolfgang (who although being a bit extreme, was genuinely trying to do the best for the group) and Diana translated in a desire to hurt *them* specifically.
4:46:14 omg I love how the killer is actually properly defending themselves and even has a plan for what happens if they get revealed in the trial.. to frame someone ELSE and stay calm etc.. this trial is very well done!
So... Seem like Wolfgang and Eva were the fakeout rival/support. And it seem like Diana is going to be the one that challenge Damon's ideology and Kai is going to be Damon's actual support. This will be interesting.
if kai is going to be the protagonist’s support/side kick, i’m not ready for chapter 5 😭 kyoko kirigiri (only if you get the bad ending) chiaki nanami, & kaito momota 💔 coincidentally, they all have a K & I in their names. including kai. (i’m probably just reaching)
Why do i feel like damon is gonna pull a teruko from despair time lol. I mean it would make sense if he gives off an antag vibe in the next chapters after this, this would be a good opportunity for a villain arc /hj. But i feel like it would be interesting, considering were playing as him
Directly after the trial ends, Damon Maitsu's name doesn't disappear until they start talking about how the generator exploding doesn't violate any rules. May want to fix that later guys. Edit: it's from 5:17:40 to 5:19:37 if the y'all want to know where specifically.
SPOILERS:::: One thing that I'm TOTALLY beating myself up over is figuring out the culprit. Of course, I figured it out once we cleared Diana's name pretty quickly, but I feel like I should've known since, well, before the prolog even came out. Damon and Eva, in both their names and their promotional art, seem to have often been related to Adam and Eve --- so of COURSE Eva would be the first blackened!?!?!?! Eve was the first person to sin!!! Like I've pulled out SO many random biblical references and that one was never on my radar????? Side note, looking through the lens of the Christian idea of 'original sin' in which everyone is inherently sinful ever since sin entered the world (because of Eve's action in the garden) is a really interesting thing to explore in context of the story now
Hey for people who don't want to be spoiled during the stream you guys should not have the live chat on. There are guaranteed to be people in the chat who are going to spoil who the Blackened is.
SPOILERS ABOUT CHAR It's so sad how no one ever thought of Eva being anything more than a mathlete. With applications of math in every field and use in the world, the fact no one ever took her seriously despite how hard she worked and proved to use her math knowledge in other fields only to be looked down is depressing. Even when she expressed her feelings for why she killed, all her peers still invalidated her. Her entire life no one ever took her seriously or capable even Tozu at the end made a joke. She became so untrusting of people, never believing they cared for her well being. Damon may have been the only person she trusted, and felt betrayed by him during the trial when he revealed her plan. Maybe people don't think she has the the most tragic story and don't feel sorry for her, just like her peers, but that feeling of having been invalidated your whole life, told that your life would be good if you listened to what people said you should become. Makes you feel powerless, hence why she took up the liar title earlier. She was spouting so much stuff like "I'm always the one people hate" "None of you actually care about me" "I'll never...get what I deserve", that it implies her whole life she was dealing with so much psychological problems that were simply brushed off because she does math. Not really a talent most would sympathies any hardships with. Which really sucks, and why Tozu specifically targeted her to put as the traitor with how terrible she was mentally. If Wenona never looked at the tablets and revealed her talent, maybe she would not have been mentally taken advantaged of.
Fr! It was interesting to see someone like her who carried herself like Kirigiri wanting friends and feeling belittled and forgotten. Someone who was actually bothered when people ganged up on her, but it wouldn't be believable cus she would seem pretty indifferent. What she did to Diana purely out of spite because of her poor mental state is just a glimpse of just what she might have been through her whole life to become someone like that. I feel bad that nobody except Diana (even after what Eva did to her) took her feelings and reasons seriously. I feel bad because Eva wasn't able to see that Damon and Diana genuinely cared for her and were genuinely hurt by her betrayal, and everyone will only hate her because it's easy to gloss over how bullying, hatred and loneliness can affect a person's trust in the kindness of other people, which is why Eva shouldn't be at fault. I used to be pretty indifferent to her myself cus I just thought she was a Kirigiri but I was absolutely BLOWN AWAY with how she turned out to be someone completely different and she quickly became my favourite character in the whole game. I also love the fanbase and the characters' parallels on Wolfgang and Eva. Wolfgang was someone the whole cast liked and followed as their leader, while Eva was the outcast that no one trusted. While in the fanbase Wolfgang seemed suspicious and evil and Eva seemed tragic and misjudged. However the true nature of these two characters was completely different. Wolfgang died, pitied and respected by the other students, his behaviour turned out to be genuine (at least it's hinted that he was really trying to be good) while Eva died as someone hated by everyone else and as someone who hated everyone, not what you'd expect from your typical antag and support, red herring or not
I too thought she would be a character like Kyoko, and so I never cared about her. But with the way things played out, I felt genuinely horrible for her. Props to the writers for making her more nuanced and complex then I expected.
Same, I honestly couldn't NOT feel sorry for her.. Imagine, trying everything you can do to be seen more than a mathlete for your whole life only to find yourself desperately running up a conveyor belt while sharp math tools Pierce and rip through your skin and flesh... She definitely didn't deserve to go out that way
I really liked how complex her character is, and it was pretty frustrated how she was invalidated at the end, good writing! There's so much going on with Eva that she became one of my favourite characters. I really appreciated how in depth her plan was and not to mention the artists and voice actors who did an amazing job on the sprites and voice when she was losing her mind. I love how she was grasping at every straw until there was nothing left, there was also that cool reference to Eve being tempted by the snake. Everyone did such an awesome job in this chapter!
@@Mysticist6641Your analysis on Eva is how I exactly I empathize with her so much they really outdid themselves with her and Im gonna miss her also, I LOVE how GOOD her plan was like actually she gotten so far not being suspected and even still I was so shocked, Like this plan was genuinely one of if not the best kill plan ive seen in dangan/fangan in general like I actually believe she couldve gotten away with this if one little thing couldve changed
Because the character actual felt emotion while they’re being killed. Most official Danganronpa execution have the characters be surprisingly chill with it (not all but a lot of them)
I got spoiled for who the killer was on tiktok but I still played the chapter and I was SHOCKED. I did not expect that person to be the victim at all and I’m just mindblown. I love this fan game so so much!
i was so sure Eva will be support and Wolfgang the rival, now i am lost who the rival will be (support could be Jean or Desmond aka the two who helped the most in the trial)
SPOILERS When I watched Eva's execution... There was only one thought I could hear in my mind. "Is this even real?" Not a SINGLE Fangan has EVER made me think that way, not even ONCE! And this is only Chapter ONE! God damn, when the devs said we weren't ready for what they were cooking, they were serious! Can't wait to see the rest. You guys take all the time you need in the kitchen to cook up the next five courses of this gourmet meal!
Spoilers for the culprit - Proceed with caution. Eva's Argument Altercation quotes are likely not leaving my head anytime soon. Eva's voice actor was utterly incredible in that last stretch of the chapter. "IT'S DAMON WHO'S SUSPICIOUS"
[SPOILER TERRITORY. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK] Okay first off amazing chapter as a whole! Secondly Eva being the killer was definitely not something I was expecting, I honestly expected her to last longer, but her character is honestly so damn interesting and complex. I also don’t blame Damon for being pissed off at Diana’s whole words about “Following in Wolfgang’s footsteps” especially after Wolfgang made him an outcast. Speaking of Damon, he is honestly one of the most interesting protags cause he subverts what a regular protag would be similar to Teruko from DRDT. Wenona and Desmond are also favorites of mine as well. But I don’t exactly like Grace, I’m just hoping that her ego got knocked a peg from this chapter, or she will get humbled later. That being said I need to talk about specifically the P:EG community. I’m just gonna say this outright don’t say you want more flawed female characters in Fangans if you can’t even handle Eva’s character, I don’t want to hear any of you saying that if you’re not even willing to understand Eva. Secondly, I’ve seen this same damn comment about wasted potential or some crap. I’m sorry would you rather them kill someone who had no development whatsoever thus killing any chance of that character developing? This is Danganronpa, you can’t just develop every character before two or more of them has to be killed off, especially when you have a cast of 16 different people, how exactly do you expect to get a full development of a character before they are a victim or a culprit, it’s fundamentally impossible with this sort of thing to develop a character fully before they are killed off. I’m sorry if you want more development for Wolfgang and Eva, but don’t go blowing up at the people behind this project just because they couldn’t fit a whole full game character development INTO ONE CHAPTER FOR TWO PEOPLE IN A 16 PERSON CAST THAT ALSO NEEDS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL! If you care about this project and its community, then actually support this project with positivity instead of getting pissy when your favorites are killed. Oh boo hoo your favorite character got killed? Cry me a river, this is freaking Danganronpa get over it already.
Every character has loads of potential, I can see tons of AU's and differing plotlines where Wolfgang and Eva live longer, and that's generally what Danganronpa stories should feel like. Both of them were great characters who would have served the story well. Someone has to die early on, and these two were mutually great. After just finishing the chapter, I'm surprised to hear there's controversy surrounding Eva allegedly. But I suppose some people lack media literacy. Eva's a largely unsympathetic killer that killed in a really degrading yet clever way, who did what she did because of a multitude of factors the game led up too. What she did was awful, but you can understand why she did what she did. Throughout the entire trial people were still making fun of her talent and undermining it.
I agree. However, I do think they had huge extreme potential, I would’ve liked to see their characters more, but thats quite with every character in P:EG. The game devs themselves said that this fan game isn’t going to have the same beats as Danganronpa. Just because it’s a fan game of the real thing, we should still treat it as a separate game. Spoilers below - But moving on, I don’t know why, but I really think Desmond and Damon are going to be a locked duo, despite them not being dorm mates. You can see in the interaction of the chapter that they both more or less respect each other, with Damon saying “he’s one of the few normal students,” and Desmond being pretty chill with Damon, despite his speech from the mock trial. I hope Desmond does become important. I like his more chill attitude, and I think with Diana possibly being the antagonist of the story, with her being probably a nod or a parody to the whole Danganronpa hopeful protagonist (she does have the pin), it would be basically a weird way of Optimism vs Realism, especially with how the other characters reacted to her speech (which was pretty funny).
Honestly I really resonated with Eva, she really reminded me of myself in a way, feeling completely shunned by everyone was a feeling I related heavily to. Grace really annoyed me this chapter, I used to love her bold and fearless she was but now its just plain annoying and enraging. Anyways I think Eva's character is already incredibly fleshed out and I really enjoyed it. Although what she did was cruel I will never hold her for it, the fact is no one stood up for her against wolfganfs treatment of her and Damon even with someone supporting you on the sidelines it fucking hurts when you see people supporting the man that's isolating you from others. While I love insane characters Eva's character is probably my favorite out of all females because of how much I resonate with her lol
Sorry I wrote this after finishing the class trial right before this gameplay bcs how amazing they choose wolfgang and all thing happen in class trial that show how complicated this murder ***SPOILER*** everything that happened in the prologue class trial really affects chapter 1 and maybe other chapters in the future, also I really love how eva act like a killer in first chappet, give all she have, using her talent to making a crazy mechanism for her killing Wolfgang and Damon could have been Eva's targets, if only Damon didn't support Eva's opinion (that maybe affects Eva emotion bcs its her first time have someone who agree with her), makes it possible for him to be Eva's target seeing how Wolfgang and Damon are the spearheads of the class trial and will make it difficult for Eva to win After Wolfgang died, everyone who was previously in the prologue class trial just said yes or didn't really want to participate or agree with all of Wolfgang's opinions, slowly in the chapter 1 trial they started to express what they wanted to say, regardless of whether it was related to Wolfgang's death or not (like Eloise, Kai, Toshiko). As for some poeple who still wanna understand how wolfgang could be killed and be part of the discussion Wolfgang showing his fangs, then became Eva's target, showed a completely a LOGICAL thing that not happen in canon danganronpa series in the first chapter that the first killer would never choose the right target to make they win to escape if only the prologue class trial had never happened, then there would have been the same cliche murder as danganronpa or fanganronpa before. "Killing someone who easily changes the flow of discussion and has sharp instincts" is a logical thing that all of them get from observing the prologue class trial (seeing how strong and important wolfgang is in class trial). Eliminating Wolfgang will reduce the percentage of the possibility that the killer will be caught.
That's been my biggest problem with the main games and the fan games. It's too easily predictable and like stated the smart characters always last til chapter 5 before getting offed in some way. I'm happy two of the three most intelligent members of the group gone in a single trial. While playing or watching these I always get annoyed how people set themselves up to be easily caught in trials. I would've done the EXACT same thing as this killer. You eliminate somebody who is a threat to you escaping, then let the idiots squabble amongst themselves while you divert the facts.
Spoilers of course - I 100% agree. It was definitely either Wolfgang or Damon who was going to die. Both being strong in their regards of being smart and having good critical thinking, just the only true difference between the two was that Damon had no one on his side and Wolfgang having everyone under his fingertips. Eva had more of a chance of winning if she killed Wolfgang, as it left the whole team discombobulated, and without his critical skills of being a lawyer, finding the killer would be much harder. And during the trial, less people would want to listen to what Damon had said, as pointed out, Damon didn’t like Wolfgang at all. I feel like the thing that truly spoiled Eva’s plan was how Damon went to the gaming tournament. If Kai didn’t sign Damon up, she probably most likely pinned the blame on Damon, won, and got out of it alive. Realistically, if it were up to me if I was in this situation after the death of Wolfgang, I would definitely either aim for Damon or Ulysses, especially if I knew about Ulysses not being able to smell. I wouldn’t go for Wenona since she, although is very smart, isn’t as intimidating compared to Ulysses’ book filled with information and Damon being a strong debater who technically solved 2 cases already.
@@ApoIIo_ I really like you pointed 'Damon didn't like wolfgang' as he really show it on his every monologue. But than in class trial he said something that kinda off, he hate but respect. I mean okey I'll buy that word but what happen after Diana declare will step on be wolfgang role? Ofc Damon inner will react exact same thing as he really really hate that but I'm sure he can hide it from his face Damon is one complicated character, in trial he hide his feeling when try to unmask eva killer face, but when saw her deatn Damon tears comes down
SPOILERS Those who call this Chapter wasting potential, I would agree but disagree at the same time Eva and Wolfgang were both portrayed as important characters, and I think having them both dead not only contributes to big ass element of surprise setting a good head start, but also makes A LOT of room for all the other characters to shine If Eva and Wolfgang stayed alive, the rest of the cast would've might taken a more backseat role But now that they are gone, it leaves them to take the spotlight (Kai being the new support, and Wenona being an antag or smth) Anyways this Chapter was dope in setting the beginning of the fangan, and you can't change my mind
Kind of spoilers...? I keep thinking that what Wolfgang hallucinated was his father, like the blackmail was written "like father, like son beneath a sheeps skin hide's a wolfish mind" and him saying "I'm not like you, I'll never be like you" and stuff. I'm curious what his father did, maybe from when he said "bring her back" he might be referring to his mother, that i think his father might have killed. Yeah i just thought that was incredibly interesting and I'm also super curious😅
Apparently in Free Time Events, he said her mother was a lawyer and admired her. It seems like he thought Diana was her mother because of the resemblance they have.
1ST CHAPTER EXECUTION SPOILERS AND ANALYSIS! Eva Tsunaka's Execution Analysis by ReynTheWorld We know she introduced herself as the ultimate liar and it's even crossed out in the text of her execution name with her real talent being below it in bloody text, because it was revealed in the chemistry room that she actually lied about her actual talent It's also a nice detail that as the ultimate mathlete the things she's being hit by in her way of escaping are tools used in math, it symbolises how she can't escape from that talent and how it'll keep coming back to her and making it worse no matter how hard she runs away from it and tries to avoid it The fire in the execution can represent two things, the simple one being the phrase "liar liar pants on fire" because she "was the ultimate liar" or well lied about that and the other one being how Eve ate the apple after being tempted to sin and was banished to hell, like how Eva took Tozu's offer and started the killing game and ending up in a deep pit of flames
Everyone commenting the trial and/or the killer and I'm always thinking how cute Ingrid is. Her voice actress did an amazing job, perfect voice for her ❤
I just KNEW the chat was gonna say the killers name and pretend they “figured it out” good thing I beat the chapter by now but be careful in the future guys
4:28:48 no this actually makes so much sense, no other character would also know that information. omg I know people commented earlier that wolfgang was killed because his talent was too OP and he was too smart to be kept alive, but I didn't expect it to be the same case for the killer as well... bro this is like drv3 but instead of kaede dying it's like kokichi and shuichi or something, bro thats crazyyy
It’s honestly so refreshing to see. How in the entirety of v3 NOONE thought to kill the detective???? And Shuichi was also frail and depressed he was such an easy target
@@ptr4410 V3 Spoilers: It's because none of the killers had motive to in-game 1: Kaede obviously wasn't going to 2: Kirumi wanted someone who gave up on life and an easier target, and Ryoma was better than Shuichi for that goal 3: Kiyo is a woman-serial killer, Shuichi's out of the question. 4: Miu clearly wanted Kokichi out in general. Yes, she should've thought of getting Shuichi as well, but she was probably banking on the fact that she had an alibi. 5: Kaito and Kokichi, and technically Maki, were obviously dealing with their own things, they didn't need to kill Shuichi No matter how you see it, Shuichi just wasn't in the minds of any of the killers
@@scream7709 Yea I understand the motives I’m just saying in a realistic scenario the detective would be much more interesting and grounded to be the first ones to go. And Shuichi is even my favorite protagonist in dangranronpa but seeing a realistic portrayal writing wise in the danganronpa formula is sooo refreshing with Eden’s Garden
@@ptr4410 oh I understand, yeah I've always been an advocate about straying away from the dangan pattern. True creativity is expanding past the original material
SPOILERS (for execution and culprit) that execution was actually so insane what the hell. i genuinely have no words like the math tools??? the collar forcefully pulling her despite her attempts to not let it happen???? the suspense?? cara?????? DAMON’S TEARS??? god that left me so speechless all i could do was stare at my ipad’s screen…😭😭😭😭😭 i honestly wanted to hear so much more from the culprit, i thought she was going to last so much longer in the game…man all i can say is good freaking game bro goodnight😭😭🙏 could not believe her desperation and never-ending dedication to escape from her execution. rest in peace ultimate liar, i’m sure she didn’t lie at all about saying she deserved to live 🥹
im actually glad characters that im guessing would die are completely wrong cuz i get to be surprised by the mystery, its so satisfying! also i really like the writing of characters, esp the killer :)) eden's garden's writing is so good cuz u dont wanna rely on the stereotypes and tropes typical danganronpa and even some other fanganronpas used. ANYONE you can imagine could be the killer.
@wrenascence spoilers it was honestly all the 3 redheads 😭 kai, diana and cassidy. my basis for this is back in the mock trial, kai and cassidy have many lines in the previous trials so i figured its their time to go next. (totally ignoring eva and wolfgang cuz im biased with dr tropes) diana is cuz of the chameleon theory circulating. so i was at first devastated when damon picked diana early on cuz i thought its over lol
I LOVE IT SO MUCH GUYS, when I realized what you had chosen for first victim and killer I was like "they did not", but you actually delivered and I was so unbelievably satisfied. The direction where you've taken the story is genuinely refreshing and I can't wait for the second chapter when this is already the best first chapter of any fangame I've seen. Please continue making bold writing choices like that 🙏 Also, I was happy that we got so much Kai lol
I recommended viewers to turn chat off, unfortunately spoiling definitely can happen and people could 'hide' the spoliers by pretending their theories if that makes sense
Yeah, the supposed Rivals like Togami, Nagito, & Kokichi. Expected them to live longer, but not the first victim. The next Rival may be the bunny ears girl, or the glasses girl.
I just finished the chapter and I gotta say, this was an absolute masterpiece from start to finish, an absolute roller coaster of the many emotions that Danganronpa also made me feel years ago, the voice acting, art, music, it was all so well made and put together that this game will be something i will absolutely be going to be thinking about for months. Cannot wait to see where the story and this project will go from here, because it completely blew away my expectations and the theories I had from chapter 0.
I LOVE the execution btw!! The animation and the absolute pain and panic on (not spoiling) their face especially when (SPOILER) __ started crying over their execution as well as the blackened uuuuuu. SPOILER: Eva my dearest… why did it ave to be you when I was finally seeing you as one of my favourites 😢😢 (though I’m proud of the creators for taking such a big leap with killing off the fan favourites to expand the story) also good job on subtle foreshadowing for future events with the dead student Cara reaching out a hand, I wonder what that would later tell 🧐
*SPOILERS AND MY PERSONAL THOUGHTS* THIS ACTUALLY CHANGES EVERYTHING. WOLFGANG AND EVA ARE THE STANDARD CHARACTERS THAT ARE KNOWN FOR STAYING ALIVE IN THE LATER CHAPTERS BUT THIS GAME SAYS OTHERWISE. And I was thinking back then that what if Wolfgang was the first victim to actually die since it would be smart for the killer to target someone who'll expose them too quickly given by the talent they acquired. I also just noticed, the way Eva made her way to get the special perk was also a reference for Eve in the bible getting tempted to take a bite from the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. I would like to think that the following executions will take reference from the bible since I saw one of the comments here pertaining about it. It's also nice for the other characters to actually see them participating unlike the dummy trial. Kudos to the people who made this game and the voice actors! Really made me emotional despite only being in chapt 1.
this whole scene from 3:20:00 was soooooooo fucking good man, the art, the voice acting, the sound design, the writing, it all just comes together so perfectly. this was my favorite part of the whole chapter and probably one of my favorite scenes from a fangan ever. very excited for the future of this project, even if you guys did kill off my favorite first 😔
absolutely!!!! i dont see enough people talking about this scene! i admittedly didn't like wolfgang all that much but it was really nice that we got one final moment to showcase his character--and what a showcase it was! i really gotta highlight his va because mannn their performance was spine-chilling. just all the desperation and /hunger/ oough. and diana's va did phenomenally in portraying her fear in the moment. which is to say the va work really complemented each other haha. the new sprites for the two of them were also sooo good, getting to see these characters breakdown and jjustttt hdgejehdhdh. really everyone involved did wonders in enhancing the emotions of the scene! it has to be my favourite part of this chapter, period, haha. so many props to the edens garden crew for giving us this absolute masterpiece ^^
Awesome chapter. Can’t wait until chapter 2 comes out in 4 years. Also SPOILER: Grace’s interjection before her rebuttal showdown caught me off guard. Just hearing “SHUT THE FUCK UP” out of nowhere coupled with angry Grace flipping us off had me rolling.
Fr I legit got spoiled and from what I've saw bcz someone posted a video of the ending of the trial From now on I'mma make sure to watch after the premier and it's best that if people don't wanna get spoiled they should watch after the premier Not only that I heard the last chat had said loads of inappropriate stuff about the characters
like i support selfshipping and i dont mind if you really love a character but keep your weird fantasies to yourself. you're commenting on a PUBLIC chat area, ANYONE can see it.
Same. It was genuinely heartwarming to see them become such close friends. I was honestly rooting to see more of them as a duo.. The slow unraveling of Eva's plan was really hard to watch. I don't think she was lying when about what she said to Damon in the storage room, I think she genuinely regretted how events forced her to set up a murder and betray his trust. Similarly, I doubt she personally hated Wolfgang or wanted him dead, but she definitely resented him for isolating her and making such an easy target in the first place (and yeah.. any fan in this community can tell you that the prevailing theory was that Eva was going to be the first victim).
Spoiler! I love this so much! I am a bit angry that Wolfgang died because him and Jett are my fav characters but if I must admit, his way of being murdered was put so perfectly. Eva being executed was unexpected and they way she was executed had me in shock, it was so brutal. Like thinking she had a chance of surviving and she also had to go through all the pain such as being lodged with screws and metal which made her bleed a ton, and finally thinking she would get help just to fall down to her demise which is a literal burning furnace is insane!
This case was bigger and way more complicated than a 1st case has ever been. Don't get me wrong, it was great and everything but it seemed a little heavy for a tutorial. It was a doozy of a case though. Y'all really cooked with this, it was almost too good. Keep it up!
@@skyden4637 Good point. I wish a regular Danganronpa game did something like that. So technically this'd be case 2. Who knows, we could be seeing a double next time we come back to this.
The prologue was extremely smart and actually fixed some problems the danganronpa games suffered from, such as easing us into the trial mechanic without sacrificing intricacies and dramatics of cases and letting us see how everyone, including the first victim, acts in a class trial. It also helped the group of characters to establish relationships as well as what they act like to the audience
@@P4R0D_Y agree! I dont think the project will be as good without the prologue trial, definilly it didnt just make it more enjoyable it help a lot with the development in chapter 1, i wish more dangaronpa games do that so we can see everybody in the trial
1:32:12 "The tree of ignorance emulates the wonder of nature but does not achieve it". I'm really liking this ongoing theme of things that emulate, mimic, give the illusion of being the real thing, but aren't actually the real thing. We see it with the books in Damon's room, the floor in the pharmacy, the tree of illusion, etc. I mean, this is literally a danganronpa fan game. It's emulating danganronpa, but it isn't actually danganronpa. Because it's just the illusion of a new danganronpa game, I wonder if this ongoing theme will come into play later on. I mean, eden's garden is one of the best fan games I've seen particularly when it comes to emulating the style of the danganronpa games. Because it seems like it's trying to be accurate to the spirit of danganronpa games, it's entirely possible that people's preconceptions and expectations surrounding a danganronpa series title will lead to logic that fits inside that box. Maybe that can be exploited later on for a plot twist or something, while still keeping with the theme of this game... just thinking
SPOILERS (BEWARE) i don't ever comment but this was absolutely phenomenal. Wolfgang being the first victim was surprising at first but slowly made sense after I realised how much focus his character had gotten in both the prologue and this chapter. ALSO ELOISE GOT MORE INVOLVED IN THE TRIAL, I'm so happy :D I love how Eva's character was written and her feeling of inferiority and insecurity makes me wanna hug her so bad 😭 2ND FIRST BEST GIRL DYING WAS NOT ON MY BINGO CHART (wenona stans unite). The murder plan was so well-executed and planned and Eva prolly wouldn't have been outed if it weren't for her exposing her blackmail to Damon. Gurl literally picked the best person to murder (aside from Damon himself) and a part of me thinks that she set up the mechanism which would result in the explosion of the generator as a way to show ppl that she's more than just a mathlete and that she's more than capable in other academic fields. I feel so bad for Diana though, she witnessed TWO people dying right before her eyes, give this girlie a break pls THE EXECUTION? was not prepared for the quality and how torturous it was, though from what P:EG has been cooking I dunno what I was expecting. The fact Eva still tried climbing up the conveyer after being LITERALLY IMPALED by math tools and pins, SHE GOT THAT DEDICATION. If I hadn't been spoiled abt her being the killer beforehand I prolly would've been more surprised abt her being the blackened. THANK YOU TO THE P:EG TEAM THIS IS TRULY THE BEST XMAS PRESENT. 🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯wenona+everyone else🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯 (oh yea candles for wenona, and everyone else cus I'm getting too attached)
@@duphin5045 it kind off was a good and bad telling him everything, like kwoning everything she knew would make easy to pin the murder on him if Diana framed fail, but it also end up making him the one to discover her
I will say none of you are ready for the SEVERAL plot twists Also the boss fight music(idk what the thing before the closing argument is called) is insanely good and I will be playing it on repeat when it comes out
(Spoiler alert) Such an amazing trial. I remember feeling like the biggest bad ass going into it, thinking that, of course the killer's gonna be one of the only people without an alibi... Then i realized how much evidence was left, and the mid trial break hit-
Just finished watching chapter 1... thinking "oh man too bad this is an indie project done by volunteers, guess I'll have to wait a year for the next part of the story, damn I really enjoyed it" JUST TO FIND OUT THERE'S MORE??!?! FIVE HOURS TOO--YOU DID THE WHOLE TRIAL??!! HOLY SHIT DUDE............ bro I've never seen anything like this T_T be careful everyone of the suggested videos, and the rest of the comment section, I've heard tales of spoilers everywhere
We have 14 students and 5 chapters left, Tozu said that the game would stop once there are only 2 survivors remaining. Assuming that it will not have any suicides and with one double-kill, then it will have 3 survivors.. My point being Eden's Garden may do a triple-kill or do a sacrifice like in V3. Tozu haven't mention about double plus killings yet so we'll see
Actually....the cast would probably defeat Tozu and destroy the game in the end.....So there much likely to have more than 2....I think there will be at least 4 survivors
V3 I believe specifically also stated the Killing Game would last until two people remain-it simply seems like a blanket rule since essentially trials can’t be held with two people, rather than hinting that there WILL be two survivors. If they want, they could have one person live on as well
@@isaiahbaylor8337 yeah that's the case, they said they wouldn't follow the tropes regarding each DR trial, and they quoted as exemple the 3rd trial always having 2 victims. HOWEVER they didn't said there would never be 2 victims, just that the third chapter wouldn't follow that trope which is different...
This is the First time an execution (other then maybe leon/gonta) made me feel sick, like i actually wanted to vomit a bit…. It’s so fucking good, you out did yourself every step of the way, i hope this gets finished i don’t care if chapter 2 takes 3 years again it will 10000% be worth the wait
It was 2 years. It might not take so long, as I understand a lot of that time went on readying the basic big trial systems and honing the models, that work is now mostly completed and it may not take that long for the next to be completed. Depends on how far the writing is and how their personal lives go during the next years.
Just finished it. Honestly lost for words. Everything about this experience was amazing, phenomenal and an absolute masterclass from all those involved. The mystery, to the trial to the execution and everything in between was just brilliantly done. I am absolutely looking forwards to see where you all take this story in future. 10/10, 5 Stars. YEAHHHH!!!!
(SPOILERS FOR THE CULPRIT. Please don’t read until you finish the video!) So I was thinking, it makes perfect sense why Eva had to go. Biblical references aside, what kept Damon also isolated from the group (besides his outburst in the prologue) is a general distrust and skepticism for everyone. He felt like Eva supported that view, so stuck around her (and trusted her. Poor Damon this is going to cause trust issues. Daily Life is going to be fun to rewatch). If the devs and writers want Damon to branch out and form relationships with the rest of the group, Eva would have prevented him from moving forward from his current mindset in a way. Like, the poster discussion in the pharmacy. They kept secrets and fell back to kind of making a support feedback loop with each other (distrust of the group. which definitely from their point of view makes perfect sense). I mean, it’s still Chapter 1 so Damon’s character development can go so many different ways- Who knows? Damon might get pushed to interact with the group more or withdraw/be more antagonistic after the person he trusted most is gone. But yeah I think Eva, if she were to be like the Kirigiri for Makoto, would have…kept him the same if that makes any sense? It’s kind of why the first game also kind of fell flat for me, but glad it got switched up here! Rest in peace Eva, and 100% sure this is still going to be part of Damon’s internal conflict next chapter. The dynamics are so interesting and I’m super excited to see how the group dynamics are shaken up (Diaannnaaa! Kaaaiiii! I have a feeling the two will be important for Damon).
I finished the game earlier but I have to give my congrats to the P:EG team. Cool story and an elaborate trial? Sign me up !!! Highkey the best chapter 1 in all fangans and maybe better than V3 but that’s for another day. ofc, those who know what happened will know this shifted the direction we were all expecting this game to take but im trusting the team to cook with carrying this initial momentum till the end
@Limji145 When you say “finished” does that also include seeing both versions with and without Pathos? Unlike the mock trial, there are more opportunities to use Pathos, and while it doesn’t necessarily always change the overall outcome, it’s always intriguing to see all potential outcomes.
i got the pathos route first try actually spoilers for that route : it was mostly different with damon trusting diana because of how much she’s done for him, plus him calling out to tozu asking him when he would say a trial is over iirc
It was the Book of Genesis basis all along! Wolfgang Akire and Eva Tsunaka Adam and Eve Eve/Eva was the one who picked the apple from Lucifer’s snake form/Damon, which she has passed it on to Adam/Wolfgang. Then again, the apple of all knowledge/traitor perk was made by God/Tozu anyway. Then the God/Tozu punished them for “breaking the rules” (Sort of in Eva’s case) - which is the punishment of making them mortals to die. I also liked how the boss battle has Tohou and Snake elements there. Those were classics.
The quality is so high that it's beyond imagination. Whether it's the plot, the voice acting, the character designs and illustrations, and so on, thank you for all your efforts! Looking forward to what comes next. Additionally, I adore Diana.😍
BIG FAT SPOILER PLEASE DON'T LOOK god damnm it i knew it, KNEW IT FROM THE START IS THAT WHY WE WERE SPENDING SO MUCH FREE TIME EVENTS ON HER GOD DAMN IT (I watch instead of playing)
The scary thing is that I called it - Wolfgang was giving me too many Angie vibes, disappointing about the killer though (I thought she was the Kyoko/Chiaki of this game)
I noticed, where's the part where all of the students vote for the blackened? I think y'all forgot about the voting scene where the students especially you vote Eva on their own screens and Eva will be found guilty or not in some spinning wheel like in the original game. Am I the only one who noticed this? But still though, worth the 2 year wait! 👏👏👏
I don't think they would forget something big like that, i think it's intentional... maybe they don't need to vote on a screen, just that the majority of people agree on who the culprit is and the trial is nearing its end...?? Idk, though, since it's only the first chapter.
@@JustaRandomDudeIdkThat's actually been said in the sixth rule. I think this will imply to all chapters if this is the case. But who am I kidding, majority still wins and it's probably automatic where proper voting is unnecessary. I'm really not complaining lol 🤷
Everything about this chapter has been a higher quality than any Danganronpa fangame ever made. From the voice acting to the executions, this blows the original games themselves out of the water. Well done to the entire team who worked on this!
Im from the future, the ending is so FIRE 🔥 I genuinely got surprised seeing "whodunnit", this team made a masterpiece of a story (i still can't believe they were the murderer)
*Risk at spoilers* They really kept to the recurring theme of the killer using misdirection to frame one of the “leading” students, yet this is the first time we seen an murder by electrocution. A lot more of the students who were “indifferent” during the mock trial pulled their weight, and offered more to the debate, which helped further define and clarify their character. That verdict threw me, though it lacked the tension and resolution of a “Voting Time” Result. Also, while “perks” aren’t necessarily an original, to include such a detailed and effective perk… not to mention how it could even circumvented certain rules the execution… at the end, the “victim” from the mock trial was included, for those who might have been confused That desperation, climbing on bloodied hands, only to fall into the fire when they reached so close to escape… considering a certain phrase, it is somewhat fitting, especially if you get a proper look at the “title” of the execution.
Spoiler Territory (kinda?) As i said, the killer was fire🔥, gotta admit the whole execution was brutal, the way they grabbed the podium trying not to get into the execution??? the way they kept crawling even with all the things literally tearing them apart? And the joke at them that "not even the dead people will help you" is so unnerving and interesting considering who the killer is. Also, the post execution with them (not spoiling who) giving a (not so motivating) pep talk made me love their character more than i do
*SCREAMS CUTELY!!!* ...Even though I watched the class trial through a streamer, I will not spoil it! If yall want to spoil, at least do it with a SPOILER TAG on the top!
Spoiler I don't know how to explain it but diana using a hair clip for the lock, taking off her heels to escape, and using makeup on her wound is kinda iconic....👑
Yup! Finally I saw someone talk about her impressive character showcased in this chapter! I know this won't really make sense, but I wish Diana would be our supporting character. It's just too repetitive for me if they'll decide to make her the antagonist like Wolfgang.
I'm so ready for the chapter 1 trial for Eden's Garden.🍎 Wenona looking epic in the thumbnail. Theory: Grace killed Wolfgang by accident when the taser electrocuted him while he was wet. One reason I think that, Grace has the rabbit ears hat, and Wolfgang being referred to as a wolf in sheeps clothing. If not, maybe Eva, because she said she's a jack of all trades after all.
I thought Dianna was gonna die but that speech at the end has me thinking she might be a survivor, or end up being more important than we all thought like Chapter 5 importance or something
i'm honestly speechless i figured out a few things, but not everything. hats off to the writing crew, artists, the voice actors, everyone voices were a bit quiet though despite having everything at max volume on my end, not sure if that's a game thing or whoever was playin had the volume turned down. what an incredible way to start, even though there are still a handful of questions left
Major Spoilers below(I have a LOT to say) First of all, English isn't my first language, so I apologize in advance for any mistakes. So...what else can I even say? This may be recency bias, but it's easily THE best 1st Chapter in Danganronpa history, be it official games or fangames...at least of the ones I had the pleasure to see. Which admittedly aren't that many, but whatever. Between a very convoluted yet creative murder set up that is still explained rather well, stellar visuals and ost, and excellent subversion of expectations of characters like Wolfgang, Damon, and ESPECIALLY Eva. Seriously, they could have gone the easy way out by giving Eva a very understandably tragic motivations -- which, in a way, she still has -- but slowly going over the trial minute after minute and realizing that the 'Kirigiri' of this game, so to speak(introverted genius ally with good intentions beneath it all) is a geniunely bad and selfish person who more than lives up to the status of the "Ultimate Liar"...like, that slow realization was such a horrifying experience for me personally. So much more horrifying than if she was JUST the culprit. It is also equally horrifying to revisit the Daily Life segment with all this context in mind. It also reminded me of a certain character I was writing in a fangame of an unrelated series(that I will probably never end up making since I suck at making sprites), so seeing that this sort of idea CAN actually work made me incredibly happy. On that topic, however, I do have ONE major critique. Only one, but I wish to vocalize it. The revelation that Tozu basically forced her to kill -- due to the whole Traitor Perk situation...yeah, I actually thinks that takes away from her character. I understand that it helps make Eva's situation and mentality seem even more tragic and sympathetic, I really do. But seeing her continuously spout excuses after excuses about her motivations even after being voted at the end seemed already tragic enough to me -- showcasing the kind of person she ended up becoming due to how the world treated her. It's just a different kind of tragic rather than 'kill or die'. But that's just my personal opinion, and I understand the decision. Other than this nitpick...well, hats off is all I have to say. I'll be more than glad to wait for even more amazing Chapters
I kinda like the whole "having a deadline to kill" thing. Eva It's based on Eve. She bit the apple aka took the traitor perk. It's interesting that the team took something from the original game (trigger Happy havoc) that many people forget about. We all remember traders being in dangonronpa but we don't remember Sakura as a traitor. Like Eva, Sakura was given a trader perk and similar parameters. But the difference lies in the fact that Sakura stood honorable against the traitor perk (technically she was giving a pass because a murder was committed before her killing limit expired) while Eva used it as motivation and justification to commit murder. I'm not really religious but The fact she took the perk (something she could have turned down Knowing the rules and all but didn't as tozu mentioned) and it kicked off the killing game as a result is similar to Eva kicking of sin in humans. I think this shows a pivotal character a flaw that isn't just live or die. Victimization. Thing shes valid in feeling like a victim for includes: that she is a victim of is being kidnapped But her victim mentality and believing she deserved more is what caused her to be self-isolating, what caused her to take the perk and what caused her to die. A contrasts with a noble character like Sakura who took the perk without knowing everything in the picture. She didn't get the luxury of having a mock trial like this cast did. I'm not even sure she even met the cast she is a part of until after she took the perk. Her lover was clearly in trouble and that was her motivation which in itself is selfless. Even still, Sakura took her own life as a compromise for saving both the people around her and her lover, she didn't want people to feel scared that she was a traitor so to ease everybody she sacrificed herself. Eva on the other stood up and said F them kids and F you two.. not only was her motive for getting out simply based on her own survival and not considering anyone else but herself. But she's literally in the same situation as Sakura was. So in my opinion, The fact that she put her OWN life in danger by taking the trailer perk rather than attempting to trust diana, shows was critical flaws in her character. ✨Victimization ✨ Which led to you her own involuntary Cremation😘✨😘✨✨👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🟰🟰➕🟰➖
Me before the deadly life and trial: happy ig and full of life ^^ (Editing after with spoiler warnings!!!) … Woah that was alot to process, the blackened was genuinely someone I did not expect!? Hello but the arguments and the final case look over had me so overwhelmed (in a positive way) I genuinely liked this chapter alot !! Even if I expected the victim/blackened to be people that would go farther but I guess are the first to fall… and also something about Damon has me suspicious not sure why
*SPOILERS KINDA?** The execution was brutal... I had my hand covering my mouth just the sheer amount of pain that must have felt and the animation being so good, ooff..
It's too early to call the victim/killer "wasted potential" when all we have is Chapter 1. Rantaro didn't get development until Chapter 6. That being said, it's kinda hard to be excited about Chapter 2 when the two most interesting characters are already dead :/
While this is fairly valid criticism, this should leave you excited, Eva and Wolfgang both had such major presences in the cast that now with their absence we'll get to see how the others flourish on their own, like how Wenona and Eloise shined this chapter
Spoilers! 3:20:21 I have a theory that Cara and a woman from photo of Wolfgang's blackmail are the same person. She and Wolfgang had close realtionship with each other, but something bad happened between them which explains Wolfgang's behavior during the mock trial and also Wolfgang probably hallucinating her in place of Diana and being willing to stab her.
SPOILER ... This first chapter was truly something amazing, I really feel that the unexpected deaths of Wolfgang and Eva were a necessary part of this killing games story, and I loved everything about it, especially when you realize this correlates to the various things the characters and the location of the killing game symbolizes
The creators have created a masterpiece! This danganronpa rocks! From the interactions, to voice acting and puzzles, everything works and is worthy of praise! We should remember that Desmond has access to various dangerous gadgets as a hunter! Diana was very close to dying! The execution was both brutal and unsettling. It was a reference to the Bible as well. As for the future chapters? I am rooting for Cassidy and Wenona and Ingrid the most and as for boys? I am rooting for stuntman/daredevil Jett, archer Desmond and Jean, the captain. I do not trust the music producer + Kai + the stylist Diana and Ulysses. Toshiko has potential and so does the master of golf.
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26:38 question did you mean to say “apart” instead of “part”?
You’re cooking with this game!!!!!!!
Can you fix the Rebuttal Showdown? My slashes aren’t working at all, meaning I’m unable to progress the game
The execution was actually genuinely so unsettling ong they really outdid themselves, makes me scared of what they'll do for future chapters ToT
A LMK FAN IN THE WILD?? THIS IS A MIRACLE!!
Yea
I swear I went “what was that chapter” at the end of it, I didn’t expect ANYTHING, I had so many theories but everything that did actually happen was so obvious as it was messed up
Alguien dijo que las ejecuciones aquí se sentían más inquietantes y fuertes porque no tienen miedo de que el personaje no se vea bien
En danganrrompa incluso pasando por la ejecución los personajes se ven "estéticos", pero cuando Eva moría estaba llorando y desesperada por salvar su vida, con expresiones que acompañaban lo que sentía
Estoy bastante de acuerdo con esa persona, la ejecución fue simplemente demasiado, ella no merecía eso
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This was quite literally the greatest thing I’ve ever seen. Every time I thought I had thought I had an idea of what was going on it completely changed. Very, VERY engaging I was on the edge of my seat the entire time. Phenomenal work! ❤️
Wow your team is so talented
LOVE LOVE LOVE ALL THE WORKS AND EFFORTS THAT YOU GUYS DID!!
We did. You have created a masterpiece. I hope Cassidy Amber will make it far.
This is definitely worth the decade we’re gonna wait for the full game
So something I noticed is the cast is more alive then the Dangan games. Like we have people who are actually down to earth and care about everyone else like Desmond and Jean and etc. so if they become a blackened it would have to be something HUGE to make them betray the group like that as they all seem like down to earth and have morals and none of them genuinely wants to kill anyone. So instead of in games we can tell who may be a victim or who is a killer this will be a surprise each time truly as we don’t know what that big thing is that will make any of them break, or idk if I’m explaining it right. I also love how Damon isn’t just carrying the trials like the protags do. Everyone else seems to be on equal ground with Damon or at least everyone pitches in and brings up good points and evidence and advances the trial further rather then waiting on a Makoto or Hajime or Shuichi to do everything for them and come up with the Ah Ha! moments. Like even Kai and Cassidy and even JETT were keeping up with the class trials and using logic and deduction and seeing where everyone was coming from and put in their own info themselves and etc etc like really heavy. It’s also further showcased and I like how they made EVERYONE do the crime scene retelling and did it in their own way and interacting with each other during it like they are actually there and understanding and taking part in the killing game as a team effort. No more the protagonist is this genius or something. Does anyone else kinda see what I mean like? Idk if I explained it right lol.
No, you explained it pretty well, Eden's Garden does a damn good job at not making anyone feel usuless in the trail! And even with everyone being on the same general footing, Damon still shines in a way you expect from a protagonist, while also giving everyone a chance to actually do something and contribute to the trial.
exactly. Even outside of the trials every character feels alive. And they don’t just let their personality or talent just do it all. They are actually knowledgeable and helpful and pretty down to earth and based even in Daily Life or without the trials. Everyone was even helpful during the investigation. It’s like Kai for example. Going into Chapter 1 u coulda never expected or could tell he was gonna be so good in the trial like he was or follow along or do things and engage and keep up and come up with conclusions. Or Cassidy or Jett. It’s like a switch flipped on whenever deadly life started and everyone was like “ok we ACTUALLY gotta lock in”. It’s like everyone is as smart as the protagonist and all are on equal footing. Even everything down to their emotions and etc are like a MCs.
I might sound kinda dumb but I prefer the protag doing the retelling. It gives a real sense of conclusion. Just personal taste, though.
@@Seth_blessingSozosame, makes the "protagonist" really the protagonist of the story.
I wouldn't say Naegi and Hinata were carrying the class trials (though I will agree in Saihara's case, even if Ouma also held the brain cells at times), since they had Kirigiri and Komaeda respectively to string them along to solve the cases. However, your point still stands that Eden's Garden does a great job at having EVERYONE contribute in the class trials, not just the Protag-Antag-Support trio.
Interesting that the name of the execution refers to a passage in the Bible, specifically the Book of Isaiah 48:10 "Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction." This ties to the game's biblical theming, which means that the other executions might also be named after passages from the Bible.
I'm not Christian but man I sure love seeing references to the Bible in games
Honestly any religious references are always cool if done right
OH MY GOD 😭😭
I also love how Eva sounds similar to Eve, the first to fall into Satan's temptations (like how Eva was the first to fall into the killing game's temptations)
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And more specifically, the traitor quirk was technically the "apple". Also I think it was rigged so that Eva would be the first blackened.
That would be top nocht tbh ❤😂
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I honestly really love the fanbase and the characters' parallels on Wolfgang and Eva. Wolfgang was someone the whole cast liked and followed as their leader, while Eva was the outcast that no one trusted. While in the fanbase Wolfgang seemed suspicious and evil and Eva seemed sweet and misjudged. However the true nature of these two characters was completely different. Wolfgang died, pitied and respected by the other students, his behaviour turned out to be genuine (at least it's hinted that he was really trying to be good) while Eva died as someone tragic, hated by everyone else and as someone who hated everyone, not what you'd expect from your typical antag and support, red herring or not
This comment summarizes the chapter perfectly
eva was not hated by everyone else though, its somewhat understandable what she did after tozu basically threatened her
Ik I just watched it but what was that thing Tozu said earlier? That sometimes the simpler answer is the real one
@@questionmarkquestionmarkques by everyone else I only meant the students not the fanbase. Although many people are hating on Eva for what she did to Diana
The thing is, Eva only became the culprit BECAUSE Wolfgang isolated her and made her and Damon easy targets. It caused them to both to with hold information (Damon was the one who told Eva not to tell the others about the poster in the Pharmacy because no else trusted them) and meet with Tozu privately (conspiring to get information behind Wolfgang's back), and eventually led to the killing game starting. He was a genuine and good man, but as Damon, Eva, and Tozu said, he was _dangerously_ naive and misguided. He was not fit to a be a leader in this scenario, and that's why he ultimately died. If he had just kept his mouth shut before they investigated the Pharmacy, Eva almost certainly wouldn't have been so paranoid. Not that he's entirely at fault, but his need to enforce moral superiority over those he disagreed with was still toxic.
And.. I really don't think Eva would've killed anyone if not for Tozu forcing her hand. She wanted the traitor perk because she thought having it would help increase her chances of survival in a group that kept targeting her. She clearly didn't think it would force her to kill someone _immediately_ after she found it. Her opening up to Damon in private and apologizing for putting him in this mess after he came to her aide in Ch0, was clearly just her way of getting closure and coping with her guilt. He was the first of her peers to ever trust her as a person, and now, she had to abuse that trust in order to live. _Of course_ she was going to be angry and bitter during the trial. What else can she draw from this scenario other than: "None of this would've happened if the others hadn't isolated and targeted me (like everyone else has in her life), and now I have no choice but to betray the few who might actually care about me."
People calling this is wasted of "you know" potential may forgot that...This is chapter 1. It's too soon to judge characters potential. In fact, all characters hold equal potential.
Put some spoiler alert pls !!!
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The factor is that there was a 2 year wait between prologue and Chapter 1. Beautiful case but there's no problem in saying they felt wasted, I do love both victim and killer 😭 but I can't wait for what Chapter 2 will bring to the table
This! Literally, any first victim/killer is 'wasted' potential... Some are crying only cuz it happened to be their fav characters lol
@@KKLAUSIme😢 eva I was rooting for you😭
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When Eva died, I kept thinking about the genius who thought of her execution, and don't forget about those who animated it. The animation was so devastating because she shed tears, and even without audio you could tell she was screaming in pain. But despite all that, her will to live outshone those and told her to just live.
Her execution using a fire and a conveyor belt made me think about how no matter how much you walk in the opposite direction of a conveyor belt, it will take more effort than if you just walked the other way. Eva could've gave up on all her other interests, and became just a mathlete like people expected, but she didn't. She tried her best to show people that she was so much more than just a mathlete with her papers, but no one would listen. They'd tell her she was great at math(throwing MATH TOOLS AT HER DURING THE EXECUTION) and it pushed her down into the fire. But she still wanted to show the world who she was. And when she reached out to her peers, (Cara Koskinen in the execution) she was only let down further.
TLDR: The execution was so well done everytime I see it I actually break down in tears Eva was so cool
I did a whole analysis of it
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She climbed her ladder, as she was pressured into becoming a mathelete. The fire was symbolic of nothing being left if she didn't succeed. She quite literally climbed to the top as well as putting literal blood, from the math tools, sweat from the heat of the fire and the energy needed to survive, and tears from the pain into her efforts. I don't know if the dummy at the end is supposed to be someone we don't know, or close to Diana on appearance but either was this is what I got. It was symbolic of her whole life start to end.
@@LocalDragonman I was thinking the same thing about the fire 😭 I just had no idea how to word it. "If she gave up, she'd be forgotten. If she died in the fire, nothing would remain." Something like that, but I didn't know if I should've included it.
the way nobody gaf abt dianas speech cracked me UPPEGAHRJRNSJ
especially after the artwork of her crying raising her hand. It was perfect 😆
YEAH THAT KILLED ME 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I mean…. Damon did give a fuck. It was the thing on his mind after All Or That.
Just not in the positive way…
Frr... i felt bad for her tho 😭😭😭
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If im gonna be honest, I don't really want a nagito/kokichi antagonist. While yes, they're interesting characters, I want an antagonist like Byakuya, someone who's not full on "evil/crazy", rather someone whose morally grey, or is the complete opposite of the protagonist.
If theres one thing Danganronpa does in its games, its create a message with antonyms, like "Despair/Hope" "Truth/Lies" etc etc. Im not 100% sure where PED is going in this direction. I think the message for this game is Hope/delusion?? Not really sure, but I have a prediction about how this games gonna go.
In every Danganronpa game, theres always atleast one character who will be different from the rest of the cast, someone who doesnt agree with everyone else's beliefs, Ex, Byakuya, Nagito, Kokichi. In this game, we're the antagonist, (to everyone else atleast.) Damon, like everyone else, wants to escape, but doesn't like to believe in all that false hope stuff. In the prologue, he talks about how useless everyone's talent is, causing a majority of the cast to dislike him. One of those people who still had hope for him being Diana.
I feel like Diana's gonna be the antagonist for this game and Im all for it. After the class trial ended, she made this speech on how she's gonna "continue Wolfgang's legacy" and try to find justice. During the prologue, Im pretty sure Wolfgang was the antagonist? (Im not 100% sure, to me it was kind of confusing on who was who.) Now that he's dead, we have someone picking up his legacy. Unlike the other antagonists, Diana isn't morally evil or even grey, so far, she seems like someone who wants to step up and save everyone. I feel like Diana doesn't fully think Damon is a terrible person, we've seen her try to be friendly with Damon and I doubt she's gonna stop acting friendly towards him.
In my opinion, this game is a breath of fresh air from the stereotypical Danganronpa game, it feels more realistic than the others (Hope that makes sense.) I wish for the best with this game and am 100% for chapter two!
What the freak, I wasn't expecting to write this much 😭 I can write this in ten minutes but spend two weeks on a formative English assignment.
I love stories that don't shy away from the morally grey and P:EG really is a breath of fresh air! I think presuming that there's only going to be a single antagonist is a mistake, though.
P:EG has mentioned how it's not going to follow a set DR formula so I wouldn't be surprised if there's shifts in roles as the game progresses. I agree that Diana is set to be the next antagonist via misguided positivity, but she may grow beyond that or even die next chapter as the story explores more themes and characters.
I'm really excited to see however things unfold!
@@dandeliondaffodyls1426 your so right, I was thinking about this a few hours ago. I love the idea of having more than one antagonist. It just makes a lot of sense since majority of the cast doesn't really see Damon as a good person. I really hope Diana lives through trial two though 😭 I wanna see how she's gonna step up and try to lead everyone
(shes also my second favorite character after Wolfgang, I cant lose my top two in a back to back chapter)
I agree but neither Nagito nor Kokichi is completely crazy evil, crazy yes, but like you said their views just align differently.
@@PrincessAlliOfFreaks I think Diana is gonna be the type of antagonist that challenges Damon’s beliefs throughout the story, while a character like Wenona is going to be closer to that byakuya role.
"Um actually🤓👆" I CAN'T😭🙏
SAME I DIED 😭
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At first I was like fuck yeah then I like actually payed attention to what he said lol I love him
This is probably the only Danganronpa-like chapter that is 100 percent totally deserved to wait for 2+ years.
Thank you Team, I really loved it!
Exactly, it's so well done, the only thing that could be improved is probably the non stop debates with a much more smoother animation after shooting the truth bullet.
If they updated that in the future, this is literally like a real official Danganronpa game!
@@ScarlettUsagiyeah, story, art and music are beautiful, but VFX effects still need a lot of work
@@batalayar glad there's people who agreed with me, I don't wanna criticize much because for a fan game this is already above impressive.
Like you said the vfx could still use a bit of improvement, and probably slightly better design on some of the class trial graphics.
The timing with some specific animations as well, like the speed of it? If it was faster (the rebuttal showdown)
Just as Danganronpa did, it really hits with the overwhelming feeling when a character you liked very much ends up dying, especiallly from another character you liked, amazing work from the team
Yes, but unlike Danganronpa, where it's very difficult to get into the fandom without knowing who dies and who doesn't, this game leaves you stunned since it's relatively new, making it easier to avoid spoilers.
Exactly @@AkiraChileno
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For all the previous daganronpa games I got spoiled on all the victims and blackened characters before playing so i made sure not to get attached to any of them. However for Eden, obviously, I got no spoilers going in so I wasn't as cautious and ended up getting attached. I loved Akire so much, he's literally the main reason I got into this fangan since his character archetype appealed to me so much and he genuinely seemed like a character who would last for long (and many others felt the same) so seeing him die first made me feel a genuine pain I've not felt in a long time from any form of media. Forgot how much it hurts to see a character you like die, especially early.
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My 3 are Jean, Cassidy and Wenona
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I thought eva was gonna be a fmc that will stick with mc like kyoko(cuz of the character design) , but nah, what a plot twist
I am slowly starting to believe that the "dummy victim" in the prologue was actually Wolfgang's sister (same hair as his mother) and that he might have projected her on Diana when he was hallucinating, something like that.
I also remember that weird interaction between Diana and Damon from the day before (check the previous daily life video at 4:20:06), that one hasn't been adressed in the trial at all so I assume it's being kept for later, which once again mean there might be more to Diana than what was shown here...
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Also the big irony in the dummy being used for assisting in the execution of Wolfgang's killer, revenge even in death
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What was the weird interaction between Damon and diana? I don’t remember
Also your theory could explain Wolfgang’s actions during the prologue, as he was the only person emotional about it despite everyone else not really caring since it was a dummy (I could be wrong it has been a while since the prologue)
@@burhaan9017 Go in the daily life video at 4:20:06, Diana approach Damon right before entering his dorm and seems to be trying to get infos out of him, while the exchange seems normal it's clear that the way she came to Damon is weird and Damon suspect himself she might have tried to get something out of Damon that would have served her interest (?).
It's possible that, naratively, this first trial trial framed Diana as some kind of pure innocent but who knows, she is the chameleon of the group after all.
Also she is a pink hair girl in a killing game hosted by guy with the same voice as monocrow lol (for those who knows the ref)...
I had the exact same thought about Wolfgang & Cara although I think it might be likelier that they're a bit more distant than siblings (since they have different last names). maybe cousins or smth?
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I can’t believe nobody’s talking about Damon
Damon is one of the smartest expectation-subverting characters I’ve ever seen. Despite being the protagonist, he acts much more like an antagonist. His actions are powered by what he has to gain. For example, Damon letting the others investigate the pharmacy so 1, he wouldn’t get ganged up on again, and 2, to uncover the secret Tozu talked about for himself as well as not giving away the fact that he had Wolfgang’s blackmail just to make sure he didn’t get accused.
Despite that, he isn’t one-dimensional. He does at the very least respect the other ultimates, and maybe even care about them. He’s said time and time again that he respected Wolfgang, and it was his empathy peeking out that prevented him from doubling down on Diana being the culprit. He even ended up genuinely trusting Eva before coming across the revelation that she was the culprit of Wolfgang’s murder.
Despite the trial, he’s still the same character. He’s still arrogant and cynical. Wolfgang and Diana’s naivety still piss him off beyond end. He’s just so smartly written and a very realistic character. Danganronpa will always hold a very special place in my heart, but I think I already like P:EG more.
When you think about it it’s really heartbreaking. Sure he was being a bit self centered but he meant well when he said they shouldn’t trust each other so easily, yet it’s obvious he was willing to understand Eva, heck maybe even trust her a bit because she was smart with her “not trusting anyone” mindset, and yet she is the first person as the blackened
I honestly couldn’t ask for a better person to be blackened though, there were days going on in the chapter and nobody died, they had the stuff to live and support, and almost everyone wanted to band together, and even if the traitor thing came into play, only two people didn’t want to trust and work together, our protagonist who despite his selfishness isn’t really a bad person, and the outcast who already was antagonized and constantly jabbed at by the groups “leader”, and also seemed selfish as it was, it was not only realistic but a damn good plot twist
I also found it really interesting that apparently Eva and Wolfgang weren’t actually going to be the antag and support to our protagonist, if the game does end up doing that then I’m wondering if Kai will take the role of support, and since Diana is becoming the new Wolfgang she will be the antagonist or something
Wolfgang was not only the leader but also someone who was smart and kind towards the others so with him gone, who’s to say that these “morals” of the people will remain
Damon is also an archaic spelling of the word "Demon".
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Eva is a perfect example of what Sayaka would have become had her plan worked.
I really love the writing in this chapter and how it used elements from all three mainline DR games to make a first case. Damon being betrayed by someone he trusted, like what Sayaka tried to do to Makoto, a blackout during a get-together like DR2, and losing two of our most influential characters due to getting rid of our antagonist and support, which is kind of similar to V3's Kaede as they set her up as the all important protagonist only to subvert that by killing her, and now they've done the same with Wolfgang AND Eva, by setting them up as our support and rival and getting rid of them.
The Eden's Garden Team did such a good job, and I'd argue that I enjoyed this a lot more than the three mainline games we have. I really enjoyed going into the chapter blind without being spoiled, and I'm only expecting it to get better from here.
Spoliers
Right and also Rantaro was made to be like this important character and was killed off much like Wolfgang
If someone told me Eden's garden was an official Danganronpa game I'd believe them
This game is so good
I was thinking the same about Eva and Sayaka, actually. It was an interesting concept.
Also the vent for V3 i guess
I think the "they use elements from all three mainline games" thing also actually ties in nicely to the whole "history repeats itself" theme the game is going for (on a meta level obviously I'm aware it's a separate universe)
個人的にだけど、今まで見た二次創作で1番クオリティ高い
スゴすぎるよこれ…
SPOILER AND THOUGHTS ON EVA'S CHARACTER.
I think people are missing the point a bit. Eva isn' just a traumatized good person, she is a bad person as a result of her trauma and emotional baggage. (She has tridimensional feelings, I know, but that is exatcly why I am saying this).
It is her feelings of isolation and paranoia which made her a resentful, sadist person, full of misantrophy (You heard her and saw how she manipulated Daimon and all she did to Wolfgang and Diana. You can't deny that she is malicious at best). She had been treated unfairly all her life, and as result, she became someone obsessed with what she deserved, who had at the same time both a superiority and inferiority complex.
She also had a victim complex.
When people bring up how she killed the man who could've kept them together she says she would've died first and someone else would've, there's no real evidence right now that would be the case.
When Diana says that she wanted to be her friend she only acknowledges how Diana wasn't 100% against Wolfgang and apparently that meant she deserved to be roped into her murder plot (which she could've very well have been killed in the process) and be framed.
When Desmond says she was only trapped into having to murder because she went back on everyone first she automatically puts herself in a victim role of being killed, not even framed *being killed*
Her life outside was miserable and the people who bullied her for being a math elite have much to be ashamed of but she became worse than them when she killed someone and attempted by proxy everyone else.
Tldr on ramble: don't let any self contempt or outside negativity spiral into this because you'll suffer the most in the end.
I wonder if the people who bullied her even know half of the damage they've caused...
She's not remotely a sadist, and never displays sadistic once in the chapter. Being bitter and resentful of the people who walked all over her and shunned her over the course of her life didn't mean she wanted to kill someone. She was pushed to it by extreme circumstances.
@@DLxxx Killing Wolfgang the way she did and infront of Diana is extremely cruel. Specially after choosing her, someone who tried to comfort her and help, just because she respected Wolfgang.
Her desire of revenge against Wolfgang (who although being a bit extreme, was genuinely trying to do the best for the group) and Diana translated in a desire to hurt *them* specifically.
@@fruitloops2058 I agree. She probably felt constantly under attack, which justified in her mind her petty way of acting.
4:46:14 omg I love how the killer is actually properly defending themselves and even has a plan for what happens if they get revealed in the trial.. to frame someone ELSE and stay calm etc.. this trial is very well done!
Yup love how manipulative and cunning the culprit is
SUPER SERIOUS SPOILER:
The killer is Phoenix Wright from Ace Attorney. He was jealous of Wolfgang and snuck into the Killing game just to kill him.
Now Toshiko and Maya are traumatized-
Damn. Didn’t think he’d jump games to do that ._.
Omg I can’t believe it :(( my fav char frfr
ughh curse you phoenix wright from ace attorney!
Noooo he was my fav :((
So...
Seem like Wolfgang and Eva were the fakeout rival/support. And it seem like Diana is going to be the one that challenge Damon's ideology and Kai is going to be Damon's actual support. This will be interesting.
if kai is going to be the protagonist’s support/side kick,
i’m not ready for chapter 5 😭
kyoko kirigiri (only if you get the bad ending) chiaki nanami, & kaito momota 💔
coincidentally, they all have a K & I in their names. including kai. (i’m probably just reaching)
I love this idea.
that would be reaally interesting
Why do i feel like damon is gonna pull a teruko from despair time lol. I mean it would make sense if he gives off an antag vibe in the next chapters after this, this would be a good opportunity for a villain arc /hj. But i feel like it would be interesting, considering were playing as him
Ngl I didn’t think about Kai being support, I feel kinda dumb for that, but at least Diana’s probs ganna be the antagonist now
Directly after the trial ends, Damon Maitsu's name doesn't disappear until they start talking about how the generator exploding doesn't violate any rules. May want to fix that later guys.
Edit: it's from 5:17:40 to 5:19:37 if the y'all want to know where specifically.
this happened for me too in both the prologue and this trial but you can fix it by saving and reloading
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One thing that I'm TOTALLY beating myself up over is figuring out the culprit. Of course, I figured it out once we cleared Diana's name pretty quickly, but I feel like I should've known since, well, before the prolog even came out. Damon and Eva, in both their names and their promotional art, seem to have often been related to Adam and Eve --- so of COURSE Eva would be the first blackened!?!?!?! Eve was the first person to sin!!! Like I've pulled out SO many random biblical references and that one was never on my radar????? Side note, looking through the lens of the Christian idea of 'original sin' in which everyone is inherently sinful ever since sin entered the world (because of Eve's action in the garden) is a really interesting thing to explore in context of the story now
Once in a fanfic the author made a little comment about Eva being Judas and Wolfgang being Jesus
Eva is actually eve in latin
OKAY BUT WENONA ATE THE THUMBNAIL UPPPP
Yea
WHO IS THIS DIVAAAA
Hey for people who don't want to be spoiled during the stream you guys should not have the live chat on.
There are guaranteed to be people in the chat who are going to spoil who the Blackened is.
This is why i never leave chats on...the people there would spoil no matter what this happens with streamers too sadly
@@Cherry-ob7hx same.. hope WeebyNewz hasn't been spoiled yet..
Thanks ❤❤❤😭😭😭😭
@@zarianavaganzasame😭😭😭😭
Sadly when I first joined the video, the live chat was on before I could turn it off😭
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It's so sad how no one ever thought of Eva being anything more than a mathlete. With applications of math in every field and use in the world, the fact no one ever took her seriously despite how hard she worked and proved to use her math knowledge in other fields only to be looked down is depressing. Even when she expressed her feelings for why she killed, all her peers still invalidated her. Her entire life no one ever took her seriously or capable even Tozu at the end made a joke. She became so untrusting of people, never believing they cared for her well being. Damon may have been the only person she trusted, and felt betrayed by him during the trial when he revealed her plan. Maybe people don't think she has the the most tragic story and don't feel sorry for her, just like her peers, but that feeling of having been invalidated your whole life, told that your life would be good if you listened to what people said you should become. Makes you feel powerless, hence why she took up the liar title earlier. She was spouting so much stuff like "I'm always the one people hate" "None of you actually care about me" "I'll never...get what I deserve", that it implies her whole life she was dealing with so much psychological problems that were simply brushed off because she does math. Not really a talent most would sympathies any hardships with. Which really sucks, and why Tozu specifically targeted her to put as the traitor with how terrible she was mentally. If Wenona never looked at the tablets and revealed her talent, maybe she would not have been mentally taken advantaged of.
Fr! It was interesting to see someone like her who carried herself like Kirigiri wanting friends and feeling belittled and forgotten. Someone who was actually bothered when people ganged up on her, but it wouldn't be believable cus she would seem pretty indifferent. What she did to Diana purely out of spite because of her poor mental state is just a glimpse of just what she might have been through her whole life to become someone like that. I feel bad that nobody except Diana (even after what Eva did to her) took her feelings and reasons seriously. I feel bad because Eva wasn't able to see that Damon and Diana genuinely cared for her and were genuinely hurt by her betrayal, and everyone will only hate her because it's easy to gloss over how bullying, hatred and loneliness can affect a person's trust in the kindness of other people, which is why Eva shouldn't be at fault. I used to be pretty indifferent to her myself cus I just thought she was a Kirigiri but I was absolutely BLOWN AWAY with how she turned out to be someone completely different and she quickly became my favourite character in the whole game. I also love the fanbase and the characters' parallels on Wolfgang and Eva. Wolfgang was someone the whole cast liked and followed as their leader, while Eva was the outcast that no one trusted. While in the fanbase Wolfgang seemed suspicious and evil and Eva seemed tragic and misjudged. However the true nature of these two characters was completely different. Wolfgang died, pitied and respected by the other students, his behaviour turned out to be genuine (at least it's hinted that he was really trying to be good) while Eva died as someone hated by everyone else and as someone who hated everyone, not what you'd expect from your typical antag and support, red herring or not
I too thought she would be a character like Kyoko, and so I never cared about her. But with the way things played out, I felt genuinely horrible for her. Props to the writers for making her more nuanced and complex then I expected.
Same, I honestly couldn't NOT feel sorry for her..
Imagine, trying everything you can do to be seen more than a mathlete for your whole life only to find yourself desperately running up a conveyor belt while sharp math tools Pierce and rip through your skin and flesh... She definitely didn't deserve to go out that way
I really liked how complex her character is, and it was pretty frustrated how she was invalidated at the end, good writing! There's so much going on with Eva that she became one of my favourite characters. I really appreciated how in depth her plan was and not to mention the artists and voice actors who did an amazing job on the sprites and voice when she was losing her mind. I love how she was grasping at every straw until there was nothing left, there was also that cool reference to Eve being tempted by the snake. Everyone did such an awesome job in this chapter!
@@Mysticist6641Your analysis on Eva is how I exactly I empathize with her so much they really outdid themselves with her and Im gonna miss her also, I LOVE how GOOD her plan was like actually she gotten so far not being suspected and even still I was so shocked, Like this plan was genuinely one of if not the best kill plan ive seen in dangan/fangan in general like I actually believe she couldve gotten away with this if one little thing couldve changed
Why did the execution feel much more graphic than most of Danganronpa's executions
because it actually is
Because it is less cartoonish or unrealistic and it is longer than the average executions..
Because the character actual felt emotion while they’re being killed. Most official Danganronpa execution have the characters be surprisingly chill with it (not all but a lot of them)
because this execution wasn’t made by spike chunsoft
I’m pretty sure Danganronpa has to keep thinks relatively milder for the age rating, whereas a fangame has the freedom to do what it wants
I got spoiled for who the killer was on tiktok but I still played the chapter and I was SHOCKED. I did not expect that person to be the victim at all and I’m just mindblown. I love this fan game so so much!
Who is it? Thank you
@@disaster8726I recommend watching a stream or waiting for the execution on the live stream rn. It will be more worth it
@@disaster8726it’s eva
@@disaster8726spoiler
It’s eva
When the chapter released, I didn't open any of my socials 😭😭
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2021 me:Boy I think Wolfgang and Eve will live a few chapters 😊 I said with joy
I was later shot 57 times
I THOUGHT THIS TOO. I AM DEVASTATED
don't you mean...58 stab wounds?
i was so sure Eva will be support and Wolfgang the rival, now i am lost who the rival will be (support could be Jean or Desmond aka the two who helped the most in the trial)
Mood😭😭😭😭😭
FRRR
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When I watched Eva's execution... There was only one thought I could hear in my mind.
"Is this even real?"
Not a SINGLE Fangan has EVER made me think that way, not even ONCE! And this is only Chapter ONE! God damn, when the devs said we weren't ready for what they were cooking, they were serious!
Can't wait to see the rest. You guys take all the time you need in the kitchen to cook up the next five courses of this gourmet meal!
4:14:07 um, ACTUALLY
And he says: "Uhm.. Hello.." after that he's such a boyfailure
Bro is cooked next chapter 😭😭😭
"Erm...hello.." -🤓
I LOVE HIM SM🙏
@@yuvaan_washerehe's best boy
The "Erm..... Hello... " IT WAS SO CUTE 😭❤
Spoilers for the culprit - Proceed with caution.
Eva's Argument Altercation quotes are likely not leaving my head anytime soon. Eva's voice actor was utterly incredible in that last stretch of the chapter.
"IT'S DAMON WHO'S SUSPICIOUS"
[SPOILER TERRITORY. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK]
Okay first off amazing chapter as a whole! Secondly Eva being the killer was definitely not something I was expecting, I honestly expected her to last longer, but her character is honestly so damn interesting and complex. I also don’t blame Damon for being pissed off at Diana’s whole words about “Following in Wolfgang’s footsteps” especially after Wolfgang made him an outcast. Speaking of Damon, he is honestly one of the most interesting protags cause he subverts what a regular protag would be similar to Teruko from DRDT. Wenona and Desmond are also favorites of mine as well. But I don’t exactly like Grace, I’m just hoping that her ego got knocked a peg from this chapter, or she will get humbled later.
That being said I need to talk about specifically the P:EG community. I’m just gonna say this outright don’t say you want more flawed female characters in Fangans if you can’t even handle Eva’s character, I don’t want to hear any of you saying that if you’re not even willing to understand Eva. Secondly, I’ve seen this same damn comment about wasted potential or some crap. I’m sorry would you rather them kill someone who had no development whatsoever thus killing any chance of that character developing? This is Danganronpa, you can’t just develop every character before two or more of them has to be killed off, especially when you have a cast of 16 different people, how exactly do you expect to get a full development of a character before they are a victim or a culprit, it’s fundamentally impossible with this sort of thing to develop a character fully before they are killed off. I’m sorry if you want more development for Wolfgang and Eva, but don’t go blowing up at the people behind this project just because they couldn’t fit a whole full game character development INTO ONE CHAPTER FOR TWO PEOPLE IN A 16 PERSON CAST THAT ALSO NEEDS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL! If you care about this project and its community, then actually support this project with positivity instead of getting pissy when your favorites are killed. Oh boo hoo your favorite character got killed? Cry me a river, this is freaking Danganronpa get over it already.
Every character has loads of potential, I can see tons of AU's and differing plotlines where Wolfgang and Eva live longer, and that's generally what Danganronpa stories should feel like. Both of them were great characters who would have served the story well. Someone has to die early on, and these two were mutually great.
After just finishing the chapter, I'm surprised to hear there's controversy surrounding Eva allegedly. But I suppose some people lack media literacy. Eva's a largely unsympathetic killer that killed in a really degrading yet clever way, who did what she did because of a multitude of factors the game led up too. What she did was awful, but you can understand why she did what she did. Throughout the entire trial people were still making fun of her talent and undermining it.
Thank you so much for talking about the community. I swear to God.😭😭😭😭 that means a ton!!
I agree. However, I do think they had huge extreme potential, I would’ve liked to see their characters more, but thats quite with every character in P:EG. The game devs themselves said that this fan game isn’t going to have the same beats as Danganronpa. Just because it’s a fan game of the real thing, we should still treat it as a separate game.
Spoilers below -
But moving on, I don’t know why, but I really think Desmond and Damon are going to be a locked duo, despite them not being dorm mates. You can see in the interaction of the chapter that they both more or less respect each other, with Damon saying “he’s one of the few normal students,” and Desmond being pretty chill with Damon, despite his speech from the mock trial.
I hope Desmond does become important. I like his more chill attitude, and I think with Diana possibly being the antagonist of the story, with her being probably a nod or a parody to the whole Danganronpa hopeful protagonist (she does have the pin), it would be basically a weird way of Optimism vs Realism, especially with how the other characters reacted to her speech (which was pretty funny).
Honestly I really resonated with Eva, she really reminded me of myself in a way, feeling completely shunned by everyone was a feeling I related heavily to. Grace really annoyed me this chapter, I used to love her bold and fearless she was but now its just plain annoying and enraging. Anyways I think Eva's character is already incredibly fleshed out and I really enjoyed it. Although what she did was cruel I will never hold her for it, the fact is no one stood up for her against wolfganfs treatment of her and Damon even with someone supporting you on the sidelines it fucking hurts when you see people supporting the man that's isolating you from others. While I love insane characters Eva's character is probably my favorite out of all females because of how much I resonate with her lol
Sorry I wrote this after finishing the class trial right before this gameplay bcs how amazing they choose wolfgang and all thing happen in class trial that show how complicated this murder
***SPOILER***
everything that happened in the prologue class trial really affects chapter 1 and maybe other chapters in the future, also I really love how eva act like a killer in first chappet, give all she have, using her talent to making a crazy mechanism for her killing
Wolfgang and Damon could have been Eva's targets, if only Damon didn't support Eva's opinion (that maybe affects Eva emotion bcs its her first time have someone who agree with her), makes it possible for him to be Eva's target seeing how Wolfgang and Damon are the spearheads of the class trial and will make it difficult for Eva to win
After Wolfgang died, everyone who was previously in the prologue class trial just said yes or didn't really want to participate or agree with all of Wolfgang's opinions, slowly in the chapter 1 trial they started to express what they wanted to say, regardless of whether it was related to Wolfgang's death or not (like Eloise, Kai, Toshiko). As for some poeple who still wanna understand how wolfgang could be killed and be part of the discussion
Wolfgang showing his fangs, then became Eva's target, showed a completely a LOGICAL thing that not happen in canon danganronpa series in the first chapter that the first killer would never choose the right target to make they win to escape
if only the prologue class trial had never happened, then there would have been the same cliche murder as danganronpa or fanganronpa before.
"Killing someone who easily changes the flow of discussion and has sharp instincts" is a logical thing that all of them get from observing the prologue class trial (seeing how strong and important wolfgang is in class trial). Eliminating Wolfgang will reduce the percentage of the possibility that the killer will be caught.
I honestly want to let the team cook on this. We are really deviating from the danganronpa formula
That's been my biggest problem with the main games and the fan games. It's too easily predictable and like stated the smart characters always last til chapter 5 before getting offed in some way. I'm happy two of the three most intelligent members of the group gone in a single trial. While playing or watching these I always get annoyed how people set themselves up to be easily caught in trials. I would've done the EXACT same thing as this killer. You eliminate somebody who is a threat to you escaping, then let the idiots squabble amongst themselves while you divert the facts.
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I 100% agree. It was definitely either Wolfgang or Damon who was going to die. Both being strong in their regards of being smart and having good critical thinking, just the only true difference between the two was that Damon had no one on his side and Wolfgang having everyone under his fingertips.
Eva had more of a chance of winning if she killed Wolfgang, as it left the whole team discombobulated, and without his critical skills of being a lawyer, finding the killer would be much harder. And during the trial, less people would want to listen to what Damon had said, as pointed out, Damon didn’t like Wolfgang at all.
I feel like the thing that truly spoiled Eva’s plan was how Damon went to the gaming tournament. If Kai didn’t sign Damon up, she probably most likely pinned the blame on Damon, won, and got out of it alive.
Realistically, if it were up to me if I was in this situation after the death of Wolfgang, I would definitely either aim for Damon or Ulysses, especially if I knew about Ulysses not being able to smell. I wouldn’t go for Wenona since she, although is very smart, isn’t as intimidating compared to Ulysses’ book filled with information and Damon being a strong debater who technically solved 2 cases already.
@@ApoIIo_ I really like you pointed 'Damon didn't like wolfgang' as he really show it on his every monologue.
But than in class trial he said something that kinda off, he hate but respect. I mean okey I'll buy that word but what happen after Diana declare will step on be wolfgang role? Ofc Damon inner will react exact same thing as he really really hate that but I'm sure he can hide it from his face
Damon is one complicated character, in trial he hide his feeling when try to unmask eva killer face, but when saw her deatn Damon tears comes down
this chapter and trial was not what i expected... those who haven't played the chapter yet are in for a ride
(and the execution is absolutely BRUTAL)
Good
Fr bruh I nearly cried during the execution but the art work was so good that I had to keep replaying it (I feel bad for they/them)
@@Gooberson839that execution was so over kill man! Like I know they are technically college students but like- wtf!!!
is the execution that brutal? like sdra2 brutal?
@ineedsleep123 it's like... Sdr2+V3 levels of brutal
This is like a Christmas gift.
a very… scary.. christmas gift.
It's not a good christmas gift.. /lh
That can’t be right because I’m on the naughty list.
@@isaiahbaylor8337 well unless you hate the killer and victim, this could be equivalent to coal 🤷♀️
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Those who call this Chapter wasting potential, I would agree but disagree at the same time
Eva and Wolfgang were both portrayed as important characters, and I think having them both dead not only contributes to big ass element of surprise setting a good head start, but also makes A LOT of room for all the other characters to shine
If Eva and Wolfgang stayed alive, the rest of the cast would've might taken a more backseat role
But now that they are gone, it leaves them to take the spotlight (Kai being the new support, and Wenona being an antag or smth)
Anyways this Chapter was dope in setting the beginning of the fangan, and you can't change my mind
Honestly this is one of the only opinions I agree with! You worded it better that what I could've done so thank you for putting out this comment :)
I’m not going to spoil anything but this chapter was a HUGE slap in the face.
Kind of spoilers...?
I keep thinking that what Wolfgang hallucinated was his father, like the blackmail was written "like father, like son beneath a sheeps skin hide's a wolfish mind" and him saying "I'm not like you, I'll never be like you" and stuff. I'm curious what his father did, maybe from when he said "bring her back" he might be referring to his mother, that i think his father might have killed. Yeah i just thought that was incredibly interesting and I'm also super curious😅
YESS I was wondering throughout the trial if they would ever figure out what wolfgang was saying! I'm so glad someone else caught that!!
Apparently in Free Time Events, he said her mother was a lawyer and admired her. It seems like he thought Diana was her mother because of the resemblance they have.
@disaster8726 This could be used as evidence for the last chapter kinda like rantaros' role in v3 to maybe include wolfgang inlater chapters.
1ST CHAPTER EXECUTION SPOILERS AND ANALYSIS!
Eva Tsunaka's Execution Analysis by ReynTheWorld
We know she introduced herself as the ultimate liar and it's even crossed out in the text of her execution name with her real talent being below it in bloody text, because it was revealed in the chemistry room that she actually lied about her actual talent
It's also a nice detail that as the ultimate mathlete the things she's being hit by in her way of escaping are tools used in math, it symbolises how she can't escape from that talent and how it'll keep coming back to her and making it worse no matter how hard she runs away from it and tries to avoid it
The fire in the execution can represent two things, the simple one being the phrase "liar liar pants on fire" because she "was the ultimate liar" or well lied about that and the other one being how Eve ate the apple after being tempted to sin and was banished to hell, like how Eva took Tozu's offer and started the killing game and ending up in a deep pit of flames
Everyone commenting the trial and/or the killer and I'm always thinking how cute Ingrid is. Her voice actress did an amazing job, perfect voice for her ❤
God, I want her to survive so badly, but given she's standing next to Damon in the trial I got a baaaad feeling 😭😭😭
best girl
if ingrid dies let’s come back to this and mourn
@kairaaas indeed
Exactly, same goes for Eloise too!!
I just KNEW the chat was gonna say the killers name and pretend they “figured it out” good thing I beat the chapter by now but be careful in the future guys
if your talking about me i just geniuenly theorised it being either desmond or eva
4:28:48 no this actually makes so much sense, no other character would also know that information. omg
I know people commented earlier that wolfgang was killed because his talent was too OP and he was too smart to be kept alive, but I didn't expect it to be the same case for the killer as well... bro this is like drv3 but instead of kaede dying it's like kokichi and shuichi or something, bro thats crazyyy
It’s honestly so refreshing to see. How in the entirety of v3 NOONE thought to kill the detective???? And Shuichi was also frail and depressed he was such an easy target
@@ptr4410 V3 Spoilers:
It's because none of the killers had motive to in-game
1: Kaede obviously wasn't going to
2: Kirumi wanted someone who gave up on life and an easier target, and Ryoma was better than Shuichi for that goal
3: Kiyo is a woman-serial killer, Shuichi's out of the question.
4: Miu clearly wanted Kokichi out in general. Yes, she should've thought of getting Shuichi as well, but she was probably banking on the fact that she had an alibi.
5: Kaito and Kokichi, and technically Maki, were obviously dealing with their own things, they didn't need to kill Shuichi
No matter how you see it, Shuichi just wasn't in the minds of any of the killers
@@scream7709 Yea I understand the motives I’m just saying in a realistic scenario the detective would be much more interesting and grounded to be the first ones to go. And Shuichi is even my favorite protagonist in dangranronpa but seeing a realistic portrayal writing wise in the danganronpa formula is sooo refreshing with Eden’s Garden
@@ptr4410 oh I understand, yeah I've always been an advocate about straying away from the dangan pattern. True creativity is expanding past the original material
SPOILERS (for execution and culprit)
that execution was actually so insane what the hell. i genuinely have no words like
the math tools??? the collar forcefully pulling her despite her attempts to not let it happen???? the suspense?? cara?????? DAMON’S TEARS??? god that left me so speechless all i could do was stare at my ipad’s screen…😭😭😭😭😭 i honestly wanted to hear so much more from the culprit, i thought she was going to last so much longer in the game…man all i can say is good freaking game bro goodnight😭😭🙏
could not believe her desperation and never-ending dedication to escape from her execution. rest in peace ultimate liar, i’m sure she didn’t lie at all about saying she deserved to live 🥹
im actually glad characters that im guessing would die are completely wrong cuz i get to be surprised by the mystery, its so satisfying!
also i really like the writing of characters, esp the killer :))
eden's garden's writing is so good cuz u dont wanna rely on the stereotypes and tropes typical danganronpa and even some other fanganronpas used. ANYONE you can imagine could be the killer.
Who were you suspecting?
@wrenascence
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it was honestly all the 3 redheads 😭 kai, diana and cassidy. my basis for this is back in the mock trial, kai and cassidy have many lines in the previous trials so i figured its their time to go next. (totally ignoring eva and wolfgang cuz im biased with dr tropes) diana is cuz of the chameleon theory circulating. so i was at first devastated when damon picked diana early on cuz i thought its over lol
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Honestly, I knew either Eva or Wolfgang would die, because I knew they weren’t gonna pull a Kaede.
I LOVE IT SO MUCH GUYS, when I realized what you had chosen for first victim and killer I was like "they did not", but you actually delivered and I was so unbelievably satisfied. The direction where you've taken the story is genuinely refreshing and I can't wait for the second chapter when this is already the best first chapter of any fangame I've seen. Please continue making bold writing choices like that 🙏
Also, I was happy that we got so much Kai lol
Snow was so talented as Diana this trial (well they always have been) omfg absolutely amazing. Ofc everyone else did amazing too!
I love you Diana but the way nobody GAF at the end killed me
Me fr like i love you Diana your my best girl but their reaction was lol
I recommended viewers to turn chat off, unfortunately spoiling definitely can happen and people could 'hide' the spoliers by pretending their theories if that makes sense
So the victim in this chapter was really unexpected. I'm scared to find out who the real wolf in sheep clothing is...😅
watch out to not get spoiled, i p’d advice you to not read the chat
Ok
Yeah, the supposed Rivals like Togami, Nagito, & Kokichi. Expected them to live longer, but not the first victim. The next Rival may be the bunny ears girl, or the glasses girl.
Real the chat history on the daily life video are just... Wow...
Now that I think about it, the victim is kind of poetic. The wolf in sheeps clothing will ultimately meet the end of a sheep.
I just finished the chapter and I gotta say, this was an absolute masterpiece from start to finish, an absolute roller coaster of the many emotions that Danganronpa also made me feel years ago, the voice acting, art, music, it was all so well made and put together that this game will be something i will absolutely be going to be thinking about for months.
Cannot wait to see where the story and this project will go from here, because it completely blew away my expectations and the theories I had from chapter 0.
I LOVE the execution btw!! The animation and the absolute pain and panic on (not spoiling) their face especially when (SPOILER) __ started crying over their execution as well as the blackened uuuuuu.
SPOILER:
Eva my dearest… why did it ave to be you when I was finally seeing you as one of my favourites 😢😢 (though I’m proud of the creators for taking such a big leap with killing off the fan favourites to expand the story) also good job on subtle foreshadowing for future events with the dead student Cara reaching out a hand, I wonder what that would later tell 🧐
And once again, no one seems to recognize Damon’s attributes to the trial, this guy is going to have a Vendetta for everyone 😔
*SPOILERS AND MY PERSONAL THOUGHTS*
THIS ACTUALLY CHANGES EVERYTHING. WOLFGANG AND EVA ARE THE STANDARD CHARACTERS THAT ARE KNOWN FOR STAYING ALIVE IN THE LATER CHAPTERS BUT THIS GAME SAYS OTHERWISE. And I was thinking back then that what if Wolfgang was the first victim to actually die since it would be smart for the killer to target someone who'll expose them too quickly given by the talent they acquired. I also just noticed, the way Eva made her way to get the special perk was also a reference for Eve in the bible getting tempted to take a bite from the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. I would like to think that the following executions will take reference from the bible since I saw one of the comments here pertaining about it. It's also nice for the other characters to actually see them participating unlike the dummy trial. Kudos to the people who made this game and the voice actors! Really made me emotional despite only being in chapt 1.
this whole scene from 3:20:00 was soooooooo fucking good man, the art, the voice acting, the sound design, the writing, it all just comes together so perfectly. this was my favorite part of the whole chapter and probably one of my favorite scenes from a fangan ever. very excited for the future of this project, even if you guys did kill off my favorite first 😔
absolutely!!!! i dont see enough people talking about this scene! i admittedly didn't like wolfgang all that much but it was really nice that we got one final moment to showcase his character--and what a showcase it was! i really gotta highlight his va because mannn their performance was spine-chilling. just all the desperation and /hunger/ oough. and diana's va did phenomenally in portraying her fear in the moment. which is to say the va work really complemented each other haha. the new sprites for the two of them were also sooo good, getting to see these characters breakdown and jjustttt hdgejehdhdh. really everyone involved did wonders in enhancing the emotions of the scene! it has to be my favourite part of this chapter, period, haha. so many props to the edens garden crew for giving us this absolute masterpiece ^^
@@whomst.isthere haha wolfgang's actually my favorite character LMAO but yeah i agree it was so good i'm gonna be think about it for a longgggggg time
Awesome chapter. Can’t wait until chapter 2 comes out in 4 years. Also SPOILER:
Grace’s interjection before her rebuttal showdown caught me off guard. Just hearing “SHUT THE FUCK UP” out of nowhere coupled with angry Grace flipping us off had me rolling.
The live chat should be a reminder for me to watch any Eden’s garden content AFTER the premiere because some of yall are weird 🌚
Fr
Fr I legit got spoiled and from what I've saw bcz someone posted a video of the ending of the trial
From now on I'mma make sure to watch after the premier and it's best that if people don't wanna get spoiled they should watch after the premier
Not only that I heard the last chat had said loads of inappropriate stuff about the characters
REAL. ☹
like i support selfshipping and i dont mind if you really love a character but keep your weird fantasies to yourself. you're commenting on a PUBLIC chat area, ANYONE can see it.
@@floofyfurret REAL like do people not realize what you say on the internet becomes permit!!
SPOILERS FOR CULPRIT
Eva’s execution and Damon crying… AGHHHHHH
I loved their interactions so much… 😭
Me too... It hurts so much I loved their chemistry 😭
Same. It was genuinely heartwarming to see them become such close friends. I was honestly rooting to see more of them as a duo.. The slow unraveling of Eva's plan was really hard to watch. I don't think she was lying when about what she said to Damon in the storage room, I think she genuinely regretted how events forced her to set up a murder and betray his trust.
Similarly, I doubt she personally hated Wolfgang or wanted him dead, but she definitely resented him for isolating her and making such an easy target in the first place (and yeah.. any fan in this community can tell you that the prevailing theory was that Eva was going to be the first victim).
IK I FUCKING BAWLED MT EYES OUT
THAT SCENE GUTTED ME😭😭😭😭 it was brutal… just- wow
It make me sad
Slight Spoilers, I think:
Are we just gonna bypass what Tozu said?! 😃😃😃
He can do that to ANY of the students now in the future 😀😀😀
Spoiler!
I love this so much!
I am a bit angry that Wolfgang died because him and Jett are my fav characters but if I must admit, his way of being murdered was put so perfectly. Eva being executed was unexpected and they way she was executed had me in shock, it was so brutal. Like thinking she had a chance of surviving and she also had to go through all the pain such as being lodged with screws and metal which made her bleed a ton, and finally thinking she would get help just to fall down to her demise which is a literal burning furnace is insane!
This case was bigger and way more complicated than a 1st case has ever been. Don't get me wrong, it was great and everything but it seemed a little heavy for a tutorial. It was a doozy of a case though. Y'all really cooked with this, it was almost too good. Keep it up!
Tutorial is what the prologue was for
@@skyden4637 Good point. I wish a regular Danganronpa game did something like that. So technically this'd be case 2. Who knows, we could be seeing a double next time we come back to this.
The prologue was the tutorial so they are free for making a hard case in chapter 1
The prologue was extremely smart and actually fixed some problems the danganronpa games suffered from, such as easing us into the trial mechanic without sacrificing intricacies and dramatics of cases and letting us see how everyone, including the first victim, acts in a class trial. It also helped the group of characters to establish relationships as well as what they act like to the audience
@@P4R0D_Y agree! I dont think the project will be as good without the prologue trial, definilly it didnt just make it more enjoyable it help a lot with the development in chapter 1, i wish more dangaronpa games do that so we can see everybody in the trial
1:32:12 "The tree of ignorance emulates the wonder of nature but does not achieve it". I'm really liking this ongoing theme of things that emulate, mimic, give the illusion of being the real thing, but aren't actually the real thing. We see it with the books in Damon's room, the floor in the pharmacy, the tree of illusion, etc. I mean, this is literally a danganronpa fan game. It's emulating danganronpa, but it isn't actually danganronpa. Because it's just the illusion of a new danganronpa game, I wonder if this ongoing theme will come into play later on.
I mean, eden's garden is one of the best fan games I've seen particularly when it comes to emulating the style of the danganronpa games. Because it seems like it's trying to be accurate to the spirit of danganronpa games, it's entirely possible that people's preconceptions and expectations surrounding a danganronpa series title will lead to logic that fits inside that box. Maybe that can be exploited later on for a plot twist or something, while still keeping with the theme of this game... just thinking
SPOILERS (BEWARE)
i don't ever comment but this was absolutely phenomenal. Wolfgang being the first victim was surprising at first but slowly made sense after I realised how much focus his character had gotten in both the prologue and this chapter. ALSO ELOISE GOT MORE INVOLVED IN THE TRIAL, I'm so happy :D
I love how Eva's character was written and her feeling of inferiority and insecurity makes me wanna hug her so bad 😭 2ND FIRST BEST GIRL DYING WAS NOT ON MY BINGO CHART (wenona stans unite). The murder plan was so well-executed and planned and Eva prolly wouldn't have been outed if it weren't for her exposing her blackmail to Damon. Gurl literally picked the best person to murder (aside from Damon himself) and a part of me thinks that she set up the mechanism which would result in the explosion of the generator as a way to show ppl that she's more than just a mathlete and that she's more than capable in other academic fields.
I feel so bad for Diana though, she witnessed TWO people dying right before her eyes, give this girlie a break pls
THE EXECUTION? was not prepared for the quality and how torturous it was, though from what P:EG has been cooking I dunno what I was expecting. The fact Eva still tried climbing up the conveyer after being LITERALLY IMPALED by math tools and pins, SHE GOT THAT DEDICATION. If I hadn't been spoiled abt her being the killer beforehand I prolly would've been more surprised abt her being the blackened.
THANK YOU TO THE P:EG TEAM THIS IS TRULY THE BEST XMAS PRESENT.
🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯wenona+everyone else🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯 (oh yea candles for wenona, and everyone else cus I'm getting too attached)
Literally, the only reason she lost was because Damon was present.
@@sliceninja4546 yea and she put too much trust in him telling him abt everything
@@duphin5045 it kind off was a good and bad telling him everything, like kwoning everything she knew would make easy to pin the murder on him if Diana framed fail, but it also end up making him the one to discover her
@@Cherry-ob7hx yea truee
I will say none of you are ready for the SEVERAL plot twists
Also the boss fight music(idk what the thing before the closing argument is called) is insanely good and I will be playing it on repeat when it comes out
Wow I just finished the chapter and um that was definitely brutal… but perfectly executed!! Well done Project Eden’s garden team
No puns intended
@miora1020LMAOO
(Spoiler alert)
Such an amazing trial. I remember feeling like the biggest bad ass going into it, thinking that, of course the killer's gonna be one of the only people without an alibi...
Then i realized how much evidence was left, and the mid trial break hit-
Just finished watching chapter 1... thinking "oh man too bad this is an indie project done by volunteers, guess I'll have to wait a year for the next part of the story, damn I really enjoyed it" JUST TO FIND OUT THERE'S MORE??!?! FIVE HOURS TOO--YOU DID THE WHOLE TRIAL??!! HOLY SHIT DUDE............ bro I've never seen anything like this T_T be careful everyone of the suggested videos, and the rest of the comment section, I've heard tales of spoilers everywhere
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the line "it pissed me off" is way too raw and I'm so excited for more antagonist Damon
We have 14 students and 5 chapters left, Tozu said that the game would stop once there are only 2 survivors remaining. Assuming that it will not have any suicides and with one double-kill, then it will have 3 survivors.. My point being Eden's Garden may do a triple-kill or do a sacrifice like in V3. Tozu haven't mention about double plus killings yet so we'll see
Actually....the cast would probably defeat Tozu and destroy the game in the end.....So there much likely to have more than 2....I think there will be at least 4 survivors
V3 I believe specifically also stated the Killing Game would last until two people remain-it simply seems like a blanket rule since essentially trials can’t be held with two people, rather than hinting that there WILL be two survivors. If they want, they could have one person live on as well
I think the creators SPECIFICALLY said that there wouldn’t be two victims in Chapter 3. Don’t quote me on that, though.
@@isaiahbaylor8337 yeah that's the case, they said they wouldn't follow the tropes regarding each DR trial, and they quoted as exemple the 3rd trial always having 2 victims.
HOWEVER they didn't said there would never be 2 victims, just that the third chapter wouldn't follow that trope which is different...
01:01:31 THAT MAN IS SMOKIN HOT.
You can see Damon struggling to focus lol
Nahh, the only meat on that man's body is his pectorals, goddamn he's a twig.
This is the First time an execution (other then maybe leon/gonta) made me feel sick, like i actually wanted to vomit a bit…. It’s so fucking good, you out did yourself every step of the way, i hope this gets finished i don’t care if chapter 2 takes 3 years again it will 10000% be worth the wait
It was 2 years. It might not take so long, as I understand a lot of that time went on readying the basic big trial systems and honing the models, that work is now mostly completed and it may not take that long for the next to be completed. Depends on how far the writing is and how their personal lives go during the next years.
Even better then, i get to wait less for more peak
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LMAOOO THE "pissed me off" AT THE END HE'S SUCH A HATER 😭😭😭
Damon wakes up every day just to be a hater, if this was a mainline DR game he'd be the antagonist
5:17:40 There is a bug here, it says Damon even though it should be Tozu
Yep
Just finished it. Honestly lost for words. Everything about this experience was amazing, phenomenal and an absolute masterclass from all those involved. The mystery, to the trial to the execution and everything in between was just brilliantly done. I am absolutely looking forwards to see where you all take this story in future. 10/10, 5 Stars. YEAHHHH!!!!
"Erm actually ☝🤓" I can't believe that fits Ulysses 😭😭😭
(SPOILERS FOR THE CULPRIT. Please don’t read until you finish the video!)
So I was thinking, it makes perfect sense why Eva had to go. Biblical references aside, what kept Damon also isolated from the group (besides his outburst in the prologue) is a general distrust and skepticism for everyone. He felt like Eva supported that view, so stuck around her (and trusted her. Poor Damon this is going to cause trust issues. Daily Life is going to be fun to rewatch).
If the devs and writers want Damon to branch out and form relationships with the rest of the group, Eva would have prevented him from moving forward from his current mindset in a way. Like, the poster discussion in the pharmacy. They kept secrets and fell back to kind of making a support feedback loop with each other (distrust of the group. which definitely from their point of view makes perfect sense).
I mean, it’s still Chapter 1 so Damon’s character development can go so many different ways- Who knows? Damon might get pushed to interact with the group more or withdraw/be more antagonistic after the person he trusted most is gone. But yeah I think Eva, if she were to be like the Kirigiri for Makoto, would have…kept him the same if that makes any sense? It’s kind of why the first game also kind of fell flat for me, but glad it got switched up here! Rest in peace Eva, and 100% sure this is still going to be part of Damon’s internal conflict next chapter.
The dynamics are so interesting and I’m super excited to see how the group dynamics are shaken up (Diaannnaaa! Kaaaiiii! I have a feeling the two will be important for Damon).
I finished the game earlier but I have to give my congrats to the P:EG team. Cool story and an elaborate trial? Sign me up !!!
Highkey the best chapter 1 in all fangans and maybe better than V3 but that’s for another day.
ofc, those who know what happened will know this shifted the direction we were all expecting this game to take but im trusting the team to cook with carrying this initial momentum till the end
@Limji145
When you say “finished” does that also include seeing both versions with and without Pathos?
Unlike the mock trial, there are more opportunities to use Pathos, and while it doesn’t necessarily always change the overall outcome, it’s always intriguing to see all potential outcomes.
i got the pathos route first try actually
spoilers for that route :
it was mostly different with damon trusting diana because of how much she’s done for him, plus him calling out to tozu asking him when he would say a trial is over iirc
It was the Book of Genesis basis all along!
Wolfgang Akire and Eva Tsunaka
Adam and Eve
Eve/Eva was the one who picked the apple from Lucifer’s snake form/Damon, which she has passed it on to Adam/Wolfgang. Then again, the apple of all knowledge/traitor perk was made by God/Tozu anyway.
Then the God/Tozu punished them for “breaking the rules” (Sort of in Eva’s case) - which is the punishment of making them mortals to die.
I also liked how the boss battle has Tohou and Snake elements there. Those were classics.
5:27:11 HER MAD SPRITE???
The quality is so high that it's beyond imagination. Whether it's the plot, the voice acting, the character designs and illustrations, and so on, thank you for all your efforts! Looking forward to what comes next. Additionally, I adore Diana.😍
BIG FAT SPOILER PLEASE DON'T LOOK
god damnm it i knew it, KNEW IT FROM THE START IS THAT WHY WE WERE SPENDING SO MUCH FREE TIME EVENTS ON HER GOD DAMN IT (I watch instead of playing)
The scary thing is that I called it - Wolfgang was giving me too many Angie vibes, disappointing about the killer though (I thought she was the Kyoko/Chiaki of this game)
i thought she was just the default person to spend free times events with lol
To the 28 Jett fans, you are so real🔥
Always loving the masked man
Jett is best dude!!
I noticed, where's the part where all of the students vote for the blackened? I think y'all forgot about the voting scene where the students especially you vote Eva on their own screens and Eva will be found guilty or not in some spinning wheel like in the original game. Am I the only one who noticed this? But still though, worth the 2 year wait! 👏👏👏
I don't think they would forget something big like that, i think it's intentional... maybe they don't need to vote on a screen, just that the majority of people agree on who the culprit is and the trial is nearing its end...?? Idk, though, since it's only the first chapter.
@@JustaRandomDudeIdkThat's actually been said in the sixth rule. I think this will imply to all chapters if this is the case. But who am I kidding, majority still wins and it's probably automatic where proper voting is unnecessary. I'm really not complaining lol 🤷
Everything about this chapter has been a higher quality than any Danganronpa fangame ever made. From the voice acting to the executions, this blows the original games themselves out of the water. Well done to the entire team who worked on this!
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Damon and Eva are basically Makoto and Sayaka. A protagonist and their dead chapter 1 friend
Im from the future, the ending is so FIRE 🔥 I genuinely got surprised seeing "whodunnit", this team made a masterpiece of a story (i still can't believe they were the murderer)
*Risk at spoilers*
They really kept to the recurring theme of the killer using misdirection to frame one of the “leading” students, yet this is the first time we seen an murder by electrocution.
A lot more of the students who were “indifferent” during the mock trial pulled their weight, and offered more to the debate, which helped further define and clarify their character.
That verdict threw me, though it lacked the tension and resolution of a “Voting Time” Result. Also, while “perks” aren’t necessarily an original, to include such a detailed and effective perk… not to mention how it could even circumvented certain rules
the execution… at the end, the “victim” from the mock trial was included, for those who might have been confused
That desperation, climbing on bloodied hands, only to fall into the fire when they reached so close to escape… considering a certain phrase, it is somewhat fitting, especially if you get a proper look at the “title” of the execution.
Spoiler Territory (kinda?)
As i said, the killer was fire🔥, gotta admit the whole execution was brutal, the way they grabbed the podium trying not to get into the execution??? the way they kept crawling even with all the things literally tearing them apart? And the joke at them that "not even the dead people will help you" is so unnerving and interesting considering who the killer is.
Also, the post execution with them (not spoiling who) giving a (not so motivating) pep talk made me love their character more than i do
Nah you not
*SCREAMS CUTELY!!!*
...Even though I watched the class trial through a streamer, I will not spoil it!
If yall want to spoil, at least do it with a SPOILER TAG on the top!
Someone actively wanting to spoil something is annoying af it ruins the whole experience
@@AeroVXByeah, they need to learn spoiling stuff for other people really sucks
@AeroVXB
Real. On the daily life livestream, I was spoiled of the victim in the chat 🥲
many people got spoiled in tiktok because ppl just put the spoiler warning just for a second-
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I don't know how to explain it but diana using a hair clip for the lock, taking off her heels to escape, and using makeup on her wound is kinda iconic....👑
Yup! Finally I saw someone talk about her impressive character showcased in this chapter!
I know this won't really make sense, but I wish Diana would be our supporting character. It's just too repetitive for me if they'll decide to make her the antagonist like Wolfgang.
I'm so ready for the chapter 1 trial for Eden's Garden.🍎
Wenona looking epic in the thumbnail.
Theory: Grace killed Wolfgang by accident when the taser electrocuted him while he was wet.
One reason I think that, Grace has the rabbit ears hat, and Wolfgang being referred to as a wolf in sheeps clothing. If not, maybe Eva, because she said she's a jack of all trades after all.
rip to all the maitsunaka shippers💔💔😔
crying. HE EVEN CRIED AT THE END … im in disbelief rn 😭
THEYRE ALL IN MEXICO TOGETHER
@@hyulukaluvr weeby watcher spotted 😭😭
@b04stert04ster lmfaoo 😅
I thought Dianna was gonna die but that speech at the end has me thinking she might be a survivor, or end up being more important than we all thought like Chapter 5 importance or something
i'm honestly speechless
i figured out a few things, but not everything. hats off to the writing crew, artists, the voice actors, everyone
voices were a bit quiet though despite having everything at max volume on my end, not sure if that's a game thing or whoever was playin had the volume turned down.
what an incredible way to start, even though there are still a handful of questions left
Major Spoilers below(I have a LOT to say)
First of all, English isn't my first language, so I apologize in advance for any mistakes.
So...what else can I even say? This may be recency bias, but it's easily THE best 1st Chapter in Danganronpa history, be it official games or fangames...at least of the ones I had the pleasure to see. Which admittedly aren't that many, but whatever.
Between a very convoluted yet creative murder set up that is still explained rather well, stellar visuals and ost, and excellent subversion of expectations of characters like Wolfgang, Damon, and ESPECIALLY Eva. Seriously, they could have gone the easy way out by giving Eva a very understandably tragic motivations -- which, in a way, she still has -- but slowly going over the trial minute after minute and realizing that the 'Kirigiri' of this game, so to speak(introverted genius ally with good intentions beneath it all) is a geniunely bad and selfish person who more than lives up to the status of the "Ultimate Liar"...like, that slow realization was such a horrifying experience for me personally. So much more horrifying than if she was JUST the culprit. It is also equally horrifying to revisit the Daily Life segment with all this context in mind.
It also reminded me of a certain character I was writing in a fangame of an unrelated series(that I will probably never end up making since I suck at making sprites), so seeing that this sort of idea CAN actually work made me incredibly happy.
On that topic, however, I do have ONE major critique. Only one, but I wish to vocalize it. The revelation that Tozu basically forced her to kill -- due to the whole Traitor Perk situation...yeah, I actually thinks that takes away from her character. I understand that it helps make Eva's situation and mentality seem even more tragic and sympathetic, I really do. But seeing her continuously spout excuses after excuses about her motivations even after being voted at the end seemed already tragic enough to me -- showcasing the kind of person she ended up becoming due to how the world treated her. It's just a different kind of tragic rather than 'kill or die'.
But that's just my personal opinion, and I understand the decision. Other than this nitpick...well, hats off is all I have to say. I'll be more than glad to wait for even more amazing Chapters
I kinda like the whole "having a deadline to kill" thing.
Eva It's based on Eve. She bit the apple aka took the traitor perk. It's interesting that the team took something from the original game (trigger Happy havoc) that many people forget about. We all remember traders being in dangonronpa but we don't remember Sakura as a traitor. Like Eva, Sakura was given a trader perk and similar parameters. But the difference lies in the fact that Sakura stood honorable against the traitor perk (technically she was giving a pass because a murder was committed before her killing limit expired) while Eva used it as motivation and justification to commit murder.
I'm not really religious but The fact she took the perk (something she could have turned down Knowing the rules and all but didn't as tozu mentioned) and it kicked off the killing game as a result is similar to Eva kicking of sin in humans.
I think this shows a pivotal character a flaw that isn't just live or die. Victimization.
Thing shes valid in feeling like a victim for includes: that she is a victim of is being kidnapped But her victim mentality and believing she deserved more is what caused her to be self-isolating, what caused her to take the perk and what caused her to die.
A contrasts with a noble character like Sakura who took the perk without knowing everything in the picture. She didn't get the luxury of having a mock trial like this cast did. I'm not even sure she even met the cast she is a part of until after she took the perk. Her lover was clearly in trouble and that was her motivation which in itself is selfless.
Even still, Sakura took her own life as a compromise for saving both the people around her and her lover, she didn't want people to feel scared that she was a traitor so to ease everybody she sacrificed herself.
Eva on the other stood up and said F them kids and F you two.. not only was her motive for getting out simply based on her own survival and not considering anyone else but herself. But she's literally in the same situation as Sakura was.
So in my opinion, The fact that she put her OWN life in danger by taking the trailer perk rather than attempting to trust diana, shows was critical flaws in her character.
✨Victimization ✨
Which led to you her own involuntary
Cremation😘✨😘✨✨👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🟰🟰➕🟰➖
Great chapter, see you guys in the next 2 years 😭
Me before the deadly life and trial: happy ig and full of life ^^
(Editing after with spoiler warnings!!!)
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Woah that was alot to process, the blackened was genuinely someone I did not expect!? Hello but the arguments and the final case look over had me so overwhelmed (in a positive way) I genuinely liked this chapter alot !! Even if I expected the victim/blackened to be people that would go farther but I guess are the first to fall… and also something about Damon has me suspicious not sure why
what about now😅
*SPOILERS KINDA?**
The execution was brutal... I had my hand covering my mouth just the sheer amount of pain that must have felt and the animation being so good, ooff..
It's too early to call the victim/killer "wasted potential" when all we have is Chapter 1. Rantaro didn't get development until Chapter 6.
That being said, it's kinda hard to be excited about Chapter 2 when the two most interesting characters are already dead :/
While this is fairly valid criticism, this should leave you excited, Eva and Wolfgang both had such major presences in the cast that now with their absence we'll get to see how the others flourish on their own, like how Wenona and Eloise shined this chapter
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3:20:21 I have a theory that Cara and a woman from photo of Wolfgang's blackmail are the same person. She and Wolfgang had close realtionship with each other, but something bad happened between them which explains Wolfgang's behavior during the mock trial and also Wolfgang probably hallucinating her in place of Diana and being willing to stab her.
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This first chapter was truly something amazing, I really feel that the unexpected deaths of Wolfgang and Eva were a necessary part of this killing games story, and I loved everything about it, especially when you realize this correlates to the various things the characters and the location of the killing game symbolizes
The creators have created a masterpiece! This danganronpa rocks! From the interactions, to voice acting and puzzles, everything works and is worthy of praise! We should remember that Desmond has access to various dangerous gadgets as a hunter! Diana was very close to dying! The execution was both brutal and unsettling. It was a reference to the Bible as well. As for the future chapters? I am rooting for Cassidy and Wenona and Ingrid the most and as for boys? I am rooting for stuntman/daredevil Jett, archer Desmond and Jean, the captain. I do not trust the music producer + Kai + the stylist Diana and Ulysses. Toshiko has potential and so does the master of golf.