Made a small mistake saying Japan invaded Manchuria in 1933 when the conflict began in 1931, But the Battle of Rehe did take place beginning in February of 1933 and that it the crux of the point. My Bad. Special thanks to QAZ and Whatismoo for help with sources and footage.
@@YourAverageKriegsman The Chinese had tanks that were both small in number and over decade old. And they were the enemy the Japanese were fighting with the longest, so no they weren't better, and for much the of the Second Sino-Japanese war, China essentially had no tanks.
Let me elaborate Smol Japanese tank = funny joke Big allied/other axis tanks = not so small, but still funny in their own ways, im just sayin, the earliest tanks ever by any country, is like paper mache and cardboard on treads with a pellet gun turret and a dirt bike engine
Exactly, the Japanese tanks did awful against modern designs like the sherman, matilda and valentine, but against small minor nations that only have infantry or only small amounts of tanks, not such a stupid decision
@@YourAverageKriegsman The Chinese in Manchuria didn’t have tanks nor did the Chinese government or the government of the Philippines. Pretty much no one they were fighting at first had tanks besides the British, who were giving their tanks to the European theatre. There’s a lot of fighting in the 30’s that’s not technically WWII but for all intents in purposes it is.
Any tank is better than no tank. When the Japanese invaded Malaya in 1942 the British had no armour beside a handful of obsolete Lanchester armoured cars. Needless to say, the campaign was a walkover for the Japanese.
The British were also outnumbered and half a world away from their homeland. Any amount of armor they had would've been destroyed by bombers escorted by Zero's
Despite literally being outnumbered everywhere else. Little naval support, little air support, little armored support, even AT guns weren’t that abundant, though, still they were common. Take into account the fact that they were , in many situations, fighting the best of the best, the Imperial Guard, they were boned from the start. Then add into the fact that Australia had thrown many of its forces into Africa, and Britain was the industrial center for its equipment, there was no way they could’ve stood up to the very local power of Japan.
Potential History: What is it with the axis and going through the woods. Some Schmuck: What is it with the allies and never considering the enemy would attempt going through the woods.
It's really just quite unsporting of them. I mean we made these large and clearly defensible encampments for them to run headlong into. And here they are just walking around our immovable fortresses. That's just bloody not fair, if I say so myself, and I do!
@Charles Lee Ray A good bit of romanzations for Japanese are thankfully pronounced exactly as you would think given their spelling. But not all of them.
“Sir, the 17 pounder won’t fit!” “Put it in sideways!” “Sir, the radio won’t fit!” “Cut a hole in the back and stick it out the back!” “Sir, the engine isn’t strong enough!” “Take five car engines and put them together!”
Nguyễn Hải Dương Your right but it will most likely won’t go one on one. It will either be Panther ambushes the Sherman for most of the time and in some battles, Sherman ambushes Panther. But you’re still right about Panther able to beat Shermans in one on one engagements
@Nguyễn Hải Dương Once the original problems of the panther were fixed this happened after kursk where many Panthers broke down before seeing combat the panther was no more unreliable then a t34 or sherman the problem was with the process of repairing which as anyone who knows anything about ww2 knows the germans were the worst when it came to military production and repair of broken vehicles the panther did not magiclly fucking break for no reason or because it was designed horrible it was a good tank with around the same reliability as any other medium tank of the time.
I feel like Japanese tanks vs Sherman’s is like a middle school bully going into Highschool, he’s dealt with smaller kids (China) and he’s ready to show up his bigger classmates. But then he realizes that he’s picking on Seniors and gets the shit beat out of him.
imgur.com/x9yJ9YI Yes you alright! The Chi-Ha using Tokko Kou APHE shell can penetrate 114mm of armor at close range. Enough to even pen the Tiger 1 frontally.
M4s vs Panthers and Tigers is like a high schooler vs. College kids, Pz.V and Pz.VI vs Soviet late war heavies is like college kids vs grown ass adults
Well the ho it is almost a failed project because of its heavy weight would get stuck in the sand and mud because the Ho-Ri has a 105mm gun as well as the armor protection would work against the tank in the islands the Japanese would be defending from the Americans
The thing is those flying bois wouldnt have stood a chance against their own anti-aircraft guns. American naval anti-aircraft fire was so dense and layered that it was basically a shield. This is why the japanese turned to Kamikaze tactics, because they were going to die attempting a bombing run anyway, may as well go all-in.
@@boyketer3585 *When Americans send more technology support to Japan than their own country, resulting in one having a great economy and infastructure, while their own crumbles.* >Why the fuck not? Sounds like a *GREAT* idea!
@@TheStig_TG Both weren't that armored, now if you talking about the M4A3E2 with the 76mm Cannon well they were basically tigers or even better than a tiger
Soldiers in Europe: *”Oh shit it’s a tank!!! Find cover!!!”* Marines in the Pacific: *”hey look a tank, hand me that large rock, I’m gonna go bash its turret in...”*
Europe: “Taking fire from that CUTE little Panzer! Fucking adorable like a puppy, KILL IT!” Pacific: “why is that tractor staring at us funny? Someone shoot it with a bazooka”
Ironically, it's like the longsword vs katana debate. The katana is not necessarily inferior, but the longsword was invented 300 years earlier and when the katana came up, Europeans didn't use the longsword anymore, because there were firearms everywhere.
Torys Account The katana dates back to the 1300s, guns weren't in mass production for another 200 years, and guns started in China, so the Japanese knew what they were before the Europeans did. And the katana is a derivation of the tachi, a sword that goes back to the 900s. The katana wasn't a mythical cutting sword that could bifurcate an armour clad knight, but the katana is by far the most versatile sword in the world. It is curved enough to be used on horseback and straight enough to be used as a thrusting weapon, it was long enough to be used in a field but short enough to be used indoors. They could cut while drawing and can be wielded with 1 or 2 hands. the Europeans had hundreds of specialized swords for each of these purposes. And the Japanese came into contact with hundreds of cultures with thousands of different swords and they stuck with the katana design for 1150 years.
yeah but the katana had next to no ability to deal with anything in heavier armor, like at least a longsword you can fucking beat someone to death with it, hold it by the blade and use it like a mace, or half sword it, but a katana is really only good for cutting
Japan: keeps all thier heaviest tanks on the mainland America: wait that’s nukable edit: oh hey this became a argument on if the nukes were needed. Damn that’s neat
Hardly easily. The type of .50 cal we were using in WWII could penetrate 25mm of armor only at less than 100 meters distance, so the chances of actually pulling that off without getting shot up by the tank or the tank's supporting infantry is quite low. On top of that, .50 cal can penetrate the armor of M18 Hellcats but you don't hear anyone giving Hellcats shit about it.
@@lsswappedcessna except the Bismarck had the British deploy a handful of ships to hunt it down, and after they finally find it the Germans manage to scuttle it after a couple of hours of being constantly shelled The Yamato got fucked over by American planes without a chance, the real German embarrasment is the Tirpitz
@@altaccaltacc7652 yeah, at least she went out with a bang. Something as boring as having the crap beat out of it until the crew got tired of having their asses kicked and scuttling it wouldn't have been fitting for the Yamato.
The attack on Pearl Harbor was a surprise military strike conducted by the Imperial Japanese Navy against the United States naval base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on the morning of December 7, 1941 (December 8 in Japan). The attack led to the United States' entry into World War II. The attack was intended as a preventive action in order to keep the U.S. Pacific Fleet from interfering with military actions the Empire of Japan was planning in Southeast Asia against overseas territories of the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and the United States. There were simultaneous Japanese attacks on the U.S.-held Philippines and on the British Empire in Malaya, Singapore, and Hong Kong. The attack came as a profound shock to the American people and led directly to the American entry into World War II in both the Pacific and European theaters. The following day, December 8, the United States declared war on Japan. Domestic support for non-interventionism, which had been strong, disappeared. Clandestine support of Britain (e.g., the Neutrality Patrol) was replaced by active alliance. Subsequent operations by the U.S. prompted Germany and Italy to declare war on the U.S. on December 11, which was reciprocated by the U.S. the same day.
America was prepared in Pearl Harbor. They moved their carriers away, they knew Japan is coming for them and they need reason to join into World War 2.
Some Rando Filipino 200 land based US Bombers (Including B-17) stationed all over the Pacific (and eventually China, had things gone to plan) would seem to indicate otherwise. America was going to war, they just didn't realize that they would not be the ones delivering the first strike. Joint Board Plan 355 signed by FDR months before Pearl Harbor, never forget.
Good video. Always important to remember is how late Japan arrived to the industrial era. The fact that they were able to design and build their own tanks in so short a time with their limited industry(fractured by branch infighting) is pretty impressive. Even assuming the Japanese designed, tested and put into production something on the M4 Sherman's level they would never have been able to produce sufficient numbers of it to match the US.
_'Always important to remember is how late Japan arrived to the industrial era.'_ Japan opened at the start of the second phase of the Industrial Revolution. For example, Japan didn't need to invent the steam engine (which took about 125 years of development to transform from something than could pump water out of a mine to be able to pull a heavy load over long distance on a grade reliably and at profitably, i.e. a steam locomotive). It was able to leapfrog into the Industrial Revolution. It purchased the day's state-of-the-art technological products, licensed or reversed-engineered them, began to innovate its own ideas, and entered the comparable phase. 'We make steam locomotives too.' Adding the triumphant and self-congratulatory 'And it didn't take us more than 100 years to do so' would be absurd though. Its rapid development was not unique in this regard. The Soviets did so. So have the Koreans and many others. Think about it. When you attended grammar school and learned to read and write, did you start with cuneiform, move to Greek, then Latin, and continue on with old English, middle English, and early modern English as the prerequisite to learn contemporary English? No. You leapfrogged all of that. You probably didn't see Beowulf and the Canterbury Tales in the classroom until you were age 11 or 12, and the purpose of that instruction was not 'Let's now learn old and middle English.' Japan was already an industrial power years before WWI, so seeing what battlefield innovations came from Europe, studying them, and then applying them to their own needs was not a stretch. And this wasn't the first time Japan did so. After the introduction of the matchlock by Portugal in the mid 16th century, Japan was soon manufacturing its own and making innovations. The Mongol invasions in the 13th century also taught Japan several things. Humans have a remarkable capacity to catch up. Quickly. We all don't need to start at year zero and plod along blazing a new trail.
True. Tanks capable of fighting the heavier western tanks were in fact developed, but as said at the end of the video, they were retained for homelands defense. Plus there certainly weren't that many of them
1:01 "and wanted to catch up in three major areas: tanks, planes-" Me: and ships! "-and radio communication" Oh yeah, I forgot the Japanese was among the best in the planet already
@Kyros Droztamyr yeah, not only that but most soviet tankers rarely had a decent amount of shells, and some tanks lacked gunsights due to the rush in production, i would not like the crew a t-34, but i can see how they helped in defeating nazi germany
I recently went to the Indiana military museum after seeing them here, and I must say, its truly breathtaking to see some of these vehicles up close, plus the rest of their displays are filled to the brim with facts and historical items from most every conflict in American history, I would 200% recommend going, it was well worth the 5 hour drive
Nice video I visited the museum back on Memorial Day weekend but sadly they did not have the type 97 kai on display yet. Even though outdated the type 97 kai is my favorite world war 2 tank and it was the only Japanese tank that had a fighting chance against the Sherman and T-34 that saw service.
What you mean? The Chi-Ha Kai 47mm is extremely good what it is! It was even praised by the Americans as a excellent Anti-Tank gun. Based on the American tests, the type 1 47mm gun with a special shell can penetrate armor of 114 mm thick at close range. This thing can easily punching through a Tiger 1 heads on. imgur.com/x9yJ9YI
Omar سلوم So did i? The only Type 97 Chi-Ha with 47mm gun is the Chi-Ha Kai. The first Chi-Ha carried 57 mm howitzer! The 47mm gun Type 1 as i explained is designed for anti-tank role!
"at close range". Very rarely would you get the chance to engage a Tiger 1 at close range in Europe or Russia. The advanced optics and the KwK 88 meant that the Germans could engage targets at up to 2 kilometers away. Short range engagements with Tiger 1's only ever happened towards the very end of the war in Europe when urban combat was the norm. And even then it was rare, as the majority of Tiger 1s were shipped to the Eastern front. You would never get to "close range" to begin with. Not to mention that the Tiger 1 used face hardened armour, rather than regular RHA. Even in a point blank scenario the 47 mil wouldn't stand a chance against a Tiger, at least from the front. You can't just look at penetration values and assume that it would go through, you have to take into account armor type, realistic engagement distances, angles, ammo type, muzzle velocities etc.
@@ncrveteranranger9126 Japanese officers order a retreat? And follow it up with a logical move? I'm sorry but I refuse to believe this fantasy. Make it believable Mr Ranger man.
@@ncrveteranranger9126 Oh cool. That makes sense.....well maybe. The Japanese still wouldnt have anything able to pen it and closing in on a tank is a bad time. Lots of guns doing a shoot at you.
Great Video! You are very right about Japanese tanks during the early 30's and the war, I believe they were the right tank for the wrong war. And The production of new tanks was not keeping up pace with the war for new tank designs. Anyway Keep making great Content I really enjoy it, whenever I watch these it makes my day! On Labor day weekend I am going to see a LST that saw combat in the D-Day Operation. It's too long of a drive to Indiana and back for the weekend and plus it came too late in my planning. What I'm basically saying I can't go.
Too many people are under the assumption that the later and stop-gap tanks would have changed anything. Even if Japan had an entire fleet of Panzer IVs or M4s it would not have changed much, and in most cases these vehicles were not suited for Japanese doctrine or the theater. Japanese tanks performed exceptionally well in all instances except battles with Russia. Reports from Manchukuo and the Wang Jingwei regime show this. Something to understand is that Japan did not intend for the war to continue as long as it did. "European" style tanks were not needed until a land invasion from Russia became more apparent. There was no intention to fight America in the way it had turned out. They had more reason to spend resources on the potent Japanese field guns from a defensive stand point than to spend resources designing and producing what would be niche tanks to Japan's theater. You can see this in reports for late vehicles such as the Ho-Ri's life cycle where the sloped design was cancelled early as it was too strenuous for Japanese production. Japanese tanks did not fail in their roles.
Very cool. Glad to see you and other history youtubers emphasizing that weapons design is a constant process with setbacks. Wars can start at any time, and militaries are just waiting around with static designs to deploy on the dates we memorize in school
One of my father's friends who passed away a few years ago was a WWII vet in the Pacific theater. He said one of the tactics the Japanese tanks would use would be to hide in huts in villages or farms (basically they would build a straw hut or house around the tank). Then when Americans would get close they would burst out of the hut and engage.
“What am I hearing?” “Hearing what?” “Like a… vrooming noise” “Vrooming noise? Get that shit outta here- oh wait… no, I hear it too” “The fuck is that?” *Japanese tank in house* “Flank and Spank, never fails”
Personally I think a lot of British tanks are quite underrated for the sole reason that, compared to the Soviets and Americans, there wasn't that many made.
Good tanks couldn't have stopped the United States from endlessly bombarding the islands. And even if they decided to fund tank development over naval development, the meme would just be "shitty ships". Say what you will, but Japan did their best.
@@Myreactionwhen_80085 Nah, I'm just about the most patriotic person you will EVER meet. Also, I feel that not many people are able to realize how much our country has accomplished in just a few hundred years. Not many people are patriotic enough these days and only focus on th hard times that this great nation has had.
@@trevorconnatser6161 No I know very well how much our nation has accomplished and I'm all for having a sense of patriotism but it gets to point to where it's just insulting. All being outwardly patriotic does is let people know YOU feel that way and further cement our already arrogant reputation.
It took me a second to realize it when hearing it, but you actually used the Medal of Honor: Rising Sun soundtrack in this, which I remember from when I was a kid and had some of the best music in any video game; BADASS move! Every time my wife (she's Manchurian) and I visit WWII battlefields together in China, that track you played "Singapore Sling" plays in my head.
Potential History thank you for this very informative and insightful video. you get a new subscriber. France faced the same problem. Leader in the tank design in the first times (the PT17 was French and defined the general configuration for all the panzers), France usage was sparse tanks to protect infantry, while german had panzer divisions with the aid of the slow but very precise dive bombers. No wonder why the second army was beaten by the first army in spring 1940.
Japanese tank development is indicative of Japanese military technology history: quick to adopt new technology but slow to adapt it once it's there. Their experience with firearms comes to mind where they quickly adopted matchlocks but barely innovated on them during the edo period for about two centuries
Well during the Edo period there was no need to improve weapons. It was actually better for the Shogun to have less guns in Japan as a whole, so noone had the firepower to overthrow him.
“Should they support the infantry, or be used as their own arm in a combined force?” The answer is obvious now...” Is it? I can’t help but feel like the best doctrine is entirely circumstantial. For example, fighting in flat desert vs hilly suburbs? Fighting to conquer vs liberate? Spearhead a bulge in enemy line, or drive the whole line back? It all depends on what you’re going for and working against, so there is no “best”.
I should say something that basically everyone found it useful or outright necessary to attach _some_ kind of armoured close support to their infantry, be it dedicated designs (eg. infantry tanks or assault guns) or just general-purpose line tanks seconded from their usual duties. One French general in the Great War quipped something to the effect that "there are two kinds of infantry; one has not gone into attack with tanks, and the other never wants to do so again without them" and that seems to have aged remarkably well. See also: IFVs and just putting halfway decent amount of gun and armour on basic bitch APCs.
@@broadbandislife Your point makes some common sense: would an infantryman prefer to have a bit of mobile cover that can shoot and has enough armor to help it survive for a while? Or no? Of course the answer is usually, "hell yes" but the challenge is gonna be loss rates....can I field a design that takes acceptable losses in that role and is feasible to keep supplied and mobile enough to keep up with the army?
@@NPatterson4vdma You mean economics and logistics, ie. "how many of these buggers can I actually afford to field and where do I usefully employ those I do?" Also given that the overwhelming majority of WW2 armies were still fundamentally transported by ye olde Heel-Toe Express and period tracked vehicles tended to run into serious breakdown problems if they travelled far under their own power the mobility angle tends to get somewhat excessively emphasized. Plus pretty much everybody built a crop of _fast_ tanks of some sort for the maneuver role anyway. The _actual_ problem with this kind of division-of-labour approach, which I'm pretty sure was in part influenced by industrial paradigms and the fact technological immaturity forced eg. the warplanes of the period to be rather task-specialized, was industrial-logistical - duplication of effort, more complex supply chains, diminished economies of scale and so on and so on. Which is why by the end of the war Everyone & Dog, Inc. was switching or had already switched over to "universal" all-purpose designs, made more feasible by the maturing of the technologies and hard-won practical experience of the kinds of solutions that worked. (Light and heavy tanks hung around for specialist tasks for a long time but that's not important here.)
@Apache Beard Sorry these are out of production at the moment. But we have the Leopard II as an special offer at the moment. You can switch the motor out in about 15 minutes (maybe a bit more).
Thanks for the video! It was really interesting. In the end, more than a misread, I think the problem stemmed from a cultural thing where the elders oppress the young, and usually innovation as well. Its kinda what's been happening all along, and still to this day. That's why it might be my country, but I don't really wanna live there
why should he?i am lithuanian who knows a bit of history and i know that Lithuanian history isnt that intresting comparade to history of some other things
You very briefly mentioned later tank designs meant for the defense of the home islands. While they were more capable than earlier models i've always been led to believe they were just as poorly equipped and as meme-y as the earlier designs since they would never have been able to compete with the Easy 8s and Pershings that would've been present in any invasion force. What would you say about their potential ability to fight any allied tanks of the time?
I felt as if you described why it is a meme as opposed to why it is not (which I expected) The Japanese calendar coinciding with their designations was my favorite fun fact
I once wrote an article for a military history magazine about the Japanese Army-Navy rivalry in WWII. Its roots go back hundreds of years to the Shotgun Era in which family clans literally fought each other. As Japan modernized, the actual fighting eventually stopped. However, entire clans joined either the Army or Navy en masse, bringing with them their ancient jealousies, grudges, and outright hatred for each other. This manifested itself during the war as a lack of mutual cooperation, often to the point of absurdity.
Wow, thanks for sharing. That is very interesting. Any hints so I can find and read that article? I've long noticed the exceptional IJA-IJN rivalry and how badly it crippled the Japanese war effort, but I didn't know the roots of the rivalry went that far back. And I certainly didn't know it was Japanese Hatfield-McCoy tier insanity.
Again, not memeish but a really well balanced review of Japanese tank design with an nice look into the political-industrial factors playing into it. Great job to condense such good information into an 8-minute-video!
I can't speak for the systems of the ships, but as far as im aware the bismarck would be very hard pressed to do damage to the yamato, whilst the yamato may end up over-penning the bismarck. (460mm yamato vs 380mm bismarck)
I just want this guy to put a complete end to the Yamato vs Iowa debate. It’s so stupid and pointless. Why? Because both of them proved useless in reality. The USN and IJN were battling it out with carrier raids and close-quarter destroyer furballs, there was no place for either ship (or battleships in general) in the war. Both battleships fired at enemy vessels literally once (and never at another capital ship), and in Iowa’s case it wasn’t in battle but during a TRAINING EXERCISE, with the target having to be deliberately spared from air attack. Before you say “the Iowa class was intended as escort for carriers”, they were designed before the USN realized the importance of carriers, and were supposed to be the fast arm of the battleline, for a battle that was never going to happen. In fact you can argue every modern battleship ever was a failure, as the reason for their existence, the Mahanian decisive battle, never happened in WWI or WWII. (For the record, IMHO it would be roughly even with a slight advantage to Iowa, but neither ship is going to be in good shape afterwards. That is, if the USN and IJN don’t just run over the battleships with torpedo bombers before they even get to shoot each other)
My old man took me to that museum, I got to ride around, if I remember correctly, in their Abram, but I suppose it may have been a Patton, cuz that's what my Dad drove in the war. I have a picture of me in the 50 cal nest from when I was 5 or so.
Great video, I like your point of view to put the stuff on the right prospective. I need such videos for our own hobby project's. Thank you for the video
Also there was a raw material shortage, prior to Pearl Harbor the us embargoed Japan halted the sale of oil and steel, so they had to choose what to use their limited resources on
Funnily enough homer charging the pile with the umbrella looked like how the Japanese used those lunge mines on a stick😂 really hoping that was the joke
Made a small mistake saying Japan invaded Manchuria in 1933 when the conflict began in 1931, But the Battle of Rehe did take place beginning in February of 1933 and that it the crux of the point. My Bad.
Special thanks to QAZ and Whatismoo for help with sources and footage.
Just another one, a BIG ONE !!!!! (Yes... I'm French 😂) IT'S NOT AND IT'S NEVER BEEN FT-17 !!!
Just FT ! Thanks ! 😁
Potential History damn from reviewing anime to making meme videos good start
How do you comment on a video that was uploaded 30 minutes ago, 13 hours ago?
Make Meme tank 3
My tank suggestion is
The TOG II
OMg that intro killed meee :D
Really small, thinly armored, under-gunned tanks are extremely effective against people who have.....no tanks...This is always ignored.
Sooooo, the Japanese armored divisions were useless still, seeing as everyone they were fighting in ww2, had tanks, and far better ones
@@YourAverageKriegsman The Chinese had tanks that were both small in number and over decade old. And they were the enemy the Japanese were fighting with the longest, so no they weren't better, and for much the of the Second Sino-Japanese war, China essentially had no tanks.
Let me elaborate
Smol Japanese tank = funny joke
Big allied/other axis tanks = not so small, but still funny in their own ways, im just sayin, the earliest tanks ever by any country, is like paper mache and cardboard on treads with a pellet gun turret and a dirt bike engine
Exactly, the Japanese tanks did awful against modern designs like the sherman, matilda and valentine, but against small minor nations that only have infantry or only small amounts of tanks, not such a stupid decision
@@YourAverageKriegsman The Chinese in Manchuria didn’t have tanks nor did the Chinese government or the government of the Philippines. Pretty much no one they were fighting at first had tanks besides the British, who were giving their tanks to the European theatre. There’s a lot of fighting in the 30’s that’s not technically WWII but for all intents in purposes it is.
Any tank is better than no tank. When the Japanese invaded Malaya in 1942 the British had no armour beside a handful of obsolete Lanchester armoured cars. Needless to say, the campaign was a walkover for the Japanese.
The British were also outnumbered and half a world away from their homeland. Any amount of armor they had would've been destroyed by bombers escorted by Zero's
Actually, the Brits had superior numbers in infantry, but they were poorly trained, but they still outnumbered Japan
@@paulfrancistorres7144 On top of that, even poorly trained infantry can do a decent job when fighting from defensive positions.
Despite literally being outnumbered everywhere else. Little naval support, little air support, little armored support, even AT guns weren’t that abundant, though, still they were common. Take into account the fact that they were , in many situations, fighting the best of the best, the Imperial Guard, they were boned from the start. Then add into the fact that Australia had thrown many of its forces into Africa, and Britain was the industrial center for its equipment, there was no way they could’ve stood up to the very local power of Japan.
@@Crosshair84 in old time, yes. In ww2 time, defensive structure without support is just inviting artillery and bombs
Italian tanks: t i n y
New Zealand: Bob Semple
Japan: Just increase our navy
Germany: b l i t z k r i e g
Britain: FiSh AnD ChIps
Soviet: T H I C C
US: Sherman spam
Finnish: Hippity hoppity your tonk is now my property
US: *T H I C C B O I*
America: Floatie-woatie lvt uwu
Potential History: What is it with the axis and going through the woods.
Some Schmuck: What is it with the allies and never considering the enemy would attempt going through the woods.
If I ever wage war, I'm either going to go through woods or setup defences around the woods.
It's really just quite unsporting of them. I mean we made these large and clearly defensible encampments for them to run headlong into. And here they are just walking around our immovable fortresses. That's just bloody not fair, if I say so myself, and I do!
Thank god there were no large forests between Libya and Alexandria, else Italy may actually have managed something in Africa.
@@KitsuneRogue Who do they bloody think they are? War is supposed to be about honor, chivalry, and discipline. There are rules to adhere to.
*_ardennes_*
Won't try to pronounce a very easy phonetic Japanese name. Pronounces a complex name for a Chinese highway.
to be honest i had no idea what he said, but still i commend him on the effort.
@Libertatem Veritas and certainly he failed 🤦
@Libertatem Veritasi dont think so
More polite to mispronounce a highway than a persons name, just shut up
@Charles Lee Ray A good bit of romanzations for Japanese are thankfully pronounced exactly as you would think given their spelling. But not all of them.
Japanese resource ministry: "We have some steel."
Imperial Japanese Navy: "It's free real estate."
Yamato and Musashi: *REEEEE!*
Gotta steal that steel
Ok that wasn’t even good I’ll leave now
Shinano: "You girls live longer than me?"
And their glorious navy is crushed at the end of the war xd
@@baskapat5239 So was the Army. And the Navy at least used modern tactics
Come for the dank memes
Stay because this guy goes into well over twice depth and detail than most serious history channels
And unlike those other historians, he has memes!
“Sir, the 17 pounder won’t fit!”
“Put it in sideways!”
“Sir, the radio won’t fit!”
“Cut a hole in the back and stick it out the back!”
“Sir, the engine isn’t strong enough!”
“Take five car engines and put them together!”
Yeah he’s the only History channel im subscribed to. Other ones I’ve watched are just too vanilla and barely graze the surface of the topic at hand.
Potatoe the Hun simple history is also ok
@@connorwilson2014
Yeah, sure thing dude
Historically informed meme videos is not something I though I'd be into. You have proven me wrong, love you channel!
Where’d your pfp come from?
Patrician taste
I have crippling depression
The Japanese Tank is so bad, if you make a video about it, people still argue about Sherman vs Panther
Panther is stronger but not beeter(my opinion
mobile pliot war wings so better gun and armor?
Nguyễn Hải Dương Your right but it will most likely won’t go one on one. It will either be Panther ambushes the Sherman for most of the time and in some battles, Sherman ambushes Panther. But you’re still right about Panther able to beat Shermans in one on one engagements
@Nguyễn Hải Dương Once the original problems of the panther were fixed this happened after kursk where many Panthers broke down before seeing combat the panther was no more unreliable then a t34 or sherman the problem was with the process of repairing which as anyone who knows anything about ww2 knows the germans were the worst when it came to military production and repair of broken vehicles the panther did not magiclly fucking break for no reason or because it was designed horrible it was a good tank with around the same reliability as any other medium tank of the time.
Looks like you started an argument about the Sherman and panther
I feel like Japanese tanks vs Sherman’s is like a middle school bully going into Highschool, he’s dealt with smaller kids (China) and he’s ready to show up his bigger classmates. But then he realizes that he’s picking on Seniors and gets the shit beat out of him.
Afaik Chi-ha kai with the 47mm using upgraded shells could destroy a Sherman with a frontal hit at "100 yards" or something (use meters ffs).
imgur.com/x9yJ9YI
Yes you alright! The Chi-Ha using Tokko Kou APHE shell can penetrate 114mm of armor at close range. Enough to even pen the Tiger 1 frontally.
Funny thing is that the little kid (China) somehow took steroids from the drug dealer (Russia) and he's almost as powerful as the bully.
But, as with M-4s vs. Panther and Tiger I tanks, the problem is getting "close enough" without "getting blown away.";)
M4s vs Panthers and Tigers is like a high schooler vs. College kids, Pz.V and Pz.VI vs Soviet late war heavies is like college kids vs grown ass adults
This is so sad
Can we speed up the production of the Ho-Ri?
it's actually a really good tank
Well the ho it is almost a failed project because of its heavy weight would get stuck in the sand and mud because the Ho-Ri has a 105mm gun as well as the armor protection would work against the tank in the islands the Japanese would be defending from the Americans
This is so sad
Can you make some -T-34's- *Sturmgeschütz III's?*
Ho-Ri it up
It's small
It's cute
It's iconic
It's stronk
It's fast
...and also easily taken out by Shermans. AMERICA.
I like the fact that they always focused resources to the Navy and in the end, the Navy was defeated by endless numbers flying bois
The thing is those flying bois wouldnt have stood a chance against their own anti-aircraft guns. American naval anti-aircraft fire was so dense and layered that it was basically a shield. This is why the japanese turned to Kamikaze tactics, because they were going to die attempting a bombing run anyway, may as well go all-in.
@Magne M tell that to the Brits
@@tradfave9474 And damn did it prove effective. _For a time, at least._
Honestly it made sense, they were an Island-Based Empire, so it was rather logic to favor the naval branch over the others.
@@MrDibara the Kamikazes indeed were effective, they just came too late in the war.
Japan: *Somehow becomes advanced in transport and robotics after this*
xXRedLineXx
Because *AMERICAN OCCUPATION!!!*
@@boyketer3585 *When Americans send more technology support to Japan than their own country, resulting in one having a great economy and infastructure, while their own crumbles.*
>Why the fuck not? Sounds like a *GREAT* idea!
@@redline1916 Because Japan is near China. And the Japanese communist were getting really powerful after the war.
*Japanese focused effort
xXRedLineXx I don’t know, our economy is doing quite well
Sherman: so this is what it feels like to be a tiger
Firefly and M4A376mm: i am tiger
@@TheStig_TG Both weren't that armored, now if you talking about the M4A3E2 with the 76mm Cannon well they were basically tigers or even better than a tiger
@@royalcinnamon yes i was thanks for clarifying
@@royalcinnamon
Not that armored but still better armored than most German tanks (except Tiger and Panthers of course)
@@TheStig_TG in that aspect, i guess Hellcats and M36s are Jagdtigers then.
I wanna see Italian tanks fight Japanese tanks
lee yi xian *almost* (as in there is only one Italian tank as of yet)
Anyone wanna play World of tanks with me ? :c
THEN MEN OF WAR ASSAULT SQUAD 2
Japan wins.
Why? Because when Italy changes sides, there will be no enemy.
Nobody plays japanese or italian in war thunder you dungus
Hago is the best tank
It's small
It's cute
It's iconic
It's stronk
It's fast
didnt know until today i wanted a hago gf
Isaiah Sherrill f u with u shity pun 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Racket Rider It’s not even that fast
you just described a renault ft17
Racket Rider Loli tank
Soldiers in Europe: *”Oh shit it’s a tank!!! Find cover!!!”*
Marines in the Pacific: *”hey look a tank, hand me that large rock, I’m gonna go bash its turret in...”*
Hahaha
Europe: “Taking fire from that CUTE little Panzer! Fucking adorable like a puppy, KILL IT!”
Pacific: “why is that tractor staring at us funny? Someone shoot it with a bazooka”
@@looinrims Ah, the glory that is CoH2 voice lines. Alternatively: "Put a fucking 8cm rocket up their ass!"
The Looinrims yeah i bet a 75 mm potato launcher could pen a tiger panther or panzer iv they had to flank some pz ivs
How can you read this Theres no picture bigfoot can you repeat that in English
Gotta love the Simpsons meme at the start!
No the accidental (maybe) rhyme was better
I did love it but if the umbrella had popped open with a modern Japanese flag before the "Yeah, he's done" it would have been even better.
Homer even did a Banzai charge at the end! :D
Real_Rex yep
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2:01 Gotta say, "Tommy O'Hara" doesn't sound very Japanese.
Murican immigrant
@@panzerkampfwagenvausf.g9469 irish-japanese man called tommy o'hara
Tomio Hara
@@panzerkampfwagenvausf.g9469 *A wave of T-34/85s swarm the Panther*
Lmao thats a good one
I have a soft spot for Japanese tanks because I love interwar tanks and their various design philosophies.
Calvin_Coolage agreed
Calvin_Coolage Cuz you’re a weeb, quit making excuses.
@@z54964380 why the fuck do people have a need to call someone a weeb all the time just because they like something about Japan?
Their philosophy was blame the tank designer for Tojo's incompetence at using them.
The 93 is trying so hard with all those turrets it’s cute I call it the fat princess in wot
Literally the only channel I look forward to anymore
Preach it i fucking love these videos
That and his outro music is a fucking banger.
Ironically, it's like the longsword vs katana debate.
The katana is not necessarily inferior, but the longsword was invented 300 years earlier and when the katana came up, Europeans didn't use the longsword anymore, because there were firearms everywhere.
Torys Account
The katana dates back to the 1300s, guns weren't in mass production for another 200 years, and guns started in China, so the Japanese knew what they were before the Europeans did. And the katana is a derivation of the tachi, a sword that goes back to the 900s. The katana wasn't a mythical cutting sword that could bifurcate an armour clad knight, but the katana is by far the most versatile sword in the world. It is curved enough to be used on horseback and straight enough to be used as a thrusting weapon, it was long enough to be used in a field but short enough to be used indoors. They could cut while drawing and can be wielded with 1 or 2 hands. the Europeans had hundreds of specialized swords for each of these purposes. And the Japanese came into contact with hundreds of cultures with thousands of different swords and they stuck with the katana design for 1150 years.
@Skelotor Two put your shit in 1 post ffs.
@Skelotor Two I mean it's not, it's actually harder to respond to (especially on mobile), but whatever floats your boat.
yeah but the katana had next to no ability to deal with anything in heavier armor, like at least a longsword you can fucking beat someone to death with it, hold it by the blade and use it like a mace, or half sword it, but a katana is really only good for cutting
Siegfried Gottz **pommel time**
Japan: keeps all thier heaviest tanks on the mainland
America: wait that’s nukable
edit: oh hey this became a argument on if the nukes were needed. Damn
that’s neat
North Korea: hold my bombs
Yeah thats why the US bombed two mostly by civilians populated cities :/
But yeah haha funny
@@Xzellent Their civilians made most of the weapon parts in their homes before sending them to factories, so that makes them military targets.
@@Xzellent I didn't realise there was such thing as military populated cities
"Proper" anti-tank guns meaning anything bigger than 12.7mm
Andrew Michaelson so 50 cal was piercing this thing?
Phil Mak oh easily
Hardly easily. The type of .50 cal we were using in WWII could penetrate 25mm of armor only at less than 100 meters distance, so the chances of actually pulling that off without getting shot up by the tank or the tank's supporting infantry is quite low. On top of that, .50 cal can penetrate the armor of M18 Hellcats but you don't hear anyone giving Hellcats shit about it.
@@Seraphil1 Don't think the Hellcat was facing very many 50 Cal. MGs...
@@Seraphil1 because they could actually shoot back
America : Starts counter attacking
Japan : where my HOs at
Ho=artillery
....seems about right,ights ho's,ATTACK!
*there's a note where the Ho tanks should be*
"Emperor said it's our turn with the steel.
Fuck you,
The Imperial Japanese Navy."
Hey where’s Kenny
*burning wreckage*
Oh my god the bastards
Rest of the world -No Hoes, Only Bros
Japan during WW2- I need them Hos, enough with bros
**IJN getting production priority**
Yamato and Musashi: **sinks**
The Yamato went down as embarrassingly easy as the Bismarck. Possibly even more so.
@@lsswappedcessna except the Bismarck had the British deploy a handful of ships to hunt it down, and after they finally find it the Germans manage to scuttle it after a couple of hours of being constantly shelled
The Yamato got fucked over by American planes without a chance, the real German embarrasment is the Tirpitz
@@lsswappedcessna Yamato literally exploded into peaces while Bismarck sunk because of holes
@@altaccaltacc7652 yeah, at least she went out with a bang. Something as boring as having the crap beat out of it until the crew got tired of having their asses kicked and scuttling it wouldn't have been fitting for the Yamato.
Can you do artillery only?
R3d Ro0k 37 i see that your a man of a culture as well
It's a bad idea if the enemy infantry can run up to them, or the enemy have trucks.
So meta
ARTILJERIJA BOSANAC SAM BEKRIJA
I don't think he's ever played hoi 4, take your dead meme and leave please
Edit: WE SHOULD BUY HIM HOI4 SO HE CAN DO ARTILLERY ONLY
I was as unprepared for this upload as was America in Pearl Harbor.
Some Rando Filipino ohhh another Filipino
The attack on Pearl Harbor was a surprise military strike conducted by the Imperial Japanese Navy against the United States naval base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on the morning of December 7, 1941 (December 8 in Japan). The attack led to the United States' entry into World War II. The attack was intended as a preventive action in order to keep the U.S. Pacific Fleet from interfering with military actions the Empire of Japan was planning in Southeast Asia against overseas territories of the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and the United States. There were simultaneous Japanese attacks on the U.S.-held Philippines and on the British Empire in Malaya, Singapore, and Hong Kong. The attack came as a profound shock to the American people and led directly to the American entry into World War II in both the Pacific and European theaters. The following day, December 8, the United States declared war on Japan. Domestic support for non-interventionism, which had been strong, disappeared. Clandestine support of Britain (e.g., the Neutrality Patrol) was replaced by active alliance. Subsequent operations by the U.S. prompted Germany and Italy to declare war on the U.S. on December 11, which was reciprocated by the U.S. the same day.
Pearl Harbor was a inside job *FDR DID 12/7*
America was prepared in Pearl Harbor. They moved their carriers away, they knew Japan is coming for them and they need reason to join into World War 2.
Some Rando Filipino 200 land based US Bombers (Including B-17) stationed all over the Pacific (and eventually China, had things gone to plan) would seem to indicate otherwise. America was going to war, they just didn't realize that they would not be the ones delivering the first strike.
Joint Board Plan 355 signed by FDR months before Pearl Harbor, never forget.
Japan may have lost the tank war...
But the Giant Transforming Robot war has yet to begin...!! 👊🇯🇵
I'd prefer metal gear if you ask me.
You want a war is that what you want asshole
What a prediction for 2020
They already build Gundam and can move
@@askamikaze3936 Metal Gear? It can't be...
Thanks, Australia for the random Japanese footage, god knows why you have it!
we did but it seems really weird to have this footage of nothing
Australia was worried AF about Japan invading, so it might have been gathered back in the day for sizing up the enemy
@@blahblahblahblah2837 the Brisbane line.
Good video. Always important to remember is how late Japan arrived to the industrial era. The fact that they were able to design and build their own tanks in so short a time with their limited industry(fractured by branch infighting) is pretty impressive. Even assuming the Japanese designed, tested and put into production something on the M4 Sherman's level they would never have been able to produce sufficient numbers of it to match the US.
Well said
_'Always important to remember is how late Japan arrived to the industrial era.'_ Japan opened at the start of the second phase of the Industrial Revolution. For example, Japan didn't need to invent the steam engine (which took about 125 years of development to transform from something than could pump water out of a mine to be able to pull a heavy load over long distance on a grade reliably and at profitably, i.e. a steam locomotive). It was able to leapfrog into the Industrial Revolution. It purchased the day's state-of-the-art technological products, licensed or reversed-engineered them, began to innovate its own ideas, and entered the comparable phase. 'We make steam locomotives too.' Adding the triumphant and self-congratulatory 'And it didn't take us more than 100 years to do so' would be absurd though. Its rapid development was not unique in this regard. The Soviets did so. So have the Koreans and many others.
Think about it. When you attended grammar school and learned to read and write, did you start with cuneiform, move to Greek, then Latin, and continue on with old English, middle English, and early modern English as the prerequisite to learn contemporary English? No. You leapfrogged all of that. You probably didn't see Beowulf and the Canterbury Tales in the classroom until you were age 11 or 12, and the purpose of that instruction was not 'Let's now learn old and middle English.'
Japan was already an industrial power years before WWI, so seeing what battlefield innovations came from Europe, studying them, and then applying them to their own needs was not a stretch. And this wasn't the first time Japan did so. After the introduction of the matchlock by Portugal in the mid 16th century, Japan was soon manufacturing its own and making innovations. The Mongol invasions in the 13th century also taught Japan several things.
Humans have a remarkable capacity to catch up. Quickly. We all don't need to start at year zero and plod along blazing a new trail.
True. Tanks capable of fighting the heavier western tanks were in fact developed, but as said at the end of the video, they were retained for homelands defense. Plus there certainly weren't that many of them
1:01 "and wanted to catch up in three major areas: tanks, planes-"
Me: and ships!
"-and radio communication"
Oh yeah, I forgot the Japanese was among the best in the planet already
*_laughs in Hellcat_*
@Victor Tran the p47's engine isn't fat it's. T h i c c
@Victor Tran I said the wrong plane
NothingXemnas you make no sense
I heard there is a new tank being developed and its called a
*"Fish tank"*
I think you Mean the Anko Special.
You mean, wasser-panzer?
When your navies lit af but your tanks look like your neighbours lawn mower
Soviets: when your tanks look cool af but your navy are a bunch of row boats
And Japan's economy was smaller too
@@elykeom1 and it made sense for them to use most of the resources on the navy, since they were a island nation and a naval power
@Kyros Droztamyr please explain
@Kyros Droztamyr yeah, not only that but most soviet tankers rarely had a decent amount of shells, and some tanks lacked gunsights due to the rush in production, i would not like the crew a t-34, but i can see how they helped in defeating nazi germany
I recently went to the Indiana military museum after seeing them here, and I must say, its truly breathtaking to see some of these vehicles up close, plus the rest of their displays are filled to the brim with facts and historical items from most every conflict in American history, I would 200% recommend going, it was well worth the 5 hour drive
Did somebody say artillery only
go away muso
No
Prussian Eagle yeah he came down to Milan and filmed me and now I’m here
Toaster no
Smerlin yes
Chi-haha
Chi-no no no
Chi-tos
Chi-rip
Bro.....not funny XD
Chi-number one
@@AsianSaIad R.I.P Stefan Karl
Chi chi
@@breizhrudie4757
More like chi-nope
Italy: I have the worst tanks of the whole war.
Japan: hold my sake
Italian tanks are arguably worse, but since they mostly surrender before fighting hard...
You don't see them in action often.
@Vlad Melis en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_campaign_(World_War_II)
look for yourself, after September 26, 1943.
@@LibeliumDragonfly ask that to the 132nd armored division ariete
@@LibeliumDragonfly if they see an Italian tank from the ariete. They lose morale and always surrender to the Italians.Well Guess what happened
@@LibeliumDragonfly fake news believer
Nice video I visited the museum back on Memorial Day weekend but sadly they did not have the type 97 kai on display yet. Even though outdated the type 97 kai is my favorite world war 2 tank and it was the only Japanese tank that had a fighting chance against the Sherman and T-34 that saw service.
with that short 57 mil no way, the chi-to however, that thing was a beast!
What you mean? The Chi-Ha Kai 47mm is extremely good what it is! It was even praised by the Americans as a excellent Anti-Tank gun. Based on the American tests, the type 1 47mm gun with a special shell can penetrate armor of 114 mm thick at close range. This thing can easily punching through a Tiger 1 heads on.
imgur.com/x9yJ9YI
@@i_nameless_i-jgsdf no, I'm talking about the type 97
Omar سلوم
So did i? The only Type 97 Chi-Ha with 47mm gun is the Chi-Ha Kai. The first Chi-Ha carried 57 mm howitzer!
The 47mm gun Type 1 as i explained is designed for anti-tank role!
"at close range". Very rarely would you get the chance to engage a Tiger 1 at close range in Europe or Russia. The advanced optics and the KwK 88 meant that the Germans could engage targets at up to 2 kilometers away. Short range engagements with Tiger 1's only ever happened towards the very end of the war in Europe when urban combat was the norm. And even then it was rare, as the majority of Tiger 1s were shipped to the Eastern front. You would never get to "close range" to begin with. Not to mention that the Tiger 1 used face hardened armour, rather than regular RHA. Even in a point blank scenario the 47 mil wouldn't stand a chance against a Tiger, at least from the front. You can't just look at penetration values and assume that it would go through, you have to take into account armor type, realistic engagement distances, angles, ammo type, muzzle velocities etc.
Chi-OhNo here comes a matilda
*matilda gets a granade thrown right into its tracks* OH NO KING GEORGE THE 3RD SAVE ME
@@ncrveteranranger9126 Japanese officers order a retreat? And follow it up with a logical move? I'm sorry but I refuse to believe this fantasy. Make it believable Mr Ranger man.
@@bigrabii9470 then it shall be done *japanese soldiers overrun the matilda*
@@ncrveteranranger9126 Oh cool. That makes sense.....well maybe. The Japanese still wouldnt have anything able to pen it and closing in on a tank is a bad time. Lots of guns doing a shoot at you.
@@bigrabii9470 they could have thrown more grenades as well, and the matilda is gonna run out of supplies sooner or later
The opening meme was nothing short of a memetic masterpiece
Great Video! You are very right about Japanese tanks during the early 30's and the war, I believe they were the right tank for the wrong war. And The production of new tanks was not keeping up pace with the war for new tank designs. Anyway Keep making great Content I really enjoy it, whenever I watch these it makes my day!
On Labor day weekend I am going to see a LST that saw combat in the D-Day Operation. It's too long of a drive to Indiana and back for the weekend and plus it came too late in my planning. What I'm basically saying I can't go.
Japanese: Quality over quantity.
Also Japanese: Yeahs lets just spam kamikaze and banzai attacks using shit equipment.
TBH, that came later in the war when they started throwing kitchen sinks (and other house appliances) in vain attempt to keep Allies at bay.
@@hemidas ever seen the national defense rifles? Oh boy.
@A Bandit they don't have sights
A Bandit I’m sorry, fucking look at them
@Soren G you thought loool
Me: I want KING TIGERRR
Mom: But we have it at home
king tiger at home: 6:57
Too many people are under the assumption that the later and stop-gap tanks would have changed anything. Even if Japan had an entire fleet of Panzer IVs or M4s it would not have changed much, and in most cases these vehicles were not suited for Japanese doctrine or the theater. Japanese tanks performed exceptionally well in all instances except battles with Russia. Reports from Manchukuo and the Wang Jingwei regime show this. Something to understand is that Japan did not intend for the war to continue as long as it did. "European" style tanks were not needed until a land invasion from Russia became more apparent. There was no intention to fight America in the way it had turned out. They had more reason to spend resources on the potent Japanese field guns from a defensive stand point than to spend resources designing and producing what would be niche tanks to Japan's theater. You can see this in reports for late vehicles such as the Ho-Ri's life cycle where the sloped design was cancelled early as it was too strenuous for Japanese production. Japanese tanks did not fail in their roles.
sir, this is the youtube comments section. your facts and sentence structure have no place here.
Really like your video style! Here’s hoping you get younger people interested in 20th century military history! Keep up the good work!
Johnny: What is it with the axis and going through forests?
Me: The axis countries have a fetish for forests
Japan wasn't a axis country.
Remember when Italian soldier fight in the jungle?
Me neither.
@@MouldMadeMind japan was an axis country
@@정혜원-q8g no Japan had only the same enemy as the axis.
@@MouldMadeMind Japan is technically Axis, and that's what mostly matters in the context of the post.
Very cool. Glad to see you and other history youtubers emphasizing that weapons design is a constant process with setbacks. Wars can start at any time, and militaries are just waiting around with static designs to deploy on the dates we memorize in school
One of my father's friends who passed away a few years ago was a WWII vet in the Pacific theater. He said one of the tactics the Japanese tanks would use would be to hide in huts in villages or farms (basically they would build a straw hut or house around the tank). Then when Americans would get close they would burst out of the hut and engage.
That’s really awesome tbh (rather really creative)
“What am I hearing?”
“Hearing what?”
“Like a… vrooming noise”
“Vrooming noise? Get that shit outta here- oh wait… no, I hear it too”
“The fuck is that?”
*Japanese tank in house*
“Flank and Spank, never fails”
C'mon, the Churchill is a tank worthy of a video
commissarmanul Agreed, The Churchill is underrated and under-recognised in my opinion.
@@loganjonesTTMS
Every time I look at it (especially the earlier variant) I think "Brits, you know the great war ended?"
“It looks like it’s from the last war, you can’t miss it, Gunner”
Brandon Fu I know a Squire reference when I see one! Great work my good sir!
Personally I think a lot of British tanks are quite underrated for the sole reason that, compared to the Soviets and Americans, there wasn't that many made.
Good tanks couldn't have stopped the United States from endlessly bombarding the islands.
And even if they decided to fund tank development over naval development, the meme would just be "shitty ships".
Say what you will, but Japan did their best.
Nah, they are extremely over confident and picked on the wrong country...AMERICA!!!
@@trevorconnatser6161 This kind of comment makes us look arrogant. Could you tone it down? We don't have to smere our victory in everyone's faces
@@Myreactionwhen_80085 Nah, I'm just about the most patriotic person you will EVER meet. Also, I feel that not many people are able to realize how much our country has accomplished in just a few hundred years. Not many people are patriotic enough these days and only focus on th hard times that this great nation has had.
@@trevorconnatser6161 No I know very well how much our nation has accomplished and I'm all for having a sense of patriotism but it gets to point to where it's just insulting. All being outwardly patriotic does is let people know YOU feel that way and further cement our already arrogant reputation.
@@Myreactionwhen_80085 Glad I could help
It took me a second to realize it when hearing it, but you actually used the Medal of Honor: Rising Sun soundtrack in this, which I remember from when I was a kid and had some of the best music in any video game; BADASS move! Every time my wife (she's Manchurian) and I visit WWII battlefields together in China, that track you played "Singapore Sling" plays in my head.
DO ARTILLERY ONLY
Potential History thank you for this very informative and insightful video. you get a new subscriber. France faced the same problem. Leader in the tank design in the first times (the PT17 was French and defined the general configuration for all the panzers), France usage was sparse tanks to protect infantry, while german had panzer divisions with the aid of the slow but very precise dive bombers. No wonder why the second army was beaten by the first army in spring 1940.
Japanese tank development is indicative of Japanese military technology history: quick to adopt new technology but slow to adapt it once it's there. Their experience with firearms comes to mind where they quickly adopted matchlocks but barely innovated on them during the edo period for about two centuries
Well during the Edo period there was no need to improve weapons. It was actually better for the Shogun to have less guns in Japan as a whole, so noone had the firepower to overthrow him.
*A R T I L L E R Y O N L Y*
350k anti-tank only
Lexter Nagasangan anti air only
There is no gaming channel, please stop
Edit: NVM A R T Y O N L Y
Am I allowed to bring a Stug III?
Technically it was designed as "close" range infantry support artillery.
B O B S E M P L E O N L Y
Memes + history = underated channel
*branch of ranks from certain country*
Potential History: tHe AuStRaLiA tAnK mEmE
As always!! Great video lol
Lol lol lol lol lol lol
Wait?
“Should they support the infantry, or be used as their own arm in a combined force?” The answer is obvious now...”
Is it? I can’t help but feel like the best doctrine is entirely circumstantial. For example, fighting in flat desert vs hilly suburbs? Fighting to conquer vs liberate? Spearhead a bulge in enemy line, or drive the whole line back? It all depends on what you’re going for and working against, so there is no “best”.
I should say something that basically everyone found it useful or outright necessary to attach _some_ kind of armoured close support to their infantry, be it dedicated designs (eg. infantry tanks or assault guns) or just general-purpose line tanks seconded from their usual duties. One French general in the Great War quipped something to the effect that "there are two kinds of infantry; one has not gone into attack with tanks, and the other never wants to do so again without them" and that seems to have aged remarkably well.
See also: IFVs and just putting halfway decent amount of gun and armour on basic bitch APCs.
@@broadbandislife Your point makes some common sense: would an infantryman prefer to have a bit of mobile cover that can shoot and has enough armor to help it survive for a while? Or no? Of course the answer is usually, "hell yes" but the challenge is gonna be loss rates....can I field a design that takes acceptable losses in that role and is feasible to keep supplied and mobile enough to keep up with the army?
@@NPatterson4vdma You mean economics and logistics, ie. "how many of these buggers can I actually afford to field and where do I usefully employ those I do?"
Also given that the overwhelming majority of WW2 armies were still fundamentally transported by ye olde Heel-Toe Express and period tracked vehicles tended to run into serious breakdown problems if they travelled far under their own power the mobility angle tends to get somewhat excessively emphasized. Plus pretty much everybody built a crop of _fast_ tanks of some sort for the maneuver role anyway.
The _actual_ problem with this kind of division-of-labour approach, which I'm pretty sure was in part influenced by industrial paradigms and the fact technological immaturity forced eg. the warplanes of the period to be rather task-specialized, was industrial-logistical - duplication of effort, more complex supply chains, diminished economies of scale and so on and so on.
Which is why by the end of the war Everyone & Dog, Inc. was switching or had already switched over to "universal" all-purpose designs, made more feasible by the maturing of the technologies and hard-won practical experience of the kinds of solutions that worked. (Light and heavy tanks hung around for specialist tasks for a long time but that's not important here.)
Ha-Go is for headpatting, not lewding.
Go comit restore family honor
RAVIOLI RAVIOLI PLEASE DON'T LEWD THE TANK LOLI.
Te-Ke is even cuter.
Seppuku is always an Option
A true men of culture
Ur vid saved my day .-. and hello from Germany
Auf wiedersehen :)
Ja meinen auch :D schade das es in deutschland nicht solche museen gibt bis auf stahl auf der heide sad
But since what "auf wiedersehen" actually means is "till I see you again", to you sir, I say... nevermind actually.
Auf wiedersehen!
Can you get me a -Tiger I- *Sturmgeschütz III?*
Wo ist das? Und ist das recht gut, oder gibt es da nur 5 komische Renault Panzer und sonst nix?
@Apache Beard Sorry these are out of production at the moment. But we have the Leopard II as an special offer at the moment. You can switch the motor out in about 15 minutes (maybe a bit more).
Thanks for the video! It was really interesting. In the end, more than a misread, I think the problem stemmed from a cultural thing where the elders oppress the young, and usually innovation as well. Its kinda what's been happening all along, and still to this day. That's why it might be my country, but I don't really wanna live there
If real life was an anime, Experimental Tank #1 would've been commanded solo by an ace and would've been feared among US troops.
*AMOG US* sUs
No matter what I still would rather be in a Japanese tank than those Italian metal coffins
Nick Mettler and a New Zealand tank
And the Japanese at least had a good reason to not bother with tanks much (naval warh
What you mean the ones that had switch sides in them or the Frist reverse gear , oh sorry that was frogs
I would rather be in a endless wave of t34 tanks in ww2
@4shacks1house Based on doesn't mean they were as good, and you do know the Vickers 7 ton design was very outdated by this point, da?
“What is it with the Axis going through forests,” I’m dead.
How do you call a burnt down japanese tank?
A spicy meme
*NOT HONORABU*
The_Mad_Bear 1096
A tank?
Rice Krispie
@@m.kozlov8461 yiss
A design working as intended
I love your meme/historical format. Keep up the great job! 👍🏻
日本が侵攻した地域には重戦車を降ろせるようなクレーンはありませんでした。
従って船舶の補助クレーンの限界である重量16tを超える戦車は、作っても降ろせません。
(この動画のサムネイルは帝国陸軍中将の原乙未生ですが、彼の回顧録(1982年)の82ページにそう書かれています)
love the vids and hello from Lithuania
hi
Is Lithuania a country?
You should make a video on the history of Lithuania.
why should he?i am lithuanian who knows a bit of history and i know that Lithuanian history isnt that intresting comparade to history of some other things
@@karolistamulionis713
Latvia?
more history than public school ever gave me
then you should've payed attention in class
@@MeatGoblin88 should be "paid attention" mr. scholar
@@warcrhymes251 baited. you pass the test ;)
They were comparable to the Italian tanks
And French tanks.
@@swann3482 remember who you're talking to, he's a german commander.
Not really, the Japanese had better guns and shells
Were they bad tho? Italian tank was just not adapted to the use the german made them use
@@popopduck877 no the french emphasised on speed and mobility too bad the germans were better
B E N Z A I !!!
You very briefly mentioned later tank designs meant for the defense of the home islands. While they were more capable than earlier models i've always been led to believe they were just as poorly equipped and as meme-y as the earlier designs since they would never have been able to compete with the Easy 8s and Pershings that would've been present in any invasion force. What would you say about their potential ability to fight any allied tanks of the time?
I felt as if you described why it is a meme as opposed to why it is not (which I expected)
The Japanese calendar coinciding with their designations was my favorite fun fact
DO ARTİLLERY ONLY
ever heard of dootha
dootha anti tank only challenge
Anti air only
*A R T I L L E R Y O N L Y*
only hoi4 niqqas will understand
Says can’t pronounce name,
Then he says them properly,
STILL WE LIKE HIS VIDS!
I once wrote an article for a military history magazine about the Japanese Army-Navy rivalry in WWII. Its roots go back hundreds of years to the Shotgun Era in which family clans literally fought each other. As Japan modernized, the actual fighting eventually stopped. However, entire clans joined either the Army or Navy en masse, bringing with them their ancient jealousies, grudges, and outright hatred for each other. This manifested itself during the war as a lack of mutual cooperation, often to the point of absurdity.
Wow, thanks for sharing. That is very interesting. Any hints so I can find and read that article? I've long noticed the exceptional IJA-IJN rivalry and how badly it crippled the Japanese war effort, but I didn't know the roots of the rivalry went that far back. And I certainly didn't know it was Japanese Hatfield-McCoy tier insanity.
im a man of simple needs, i see your videos i watch and like, i see gup video i like and watch it 3 times
just a simple man
Do you enjoy... Simple History?
irarelyupload we may never know his age. We just can't assume
Actually the Japanese tanks looks so weird because they needed it to be light enough for island hopping.
The Sherman also island hopped so...
What makes them look weird anyway?
That was just an afterthought.
@@liamcole1769 the sherman came from a way bigger and more resourcefull country tho
ncr veteran ranger
*FACT*
Again, not memeish but a really well balanced review of Japanese tank design with an nice look into the political-industrial factors playing into it.
Great job to condense such good information into an 8-minute-video!
Meme guns when?
Ross Rifle Mk III ?
Ron not the third one the first one was way worse
Sten gun: it may work, but WTF is that
The mg-42, the gustav and dora cannon and some other bois
@@ignacejespers8201 may work lmao, it jammed a lot, but it did its purpose i guess
Why haven't you done the Bob semple tank? It's by far the best tank produced in history!
Took my dad to go see the military museum in Vincennes, he had a blast! Thanks for the recommendation, we had a great weekend
Eastern front: Tank charge
Japan in Pacific War: Banzai charge after tanks were destroyed at the beginning of the fight
"What is it with the Axis and going through forests" - Potential History, 25th of August 2018
Lebensraum is actually in forests.
Bro. U Nailed it. Great info , Facts , kinda quick and easy to listen to. Thanks from Sunny Fla !
Hearing about all the "Type X" tanks reminds me of the Type 61 from the Universal Century.
Can you please make a video about the yamato battleship?
I can't speak for the systems of the ships, but as far as im aware the bismarck would be very hard pressed to do damage to the yamato, whilst the yamato may end up over-penning the bismarck. (460mm yamato vs 380mm bismarck)
It's shells can go under the Bismarck and hit them with a under the keel detonation
I just want this guy to put a complete end to the Yamato vs Iowa debate. It’s so stupid and pointless.
Why? Because both of them proved useless in reality. The USN and IJN were battling it out with carrier raids and close-quarter destroyer furballs, there was no place for either ship (or battleships in general) in the war. Both battleships fired at enemy vessels literally once (and never at another capital ship), and in Iowa’s case it wasn’t in battle but during a TRAINING EXERCISE, with the target having to be deliberately spared from air attack.
Before you say “the Iowa class was intended as escort for carriers”, they were designed before the USN realized the importance of carriers, and were supposed to be the fast arm of the battleline, for a battle that was never going to happen. In fact you can argue every modern battleship ever was a failure, as the reason for their existence, the Mahanian decisive battle, never happened in WWI or WWII.
(For the record, IMHO it would be roughly even with a slight advantage to Iowa, but neither ship is going to be in good shape afterwards. That is, if the USN and IJN don’t just run over the battleships with torpedo bombers before they even get to shoot each other)
@Windex
Considering one ship used obsolete incremental armour while the other has all-or-nothing armour.....
My old man took me to that museum, I got to ride around, if I remember correctly, in their Abram, but I suppose it may have been a Patton, cuz that's what my Dad drove in the war. I have a picture of me in the 50 cal nest from when I was 5 or so.
When i heard him say “Tomio Hara” I thought what’s an Irish bloke doing helping Japan get tanks?
Legendary japanese war hero, Tommy O'hara.
Great video, I like your point of view to put the stuff on the right prospective. I need such videos for our own hobby project's. Thank you for the video
Wow, this was a surprisingly good video. Lots of information packed into those 8 minutes. Nice work
Meanwhile weaboos
Reeeeeeeeeee but my type 5 heavy
So true though, im guessing that you play world of tanks
Type 5 what?xD
They're probably the same people who thought the Maus was a viable design.
@@SallinKari OmegaLUL
SteamedBunGaming *wryyyyyy
Kinda wished you'd mentioned the Te-Ke and the Ka-mi tanks.
Also there was a raw material shortage, prior to Pearl Harbor the us embargoed Japan halted the sale of oil and steel, so they had to choose what to use their limited resources on
Funnily enough homer charging the pile with the umbrella looked like how the Japanese used those lunge mines on a stick😂 really hoping that was the joke
Ho ro?
Hello?
Coincidence? I.Think.Not
6:06 Yuki no shingun! ,I truly love this song,even though it's about dying in snow