Checking in in 2022 to say this worked great! Only needed 1 big drop of the stuff and it's dropping perfectly now. Thanks for the video and the product rec!
This problem occured in my AT-LP 150xp quite soon after purchasing it, so it's 3 months ago i decided to solve it myself, so i bought the 500.000 cst damping gel and applied couple drops on the brass lever bushing. It was getting smooth imediately but after 3 months is even better. Thanks for advice, well done! 👍
I've had the newer AT-LP120XUSB for about 5 months now, &, unfortunately, the same problem still exists. It seems like there is a little hitch when using the cue lever, & the tonearm just DROPS hard. Don't understand why Audio Technica hasn't resolved this issue. SO happy with the turntable other-wise, the sound quality is awesome......anyway, I just move the cue lever very slowly & then it is ok.....
@@Dufrense1978 yeah I’ve had my LPX120USB less than a year and same thing, drops like a lead weight. Got some fluid on order and will be carrying this maintenance once it arrives. Glad it’s an easy fix!!
Hey man! Thank you so much for putting this video together. Kind of an uncommon personal tech job so I was extremely pleased to see something so clear and simple to follow to help me get the job done. Cheers!
I concur, I just googled AT-LP120 needle drop fix and your video comes up first. Thanks for going to the effort to find out the fix and create a video, im going to try this soon looks very simple indeed !
Thank you so much!!!! Mine stopped working 2 years after purchase!! I've been hand dropping (thankfully i have steady hands) but my wife and friends do not!!!! Going to order this dampening fluid and give it a try!!!
Thanks for the video. I just ordered my fluid and will follow your lead. I bought my TT in 2020 and I know the arm has been dropping hard for over a year (though I just hand drop it now).
This is official from Audio-Technica service center: "Sorry to hear you are experiencing this issue. Occasionally we do have instances where the silicon dampening fluid needs to be replenished in order for the lift / lower mechanism to function correctly. In order to do so, ensure the stylus guard is fitted then move the tonearm towards the centre spindle, or remove the headshell and the tonearm will spring upwards (due to the counter weight being on there), which will also take it out of the way. This process is quite easy and requires no tools. Whilst the lever is in the raised position apply a very small amount (a droplet or two) of the silicon fluid directly into the recess underneath the screw on the right hand side of the semi-circular Black support bar (close to where the tonearm tube would be if it was placed in the rest). You can gently pull up the semi circular Black bar to further expose more of the recessed aperture, to allow more access. Drip the oil (you should only need a couple of drops), into the recess using a syringe; a matchstick/cocktail-stick or similar implement can also be used. Leave it for a few hours or overnight in order for the fluid to seep its way into the assembly, then simply use the lever to raise the lifter up and down a few times to ensure the oil has lubricated the mechanism effectively. Your turntable should begin to function as normal again. The oil required is High Viscosity Silicone Differential Oil/Fluid which must be 100,000 cst. In our Service Centre, we use 'TrackStar' Silicone Diff Oil (High Viscosity) 100000cSt . This can be sourced from Remote Control (RC) Car stores, it is not expensive and a 60ml bottle should last for many years for this application. "
This is really helpful information! Thank you for posting this! I went to my local hobby store and picked up a bottle of TrackStar' Silicone Diff Oil (100000cSt ) and plan to apply the fix to my AT LP120 today.
@@jeffcsMN Inform us about result. Remember, don't put to much. No need for that. Rather add some next day if necessary. I managed to fix it without any problems. Second day when silicone settled it was like when bought new.
@@crodoc69 Happy to report it worked perfectly! However, I’m not sure why AT says no tools required as you do need a small Philips screwdriver to remove the lift bar in order to access the recessed aperture. I used about 3 drops liquid and let it sit overnight. Now it’s good as new!!
@@jeffcsMN Great! Keep sharing our expirience and this official message I got from their service. I also removed black bar to have more space and not to make a mess. Cheers!
If this method is preferred to work for many years, why is it in having this problem just a year out of the box? Shouldn't this be a manufacturer's defect that should be fixed like a recall on a car?
Excellent "How To Video". It appears that this problem just didn't exist with the LP120USB, but continues with the "NEW" LP120XUSB model. Since I have both turntables, this will turn into a small project. Mental Note to myself, do not apply too much fluid. :-)
Did this simple fix now my tonearm raises and lowers super smooth. I used SME 200000 cSt silicone oil. You only need a very small amount which I left you settle overnight. purchased of eBay for less than £10 ($10.00 = £7.93).
Vinyl New Wave Not a problem. I also subscribed so I’m steadily going through your videos. My record collection is mainly Motown, Stax, Philadelphia International and around 80 or so jazz albums.
Thanks for posting this. I’ve been dealing with this issue for a year or so now, and have been meaning to search for a solution. I just ordered the fluid. I’m glad (not for you) that you put too much fluid in at first. Now I’ll know to start with one small drop. Cheers!
Shad, Tavis sent me here. Looks like he fixed his tone arm because of this video. I marked/subbed this channel just in case I get such problems. Be safe and take care. ~NammaN~
this is exactly the fluid I used. one small drop in each hole and BAM! However my only issue is I didn't consider the depth I needed to screw it back on, but I figured it out through trial. :) I now get 3-3.2 seconds on a drop.
Update: My silicon fluid arrived yesterday. Instead of applying the gel to the piston underneath the cue lift, I opened my unit, and applied the gel to the heart of the problem. Now after repeated cuing, the stylus gradually touches the record. I know what some of you are thinking, I voided my warranty. What it would cost to ship for repairs is not worth it. Should I encounter issues, I’ll just go out and purchase a new unit. To be perfectly honest, I should not have had to do this on a turntable that I purchased new in August, 2019.
Thanks for the video Shad. I have had the same turntable as you for years and the arm has always dropped like a rock. Guess I'm going to get some fluid and add this to my to do list.
I have a brand new 140 which never cued as well as yours did after you fixed it! I would not trust it to drop on it's own without controlling it manually. It looks to be the same arm as the 120. The damping is already failing. Guess will have to do what you did. Many thanks, Malcolm Dyer, New Romney, UK.
Nice Samsung Gear watch and band! I have the save exact watch band on my Gear ⚙ 46MM. My watch band came with 2, one band is silver and black links which is what is on my wrist now and the 2nd band is obviously the one you're wearing. Anywho, thanks for the vodeo, my Audio-Technica tonearm has the same issue. I'll go get some that fluid and fix the lift. I was gonna call Audio-Technica and have them fix the issue since my deck is only 3 months old. But, thank you again very much for your time!!!
The tonearm cuing vicious fluid is applied to the piston(for lack of the proper term)at the base of the mechanism, not on the top. Just FYI. Thanks for your video though.
I took mine apart today, and this turntable doesn't have a piston, it's a brass rod in a brass bushing. There's no Chambers for this fluid. It's damped with grease it seems. It's kind of odd.
I just had this problem with my turntable. I watched your video, however I found a (hopefully permanent) quick fix. I dropped the queueing lever, and then with my finger moved the tonearm rest up and down rapidly for about 30 seconds to try and spread the grease around. Worked like a charm.
I tried this fix with silicone diff fluid which was recommended on other videos which was also thick and it had almost no effect. Maybe I have a different problem? Don't be surprised if this does not work for you. No matter how much I used it made no difference. Time for a better turntable.
So... what you are saying is... That it is not preferred to take a hard sharp piece of diamond.. and drop it willy-nilly onto a soft plastic... huh... Today I learned (JK ...Sarcasm!) This is good to know because I do plan on upgrading from a 60 to a 120... and I will need to know this! It was good to see you make the "too much" mistake... because I would have done the same thing! Now I can learn from your error!
When I put in too much fluid I always remove the lift, wipe it, put it back in without screw. Then take the lift back out and wipe it and repeat if necessary.
@@Aroundthefire77 Sorry.. I'm not affiliated with them, just used their product.. I used the 300,000 CST as my turntable has a tonearm cuing mechanisim, and not a trough or well...
After 4 months of a brand new lp140 same problem.Just purcase a silicon fluid to do it . But as i was searcing i found that this not the correct way and you have to open and do it from the inside. Does it worth it to do it with the hard way or this easy way is fixing the problem even from some months and if its back again you just do the same process?By the the way very helpful video .
Very thorough and helpful! Before I explore the oil solution, my problem might not be the same. The lever to raise and lower the tone arm doesn't do the job. There seems to be no palpable tension in the lever. And the arm just skips toward the spindle if I try placing the tone arm manually. Are these two issues related?
Not sure what you mean by there is no tension. There shouldn't be much, but should be some. Possibly you need some fluid. As far as skipping toward the spindle, check your anti-skating. Sounds like it's too high...
@@VinylNewWave Thank you for the help! I walked back through the anti-skate and got that settled. Working around the lever and will try oil per your video. Much appreciated!
Great video. Thanks. Do you have any ideas on how to make the lp120 more feedback resistant? The whole unit is very light and to much plastic on the body. Could be great if it was replaceable with aluminium like the Technics 1210. I have fill put all the inside with plasticine but didn't help that much.
I'm kinda curious to see how long before it needs to be done again. I used just barely a drop but, as you mentioned I'm going to let it sit for an hour. It is really thick!!!
I didn't get my turntable brand new. It was a couple months old. It worked fine for almost a year before the arm started dropping. Actually I think it works better now then before the issue occured.
Don't know why they couldn't make these with a decent dampening system. My old Dual 505 lasted god knows how many years with a great mechanism and no need no top up anything. Ever..
Mine dropped onto records with a noticeable "thump" but loosening the screw (just a little bit) on the little plastic mechanism that raises the tonearm on my AT-LP2D USB seems to have helped the tonearm to drop softer. The biggest problem with mine is with the automatic cueing, it moves too far into the record, no matter if it's a 7 or 12 inch and falls on some records a few seconds into the song! That's what I can't figure out how to fix... 😭😭😭😭
The little rubber plug on the armboard to the left of your tonearm... pull it out, theres a screw, flathead... believe its counterclockwise for in, clockwise for out. Make TINY adjustments at a time! Like, 1/8 inch or less.
@@Texan1048 Thanks for the info. I'm in the process of moving so I've packed the unit away. Hopefully, in the next few months, I'll be able to see if this works. 😁
I noticed mine dropping like that but, I got mine used. It always seemed to drop quick but, now it doesn't want to drip slow even when I use the tone arm control.
Hi, I have got different model of Technics turntable ( Sl-QD33 ) and tonearm is falling too slowly. What does it men? The machine is like 25 yo and not been serviced till now. Everything else seems to be working just fine . Greetings
I have just the opposite problem , my tone arm lift won't lower at all . In other words the stylus won't drop onto the record. could it be so dry that the lift is stuck in the up position ? What say you ? Thanks !! P.S. its a Sony ps -4300.
Good evening (Indian time). My turntable made in india by company, COSMIC has the same problem of tone arm coming down like a rock. So can you PLEASE PLEASE let me know the name of the solution or glue you used for this along with the description of the formula of that particular solution. I will try to get it here. I had purchased this turntable in the year just for Rs.3,100/- which gave me very good service. Later on I started using magnetic cartridge by SHURE which gave me fantastic sound production. I will be very very grateful to you if I know the details of the solution. Thanks.
When you put the fluid in hole is it around the little metal rod or inside of that? I’m still relatively new to this and would like to avoid as much damage to the player itself. Any help is appreciated
Vinyl New Wave thank you, I think it’s an issue as a whole with some audio technicas because I have the 120 and it looks like this is a common error. Hopefully the fluid does it’s work I’m gonna let it sit for a few hours
I have a AT LP120 USB. Turntable. The Anti Skate dosent work and i have the same problem you do. I should have just sticked to cds. The record playing hobby cost to much and it's not fulfilling in the long run. Believe me i have spent the money.
Hmm.. The anti skate not working is usually a spring that's disconnected under the tonearm base. You can find videos on that on TH-cam. This is a good turntable, it's just there are a few flaws that can be overcome.
@@phantasm1004 Hello. Jack Here. I bought a new audio technica 120x turntable. The anti skake works perfectly on this turntable. I have already played 325 records on it with no problems. I still play CDs. I would never use Streaming.
Hey shad, your camera was not on the straight above angle, Tavis did both holes, is that correct ? , just a small drop 300k in BOTH holes? Great vid , and so helpfull. Kind regards Erik
Thanks for watching! By both holes, I'm guessing you mean around and inside the post. Honestly, I think it's only needed around the post. Inside appears to be just threads for the screw that holds on the cradle. I think I put some in both holes not knowing, but I think that it all came out when I put the screw back in.
@@VinylNewWave Ok, I thought there were 2 holes, one with the screw,/post and above that, another hole, where the small cone fits into..... so put some in that one and around the post in the lower one? I got a message from a technica department of AT about the viscosity ... they use 100k ..You use 300k... is 100 k in your opinion to little, will the lift arm still drop too fast in your experience ? Thks for taking the time to answer Chad! really appreciate it 💪🏻👍🏻. Kind Regards Erik
@@VinylNewWave Cheers mate ! , thnks for looking at Tavis Video! , I thought so also, not to put anything in the small hole. What about my question about the viscosity of the lube with 100 k? , do you think shad 100k is sufficient ? Thanks Erik!
This appears to be a failure in almost 100% of LP 120 turntables in the first 6 months. So why should the consumer foot the bill for the fluid and labour when it is bulit-in fault of Audio -Technica during their warranty?
I just exchanged the whole unit for the upgraded version and sounds fantastic too, audio fixed! Had 4 days left on my warranty for exchage. So i replaced the floor model for a brand new 120X the price on the new one dropped to what i paid for the floor model:)
So this video is really mostly about removing the damping oil ;) Thank you for showing us how to apply it. What viscosity did you use, 300k or 500k cSt?
Hmm.. when you lift the lever up, it won't stay up? I'd say something is broken down inside. Maybe follow my disassembly and see if you can find the part..
One drop was just enough!!! It works perfect!!! It only took about 20 minutes for the fluid to drain down. Kudos!!!
Checking in in 2022 to say this worked great! Only needed 1 big drop of the stuff and it's dropping perfectly now. Thanks for the video and the product rec!
Before applying new damping fluid...ALWAYS clean out the old crudy residue!
This problem occured in my AT-LP 150xp quite soon after purchasing it, so it's 3 months ago i decided to solve it myself, so i bought the 500.000 cst damping gel and applied couple drops on the brass lever bushing. It was getting smooth imediately but after 3 months is even better. Thanks for advice, well done! 👍
I've had the newer AT-LP120XUSB for about 5 months now, &, unfortunately, the same problem still exists. It seems like there is a little hitch when using the cue lever, & the tonearm just DROPS hard. Don't understand why Audio Technica hasn't resolved this issue. SO happy with the turntable other-wise, the sound quality is awesome......anyway, I just move the cue lever very slowly & then it is ok.....
jeffthrow6892
My SL-1700 too. I have not attempted to make any repairs yet. I lower the arm very slowly manually
I had the same issue too with my AT-LP120XUSB. After 3 months the tonearm drops like a bomb.
@@Dufrense1978 yeah I’ve had my LPX120USB less than a year and same thing, drops like a lead weight. Got some fluid on order and will be carrying this maintenance once it arrives. Glad it’s an easy fix!!
I have a feeling it's because these records players sit in hot warehouses and the liquid just evaporates
Did this fix. It lasts a couple of months then back to dropping like a stone.
I had to do the same to my LP-120 also! I sold mine and bought two Fluance RT-82's
Hey man! Thank you so much for putting this video together. Kind of an uncommon personal tech job so I was extremely pleased to see something so clear and simple to follow to help me get the job done. Cheers!
I concur, I just googled AT-LP120 needle drop fix and your video comes up first. Thanks for going to the effort to find out the fix and create a video, im going to try this soon looks very simple indeed !
Thank you so much!!!! Mine stopped working 2 years after purchase!! I've been hand dropping (thankfully i have steady hands) but my wife and friends do not!!!! Going to order this dampening fluid and give it a try!!!
Thanks for the video. I just ordered my fluid and will follow your lead. I bought my TT in 2020 and I know the arm has been dropping hard for over a year (though I just hand drop it now).
This is official from Audio-Technica service center:
"Sorry to hear you are experiencing this issue.
Occasionally we do have instances where the silicon dampening fluid needs to be replenished in order for the lift / lower mechanism to function correctly.
In order to do so, ensure the stylus guard is fitted then move the tonearm towards the centre spindle, or remove the headshell and the tonearm will spring upwards (due to the counter weight being on there), which will also take it out of the way.
This process is quite easy and requires no tools. Whilst the lever is in the raised position apply a very small amount (a droplet or two) of the silicon fluid directly into the recess underneath the screw on the right hand side of the semi-circular Black support bar (close to where the tonearm tube would be if it was placed in the rest). You can gently pull up the semi circular Black bar to further expose more of the recessed aperture, to allow more access. Drip the oil (you should only need a couple of drops), into the recess using a syringe; a matchstick/cocktail-stick or similar implement can also be used. Leave it for a few hours or overnight in order for the fluid to seep its way into the assembly, then simply use the lever to raise the lifter up and down a few times to ensure the oil has lubricated the mechanism effectively. Your turntable should begin to function as normal again.
The oil required is High Viscosity Silicone Differential Oil/Fluid which must be 100,000 cst. In our Service Centre, we use 'TrackStar' Silicone Diff Oil (High Viscosity) 100000cSt . This can be sourced from Remote Control (RC) Car stores, it is not expensive and a 60ml bottle should last for many years for this application. "
This is really helpful information! Thank you for posting this! I went to my local hobby store and picked up a bottle of TrackStar' Silicone Diff Oil (100000cSt ) and plan to apply the fix to my AT LP120 today.
@@jeffcsMN Inform us about result. Remember, don't put to much. No need for that. Rather add some next day if necessary. I managed to fix it without any problems.
Second day when silicone settled it was like when bought new.
@@crodoc69 Happy to report it worked perfectly! However, I’m not sure why AT says no tools required as you do need a small Philips screwdriver to remove the lift bar in order to access the recessed aperture. I used about 3 drops liquid and let it sit overnight. Now it’s good as new!!
@@jeffcsMN Great! Keep sharing our expirience and this official message I got from their service.
I also removed black bar to have more space and not to make a mess.
Cheers!
If this method is preferred to work for many years, why is it in having this problem just a year out of the box? Shouldn't this be a manufacturer's defect that should be fixed like a recall on a car?
Excellent "How To Video". It appears that this problem just didn't exist with the LP120USB, but continues with the "NEW" LP120XUSB model. Since I have both turntables, this will turn into a small project. Mental Note to myself, do not apply too much fluid. :-)
Did this simple fix now my tonearm raises and lowers super smooth. I used SME 200000 cSt silicone oil. You only need a very small amount which I left you settle overnight.
purchased of eBay for less than £10 ($10.00 = £7.93).
Thanks for sharing
Vinyl New Wave Not a problem. I also subscribed so I’m steadily going through your videos. My record collection is mainly Motown, Stax, Philadelphia International and around 80 or so jazz albums.
Have this problem with mine thanks for showing how to fix. All the best Jon
Thanks for posting this. I’ve been dealing with this issue for a year or so now, and have been meaning to search for a solution. I just ordered the fluid. I’m glad (not for you) that you put too much fluid in at first. Now I’ll know to start with one small drop. Cheers!
Good luck!
thanks for this been driving me crazy since I bought the TT
My Denon VL12 has been doing this since I got it. Thanks for the tips. I'll have a poke around the lift mechanism and see if I can sort it out.
Shad,
Tavis sent me here. Looks like he fixed his tone arm because of this video. I marked/subbed this channel just in case I get such problems. Be safe and take care.
~NammaN~
Thanks! I think I've been subscribed to your channel for a while..
same here man
this is exactly the fluid I used. one small drop in each hole and BAM! However my only issue is I didn't consider the depth I needed to screw it back on, but I figured it out through trial. :) I now get 3-3.2 seconds on a drop.
..how many holes? more than 10?
Update: My silicon fluid arrived yesterday. Instead of applying the gel to the piston underneath the cue lift, I opened my unit, and applied the gel to the heart of the problem. Now after repeated cuing, the stylus gradually touches the record. I know what some of you are thinking, I voided my warranty. What it would cost to ship for repairs is not worth it. Should I encounter issues, I’ll just go out and purchase a new unit.
To be perfectly honest, I should not have had to do this on a turntable that I purchased new in August, 2019.
Yeah, mine dropped like a rock from almost day one.. It's much better now. Still working well! Thanks for the update!
Thanks for the video Shad. I have had the same turntable as you for years and the arm has always dropped like a rock. Guess I'm going to get some fluid and add this to my to do list.
Thanks! If you want, I have plenty of fluid left. I can send it to you..
@@VinylNewWave I will gladly buy some from you as i have no idea where to purchase it.
@@phantasm1004 thank you.
I have a brand new 140 which never cued as well as yours did after you fixed it! I would not trust it to drop on it's own without controlling it manually. It looks to be the same arm as the 120. The damping is already failing. Guess will have to do what you did. Many thanks, Malcolm Dyer, New Romney, UK.
I'm digging that 120 Ben using the LPX 60 & 60x for the past year & they are great. I just wish the 120 had an Auto cuing feature.
Thx for the info👍👍
Thanks for video and link for what you used.. I tried 2000 rc car diff grease but it wasn't thick enough. Just ordered this stuff.
Nice Samsung Gear watch and band! I have the save exact watch band on my Gear ⚙ 46MM. My watch band came with 2, one band is silver and black links which is what is on my wrist now and the 2nd band is obviously the one you're wearing. Anywho, thanks for the vodeo, my Audio-Technica tonearm has the same issue. I'll go get some that fluid and fix the lift. I was gonna call Audio-Technica and have them fix the issue since my deck is only 3 months old. But, thank you again very much for your time!!!
You're welcome! Good luck!
I ordered the mid grade fluid like you suggested. Now all I have to do is hurry up wait for the pony Express to deliver it!!!lol!! Thanks!!!
Good luck!!
The tonearm cuing vicious fluid is applied to the piston(for lack of the proper term)at the base of the mechanism, not on the top. Just FYI. Thanks for your video though.
I took mine apart today, and this turntable doesn't have a piston, it's a brass rod in a brass bushing. There's no Chambers for this fluid. It's damped with grease it seems. It's kind of odd.
Thanks a lot for this video! I managed to finally fix the dropping tonearm of my audio technnica at 120 lp
Excellent! I finally know how to this on my turntable.
I just had this problem with my turntable. I watched your video, however I found a (hopefully permanent) quick fix. I dropped the queueing lever, and then with my finger moved the tonearm rest up and down rapidly for about 30 seconds to try and spread the grease around. Worked like a charm.
This worked for a while, but not consistently, and after a while, it stopped working.
Yes! that's the problem and the solution ATLP120USB Thank you I'm guessing they all do this....
gonna try this out, thanks! my turntable has the same problem
Good luck!
@@VinylNewWave it worked like a charm by the way :)
Thanks for making this video, it’s very helpful 👍
Awesome. Thank-you for this. Had exactly the same problem.
Great vid,shows you how to mess it up the repair and fix it again lol.
I try
I tried this fix with silicone diff fluid which was recommended on other videos which was also thick and it had almost no effect. Maybe I have a different problem? Don't be surprised if this does not work for you. No matter how much I used it made no difference. Time for a better turntable.
yep.
So... what you are saying is... That it is not preferred to take a hard sharp piece of diamond.. and drop it willy-nilly onto a soft plastic... huh... Today I learned (JK ...Sarcasm!)
This is good to know because I do plan on upgrading from a 60 to a 120... and I will need to know this!
It was good to see you make the "too much" mistake... because I would have done the same thing! Now I can learn from your error!
You're hilarious. (JK, sarcasm)
You did the same thing I did. I touched it and stuck and dragged the fluid. Then I had goop in spots....crap to clean.
Thanks for the detailed instructions!!!
Glad it was helpful!
I have the same problem with my Kenwood kd990 and that has a solenoid lifter, wish me luck.
When I put in too much fluid I always remove the lift, wipe it, put it back in without screw.
Then take the lift back out and wipe it and repeat if necessary.
Thanks for the tip!
@@VinylNewWave You're welcome.
Thanks for the video, love your record collection looks like mine, mines all Jazz with a few classical 👍
Thanks for the video man. I have this problem with my AT and your video came out first. About to order some of that
Thanks for watching! Remember that you only need to put one small drop in.. It doesn't take much at all!
@@VinylNewWave what cST was this you used? The lower the cST the lighter the dampening.
@@VinylNewWave i tried to email turntablebasics.com but they are ignoring my emails now for 3 weeks.
@@Aroundthefire77 Sorry.. I'm not affiliated with them, just used their product.. I used the 300,000 CST as my turntable has a tonearm cuing mechanisim, and not a trough or well...
That happened to the cuing on my Toshiba turntable less than a year after i got it but the warranty didn't include those type of problems
Thank you very much for the video.
Question: Is 500.000 thicker than 300.000?
yes.
After 4 months of a brand new lp140 same problem.Just purcase a silicon fluid to do it . But as i was searcing i found that this not the correct way and you have to open and do it from the inside. Does it worth it to do it with the hard way or this easy way is fixing the problem even from some months and if its back again you just do the same process?By the the way very helpful video .
Good to know! Now can you show us how to fix the faulty anti-skate WITHOUT having to desolder and resolder all those joints? :)
The antiskate is spring controlled, what solder joints? The antiskate doesn't attach that way.
How come you never had to do this with turntables years ago, I have one from around 20 years ago and it still works.
Because vintage tables were made way better
Jesus… A whole shelf of records… those are bucks, man
Very thorough and helpful! Before I explore the oil solution, my problem might not be the same. The lever to raise and lower the tone arm doesn't do the job. There seems to be no palpable tension in the lever. And the arm just skips toward the spindle if I try placing the tone arm manually. Are these two issues related?
Not sure what you mean by there is no tension. There shouldn't be much, but should be some. Possibly you need some fluid. As far as skipping toward the spindle, check your anti-skating. Sounds like it's too high...
@@VinylNewWave Thank you for the help! I walked back through the anti-skate and got that settled. Working around the lever and will try oil per your video. Much appreciated!
Would you be kind enough to tell the name of the fluid you inserted? Thank you.
It's silicone damping fluid. I purchased it from turntablebasics.com
@@VinylNewWave Thank you very much for the useful information.
Shad, where did the little spring come from? Was it connected with screw or did it come from a separate hole by itself?? Thx!
It was under the plastic tonearm support, around the brass screw post. (If I remember correctly.)
any videos on an equal but opposite problem? my armrest doesn't drop when lever is depressed?!! thanks
sorry for my bad english, what is the product you use?
thanks, great video
Great video. Thanks. Do you have any ideas on how to make the lp120 more feedback resistant? The whole unit is very light and to much plastic on the body. Could be great if it was replaceable with aluminium like the Technics 1210. I have fill put all the inside with plasticine but didn't help that much.
I'm kinda curious to see how long before it needs to be done again. I used just barely a drop but, as you mentioned I'm going to let it sit for an hour. It is really thick!!!
I haven't had to re-do it in the 2 years since I made this video...
I didn't get my turntable brand new. It was a couple months old. It worked fine for almost a year before the arm started dropping. Actually I think it works better now then before the issue occured.
Does the fluid go in the screw hole. Or the area round aboout it?
top video, we undertand that was not clear before......
Thanks so I know not to add too much, thanks again... :)
You are so welcome!
Have you encountered any other problem with this Turntable as I have seen some reviews that the Anti-Skate doesn’t work properly
I haven't had the anti-skate problem.
Excellent video!! Thanks!!!
Glad you liked it!
Thank you for this video, mine drops like a rock and skips grooves and it's really annoying. My question is, where can we buy this fluid?
Hey isn't this problem just solved by manually move and gently drop the tonearm?
That worked for a while, then it stopped working. Hence the fluid. Thanks for watching!
Very helpful.thanks Stan
Don't know why they couldn't make these with a decent dampening system. My old Dual 505 lasted god knows how many years with a great mechanism and no need no top up anything. Ever..
Mine dropped onto records with a noticeable "thump" but loosening the screw (just a little bit) on the little plastic mechanism that raises the tonearm on my AT-LP2D USB seems to have helped the tonearm to drop softer. The biggest problem with mine is with the automatic cueing, it moves too far into the record, no matter if it's a 7 or 12 inch and falls on some records a few seconds into the song! That's what I can't figure out how to fix... 😭😭😭😭
Sorry, can't help with that one.. Thanks for watching! Good Luck!
The little rubber plug on the armboard to the left of your tonearm... pull it out, theres a screw, flathead... believe its counterclockwise for in, clockwise for out. Make TINY adjustments at a time! Like, 1/8 inch or less.
@@Texan1048 Thanks for the info. I'm in the process of moving so I've packed the unit away. Hopefully, in the next few months, I'll be able to see if this works. 😁
Nice watch
Thanks for watching
very well explained
Thanks!
Does anyone know how to replace the AT-LP120 USB tonearm "clamp"? I have been unable to find anything on this. Thx in advance!
Hello. I located this stuff online but there are differences. What CSTs was this?
For this particular turntable, 300,000
Very helpful video thank you so much
Grazie mille!
I noticed mine dropping like that but, I got mine used. It always seemed to drop quick but, now it doesn't want to drip slow even when I use the tone arm control.
Sounds like you definitely need new damping fluid.
can i use grease beside the damping fluid?
Hi, I have got different model of Technics turntable ( Sl-QD33 ) and tonearm is falling too slowly. What does it men? The machine is like 25 yo and not been serviced till now. Everything else seems to be working just fine . Greetings
Perhaps you need to clean out any old fluid..
I learnt 2 things today... One of them was, what in the hell that hole is used for at the back of the tone arm..
Did you only put it around the brass tube or the screw hole ado it need to go in the other pin location holes
Just around the brass tube...
I have just the opposite problem , my tone arm lift won't lower at all . In other words the stylus won't drop onto the record. could it be so dry that the lift is stuck in the up position ? What say you ? Thanks !! P.S. its a Sony ps -4300.
I'd say it's a good possibility that old gunky fluid is messing up the works.!
What is the thickness of the silicone fluid that you are using thank you
I have added the info to the video description.
Good evening (Indian time). My turntable made in india by company, COSMIC has the same problem of tone arm coming down like a rock.
So can you PLEASE PLEASE let me know the name of the solution or glue you used for this along with the description of the formula of that particular solution.
I will try to get it here.
I had purchased this turntable in the year just for Rs.3,100/- which gave me very good service. Later on I started using magnetic cartridge by SHURE which gave me fantastic sound production.
I will be very very grateful to you if I know the details of the solution.
Thanks.
does this Problem comes as well on 2020 Audiotechnica AT LP 120?! or already gone! thks
I have heard of people with the newer model also having this problem....
Nice work!
Very helpful, thanks
Hello, what size screwdriver do I need to fix this?
#2 Philips
When you put the fluid in hole is it around the little metal rod or inside of that? I’m still relatively new to this and would like to avoid as much damage to the player itself. Any help is appreciated
Around the rod not in it. And all it takes is a drop.
Vinyl New Wave thank you, I think it’s an issue as a whole with some audio technicas because I have the 120 and it looks like this is a common error. Hopefully the fluid does it’s work I’m gonna let it sit for a few hours
What do I do if I accidentally apply fluid inside the hole?
What viscosity of the damping fluid did you use?
I have added the info to the video description.
I have a AT LP120 USB. Turntable. The Anti Skate dosent work and i have the same problem you do. I should have just sticked to cds. The record playing hobby cost to much and it's not fulfilling in the long run. Believe me i have spent the money.
Hmm.. The anti skate not working is usually a spring that's disconnected under the tonearm base. You can find videos on that on TH-cam. This is a good turntable, it's just there are a few flaws that can be overcome.
@@phantasm1004 Hello. Jack Here. I bought a new audio technica 120x turntable. The anti skake works perfectly on this turntable. I have already played 325 records on it with no problems. I still play CDs. I would never use Streaming.
Hey shad, your camera was not on the straight above angle, Tavis did both holes, is that correct ? , just a small drop 300k in BOTH holes?
Great vid , and so helpfull. Kind regards Erik
Thanks for watching! By both holes, I'm guessing you mean around and inside the post. Honestly, I think it's only needed around the post. Inside appears to be just threads for the screw that holds on the cradle. I think I put some in both holes not knowing, but I think that it all came out when I put the screw back in.
@@VinylNewWave Ok, I thought there were 2 holes, one with the screw,/post and above that, another hole, where the small cone fits into..... so put some in that one and around the post in the lower one?
I got a message from a technica department of AT about the viscosity ... they use 100k ..You use 300k... is 100 k in your opinion to little, will the lift arm still drop too fast in your experience ?
Thks for taking the time to answer Chad! really appreciate it 💪🏻👍🏻.
Kind Regards Erik
I just watched Tavis's video. No.. Don't put it in the small hole.. Just around the post where the screw goes.
@@VinylNewWave Cheers mate ! , thnks for looking at Tavis Video! , I thought so also, not to put anything in the small hole. What about my question about the viscosity of the lube with 100 k? , do you think shad 100k is sufficient ?
Thanks Erik!
Why take the counter weight off at all? Makes job twice the hassle
because balancing the tonearm is easy peasy
Amigo como se llama el lubricante que le aplicas....saludos
WAIT!!! you mean i don't have to break out the soldering iron for this AT fix?? what the??? 😁
This appears to be a failure in almost 100% of LP 120 turntables in the first 6 months. So why should the consumer foot the bill for the fluid and labour when it is bulit-in fault of Audio -Technica during their warranty?
Are you just putting it in the hole around the post the screw goes in or in the screw to?
I think that it should just go around the post, but I did get a little in the screw hole. It didn't seem to matter.
The post is where the gel should be applied. After all, that is the part that moves up and down.
I just exchanged the whole unit for the upgraded version and sounds fantastic too, audio fixed! Had 4 days left on my warranty for exchage. So i replaced the floor model for a brand new 120X the price on the new one dropped to what i paid for the floor model:)
Give it time. The problem exists with the AT-LP120xUSB as well. Sadly enough.
Has nothing whatsoever w/ my problem Although good quality video!
So this video is really mostly about removing the damping oil ;)
Thank you for showing us how to apply it. What viscosity did you use, 300k or 500k cSt?
He he.. yeah I misjudged a bit.. I used the 300k. I'm really happy with it now. Thanks for watching!
GOOD JOB!!
What brand of dampening fluid did you use to fix this?
turntablebasics.com/silicone.html
Thanks. I have the same problem with my PLX-500.
What kind of fluid does it take?
I just added a link to the fluid in the video description.
I don’t know why you had to take the counter weight off for.🤔
Just to keep it from flopping around.
Do you need to re-do the entire setup after this? Not that setting up a LT120 takes a long time, but...
Lol, so ONE drop of heavy gear oil for those of us that are on a budget.
@@phantasm1004 Thanks
No. Marine or bearing grease. Bacon fat if you're really on a budget.
I have the opposite problem, it doesn't stay up! what should I do?
Hmm.. when you lift the lever up, it won't stay up? I'd say something is broken down inside. Maybe follow my disassembly and see if you can find the part..
Not the racist flag lol