Oops, there's a slight issue at 6:30 where an AtlasVPN logo flashes up for a few seconds. Quite aware of the mistake. I can't actually reupload TH-cam videos so I can't fix it, but here's my comment so you don't have to comment 😅 I'm not trying to subliminally message you, though I am thankful for the sponsor. I'm definitely a professional who is ready for this.
hey, I know this is late, but I regularly dye my hair silver/gray. If you want it to turn out well, it needs to be bleached platinum blond. Silver also fades super fast, first to grey then to white, so you have to be prepared for an inconsistent color. However, it's such a cool aesthetic, natural enough to be able to wear things with it but still unique enough to signal the gays. Advice to get and keep gray is to bleach super light, use color safe hair products obviously, and find a glitter toned conditioner (often comes with silver dye) to help it not turn gray as fast.
@@Anna-B reference to horror game. Where priest separates from the Vatican to hunt demons. If you’re super religious it’ll probably be something you loathe.
Thank you for acknowledging that schizophrenia and DID are shitty way how to describe killers. As schizophrenic, seeing *every single character with schizophrenia* being murderer, assaulter or inhuman monster is very hurtful and couldn't be further from the truth! Schizophrenics are, indeed, statistically 14 times more prone to being victims of violent crime than being abusers! This condition is very, very stressing and damaging on it's own and I'm not even counting the stigma and how society treats us, how we're treated as non-people who should be locked up to prevent us from "harming" others even if we're the ones who are treated horribly and inhumanely. Every single fellow schizophrenic I personally met is the most kind, non-conflict person. Please treat mentally ill people with basic human respect, even mentally ill people who have stigmatized "scary" disorders! Thank you for bringing this issue up, keep doing what you're doing. :)
I have chronic psychosis, (haven't been diagnosed with anything) but I hate telling people because their first thought is that I'm dangerous. Bad representations can genuinely affect real people when they are exposed to them over and over.
@@Angela1111122222 yeah, i feel like people who have to go through that kind of shit are more likely to be empathetic people because they understand how difficult life can be through no fault of your own.
This is also true for BPD. Haven't seen that much in fiction, but online a lot. Like do you expect me to keep my cool around you, while you are treating me like a horrible manipulator? But if I get angry that's suddenly my fault and I'm feeding into your narrative... like of course my disorder is hard on people close to me as well, but it'll always be the worst for me. Having BPD is hell but people still judge us horribly. I wouldn't wish that on anybody...
Catholic here chiming in: EXORCISMS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE VIOLENT. The actual Rite (fancy word for "the words & actions of a ceremony") of Exorcism is legitimately just a priest speaking some words and prayers over someone. I've read it-someone doing a real exorcism would not need to touch someone at all, let alone harm them. The torture and beatings and violence we've seen historically are JUST awful people on a power trip, not at all reflective of the real practice (regardless of whether you believe there are any demons there to remove.)
To add to that as an apatheist (so I have 0 dogs in that fight, in case a weirdo ever drops by to say you're being an apologist or something, I just learned it while doing research for my Devilman and JoJo fanfics): There's also REALLY STRICT RULES for when to go for the exorcism that the Vatican set up SPECIFICALLY to try to prevent abuse: you're supposed to have ruled out every other condition, medical or environmental; from carbon monoxide poisoning to weird electrical appliances stuff to infrasounds to a neurologist to psychologist to therapist... you get the idea, basically the exorcism is supposed to be considered the nuclear option.
me, a student at bridgets school: oh boy haha looks like someone turned all the crucifixes in the school church upside down, what an exciting new way to worship god! I'm so glad there are no secret demon summonings going on here :)
@@nikkim7038 Jup, because Pete was crucified upside down. Why, there is a whole conspiracy theory. Anyways. The real satanic cross looks so much cooler, I don't know why media doesn't use it more often.
@@nikkim7038 Yeah but try to get that piece of pop-christianity out of their mouths, I swear they're worse than a dog eating PhDs once they're handed something they can make a bogeyman out of. The snake getting conflated with Satan, Satan being conflated with Lucifer, stealing the whole "rebels against God after being told to bow to Adam" from Islam's backstory for Iblis when Lucifer HAS NO FREE WILL AS AN ANGEL while Iblis, as a djinn, did... And let's not start on Dante's circles and Milton woobifying Lucifer.
Honestly, I hate how people forget it’s a trauma disorder and act like systems are all dangerous, violent abusers with secret “personalities” who’ll do anything to harm them
@Viewer There are definitely videos like this, though because most channels are really small can be hard to find. We're kind of picky about the media analysis, but we remember enjoying The Entropy System's media series. Collective Mind DID also has recently started a series, and we've enjoyed their analysis videos. And not media analysis but we really love The Rings System for their educational, straightforward, short explanation videos that go over various concepts.
@@crotalinae.serpentes ~We~ Well, there is the answer to the riddle, as to why DID is such a fucking mess of a concept. People (singular individuals that is) just insist on being special way to much. Good job 'you guys'. Well done (to all of you)
I grew up in Catholicism, so I’m 100% sure they noticed the demon thing, but pretended it wasn’t there to avoid the scandal. And yeah the Catholic guilt is legit. Still trying to undo it at 30, despite not having been Catholic since I was 14.
As someone who grew up with a parent who believed in Christian science, and as someone who's been dealing with mental illnesses for most of my life, thank you for pointing out the connection between mental health and religious abuse. Obviously, religion can be a great coping skill for some people, but there are more conservative religious doctrines that basically are just like "depressed? Demons. Manic? Demons. Flashbacks? Demons. Gay? Double demons." And that attitude makes everything worse.
Yeah, as someone who was raised Catholic by fairly devout parents, I have nothing against religion when it's clearly used positively to support people, especially in times of need, but there's often this underlining ignorance that people just seem to get---comfortable in. Attributing everything that happens to either God or demons is so frustrating. Problems don't just get prayed away. To me, it's like, what's the point of saying God gave humans free will if you're not going to use it to make good decisions for yourself? I doubt he meant sit on your ass and ignore all scientific reasoning in favor of demonizing everything you don't understand. Or maybe he did, what do I know? Maybe you do have not one, but TWO demons when you're gay🙄. I should probs call an exorcist for myself now.
@@joyc.e.7511 The most ironic thing is that like... Okay so I did a deep dive into Christianity, Catholicism, the Vatican, exorcism, demonology, Christian occultic traditions from the medieval period, etc. (I'm still deep diving but my focus rn is on the early Old Testament denominations that got wiped from memory (or almost wiped) for being "heretical" to the Orthodoxy) The Vatican literally has guidelines to rule out ALL MEDICAL POSSIBILITIES before considering demonic influence, and IIRC they've had that out since at least the 1950s and they made a BIG DEAL of it. It's supposed to be COMMON PROCEDURE to try literally everything scientific before resorting to the spiritual according to the Big Guys At The Top of the clergy. And that's because most of the sciences were fathered by people that the Vatican recognizes as men of God. Sciences were literally justified by the Church as a spiritual calling to understand God by understanding what he made. It blows my mind as an apatheist that people don't even...Check what their scholarly experts say? Why do *I* care more about their faith's history, precedents, and guidance than the people who claim that faith? How is it that *I* know more about the protocols for when an exorcism is required than literally the people who do the exorcisms? It's just so weirdly *unnerving* to be aware of that ignorance people have about their own faith. Stupid to quote a game character, but Ulysses' line strikes me as apt, there: "Who are you, you who do not know your own history?"
@@neoqwerty I think it has to do with it being easier to just go straight to demons as the problem. In a way it becomes out of their hands and they don't have to take any personal accountability because a demon did it. They WANT to leave things to God.
I’m an autistic man, but the only interest I have in trains is the light rail I ride to get around town. I am so thoroughly weary of the “boy-who-likes-numbers-and-trains” stereotype.
@@toolatetothestory That I can respect. A gun interest would definitely be useful in a post apocalyptic story. LOL Seriously, though, I can only imagine the intricate work that goes into working on guns. I'm not good with anything mechanical.
@@yogsothoth8389 Oh I am not exactly good with mechanics either, barely had any training, but I like to look over the different types, details that make them unique, where they are used and why they aren't used elsewhere, which ones are better for what purpose etc. My favourite is the QSB 91. It's kinda ridiculous, but I love it. Knife Guns are awesome xD
hi Crow, i'm Raven and i have DID. a lot of people don't understand and don't care to understand the horror that has to take place in a child's life to cause it. so thank you for taking the time to educate and clear up the misconceptions that We and people like Us are inherently violent or scary or dangerous. we just want to live and be safe. edit: that shirt is awesome
I used to have DID. Then we fused when I was around 8-9. I find it wild people with DID are usually portrayed as violent, because I'm not sure who would be scared of toddler me just because they ended up being so badly traumatized that the original host retreated deep into their mind and went to sleep for years while their guardian fronted. How is it that children with DID aren't scary, but adults are? I think they just don't know that children with DID exist tbh. If they did then maybe they'd question how stupid this trope is.
@@ettaetta439 you did not have DID as a child that young. one does not "once have" DID and then "fuze" better. it is a permanent, life long disability. either you're lying or you were lied to.
@@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana no, trauma is an inherent part of DID. nothing short of an event that a child (under the age of 8) does not believe they will survive that causes it. a child with no such trauma has no reason to create an alter.
These videos continue to be some of my favorite to craft along to! RE: Catholic guilt, yep, you got it. It's also super weird because you go from NEVER HAVE SEX OR MARY AND GOD WILL CRY to GO HAVE SEX IMMEDIATELY after there's a marriage. Catholic weddings are weird. Also, tw religious trauma, mental health: Thank you for talking about the issues with exorcisms irl. I was never actually exorcised (unlike some of my friends, one of whom had DID), but I was threatened with it while in a psych ward, leading to a psychotic break, and it's definitely not helpful to be told, when seeking help for paranoid delusions, "oh, no, that's real, you've sinned (somehow, figure it out) and demons are Going To Get You." It was horrible because I would get locked into a vicious cycle of self loathing and fear where I would pray more to try to be Good, but my mental health was only getting worse and I would be more terrified. Also, a weird number of Catholics are like oh yeah the closer you get to God the worse you'll feel (dark night of the soul and all), which does not help I'm doing a lot better now, but even now a lot of ooooo spooky demon media really fucks with me. Especially after studying a lot of history of medicine, it's more tragic than spooky, and I feel a deep grief for people who werent able to escape the religious framing and reach a better sense of management and reality. One last side note, also props for discussing autism rep! Anyway, this channel is amazing, and thank you so much!
Thank you for talking about schizophrenia and DID. I have DID, but more notably, a relative of mine has both. She has been exorcised before by our more religious relatives, which didn't work obviously, so she's still continuously shamed by them for needing help. She's elderly and has been in some form of treatment for most of her life, but many of her doctors and therapists have been unwilling to accommodate even one of her conditions, let alone both. It's frustrating to see the misunderstandings and biases against these disorders get perpetuated in media without anyone seeming to give a shit about how it hurts real people.
My brother was diagnosed with DID and he gets so upset with how the media constantly portrays it as something always villainous and evil - thank you for being so educated on it and speaking out against the misuse (: ! I always enjoy your vids! P.s. I especially love that you added people with DID are almost never perpetrators of violence but rather victims of it- very very true.
this was a great video and i appreciate that you spoke about the harmful portrayals of DID and schizophrenia in media. i also wanted to add my own personal funniest wardrobe atrocity. from a fanfic i wrote in 2012; the main character showed up to her first day at a new school wearing a purple and white striped top, brown khakis, and red and black plaid converse. all the main characters of the show instantly tell her how cute she looks.
I have to disagree a little on the exorcism thing; in my opinion, if it's pretty far divorced from reality, like what you see in The Sandman or Mob Psycho 100, it can be a fine fantasy thing to include in your story. Having people be possessed by demons or ghosts and the heroes have to save them isn't inherently a bad concept. The main problem with this book imo lies in how it ties demonic possession so closely to DID; they explicitly say that the way demonic possession occurs could be mistaken for DID. That's just my feeling, though; I think it's valid to find the concept in media distasteful.
I agree. I think the author really strayed too far into the "realism" of Catholic exorcism without taking into account the harm that practice has caused to many throughout history. It's clear that she was *aware* that schizophrenia and DID were wrongly attributed to supposed demonic possession, but didn't realize that acknowledging that within her book would go one further the harmful stereotypes that started it in the first place. Personally, I love demons in fiction media. They have a lot of interpretations and I don't see the particularly fantasy based ones being any more harmful than say... a troll or a psychically powered human teenager. But you walk a very fine line when you start applying them into a realistic world under "realistic" rules.
I agree with you. I think it’s fine to have exorcism in fiction especially when the story has real demons and stuff. It’s very… fantastical and most people don’t take it seriously. As for the real thing, again I feel most people nowadays don’t take it too seriously though I do agree that talking about it’s gross history and how mental illnesses/disorders are represented in media are important to talk about.
It also ties way to close to why despite exorcists exiting even its barely one, because of th past of mentally ,eem, and exorcisms and that blame on demons, hell even now some church "councelors" not nessesary catholic, but still, say youu are posessed by demons. Its really too sensitive ho still mntal disorders an co are blamed on demons by people. As weird as it sounds.
Fictionalized exorcism Is fine but the catholic church still very much does exorcisms in the old fashioned way as is portrayed in this book. To those outside the faith it is harmless but if it was picked up in a catholic circle it would in fact reinforce that the real life practice of exorcisms still done are good and correct reactions. It definitely depends on context though, I quite like most exorcisms done in media especially when they have juicy metaphorical meanings
@@Briar_Bear The official Catholic doctrine straight from the Vatican is to first rule out EVERY single scientific reason. That includes a psychologist, medication, a neurologist, carbon monoxide checking at the house, therapy, etc. They don't want the legal liability of ignoring a physical or mental illness or a disorder, and while I haven't dug deep enough to get a copy of their exorcism manual in a language I can read, I know that they have very specific don'ts for exorcizing. I'm actually very alarmed that a lot of people who are Catholic don't know that the "exorcisms" that we hear about are very, very definitely not following Vatican protocol that's been around since IIRC 1950s and re-issued in the 1970s after one of those non-authorized "exorcisms" killed someone. (again)
I don't personally have DID but I love the portrayal of Crazy Jane in the show "Doom Patrol". At first glance you see her and you think, "oh, she has DID and each 'personality' has super powers, how *original*". But she's really fleshed out in heartbreaking ways. You see her younger self being tortured in an exorcism, you learn what horrible trauma caused her to become like this, you see how hard she and her personalities work to protect the inner child. It's clear that her trauma is a serious disability, and seeing her finally finding a friend/ father figure in Brendan Fraser's Robotman is great
I think the hair dye you got was actually the water that the infamous "white and gold/blue and black dress" was washed in, or the pigments from making it. It looks cool btw.
As an ex Catholic, you're basically right on the guilt thing. I would add that the rite of confession adds some lovely complexity -- you're supposed to own up to your sins, and after confessing you're supposed to never do it again, it isn't a valid confession otherwise. But how are you supposed to explain furry futa inflation art to dear father Patrick? So you keep the sin inside, knowing you're supposed to confess, knowing you're supposed to be working towards a state of not indulging in the sin, KNOWING that God KNOWS all of this, and god, you could really go for an image of rouge the bat blowing up like a balloon right about now. Or maybe self flagellation. Probably both.
lolol, gonna get a lil tmi on you, but I figure I'm in good company. As a former catholic I frequently wonder if my upbringing of being taught that masturbation is wrong, sex before marriage is wrong, looking at porn is wrong, thinking about porn is wrong, on and on and on... I wonder if my brain now associates that feeling of "oh no, this is wrong and gross" with "hey, this is pretty hot," bc I get turned on by the WEIRDEST stuff sometimes.
I'm with you on the hair. I've had red dye that turned out purple, purple that turned out blue, blue that turned out multiple shades of green and green that went a sort of pale cyan after 2 weeks. As long as the end result is a pretty colour I'll take it.
When it comes to exorcisms, the Catholic Church believes that possesses can happen, but it’s SUPER rare. So rare, that an ordinary priest isn’t trained to do exorcisms. And when there is a report, there’s a full on investigation. The bishop and the trained exorcist will work with a psychologist to determine if it’s actually an illness. And it’s a million to one chance (I don’t know if that’s actually the right number) of it being a mental health problem
It also isn’t public knowledge who are exorcists in the Church. There is one in every diocese, but that knowledge is withheld from the public so people don’t try to dodge the processes in place to protect people who are not actually possessed.
@@Waspinmymind I can agree and disagree. As someone from a culture/religion that’s greatly misrepresented in media and gaslit by two major religions I can understand people wanting it to be accurate. On the other hand it’s the Catholic Church and they don’t really deserve any positive representation 😂
As someone raised Catholic who went to Catholic schools all the way from kindergarten to high school... I wouldn't put it past them to know about the demonic thing but just cover it up, or be so oblivious to all of it that they just say it's More Punishment or something. Catholic high school was one of the most unholy things I've ever experienced... now I'm gay and nonbinary and still catching myself preparing to pray before a meal if my family actually sits down together for one LMAOOO
You quickly became one of my favorite booktubers. I love how you addressed the horrible portrayal of schizophrenia- it’s really sad so many people don’t realize that schizophrenics are probably more afraid of /them/. My aunt has paranoid schizophrenia and can sometimes misinterpret peoples discomfort as anger which then makes her scared. I can’t imagine someone acting like she of all people is the one who’s going to hurt them.
Listen, i know youre saying 'exorcising demons', but the mental image of 'exercising demons' is just too good. Like shes running a demon spin class. Wheres that ya book? Also, another great video!!
Demon aerobics class honestly sounds like something I'd be interested in seeing. I'm picturing a sexy nun in a thighs-and-leotard version of their usual getup acting like an 80's aerobics coach you got in the 90's right after the midday infomercial hour aired, and a class of succubi and incubi working out on a set decorated by the same guys who did rock and roll concert stages.
I would love to hear your take on the splintered trilogy by A.G. Howard. the shitty alice in wonderland YA fantasy/romance love triangle series I was obsessed with in middle school, and theres. um. a LOT to talk about how poorly they handled mental illness.
Ooo yes! I read book 1 and I couldn’t even finish book 2. The love interest (Jeb, I think?) turned me away. Yeah, that series treats mental illnesses horribly.
@@Moony1568 honestly both love interests are bad but I was obsessed w the moth guy in middle school. Reread the first book recently and I can't believe how ridiculous he is. He's like what if an edgy edward-cullen-esque creepy love interest guy had blue hair and pronouns
I have a friend with DID, caused by religious trauma from the heavily fundamentalist denomination she was raised in. She was exorcised multiple times as a child, and only remembered this recently. Only when she mentioned it jokingly and we all went straight to “oh my god I’m so sorry” did she abruptly remember what it had actually felt like, because DID is designed to hide the trauma from you. I don’t think she remembers the exorcisms now. I think her brain hid it from her again. And from what I heard when she first unlocked those memories, I hope against hope that she never gets them back. There is nothing in them worth remembering. I pray to anything and everything that might hear me that this will stop sooner rather than later, because for the love of god this *needs* to stop. We need to *make* this stop.
Yay DID stereotypes. Gotta love it. /sar I have DID, and it's unfortunate how people miss the amazing story potential of something like DID, and just fall back on harmful stereotypes.
So we never really went to church but growing up my mom and her 5 brothers all went to catholic school. My favorite story about my mom was how when she was in like 2nd grade the nuns at her school went from the traditional full nun look to a more modern one and she ran home crying to my grandma that " The nuns have hair and legs!" I guess she thought they floated and their wimple (is that it?) was their hair? In high school the nuns had tunnels connecting their convent to the high school and would drive scooters through them instead of walking and my mom and her friends were terrors and would take the scooters and drive them from one end to the opposite end of the tunnels. Ps. congrats on getting a sponsor!!
As a teen, most of my friends were guys, but my best friend was a girl. In fact, I feel like when another girl entered our friendship sphere, we formed bonds with them more quickly because of our shared experience of being in mostly male dominated spaces! What can I say, I've always loved other girls.
I haven’t watched the video, but I wanted to throw this out here: religion based fiction (which I’m assuming based on the title) is super weird. Not because of the religion, but purely because of the author. A Catholic teen exorcist? As a Catholic who went to a Catholic school, this is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard! Like, really?
As someone who use to be religious. The way I wrote fiction changed as I moved away from it. Religion is a part of people’s personal beliefs. Witch often affects what people write.
Fellow Catholic here, and yeah. I can see this being done well *if* the author had other characters react appropriately (i.e. "you can't be doing this! you're not qualified!") and actually wrote it the way a Catholic school would function... but that might be too much to hope for from a little-known YA author 🤷♀️
wonderful video! Rest well and I can't wait for the next ( Actually I can and will happily wait). You find the strangest books and you make me want to hunt down some old weird bad books to read as well
Exorcism as a practice was almost out of the public consciousness until The Exorcist hit theaters. Of course mentally ill people were being tortured in all sorts of other ways, but this just added more issues.
Hey Crow. Raised Catholic here, in fact my grandpa was a well respected deacon and member of the Knights of Columbus. Exorcisms are extremely rare and you have to jump through a lot of hoops to even get considered for one. You can see that in some paranormal shows like A Haunting. The Annalise Michel case was partly why exorcisms became more restricted and for only the most extreme cases where all else failed. Of course that’s not without reason- Michel struggled with her mental health for years. In the end she died from malnutrition after over 60 exorcisms. For anyone unfamiliar with her case, yes, Michel’s parents and the priests were charged for negligent homicide. Exorcisms sound cool as hell in a movie though ngl So yeah as far as guilt goes… It is a thing that happens. Some people do grow up completely ashamed of sex or believe it’s for procreation only but that’s not an explicitly Catholic thing. Any extreme Christian (or probably any religious person in general) would experience some degree of shame related to sexuality. Can’t speak on everyone’s behalf though partly because everyone’s family/ congregation handles things differently and also partly because I haven’t been in a Catholic church since my first communion when i was was 12 lol
Not related to the video, but have you heard of the Shadow Falls series by CC Hunter? It’s like the author read Twilight and asked “but what if it was in a summer camp?” I mostly need validation that this wasn’t a fever dream I had when I was 11.
Thanks for calling out the autism! It's always nice to hear a fellow autistic person call that shit out for what it is. God, did your school ever make you read "The Curious Case of the Dog in the Night Time", I think it was called? I don't remember much about it other than it felt so stereotypical (the MC is autistic)
i think to separate herself from SJM she should bring back the first book's villain to life and then have her be the twist love interest in the third book
Someone recommended your Save the Pearls video to me (based on the amazing thumbnail) and I had no idea a second book existed. I love a good trainwreck of a book, it's fascinating to me what authorial and editorial choices makes for a bad story. Thank you for suffering through I MEAN READING these and sharing your thoughts. But even more so, thank you for discussing what makes aspects of the book BAD, ie how DID and schizophrenia are used in this story, the racism and colonialism in Save the Pearls, or the implications of human pets in Perfected. Totally subscribed, looking forward to finishing your back catalog and seeing what you post next! Question: have you ever read Miranda Leak's "Twisted?" It's probably a little more infamous as far as bad/weird books go, but I think the awfulness is more contained in how the characters treat one another than the fantastical setting. Finally, COOL SHIRT, and also hello fellow autism-haver, and while I still need to watch your video about them I think your paper art is really neat!
Your hair looks like the sky at dawn when a really nasty storm is rolling in!!!! (I mean this as a compliment i hope it feels that way for you lmao) ALSO idk if you are a McElroy fan but there is an INCREDIBLE bit about HandDog and FaceCat you should look up if youve never heard/seen it...makes "cat with human eyes" EVEN WORSE
Crow caller starting to look like an old woman doing reading clubs of the most fucked up books. Imagining my grandma explaining furries to me at our weekly book club. Looks great though! I love it!
Fun fact, I know people who have worked in the mental health field, and even people who were previously atheist can (and, from what I’ve been told, do with some regularity) end up with Christianity-based delusions and psychoses when they develop schizophrenia. Best I can tell, the whole heaven/hell, god/devil, demons/angels thing is so deeply ingrained in western culture that even if you don’t believe in it in the least, if you start hearing voices you’re very likely to start hearing Christian-coded ones.
Silver is really tricky, because you need to get the bleaching JUST RIGHT, basically white. Mine ended up slightly lavender, which looked quite good actually. It also washed out to a more silvery grey later, so… :) I have very fine hair that lifts really easily, which is a proper blessing since it’s also the type of hair you CAN’T dye without bleaching it first (the dye doesn’t stick and just washes out and it’s very sad). Between the bleaching and the applying whatever colour I wanted this time, I have severe Geralt of Rivia-vibes. 😆 Anyway, I think your hair looks great.
All I will say, this works extremely well in the movie mean girls where it’s meant to be a case study on mean girls, social heirachy, and the stress and pressure put on young girls and people in general to fit in. Meant ti be an examination of those tropes that other media falls into and does without even realizing how harmful or shaming it is.
PFF- right after you said she’s a watcher, I couldn’t imaging the main character as something else then a minecraft character from the old series EVO 😭
"Is this what Catholic guilt is? Are they just ashamed of... Being horny...?" As someone who grew up religiously, that is an all-caps YES. ESPECIALLY for women. Getting yourself off (pardon my crude language) is a sin, and looking at someone and feeling sexually attracted to them is also considered sin ("sinning in your heart"). This leads to people with Catholic and/or general Christian upbringings to feel deeply guilty about these natural functions, because they are condemned in their religion. It is a HUGE problem within Christian circles, especially with folks who grew up in Christian homes, as this frame of mind is basically all that they've been taught, and all that they know.
Former Catholic, can confirm the guilt. My only critique is it could apply to more than just traditionally sinful stuff. The Simpsons gag of a nun going "if you're happy and you know it, that's a sin" is not as exaggerated as I'd like it to be. It can get very 'how dare you experience joy when others are suffering ' which is Not Fun™, and a large number of former and current Catholics I know have anxiety problems as a result. How strong the guilt is depends on the strictness of the individual church, but as this is a Catholic school, it's probably kinda strong
12:13 yup, yup, yup, 100% catholic guilt. I decided I was an atheist before I was every masturbating but I still had the “all my dead ancestors are watching me in disgust” thing in the back of my head until I was an adult
I hope that one day you get the absolute… uh experience of reading “Quarantine” by Lex Thomas, I read it back in high school and it is a mess by every possible metric. It follows a bunch of teens who get quarantined in their high school by the government after a viral infection that can only be spread by teens and if it comes in contact with an adult they vomit up all their organs and die. Would LOVE to see your review because NO ONE ELSE knows of this batshit crazy novel!!!
I looked up the author and it turns out that I have read something by her. "Ten" is one of the worst books I've ever read in my life. It's a short read. Though it's been years, I'd love to see it torn into if it catches your fancy.
Ok, five minutes into this video and it sounds STRONGLY reminiscent (or inspired by) Meg Cabot’s Mediator series, which I read as a preteen and remember liking. Down to the dead dad who’s still around and the catholic’s school monsignor-turned-exorcism-mentor.
First of all, congrats on the sponsor! Second, the fact that Bridget is supposed to be half Chinese but the story does nothing to emphasize her Chinese ethnicity is such a product of its time it annoys me. The Mara Dyer series (that I admit I only read the first book of) was the same way, Mara was supposed to be half Indian but the writing wouldn't tell you that bc it's written with no ethinc markers and Mara had no mention Indian features. Now, as a monoracial (?) Black person I know I can only say so much but I can point out how making biracial kids written by white authors only focusing on the white side of their family while their non-white side goes ignored is a problem. Edit: it would have been cool to see a biracial girl use Irish and Chinese exorcism practices to fight the forces of evil but that would require research. Plus I looked at the reviews on goodreads and why was Bridget described as having blue eyes and curly hair when she's half Chinese?? The author should have just made her white for all that
Oops, there's a slight issue at 6:30 where an AtlasVPN logo flashes up for a few seconds. Quite aware of the mistake. I can't actually reupload TH-cam videos so I can't fix it, but here's my comment so you don't have to comment 😅 I'm not trying to subliminally message you, though I am thankful for the sponsor. I'm definitely a professional who is ready for this.
I blame that @astrotorical guy
Being haunted by the ghost of capitalism lol
Maybe you can charge them extra for that :D
matt is really protective of bridget, just like AtlasVPN is protective of its users.
hey, I know this is late, but I regularly dye my hair silver/gray. If you want it to turn out well, it needs to be bleached platinum blond. Silver also fades super fast, first to grey then to white, so you have to be prepared for an inconsistent color. However, it's such a cool aesthetic, natural enough to be able to wear things with it but still unique enough to signal the gays. Advice to get and keep gray is to bleach super light, use color safe hair products obviously, and find a glitter toned conditioner (often comes with silver dye) to help it not turn gray as fast.
WHAT I'M ABOUT TO DO HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY THE VATICAN
-this whole book.
FAITH reference?
Literally 😂
MOR†IS
@@Anna-B reference to horror game. Where priest separates from the Vatican to hunt demons.
If you’re super religious it’ll probably be something you loathe.
@@Waspinmymind oh really? That makes some of these comments make more sense. Though I think the comment works if taken literally, too
Thank you for acknowledging that schizophrenia and DID are shitty way how to describe killers. As schizophrenic, seeing *every single character with schizophrenia* being murderer, assaulter or inhuman monster is very hurtful and couldn't be further from the truth! Schizophrenics are, indeed, statistically 14 times more prone to being victims of violent crime than being abusers! This condition is very, very stressing and damaging on it's own and I'm not even counting the stigma and how society treats us, how we're treated as non-people who should be locked up to prevent us from "harming" others even if we're the ones who are treated horribly and inhumanely. Every single fellow schizophrenic I personally met is the most kind, non-conflict person. Please treat mentally ill people with basic human respect, even mentally ill people who have stigmatized "scary" disorders!
Thank you for bringing this issue up, keep doing what you're doing. :)
I have chronic psychosis, (haven't been diagnosed with anything) but I hate telling people because their first thought is that I'm dangerous. Bad representations can genuinely affect real people when they are exposed to them over and over.
Tbh ppl with schizophrenia in various facilities were always the kindest and warmest people
@@Angela1111122222 yeah, i feel like people who have to go through that kind of shit are more likely to be empathetic people because they understand how difficult life can be through no fault of your own.
This is also true for BPD. Haven't seen that much in fiction, but online a lot. Like do you expect me to keep my cool around you, while you are treating me like a horrible manipulator? But if I get angry that's suddenly my fault and I'm feeding into your narrative... like of course my disorder is hard on people close to me as well, but it'll always be the worst for me. Having BPD is hell but people still judge us horribly. I wouldn't wish that on anybody...
Fact: Traumatic religious upbringings manifest the weirdest, horniest YA novels from the demon realm into our Earthly plane.
Catholic here chiming in: EXORCISMS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE VIOLENT. The actual Rite (fancy word for "the words & actions of a ceremony") of Exorcism is legitimately just a priest speaking some words and prayers over someone. I've read it-someone doing a real exorcism would not need to touch someone at all, let alone harm them. The torture and beatings and violence we've seen historically are JUST awful people on a power trip, not at all reflective of the real practice (regardless of whether you believe there are any demons there to remove.)
To add to that as an apatheist (so I have 0 dogs in that fight, in case a weirdo ever drops by to say you're being an apologist or something, I just learned it while doing research for my Devilman and JoJo fanfics):
There's also REALLY STRICT RULES for when to go for the exorcism that the Vatican set up SPECIFICALLY to try to prevent abuse: you're supposed to have ruled out every other condition, medical or environmental; from carbon monoxide poisoning to weird electrical appliances stuff to infrasounds to a neurologist to psychologist to therapist... you get the idea, basically the exorcism is supposed to be considered the nuclear option.
me, a student at bridgets school: oh boy haha looks like someone turned all the crucifixes in the school church upside down, what an exciting new way to worship god! I'm so glad there are no secret demon summonings going on here :)
upside down crosses are actually not demonic despite the way they are portrayed in media lol, they are connected to saint peter
@@nikkim7038 Jup, because Pete was crucified upside down.
Why, there is a whole conspiracy theory.
Anyways. The real satanic cross looks so much cooler, I don't know why media doesn't use it more often.
@@nikkim7038 Yeah but try to get that piece of pop-christianity out of their mouths, I swear they're worse than a dog eating PhDs once they're handed something they can make a bogeyman out of. The snake getting conflated with Satan, Satan being conflated with Lucifer, stealing the whole "rebels against God after being told to bow to Adam" from Islam's backstory for Iblis when Lucifer HAS NO FREE WILL AS AN ANGEL while Iblis, as a djinn, did...
And let's not start on Dante's circles and Milton woobifying Lucifer.
I always picture someone acting like a personal trainer, "exercising" the demons.
"Thirty more pushups or else I get the holy water."
Crossfit
as someone with DID, I love and appreciate that you addressed the misuse of DID and schizophrenia! no one ever talks about it and it means a lot to us
Honestly, I hate how people forget it’s a trauma disorder and act like systems are all dangerous, violent abusers with secret “personalities” who’ll do anything to harm them
Hello! We have DID too!!!! Just popping in to give a howdy
@@crotalinae.serpentes 'give a howdy' is my new favorite phrase. Thanks for that :)
@Viewer There are definitely videos like this, though because most channels are really small can be hard to find. We're kind of picky about the media analysis, but we remember enjoying The Entropy System's media series. Collective Mind DID also has recently started a series, and we've enjoyed their analysis videos. And not media analysis but we really love The Rings System for their educational, straightforward, short explanation videos that go over various concepts.
@@crotalinae.serpentes ~We~
Well, there is the answer to the riddle, as to why DID is such a fucking mess of a concept. People (singular individuals that is) just insist on being special way to much.
Good job 'you guys'. Well done (to all of you)
I grew up in Catholicism, so I’m 100% sure they noticed the demon thing, but pretended it wasn’t there to avoid the scandal.
And yeah the Catholic guilt is legit. Still trying to undo it at 30, despite not having been Catholic since I was 14.
The dead dad in the dead cat ghost sounds like the most cursed Detective Pikachu bootleg ever.
As someone who grew up with a parent who believed in Christian science, and as someone who's been dealing with mental illnesses for most of my life, thank you for pointing out the connection between mental health and religious abuse. Obviously, religion can be a great coping skill for some people, but there are more conservative religious doctrines that basically are just like "depressed? Demons. Manic? Demons. Flashbacks? Demons. Gay? Double demons." And that attitude makes everything worse.
Yeah, as someone who was raised Catholic by fairly devout parents, I have nothing against religion when it's clearly used positively to support people, especially in times of need, but there's often this underlining ignorance that people just seem to get---comfortable in. Attributing everything that happens to either God or demons is so frustrating. Problems don't just get prayed away. To me, it's like, what's the point of saying God gave humans free will if you're not going to use it to make good decisions for yourself? I doubt he meant sit on your ass and ignore all scientific reasoning in favor of demonizing everything you don't understand. Or maybe he did, what do I know? Maybe you do have not one, but TWO demons when you're gay🙄. I should probs call an exorcist for myself now.
@@joyc.e.7511 The most ironic thing is that like... Okay so I did a deep dive into Christianity, Catholicism, the Vatican, exorcism, demonology, Christian occultic traditions from the medieval period, etc. (I'm still deep diving but my focus rn is on the early Old Testament denominations that got wiped from memory (or almost wiped) for being "heretical" to the Orthodoxy)
The Vatican literally has guidelines to rule out ALL MEDICAL POSSIBILITIES before considering demonic influence, and IIRC they've had that out since at least the 1950s and they made a BIG DEAL of it. It's supposed to be COMMON PROCEDURE to try literally everything scientific before resorting to the spiritual according to the Big Guys At The Top of the clergy.
And that's because most of the sciences were fathered by people that the Vatican recognizes as men of God. Sciences were literally justified by the Church as a spiritual calling to understand God by understanding what he made.
It blows my mind as an apatheist that people don't even...Check what their scholarly experts say? Why do *I* care more about their faith's history, precedents, and guidance than the people who claim that faith? How is it that *I* know more about the protocols for when an exorcism is required than literally the people who do the exorcisms?
It's just so weirdly *unnerving* to be aware of that ignorance people have about their own faith.
Stupid to quote a game character, but Ulysses' line strikes me as apt, there: "Who are you, you who do not know your own history?"
@@neoqwerty I think it has to do with it being easier to just go straight to demons as the problem. In a way it becomes out of their hands and they don't have to take any personal accountability because a demon did it. They WANT to leave things to God.
“Boy like numbers and trains and not speak good.” 😭 bad books are just so hilarious
I’m an autistic man, but the only interest I have in trains is the light rail I ride to get around town. I am so thoroughly weary of the “boy-who-likes-numbers-and-trains” stereotype.
Autistic woman here, and boy math sucks xD
I am however interested in machines. Guns tho instead of trains.
@@toolatetothestory That I can respect. A gun interest would definitely be useful in a post apocalyptic story. LOL Seriously, though, I can only imagine the intricate work that goes into working on guns. I'm not good with anything mechanical.
@@yogsothoth8389 Oh I am not exactly good with mechanics either, barely had any training, but I like to look over the different types, details that make them unique, where they are used and why they aren't used elsewhere, which ones are better for what purpose etc.
My favourite is the QSB 91. It's kinda ridiculous, but I love it. Knife Guns are awesome xD
@@yogsothoth8389 Love your username btw! Even if the King in Yellow would be my personal favourite ;3
@@toolatetothestory All Hail the King!💛
hi Crow, i'm Raven and i have DID. a lot of people don't understand and don't care to understand the horror that has to take place in a child's life to cause it. so thank you for taking the time to educate and clear up the misconceptions that We and people like Us are inherently violent or scary or dangerous. we just want to live and be safe.
edit: that shirt is awesome
Ah yes, a crow and a raven.
Behold, the Corvids.
Trauma is how it happens naturally 🍃 , but I wonder if it is possible to cause it without it 🤔.
I used to have DID. Then we fused when I was around 8-9. I find it wild people with DID are usually portrayed as violent, because I'm not sure who would be scared of toddler me just because they ended up being so badly traumatized that the original host retreated deep into their mind and went to sleep for years while their guardian fronted. How is it that children with DID aren't scary, but adults are? I think they just don't know that children with DID exist tbh. If they did then maybe they'd question how stupid this trope is.
@@ettaetta439 you did not have DID as a child that young. one does not "once have" DID and then "fuze" better. it is a permanent, life long disability. either you're lying or you were lied to.
@@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana no, trauma is an inherent part of DID. nothing short of an event that a child (under the age of 8) does not believe they will survive that causes it. a child with no such trauma has no reason to create an alter.
These videos continue to be some of my favorite to craft along to!
RE: Catholic guilt, yep, you got it. It's also super weird because you go from NEVER HAVE SEX OR MARY AND GOD WILL CRY to GO HAVE SEX IMMEDIATELY after there's a marriage. Catholic weddings are weird.
Also, tw religious trauma, mental health:
Thank you for talking about the issues with exorcisms irl. I was never actually exorcised (unlike some of my friends, one of whom had DID), but I was threatened with it while in a psych ward, leading to a psychotic break, and it's definitely not helpful to be told, when seeking help for paranoid delusions, "oh, no, that's real, you've sinned (somehow, figure it out) and demons are Going To Get You." It was horrible because I would get locked into a vicious cycle of self loathing and fear where I would pray more to try to be Good, but my mental health was only getting worse and I would be more terrified. Also, a weird number of Catholics are like oh yeah the closer you get to God the worse you'll feel (dark night of the soul and all), which does not help
I'm doing a lot better now, but even now a lot of ooooo spooky demon media really fucks with me. Especially after studying a lot of history of medicine, it's more tragic than spooky, and I feel a deep grief for people who werent able to escape the religious framing and reach a better sense of management and reality.
One last side note, also props for discussing autism rep!
Anyway, this channel is amazing, and thank you so much!
Thank you for talking about schizophrenia and DID. I have DID, but more notably, a relative of mine has both. She has been exorcised before by our more religious relatives, which didn't work obviously, so she's still continuously shamed by them for needing help. She's elderly and has been in some form of treatment for most of her life, but many of her doctors and therapists have been unwilling to accommodate even one of her conditions, let alone both. It's frustrating to see the misunderstandings and biases against these disorders get perpetuated in media without anyone seeming to give a shit about how it hurts real people.
My brother was diagnosed with DID and he gets so upset with how the media constantly portrays it as something always villainous and evil - thank you for being so educated on it and speaking out against the misuse (: ! I always enjoy your vids! P.s. I especially love that you added people with DID are almost never perpetrators of violence but rather victims of it- very very true.
Honestly DID is creepier as a good thing 😂😂😂.
So the media isn’t even doing a good job on the story front.
this was a great video and i appreciate that you spoke about the harmful portrayals of DID and schizophrenia in media. i also wanted to add my own personal funniest wardrobe atrocity. from a fanfic i wrote in 2012; the main character showed up to her first day at a new school wearing a purple and white striped top, brown khakis, and red and black plaid converse. all the main characters of the show instantly tell her how cute she looks.
Life was different back then
I mean that's just how 2012 was
MF dressing like a scottish Undertale protagonist.
I have to disagree a little on the exorcism thing; in my opinion, if it's pretty far divorced from reality, like what you see in The Sandman or Mob Psycho 100, it can be a fine fantasy thing to include in your story. Having people be possessed by demons or ghosts and the heroes have to save them isn't inherently a bad concept. The main problem with this book imo lies in how it ties demonic possession so closely to DID; they explicitly say that the way demonic possession occurs could be mistaken for DID. That's just my feeling, though; I think it's valid to find the concept in media distasteful.
I agree. I think the author really strayed too far into the "realism" of Catholic exorcism without taking into account the harm that practice has caused to many throughout history. It's clear that she was *aware* that schizophrenia and DID were wrongly attributed to supposed demonic possession, but didn't realize that acknowledging that within her book would go one further the harmful stereotypes that started it in the first place.
Personally, I love demons in fiction media. They have a lot of interpretations and I don't see the particularly fantasy based ones being any more harmful than say... a troll or a psychically powered human teenager. But you walk a very fine line when you start applying them into a realistic world under "realistic" rules.
I agree with you. I think it’s fine to have exorcism in fiction especially when the story has real demons and stuff. It’s very… fantastical and most people don’t take it seriously. As for the real thing, again I feel most people nowadays don’t take it too seriously though I do agree that talking about it’s gross history and how mental illnesses/disorders are represented in media are important to talk about.
It also ties way to close to why despite exorcists exiting even its barely one, because of th past of mentally ,eem, and exorcisms and that blame on demons, hell even now some church "councelors" not nessesary catholic, but still, say youu are posessed by demons.
Its really too sensitive ho still mntal disorders an co are blamed on demons by people. As weird as it sounds.
Fictionalized exorcism Is fine but the catholic church still very much does exorcisms in the old fashioned way as is portrayed in this book. To those outside the faith it is harmless but if it was picked up in a catholic circle it would in fact reinforce that the real life practice of exorcisms still done are good and correct reactions. It definitely depends on context though, I quite like most exorcisms done in media especially when they have juicy metaphorical meanings
@@Briar_Bear The official Catholic doctrine straight from the Vatican is to first rule out EVERY single scientific reason. That includes a psychologist, medication, a neurologist, carbon monoxide checking at the house, therapy, etc. They don't want the legal liability of ignoring a physical or mental illness or a disorder, and while I haven't dug deep enough to get a copy of their exorcism manual in a language I can read, I know that they have very specific don'ts for exorcizing.
I'm actually very alarmed that a lot of people who are Catholic don't know that the "exorcisms" that we hear about are very, very definitely not following Vatican protocol that's been around since IIRC 1950s and re-issued in the 1970s after one of those non-authorized "exorcisms" killed someone. (again)
I don't personally have DID but I love the portrayal of Crazy Jane in the show "Doom Patrol".
At first glance you see her and you think, "oh, she has DID and each 'personality' has super powers, how *original*". But she's really fleshed out in heartbreaking ways. You see her younger self being tortured in an exorcism, you learn what horrible trauma caused her to become like this, you see how hard she and her personalities work to protect the inner child. It's clear that her trauma is a serious disability, and seeing her finally finding a friend/ father figure in Brendan Fraser's Robotman is great
I think the hair dye you got was actually the water that the infamous "white and gold/blue and black dress" was washed in, or the pigments from making it. It looks cool btw.
As an ex Catholic, you're basically right on the guilt thing. I would add that the rite of confession adds some lovely complexity -- you're supposed to own up to your sins, and after confessing you're supposed to never do it again, it isn't a valid confession otherwise. But how are you supposed to explain furry futa inflation art to dear father Patrick? So you keep the sin inside, knowing you're supposed to confess, knowing you're supposed to be working towards a state of not indulging in the sin, KNOWING that God KNOWS all of this, and god, you could really go for an image of rouge the bat blowing up like a balloon right about now. Or maybe self flagellation. Probably both.
How do I un-read this…..
lolol, gonna get a lil tmi on you, but I figure I'm in good company. As a former catholic I frequently wonder if my upbringing of being taught that masturbation is wrong, sex before marriage is wrong, looking at porn is wrong, thinking about porn is wrong, on and on and on... I wonder if my brain now associates that feeling of "oh no, this is wrong and gross" with "hey, this is pretty hot," bc I get turned on by the WEIRDEST stuff sometimes.
lol I really did struggle with that
Not the exact porn categories, that is, but the general sentiment
I'm with you on the hair. I've had red dye that turned out purple, purple that turned out blue, blue that turned out multiple shades of green and green that went a sort of pale cyan after 2 weeks. As long as the end result is a pretty colour I'll take it.
When it comes to exorcisms, the Catholic Church believes that possesses can happen, but it’s SUPER rare. So rare, that an ordinary priest isn’t trained to do exorcisms. And when there is a report, there’s a full on investigation. The bishop and the trained exorcist will work with a psychologist to determine if it’s actually an illness. And it’s a million to one chance (I don’t know if that’s actually the right number) of it being a mental health problem
It also isn’t public knowledge who are exorcists in the Church. There is one in every diocese, but that knowledge is withheld from the public so people don’t try to dodge the processes in place to protect people who are not actually possessed.
Tbh getting picky about a profession being unrealistic in ya is a little stupid.
It’s not trying for realism here. It’s fantasy. Sorry.
oh theres plenty of people willing to do them anyway ! just check out bob larson
@@Waspinmymind I can agree and disagree. As someone from a culture/religion that’s greatly misrepresented in media and gaslit by two major religions I can understand people wanting it to be accurate. On the other hand it’s the Catholic Church and they don’t really deserve any positive representation 😂
@@Waspinmymind tbh fantasy exorcisms are as real as real ones anyway
new hair colours unlocked: Heartgold and soulsilver
oh god, teenagers exorcism? let's call some weird kids from the dark spot in the library they maybe know somethings about that
It's so rare to hear someone out exorcisms as fake and damaging for the unwell, so thank you!
As someone raised Catholic who went to Catholic schools all the way from kindergarten to high school... I wouldn't put it past them to know about the demonic thing but just cover it up, or be so oblivious to all of it that they just say it's More Punishment or something. Catholic high school was one of the most unholy things I've ever experienced... now I'm gay and nonbinary and still catching myself preparing to pray before a meal if my family actually sits down together for one LMAOOO
"dead dad, dead cat, both have combined into one in this scenario" oh so like homestuck
Yes! Like homestuck!
You quickly became one of my favorite booktubers. I love how you addressed the horrible portrayal of schizophrenia- it’s really sad so many people don’t realize that schizophrenics are probably more afraid of /them/. My aunt has paranoid schizophrenia and can sometimes misinterpret peoples discomfort as anger which then makes her scared. I can’t imagine someone acting like she of all people is the one who’s going to hurt them.
as someone who has lost their dad, mine would absolutely choose to come back as a cat
Listen, i know youre saying 'exorcising demons', but the mental image of 'exercising demons' is just too good. Like shes running a demon spin class. Wheres that ya book?
Also, another great video!!
Demon aerobics class honestly sounds like something I'd be interested in seeing. I'm picturing a sexy nun in a thighs-and-leotard version of their usual getup acting like an 80's aerobics coach you got in the 90's right after the midday infomercial hour aired, and a class of succubi and incubi working out on a set decorated by the same guys who did rock and roll concert stages.
I would love to hear your take on the splintered trilogy by A.G. Howard. the shitty alice in wonderland YA fantasy/romance love triangle series I was obsessed with in middle school, and theres. um. a LOT to talk about how poorly they handled mental illness.
Ooo yes! I read book 1 and I couldn’t even finish book 2. The love interest (Jeb, I think?) turned me away. Yeah, that series treats mental illnesses horribly.
@@Moony1568 honestly both love interests are bad but I was obsessed w the moth guy in middle school. Reread the first book recently and I can't believe how ridiculous he is. He's like what if an edgy edward-cullen-esque creepy love interest guy had blue hair and pronouns
@@alice485-3 I'm sorry moth guy??? Do I even want to know
@@joyc.e.7511 he turns into a moth yeah
@@alice485-3 That's definitely... a choice. Usually love interests are vampires, fairies, demons, angels etc.
Heck yeah get that sponsorship money! And I like the uneven hair too, it's kinda fun
I have a friend with DID, caused by religious trauma from the heavily fundamentalist denomination she was raised in. She was exorcised multiple times as a child, and only remembered this recently. Only when she mentioned it jokingly and we all went straight to “oh my god I’m so sorry” did she abruptly remember what it had actually felt like, because DID is designed to hide the trauma from you. I don’t think she remembers the exorcisms now. I think her brain hid it from her again. And from what I heard when she first unlocked those memories, I hope against hope that she never gets them back. There is nothing in them worth remembering. I pray to anything and everything that might hear me that this will stop sooner rather than later, because for the love of god this *needs* to stop. We need to *make* this stop.
i love the silver/gold look!!! my mom has gray hair that she dyes over, and it kind of reminds me of that!!! (yes that is a compliment :3)
Oh it's so cool that you've grown to the point of getting a sponsor!
i’m so happy that you got a sponsorship!!
WOW congrats on the sponsor! Thank you for this fun video while I workout haha! ❤
Yay DID stereotypes. Gotta love it. /sar
I have DID, and it's unfortunate how people miss the amazing story potential of something like DID, and just fall back on harmful stereotypes.
As soon as I saw you had a sponsor for this video, I cheered. Get that bag! 🥳
So we never really went to church but growing up my mom and her 5 brothers all went to catholic school. My favorite story about my mom was how when she was in like 2nd grade the nuns at her school went from the traditional full nun look to a more modern one and she ran home crying to my grandma that " The nuns have hair and legs!" I guess she thought they floated and their wimple (is that it?) was their hair?
In high school the nuns had tunnels connecting their convent to the high school and would drive scooters through them instead of walking and my mom and her friends were terrors and would take the scooters and drive them from one end to the opposite end of the tunnels.
Ps. congrats on getting a sponsor!!
As a teen, most of my friends were guys, but my best friend was a girl. In fact, I feel like when another girl entered our friendship sphere, we formed bonds with them more quickly because of our shared experience of being in mostly male dominated spaces!
What can I say, I've always loved other girls.
I haven’t watched the video, but I wanted to throw this out here: religion based fiction (which I’m assuming based on the title) is super weird. Not because of the religion, but purely because of the author. A Catholic teen exorcist? As a Catholic who went to a Catholic school, this is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard! Like, really?
As someone who use to be religious. The way I wrote fiction changed as I moved away from it.
Religion is a part of people’s personal beliefs. Witch often affects what people write.
Fellow Catholic here, and yeah. I can see this being done well *if* the author had other characters react appropriately (i.e. "you can't be doing this! you're not qualified!") and actually wrote it the way a Catholic school would function... but that might be too much to hope for from a little-known YA author 🤷♀️
wonderful video! Rest well and I can't wait for the next ( Actually I can and will happily wait). You find the strangest books and you make me want to hunt down some old weird bad books to read as well
so weirdly glad to see a sponsor on this channel - get that money :)
Exorcism as a practice was almost out of the public consciousness until The Exorcist hit theaters. Of course mentally ill people were being tortured in all sorts of other ways, but this just added more issues.
I really love when my feed is graced with your presence.
I get why it's hot. Dominating someone who is themself very dominant is a thrilling role-reversal for a lot of people.
The exorcism part sucks.
Hey Crow. Raised Catholic here, in fact my grandpa was a well respected deacon and member of the Knights of Columbus.
Exorcisms are extremely rare and you have to jump through a lot of hoops to even get considered for one. You can see that in some paranormal shows like A Haunting. The Annalise Michel case was partly why exorcisms became more restricted and for only the most extreme cases where all else failed. Of course that’s not without reason- Michel struggled with her mental health for years. In the end she died from malnutrition after over 60 exorcisms.
For anyone unfamiliar with her case, yes, Michel’s parents and the priests were charged for negligent homicide.
Exorcisms sound cool as hell in a movie though ngl
So yeah as far as guilt goes… It is a thing that happens. Some people do grow up completely ashamed of sex or believe it’s for procreation only but that’s not an explicitly Catholic thing. Any extreme Christian (or probably any religious person in general) would experience some degree of shame related to sexuality. Can’t speak on everyone’s behalf though partly because everyone’s family/ congregation handles things differently and also partly because I haven’t been in a Catholic church since my first communion when i was was 12 lol
Not related to the video, but have you heard of the Shadow Falls series by CC Hunter? It’s like the author read Twilight and asked “but what if it was in a summer camp?” I mostly need validation that this wasn’t a fever dream I had when I was 11.
I absolutely loved this series when I was younger ! I'd say it's a tad better than Twilight tbh.
You do not understand how much I love that someone else read this series! Everytime I mention it, people think it's not real lol
11:26 I totally forgot the demons = horny thing while everything ELSE was happening, so somehow this one got me TWICE.
So excited every time I see a video drop!!!
not the main character having my birth name 😶🫥
Yay! I've been listening to your videos all week and was hoping last night for a new one 🥳
🤟🤟
Thanks for calling out the autism! It's always nice to hear a fellow autistic person call that shit out for what it is.
God, did your school ever make you read "The Curious Case of the Dog in the Night Time", I think it was called? I don't remember much about it other than it felt so stereotypical (the MC is autistic)
i love the look in the sponsor segment omg. you're the goth i needed in my life
i think to separate herself from SJM she should bring back the first book's villain to life and then have her be the twist love interest in the third book
that "so get this" gave me Supernatural flashbacks...dear lord
Congratulations on getting a sponsorship!!! Oh my gosh!!!
LOVE THE HAIR!!!!!
Someone recommended your Save the Pearls video to me (based on the amazing thumbnail) and I had no idea a second book existed. I love a good trainwreck of a book, it's fascinating to me what authorial and editorial choices makes for a bad story. Thank you for suffering through I MEAN READING these and sharing your thoughts. But even more so, thank you for discussing what makes aspects of the book BAD, ie how DID and schizophrenia are used in this story, the racism and colonialism in Save the Pearls, or the implications of human pets in Perfected. Totally subscribed, looking forward to finishing your back catalog and seeing what you post next!
Question: have you ever read Miranda Leak's "Twisted?" It's probably a little more infamous as far as bad/weird books go, but I think the awfulness is more contained in how the characters treat one another than the fantastical setting.
Finally, COOL SHIRT, and also hello fellow autism-haver, and while I still need to watch your video about them I think your paper art is really neat!
These excerpts are just punctuated with a vineboom in my head on every sentence sometimes.
you keep posting these and I keep eating it up
This is absolutely one of my favourite accounts... I just feel like this is exactly my wavelength.
I’m really loving how much of your personality is in this video. You are a lab absolute delight.
Your hair looks like the sky at dawn when a really nasty storm is rolling in!!!! (I mean this as a compliment i hope it feels that way for you lmao)
ALSO idk if you are a McElroy fan but there is an INCREDIBLE bit about HandDog and FaceCat you should look up if youve never heard/seen it...makes "cat with human eyes" EVEN WORSE
you are probably already aware of this, but the pigeon in the outro is so cute!!
i love your vids so much and i always get excited when i see a notification from you!!!
Crow caller starting to look like an old woman doing reading clubs of the most fucked up books. Imagining my grandma explaining furries to me at our weekly book club. Looks great though! I love it!
Can’t wait to see your channel BLOW up you have great analysis Crow Caller!!
Hahah the hair is very relatable if not the prettiest thing ever 😂 I've come to really look forward to your videos, can't wait 👌
According to scripture, all those who make deals with demons will eventually be turned on by them
I scrolled past this before I got the joke... nice one lmao
Fun fact, I know people who have worked in the mental health field, and even people who were previously atheist can (and, from what I’ve been told, do with some regularity) end up with Christianity-based delusions and psychoses when they develop schizophrenia. Best I can tell, the whole heaven/hell, god/devil, demons/angels thing is so deeply ingrained in western culture that even if you don’t believe in it in the least, if you start hearing voices you’re very likely to start hearing Christian-coded ones.
i click so fast on ur videos i just love ur breakdowns
Silver is really tricky, because you need to get the bleaching JUST RIGHT, basically white.
Mine ended up slightly lavender, which looked quite good actually. It also washed out to a more silvery grey later, so… :)
I have very fine hair that lifts really easily, which is a proper blessing since it’s also the type of hair you CAN’T dye without bleaching it first (the dye doesn’t stick and just washes out and it’s very sad). Between the bleaching and the applying whatever colour I wanted this time, I have severe Geralt of Rivia-vibes. 😆
Anyway, I think your hair looks great.
All I will say, this works extremely well in the movie mean girls where it’s meant to be a case study on mean girls, social heirachy, and the stress and pressure put on young girls and people in general to fit in. Meant ti be an examination of those tropes that other media falls into and does without even realizing how harmful or shaming it is.
Congrats on 15k subscribers!
PFF- right after you said she’s a watcher, I couldn’t imaging the main character as something else then a minecraft character from the old series EVO 😭
SAME
Omg I love the headband and choker combo
love the hair! congrats on sponsor
"Is this what Catholic guilt is? Are they just ashamed of... Being horny...?" As someone who grew up religiously, that is an all-caps YES. ESPECIALLY for women. Getting yourself off (pardon my crude language) is a sin, and looking at someone and feeling sexually attracted to them is also considered sin ("sinning in your heart"). This leads to people with Catholic and/or general Christian upbringings to feel deeply guilty about these natural functions, because they are condemned in their religion. It is a HUGE problem within Christian circles, especially with folks who grew up in Christian homes, as this frame of mind is basically all that they've been taught, and all that they know.
I also tried to dye my hair silver recently and it ended up blue and faded to a sea green, lol :P silver is pretty hard to get right!
A sponsor already!!!! Congrats!!
Shout out to my fellow autistic train enjoyers! Bring back public rail!
Not autistic, but I support trains as public transit.
Former Catholic, can confirm the guilt. My only critique is it could apply to more than just traditionally sinful stuff. The Simpsons gag of a nun going "if you're happy and you know it, that's a sin" is not as exaggerated as I'd like it to be. It can get very 'how dare you experience joy when others are suffering ' which is Not Fun™, and a large number of former and current Catholics I know have anxiety problems as a result. How strong the guilt is depends on the strictness of the individual church, but as this is a Catholic school, it's probably kinda strong
“The people who all danced to death that one time” live that we all know that enough for it to be an offhand comment
12:13 yup, yup, yup, 100% catholic guilt. I decided I was an atheist before I was every masturbating but I still had the “all my dead ancestors are watching me in disgust” thing in the back of my head until I was an adult
sophie moment with that hair
Insane that I was going to write a book with the SAME premise when I was in grade 10 😭 I should sue
If you want to learn about how the Church deals with exorcisms, it has said that the movie The Exorcist is pretty accurate!
I hope that one day you get the absolute… uh experience of reading “Quarantine” by Lex Thomas, I read it back in high school and it is a mess by every possible metric. It follows a bunch of teens who get quarantined in their high school by the government after a viral infection that can only be spread by teens and if it comes in contact with an adult they vomit up all their organs and die. Would LOVE to see your review because NO ONE ELSE knows of this batshit crazy novel!!!
Singlets talking about DID/OSDD almost always goes horribly so thank you for not demonising our disorder :)
I looked up the author and it turns out that I have read something by her. "Ten" is one of the worst books I've ever read in my life. It's a short read. Though it's been years, I'd love to see it torn into if it catches your fancy.
wake up babe new crow caller post!!!!!!
Ok, five minutes into this video and it sounds STRONGLY reminiscent (or inspired by) Meg Cabot’s Mediator series, which I read as a preteen and remember liking. Down to the dead dad who’s still around and the catholic’s school monsignor-turned-exorcism-mentor.
Dead dad possessing dead cat sounds like something that would have happened in Homestuck
9 months late but I dig the Targaryen vibes of the hair. Almost exactly what I imagine when reading "pale silver-gold hair"
at worst im just giving you engagement because you might have noticed, but the atlasvpn graphic shows up for seemingly no reason around the 6:30 mark
Oh bugger, I missed. It's a left over from when the ad read was much much longer and the graphic lined up.
First of all, congrats on the sponsor!
Second, the fact that Bridget is supposed to be half Chinese but the story does nothing to emphasize her Chinese ethnicity is such a product of its time it annoys me. The Mara Dyer series (that I admit I only read the first book of) was the same way, Mara was supposed to be half Indian but the writing wouldn't tell you that bc it's written with no ethinc markers and Mara had no mention Indian features.
Now, as a monoracial (?) Black person I know I can only say so much but I can point out how making biracial kids written by white authors only focusing on the white side of their family while their non-white side goes ignored is a problem.
Edit: it would have been cool to see a biracial girl use Irish and Chinese exorcism practices to fight the forces of evil but that would require research. Plus I looked at the reviews on goodreads and why was Bridget described as having blue eyes and curly hair when she's half Chinese?? The author should have just made her white for all that