A review on the voge 500 dsx Kindly loaned by southampton motorcycles www.southampto... PLEASE LIKE SHARE AND SUBSCRIBE THANKS :) Music by bensound.com voge 500ds review
I own the 500Ds Euro 4 for 1,5 years. Satisfied with it and enjoying commuting or traveling. And it was almost 1500 euros cheaper than the Honda. Better brakes and suspension, more playful engine, and the full traveling equipment with the aluminum cases. Since I do not intend to sell it soon, I think it was a better choice for me. 10.000 km without any issue so far. Greetings from Greece!
Well after 4 years of ownership I don’t think that CB500X is that much better. It is not made in Japan. Especially now compared to the 525DSX. It is not just the VFM anymore. If you like the Honda, buy the Honda. If you like the Voge, take the Voge. What makes you to want to ride more! I don’t care for the manufacturer. I’m not a fanatic of any firm. Just sayin’…
Hi Mark hope you're well. Great review and progress is clearly being made.There are many plus points on this Voge but unfortunately the major disadvantage is the 3k service intervals. If you bought the cb500x it would of course be £600 more expensive but with the Honda needing to be serviced twice up to 16k miles compared to the Voge's five times and the undoubtedly higher residual value of the Honda three years later the Chinese bike would be the more expensive option. It's not quite the bargain it seems at first.
Thank you for the reply. With the chinese trying to get into the market 3k service intervals just aren't going to cut it. As Mark says in his video the engine is similiar to the CB500 engine so why would it need servicing every 3k?
In Greece, you would need more than 1500€ for a CB500X with the amount of equipment the Voge 500DS has, which is quite a big difference for a bike which is extremely similar. As for the service intervals, the CB500X is every 6000 kilometers and the Voge 500DS is every 5000 kilometers. And of course, the parts for the Honda are more expensive. The CB500X has been proven reliable and that is something that the Voge 500DS has to prove for itself in the coming years.
Hi I own the 500dsx and it’s a great wee bike I’ve had 1250 bandit and Versys 1000 but I prefer the Voge such a good looking comfy bike Chinese bikes are the in thing at the moment go out and buy one
Great review mark,I have to say it blows the competition out of the water,its about £1500 cheaper it's got nisin brakes kyb forks and a TFT display.and also looks great.i know where my money would go.
Well done yet again Mark, very entertaining and you give the impression the 'days of finding fault with Chinese bikes' might be over! Certainly their prices are bewitching, not surprisingly!!!
Great to see a town environment review where motorcycles often go. Well done Mark! Unfortunately we don’t get these in Australia 🤦♂️ Otherwise, great cheap bike. How would it compare in build quality with the likes of CFMoto?
Hello! Bought this as my first bike. What I have experienced woth this was at first this was a very good beginners bike (for me) as it was very easy to handle. U-turns is very easy compared to the school bikes I rode before getting my license, crawl speed is easy, good sitting position, excellent acceleration and smooth on uneven roads and surfaces. The bike sounds aggressive and playful and it is as I discovered fun to ride on the sideroads as it is aggressive and sport like in the turns. When you just need a nice ride it's also comfortable and you can use higher gears for touring and thus comfortable on the highway. This summer I took my Voge out on a fishing trip in the woods and the offroad capabilities was pleasant enough but the foot pegs is a bit slim so a broader variant is recommended for longer periods of standing uprite and the foot brake pedal should be adjusted so it is not so far down from the pegs. Back to on asphalt riding the bike is heavy but it feels much lighter and smaller than it is and for a new rider like me it felt less intimidating as a first bike to ride compared to other adv bikes. The only complaints I have so far is that over 90 KM/H it has a lot of vibration and I have been wondering of there is any vibration dampening add-ons for the handlebars. The other complaint is that in lower speeds like crawling speed the throttle is to sensitive compared to other bikes I have ridden on. It's hard to maintain a constant speed for me at least on this I first gear under 20 KM/H and thus it is bit uneven and shaky or snappy. Spareparts is only available at OEM dealers for now since it is so new and topboxes and sidebags are a bit hard to find (in Norway at least) and thus the few options are more expensive than I wanted it to be. So for me as it is now I could summarize my experience with this bike as followed : If you are looking for your first bike for commuting and longer trips in a lower price range Voge is the bike for you. It's a good bike for its price range and you get alot for the money. LED screen, Premium brakes, good shocks and a playfully bike with good fuel economy as well. It's a bike that is easy to handle both at slow and dast speeds and thus gives you a good ride if you either go for long rides on the highway, playfully rides on the side roads, commuting in the city or a ride in the woods on dirt roads (I recommend to pick some good tires for this). It's a mid size bike that feels big but when you ride it suddenly feels smaller than it is and this only makes the bike less intimidating when new to riding but gives you a feeling of the bike as a powerfull and large adv also. As I've not ridden enough bikes to compare Voge to I can't say if this is better or worse. But the bike is an excellent bike for its price range and size. You get alot for the money and they recently released a new model which is the DS650 that are more offroad focused and is more similar to a classic ADV like ducati multistrada or BMW GS1200 but as a mid size mc. (A2 license).
Hi Morten thanks for the great feedback ...I remember reading somewhere that an owner removed the crash bars and it totally improved the vibrations ?? !!! Best wishes mark
Now that is how you do a swing arm - looking at you Honda, with your NC750X !!!! Bikes should all come with a centre stand - looking at virtually every manufacturer. Horn buttons should always be in the correct position - looking at you Honda, you really should sack your stylists. "Adventure" and touring bikes should be available with reasonably priced luggage like this. Well done Voge you are making it more difficult for established manufacturers to continue to screw their customers.
Great review as always! I'm not sure why this video didn't appear when I searched for your name + Voge. Anyway, hope you can also review this bike's neo retro sibling, the Voge 500AC. Cheers!
Hi 🙋🏻♂️ Great video! I own a 500DS since August 2023 an for 4000 km and I can confirm everything you said 👍🏻 The Voge 500 DS/DSX is a Swiss Army Knife on two weels. - You can't get a better bike for this price!!!
The first adventure I had was finding the dealership. Spent a good twenty mins going round in circles. Not the easiest place to find if you're not a local. Looks like amazing value for money compared to the competition, though, as I'm about the same height as you, I found it a little too tall and top heavy for me. Perhaps the mag wheel version would be a better option for those of us who are vertically challenged. Personally I would choose it over the Benelli or the CF Moto which would have to be it's main competitors. I'd like to see the Chinese manufacturers turn up a Honda CrF300 copy for a bit less than 4k. I can only live in hope. Keep up the good work...
The two bikes I've personally been looking into in the 300cc range from China are the Zontes 310 and Sinnis Terrain, prices vary depending on where you live im assuming but theyre around the 4k mark fyi 😊
Hi Dave thanks for the comment.... whenever I have to find places like this I use Google maps on the phone with a bike mount ...tap in the name of the place not just the postcode and hey presto it takes you to the door .very impressed never get lost again cheers mark
I have got a Voge 300 Rally which is a direct competitor to the CRF and £3799 compared to the £6500 for the CRF, loving it, and the quality it the same as this bike, all very good.
Another cracking review. Exeter Rider also impressed with the other version he tested so must be something here. (Usual 'China' caveats apply whichever side of the fence you are on). Cheers Mark! 👍
The quality seems spot on, the fact that they supply BMW with motors should say a lot for build standards as well. Can't get one down here in Aus though, yet.....
That's a good looking bike and keenly priced at 5400 for the cast wheels version considering crash bars and centre stand are included.....but the short service intervals would discount it for me I'm afraid...and what I'd imagine severe depreciation.... okay if you're planning on keeping it long term.
I saw one of these the other day and it really caught my eye. It looked brilliant close-up but the weight is too much for a 500 (for me anyway)...and its that weight that put me off. If it was 180kg is that would be ideal.
Lovely bike and great value...Good review as always Mark :-) I was just checking out the Colove 500X which is much the same and the new Colove 525X :-)
You have become a really rather good reviewer Mark. Not a bike I would probably ever consider let alone ride but none the less it was good watching your review as always. I recall you being a Multistrada fan in years gone by. Any plans to test ride the new V4S version? Just curious about the bike. There aren't any Ducati dealers near me.
Thanks Alex ...maybe ...my local ish dealer is in Winchester ...I'll see if they are interested in me doing reviews for them ..some welcome me with open arms some aren't interested thanks again :)
"Voge" aint that a song by Madonna , nice looking bike though .But has it got the guts for two up touring .Great vid again , could watch all day long . you will have to do a m.p. movie version lol .
Very interesting bike, quality looks up to the Japanese ( which has dropped in recent years l think) and well sorted. Could be perfect for me! Only issue is service intervals are twice as often than the Honda it’s based on ?! Thanks for such a detailed review, especially important on a relatively unknown brand . Could be the breakthrough bike for the Chinese?
@@jonathanmellish4439 and smaller BMW’s and KTMs . I just find it odd that that same design needs half as much service interval. The only difference must be quality of construction? It doesn’t look badly made( quite the contrary) and I’d be proud to have that on my drive.
@@jonathanmellish4439 They're made all over the place Jonathon, Honda's Transalp has been made in 3 different countries depending on the model,Japan,Spain and Italy,the original CBF125's were made in India,later ones in China, some Yamahas are made in France, Kawasaki have a tie-in with Bajaj in India who make some of their bikes for Asian markets. Best one I've seen is at a local bike shop where the mechanic showed me a Kawasaki scooter that beneath the plastic has Sym logos in various places.
It looks good, alright. Looks better than the CB500X. Goes well, great dash and I even like the look of the screen. but 500 is a size I'd never buy. Good review.
Wonder what the finish would look like after a salty winter...I have a CB500X which is an amazing bike for the money and has a high resale value. I'm not so sure a VOGE would be easy to sell on after a while. There are so many third party spares and extras for the CB500X and a massive service support network, though they don't seem to go wrong with the legendary Honda reliability. You get what you pay for. Nice to have choices but the purchase price is not everything, need to look at the big picture.
Thanks for the comment good points ...yes I was wondering that as well re the winters ... But it did look very well built and all the fittings looked of good quality Cheers mark
considering the CB500x, have no interest in the service network, after my SH125i belt snapped 8000 miles too soon. This was my third and last new Honda thanks to the Honda network.
they have 48 Voge dealers and 85 dealers in the MotoGB group who are the importers and that compares to around 70 Honda dealers, the engine is also a licenced version of the Honda engine and these bikes also use mainstream components for the brakes, suspension and electronics etc so there should really be no problem with spares or reliability, and as for resale, people know what they are buying into and in purely monetary terms a 50% loss on this is not so different to a 30% loss on a Honda, and Japanese fit and finish is not what it used to be either, I have looked at both bikes and there really isn't much difference
Hi , Mark it seems to hit all the boxes , so to speak , the Chinese and Japanese, thing is like going back to the 1960,s . When Honda came over the horizon and electric start , Oh how every one took the micky and had their opinions . Well time moves on , ride what you like and can afford and have fun . ALWAYS A GREAT REVIEW .When is someone going to invent over thick riding boot flexible soles, as I seem to have shrunk in length over the years and getting ones leg over is taxing .
Another interesting motorcycle of the same category is the colove 500x (known as macbor montana xr5 in Spain, Bristol/Brixx venturi 500 in Asia and Daytona Maverick 500 in Greece where i live and Romania). It uses the same engine made by Loncin, has kyb inverted forks and rear suspension (fully adjustable), switchable abs by bosch, efi by Bosch, nissin brakes, and tons of standard equipment. I have been owning it for the past 4 months, for daily commuting and lots of highway (currently at 4000km). I am very pleased with the motorcycle so far. If you are gentle with the throttle, you can travel @100km on 6th gear consuming 3,5l/100km. It would be a great choice for anyone that has access to it, and wants a middle capacity do-it-all motorcycle. Have a nice day!
I’d never heard of Voge motorcycles until this afternoon and it turns out that my local motorcycle dealership is an agent for them I’m looking to replace my old Peugeot car with a bike purely for getting me to work and back, a daily 20 mile round trip and this bike ticks all the boxes, price, warranty, economy, comfort, equipment I mean what’s not to like? I’m going to get down there and arrange a test ride, you’ve convinced me
An excellent review. Thanks. At last - another rider at my height and weight. Loved the way you covered its handleability and comfort. I'm looking for a larger cc middleweight companion for my 125 Michigan cruiser. Questions, if I may - did you play with the screen height? If so, did it make much difference to wind deflection? Could I run a handlebar mounted sat. nav. from the usb port? Finally, is the 'road' version just about the same bike? I only want it for standard road riding. Many thanks.
Hi I always put the screens in the high position and it was fine ,yes you could easily run a sat nav from the USB ....also have a look at the Honda cb500x which this is based on ..and not much difference between this and the road version really apart from the wheels and it might be taller Best regards mark
In China,our Chinese 500cc ADV motorbikes are the hottest option. We have a variety of choice competing each other. We have Voge 500DS, Benelli TRK 502X, COLOVE KY500X, Honda CB400X(assembled in China) and CFMOTO 650MT(a little bit more expensive but in the same price level). I've had some test ride of 500DS, CB400X and KY500X, I think KY500X is better at riding experience. It has the best handling in its class for it is much more lighter than its competitors and it has unilateral swingarm. It also have outstanding off-road performance. CB400X is the most smooth one and it is very reliable, those features with lower seats makes it way more accessible. But it has almost no off-road ability and technical equipment. 500DS stands between those two, it has enough off-road ability and comfort equipment for long distance traveling, but it's not that good on handling especially on curvy road and when moving it at low speed.
It's practicaly a copy paste of the CB500X 2022mod. mechanicaly and desighn wise. The Voge 500DSX gives you all the extras that honda has as standard! except for the travel bags. The honda has an LCD screen where the Voge has TFT also standard! And with all that said it costs about almost 1,500 euros less than the CB500X . This isn't a bargain it's a steal!
Looks like a really nice bike for the money. How does it compare with the Benelli TRK502? They're both Chinese built and cost around about the same, so a comparison would be good. Thanks for the review.
Hi Matt ....the trk is very good but the build quality of this is even better,it feels lighter and a bit more sprightly through the gears .... for me the Voge just wins but it's very close Cheers mark
Hi Mark, bikes like this, the Morini X-Cape, CF Moto and Benelli Trk 502 interest me as they are now close enough on quality to the mainstream to be viable competitors. You've pretty much ridden them all, which one stands out for you? Which would you take round the NC500?
Hi Jeffrey ....its got approx 150 dealers in the UK .. tricky choice but I'd go for the Voge ...the engine feels a bit more sprightly to me .. Cheers mark
Mark, it doesn't seem like I made a good choice after all. My bike is now 39 days old and it packed up yesterday. The dam thing starts sounding funny as I approach my house, I pull in and it won't switch off, I hit the kill switch but no joy. Eventually I stick it in gear and release the clutch with breaks applied, now the engine cuts out but the dam thing keeps trying to start up just like as if I'm trying to turn it on, eventually it seems to have lost power in the battery. The thing is I have no idea if there is any permanent damage. I rang the shop that I gave £6200 for it (which is only two miles away) they said ah well, bring it over and we will sort it. In my opinion this is bang out of order. Anyway you did ask me to let you know in six months how I am am enjoying my new Voge 500dsx. It only took 39 days.
Hi Mark, didn’t know where to post this, is there anything planned to test ride the Lexmoto pioneer 500, no one seems to have done a review on it and seeing as you tested the Voge 500, thought you may want to give it a crack
@@markpulling12 I’m thinking of downsizing from my Tiger 900 so looking at something in the 500 to 650 range, look forward to seeing the Pioneers review if you’re able to get hold of one
Hi mark hope your all well and ok I want to ask a question is leather boots better than sport bike boots because I love the look of the BIKER EAGLE HI BOOTS or would you say the R-Tech Tornado 2.0 Racing Boots are better. Be safe ride safe
Hi Matt well both boots will give you protection the sports bike boots will obviously offer a bit more protection but I personally wear sports bike boots and the other style and I don't really worry about it that much if you were a hardcore racer then you'd want to wear sports bike boots the whole time just buy what you like really what fits you the best obviously the sports bikes boots do ultimately give you a bit more protection but you know the leather boots look good so if you like those they would be absolutely fine I would say cheers mark
A good effort. But the normal concerns 3000 miles service , if it's a proven engine then why not 6 or 8 thousand mile ? Then the story on parts or lack of them. There getting better but the servicing cost will put people off , its a fair cost over two years.
Thanks Jim ..yes I don't really get it with the low service intervals ....maybe they are just being overly cautious ...I'm sure it could easily go 5/6 k miles on modern oils cheers mark
Thanks Jim ..yes I don't really get it with the low service intervals ....maybe they are just being overly cautious ...I'm sure it could easily go 5/6 k miles on modern oils cheers mark
Chinese bikes are getting much more costlier to buy over the next few months - COVID, shipping costs etc - so beware! Definitely wouldn’t buy one over a Honda (or any Japanese or Italian) for the cost difference (also these have 3k service intervals) as I still wouldn’t quite trust the build quality, however, that may change in the future. Thanks for the review.
thanks mark for the video. I have a question. how high is the noise (db level)? I ask because the 500ds model up to model year 2021 was louder than 95db. For example in Austria on some routes motorbikes louder than 95db are not allowed to drive. The 500ds model with 17 inch wheels are not allowed to drive there
It's funny how some people are not happy with the 3000 miles/5000 kilometers service intervals of the Voge, especially when most of the people don't even surpass this number every year due to bad weather. The CB500X has service intervals every 4000 miles/6400 kilometers, which is not a huuuuge difference, of you compare the total prices of both of these bikes. My point is that you get a much cheaper 500cc motorcycle, which is better in some departments and you can have equal or more fun.
@@markpulling12 No Mark, thank you for your informative and lovely to watch videos. I didn't realise that I hadn't subscribed all this time, so finally I did.
Would like to see, honest long range rewed (15000km), otherwise, can't trust the chines quality. Heard many complaints from owners.
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Merhaba Yakıt Tüketimi ne kadar acaba ? Java rvm 500 mü Voge dsx 500 mü, hangisini tercih ederdiniz ?( Hello, how much is the Fuel Consumption?, Java rvm 500 or Voge dsx 500, which would you prefer ? )
I really like that but the biggy with this sort of thing is servicing. Not just the intervals as others have said but locally ,and I live in a big-ish city, most bike shops won't work on Chinese bikes because of the poor quality. Now that might well be unfair these days but it's a fact. They also tend to be sold by small outfits that quite often disappear and leave the owner high and dry. I'm sure attitudes will change as a lot of Chinese manufacturers are making good stuff these days but it will also take larger dealers with factory-trained mechanics and good spares back up for them to really take off. I'm a former mechanic but not everyone can service their own bike,my mate runs a bike shop and there's a constant stream of people who come in to get their chains checked,lubed and adjusted let alone are capable of stripping their brakes or checking valve clearances.
Mark, can you tell me. Should the tyre pressure reading be on when I turn on my 500dsx or does it only come on if the tyre pressure drops below what it should be?
Hi Colm .... I think from memory..the TPM should be showing "ok" all the time on both wheels when you switch on .... then it should give you a warning if the pressure drops below a certain level cheers mark
Hmm the tpm is a signal sent from the tyre valves ...they have batteries which may be flat or maybe there is some form of reboot /connection Bluetooth in the settings .... failing that the dealer should be able to find out from lexmoto/ voge in Exeter
Great bike perfect clone of the cb500x well equipped. My only thoughts are considering its the same bike the service intervals a 3000 but the honda is 8000. Might just be playing it safe. As the honda first editions also came with a lower valve check.
@@markpulling12 I have searched before asking you. I have hoped that you know. I very much like your videos but in the future , can you provide what the manufacturers don't say ?
Thanks Mike ...I guess they are just being cautious ....I'm sure they could easily go more mileage ....I'd just DIY after warranty is out ...just simply oil and filter mainly Cheers mark
@@iceblaze6010 hi no the power is the same. A2 47 HP..but the suspension and brakes and general build quality are a bit better. ,Fuel consumption is the same
@@markpulling12 i see. As for the looks, pillion sit and road presence i do prefer the benelli, so as the hand guards. But the i like the screen and some other features of voge, thats why Im a bit torn on which one is the better choice. I wish to know which is better so I could decide which one to buy.
I let my ds500 dry out of gas, and the kilometers where 321. So 17lt for 321 ? That's about 5,1lt per 100 kilometers. The screen was saying 4,1lt. Something is not right 🤔🤔🤔 Next test will be...put gas till top of the tank, do a 100 kilometers and go back again to the gas station to fill it up. The first "kilometers per liter" test failed. Let's see how the second test will do and find out who is the lier... The liters per 100 kilometers meter or the kilometers meter?🤔
So close in price to a Honda CB500X, with the 2022 model being the best ever, that it would be madness to take the Chinese option. The Chinese economy is about to collapse, unlike Japan, so Honda is probably a safer bet. But fair credit to them, it looks to be the nicest Chinese bike yet, the Bennelli’s are trash. Now if they did this in a 1000cc Africa Twin rip off for short people, I’d be buying one now.
This matches my thinking (except regarding the imminent collapse of the Chinese economy). Shopping in this class? Voge is an excellent offering. But I'd go with the Honda. Thank you, Mark.
@@skillsonian the only reason I say that is having spoken to a Chinese millionaire businessman this week. He thinks it is all coming crashing down. I trust his view. I didn’t think it was anything like that bad, but he’s losing hundreds of millions in property. I only know him thanks to a charity he supports.
@@grahamhiggins1 Graham the Chinese property market has been hit by the government clamping down on unsustainable debt built up by by building/property companies so yes shareholders in those companies have been hit . Google Evergrande crisis.
Mr Mark I want to address - "I can't quite get my feet down flat". YOU DON'T NEED TO GET YOUR FEET DOWN FLAT or anybody for that matter. When you stop and have to balance on the ground most of your weight will be on the bike and all you need is just "balls" of your feet to keep the bike vertically. 1 foot actually is all you need. Statement - I can't quite get my feet down flat is like - I can't quite run with my feet down flat. WOW!. Who needs feet down flat when running and who needs feet down flat when riding a motorcycle; plus if you ride a bike - you RIDE it I hope and not sit in a traffic and this position is so much more important. You should not be bending your legs like a newborn of a sort most of the time only to have it feet down flat for a few seconds in traffic. Thumb up as always. I actually stopped watching Missendend Flyer as your reviews as so much better.
Thanks Great comment ....I have no problems with being on tip toes on just one leg personally....but I only just mention the feet thing because lots of people especially newcomers to biking like the security of getting the feet down ....but yes as you get more experience tip toes is fine if you are confident with that Many thanks again :)
Jeese Mr Colostomy Bag, give Mark a break! He's just trying to show what he finds for his wide spectrum of viewers whether they be short, tall thin or wide whether they are gymnasts or couch potatoes ............... Both TMF and Mark do good bike reviews. You could learn a thing or two from either of them for your next video of your MIO .......... Never heard of it and I am still none the wiser having watched your shaky video.
Gab whatever your silly joke of a name is. We really don't need a lecture from you about feet down. Yes we get it. As Mark said - and which you should have already understood without reminding, not everyone feels that confident, especially on cambered roads when they put their foot down at traffic lights and find there is nothing there. So please give Mark a bit of slack. He is just being helpful and doesn't need your lecture. Thanks.
I own the 500Ds Euro 4 for 1,5 years. Satisfied with it and enjoying commuting or traveling. And it was almost 1500 euros cheaper than the Honda. Better brakes and suspension, more playful engine, and the full traveling equipment with the aluminum cases. Since I do not intend to sell it soon, I think it was a better choice for me. 10.000 km without any issue so far. Greetings from Greece!
Thanks good to hear it's going well 😊
Have you checked the fuel economy?
@@nobleabraham6498 yes. I mean the real consumption not what the instrument shows. It is 3,2-3,5 trip and 4-4,5 city. That’s lt/100km.
Guys don't get confused. Honda is better. This is just a lot for the money
Well after 4 years of ownership I don’t think that CB500X is that much better. It is not made in Japan. Especially now compared to the 525DSX. It is not just the VFM anymore.
If you like the Honda, buy the Honda. If you like the Voge, take the Voge. What makes you to want to ride more! I don’t care for the manufacturer. I’m not a fanatic of any firm.
Just sayin’…
Having owned a chinese bike I know they are really good bikes and would not hesitate in buying one.
Hi Mark hope you're well. Great review and progress is clearly being made.There are many plus points on this Voge but unfortunately the major disadvantage is the 3k service intervals. If you bought the cb500x it would of course be £600 more expensive but with the Honda needing to be serviced twice up to 16k miles compared to the Voge's five times and the undoubtedly higher residual value of the Honda three years later the Chinese bike would be the more expensive option. It's not quite the bargain it seems at first.
Fair enough point but I think the service on the Honda is at least double that of the voge.
Thank you for the reply. With the chinese trying to get into the market 3k service intervals just aren't going to cut it. As Mark says in his video the engine is similiar to the CB500 engine so why would it need servicing every 3k?
@@nigelwyatt1408 I don't know why but I'm sure it won't cause any harm.
@@davestephens3246 I have mine for four days now, thankfully no issues yet 😁, I'll let you know in one years time how it goes, if its still going.
In Greece, you would need more than 1500€ for a CB500X with the amount of equipment the Voge 500DS has, which is quite a big difference for a bike which is extremely similar.
As for the service intervals, the CB500X is every 6000 kilometers and the Voge 500DS is every 5000 kilometers. And of course, the parts for the Honda are more expensive.
The CB500X has been proven reliable and that is something that the Voge 500DS has to prove for itself in the coming years.
Hi I own the 500dsx and it’s a great wee bike I’ve had 1250 bandit and Versys 1000 but I prefer the Voge such a good looking comfy bike Chinese bikes are the in thing at the moment go out and buy one
Trading my Indian scout in for one, thank you for the review
GLC
Great review mark,I have to say it blows the competition out of the water,its about £1500 cheaper it's got nisin brakes kyb forks and a TFT display.and also looks great.i know where my money would go.
Cheers James great bike for the money ...just something a bit different if you don't want the cb500x
Shame about the poxy 3000 miles service
Well done yet again Mark, very entertaining and you give the impression the 'days of finding fault with Chinese bikes' might be over! Certainly their prices are bewitching, not surprisingly!!!
Thanks ....one of the best Chinese bikes I've seen and ridden
Very nice build quality 👍
Cheers mark
Yeap, very good bikes. I'm glad you liked it as well👍🍻
Thanks ER .... probably the nicest Chinese bike I've seen and ridden :)
Cheers mark
very nice bike. I will considered the voge 500 DS as my first big bike.
Thanks for the video, Mark. The Chinese bikes certainly seem to be improving in quality.
This is one of the best I've seen :)
Great to see a town environment review where motorcycles often go. Well done Mark! Unfortunately we don’t get these in Australia 🤦♂️ Otherwise, great cheap bike. How would it compare in build quality with the likes of CFMoto?
Hi Steve c f Moto are very good but this Voge is by far the best Chinese bike I've seen :)
Hello!
Bought this as my first bike.
What I have experienced woth this was at first this was a very good beginners bike (for me) as it was very easy to handle.
U-turns is very easy compared to the school bikes I rode before getting my license, crawl speed is easy, good sitting position, excellent acceleration and smooth on uneven roads and surfaces.
The bike sounds aggressive and playful and it is as I discovered fun to ride on the sideroads as it is aggressive and sport like in the turns.
When you just need a nice ride it's also comfortable and you can use higher gears for touring and thus comfortable on the highway.
This summer I took my Voge out on a fishing trip in the woods and the offroad capabilities was pleasant enough but the foot pegs is a bit slim so a broader variant is recommended for longer periods of standing uprite and the foot brake pedal should be adjusted so it is not so far down from the pegs.
Back to on asphalt riding the bike is heavy but it feels much lighter and smaller than it is and for a new rider like me it felt less intimidating as a first bike to ride compared to other adv bikes.
The only complaints I have so far is that over 90 KM/H it has a lot of vibration and I have been wondering of there is any vibration dampening add-ons for the handlebars.
The other complaint is that in lower speeds like crawling speed the throttle is to sensitive compared to other bikes I have ridden on. It's hard to maintain a constant speed for me at least on this I first gear under 20 KM/H and thus it is bit uneven and shaky or snappy.
Spareparts is only available at OEM dealers for now since it is so new and topboxes and sidebags are a bit hard to find (in Norway at least) and thus the few options are more expensive than I wanted it to be.
So for me as it is now I could summarize my experience with this bike as followed :
If you are looking for your first bike for commuting and longer trips in a lower price range Voge is the bike for you.
It's a good bike for its price range and you get alot for the money. LED screen, Premium brakes, good shocks and a playfully bike with good fuel economy as well.
It's a bike that is easy to handle both at slow and dast speeds and thus gives you a good ride if you either go for long rides on the highway, playfully rides on the side roads, commuting in the city or a ride in the woods on dirt roads (I recommend to pick some good tires for this).
It's a mid size bike that feels big but when you ride it suddenly feels smaller than it is and this only makes the bike less intimidating when new to riding but gives you a feeling of the bike as a powerfull and large adv also.
As I've not ridden enough bikes to compare Voge to I can't say if this is better or worse. But the bike is an excellent bike for its price range and size. You get alot for the money and they recently released a new model which is the DS650 that are more offroad focused and is more similar to a classic ADV like ducati multistrada or BMW GS1200 but as a mid size mc. (A2 license).
Hi Morten thanks for the great feedback ...I remember reading somewhere that an owner removed the crash bars and it totally improved the vibrations ?? !!!
Best wishes mark
Looked at one today, very impressed, I've got a trk502 atm but might be tempted with a voge👍
Thanks Chris the voge is very impressive for the money
Now that is how you do a swing arm - looking at you Honda, with your NC750X !!!!
Bikes should all come with a centre stand - looking at virtually every manufacturer.
Horn buttons should always be in the correct position - looking at you Honda, you really should sack your stylists.
"Adventure" and touring bikes should be available with reasonably priced luggage like this.
Well done Voge you are making it more difficult for established manufacturers to continue to screw their customers.
Many thanks ...I really like this bike :)
Great review as always! I'm not sure why this video didn't appear when I searched for your name + Voge. Anyway, hope you can also review this bike's neo retro sibling, the Voge 500AC. Cheers!
Hi 🙋🏻♂️ Great video!
I own a 500DS since August 2023 an for 4000 km and I can confirm everything you said 👍🏻 The Voge 500 DS/DSX is a Swiss Army Knife on two weels. - You can't get a better bike for this price!!!
Many thanks 👍
Best wishes mark
The first adventure I had was finding the dealership. Spent a good twenty mins going round in circles. Not the easiest place to find if you're not a local.
Looks like amazing value for money compared to the competition, though, as I'm about the same height as you, I found it a little too tall and top heavy for me. Perhaps the mag wheel version would be a better option for those of us who are vertically challenged. Personally I would choose it over the Benelli or the CF Moto which would have to be it's main competitors.
I'd like to see the Chinese manufacturers turn up a Honda CrF300 copy for a bit less than 4k. I can only live in hope.
Keep up the good work...
The two bikes I've personally been looking into in the 300cc range from China are the Zontes 310 and Sinnis Terrain, prices vary depending on where you live im assuming but theyre around the 4k mark fyi 😊
Hi Dave thanks for the comment.... whenever I have to find places like this I use Google maps on the phone with a bike mount ...tap in the name of the place not just the postcode and hey presto it takes you to the door .very impressed never get lost again cheers mark
A new 450 Himalayan is coming that will be your cheap CRF. Bikewale has an RE insider, their usually right th-cam.com/video/85UfUtB1OC8/w-d-xo.html
I have got a Voge 300 Rally which is a direct competitor to the CRF and £3799 compared to the £6500 for the CRF, loving it, and the quality it the same as this bike, all very good.
Another cracking review. Exeter Rider also impressed with the other version he tested so must be something here. (Usual 'China' caveats apply whichever side of the fence you are on). Cheers Mark! 👍
Many thanks best Chinese bike I've ridden :)
The quality seems spot on, the fact that they supply BMW with motors should say a lot for build standards as well.
Can't get one down here in Aus though, yet.....
That's a good looking bike and keenly priced at 5400 for the cast wheels version considering crash bars and centre stand are included.....but the short service intervals would discount it for me I'm afraid...and what I'd imagine severe depreciation.... okay if you're planning on keeping it long term.
I saw one of these the other day and it really caught my eye. It looked brilliant close-up but the weight is too much for a 500 (for me anyway)...and its that weight that put me off. If it was 180kg is that would be ideal.
Lovely bike and great value...Good review as always Mark :-) I was just checking out the Colove 500X which is much the same and the new Colove 525X :-)
Those Colove bikes look nice !
That's one good lookin bike and them paniers are very reasonably priced as is the bike I would have one in my garage no doubts : ) good one Mark
Many thanks
You have become a really rather good reviewer Mark. Not a bike I would probably ever consider let alone ride but none the less it was good watching your review as always.
I recall you being a Multistrada fan in years gone by. Any plans to test ride the new V4S version? Just curious about the bike. There aren't any Ducati dealers near me.
Thanks Alex ...maybe ...my local ish dealer is in Winchester ...I'll see if they are interested in me doing reviews for them ..some welcome me with open arms some aren't interested thanks again :)
Looks like a lot of bike for the money and the luggage seems good value too
"Voge" aint that a song by Madonna , nice looking bike though .But has it got the guts for two up touring .Great vid again , could watch all day long . you will have to do a m.p. movie version lol .
Many thanks 👍👍
Very interesting bike, quality looks up to the Japanese ( which has dropped in recent years l think) and well sorted. Could be perfect for me!
Only issue is service intervals are twice as often than the Honda it’s based on ?! Thanks for such a detailed review, especially important on a relatively unknown brand . Could be the breakthrough bike for the Chinese?
Thanks the service intervals wouldn't worry me too much ...it's cheap to service plus I'd DIY once out of warranty cheers mark
@@markpulling12 very true given the generous warranty. 👍
Many Japanese bikes are now made in China.
@@jonathanmellish4439 and smaller BMW’s and KTMs . I just find it odd that that same design needs half as much service interval. The only difference must be quality of construction? It doesn’t look badly made( quite the contrary) and I’d be proud to have that on my drive.
@@jonathanmellish4439 They're made all over the place Jonathon, Honda's Transalp has been made in 3 different countries depending on the model,Japan,Spain and Italy,the original CBF125's were made in India,later ones in China, some Yamahas are made in France, Kawasaki have a tie-in with Bajaj in India who make some of their bikes for Asian markets. Best one I've seen is at a local bike shop where the mechanic showed me a Kawasaki scooter that beneath the plastic has Sym logos in various places.
Hmm. My head is turning from the CB500X to this bike as my first bike. Seems to tick all the boxes I want from a bike. Thank you for the video.
Thanks Dave 😁
It looks good, alright. Looks better than the CB500X. Goes well, great dash and I even like the look of the screen. but 500 is a size I'd never buy. Good review.
Thanks Nik .... probably the nicest Chinese bike I've ridden
Do not Underestimate these 500 cc
Engines I did!! .and I was very
Suprised plenty of Torque cruise at 80mph easy and Still getting over 70mpg ..
Wonder what the finish would look like after a salty winter...I have a CB500X which is an amazing bike for the money and has a high resale value. I'm not so sure a VOGE would be easy to sell on after a while. There are so many third party spares and extras for the CB500X and a massive service support network, though they don't seem to go wrong with the legendary Honda reliability. You get what you pay for. Nice to have choices but the purchase price is not everything, need to look at the big picture.
Thanks for the comment good points ...yes I was wondering that as well re the winters ... But it did look very well built and all the fittings looked of good quality
Cheers mark
considering the CB500x, have no interest in the service network, after my SH125i belt snapped 8000 miles too soon.
This was my third and last new Honda thanks to the Honda network.
they have 48 Voge dealers and 85 dealers in the MotoGB group who are the importers and that compares to around 70 Honda dealers, the engine is also a licenced version of the Honda engine and these bikes also use mainstream components for the brakes, suspension and electronics etc so there should really be no problem with spares or reliability, and as for resale, people know what they are buying into and in purely monetary terms a 50% loss on this is not so different to a 30% loss on a Honda, and Japanese fit and finish is not what it used to be either, I have looked at both bikes and there really isn't much difference
The Voge 500 has been discontinued and I understand they sold only 33 of them. I think that speaks for itself.@@andyc750
Hi, grats for your new bike! I have a chanel with Voge DS500. Close 1year old and 4300km. I think very good bike. Everybody just watch her😊👍
Great video bike looks very nice.
Hi , Mark it seems to hit all the boxes , so to speak , the Chinese and Japanese, thing is like going back to the 1960,s . When Honda came over the horizon and electric start , Oh how every one took the micky and had their opinions . Well time moves on , ride what you like and can afford and have fun . ALWAYS A GREAT REVIEW .When is someone going to invent over thick riding boot flexible soles, as I seem to have shrunk in length over the years and getting ones leg over is taxing .
Many thanks
cool to see a town based review, and a town i know well.
Hey Mark, Love your reviews. Realy need a review on the new Voge 300 Rally. There is nothing in english on TH-cam. Please.....
Best regards Jan Tore
Hi we don't have the 300 here yet but if it becomes available I'll definitely be reviewing it:)
Best wishes mark
Another interesting motorcycle of the same category is the colove 500x (known as macbor montana xr5 in Spain, Bristol/Brixx venturi 500 in Asia and Daytona Maverick 500 in Greece where i live and Romania). It uses the same engine made by Loncin, has kyb inverted forks and rear suspension (fully adjustable), switchable abs by bosch, efi by Bosch, nissin brakes, and tons of standard equipment. I have been owning it for the past 4 months, for daily commuting and lots of highway (currently at 4000km). I am very pleased with the motorcycle so far. If you are gentle with the throttle, you can travel @100km on 6th gear consuming 3,5l/100km. It would be a great choice for anyone that has access to it, and wants a middle capacity do-it-all motorcycle. Have a nice day!
Many thanks 👍
hi do you still own the 500 DS and ride it daily? what's your experience sofar?
I’d never heard of Voge motorcycles until this afternoon and it turns out that my local motorcycle dealership is an agent for them
I’m looking to replace my old Peugeot car with a bike purely for getting me to work and back, a daily 20 mile round trip and this bike ticks all the boxes, price, warranty, economy, comfort, equipment I mean what’s not to like?
I’m going to get down there and arrange a test ride, you’ve convinced me
Thanks David ...let me know how it goes and what you think
Cheers mark
Hi Mark, great view. One question, what make of gloves are you wearing, they look cool!!! .
hi john ..they are rst tractech evo many thanks
Looks a great bike and a fantastic price would like to see how it deals with the British weather corrosion etc.
Yes Paul ..that is the clincher isn't it ...road salt etc ...I'll keep an eye out for some after this winter ❄️
An excellent review. Thanks. At last - another rider at my height and weight. Loved the way you covered its handleability and comfort. I'm looking for a larger cc middleweight companion for my 125 Michigan cruiser. Questions, if I may - did you play with the screen height? If so, did it make much difference to wind deflection? Could I run a handlebar mounted sat. nav. from the usb port? Finally, is the 'road' version just about the same bike? I only want it for standard road riding. Many thanks.
Hi I always put the screens in the high position and it was fine ,yes you could easily run a sat nav from the USB ....also have a look at the Honda cb500x which this is based on ..and not much difference between this and the road version really apart from the wheels and it might be taller
Best regards mark
Lovely review Mark. You didn't have the nicest bit of Southampton to start in! Nice bike though!
In China,our Chinese 500cc ADV motorbikes are the hottest option. We have a variety of choice competing each other. We have Voge 500DS, Benelli TRK 502X, COLOVE KY500X, Honda CB400X(assembled in China) and CFMOTO 650MT(a little bit more expensive but in the same price level). I've had some test ride of 500DS, CB400X and KY500X, I think KY500X is better at riding experience. It has the best handling in its class for it is much more lighter than its competitors and it has unilateral swingarm. It also have outstanding off-road performance. CB400X is the most smooth one and it is very reliable, those features with lower seats makes it way more accessible. But it has almost no off-road ability and technical equipment. 500DS stands between those two, it has enough off-road ability and comfort equipment for long distance traveling, but it's not that good on handling especially on curvy road and when moving it at low speed.
Thanks great comment...I personally really like these Chinese 500s ...the voge is the best one I've tried
Cheers mark
Wish we could get this in the USA
It's practicaly a copy paste of the CB500X 2022mod. mechanicaly and desighn wise. The Voge 500DSX gives you all the extras that honda has as standard! except for the travel bags. The honda has an LCD screen where the Voge has TFT also standard! And with all that said it costs about almost 1,500 euros less than the CB500X . This isn't a bargain it's a steal!
Many thanks 👍 I really like the voge
Thanks for another informative review…👍
Any chance you will check out the Voge 300 GY Rally?
Hi thanks ....no sadly doesn't look like it's available in the UK at the moment but yes definitely if it comes here looks like a crf300 beater !
Nice Bike. Awesome luggage. I live close by the IKEA in Merriam, Kansas USA.
Thanks Steve I've just been to Louisville Kentucky to visit my mum!!
@@markpulling12 Hope she's fantastic!
Thank you for the very good test. Greetings from germany.
Hi thanks and best wishes to Germany
Cheers mark
Wish could see them up in CANADA..would be nice
Looks like well worth the money then Mark…good review thanks mate
Thanks Paul my pleasure
Hello Mark, very good review. I was wondering if you did review of Voge 500R or 500AC?
Hi no not yet maybe in the future 😊
Where is this bike made Mark? Thank you for another good review......Sal : )
Chinese bike sal :)
Looks like a really nice bike for the money. How does it compare with the Benelli TRK502? They're both Chinese built and cost around about the same, so a comparison would be good.
Thanks for the review.
Hi Matt ....the trk is very good but the build quality of this is even better,it feels lighter and a bit more sprightly through the gears .... for me the Voge just wins but it's very close
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Thanks for your comparison. Will hopefully get to sit on both of them at the London motorcycle show this February.
Hi Mark, bikes like this, the Morini X-Cape, CF Moto and Benelli Trk 502 interest me as they are now close enough on quality to the mainstream to be viable competitors. You've pretty much ridden them all, which one stands out for you? Which would you take round the NC500?
Hi for me it would be the trk 502 ...most comfortable seat and suspension... cheers mark
@markpulling12 thanks Mark that's interesting.
Not bad for a sewing machine👍👍
I brought an Orange CB500F after you reviewed one...How does the Engine
Compare? Dealer Network?
Would you Buy the Voge
Or The Honda CB500X?
Hi Jeffrey ....its got approx 150 dealers in the UK .. tricky choice but I'd go for the Voge ...the engine feels a bit more sprightly to me ..
Cheers mark
i had a l7 sv650 and you had to watch the snatch in town, at times you could hear the back tyre screech with the snatch
I've decided to take a gamble on the voge ,picking it up this Friday .
Hopefully I won't have any regrets .
Good choice Colin ...it'll be great,owners love them
Post an update on here in six months if you remember :)
@@markpulling12 cheers Mark, I will do.
It's Colm by the way.
Just saying 😉
Mark, it doesn't seem like I made a good choice after all. My bike is now 39 days old and it packed up yesterday. The dam thing starts sounding funny as I approach my house, I pull in and it won't switch off, I hit the kill switch but no joy. Eventually I stick it in gear and release the clutch with breaks applied, now the engine cuts out but the dam thing keeps trying to start up just like as if I'm trying to turn it on, eventually it seems to have lost power in the battery. The thing is I have no idea if there is any permanent damage. I rang the shop that I gave £6200 for it (which is only two miles away) they said ah well, bring it over and we will sort it. In my opinion this is bang out of order. Anyway you did ask me to let you know in six months how I am am enjoying my new Voge 500dsx. It only took 39 days.
@@hazwalk oh crikey !
Thats a shame ...hope it's nothing too serious keep me posted
@@markpulling12 ill let you know.
Thanks
Hi Mark, didn’t know where to post this, is there anything planned to test ride the Lexmoto pioneer 500, no one seems to have done a review on it and seeing as you tested the Voge 500, thought you may want to give it a crack
Hi Nigel I've seen that bike online...I'll send a message to lexmoto to see if they will lend me one cheers mark
@@markpulling12 I’m thinking of downsizing from my Tiger 900 so looking at something in the 500 to 650 range, look forward to seeing the Pioneers review if you’re able to get hold of one
@@nigel7768 I've just emailed them Nigel :)
hopefully you can hire someone who can record you while test driving, mark. really wanted to see you in third person view.
Hi mark hope your all well and ok I want to ask a question is leather boots better than sport bike boots because I love the look of the BIKER EAGLE HI BOOTS or would you say the R-Tech Tornado 2.0 Racing Boots are better. Be safe ride safe
Hi Matt well both boots will give you protection the sports bike boots will obviously offer a bit more protection but I personally wear sports bike boots and the other style and I don't really worry about it that much if you were a hardcore racer then you'd want to wear sports bike boots the whole time just buy what you like really what fits you the best obviously the sports bikes boots do ultimately give you a bit more protection but you know the leather boots look good so if you like those they would be absolutely fine I would say cheers mark
@@markpulling12 thanks for for the advice Mark top man keep up the good work
Nice review!.......any chance of the 650 DSX 👍
It's hopefully coming up soon !
This and the Zontes tourer not keen on the tank shape. The Bennelli maybe better looking...
But pretty nice.
A good effort. But the normal concerns 3000 miles service , if it's a proven engine then why not 6 or 8 thousand mile ? Then the story on parts or lack of them. There getting better but the servicing cost will put people off , its a fair cost over two years.
Thanks Jim ..yes I don't really get it with the low service intervals ....maybe they are just being overly cautious ...I'm sure it could easily go 5/6 k miles on modern oils cheers mark
Thanks Jim ..yes I don't really get it with the low service intervals ....maybe they are just being overly cautious ...I'm sure it could easily go 5/6 k miles on modern oils cheers mark
Chinese bikes are getting much more costlier to buy over the next few months - COVID, shipping costs etc - so beware! Definitely wouldn’t buy one over a Honda (or any Japanese or Italian) for the cost difference (also these have 3k service intervals) as I still wouldn’t quite trust the build quality, however, that may change in the future. Thanks for the review.
Thanks Nigel :)
thanks mark for the video. I have a question. how high is the noise (db level)? I ask because the 500ds model up to model year 2021 was louder than 95db. For example in Austria on some routes motorbikes louder than 95db are not allowed to drive. The 500ds model with 17 inch wheels are not allowed to drive there
Hi I found it to be a quiet bike no noisier than any other bike I've tried ...they have to meet euro 5 regs so very strict with noise :)
Cheers mark
It's funny how some people are not happy with the 3000 miles/5000 kilometers service intervals of the Voge, especially when most of the people don't even surpass this number every year due to bad weather.
The CB500X has service intervals every 4000 miles/6400 kilometers, which is not a huuuuge difference, of you compare the total prices of both of these bikes.
My point is that you get a much cheaper 500cc motorcycle, which is better in some departments and you can have equal or more fun.
Thanks George :)
@@markpulling12 No Mark, thank you for your informative and lovely to watch videos. I didn't realise that I hadn't subscribed all this time, so finally I did.
Would like to see, honest long range rewed (15000km), otherwise, can't trust the chines quality. Heard many complaints from owners.
Merhaba Yakıt Tüketimi ne kadar acaba ? Java rvm 500 mü Voge dsx 500 mü, hangisini tercih ederdiniz ?( Hello, how much is the Fuel Consumption?, Java rvm 500 or Voge dsx 500, which would you prefer ? )
Hi the fuel consumption is very good about 70 mpg UK. 4l /100 km
Voge name and logo better for a clothing brand than a motorcycle, I think. But a great bike for the price
Thanks Steve :)
I really like that but the biggy with this sort of thing is servicing. Not just the intervals as others have said but locally ,and I live in a big-ish city, most bike shops won't work on Chinese bikes because of the poor quality. Now that might well be unfair these days but it's a fact. They also tend to be sold by small outfits that quite often disappear and leave the owner high and dry. I'm sure attitudes will change as a lot of Chinese manufacturers are making good stuff these days but it will also take larger dealers with factory-trained mechanics and good spares back up for them to really take off. I'm a former mechanic but not everyone can service their own bike,my mate runs a bike shop and there's a constant stream of people who come in to get their chains checked,lubed and adjusted let alone are capable of stripping their brakes or checking valve clearances.
Thanks Dave for the comment :)
Mark, can you tell me. Should the tyre pressure reading be on when I turn on my 500dsx or does it only come on if the tyre pressure drops below what it should be?
Hi Colm .... I think from memory..the TPM should be showing "ok" all the time on both wheels when you switch on .... then it should give you a warning if the pressure drops below a certain level cheers mark
Thanks again for your help, unfortunately my dealer hasn't a clue what he is at. He was happy to take £6250 of me but that was it after that.
May be wrong? But the exhaust and engine sound different and too me better than the CB500X I once owned. It looks better as well.
Yes John it does have a slightly different note even though it's much the same engine:)
@@markpulling12 stay safe Johnny.
👍👍😎
it looks like you can slap cb500x parts on it. can you??
Mark, can you tell me how do I get the tyre pressure thing to work on my display. Not a thing in the user manual about it.
Thanks in advance.
Hmm the tpm is a signal sent from the tyre valves ...they have batteries which may be flat or maybe there is some form of reboot /connection Bluetooth in the settings .... failing that the dealer should be able to find out from lexmoto/ voge in Exeter
@@markpulling12
Ok, thanks so much for your advice and time.
Wish we got this in the USA.
That's a shame randy ...I thought Voge were in the USA but maybe not this model
@@markpulling12 I'm in the USA and this review is the first time I have ever heard of this brand.
Thought it was a Triumph 900GT looking at the first foto
Great bike perfect clone of the cb500x well equipped. My only thoughts are considering its the same bike the service intervals a 3000 but the honda is 8000.
Might just be playing it safe. As the honda first editions also came with a lower valve check.
Thanks yes they are definitely just playing safe ... easily stretch out to 4/5 k miles cheers mark
A Royal Enfield beater
Stonking value and spec. I wonder how many dealers there are for servicing though ?
About 150 throughout the UK Jonathan .
Much better than I thought. Thanks Mark.
Can you do a review on the Voge 500DS please?
I'll see if I can get hold of one Michael
@@markpulling12 Excellent, thank you.
difference between the DS and DSX?
DSx has wire wheels and is more off road biased cheers mark
Ground clearence ? Suspension travel ?
Sorry the specs don't give this info
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 I have searched before asking you. I have hoped that you know.
I very much like your videos but in the future , can you provide what the manufacturers don't say ?
@@fcalin21 thanks I'll try and get that info 🙂👍
These Chinese bikes look great and are cheap, but they seem to need a service every half hour.
Thanks Mike ...I guess they are just being cautious ....I'm sure they could easily go more mileage ....I'd just DIY after warranty is out ...just simply oil and filter mainly
Cheers mark
Hi👋🏻 What brand is the bag iron compatible with? Could u help me?
The bags are voge brand but they could be fitted to other bikes with correct fittings
Cheers mark
thanks for ur answer, so Is the bag hanger compatible with honda nc? Do u know?
@@mustafafilik59 hi no I don't think it would be compatible without major work it's just for the voge
Best wishes mark
Is a 3000 miles service interval good?
Not that good ... Yamaha are 6000 honda are 8000 ...but it's not an expensive bike to service
Best regards mark
@@markpulling12 A'h! I see, there is a big difference then. Thank you for this information.
Hi. How would you compare it with benelli trk 502x?
Hi I'd say the build quality and standard features on the voge is better ....the trk is a little bit more comfortable but feels heavier
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 ow, i see. So voge is more superior. In terms of power, fuel consumption, riding experience?
@@iceblaze6010 hi no the power is the same. A2 47 HP..but the suspension and brakes and general build quality are a bit better. ,Fuel consumption is the same
@@markpulling12 i see. As for the looks, pillion sit and road presence i do prefer the benelli, so as the hand guards. But the i like the screen and some other features of voge, thats why Im a bit torn on which one is the better choice. I wish to know which is better so I could decide which one to buy.
Hi mark. I'm on to buy the bike in a week or two. Which would you recommend more, ds or dsx variant?
I let my ds500 dry out of gas, and the kilometers where 321.
So 17lt for 321 ?
That's about 5,1lt per 100 kilometers.
The screen was saying 4,1lt.
Something is not right 🤔🤔🤔
Next test will be...put gas till top of the tank, do a 100 kilometers and go back again to the gas station to fill it up.
The first "kilometers per liter" test failed.
Let's see how the second test will do and find out who is the lier...
The liters per 100 kilometers meter or the kilometers meter?🤔
Thanks yes it should be about 4litres per 100 km I recon
Thanks mark
Nice bike, but I think the NC750 is (for me) a better bike....
Of course it is..With 4000 euro more
So close in price to a Honda CB500X, with the 2022 model being the best ever, that it would be madness to take the Chinese option. The Chinese economy is about to collapse, unlike Japan, so Honda is probably a safer bet. But fair credit to them, it looks to be the nicest Chinese bike yet, the Bennelli’s are trash. Now if they did this in a 1000cc Africa Twin rip off for short people, I’d be buying one now.
Thanks for the comment Graham 😊
This matches my thinking (except regarding the imminent collapse of the Chinese economy). Shopping in this class? Voge is an excellent offering. But I'd go with the Honda. Thank you, Mark.
@@skillsonian the only reason I say that is having spoken to a Chinese millionaire businessman this week. He thinks it is all coming crashing down. I trust his view. I didn’t think it was anything like that bad, but he’s losing hundreds of millions in property. I only know him thanks to a charity he supports.
@@grahamhiggins1 Interesting! Thanks. :-)
@@grahamhiggins1 Graham the Chinese property market has been hit by the government clamping down on unsustainable debt built up by by building/property companies so yes shareholders in those companies have been hit . Google Evergrande crisis.
Chinese motorcycles are quite good in these days.
Thanks George yes I agree 😊
Mr Mark I want to address - "I can't quite get my feet down flat". YOU DON'T NEED TO GET YOUR FEET DOWN FLAT or anybody for that matter. When you stop and have to balance on the ground most of your weight will be on the bike and all you need is just "balls" of your feet to keep the bike vertically. 1 foot actually is all you need. Statement - I can't quite get my feet down flat is like - I can't quite run with my feet down flat. WOW!. Who needs feet down flat when running and who needs feet down flat when riding a motorcycle; plus if you ride a bike - you RIDE it I hope and not sit in a traffic and this position is so much more important. You should not be bending your legs like a newborn of a sort most of the time only to have it feet down flat for a few seconds in traffic. Thumb up as always. I actually stopped watching Missendend Flyer as your reviews as so much better.
Thanks Great comment ....I have no problems with being on tip toes on just one leg personally....but I only just mention the feet thing because lots of people especially newcomers to biking like the security of getting the feet down ....but yes as you get more experience tip toes is fine if you are confident with that
Many thanks again :)
Jeese Mr Colostomy Bag, give Mark a break! He's just trying to show what he finds for his wide spectrum of viewers whether they be short, tall thin or wide whether they are gymnasts or couch potatoes ............... Both TMF and Mark do good bike reviews. You could learn a thing or two from either of them for your next video of your MIO .......... Never heard of it and I am still none the wiser having watched your shaky video.
I watch them Both
TMF is a nice guy as well
Two very good U Tube Channels
( it's that American Yammie Noob
I can't Stand !)
Gab whatever your silly joke of a name is. We really don't need a lecture from you about feet down. Yes we get it. As Mark said - and which you should have already understood without reminding, not everyone feels that confident, especially on cambered roads when they put their foot down at traffic lights and find there is nothing there. So please give Mark a bit of slack. He is just being helpful and doesn't need your lecture. Thanks.
Damn... 😂😂
This bike almost 90% resembles with bajaj pulsar 250f
This, or the CB500X.
I'd go for the cb500 ....the voge is good but long term the honda wins
Best wishes mark
In today's world, avoiding Chinese regime products is difficult. But consciously promoting them I consider reprehensible.
There is nothing dual purpose about these tires lol.
Never.
Looks like a copy of the Honda CB500 X.
What the hell is a Voge? Haha. Never heard of it. Its a Loncsin...chinese honda?
Yes Stuart ...that's it a Chinese honda ....the engine is a copy of the cb500 cheers mark
@@markpulling12 thanks mate. I jumped the gun a bit...became clearer as I watched the post..haha.
That engine looks like honda cb 500 rip off
Yes it is a close copy !
Cheers mark