This Simple Rule Will Improve Your Arrangements

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  • @nyxmt539
    @nyxmt539 ปีที่แล้ว +633

    With these headphones I think you’ll be able to spy on your whole neighborhood

    • @glizzyhendrix
      @glizzyhendrix ปีที่แล้ว +18

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      @tredfxman ปีที่แล้ว +20

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      @srb909 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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      @dylanpaulmusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @TheRulerRoderickSutton
    @TheRulerRoderickSutton ปีที่แล้ว +142

    How To Turn A Loop Into A Song:
    *1. Learn Song Structure.*
    This varies from genre to genre, but Pop Music has maybe the most standard song structure.
    Intro (4 bars)
    Verse (8-16)
    Chorus (8)
    Verse (8-16)
    Chorus (8)
    Bridge (4-8)
    Chorus + Outro (8-16+ bars)
    If you have a loop:
    Figure out where in the song you want the loop. If in CHORUS, then it must be lush, and you also now know that each VERSE must be a “stripped down chorus.”
    If the loop is going in the VERSE, then you know that you have to EXPAND the instrumentation to create a CHORUS.
    Simple and basic, something you can build on.
    🤷🏿‍♂️👍🏿

    • @officialstevewilson
      @officialstevewilson ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This was helpful to me. Thank you for that.

    • @zizzi9806
      @zizzi9806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks this actually really helped especially the part about the loop, and verse being a stripped down version of the chorus.

    • @christopherkouri2317
      @christopherkouri2317 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great advice to add into the bag of tricks

    • @kozihoppy
      @kozihoppy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Simple and effective 🙏🏻

    • @TimeWisely
      @TimeWisely 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I see, I see, lots of good information here, thank you

  • @axonathan
    @axonathan ปีที่แล้ว +173

    I do similar but in reverse, I generally spend time first building up my 8 bar loop with all instruments etc. When ready make multiple copies along the timeline, then delete parts in 8 bar segments to create my arrangement. Finish off with automation and transitions.

    • @hanziforever3836
      @hanziforever3836 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same. I also like 8 bar progressions because you can easily make a bridge by just dropping it an octave and make a new melody over it

    • @igorsenayoutube
      @igorsenayoutube ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I do it both your way and his way. Some days i find that progressively adding stuff as i go works better, other times going all in with the chorus and take stuff out in the intro, verse, etc works better. Its an awesome tip.

    • @DarrenCurtisMusic
      @DarrenCurtisMusic ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah, was gonna say the same thing. I start with an 8 or 16 bar thing. Jam pack it full of everything, then start deleting and arranging when I know where I want it to go. For me, it's kind of like mixing the loudest part of the track first, then working to the parts that are quieter or less full.

    • @igorsenayoutube
      @igorsenayoutube ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DarrenCurtisMusic Yep.

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This

  • @ThomasDevOnline
    @ThomasDevOnline ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Make your grid a bit bigger, I've noticed you're spending a lot of time fiddling around with a small grid and having to re-drag to select or when duplicating you can't just select first time. Alex you've helped us, let us help you lol :) x

  • @synchro505
    @synchro505 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    8 bar loops are very handy indeed. Recently learned a technique of adding two bars (or more) at the end of an 8 bar phrase to just let the chords or solo notes ring out and breathe. Almost like a fermata held by a conductor for an orchestra. Then the original or new phrase begins. It opens things up and gives the listener a more unpredictable experience.

    • @cwcpants140
      @cwcpants140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dont people prefer predictability in music?

    • @kiyoshi67
      @kiyoshi67 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cwcpants140 To a degree, yes we usually want things predictable and accessible. But little surprises still tickle our ears and expectations and overall can make things more interesting.

    • @cwcpants140
      @cwcpants140 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kiyoshi67 thats fair. I just dont know how to do it in a way that sounds good every time lol

    • @hezekiahking495
      @hezekiahking495 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Familiar > Predictable

    • @nicolekelsey9116
      @nicolekelsey9116 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no
      @@cwcpants140

  • @loztx843
    @loztx843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ngl just by watching this man i've learnt basically everything i use when producing, this man is a blessing from above

  • @user-xe7um4pv8i
    @user-xe7um4pv8i 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy helps upcoming producers when he’s not working for Lando in Cloud City.

  • @losmandu
    @losmandu ปีที่แล้ว +51

    What a teaching skill you've got 🙌

  • @Cranbearry_YouTube
    @Cranbearry_YouTube ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was so fun reading the comments section for this video. All the cool ideas others are using, it's so cool!

  • @wolfrayet25music_official
    @wolfrayet25music_official ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been doing this rule a lot. And I say the song sounds like it progresses more in a more interesting and smooth way.

  • @matttorrence2900
    @matttorrence2900 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The eight bar rule says that if you don’t pick up any chicks after visiting eight bars, don’t bother going to a ninth bar. Am I right?

    • @gadgetj5279
      @gadgetj5279 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not saying I am amused by the joke, (amusing me with a written/typed joke is basically impossible after all), but it is indeed somewhat relatable to me. You basically just explained my entire mentality when doing literally anything.

  • @itsluvu7809
    @itsluvu7809 ปีที่แล้ว

    i don’t know, maybe i’m different and special, but i don’t have problems with ideas of beat progression, bc every time, when i start doing a new song, the song comes to my head previously (melody, drums, base line - whatever)
    i stocked there in the very beginning (i started creating music in may of last year), but now i do my beats the way i said before. and i wish everyone get those feelings, too! that’s wonderful.

  • @jjohnson269
    @jjohnson269 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Yeah then we go into some cool drop that I didn’t make yet” 8:25.
    I’m with you on that; I heard (felt) it too!! Thanks for a great video.

  • @Abodazz_Music
    @Abodazz_Music ปีที่แล้ว +33

    THIS is FIRE !!
    This method is gonna help a lots of producers who have got tons of "Unfinished Beats" in their library .
    ( Writer's Block ) is something that i suffer because of so often , most of the times i bulid a verse and stop producing because i don't know what to make next ..... A PRO TIP that i learned by time was that ( Using a 4 bars , simple , repetitive melody is much better than using a 64 bars long melody that got tohusands of variations , a simple melody can be easily remembered which can make get stuck in the listener's head )
    Yo Alex , Thanks for the tutorial .

  • @Darkscore8
    @Darkscore8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve taken your lessons like this and applied them to the music I write and it’s been really helpful man thank you. And I write death metal 😂

  • @aussiesimmo
    @aussiesimmo ปีที่แล้ว +16

    An 8 bar phrase has been the building block of EDM for as long as I can remember. This is so that a DJ can start the track their mixing at the beginning of a phrase so elements in each track begin and end at the same time. Your mix sounds off if you miss it and you have random percussion/hats and periods of no bass.

  • @joedriver2588
    @joedriver2588 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really glad Alex switched to Ableton. I haven't watched his channel in some time, but now will be watching again.

  • @LokiBeckonswow
    @LokiBeckonswow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    shift+up or down when in your midi window to shift selected notes up or down an octave

  • @PersonalTreyner
    @PersonalTreyner 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are a great teacher. Appreciate all the lessons!

  • @bonzo230
    @bonzo230 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mother of God those headphones are gigantic!

  • @DJSockmonkeyMusic
    @DJSockmonkeyMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to work in 16 and 32 bar segments personally, but 8 bar segments are good too. I never use 4 bar segments.

  • @genegene2417
    @genegene2417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This melody is stuck in my head now. Can't wait to hear the full song from it!

  • @xbeatz808.official
    @xbeatz808.official ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow. Wow. That really removed all of my writer's block! That is good to know. Thank you so much!!!

  • @paralleluniverseexists
    @paralleluniverseexists ปีที่แล้ว

    This is something which I figured out in Ableton Live loops section, start simple as a beginnner if you have this problem...I started with a launchkey, and loops which came with it from Loopmasters...Start doing the same....

  • @Befffy
    @Befffy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been kinda watching your stuff in passing for a year. THIS TIP THO is bellworthy.

  • @thaexception3406
    @thaexception3406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8 bars is how I mostly work, but depends on tempo too. Key message right here!

  • @the_cursor
    @the_cursor ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking at those headphones makes my neck hurt. Excellent tutorial.

  • @guiv2810
    @guiv2810 ปีที่แล้ว

    been watching you for years now , you keep getting better Alex. Thank you

  • @ryangunz2390
    @ryangunz2390 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I really love your videos so chill yet still a little funny! Such good stuff brother thank you! 🙏

  • @SmokeConsciousHipHop
    @SmokeConsciousHipHop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is seriously good advice, been doing this for a while and it rarely fails to make every piece of a track shine.

  • @Jath2112
    @Jath2112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really appreciate the work you put into your channel, it's cool to see someone taking the time to help people unlock their creativity. Cheers man. Keep it up!

  • @ManderMurduh
    @ManderMurduh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always, another video of yours really helped me. I'm just learning all this stuff and have 0 musical experience so it's difficult but your content is always easy to understand and explains things perfectly.

  • @RyanTheMetaphor
    @RyanTheMetaphor ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the videos, such solid lessons! They me want to keep practicing!

  • @juliangarcia-hernandez8850
    @juliangarcia-hernandez8850 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alex Rome, never stop making tutorials. You rock man!

  • @GhostsInSpace_
    @GhostsInSpace_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos! So clear and easy to understand.

  • @bboybrumley
    @bboybrumley ปีที่แล้ว

    This tutorial got an INSTANT subscribe. Incredibly helpful. You seem like a great teacher. Thank you 🙏

  • @Stadsjaap
    @Stadsjaap ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great, clear, simple and instantly useable advice, maestro. Well done!

  • @evanclark2704
    @evanclark2704 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy the way you describe your process. You keep the video interesting like the song!

  • @tonydofficials
    @tonydofficials ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a amazing teacher bro. Respect!

  • @lunallenawav
    @lunallenawav ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much on showing what Automation does!!! I had a lot of trouble changing the melody, but with Automation, I can fade it out and bring it back in ❤️

  • @Anna29839
    @Anna29839 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! This was extremely useful. I'm really thankful for your vids, buddy❤️

  • @waliddeui6725
    @waliddeui6725 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:00 i'm done soooooooo angelic 〽️

  • @fengziya
    @fengziya ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want the full version so bad for the demo song he makes every time

  • @MrMattyProduces
    @MrMattyProduces ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing tutorial Alex....Welldone!!!!

  • @livingsouloftimestudio2887
    @livingsouloftimestudio2887 ปีที่แล้ว

    DUDE THANK YOU, I'm a visual learner and tho there's material in text that explains it doesent really sink in until I see it done so I can understand the concept and the steps to understand the transition, thanks again subbed

  • @Alvaro-hq9gg
    @Alvaro-hq9gg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, u re so good. Thanks for your videos💯💯

  • @djicebreaker80
    @djicebreaker80 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tips, love the 8 bar rule.. especially for trance and use automation & layered leads with mid leads to make it sound amazing..

  • @Lol_Pig
    @Lol_Pig ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad I found your channel. Most of the subject matters seems basic on its face, but basics are where all the magic happens. Good to be reminded of this from time to time. Cheers!

  • @jpventuro
    @jpventuro ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic tutorial! Thanks!

  • @moonsagemook4rmyumegakure405
    @moonsagemook4rmyumegakure405 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much this was right on time for!!! Subbing for sure

  • @Leeishaam
    @Leeishaam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me your explaination is simple and best so far. As a newbie to produce music !
    It is.. v' easy to understand and learn from you.
    🤟 thanks bro

  • @DeliaLaven
    @DeliaLaven ปีที่แล้ว

    This is *SO AMAZING* ! I'm a beginner in composing music and this is such a great tip. Definitely I will use it! Thank you so much!!!🔥🔥🔥

  • @davidnsubuga1638
    @davidnsubuga1638 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! Thank you.

  • @kaellferreira1939
    @kaellferreira1939 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so helpful!! Thank you

  • @itsdjQuasar
    @itsdjQuasar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well done! I STILL sometimes forget all the ways to transition (been producing for quite a while, now). Thinking about it as "front and back" will definitely help when I'm writing a transition and it isn't quite working. I also hadn't thought (consciously) about the fact that you need a mix of subtle and not-so-subtle transitions. Thanks!

  • @mauhu
    @mauhu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's verry important to know that this method can help, but totally doesn't have to be aplied to every song you make, for example ambient and atmospheric tracks don't need to change that much because they feel like they play in the backgound, and feel less active. High bpm tracks also don't need to change every 8 bars, because you have less time per bar, it therefore becomes less boring (after 8 bars).

  • @maddoxraburnmusic
    @maddoxraburnmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to you, you gave me some of song ideas that i used for my songs on youtube! Thanks a lot!

  • @PabloDeModeOfficial
    @PabloDeModeOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! It would be a nice idea to do a follow up video showing how to finish this (type of) song in a proper way. Your tutorials are gems!

  • @kerwinfernandes9583
    @kerwinfernandes9583 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this great tip. God bless 🙂🙏🏼❤️

  • @Watts660
    @Watts660 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, what a simple but effective idea, gonna try this out. Thanks.

  • @RayanKhan_
    @RayanKhan_ ปีที่แล้ว

    It's been a long time since I'm watching your videos and they're genuinely fab and amazing and that feeling goes damn wow ♥️, May god bless you, keep goin

  • @No.Pressure
    @No.Pressure ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dude this helped me out a lot , will be applying this ASAP.

  • @Alex_Glass
    @Alex_Glass ปีที่แล้ว

    Alex big tnx for all your video 💜Its amazing 💫You are the best 🤗

  • @TheeSamuraiG
    @TheeSamuraiG ปีที่แล้ว

    This was one of my favorite tutorials I’ve ever seen fr

  • @andrejones8500
    @andrejones8500 ปีที่แล้ว

    This Man Can Make EPIC JAMS every time he makes a video

  • @ibensongitau
    @ibensongitau ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is incredible!

  • @beatsbyon2821
    @beatsbyon2821 ปีที่แล้ว

    went through when I first started video editing, now it's taking a whole new switch and learning soft will only boost my courage for the

  • @gbigbo_zjebeezjeboo
    @gbigbo_zjebeezjeboo ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent ! Useful and very good explained !

  • @jr_oantonio
    @jr_oantonio ปีที่แล้ว

    sounding really good! IMO, something cool to use in transitions is silence too. ... just love it. Builds tension like nothing else

  • @NLongleng
    @NLongleng ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the great tips

  • @jmcoffin1
    @jmcoffin1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really helpful stuff… Thank you!!

  • @trashkuldar6864
    @trashkuldar6864 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a new starter for making music, i really love your tutorials and tips videos they are simple and on point to me to understand hope u will get more subscriber on this platform peace ^^

  • @sayanthtezro
    @sayanthtezro ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, i've been struggling with arrangements recently. This will help me a lot.

  • @Azim_Erg
    @Azim_Erg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good job bro, thank you very much!

  • @FireyEclipse
    @FireyEclipse ปีที่แล้ว

    You with those headphones and then the “I think that was hot” IM DEAD HAHAHAHA

  • @johntyler_music
    @johntyler_music ปีที่แล้ว

    Ur content is always gold, keep it up 👍

  • @Mad_ManX
    @Mad_ManX ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Tut' Alex , Going back to Basic's !!!

  • @nicolekelsey9116
    @nicolekelsey9116 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks for the tips brody
    peace love and light

  • @helisoma
    @helisoma ปีที่แล้ว

    First time seeing your channel...great approach and nice progression...subbed!

  • @jonre6214
    @jonre6214 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love seeing deep melodic theory like this I agree with everything you said sir 🔥🔥

  • @johncitizen8828
    @johncitizen8828 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was great. More videos on arrangement would be awesome. 👍

  • @T-Loud
    @T-Loud ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff! Appreciate the tips, keep it up 👍

  • @sammyvibez610
    @sammyvibez610 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always buddy 🐐🐐

  • @dagalost1949
    @dagalost1949 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a beginner, you just saved me. I subscribe🙃

  • @XVYashar
    @XVYashar ปีที่แล้ว

    I love all of your melody

  • @samuelkerry7465
    @samuelkerry7465 ปีที่แล้ว

    One love for this one.i give you 5 stars

  • @nopeacewithoutjustice6133
    @nopeacewithoutjustice6133 ปีที่แล้ว

    alex, i love your videos. even if other youtubers explains the same things, your videos are so much more palatable and your presence is very welcoming. will you do a video on LUFS? I am struggling with making my songs sound as loud as they should on spotify.

  • @buildyourdreams7338
    @buildyourdreams7338 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many many thanks.

  • @spartamuzic
    @spartamuzic ปีที่แล้ว

    well done, thats the way it is 💪💪💪

  • @dtfluker1617
    @dtfluker1617 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was super inspiring 👏 🙌

  • @VentureNW
    @VentureNW ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see you are back and working in Ableton!

  • @matviymsuic
    @matviymsuic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very useful technique as always 🙏❤️🔥

  • @DJBre
    @DJBre 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good stuff Alex

  • @asci1
    @asci1 ปีที่แล้ว

    this helped a ton, thanks man :)

  • @ScotDykstra
    @ScotDykstra ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info and ideas, Ive been struggling a little with arrangements lately. I get really excited about making a cool intro/drop that I lose sight of the rest of the song..

  • @Dan_Corkery
    @Dan_Corkery ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Nice one, Alex..a simple technique that somehow seems to be overlooked by many, yet with this alone, a person can build a pretty solid track..as you just demonstrated in a clear and easy-to-follow way. Kudos..this video is pure gold..advice that could save folks a hell of a lot of time and money.

    • @YouTubeOfficialReviewerAccount
      @YouTubeOfficialReviewerAccount ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel like sticking to it too much will make your songs feel mathematic and generic. I think the mixing community has forgot a bit that music is firstly art and you shouldn’t stick too much to guidelines because it won’t make you evolve. I still think it’s great for drafts tho

  • @howtowithkel3352
    @howtowithkel3352 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanation, this is 32 beat phrasing. If you listen, it's in just about every track ever.

  • @jay-leeofficialcctv
    @jay-leeofficialcctv ปีที่แล้ว

    Really helpful video about arrangement and structure 💯🏆

  • @marcopoulos3493
    @marcopoulos3493 ปีที่แล้ว

    Killer tips. Thankz

  • @bassiboy4life
    @bassiboy4life ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video mate thank you