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When I was a teenager, I read Sassy faithfully-- I can't even explain how different it was from other fashion/teen magazines of the time. It was the equivalent of having a cool older cousin who was in college and could talk to you frankly about life, rather than sugar-coating things like most adults. It's hard for me to pick just one life-changing thing I read there, but two of the articles I think hit me hardest were: 1) an article about women's colleges that completely shifted the trajectory of my life and 2) an article about a teenage heroin addict that had no simple solution or conclusion-- one of my favorite pieces of journalism where the author is wrestling with her own conscience, trying to report the unglamorous truth without enabling or exploiting her subject
I once read a knitting pattern from ~ 1870s, where it said to use cheap yarn for the childrens scarfs, since 'they WILL loose them'. I don't know why, but that was such a humans-being-humans moment, I stopped and chuckled.
I tend to avoid most fashion magazines like the plague. The only exception is Vogue. Years ago in the dinosaur age, I read several articles on the importance of having gynecological check ups no matter how old you were. They discussed types of cancer that were most prevalent in women, how to prevent them, etc. A few dealt with AIDS, they didn't blame the AIDS victim, but stressed that contact --- non sexual--- would not spread the disease and how people with AIDS deserved care, compassion and a cure.
It's almost like these publications have always had important information in them, and were just characterized as "frivolous" because they were "for women" . . .
@@SnappyDragon So true. It's as if women were good for one thing --- the birthing and bringing up of children. The patriarchy did not want anything to stress 'our poor feeble brains'.
When I was a kid, back in the 70s, my mother liked Women's Day and Family Circle, which were more cooking and crafts and less fashion. There were serialized stories there, too. One thing that was very important pre-radio and phonographs was reading aloud. Serialized stories were very good for this - while everyone else does low light handwork around the fire (knitting, basting, long seams), someone reads an installment of the story. Reading therefore becomes a communal affair, with reactions and possibly discussion. Reading aloud was a skill people cultivated and valued.
I love that about reading aloud! Honestly, it feels so similar to putting on an audiobook or podcast while I sew. Keeps my brain occupied, makes me feel like I'm not working by myself, and keeps me going until the story or episode or chapter is done.
@@SnappyDragon I love listening to an audiobook or a podcast when I knit or cook, or just play with my color by number app. I feel like I absorb things better when my hands are busy.
So like audio books or binge watching or rewatching while hand sewing today...or TH-cam that I only half listen to sometimes wen resting or doing something else and just want background noise
This reminds me of the pictures of a young boys math book from a couple hundred years ago. The math book was filled with all sorts of sketches on the pages, most of which included what we presume to be his dog. People have always been people and it is lovely to be reminded of that
I was into lolita fashion back in the day (early 00s) and had a collection of Japanese Gothic Lolita Bibles and loved that they always came with sewing patterns. From skirts/dresses to bonnets. Which at that time it was almost impossible to get any lolita here in the states. When they finally started making english versions I was so excited but was quickly disappointed that there were no patterns included (hope that has changed since I moved on). At least they also promoted small American brands at a time where it was still hard to get actual brand into the states.
"Brown people are not interchangeable." My son whose father is Filipino (I'm white) has been called Chinese SO many times. Nothing wrong with being Chinese, but not all Asians are Chinese!
@@giovanninasuluh W Euro colonialists called SE Asian Chinese (+Indians + Japanese?) the Jews of SE Asia. In 1960s ? Taiwan Province had an Al Jolson !! imitator (black face make up white Euro American or W Euro actor, singer, etc.) That singer, who sang false US African American dialect. The Taiwan Chinese, singer also used E Euro Ashkenaz Jewish klezmer dance music during breaks. (Did he use Yiddish to sing?--- re all Oy very !!!) breaks (did he also sing in Yiddish,
My school yearbook this year (along with many other errors such as cutting people's last names in half, accidentally copying and pasting a band and listing them as a choir and thus not listing those actual choir members, and fully declaring one of our school produtions as another one) mixed up almost all of our Asian students this year. All throughout the yearbook, they've been miscredited and switched around with one another. Really stupidly enforcing that idiotic idea that "all Asians look the same"
I agree that all ethnicities aren't interchangeable, and applaud more representation of those who have been historically underrepresented, but this fixation on the finer points of ethnicity worries me. What matters most is the person themselves, not their genetic underpinnings, etc. Sure, it's a wonderful part of who they are, but it's not the whole person, so to speak. For example, in looking for a job, I'd rather not be considered for my gender or race. My resume should speak for itself. I can stand on my own two feet, and that's how it should be.
you’re definitely not wrong about the editorial content mostly being sponsored content. part of why a lot of us vogue covers come under fire for a lack of creativity is because they have to meet mandates by the brands paying for the content (so like prada for example casts the models, does the styling in all their products etc and vogue just acts like that’s their team’s work). the advertising and sponsorship aspect is such a big part that here in south africa virtually 98% of women’s magazines have had to shut down since the pandemic because there aren’t any brands willing to pay for advertising and advertorials anymore. this was a great dive, the aquarium thing sounds amazing.
When I was a teenager/young adult, a magazine came out here in France that did take the "women's" content + literary content approach. Its fashion content also focused a lot more on the history of trends than on "here's what to wear this month! [Product placement]" so it was a blessing for my weird historybounding, likes clothes but hates following trends teenage self lol. On top of the fashion, music and literary articles they always had a short story at the end. I don't actually know if it's still published but it had a lot to do with reconciling me with the idea of fashion as something more than just arbitrary rules to get harrassed for not following lol.
When I was 10 or 11, I found mom's old Cosmos. As far as I remeber it had pretty ok information about sex life, it definitely had few short stories per issue, and some social commentery too. I vividly remeber one about loving your body, not adoring how it looks no matter what, but realysing it's needs and keeping it as healthy as it can be. And it should have been printed between 2000 and 2008 in Russia.
A friend gave me a copy of a January 1912 McCall's magazine, and it is FASCINATING. So much of it is exactly like the magazines of today; there's even an article on home redecorating that wouldn't be out of place on Pinterest.
Hmmm, I think the most interesting thing I've seen in a vintage magazine was using cold cream as a way to remove sci-fi make up. It seems silly but their products were much harsher than what is used now but cold cream still works and I've used it a ton during gigs!
Oh for sure! When I did theatre that's how I took my makeup off, and now I still use cold cream to take off cosplay makeup (for the most part. Stuff like glued-on Bajoran nose ridges take a little more elbow grease, but a cold cream handles most of the powders and paints and stuff all right).
Strange how differently people describe themselves in regards to age! I was 18 in 1995 and I don't yet think of myself as older or younger, just as 44. Although what I usually say is "I'm 44 but can't wait to turn 50" which is true. But I never had children (because I never wanted them) so I do think that makes a bit of difference in how I perceive myself.
When writing an article about anxiety for my highschool newspaper, I found an article for vogue about children and teens experiencing it, and the pros and cons of safe spaces as opposed exposure to uncomfortable situations, which I found interesting
This reminds me of the newspaper I found from Boston Massachusetts 1893. The advertising was so similar to modern newspaper ads, but they were trying to sell horses rather than cars. One ad gushed about the lace curtain sale that was being extended by popular demand. The HUGE difference was in the want ads. So many read something like: position available. Seeking housekeeper, new arrivals okay, no German, Italian or Irish. 😳
Okay, so we want the better content-to-advertising ratio back, but the 1890s can keep the extra racism. We (clearly) still have far too much of that around.
@@SnappyDragon Agreed! I don't waste money on magazines anymore because they are mostly ads. That racism though blew my mind, like shit that's not even the least bit subtle.
Love how you’re shifting to more historical deep dive videos in addition to all the pretty dress sewing! Also you’re so gorgeous!! Keep up the good work!
If a random stranger on the street had told me the Cosmo had an article about abelism in a positive light, I would have thought they were lying. I am glad to see Cosmo has bettered its ways a bit.
This was a fascinating video! I remember as a kid spending HOURS reading some old ladies magazines from the 30s. I don’t remember which magazine it was but she had bags of them in her closet. I used to read Cosmo occasionally when I was in my 20s, but now I read science and history magazines. I’m really looking forward to downloading some of these 19th century magazines and ensconcing myself in history again. Thanks for all you do!
It was the early 80's. My dad was flipping through my mom's copy of Cosmopolitan. He asked me, "This is your MOTHER'S magazine?" (It was full of pictures of half naked women.)🤣
I have so many allergies that any magazines that have perfume in the pages are just not an option for me to look at. Learning what is in said magazines makes me rather glad that my allergies have made it impossible for me to read so many advertisements.
Wow, never heard a north american mention Māori folks! There's deffo not enough Pasifika/Māori representation in modelling here in NZ, though we're trying to do better these days with other media. I have a friend who is half-white/Palangi/Pākehā and half-Samoan, and while he's one of those people everyone loves because he is so friendly and kind, partnered with such a vivacious personality & unique great sense of style (and who everyone thus thinks should be a model), when we travelled we found people in America often thought he was middle eastern or from some kind of Hispanic/Latino ancestry, while people here in NZ who don't know him often think he's Pakistani or Middle Eastern too (or "broadly PI", i.e. has mixed Pasifika ancestry). He said he likes looking "racially ambiguous" mostly, but there is a bit of the outsider feeling too, as he doesn't "look Samoan enough" to his Samoan friends, but he's also "too brown" for white folks (not my words, his words). I can't imagine experiencing the same thing as him, as I'm very much white (well... kind of white-passing tbh but that's super complicated) but the whole idea of not fitting in with any heritage and people thinking they know where your ancestors etc came from is relatable for sure (if only to a lesser degree). Tbh my mum though everyone in the 17th and 18th centuries had Graves' disease (bulgy eyes) until I reminded her about the hapsbergs, so the weirdest things are "in vogue " at different times, but I just think we need to absolutely normalise all people in all histories, and do our best to celebrate everyone as they are now--not just white folks and whatever weird racial assignations they say ppl are according to "fashion" or whatever
Considering how influential social media is on modern fashion trends and the rise of old timey aesthetics like cottagecore, it isn't surprising that fashion magazines have stumbled across the historical costuming community. Not sure if the ruff will be making a comeback any time soon though.
Given that ruffs were _meant_ to be impractical, they’re unlikely to make a reappearance in general fashion, given that even celebrities like to wear clothes that are at least slightly practical much of the time nowadays.
I assume that all fashion magazines are 100% ad content, especially when I see them only pushing $100+ beauty creams and serums when there are plenty of very good to much better ones that exist in the $7 - $17 range AND Dr. Drey and Sandra Bankson have already raked the magazine choices over the coals. If the dermatologist says it’s crap but the article says it is the only cream that works… I smell ad dollars hiding behind an article front. Even reading Martha Stewart Living, it so much selling and high end at that. “Oh, those are cute table napkins. Wow, $75. . . Each.”
Cosmo, and to a lesser extent Harper's Bazaar, started out as a more general knowledge/story publishing magazines. Cosmo was actually geared towards men until about the 50's/60's.
"The Cosmopolitan" went through a host of major changes between 1886 and 1965, when Helen Gurley Brown (author of "Sex and the Single Girl") took over as editor.
I once read an article on winter skin care tips in an issue of American Girl magazine from the library, it has stuck in my brain since I read it in my tweens/early teens and I am 22 now. I think that it had some good advice to help prevent dry skin in the winter months, like being careful not to shower in too hot water, etc.
I remember reading teen vogue in middle school. I thought it was cool to learn about things teens and young adults could do in the fashion world, since at the time all I wanted was to be a designer. I used to take the outfits and re-design them into my sketch book all the time, often changing the colors, cuts, length, etc to fit my own tastes. I don't remember the last time I picked up a physical fashion mag though. Too many ads and diets, not enough content.
D’you know, in the 80s, there were still shorter (novella length) stories in girlie magazines at times - maybe not Cosmo, but I remember a magazine for teenage girls in Germany which published stories spread out over several weeks’ editions.
WOW, really surprised about Cosmo. Also, I find it funny that us weirdos who dress strange have garnered enough attention that it has come back around to my mother, who will call me up and tell me how "vintage" is such a huge thing now. (Wow, could it be that I'm finally going to be socially acceptable, fashion wise?) Vogue, prior to the Panda Demonic times, had snippets of books, and interesting little stories in it. [sigh, I miss my pre-plague Vogue.]
I think the one "childrens'" magazine I got as a kid was either Norwegian or Finnish, and it definitely did have stories! I wish it hadn't gone out of fashion.
Yeah, I have seen stories in Finnish magazines. Often they might be teaser chapters from new books or similar. And of course, there are magazines consisting entirely of (often steamy) stories that young women read.
this was so fascinating!!!! i love seeing how historical people are all just as human as we are today. it's one of the best parts of learning about history, i think. thank you for bringing us along on your exploration ^_^
I didn't know this. Interesting. Reminds me of my time in a special collections library where I curated a fashion collection from the Victorian era. Thanks.
Your videos are so interesting! I love the way you contrast and connect the dots between the past and recent social trends. It all seeps into our collective moral compass. I signed up for Skill Share.
Seeing the fashion plates reminded me that when I was in college, years and years ago, I took an optional class in costume history. One of the projects we did was to take our measurements and draw our own fashion figure based on those measurements with a one-and-a-half-inch head, which is an industry standard. I am a short stout girl even when I was less than 100 pounds, but the instructor didn't accept the 'portly' figure I came up with and told me to redo my numbers. However, I was majoring in math, so I knew my numbers were good. What I did next was to recalculate my measurements with a head that was one inch high. Using a photocopier, I verified that the two figures were pretty much the same and handed in the smaller one, which the instructor accepted. (Yes, I did the work. I didn't just shrink the first figure, lol.) One of the points of this project was to see how thin a figure was with a one-and-a-half-inch head, so I could see her point. Btw, I remember "women's magazines" in the 1970's and 80's publishing short fiction and excerpts of novels. (I think Redbook may have been a leader in this sort of thing.)
I was between sips! When I was a kid my dad would do a running cometary through movies. It drove me crazy. But among the annoying “that’s a 6 shooter he’s out of shot” was the “that actor is... not whatever they were pretending to be”. My son and father still go on about the Lone Ranger movie and the casting
I used to work in magazine publishing.... advertorials are paid for by the company whose products are feature. and if there wasn't as much advertising in the magazine it would either be a lot smaller (fewer pages) or it would cost a lot more to buy. (I do not buy magazines!)
That's pretty much what I figured. I don't think I'd ever actually *bought* a fashion magazine in my life before this! Random ones keep getting mailed to my salon for free.
That was brilliant!! Absolutely loved this I haven’t bought magazines since the 90’s. I used to buy the cheap ones at the checkout if I was feeling rich. There was a story and usually patterns for a few things. I think I will look up some historical magazines and have a look through. Might be fun or will add half a dozen ideas to my growing list of things I would like to do!!! Also thanks for the comment that brown people are not interchangeable!! The world is a messed up place. This are changing slowly but there’s still a push to be white passing. Mostly to lessen the fear of police and discrimination.
You're so welcome! I believe it was Sir Terry that said something like "People are not fundamentally good, or bad, they're just fundamentally *people.* "
I absolutely love your videos. They are very informative. You should have your own show on the Smithsonian channel or one of the National Geographic channels or maybe on one of the Discovery channels. I for one would be tuning in. Thanks for all your hard work. 💖💖💖💖💖
I was lucky enough to find about a hundred women's magazines at an estate sale a few years ago and I love reading them. It's really a peak into the ideals of the times. They're from the 40's and 50's mostly. I found the articles to be much longer- probably due to less entertainment options, like you said. Can you link your source for the vintage magazines? I'd love to check it out!
I think people thought they could sell things if they got their products out there in front of people's eyes, and that's what they started to advertise in magazines. Then it just took people a while to realize that a text box hidden at the back of the magazine was not a very effective strategy of getting in front of people's eyes. So they adapted. Fast-forward a century or so and now we've got a 40% to 60% advert-to-content ratio as a result. Hooray. 😵
this video was posted a long time ago, but I wanted to add my own tidbits of knowledge to this. I'm doing my master's research project on fashion advertisement in daily newspapers between 1890 and 1920 (in Montreal), and I'm not quite done yet, but it is obvious already how advertisement size increased significantly during the period. By around 1910, you first start to see full page advertisements, whereas it is basically unheard of before. Serialized stories (which, yes, were part of daily newspapers) also seem to disappear over the period, although they appear to be replaced by strip comics instead (in the saturday prints at least). I think the progression might be slower in weekly or monthly print press, but I'm wondering about it. Might have more to say when I'm further along with my research.
Oof the bit about modeling. I briefly was interested in it as a kid and my mother INSISTED my official information could not say I was Egyptian. She wanted to put down Mediterranean 🤮. It's not technically "wrong" but Mediterranean is usually only understood to mean spicy Europe.
In other news I really love the 19th century magazines because of useful they are for understanding the culture of the time (and free sewing patterns). I kind of wish we still had so much "diy" content in ours, and I've bounced around the idea of a North African magazine with friends that's DIY content with patterns for cultural fashions that was inspired by this + European folk dress pattern books and mags.
@@idrisa7909 I would love to see that magazine!! admittedly, i wouldn't really be able to financially support it cuz i'm poor, but the concept sounds great!!
@@elfinvale and I can't start it bc I'm poor, lol! Currently I have a blog I'm working on for Egyptian fashion which hopefully will at least be something.
I gave up on magazines as a teenager (~15 years ago) as I preferred the internet. I discovered Guinea Pig Magazine a couple of years ago, and it's a delight to flick through. The models are of course gorgeous 😂
On one hand I really appreciated and enjoyed this video. But one the other, it provided an excuse to continue procrastinating! I shouldn't even be leaving this comment cause the day is almost over and I need to get things done. So Im just gonna say thanks and get going. That is the thing I shall do now... now I will get to work... no more procrastinating... gonna go to work now, promise. ... yep ... work ... maybe I need to read a magazine article on how to stop procrastinating?
We have some silver-fish nibbled Godey's up in the attic, and yes, everything reads better when it's got context. I prefer drawings for menswear, I emphasize menswear, such as in the Appearal Arts illustrations, simply because it shows me the exact style line and proportions that are suggested for such wonderful woolen lovelies. But that's classic menswear, which in general relies on more subtlety for the individual, unlike womenswear
You were so close when you pointed out that the 1900s "models" were drawn. It wasnt about some beauty standard or anti diversity. All the figures were the same because one or two artists had to churn out every single one of those pictures fast and cheap. The figure they were drawn on was so much less important then the clothes that it wasnt a consideration to differentiate them. The history of illustration is very interesting.
But today's medical articles can be very bad. There was one that stated that the effect of homeopathy is undeniable (in the sense that undeniably it has an effect) but how it works is unclear. This made me so furious because here in Germany our homeopathy law is so messed up that doctors are suied for saying that homeopathy does not work over the placebo effect (which is the current scientific consensus). Currently there is a huge discussion about this. And jet this magazine states the effect is undisputed. I actually wrote the editor and she actually defended the article stating this was OK. This article was spreading straight up lies
We do still have them, you can find them if you search hard for them. But they mostly do it as a hobby next to their job because there is so little demand for it that it is not enough to feed their families.
@@laartje24 It also depends on where you live; you’re much more likely to find a dressmaker near you if you live in or near a major city than if you have to make it a day trip (it may be only 75 minutes away by car, or two hours away by bus, but buses don’t go more than once or twice a day in each direction) if you want to visit the nearest small one.
I like to buy a copy of Vogue from time to time. I even like the perfume ads. (I use the ones I like as sachets.) There are lots of advertisements but I understand it. Modern magazines are expensive to make, especially with all the full color photography. It's like publishing a premium book every month. It not only takes $$$ but also a lot of time and effort. This makes me wonder though, how are they able to document what the current fashion trends are "now" when the fashion layouts were designed and the photos shot 9-12 months previously? There's gotta be some kind of time-travel, conspiracy theory thing involved. 😉 I love old magazines, too, especially the fashion plates, but they have issues. They're just too stylized. Like take a look at the tiny feet. If we took them seriously we'd have to come to the conclusion that foot binding was wildly popular in the first half of the 19th century. Also, the construction in the Regency plates is way off. What we see in the plates doesn't match the construction techniques that we know were used at the time. We can get ideas about necklines, hems and trims but not so much how clothing was made.
Random thought reguarding the large pockets hidden amoungst big dresses, would it be possible to create a pocket that could fit en entire gun or other modern weapons???? Asking this for curiosity reasons. or writing purposes.
14:00 I'm not sure if we actually pay for the magazine or the advertising companies pay for them (the actual editors, offices, etc...), and then we pay for the paper and printing.
Your summing-up had me grinning; it reminded me of all the reasons I dislike “women’s magazines ! Most of their contents are on my list of things I don’t want to talk about! I know being a high-functioning autistic accounts for a great deal of my tendency to categorise anything I don’t talk about as “gossip “ - but so much of it is just that!
I think if there were fewer ads in those magazines they'd be pretty much unaffordable for the buyer and therefore unprofitable for the publishers - at least that's what I've read. But I agree with you, magazines in general (and I don't buy them much, only the occasional Royal Special issue) have lots of, if not too many, advertisements in most of them. But it must pay for the companies who place those ads. And they very nearly do the same thing ads on tv do - no matter how low you have the volume, as soon as the ads come on you fall off your chair. In the magazines it's all the colour in the advertising spreads, even if the rest of the mags are colour as well, the ads turn it up a notch.
Sad you didn't mention how Louis Vuitton with literally trying to sell purses with a naked woman in bed. That's got to be a different and undesirable difference. Also, are those spoon earrings?
I paused the video right at that part to see. You leave the bow end 3 inches longer than it needs to be, then fold it over underneath and sew it in place. The bow is held onto you with a pin, and you then have a tiny pocket for train tickets or whatever other little bitty things you have.
Re: brown people not being interchangeable...as a Kiwi, it's not unusual to see our Māori actors who get overseas film roles play a whole host of different POC. 🤦🏼♀️
Yeah, and often with their usual Kiwi accents too, which can be pretty weird in context! 🤪 But despite the issues, it is at least great to see tangata whenua actors getting international respect for their skills, despite all the barriers still facing indigenous peoples & those from smaller nations...?
I mean. TEEN VOGUE is often more politically relevant than traditional newspapers. My mother had a bunch of fashion magazines from early 20th century/late 19th and I read them with delight. The descriptions of the clothes, the cuts, the fabrics ! So stimmy !!
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When I was a teenager, I read Sassy faithfully-- I can't even explain how different it was from other fashion/teen magazines of the time. It was the equivalent of having a cool older cousin who was in college and could talk to you frankly about life, rather than sugar-coating things like most adults. It's hard for me to pick just one life-changing thing I read there, but two of the articles I think hit me hardest were: 1) an article about women's colleges that completely shifted the trajectory of my life and 2) an article about a teenage heroin addict that had no simple solution or conclusion-- one of my favorite pieces of journalism where the author is wrestling with her own conscience, trying to report the unglamorous truth without enabling or exploiting her subject
I am so disappointed this was before my time!
I once read a knitting pattern from ~ 1870s, where it said to use cheap yarn for the childrens scarfs, since 'they WILL loose them'. I don't know why, but that was such a humans-being-humans moment, I stopped and chuckled.
Lol that’s one of mine!! Of the three kids one always knew where her stuff was. One never knew and the third was in between!
I think used clothes at least for the littlest should be the norm, why waste money when they will loose get dirty and constantly outgrow?
I tend to avoid most fashion magazines like the plague. The only exception is Vogue. Years ago in the dinosaur age, I read several articles on the importance of having gynecological check ups no matter how old you were. They discussed types of cancer that were most prevalent in women, how to prevent them, etc. A few dealt with AIDS, they didn't blame the AIDS victim, but stressed that contact --- non sexual--- would not spread the disease and how people with AIDS deserved care, compassion and a cure.
It's almost like these publications have always had important information in them, and were just characterized as "frivolous" because they were "for women" . . .
@@SnappyDragon So true. It's as if women were good for one thing --- the birthing and bringing up of children. The patriarchy did not want anything to stress 'our poor feeble brains'.
When I was a kid, back in the 70s, my mother liked Women's Day and Family Circle, which were more cooking and crafts and less fashion. There were serialized stories there, too.
One thing that was very important pre-radio and phonographs was reading aloud. Serialized stories were very good for this - while everyone else does low light handwork around the fire (knitting, basting, long seams), someone reads an installment of the story. Reading therefore becomes a communal affair, with reactions and possibly discussion. Reading aloud was a skill people cultivated and valued.
I love that about reading aloud! Honestly, it feels so similar to putting on an audiobook or podcast while I sew. Keeps my brain occupied, makes me feel like I'm not working by myself, and keeps me going until the story or episode or chapter is done.
@@SnappyDragon I love listening to an audiobook or a podcast when I knit or cook, or just play with my color by number app. I feel like I absorb things better when my hands are busy.
So like audio books or binge watching or rewatching while hand sewing today...or TH-cam that I only half listen to sometimes wen resting or doing something else and just want background noise
I absolutely love fact that there was a bit about building aquariums in there. Super interesting comparison :)
I know, right?! I would not have even thought of *building* aquariums as a normal DIY craft thing.
This reminds me of the pictures of a young boys math book from a couple hundred years ago. The math book was filled with all sorts of sketches on the pages, most of which included what we presume to be his dog. People have always been people and it is lovely to be reminded of that
I was into lolita fashion back in the day (early 00s) and had a collection of Japanese Gothic Lolita Bibles and loved that they always came with sewing patterns. From skirts/dresses to bonnets. Which at that time it was almost impossible to get any lolita here in the states. When they finally started making english versions I was so excited but was quickly disappointed that there were no patterns included (hope that has changed since I moved on). At least they also promoted small American brands at a time where it was still hard to get actual brand into the states.
"Brown people are not interchangeable." My son whose father is Filipino (I'm white) has been called Chinese SO many times. Nothing wrong with being Chinese, but not all Asians are Chinese!
Preach it. My husband is Indonesian-Chinese. Our teens all look "ethnically ambiguous". The questions they get... To quote my grandmother, "oy vey".
@@giovanninasuluh W Euro colonialists called SE Asian Chinese (+Indians +
Japanese?) the Jews of SE Asia.
In 1960s ? Taiwan Province had an
Al Jolson !! imitator (black face make up
white Euro American or W Euro actor,
singer, etc.) That singer, who sang false
US African American dialect. The Taiwan Chinese, singer also used E Euro Ashkenaz Jewish klezmer dance music during breaks. (Did he use Yiddish to sing?--- re all Oy very !!!)
breaks (did he also sing in Yiddish,
My school yearbook this year (along with many other errors such as cutting people's last names in half, accidentally copying and pasting a band and listing them as a choir and thus not listing those actual choir members, and fully declaring one of our school produtions as another one) mixed up almost all of our Asian students this year. All throughout the yearbook, they've been miscredited and switched around with one another. Really stupidly enforcing that idiotic idea that "all Asians look the same"
I agree that all ethnicities aren't interchangeable, and applaud more representation of those who have been historically underrepresented, but this fixation on the finer points of ethnicity worries me. What matters most is the person themselves, not their genetic underpinnings, etc. Sure, it's a wonderful part of who they are, but it's not the whole person, so to speak. For example, in looking for a job, I'd rather not be considered for my gender or race. My resume should speak for itself. I can stand on my own two feet, and that's how it should be.
you’re definitely not wrong about the editorial content mostly being sponsored content. part of why a lot of us vogue covers come under fire for a lack of creativity is because they have to meet mandates by the brands paying for the content (so like prada for example casts the models, does the styling in all their products etc and vogue just acts like that’s their team’s work). the advertising and sponsorship aspect is such a big part that here in south africa virtually 98% of women’s magazines have had to shut down since the pandemic because there aren’t any brands willing to pay for advertising and advertorials anymore.
this was a great dive, the aquarium thing sounds amazing.
When I was a teenager/young adult, a magazine came out here in France that did take the "women's" content + literary content approach. Its fashion content also focused a lot more on the history of trends than on "here's what to wear this month! [Product placement]" so it was a blessing for my weird historybounding, likes clothes but hates following trends teenage self lol. On top of the fashion, music and literary articles they always had a short story at the end. I don't actually know if it's still published but it had a lot to do with reconciling me with the idea of fashion as something more than just arbitrary rules to get harrassed for not following lol.
When I was 10 or 11, I found mom's old Cosmos. As far as I remeber it had pretty ok information about sex life, it definitely had few short stories per issue, and some social commentery too. I vividly remeber one about loving your body, not adoring how it looks no matter what, but realysing it's needs and keeping it as healthy as it can be. And it should have been printed between 2000 and 2008 in Russia.
A friend gave me a copy of a January 1912 McCall's magazine, and it is FASCINATING. So much of it is exactly like the magazines of today; there's even an article on home redecorating that wouldn't be out of place on Pinterest.
Hmmm, I think the most interesting thing I've seen in a vintage magazine was using cold cream as a way to remove sci-fi make up. It seems silly but their products were much harsher than what is used now but cold cream still works and I've used it a ton during gigs!
Wait. *Sci-fi* makeup?!?!
@@SnappyDragon it was a 50s or 60s magazine!
That’s how I was taught to remove make-up by my mom! 😂 she still uses it.
@@findingbeautyinthepain8965 I like using it for airbrush removal. It's perfect and moisturizing!
Oh for sure! When I did theatre that's how I took my makeup off, and now I still use cold cream to take off cosplay makeup (for the most part. Stuff like glued-on Bajoran nose ridges take a little more elbow grease, but a cold cream handles most of the powders and paints and stuff all right).
As an older lady, when I was a teen in the late 90s Seventeen magazine (when I had a subscription) did include short stories. As did Sassy magazine.
So it hasn't been that long.
Strange how differently people describe themselves in regards to age! I was 18 in 1995 and I don't yet think of myself as older or younger, just as 44. Although what I usually say is "I'm 44 but can't wait to turn 50" which is true. But I never had children (because I never wanted them) so I do think that makes a bit of difference in how I perceive myself.
As an elder GenXer, I remember those days. I loved the stories in magazines back in the day.
When writing an article about anxiety for my highschool newspaper, I found an article for vogue about children and teens experiencing it, and the pros and cons of safe spaces as opposed exposure to uncomfortable situations, which I found interesting
This reminds me of the newspaper I found from Boston Massachusetts 1893.
The advertising was so similar to modern newspaper ads, but they were trying to sell horses rather than cars. One ad gushed about the lace curtain sale that was being extended by popular demand.
The HUGE difference was in the want ads. So many read something like: position available. Seeking housekeeper, new arrivals okay, no German, Italian or Irish. 😳
Okay, so we want the better content-to-advertising ratio back, but the 1890s can keep the extra racism. We (clearly) still have far too much of that around.
@@SnappyDragon Agreed! I don't waste money on magazines anymore because they are mostly ads.
That racism though blew my mind, like shit that's not even the least bit subtle.
Love how you’re shifting to more historical deep dive videos in addition to all the pretty dress sewing! Also you’re so gorgeous!! Keep up the good work!
Loved the idea of comparing current to historical magazines! Fascinating, thanks.
If a random stranger on the street had told me the Cosmo had an article about abelism in a positive light, I would have thought they were lying. I am glad to see Cosmo has bettered its ways a bit.
This was a fascinating video! I remember as a kid spending HOURS reading some old ladies magazines from the 30s. I don’t remember which magazine it was but she had bags of them in her closet. I used to read Cosmo occasionally when I was in my 20s, but now I read science and history magazines. I’m really looking forward to downloading some of these 19th century magazines and ensconcing myself in history again. Thanks for all you do!
It was the early 80's. My dad was flipping through my mom's copy of Cosmopolitan. He asked me, "This is your MOTHER'S magazine?" (It was full of pictures of half naked women.)🤣
I have so many allergies that any magazines that have perfume in the pages are just not an option for me to look at. Learning what is in said magazines makes me rather glad that my allergies have made it impossible for me to read so many advertisements.
Wow, never heard a north american mention Māori folks! There's deffo not enough Pasifika/Māori representation in modelling here in NZ, though we're trying to do better these days with other media. I have a friend who is half-white/Palangi/Pākehā and half-Samoan, and while he's one of those people everyone loves because he is so friendly and kind, partnered with such a vivacious personality & unique great sense of style (and who everyone thus thinks should be a model), when we travelled we found people in America often thought he was middle eastern or from some kind of Hispanic/Latino ancestry, while people here in NZ who don't know him often think he's Pakistani or Middle Eastern too (or "broadly PI", i.e. has mixed Pasifika ancestry). He said he likes looking "racially ambiguous" mostly, but there is a bit of the outsider feeling too, as he doesn't "look Samoan enough" to his Samoan friends, but he's also "too brown" for white folks (not my words, his words). I can't imagine experiencing the same thing as him, as I'm very much white (well... kind of white-passing tbh but that's super complicated) but the whole idea of not fitting in with any heritage and people thinking they know where your ancestors etc came from is relatable for sure (if only to a lesser degree). Tbh my mum though everyone in the 17th and 18th centuries had Graves' disease (bulgy eyes) until I reminded her about the hapsbergs, so the weirdest things are "in vogue " at different times, but I just think we need to absolutely normalise all people in all histories, and do our best to celebrate everyone as they are now--not just white folks and whatever weird racial assignations they say ppl are according to "fashion" or whatever
Considering how influential social media is on modern fashion trends and the rise of old timey aesthetics like cottagecore, it isn't surprising that fashion magazines have stumbled across the historical costuming community. Not sure if the ruff will be making a comeback any time soon though.
Yeah I can 100% do without ruffs reappearing . . .
Given that ruffs were _meant_ to be impractical, they’re unlikely to make a reappearance in general fashion, given that even celebrities like to wear clothes that are at least slightly practical much of the time nowadays.
*silently removes ruff and shoves it under skirt* Yes. Impractical.
Cartwheel farthingales are basically giant ruffs, right? 😂
Threads magazine has had a few cosplay creators in the magazine. No historical reenactment yet.
this was awesome!! I'd love to see more stuff like this (comparing media from the past to similar media from today)
Thank you! It was super fun.
I assume that all fashion magazines are 100% ad content, especially when I see them only pushing $100+ beauty creams and serums when there are plenty of very good to much better ones that exist in the $7 - $17 range AND Dr. Drey and Sandra Bankson have already raked the magazine choices over the coals. If the dermatologist says it’s crap but the article says it is the only cream that works… I smell ad dollars hiding behind an article front.
Even reading Martha Stewart Living, it so much selling and high end at that. “Oh, those are cute table napkins. Wow, $75. . . Each.”
Cosmo, and to a lesser extent Harper's Bazaar, started out as a more general knowledge/story publishing magazines. Cosmo was actually geared towards men until about the 50's/60's.
Yup! It would have been cool to do a direct Cosmo-to-Cosmo comparison but the target audience was just too different.
"The Cosmopolitan" went through a host of major changes between 1886 and 1965, when Helen Gurley Brown (author of "Sex and the Single Girl") took over as editor.
I once read an article on winter skin care tips in an issue of American Girl magazine from the library, it has stuck in my brain since I read it in my tweens/early teens and I am 22 now. I think that it had some good advice to help prevent dry skin in the winter months, like being careful not to shower in too hot water, etc.
I remember reading teen vogue in middle school. I thought it was cool to learn about things teens and young adults could do in the fashion world, since at the time all I wanted was to be a designer. I used to take the outfits and re-design them into my sketch book all the time, often changing the colors, cuts, length, etc to fit my own tastes. I don't remember the last time I picked up a physical fashion mag though. Too many ads and diets, not enough content.
I can totally picture young future-19th-century-dressmakers doing the same!
D’you know, in the 80s, there were still shorter (novella length) stories in girlie magazines at times - maybe not Cosmo, but I remember a magazine for teenage girls in Germany which published stories spread out over several weeks’ editions.
This was super fascinating tbh. I like that you did side-by-sides like this to see how and what has changed in these publications.
WOW, really surprised about Cosmo. Also, I find it funny that us weirdos who dress strange have garnered enough attention that it has come back around to my mother, who will call me up and tell me how "vintage" is such a huge thing now. (Wow, could it be that I'm finally going to be socially acceptable, fashion wise?) Vogue, prior to the Panda Demonic times, had snippets of books, and interesting little stories in it. [sigh, I miss my pre-plague Vogue.]
Ooh, I should go look at pre-plague Vogue!
“Women’s” magazines in Norway still have stories in them, but I don’t think they ever end up printed elsewhere.
I think the one "childrens'" magazine I got as a kid was either Norwegian or Finnish, and it definitely did have stories! I wish it hadn't gone out of fashion.
Yeah, I have seen stories in Finnish magazines. Often they might be teaser chapters from new books or similar. And of course, there are magazines consisting entirely of (often steamy) stories that young women read.
Really appreciated the rejection of gender essentialism 💚
Thank you! I try to make sure that even if I'm referencing unnecessarily gendered things, people know it's *reference* rather than agreement.
Thanks V, very interesting! Like all your historical analysis.
It was fascinating to see the comparison!!
What a fun comparison!
this was so fascinating!!!! i love seeing how historical people are all just as human as we are today. it's one of the best parts of learning about history, i think.
thank you for bringing us along on your exploration ^_^
Ooooh, I've always thought about this! It's so cool
I didn't know this. Interesting. Reminds me of my time in a special collections library where I curated a fashion collection from the Victorian era. Thanks.
Your videos are so interesting! I love the way you contrast and connect the dots between the past and recent social trends. It all seeps into our collective moral compass. I signed up for Skill Share.
What a neat side by side!
I love your videos! Please keep it up.
Secret bow pockets???!
I need to know more! Is the pocket _in_ the bow or just conveniently hidden behind it?
It's saying to make a bow out of wide ribbon and leave the tails long, then turn up the ends to make pockets. Maybe I'll do a little IG Reel tutorial!
@@SnappyDragon I think I'm Visualizing it?
Seeing the fashion plates reminded me that when I was in college, years and years ago, I took an optional class in costume history. One of the projects we did was to take our measurements and draw our own fashion figure based on those measurements with a one-and-a-half-inch head, which is an industry standard. I am a short stout girl even when I was less than 100 pounds, but the instructor didn't accept the 'portly' figure I came up with and told me to redo my numbers. However, I was majoring in math, so I knew my numbers were good. What I did next was to recalculate my measurements with a head that was one inch high. Using a photocopier, I verified that the two figures were pretty much the same and handed in the smaller one, which the instructor accepted. (Yes, I did the work. I didn't just shrink the first figure, lol.) One of the points of this project was to see how thin a figure was with a one-and-a-half-inch head, so I could see her point.
Btw, I remember "women's magazines" in the 1970's and 80's publishing short fiction and excerpts of novels. (I think Redbook may have been a leader in this sort of thing.)
“Brown people are not interchangeable.” Luckily, I was between bites.
I was between sips! When I was a kid my dad would do a running cometary through movies. It drove me crazy. But among the annoying “that’s a 6 shooter he’s out of shot” was the “that actor is... not whatever they were pretending to be”. My son and father still go on about the Lone Ranger movie and the casting
"Ways to use chip dust" 😂 I mean, I just shake the bag into my mouth, but go off, Cosmo
This was fantastic. Thank you!
Your videos are great V. Thanks!
Your topics are so interesting.
I used to work in magazine publishing.... advertorials are paid for by the company whose products are feature. and if there wasn't as much advertising in the magazine it would either be a lot smaller (fewer pages) or it would cost a lot more to buy. (I do not buy magazines!)
That's pretty much what I figured. I don't think I'd ever actually *bought* a fashion magazine in my life before this! Random ones keep getting mailed to my salon for free.
That was brilliant!! Absolutely loved this I haven’t bought magazines since the 90’s. I used to buy the cheap ones at the checkout if I was feeling rich. There was a story and usually patterns for a few things. I think I will look up some historical magazines and have a look through. Might be fun or will add half a dozen ideas to my growing list of things I would like to do!!!
Also thanks for the comment that brown people are not interchangeable!! The world is a messed up place. This are changing slowly but there’s still a push to be white passing. Mostly to lessen the fear of police and discrimination.
I'm so excited for this one!
I remember a couple of years back, Seventeen was doing a LOT of heavy lifting in delivering real information on social issues to young people.
Thanks for a great comparison. It's true. Times may have changed, but people are people. Take care.
You're so welcome! I believe it was Sir Terry that said something like "People are not fundamentally good, or bad, they're just fundamentally *people.* "
My brother Eric Daman was the Stylist for The Gossip Girl reboot that was on the cover of the Cosmo your showing 😊
I absolutely love your videos. They are very informative. You should have your own show on the Smithsonian channel or one of the National Geographic channels or maybe on one of the Discovery channels. I for one would be tuning in. Thanks for all your hard work. 💖💖💖💖💖
I was lucky enough to find about a hundred women's magazines at an estate sale a few years ago and I love reading them. It's really a peak into the ideals of the times. They're from the 40's and 50's mostly. I found the articles to be much longer- probably due to less entertainment options, like you said. Can you link your source for the vintage magazines? I'd love to check it out!
I think people thought they could sell things if they got their products out there in front of people's eyes, and that's what they started to advertise in magazines. Then it just took people a while to realize that a text box hidden at the back of the magazine was not a very effective strategy of getting in front of people's eyes. So they adapted. Fast-forward a century or so and now we've got a 40% to 60% advert-to-content ratio as a result. Hooray. 😵
Interesting that “men’s “ magazines like Esquire still publish fiction.
this video was posted a long time ago, but I wanted to add my own tidbits of knowledge to this. I'm doing my master's research project on fashion advertisement in daily newspapers between 1890 and 1920 (in Montreal), and I'm not quite done yet, but it is obvious already how advertisement size increased significantly during the period. By around 1910, you first start to see full page advertisements, whereas it is basically unheard of before. Serialized stories (which, yes, were part of daily newspapers) also seem to disappear over the period, although they appear to be replaced by strip comics instead (in the saturday prints at least). I think the progression might be slower in weekly or monthly print press, but I'm wondering about it. Might have more to say when I'm further along with my research.
*sees title* Oooooo, dis is gonna be good.
Oof the bit about modeling. I briefly was interested in it as a kid and my mother INSISTED my official information could not say I was Egyptian. She wanted to put down Mediterranean 🤮. It's not technically "wrong" but Mediterranean is usually only understood to mean spicy Europe.
In other news I really love the 19th century magazines because of useful they are for understanding the culture of the time (and free sewing patterns). I kind of wish we still had so much "diy" content in ours, and I've bounced around the idea of a North African magazine with friends that's DIY content with patterns for cultural fashions that was inspired by this + European folk dress pattern books and mags.
That's so frustrating! 😭
@@idrisa7909 I would love to see that magazine!! admittedly, i wouldn't really be able to financially support it cuz i'm poor, but the concept sounds great!!
@@elfinvale and I can't start it bc I'm poor, lol! Currently I have a blog I'm working on for Egyptian fashion which hopefully will at least be something.
Wow so good well said so impressed subscribed!!!!!!
I gave up on magazines as a teenager (~15 years ago) as I preferred the internet. I discovered Guinea Pig Magazine a couple of years ago, and it's a delight to flick through. The models are of course gorgeous 😂
On one hand I really appreciated and enjoyed this video. But one the other, it provided an excuse to continue procrastinating! I shouldn't even be leaving this comment cause the day is almost over and I need to get things done. So Im just gonna say thanks and get going. That is the thing I shall do now... now I will get to work... no more procrastinating... gonna go to work now, promise.
... yep
... work
... maybe I need to read a magazine article on how to stop procrastinating?
I take no responsibility for having provided procrastination-fuel 🤣
A year later and I'm procrastinating by reading your comment...
We have some silver-fish nibbled Godey's up in the attic, and yes, everything reads better when it's got context.
I prefer drawings for menswear, I emphasize menswear, such as in the Appearal Arts illustrations, simply because it shows me the exact style line and proportions that are suggested for such wonderful woolen lovelies. But that's classic menswear, which in general relies on more subtlety for the individual, unlike womenswear
I hope I can make a paper relating to magazines like these. ✨
This was really interesting, thanks!
That was the perfect Cosmo issue simply because of the article you've shown the last second 😅
This was super interesting! Something that shocked me recently was finding out how based Teen Vogue is.
It’s amazing! Huge fan of Teen Vogue!
You were so close when you pointed out that the 1900s "models" were drawn. It wasnt about some beauty standard or anti diversity. All the figures were the same because one or two artists had to churn out every single one of those pictures fast and cheap. The figure they were drawn on was so much less important then the clothes that it wasnt a consideration to differentiate them. The history of illustration is very interesting.
Honestly, if women’s magazines as they existed in the late 1800s early 1900s were still a thing I would probably buy them
But today's medical articles can be very bad. There was one that stated that the effect of homeopathy is undeniable (in the sense that undeniably it has an effect) but how it works is unclear.
This made me so furious because here in Germany our homeopathy law is so messed up that doctors are suied for saying that homeopathy does not work over the placebo effect (which is the current scientific consensus). Currently there is a huge discussion about this.
And jet this magazine states the effect is undisputed.
I actually wrote the editor and she actually defended the article stating this was OK. This article was spreading straight up lies
I wish we still had dressmakers 😔
Me tooooooo 😍
We do still have them, you can find them if you search hard for them. But they mostly do it as a hobby next to their job because there is so little demand for it that it is not enough to feed their families.
@@laartje24
It also depends on where you live; you’re much more likely to find a dressmaker near you if you live in or near a major city than if you have to make it a day trip (it may be only 75 minutes away by car, or two hours away by bus, but buses don’t go more than once or twice a day in each direction) if you want to visit the nearest small one.
I loved this video!
I like to buy a copy of Vogue from time to time. I even like the perfume ads. (I use the ones I like as sachets.) There are lots of advertisements but I understand it. Modern magazines are expensive to make, especially with all the full color photography. It's like publishing a premium book every month. It not only takes $$$ but also a lot of time and effort. This makes me wonder though, how are they able to document what the current fashion trends are "now" when the fashion layouts were designed and the photos shot 9-12 months previously? There's gotta be some kind of time-travel, conspiracy theory thing involved. 😉
I love old magazines, too, especially the fashion plates, but they have issues. They're just too stylized. Like take a look at the tiny feet. If we took them seriously we'd have to come to the conclusion that foot binding was wildly popular in the first half of the 19th century. Also, the construction in the Regency plates is way off. What we see in the plates doesn't match the construction techniques that we know were used at the time. We can get ideas about necklines, hems and trims but not so much how clothing was made.
Random thought reguarding the large pockets hidden amoungst big dresses, would it be possible to create a pocket that could fit en entire gun or other modern weapons???? Asking this for curiosity reasons. or writing purposes.
14:00 I'm not sure if we actually pay for the magazine or the advertising companies pay for them (the actual editors, offices, etc...), and then we pay for the paper and printing.
0:30 ;n; not even a minute in and you’ve already made me feel so seen, I came to hang not to feel aaaahhhhh
I have made my own makeup. I wish more people would try it.
It looks to me that those Victorian magazines are more like burda and sewing or knitting magazines than the current fashion magazines.
Your summing-up had me grinning; it reminded me of all the reasons I dislike “women’s magazines ! Most of their contents are on my list of things I don’t want to talk about! I know being a high-functioning autistic accounts for a great deal of my tendency to categorise anything I don’t talk about as “gossip “ - but so much of it is just that!
Très intéressant 👍
I think if there were fewer ads in those magazines they'd be pretty much unaffordable for the buyer and therefore unprofitable for the publishers - at least that's what I've read. But I agree with you, magazines in general (and I don't buy them much, only the occasional Royal Special issue) have lots of, if not too many, advertisements in most of them. But it must pay for the companies who place those ads. And they very nearly do the same thing ads on tv do - no matter how low you have the volume, as soon as the ads come on you fall off your chair. In the magazines it's all the colour in the advertising spreads, even if the rest of the mags are colour as well, the ads turn it up a notch.
Sad you didn't mention how Louis Vuitton with literally trying to sell purses with a naked woman in bed. That's got to be a different and undesirable difference.
Also, are those spoon earrings?
Why is no one else on here ranting that customized design and fit aren't as accessible anymore?
So, I think I speak for all of us, when I ask... How DO you put a hidden pocket in a bow??
I paused the video right at that part to see. You leave the bow end 3 inches longer than it needs to be, then fold it over underneath and sew it in place. The bow is held onto you with a pin, and you then have a tiny pocket for train tickets or whatever other little bitty things you have.
Your hair is the envy of my floppy locks..❣️❣️❣️
Re: brown people not being interchangeable...as a Kiwi, it's not unusual to see our Māori actors who get overseas film roles play a whole host of different POC. 🤦🏼♀️
Yeah, and often with their usual Kiwi accents too, which can be pretty weird in context! 🤪 But despite the issues, it is at least great to see tangata whenua actors getting international respect for their skills, despite all the barriers still facing indigenous peoples & those from smaller nations...?
Yes, I tried a modern magazine and struggled to find the content!
Off topic, but I just want to mention, that I'm also a V and my curls look exactly like yours but blonde! xD
That's how everything went down....with "modern" fashion.
Interesting!
I mean. TEEN VOGUE is often more politically relevant than traditional newspapers.
My mother had a bunch of fashion magazines from early 20th century/late 19th and I read them with delight. The descriptions of the clothes, the cuts, the fabrics ! So stimmy !!
Yay V! I really enjoyed your nerd out about racism and representation in the modeling industry.
I am definitely not watching you at work....
Muse gets all the credit for that insight, that was not me
Thank you for saying that, as a slender person.
In modern era, at times, feminist women
in different countries published smaller
social.political magazines, without fashion focus.
It's worse than that. Advertisers exert a lot of control over the actual content of the magazine.
I can use a seamstress. badly.