GM22 Classic EMD locomotive engine room and Cab!
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- Australian 1950s locomotive GM22 still running in 2021, with the V16 567 2 stroke roots blown engine, and old school cab design and beaut Nathan P3 horn.
In a loaded Grain with 6 locomotives all up running from southern nsw to Melbourne Australia.
JANUARY 2021 - บันเทิง
I love that EMD prime mover sound of it notching up.
Glad you enjoyed it.
What an awesome machine. I love that it's still going at nearly 70 years old. They really built them to last back then.
Yes locomotives are really built to last 60-70 years
They still do. I had a good look around an NR class in Adelaide. That thing is one solid piece of equipment. 25 mm thick steel and more all over the locomotive. Brilliant Modern electronic controls in the Engineering too.
The best sound out there, a good old fashioned GM clagging along under a full load in 8th notch, loved em as a freight guard out of Sydney and still love em today....
They'll outlast any modern loco by miles...
I believe Boss Kettering resisted all attempts for GM to build 4 stroke diesels as he said they had one stroke to do the work and three strokes to wear them out. Make every down stroke, a power stroke.
Great video. More EMD action welcome.
@@flyingscrapyard and now EMD is making 4 stroke engines so that tells you everything you need to know about that
Because the 2 strokes no longer meet emissions standards
@@flyingscrapyard👍🇦🇺
@@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER 👍
Loved the sound of these beasts pulling up or idling through Hawkesbury River station, while I was in high school, waiting for the 7.36 to hornsby 🤘
It's great to still see these beauties in action
It's great to see them in traction, lol
4 valve heads. All 4 are exhaust valves. The intake ports are uncovered when the piston travels past them, allowing air in from the air boxes. This fresh air scavanges the cylinders up and out the 4 open exhaust valves, which then close, filling the cylinder with a clean charge of air, as the piston travels back up past the ports in the liner, cutting off the intake portion of the cycle.
Interesting stuff. In the late 90's, I was a little kid and the loco driver of a V/Line N class let me have a ride in the cab and push the throttle forward on two occasions and toot the horn. I loved it.. World was a different place back then. I can't imagine anything like that would happen these days allowing a young kid into the cab of a loco.
Sadly not
Unfortunately any person that wants a ride in the cab is deemed a potential terrorist nowadays. Just imagine if those 2 planes never hit the twin towers...
I didn,t get to ride but got a look inside the cab of an old GM ,engine was idling,Was the one that had the glass portals.Was the old Hummingbird that ran from Chicago.I was a child in the early 60,s. Glad my Dad got the crew to let me look.
Absolutely amazing locomotives the GMs considering they are almost 70 years old these grand old veteran locomotives and some are still going strong that is truly amazing.
A vintage locomotive still in good condition today and still running without any problems!
These 567's that I worked on (GP's) really only had 2 notches and that was in idle and notch 8. The Missouri Pacific would stick about 4 to 6 of these together with a huge train of trash and let you drag from one siding to the next getting out of the hot trains way until you reached your destination. Probably never got over 40 mph either.
Greetings from the USA. The only place we get to see these old beauties is mostly in museums. I guess that Aussie train whistle laws at crossings are a bit different. Over here it’s 2 long , 1 short, 1 long blow at graded crossings. But we have a lot of stupid people with drivers license over here as well and common sense is in short supply. Much love to you guys and thanks for the videos.
Yeh typically you just blow your horn long about 1000ft before the crossing then a short one just before you cross. We love our horns but they would get really annoying if they did it like how you guys blow them in the usa. There aren't too many train horn rules down here in kangaroo land
At Pacific National the rule is 4 seconds & 1 second on approach to crossings but the legal requirement (in NSW) is just to “sound the whistle”. I vary it depending on vision etc.
That opening shot is gorgeous! And the video just gets better from there.
Hi Adam, many thanks for the engine stats and the cab ride. Its great to see those old loco's still earning their keep. Stay safe. Cheers Lee.
Awesome video!
The greatest engine configuration and the best type of diesel engine...2 stroke V16! Nothing beats the sound of these gems! Classic EMD so happy they're still circulating. Testimony to these old school rebuildable loco's.
I believe these are the same as the FA units run by Chicago & Northwestern in the U.S. during the 60's, as we lived next to the tracks and would hear the commuter trains going by every hour. Beautiful locos, and thank you for the video reminder of those memories. They had the horns on the roof instead of the nose.
Great video, love the sounds, cool cab footage. Thanks for showing.
For those who do not know, these engines are made very differently than an automotive engine. They don't have a machined block. Instead, what you see is really a frame. There are individual cylinder and piston assemblies that mount into the frame. They are called "Power Packs" and the V16 configuration, of course, has 16 Power Packs. That is one reason servicing is made easier. If one cylinder has a problem, all you have to do is replace that one Power Pack. (The video refers to this as "fabricated Shell with removable internals.) At a railroad trade show I attended at McCormick place in Chicago in the 1960's, they had an engine frame on display with all the inspection covers removed, but nothing inside. The had an O scale model railroad track with train running in and out of the frame through some of the inspection holes.
GM22 engine sound like heaven.
Really enjoyed this. Not often enough that the cab view is presented in a lot of videos. Well done :-)
Cheers for the technical details, very interesting indeed. Especially the way the traction motors are moved between series and parallel, lots to think about after this one. Excellent video as always thanks Adam!
Glad you enjoyed it. Always giving me ideas for future vids.
Great insight - thanks for sharing being on a wonderful old workhorse. I am so impressed with a 80kmh train that you keep it so close to that 80 mark all the time. That must take great judgement.
Well done. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks mate! Yeah it's a skill to keep it up at 80 without crashing and bashing it. Especially on those old girls! It's half the fun!
I know its not a race car etc hahah but is there much difference when shes uncoupled as in 0-130 etc? Or whatever they do? I spose youd feel a whole lot more torque, do diesels ever wheelslip like the ol steamers too?
Thanks mate brilliant I always wondered what went on cheers
That's an awesome office window view.
love the EMD fantastic sound, excellent video ,mate.
Fine old prehistoric GM power.
Must be a very chilled drive. Great vid.
Somehow electric does dosent have the same attraction...nothing beats the noise these things make. Wish I had followed in dads footsteps and joined the railways when I was younger...would never get in now :(
Thanks for a great insight and lots of facts. Next best thing for a would be , if i could be...Grew up loving EMD, at 50 + years nothings changed.
Thanks for the videos. I drove with trucks years ago.
Awesome video. Love the 567 prime mover 🤠. And the horn sounds close to the Old cast P3 that southern pacific favored
Love the sound of the engine
Yes that's a mighty V16 2 stroke Diesel, 10,300 cubic inches of it!
Seriously! This takes me back to my childhood! Awesome 👌
Its great to see this old reliable iron still working and making money!
Loving the cinematography mate, have a good day !
Cheers!
Glad I’ve seen GM22 at Ararat and Maroona.
ive always loved these engines even the new ones look and sound awesome, ive watched two videos of yours today and youve just earned another sub, cheers mate great vid take it easy,
The Australian's F unit can't be beat in its category, only surpassed by the F unit itself.
Love the sounds, you guys have a little different way of sounding your horn in Australia it seems. One blast followed by another quick blast right before going thru the crossing. In America its two long blasts followed by a short blast and then another long blast as the train goes thru the crossing.
Absolutely awesome camera work once again! Great work!
Cheers!! 🍻
Love the facts you've added in. Good stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it, was originally meant to just be an engine room vid but I decided to add it all in the vid.
Wow, that horn sounds just like the old high hood Southern RR SD40s here in the states. I’d recognize that specific horn tuning anywhere.
Awesome video. Thanks 👍
Wow that sounds amazing great video
Ayy Gonna work on dem trains absoukate love rail and its been lifelong dream 16 years old but rail here I come
Train enginer
Thanks bro mind me asking how did you qualify for a train engineer
If memory serves me correctly most of these locomotive carbodies were manufactured by Clyde Engineering under license from EMD. They would then install EMD prime movers into the locomotives.
Correct. 😊
Good video. It reminds me why I want to keep my job on modern equipment with ride handling suspension and bogie components, insulated and isolated cabs and crew amenities like clean and working toilets.
I've been in them all, old and modern. I can say driving this stuff makes you a much better driver, but I do miss the good equipment.
@@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER yeah mate me too. Started on Alcos and GMs and wouldn’t trade that learning experience for quids. I get nostalgic when I see them and think “yeah” but then I go back to my comfy SD70ace and think “nah”. One day I’ll probably end up on them again doing heritage work.
It takes skill to drive the fossils, the new stuff you just open the throttle and almost let the computer do the rest. But you also don't go home with a stuffed back on the new stuff.
Another good one mate . Excellent.
Great video!
Wow that is so awesome!
Awesome video Adam. Thanks for the extra few toots at donnybrook
Man, I wish we could get away with those short horn blasts here in the US.
Yes the mandatory 14L in the usa sounds great but so many level crossings!
Really enjoying your videos including this one. They are interesting, show the job you do and the genuine respect for the machinery so well, without feeling like a video that is all dripping in foam and gunzel juice.
Haha glad you enjoy them, there's more involved to making these than just the run of the mill foamed vid, some take days/weeks to edit and film to get it right. Some are hit and miss, but I learn alot from the TH-cam analytics.
Bloody legend thanks for sharing bro
Fantastic vid...thanks.
Fantastic!👍
Still sprints along the rails pretty well for an old girl.
Even Aussie locomotives have the cab controls on the wrong side.
What a beauty!
How has this got one dislike?? Mint video once again mad dawg.
Fuck knows.. Probably a moron I'll live 😂
@@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER probably some twelvie who's upset cos he can't get cab rides 😂😂
Some punk in Dads basement with little to do but be a peckerhead.
Prolly some useless Greenie.
Brilliant vid man, thanks for sharing 👍👍👍🇦🇺
Great video! Well done mate!
Thanks legend! It's gone wild so I know this is what people want to see!
@@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER keep all the videos coming! Ace job.
Yes, outstanding video ! I’d love to see the same treatment applied to a C class ....... leave the cab door opened though, just so we can hear how many car alarms it sets off.
Next time we get a C down here and I'm in it I will try. :)
Wicked mate i know they are old and not as powerfull as later locos but to me thats what an Engine should sound and look like thanks mate great vid cheers.
Cheers! :)
The 567 sound we had for years but it's only the 645 E3 and 710 engines we have now , just two types of loco now. We had those Hasler speedometers with the wind up clock but not now.
Indonesia?
@@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER Ireland.
How sweet it is.
Great video pity the windscreen was so dirty, it would give us a better view. Love to see some captions about the various guages and controls in the cab. Keep it up.🇦🇺
another excellent video. Extremely reliable is an understatement: Millions and millions of miles. Many of the US Class 1's are scrapping their GE Junkamotives and rebuilding and retrofitting all the stored EMD motive power as they still have millions of miles left in them. BTW leave the descriptions up a little longer. Thanks for all the great EMD videos. Very well maintained ROW and rail bed. These long wheelbase locomotives usually pitch a lot but these 22's seem to ride better than the E8's and 9's. Perhaps a little Windex on the windscreen before the next video would be nice. (-: So the 27's have RH controls and the 22's have LH??
What a gritty grungy beautiful locomotive. Since I was a boy I always wanted to sit in the cab of this class loco. Thanks to you I feel I have done it, at 60 years of age.Is the red button on the left what is known as dead mans switch?. I am guessing. Thank you.
Yes or vigilance button.
You can see that cleaning the windscreen (a major safety item IMHO) isn't seen as one of his duties.
We can see out no probs at all. Also not easy Windows to wash.
wonderful. thank you
Good move
EVERYONE has to love this train surely?. It's what you think if when you think of American railroads. Well nice train, has a mean look from the front I reckon
Yes agree! Can't beat the CLs!
have they changed the throttle control stand, seem to remember they were similar to a B class, plus the addition of the a selector for Dynamic brake
Yes I believe it's been modified.
Well, I learn something new every day. I had no idea that in Australia, that the engineer sits on the left, as opposed to the right side like here in the states. I guess that shouldn’t be surprising as it’s a similar but opposite situation with our cars. One question I have: do you guys have to follow a certain procedure to honk the horn when approaching a level crossing? In the US, engineers have to sound the horn in a long, long, short, long pattern when approaching the grade crossing, with the final long blast being sounded as they enter the crossing.
Excellent Vid and loved the camera angles.
A couple of Questions:
How long does it take from the time you open the door on the train, do what you have to do to get it started, let it warm up before the wheels move?
Are the modern trains of the last 10 years or so turn key start or do they take a similar start up to this engine?
Do you need to let them cool down after stopping for the day?
Thank you!
Just to get moving from the time we open the cabs up, no less than about 10 mins while air pumps up and we do tests ont the equipment, but usually we are allocated more time, there's no key to start these just an electrical knife switch, circuit breakers them a start station in the engine room with a lever or buttons depending on the loco.
Turbocharged locos usually like to sit idle for around 10 mins after heavy work, but they all have turbo lube oil pumps to pump cool oil through the turbo for 10 mins after engine shut down so oil doesn't cook in the bearings.
Nice job, informative. Been better if the windshield was clean in and out !?!
Agree
What is the large blue valve for?
Delicious.
Lucky guy in the black t-shirt. 120.000hrs between rebuilds......roughly how does that translate into Kilometers?
I like it.
I've always wondered why the throttles operate backwards in Australian EMDs.
Left hand side is why.
the lever that is above the trottle does that control the normal & dyomatic switch?
Yes it does, although this locomotive itself doesn't have dynamic brake, units behind that do will operate with the lead throttle/rheostat.
@@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER I C that's like another video I saw it's called b80 cab view to Geelong & also s313 to geelong
Good value there Adam, wonder how many more years they will "squeeze" out of GM22 and GM10? The "Do gooders" and "Tree Huggers" are agitating that they are a noise and emission problem and want them off the road. Last year there was mention on Prime TV local news out here about it. No aircon in GM22 either, must be like an oven in peak of summer eh? That's how it was in the old days, simple, basic and it all looked after itself. Happy with the GoPro Hero9? Great video, thank you.
GM22 does have an aircon now but with the electrical cabinet heat its not amazing!
Because all World's Best Practice railways still have 60 or 70 year old locos in their fleets, right?
Not necessarily, but new locos are great expensive, old locos are cheap to maintain
I have little stickers somewhere to put on cars and pickup trucks with a nice greenish triangular logo saying "Hydrocarbon Powered Eco-Vehicle". Maybe that would be enough to fool the environmentally excessive.
they aint ready see how much noise could a jammed highway produce
The knock off valves are failing in the air compressor hence the sound of air coming from the inner cooler safety valve.
I happen to know a couple of decent EMD locomotive mechanic/electricians if you need them. 👨🔧 Of course they are in the States.
Thank you for the highlight and greetings from the high plains of Texas.
Why does GM22 have a P3? Haven't seen those used on Australian equipment before.
I believe great Northern may have fitted them up, some locos here have P3s I think they are far nice than the new cast P5s
IN the us your operating station would be on the right side of the locomotive
Yes some of our locos do have the controls on the other side but most are on the LHS.
I love the sound of those classic air horns! You don't hear them much these days, they're all so generic now, no flourishes by the engineer anymore.
Are those K5LA horns or Nathan Air Chimes? I can't ever remember which is which. 📯
P3. Nathan Airchime P3.
From a driving point of view, how do these old locos compare to modern ones?
They require alot more skill and patience.
What's the cost in that weather going through WOW keep that speed up on making it your train line Caution by any emergency of chance you know
Not sure what you mean?
I think these (The GM22) were superceded by the CL Class.....is that correct?
Sort of, the CLs were definitely in a higher class, but the railways kept the GMs for lighter duty trains.
But in short, yes.
@@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER Thank you.
The reason I asked is that my wife and I travelled on the Commonwealth Railways "Trans Australian" from Perth to Port Pirie in 1975 and it was hauled by CL1.
A great loco hauling a terrific train - a "halfway" version of the new "Indian Pacific", if you like. :)
@@hcrun Sad CL1 no longer exists, was rebuilt in 1992 as CLP15 and destroyed in the Mt Christie collision 2/97
Do you drive for 8 or 12 hours without a meal break or dunny break.
We Do yes! But if the toilet calls. We use the locos.
The brake levers on the left. Is one a dynamic brake?.
Nope, far left, automatic brake/ train brake / one next to it is the independent / locomotive brake.
@@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER thank you.
@@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER I believe in Europe, that they have a panel showing what maximum speed you are allowed at that particular section and that could change maybe due to track conditions plus an indicator on what signal you are in, go, caution and stop? Same on your locomotives? Thank you. I enjoy your videos. Sometimes I see those Pacific National trains coming from the Blue scope foundry in Hastings on the Franskton line with steel products. My favorite European locomotives are the electric Siemens Taurus and Vectron locomotives.
Man I wish the railroads in the states would let us wear shorts lol! Whats the weight of some of your heavier trains over there?
Most of our trains are only around 1500 to 6000t loaded but there are larger train on the coal and iron ore lines.
Great video, what's with the bottle jack?
Incase there's issues with bottom doors on the wagons.
Jeeze i love that sound. Honestly im gunna use this to fall asleep of a night. Id love to hear just a full shift of locomotive sounds from that engine room and cab. The ticking sound is the air compressor right?
Its funny how close the train sim sound is to real life. Do any of your locos have kettles? I noticed a few up here in the north have jugs/kettles on the dash. Throwback to old steam loco times.
The ticking sound is the Hasler
@@paulusintas8627 odometer?
Was all that engine talk at the start something you learn on the job and is expected to know? It was all Japanese talk to me LOL! Awesome again. Love to see a repeat in a C class :)
Yes we have to know that and much more on the job, thats why it takes so long to become a driver.
I wanted to a train driver another dream that fizzled out, is that on the standard gauge? They are the same as the S class but don’t have the cab at the back
Yes similar to the S class. Yes ON SG.
And thats also correct the GMs don't have a rear cab.
11.12 is that a supercharger
Roots blower but technically a charger yeah.
Why does Australia have such old trains? Dessert climate better for them? Love these old EMDs!
Because smaller operators don't like to spend money on new stuff.
@@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER And nowadays most offerings from EMD and GE are the SD70 and Evolution series respectively, don't fit within the outdated loading gauge out here.
1:45 Is that ever the truth. EMD locomotives just run and run [and run]. . .