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- Here's Why Griffith Will BETRAY the Godhand.
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As I continue along my day I constantly wonder how Berserk will end. So, I randomly come up with theories as to how the story will progress, and this video is an example of that: How Griffith will betray the Godhand, and how he will do that.
Let me know: What do you think about this theory, and do you think that Griffith will truly betray the Godhand? Also, drop your own theories in the comments.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:17 - The Main Idea(s)
1:34 - Explaining the Main Ideas
2:40 - More In-depth into how this Works
4:00 - Diving into Chapter 49
8:50 - Another explanation: Chapter 77/78
9:51 - The Importance of Causality; How Griffith will Betray the Godhand
11:46 - That's it - What do you think?
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I’m nowhere near caught up on Berserk, but given what I’ve seen of Griffith thus far, he has more than enough audacity to betray the Godhand
Ofc Griffith is gonna be the one to defeat the godhand he is the protagonist after all.
@@askechad7478 ?
@@askechad7478 Insane that people don't realise the only way Griffith could keep Guts and Casca alive during the eclipse was by making it look like he was torturing them both so that the rest of the Godhand wouldn't question his actions while he waited for Skull Knight to come and save them. Griffith is the true hero.
@@Fatb0ybadb0y how could griffith know about the Skull Knight ?
@@Ness_y Once he is in the godhand he becomes practically omniscient.
The problem is the moonlight child who's body is possessed by Femto, MLC is pure and removed from evil, something that the elders on Elfhelm kept saying about him, so Griffith can't become good, he could always destroy other evil, but he will continue to be evil, MLC's role is to be the good in that body, once Griffith "becomes good" MLC would become pointless as a character, and he was the demon baby which was in the black swordsmen arc at the beginning of the series, so MLC plays too big of a role to become pointless like this... most likely MLC will take over the body slowly, he already controls Griffith by protecting Casca and he loves Guts too, which likely means Griffith might not even be able to harm Guts... What is really interesting is that MLC seems to have more control over the body than Griffith, because when he is in control during a full moon, Griffith is completely absent, only experiencing MLC's existence as a dream while MLC is in control.
this exactly. this is why i don't believe the Griffith redeeming himself on his own.
Moonlight Boy will be the catalyst to cause Femto to pause at a crucial point in the story and let Guts take the W
I think there's a difference between redeeming Griffith and humanizing him
ngl a good portion of theories I hear are just blown out of proportion conspiracies, this is sensible story-wise and completely holds itself together, great work, ima hit that red button
@Arveuss
Imagine a world where you are built to be beloved. A world designed around your Ascension, where everyone loves you and you can do no wrong. Sounds great, right? But when you can do no wrong, then there are no limits to how bad you can be.
Guts treated Griffith as a human being. Guts calls Griffith out, pushes back against him and thus also against the entire world. Griffith needs Guts because Guts is the only one who makes sense to Griffith, the only one not enthralled by him, the only one to treat him like a human being.
You assume Griffith wants to be treated like a human being seriously that's the problem, with a lot of you guys you make assumptions thinking he's was just a regular guy that made a mistake because he was being controlled by fate, yet you ignore the fact that Griffith only got the opportunity to become a member of the God hand, is because he had a personality similar to their's, they literally called him their beloved child of darkness am sorry your understanding of Griffith is deeply flawed.
Best video I've seen on Griffith. You fully understand his character. Knowing Miura was obsessed with Star Wars I see it likely that Griffith might sacrifice himself or do something earth shattering to defeat Void (Miura said "Void is the key") and end the cycle in order to save Guts much like Vader to Palpatine. I think these emotions he still harbours for Guts will ultimately result in him defying causality. I could see him and Guts teaming up at the end and Griffith losing his Godhand powers and returning to his human self with full emotions and vulnerability. Maybe they'll both die together in a quasi Devilman ending.
miura said there will be a happy ending
That's so cringe I really hope your wrong
@@fckinfruit6776 I believe every word he fucking said and yes there will be a happy ending.
@@davidcarty7584honestly. Griffith is irredeemable it would be a slap in the face if guts teamed up with the guy that killed his friends and assaulted his girl
@@goon3310 the void of evil
Griffith being tortured was also part of fates plan for him because he needed to pay a price to become a member of the God hand and sacrificing the band of the hawk alone isn't enough he needed to suffer himself and sacrifice some of himself aswell.
i think the torture was necessary so he would finally lose all his humanity and agree to sacrificing the band of the hawk. because it wouldnt be such an easy thing even for griffith, hence the torture to make him go the final yard (that horrifying but awesome moment when he finally says 'i sacrifice').
A thing people hate to accept is that it took the torture to break Griffith down enough to make the sacrifice. A peak health grif would reject the god hand as he can't trust the demon's words so readily. That's the point of the behelit. If you pay attention to all the apostle's back stories, they all activate the behelit at their worst moment in life. When they are most vulnerable and easily swayed. So 100% grif was manipulated by the god hand, as are most of the apostles. I wouldn't put it past grif to betray the god hand due to his pride and also aim to destroy the Idea of Evil itself.
this just completely ignores Moonlight Child so its very unlikely that Griffith will have any sort of "development" like that, and going back to be buddies with Guts (ignoring all the burnt bridges there) or anything similar
The only case for this is I can actually see Femto betray the other four members ...for more power, to become the only Kingsman, and be at the top of the top. that is the only possible context for him to do such a thing imo
I think it’s made pretty clear the tears in 364 are the moon light boys. And the feelings of nostalgia or any feelings disappear when he transforms back into Griffith again. He’s referring to the transitional emotions.
I'm pretty sure that it is supposed to be Griffith's, since that type of tear has a name: the "manly tear" which is when a man that is not meant to show emotions needs to cry, he will only cry one single tear, because man shouldn't be seen exposed, weak, vulnerable; so the single tear is the expression of showing emotions while still being emotionless
@@Earthbound500 No 💀
@@godli7806 apart from Griffith actually explaining that when he's the moon child he gets remembered of the time with the Band of the Hawk and tells it as something he misses only for the feelings to disappear the moment he turns back to Griffith it still counts as a "manly tear"
This also makes sense because Miura based Griffith on Kouji Mori, his best friend. It may have to do with showing that your friends really are there for u
I believe part of the significance of the Moon Boy is that it represents a part of Griffith's humanity that has survived his transformation into a demon. So even though he believed he proved to himself that visiting the field of swords would determine whether any of his past emotions remain, that probably all changes whenever he becomes the Moon Boy. So literally and symbolically there is part of Griffith's fighting against himself internally.
It also seems like a very Miura-type thing to do by raising questions concerning moral paradoxes by taking the most horrific thing imaginable (the ray.p of Casca), and using it to be the catalyst which sets into motion the defeat of the god-hand.
Griffith is insane would be dope
Griffith didn't care about Guts as a friend, he was obsessed with Guts because Guts was the first person to defeat Griffith in combat and earn his freedom of Griffiths control. Griffith couldn't handle it and proceeded to self destruct. Even when Guts came am rescued him, Griffiths first response was to try and choke Guts. Then, to add insult to injury, and knowing Guts and Caska were developing a relationship (Griffith was now loosing the control he had over Caska), he proceeds to commit the ultimate betrayal and force himself on Caska in front of Guts. How can anyone think Griffith cares about Guts and his well being is beyond me
Yes Griffith is so past redemption its not even funny. Hopefully Caska could be the one with the final blow
Really good video! When I finished reading 364 and saw the panel of griffith crying, I had a similar realisation. If the climax of the story is just a fight between guts and griffith, then no true change would have been accomplished in the end - the god hand would still exist and be able to just continue their plan (whatever it is) Having guts kill all the god hand members first, to get to the final confrontation between him and griffith in the end, would also just be kind of boring storytelling imo. Also, realising he has been manipulated and fighting against the godhand, is the only direction Griffiths character can go at this point, if he is not to become stagnant. Otherwise, what would have been the point in showing that Griffith still can feel emotions towards Casa, thanks to the moonlightboy, if this didn't push his character in a new direction? It would also be much more fitting with the way characters in Berserk generally are handled if we got to see some sort of "redemption" arc or at least got to realise, that the reason for the choices he made, isn't as simple as "because he is evil!"
Great points. Griffith has never been black and white. He is very nuanced and many of his actions are multilayered. Miura is not one to do just good vs evil everything he has done goes beyond and treads on a moral gray area.
Bro this is a great theory keep it up👍
You did a great job bro. New sub ;)
finally someone who agrees that it was not the moonlight boy crying it was griffith himself he still has some humanity even tho hes an apostle we that with the count saving his daughter .apostles are a metaphor for evil humans after all .. the berserk readers are so emotional so they see characters as one dimentional.
Griffith sacrifice his treasure the band of the hawk for his dream. He lost his humanity. He selfish and think only about himself.
Griffith is not one to easily trick. He would have realized all this before he even uttered the words 'I sacrifice'. I think Griffith is plotting their downfall so that he can reign unchallenged in every corner of creation.
I agree, but for different reasons.
Sometime after the golden age, there's a quote like "Griffith has to fly higher and higher"
I think Griffith will likely try to overthrow the godhand for his own gain. Using Falconia and the war demons as his literal or nonliteral "sacrifice"
Guts and Casca being the only things emotionally grounding and holding him back.
you’re the only berserk content creator i’m gonna watch from this moment cause only you say things I agree with
Never just watch one source. I don’t think this theory is even close to correct but it’s still a fun listen lol
It’s better to hear every perspective
It's all cyclical. The God Hand is completed, and the last member betrays or consumes them, leaving the Final Member and The Struggler, consumed by their Beast of Darkness. It happened for Void and Skull Knight. Femto and the Wolf are on the same path. Ever decreasing circles....
Maybe Guts is gonna convince him by changing causality, when he forgets about Griffith, now Griffith is invincible cause Guts just think of him.
But when Guts turn his back against him he is going to loose his invulnerability and maybe then he will fight against the God hand, to go on his own path.
*"No honor amoungst theives"*
Okay. This popped in my head. Guts behelit. He's on a set path to Griffith now.. direct collision course. Behelit comes with.. what if Griffith uses another behelit? Also he's gathering all the strongest apostles to his side, including zodd, who, according to early lore, are "more tasty" sacrifices if they draw out their deaths. This would result in even more power to Griffith.. Just an idea, but after 372, I'm seriously wandering about it..
Griffith about to come for yohans place 😛
There is also a hint towards that in the newer chapters, where Guts is asked about Griffiths' goals. And when it is mentioned that Griffiths' goal is a kingdom, Guts says that this is only a step for him, not his real goal. Taking into consideration, that Griffiths wants to rule all and everything including the Godhand, it is very likely that he will do something to put himself on top of the Godhand. What actions he will do to reach that goal remains an open question though, but betraying them seems plausible.
Been thought of this years ago lmao
The first part
Griffith may betray the Godhand, but not because of petty revenge. I would see Griffith betraying them because he wants to be at the top, above Void. Griffith wants to rise, not to achieve a goal, but to rise as high as possible. He will not be satisfied at any point in his ascension. I could also see Griffith betraying the Godhand because it is the plan of the Idea of Evil. The Idea wants a clean slate once in a while, and Griffith is its instrument.
When I first read the manga I did think that maybe at some point Griffith would end up betraying them too...after learning about them, he saw it as having no choice but to do it. but hard to tell rn
Naw i doubt that he will because if you seen his talk with the idea of Evil he pretty much knows his existence had a predestined plan and everything he ever did or wanted was because of the idea of evil
That does make sense
Interesting theory; after going through the eclipse in anime and manga so many times I would say it definitely seems like Griffith was manipulated by the Godhand, this may be unpalatable to a lot of people as they would want things a lot more cut and dry, black/white than that
I believe Griffith is trying to push Guts into using the Beherit and have Guts serve him again.
He can't lmao. He literally can't.
🤦♂️ the other member's of the God hand gave Griffith a choice between joining them by sacrificing the band of the hawk and becoming a demon king or living the rest of his life as cripple the point is it was all Griffith choice
I think this a pretty common theory since the start of Fantasia arc. What is rare is "how to" theory of such scenario.
Although, I have a bigger twist theory on this topic, that "Void will most likely betray Godhand."
So far, he is simply the most enigmatic character in all of Berserk, & it is pretty clear that he has an ultier motive in the overal scope of Godhand, Idea of Evil, & causality.
The intro totally reminds me of when I've been super spun on Ritalin or Adderall. No offense. I just get super excited thinking I've figured things out.
I think you might really have hit a nail on its head here.
I could see this happening
Doesn't griffth already know that the God hand orchestrated all this though? I'm sure there is a point in eclipse where they tell him that he was a product of their plan
No they didn't. They follow the flow of Causality.
@TallicaMan1984 the flow of causality is orchestrated by them though. And if we go off OG release, IOE is griffith as griffith is it. However since IOE ain't cannon can't say 100 percent what I said is true. But the godhand do play a role in what they call causality.
lol dude drinking that Koolaid
The god hand serve the Idea of Evil, and the idea of evil owes its very existence to the collective unconscious of humanity as a whole. If the idea of evil were to die, or perhaps even….be transformed into something more benevolent due to a certain….Hawk of Light instilling optimism and hope to humanity, this would threaten the God Hand. Or perhaps they would even cease to exist entirely. Maybe Void was the herald of a new desired god when he became a God Hand, and perhaps Griffith is the next evolution of that. If Void was the newest God Hand in that panel where we see him with four other members who no longer are part of it, Griffith very well be the one to remake the god hand. We know from what we’ve seen so far that there are only five members of the god hand(makes sense, it’s a hand). The first four serve as the progenitor of a new Hand in the case of the leader, and stewards, with the fifth member ushering in the end of the old order and the birth of a new one. I believe it’s entirely possible that Griffith, though he did horrible things, could very well be what frees humanity from the idea of evil and brings them to the next, more hopeful stage of history.
I don't think betraying is the right word more like replacing, when we see the memories inside of the berserker armor we can see void(big brain guy) in there with other god hand members, so we can assume they get replaced and the last one becomes the leader.
Does anyone know the animation at 3:53?
A King does not betray those that are beneath him
I feel like the members of the god hand are kinda selfish because werent they manipulating bloodlines to make griffith born to make him be the 5th one of the god hand they did all of that just so they would get a 5th member for their use now idk the goal of the god hand but they definetly need griffith.
Do y’all think Griffith and Guts will be ally’s again?
Would you like to hanging out with someone that rape your girlfriend and kill your friend sadisticly , dont bother hanging out just see the person from a far
definitely not
Nah, that spot if filled. The flags for enemies turned ally is painfully being shown to be guts and zodd.
Griffith will sacrifice the godhands to become God
do i hear a pokemon black and white city then song? i can’t remember what coty
Hands down the best anime I've ever seen.
Oh ive thought of somthing similiar a few days ago.
Sorry to break it for you. But Griffith is way beyond redemption.
Hmmm you might be on to something 🤔
I think Griffith might sacrifice himself to save the world or something
IVE COME UP WITH THE SAME THEORY!!!
I agree I think he knows so he leaves guts alive
Yeah it was all Ubik’s petty ass
I believe Griffith will go against the godband as well but I have some issues with this vid.
I dont think Griffith would have a problem being manipulated by the godhand as in his eyes it was him getting off track on what he truly wanted and they reminded him that he has a greater purpose.
Griffith crying in the panel is not Griffith's tears but the tears of moonlight boy. Griffith currently is pure evil and has no feelings for Guts, but the boy whose body he shares does have a freethinking mind and clearly cares for both Guts and Casca. When he transforms back to Griffith it could be seen as the boy being stripped of his parents and being submitted.
Frankly im not sure how Griffith could turn the tides of the plot, but I strongly think the moonlight boy is the key to Griffith and the motion of causality.
I really don’t think this theory is true but still interesting to listen to. I think the series is coming to an end & it’s probably going to be really sad
Either Guts is going to have to die (suicide or be killed) or Guts is going to have to kill the Moonlight child in front of casca & the crew at the realization that the Moonlight child is Griffith
The happy ending would be
they find a way to kill Griffith in the astral realm during a full moon so the Moonlight Child is spared on the physical plane but Griffith is gone but this would probably still lead to Guts dying along with Griffith in his apostle form
Tbh, I don't think he would care if the Godhand had played a role in his decision
he'll turn on heaven for his boyfriend? sounds legit.
Until this day Griffith still my favorite and don’t forget he built Hawks and everyone belongs to him . Guts was his first true friend but he betrayed him
perhaps griffith will become the idea of evil, you see him manipulate the sword of actuation perhaps as his powers effect causality. Perhaps the godhand are manipulating him to take that mantle, If there have been previous cycles perhaps like replaced godhand there is one chosen who seeks the highest position.
GRIFFITH ONLY CARES FOR HIMSELF, ITS GONNA BE GRORIUS!!
I'm sure Griffith WOULD betray the Godhand if he COULD betray the Godhand.
He can no more betray them than you could betray your own intentions. What he wants, they want. They are the instrument of his desires, including Femto.
If Griffith DOES betray them, it will be to sacrifice them as well as himself, to earn an eternal Kingdom in the minds of man. Think about why Guts can't kill Griffith... you can't kill an idea. When Griffith meets the idea of evil, the thing he believes is God itself... what created that God? The collective will of people wanting to give reason for suffering. Well... Griffith wants it all, right? If people thought of Griffith whenever they wanted to think of something opposite of the idea of evil, then Griffith would essentially BE GOD.
🤔🤔🤔
Idk.. this theory has potential.. it I don't think Griffith will go AGAINST causality... I think he will start trying to make causality work for him... And make causality work against the god hand.. because Griffith goes with causality.. he got a major hard on when he was told he was destined to become Femto.. Guts is the one who goes against causality.. not Griffith.. I think Griffith will go against the godhand but by try to bend causality and humanities will in his favor... And who's to say that the godhand aren't fine with Griffith becoming the most powerful and the ruler of the God Hand? We think void is the end all be all .. but maybe void is fine with being number two? 🤷♂️ We dont know the god hands ultimate goals.. so... That's my thoughts anyway..
griffussy best character
I think so sincerely I think they will betray Griffith through guts
you know
tripping hard
The problem is that femto and griffith aren’t the same.
How ? And what characteristics ?
lmfao 😂
ok but why did he rape casca tho
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No.
Remember that time when griffith had a vision , with casca and his kids(one named guts) , i think somehow that will be the end of berserk , griffith will destroy fate itself for all humanity to live free , guts will somehow die in the proces
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Sorry bro but this is just dumb. You’re clearly only read it once. Read it a few more times, and deep it a bit. Almost all of the interpretations you have made are wrong in my opinion.
1st I don’t even know why everyone takes at face value what Griffith says to Charlotte during Bal night, he was clearly just spouting some pompous ideology (that he clearly does not believe) in order to impress the princess, as that was quite literally one of the few times he would get to talk to her. I think it is more than obvious from his actions that he does not believe what he said about true friendship and equality and all that crap.
2nd When he transforms in front of guts from moonlight boy, those tears are not his, they are moonlight boy’s, again quite clear.
3rd he is not tricked by the godhand. Yes he is influenced by them but not by all means tricked. And he is also fully aware of what happened, thus your theory does not make any sense.
4th Sorry to say it, and I don’t like it too much either, but he is clearly in love with guts.
It's not much that he's tricked, it's more that with his new god powers, he could have figured out that his whole life was carefully planned on some aizen shit. Plus it's very in character for griffith to aim even higher than the god hand. My guess is he's after the idea of evil itself.
bro i think you really couldn't put pieces together. i get your points but its not something new and you didn't say anything we didnt hear. its not the greatest theory either you just overhyped.