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  • @redflags6583
    @redflags6583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2401

    Here's a theory.
    God has *two* hands

    • @luc7478
      @luc7478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +341

      Holy Shit

    • @randallmokjialung3592
      @randallmokjialung3592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +518

      Plot twist² :
      God feet

    • @Shinwicked
      @Shinwicked 3 ปีที่แล้ว +278

      I am wating for GODDICK

    • @lorddevilfish5868
      @lorddevilfish5868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Here’s a another theory........... the other hand belongs to SCHNOZ!!!!

    • @user-mh6ju3pg8c
      @user-mh6ju3pg8c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@randallmokjialung3592 god mouth

  • @RBKJesusEC
    @RBKJesusEC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1639

    While everyone is talking about the glimpse of the previous godhand, no one is even questioning what Schnoz might be scheming

    • @dannyVulture
      @dannyVulture 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      Nuts. Who do you think resides inside the deepest part of the Idea of Evil.

    • @crazyroundman7049
      @crazyroundman7049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      @@mightdai7489 my profile pic. Remember this thing that showed up for 3 panels? Its the grand schemer pf the whole story above even the godhand and the idea of evil. Wouldnt be surprised if he were some cosmic horrific entity greater than cthulhu

    • @comicsdude3166
      @comicsdude3166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mightdai7489 th-cam.com/video/mUJZxBfcO5M/w-d-xo.html

    • @comicsdude3166
      @comicsdude3166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@mightdai7489 so fear schnoz.

    • @Strawberrymilkdrink
      @Strawberrymilkdrink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Theres no point in trying to understand something so perfect

  • @deeta000
    @deeta000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1086

    I feel a lot of people are overthinking the tentacle scenery, like it’s some big monster. I just think it’s as simple as it being another weird background whenever the Godhand is summoned.

    • @OPTSXFilosoofis
      @OPTSXFilosoofis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +171

      I personally think each eclipse has a different setting based on time and place + the new potential godhand member. But we will probably never know.

    • @doomguy9049
      @doomguy9049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      It looks like a bunch of tapeworms inside the guts of some giant beast

    • @scary_guy_5412
      @scary_guy_5412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@doomguy9049 Impressive. You've actually made it worse to think about than it already is.

    • @TallicaMan1986
      @TallicaMan1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@OPTSXFilosoofis I think this is it. This might've taken place in a Forest.

    • @slane2148
      @slane2148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The tentacles look like spines

  • @Milkra
    @Milkra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1590

    The fact that we might actually never know what the hell the deal was with these guys hurts me so bad

    • @imonke5303
      @imonke5303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      It hurts us all

    • @ndnbbbear
      @ndnbbbear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      It may hut but that maybe a good thing a mystery is what we need......problem is the creator is gone.........may he be at peace

    • @Berserk_96
      @Berserk_96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      Well before dying Miura did say that out of all the Godhand members, Void is the only we should focus on.
      Which made me think he is the main villain of the series along The Idea of Evil

    • @Katarinarabbit
      @Katarinarabbit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Void is the devil and femto ubik slane Conrad are the four horsemen.

    • @DERocher1
      @DERocher1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Not only that but skullknight as well! Was he a former godhand member? Was he king geisrick? Was he a friend of geisrick. What is his connection to zodd!?

  • @greggaygayakutami1402
    @greggaygayakutami1402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +834

    Who wins?
    Omnipotent Reality Warping Entities
    Or
    One Skully Causality BOI

    • @luck_adiante
      @luck_adiante 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yes

    • @alicelydielmargatroid9543
      @alicelydielmargatroid9543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey former top commentary Rei Links

    • @greggaygayakutami1402
      @greggaygayakutami1402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alicelydielmargatroid9543 I am not a Touhou fan, I am a Satori Worshipper
      Oh wait that's the same thing.

    • @aaronhensley5359
      @aaronhensley5359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      One Skully Causality is one pissed off skull tho.

    • @kadirizaid3006
      @kadirizaid3006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One skully boi with an egg-sword

  • @princeindisguise
    @princeindisguise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +833

    Remember Miura said if we want to know the godhand's goal he'll give us a hint and the hint was Void. So whatever Void did we'll know Femto most likely will do something very similar. They also had similar events happen to them. Example: King Gaeseric had Void tortured in the tower of Conviction as a human. The king of Midland had Griffith tortured in the tower of Rebirth. And both were 5th editions to the Godhand.

    • @GILGAMESH069
      @GILGAMESH069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I N T E R E S T I N G

    • @dylanyewest534
      @dylanyewest534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +187

      Doesn’t skull knight also mention something about history repeating itself? If so, then what you said would definitely make sense

    • @pwnulater
      @pwnulater 3 ปีที่แล้ว +171

      @@dylanyewest534 he said that history repeats its self but its always a little different each time

    • @UnkleKnuck
      @UnkleKnuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      @@dylanyewest534 He said time is a spiral, not a circle

    • @ahmadalhashmi8940
      @ahmadalhashmi8940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@UnkleKnuckI think it wasn't the skull knight that said it but it was schierke's master that said the quote about the spiral

  • @azmiraclegirl441
    @azmiraclegirl441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +527

    Im calling it. The Void elevates humans to the "The Godhand" then devours them to maintain his strength. There is no Godhand, only the Void.

    • @pablocristobar5783
      @pablocristobar5783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      That’s not possible because he didn’t elevate the other four cause they were there before him

    • @weezor9578
      @weezor9578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Void is his name, not the void

    • @AverageDBFan
      @AverageDBFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      I just feel like Void IS in someway using the godhand, since he was the only survivor of the previous one

    • @tomgardner2253
      @tomgardner2253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@weezor9578 I thought it was Boyd

    • @spookzer16
      @spookzer16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@weezor9578 Yeah, but the Void sounds cooler in this context.

  • @InsecticideV
    @InsecticideV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    I think your theory of Void being the first and OG member of the Godhand (and that he got the first Behelit) is further strengthened by how there were no Apostles in Skull Nights eclipse.

    • @literaryminds3530
      @literaryminds3530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Pretty sure the were if you look and those short multipanels you can see them

    • @seanwegner9925
      @seanwegner9925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@literaryminds3530 all of those creatures look exactly the same as one another. I think we’re being tricked into thinking this is an a Eclipse when it’s actually something else. Apostles look distinctly different from one another and never ever exactly the same as another.

  • @ericschuller908
    @ericschuller908 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    The idea that the former members of the God Hand were destroyed and that Void had to rebuild their ranks over time is one that I find exceptionally appealing.

    • @clousdy5464
      @clousdy5464 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Despite how appealing the idea is I personally find it hard to believe considering you couldn't touch neither void or griffith even with the sword of actuation

  • @GILGAMESH069
    @GILGAMESH069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +630

    4:04 speaking of witch I,ve noticed that in every berserk arc we've introduced into a new kind of behelit
    Black swordsman arc - regular benefits
    Golden age - the crimson behelit
    Conviction arc - the egg of the perfect world
    The minimum falco - the man made behelit
    So is it possible that we will see a new kind of behelit with nearing the climax of fantasia to say reincarnate the other four godhand members into the physical world ?

    • @cbt7commender980
      @cbt7commender980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Never heard this, very interesting though!

    • @PatZalatoris
      @PatZalatoris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Interesting idea,maybe we see a godhand member being turned into a crimson behelit

    • @fahadrahman5059
      @fahadrahman5059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      godhand members got into physical world After the blast of astral world

    • @GILGAMESH069
      @GILGAMESH069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@fahadrahman5059 they don't have full physical bodies like femto , they still need an extra push

    • @justbny9278
      @justbny9278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      maybe the new behelit
      Just check this out
      maybe
      Maybe the new behelit
      Is the Idea of Evil
      jahdjkashdkfjhaskjfhaskhfkjasf

  • @esotericwarrior7261
    @esotericwarrior7261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I love the idea of the corpses at the bottom of the tower of rebirth having put the brand of sacrifice on to themselves so that they can ascend void their cult leader so that he can serve the idea of evil for all eternity. The first sacrifices ever made to the idea of evil were completely voluntary.

    • @Michael-hc2vs
      @Michael-hc2vs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's highly unlikely void was the first to make sacrifices, who knows how long this has been going on. On the panel of SK's memories it's likely Void was the newest Godhand at that point.

  • @geej18
    @geej18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +327

    I stumbled across Berserk by mistakes a few years back. It was a video showing the violence of the eclipse in the 1997 anime. Best mistake I've ever made!

    • @aman6279
      @aman6279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Same, saw that scene when i was 11 and it terrified me. But im glad i found it

    • @waigelmartis7891
      @waigelmartis7891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You just unlocked a memory i had buried deep

    • @ananijedzankic
      @ananijedzankic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There are no mistakes. Just happy accidents.

    • @iWubBass
      @iWubBass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      So basically you ruined it for yourself by starting with the most pivotal point in the entire work.

    • @geej18
      @geej18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@iWubBass I didn't know it was pivotal when i stumbled upon it.

  • @GilesCorey2011
    @GilesCorey2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +642

    If you are going to sacrifice me, send more of the big tidies demon that murdered corkus!

    • @fosevn613
      @fosevn613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Underrated comment😂😂

    • @sv32099
      @sv32099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Yes please i at least want to die thinking I'm with a gorgeous woman

    • @mitodrudito5806
      @mitodrudito5806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Too bad guts murder that woman.. After he had sex with her, actually that was his first apostle kill iirc

    • @wisemankugelmemicus1701
      @wisemankugelmemicus1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@mitodrudito5806 Chronologically, his first Apostle kill was the one right after he got the Dragonslayer. The tiddy demon was after he left Godot and his granddaughter.

    • @mitodrudito5806
      @mitodrudito5806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@wisemankugelmemicus1701 oops missed that one, she is the first apostle guts fuck then... Literally

  • @aliidris657
    @aliidris657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +940

    Is MultiBoob the official name now? I love it.

    • @RealLifeRyan
      @RealLifeRyan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      It is for me lol

    • @greggaygayakutami1402
      @greggaygayakutami1402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      The bearded one is Discount Ganishka

    • @8_cat._.hat_8
      @8_cat._.hat_8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Forgot vag face

    • @sond.lollipop8919
      @sond.lollipop8919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@greggaygayakutami1402 wouldn’t ganishka be the discount one?

    • @greggaygayakutami1402
      @greggaygayakutami1402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@sond.lollipop8919 characterization wise no
      But character strength yes

  • @someguy4405
    @someguy4405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    Here’s a theory: The Godhand get sacrificed to pull an even BIGGER existential sanity yeet.

    • @ausgamecollector
      @ausgamecollector 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They should’ve just called Lain...

    • @christaarez1391
      @christaarez1391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ausgamecollector or Juan

    • @Dino-pq9bj
      @Dino-pq9bj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And then doom slayer gets Reincarnated

    • @shubhamsharma2923
      @shubhamsharma2923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And that also gets sacrificed for a even bigger existential sanity

    • @redrage369
      @redrage369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If that’s a god hand, imagine the whole thing

  • @FrostSoul-qs6kq
    @FrostSoul-qs6kq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    Look I'm not saying it was Causality .... But it's always Causality ....

    • @f2t948
      @f2t948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      -Skull knight probably.

    • @FrostSoul-qs6kq
      @FrostSoul-qs6kq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@f2t948 That dude ruins causality ..... We don't invite him to our causality parties

    • @FrostSoul-qs6kq
      @FrostSoul-qs6kq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh hey its me from a year ago ...

  • @khaelstorm2552
    @khaelstorm2552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +327

    If the “Old Godhand” are indeed made of something other than human, or humans from a time when connections with nature and magic were stronger, explaining their otherworldly appearances, perhaps they possessed limitations the new Godhand don’t because they come from humans from a more cynical age, as it all depends on one’s feelings and own mentality and capabilities (especially if the lost chapter is to be taken into consideration) , perhaps this is why the Idea of Evil wanted mankind to distance themselves from all magic and arcane knowledge through the Holy See, to create stronger Godhand and apostles from people with less compassion and whose capacity for evil knows no bounds... I especially enjoyed your comparisons to the four seasons on the designs of the old Godhand and I believe you may be on to something here. Anyway cheers mate love your content.

    • @TakotsuboTime
      @TakotsuboTime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      This also makes sense due to human creativity and imagination. There's not much room for imagination when you can see just about anything beyond understanding and come to understand it. Humans have this ability to create truly anything from nothing when they don't understand. Religion came from not understand why things happen or what comes after death, and there truly are an endless amount of answers that we as a species have come up with that are all so wildly different. Humans of old would simply have the answers, leaving no room to wonder and create their own.

    • @vicentgalvan70
      @vicentgalvan70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It actually fits rather well: spring (fertility godess), summer (lion thing that look like a sun flower), fall (vagina mouth) and winter (ice giant). That being said, I think only humans can be God Hands. Their weird form, as it was said, just represent more abstract natural concepts.

    • @pedrolanna1551
      @pedrolanna1551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe some of these God Hand members are still the same, they just took a different form.

  • @supersaiyanwrastler2343
    @supersaiyanwrastler2343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    I know there are theories about griffith betraying the godhand. If that is true, then what if Void betrayed the original godhand and thats why theyre all gone. And even better Void would suspect griffith of betraying him

    • @eragonbromsson1122
      @eragonbromsson1122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I don't think that the Idea of Evil would allow them to do such a thing.

    • @nerdytechs514
      @nerdytechs514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      @@eragonbromsson1122 but if you actually think about it, it’s possible the most evilest thing one could ever do is sacrifice the god hand members themselves.

    • @northernsurvival8763
      @northernsurvival8763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@nerdytechs514 i guess not
      They are like colleagues
      Would you say your colleagues are your desrest people?
      (Sorry for my english)

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nerdytechs514 The Godhand members already sold their souls to demonkind, they can't get sacrificed again

    • @officialtjtrev8910
      @officialtjtrev8910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nerdytechs514
      Could be possible but i dont think griffith has a strong attachment with the godhand to sacrifice them

  • @adembadem9150
    @adembadem9150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    7:20 One of my fav panels in Berserk. I laughed for good 10mins after I saw Ubik chilling with his pals. Damn Miura was really talented. Rip legend.

    • @marcof1804
      @marcof1804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That scene is straight up a manga trascription of a Hieronymous Bosch painting. Love the detail.

    • @blubablubahumbug
      @blubablubahumbug ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jonathan Crane I think he's at the table of the cracked butt on the crazy man thing

  • @an18yearoldmongolianguy
    @an18yearoldmongolianguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +548

    Ryan, I'm convinced that Miura hates your theory videos because they accurately predict his future plans for the story, and that you are the reason he likes going on long hiatuses.
    Edit: Rest in peace, Miura-sensei. Your work changed the lives of millions, including me. I wish you the best in the afterlife.

    • @realpimpin9623
      @realpimpin9623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Miura: I’ve finally finished the next five chapters! Back to releasing at a steady pace
      Ryan: *predicts everything Miura is about to release
      Miura: *balls up paper, goes into his room and shuts the door

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      His theories are always way off tho and almost always go off absolutely nothing

    • @monarchist1633
      @monarchist1633 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@realpimpin9623 hahahaha

    • @mathewoliva1033
      @mathewoliva1033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A comment that aged like milk

    • @yeetwchybaban
      @yeetwchybaban 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hmm

  • @David-xt9uf
    @David-xt9uf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    That leftmost member of the Godhand (the one you said looks like a frost giant) looks a lot like Ganishka! I'm not saying they are the same, only that they suspiciously look like each other!

    • @jakobrenner2230
      @jakobrenner2230 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe an ancestor of his?

    •  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good catch

  • @Zikk0_o
    @Zikk0_o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    This seems to be the birth of Void. We know of the tell of the Sage who cursed Gaiseric until an "angel" was sent down. Also there is the "fairytale of the Skull King" which says that 4 or 5 angels descended upon Gaiserics empire and erased everything in one night, leaving no trace of it's existence. Some might believe that it was the elementals that destroyed the kingdom, but given what was just revealed it very well could be that the 4 "angels" that descended upon the kingdom were the original Godhand and through the process of a ritual Void was born through the imprisoned Sage which then made it 5.
    I also find the brands on the foreheads of the corpses at the bottom of the tower to be a bit strange. When Guts and the Band of the Hawk were sacrificed, all of them had their brand marks on various parts of their body not just the forehead. Perhaps the corpses were apart of a different ceremony involving the Sage as a sort of cult. Perhaps it was this ceremony and other practices that led to the Sage's imprisonment. Maybe the Sage was trying to make contact with the Godhand through this branding ceremony and once he became Void he established the Brand of Sacrifice going forward. This may also explain why the flashback ritual seems different from the typical sacrifice we are accustomed to. There is no hint of a Behelit, Eclipse, or even a large hand. This seems like the literal beginning of the Godhand as a group of 5.

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Literally nothing here suggests it’s the birth of void. You all look really stupid bc you’re ignoring every detail.
      All the evidence suggest skull knight sacrificed that girl to the gold hand, hence why he is below them and they are standing above him. And in return became the skull knight.
      He obviously regrets this and is why he wants them destroyed bc they manipulated him.
      There is actually no evidence at all that substantiates anything you said about void and him standing in the centre like that means nothing as it did with Griffith. Void is probably just the oldest god hand hence why he’s the only member there in this chapter like last time
      You’re all just plucking completely irrelevant shit form thin air and reaching at straws

    • @Zikk0_o
      @Zikk0_o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@zzodysseuszz First of all, calm down.
      Second, your assumptions are no more valid than mine, it's theory crafting.
      Nothing that I've mentioned is pulled out of thin air, it's in the story. The legend goes that a sage was imprisoned in the Tower of Conviction and was visited by "angels" who then destroyed the Skull King's capital. It's heavy implied that the sage is Void.
      Why would Ganseic sacrifice her when he hates the God hand? The entire ceremony is much more different than any we've seen before.

  • @molliethomas2585
    @molliethomas2585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    That's just one of the many things I love about Berserk. It could be any one of these theories or any combination. It's so much fun to speculate.

  • @jorg3023
    @jorg3023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    I think everyone is overthinking this, maybe the simplest explanation could be the right one
    It's an eclipse, this are previous God Hands, probably there is a Guts/Griffith friendship backstory between Sk/Void, some betrayal.
    I just hope in the next chapter Sk starts explaining what we just saw and we get a proper backstory

    • @GILGAMESH069
      @GILGAMESH069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is for granted but if you didn't notice the mystery is not about that it's about the godhand

    • @mariopellegrino3702
      @mariopellegrino3702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      i just hope Miura doesn't die before the next chapter

    • @GILGAMESH069
      @GILGAMESH069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@mariopellegrino3702 oh don't worry he's an immortal vampire

    • @theblackswordsman7558
      @theblackswordsman7558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GILGAMESH069 HOW ARE THEY GODHAND??? They are probably apostles

    • @loremastedex
      @loremastedex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@theblackswordsman7558 I mean look at them they seem to important to not be godhand. What reason would there be for those 4 "Apostles" to stand right next to a newly ascended godhand. It makes more sense for them to be gpdhand that were eventually replaced as things are cyclical in Berserk.

  • @Trickool
    @Trickool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    the more I look at this pannel the harder I find it to believe it's an ascension ceremony. During femtos Ascension Conrad describes the hand as the altar, an altar for femtos baptism? idk

    • @blankinblack13
      @blankinblack13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Maybe the god hands was standing in one finger at these lovecraftian themed eclipse instead of standing on each fingers just like in bloody face themed eclipse?

    • @TrappedInFloor
      @TrappedInFloor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Maybe it doesn't look the same each time.

    • @srslydoatm9251
      @srslydoatm9251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it could be that the Godhand of Void's time served a different purpose? They may have even went by a different name, given how there wasn't a Hand involved.

    • @drunken-master7904
      @drunken-master7904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The zoomed out version of the scene, before we see the God hand as a full seems like they standing on a altar, a simple altar in a big room. Look hiw the Tentacle mimicking big pillars in a gigantic room. This picture is so well made its looks like a room and then when you zoom out it's just a gigantic chaos

    • @ausgamecollector
      @ausgamecollector 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hear what you’re saying. But it isn’t the same set of circumstances, perhaps the Vortex was more exposed and there was no hand because Void eventually replaces these 5 creatures with the current Godhand members, but only after they serve their purpose in destroying Gaeseric’s kingdom. Void being front and centre with Gaeseric’s love branded makes one thing clear, Void created the branding ritual (which he carried all the way to Femto’s incarnation ritual) and was likely responsible for the mass sacrifice at the ToC, either directly or indirectly (by way of a cult following)... Femto’s ritual also involved Apostles devouring the sacrifices, where as both the ToC and this flashback didn’t, so it’s likely the victims had their life force sucked out of their bodies and fed to the Vortex. The hair-covered Dr Seuss-like creatures emerging from between the tentacles also don’t appear to be apostles, they look too similar and primitive tbh. I think this was supposed to symbolise the same event occurring in more primitive times, where the physical and astral realms were also at a crossroads.

  • @Ziggfi
    @Ziggfi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    With this last chapter, here is just one thing I can't quite wrap my head around: the Zodd paradox
    From what we know, Zodd has been an apostle for arround 300 years (more or less). He recognised the berserker armor when Guts used it for the first time and knew SK used it. So we can understand that Zodd saw SK wearing it
    But the blood memory implied SK died facing the old godhands nearly 900 years ago
    Or Zodd is much, much older than we thought, or the scene with the old godhands wasn't exactly when SK died (somehow)

    • @billygranzow1331
      @billygranzow1331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      I don't think Zodd was saying he was 300 years old, just that it had been 300 years since he had encountered someone like Guts. He could have been out Zodding for much longer than that

    • @Ziggfi
      @Ziggfi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@billygranzow1331 To be fair, you're probably right. I was convinced that Zodd has been an apostle for "only" 300 years. But yeah, nothing really stated that. Good call

    • @sirmr6597
      @sirmr6597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Ziggfi Considering how he is the “eternal rival,” Of Skully boi, there are a few likely reasons. 1. He has heard about the stories of King G. and has seen his current armor. He probably put two and two together, when he saw the armor. 2. He may be that old and has seen the armor.

    • @lock1278
      @lock1278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I always felt like zodd was the first apostle made

    • @RealDeathMetalLover
      @RealDeathMetalLover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@billygranzow1331 Lol, I like that term: Zodding! Hahaha great!

  • @stras4472
    @stras4472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    2:53 no panel in Berserk has brought me so much fear and dread as this image has

    • @greggaygayakutami1402
      @greggaygayakutami1402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Schierke hentai scared me more

    • @stras4472
      @stras4472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@greggaygayakutami1402 there worst things out there. Trust me I have seen some shit.....

    • @Scazoid
      @Scazoid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greggaygayakutami1402 Schierke what now.

  • @jakemoyers
    @jakemoyers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    My thought is that the crimson behelits are actually former Godhand members that get passed onto a new member

    • @myamdane6895
      @myamdane6895 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think there’s only 1 crimson behelit though. Slan calls it *the* Egg of the King, not *a*

    • @princediop8190
      @princediop8190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@myamdane6895 It could just mean then only one godhand can be passed at a time

  • @danielmiller5778
    @danielmiller5778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    I have a theory: *900 GODHAND*

    • @greggaygayakutami1402
      @greggaygayakutami1402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I guess Slan is the 69th Godhand if ya know what I mean 😁

    • @GILGAMESH069
      @GILGAMESH069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@greggaygayakutami1402 I see you're a man of culture too ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @molliethomas2585
      @molliethomas2585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@greggaygayakutami1402 I see what you did there 😏

    • @theblackswordsman7558
      @theblackswordsman7558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@greggaygayakutami1402 why do you think these are God hand? They could very well be apostles. The only confirmed godhand in the flashback is Void

    • @greggaygayakutami1402
      @greggaygayakutami1402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@theblackswordsman7558 they are standing at a hand implying they are Godhand

  • @d3athraz0r22
    @d3athraz0r22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Im re reading the manga and reached a point where they are discussing skull knights myths. They said that it was "about a thousand years ago" not exactly a thousand years. They also mention 5 angels were sent by god to destroy his city in the span of a night. That must have been the Godhand. Then one of them says "werent there four of them" "oh yeah?"

  • @skullknight1465
    @skullknight1465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Wait a second, you will sacrifice us😭😭😭😂😂😂

    • @RealLifeRyan
      @RealLifeRyan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Of course not! ...
      😈

    • @skullknight1465
      @skullknight1465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RealLifeRyan I believe you😂

  • @ActionPanther
    @ActionPanther 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    What if skull night was actually a representation of “a past Griffith” whom broke free from the god hand and Zodd was actually a representation of guts? And everything happening is skull night trying to change the same fate happening to Griffith and guts?

    • @ActionPanther
      @ActionPanther 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Like I mean Griffith IS a king. What if skull night ended up getting played and ripped off in the end and that’s what changed stuff

    • @sebastianschumacher9772
      @sebastianschumacher9772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      humm seems a bit convoluted and far fetched... skull knight = guts, griffith = void, seems more likely, zodd is just a very powerful apostle

    • @kudamutee2203
      @kudamutee2203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah

  • @Firguy
    @Firguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    7:18 Pestilence, actually.
    EDIT: This theory about Void's backstory gives a lot of credence to Void being a messianic figure analogous to Jesus Christ. It's no coincidence that he's largely characterized by the marks of torture.

  • @bokagoofy
    @bokagoofy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I just crafted my own theory for the climax of Berserk. Now just hear me out: Multiboob vs Slan paizuri contest!

    • @FelixS.
      @FelixS. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think you might be on something there. Good work, buddy!

  • @josemariosmarjassi947
    @josemariosmarjassi947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I'm ok with all the 5 members ascending at the same time
    I mean, Griffith sacrificed an army to become Femto. However, it seems Void sacrificed a whole kingdom.

  • @andrewhernandez9674
    @andrewhernandez9674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, your recent videos are very good. Your skill at making them has obviously improved quite a bit. I look forward to more.

  • @exiaR2x78
    @exiaR2x78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Personally think this ceremony was the creation of the god hand. Void being the sage and the other 4 being followers of his. The other 4 being killed maybe in in this ceremony by Flora with the elemental kings. Flora being there might be how SK's spirit survived as well

  • @hansnase364
    @hansnase364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    7:20 I always thought Femto was pride. All with him wanting wings as his first wish and all.

    • @alexeiharp7676
      @alexeiharp7676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Le Monke not only pride concerning Guts, it was the loss of someone he thought he legitimately possessed and towards whom he grew feelings he didn't feel for anyone else

  • @Falcon364
    @Falcon364 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel man, great vid!

  • @marcosantonio9987
    @marcosantonio9987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are by far the best channel about berserk I found, that's my opinion though.

  • @TexasGreed
    @TexasGreed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Bruh! Maybe it's the GODFOOT!

    • @FujiRoku
      @FujiRoku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doriyaaa?

    • @xhadex7509
      @xhadex7509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FujiRoku BACK ON THE ROCKS BACK ON THE ROCKS BABEEE

  • @Darth_Bateman
    @Darth_Bateman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Considering Berserk is based off Devilman, I think the idea of cycles is definitely what's going on here.
    However, I think the previous cycle's knight was Skull Knight who is now training Guts to be the new marcher against the endless night.
    I think Skull Knight is going to kill Void and Femto will take his place as their leader.
    Eventually we will get to a point where Guts or (The Dragonslayer Knight) will kill Griffith, but I think an X-factor will put an end to the godhand once and for all and that X factor will be the moon child.

  • @cloudbloom
    @cloudbloom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video m8, I've seen a bunch of these theories on the berk fb groups and they are all fun to read and speculate on. Can't wait for the next chapter, although I doubt we will get more exposition on calcium-chan's backstory but I'm ok with that

    • @cloudbloom
      @cloudbloom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sōsuke Aizen Struggler-chan uwu

  • @snortkarl2070
    @snortkarl2070 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content ryan!

  • @lanaya2881
    @lanaya2881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    the ceremony probably take place in Gaiseric kingdom. It kindla look like a massvie building, maybe a palace.

  • @kentaromiura1312
    @kentaromiura1312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    These are actually how I visualise the voices in my head.

  • @partak4524
    @partak4524 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant analysis man!

  • @mpartner43
    @mpartner43 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice representation of the facts and observations Ryan! Good video! Mitchell Like!

  • @shaunoezkewl8271
    @shaunoezkewl8271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I feel as though the 362 gives me more of an explanation with Skull Knight attacked Void first during Femto's eclipse and not the other Godhand members.
    I think Void is the primary one who creates the rest and Skull Knight killed the previous members realizing eventually that Void is the creator and killing him will end the cycle.
    I still like the idea that the show will end with Guts and Casca having a peaceful life, Griffith will realise that being a king doesn't bring him that happiness he always craved and he will eventually die seeing Guts smiling happy with Casca.. Both Guts and Casca completely forgetting Griffith even exists making his entire life and sacrifices pointless.

    • @kirbykinetics_372
      @kirbykinetics_372 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      almost the good ending

    • @wallacefernandes9587
      @wallacefernandes9587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, but there's still their son being Griffith's body. That's some shit to solve for sure

    • @Ghostf4cekilll4
      @Ghostf4cekilll4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean. Highly optimistic. But that would be dull as hell. These dudes need to fight. This ain’t a damn soap opera

  • @spaghettimonster2798
    @spaghettimonster2798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for addressing the time error (864 years instead of 1080). The only fix I see to this is is there being a 432 year gap between Void and Ubik, where 216 after Void’s incarnation he sacrifices the previous 4 Godhand members (or Skull Knight somehow offed them).

    • @moonstonepearl21
      @moonstonepearl21 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea I remember on the Tropes and Scopes website seeing the "authors can't do math" or something like that one. It's hard to keep track of all these things, and sometimes they just screw up. It is a possibility it could mean something, though and not be a mistake, so we'll just have to wait and see.

  • @TheDemoTapes
    @TheDemoTapes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watched it again after 1 or 2 years and it`s still so nice to think about these things. This video had a lot of great ideas

  • @lavuntecolquitt
    @lavuntecolquitt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thisnwas CRAZY good. Always wondered about OTHER godhand. They couldnt be the only ESPECIALLY of Griffifth was mad into one. I like these theories bro

  • @levijetkins7423
    @levijetkins7423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I still think that void is the first god hand member ever and those other beings were just really powerful apostles. I also think that SK killed the other 4 apostles while in the Berserker armor after he surrendered completely to it. But obviously void being on a completely different level than the most powerful apostles, SK died while trying to kill void.

    • @TheDJMysterE
      @TheDJMysterE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think u might be on to something

    • @sandorcleg7393
      @sandorcleg7393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I actually think this is the most plausible theory.

    • @Michael-hc2vs
      @Michael-hc2vs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why would he be the first ever godhand? I got the feeling he was the newest Godhand member out of the ancient flashback bunch. Stood at the front for SK/Gaiseric like Griffith was for guts.

    • @levijetkins7423
      @levijetkins7423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Michael-hc2vs the God hand look distinctly different than any apostles we've seen. All the official god hand members we've seen have a Hellraiser Cenobite aesthetic. Those other beings standing next to him just look like powerful apostles.

    • @marcosantoniodepauladutra4910
      @marcosantoniodepauladutra4910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does make a lot of sense

  • @ExtremelyOnlineGuy
    @ExtremelyOnlineGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Man these theories are
    B E R S E R K

  • @nbrosna1
    @nbrosna1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like that you bring up the detail of the brands all being on the skulls' forehead.

  • @miguelpereira9859
    @miguelpereira9859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love everything about your theory. Void being a mage and the founder of the Godhand

  • @grecojones
    @grecojones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Appreciate the quick turn around on this.

  • @michaelharmon8960
    @michaelharmon8960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What I like about berserk is how both guys and griffith envy each other in the golden age ark Griffith likes guts for his simplistic outlook on life and how he easily can push down his emotions where as guts envy’s Griffith for how easily he makes friends and allies

  • @joetweet5979
    @joetweet5979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy low key makes great content

  • @josenunezmendez1236
    @josenunezmendez1236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the intro so much🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @sunsetsaint4096
    @sunsetsaint4096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Doesn’t it make more sense, to go along with one of the theories of why they look like that, that when mans beliefs changed the god hands members that resembled those beliefs basically died with the belief? It’s a less interesting answer, but makes much more sense.

  • @urobos1
    @urobos1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What if...void gathers the hand to sacrifice them.. so that he can ascend to a higher plane?

  • @iannismccluskey9219
    @iannismccluskey9219 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I love your intros. 0:48 🙂🙃🙂

  • @Senseitional_comics
    @Senseitional_comics 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and theories

  • @ShadeThaArtist
    @ShadeThaArtist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the channel, I truly do believe void predates the godhand and used his great intellect and persuasive skills to bring on new members which is why he is in the Forefront. With a brain that big how could you not be persuaded

  • @Arcanyum
    @Arcanyum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just a thought. Ubik seems to be the most contemplative of them all. He could maybe represent madness or hubris.

  • @eduardo_RX0
    @eduardo_RX0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @RealLifeRyan Nice video man!!
    In the next chapters I think we’ll see Ranar doing a improvement and upgrade on the Dragonslayer sword or Berserker Armor. What you think Ryan????

  • @blakex9
    @blakex9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I've always thought that the story is one of an infinite number of rebooted timelines. So when Guts says he saw the end, maybe he assumes his fate will be the same as the Skull Knight and Casca will die. This would possibly be the last straw for Guts and he would abandon his humanity like Skull Knight did, dawning the soul-cage armor and helping the struggler in the next timeline.

  • @edtheangler4930
    @edtheangler4930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Imagine if miura actually had a sensible schedule

  • @midknightfenerir
    @midknightfenerir ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think each new God Hand member is stronger than previous one they replaced maybe that’s why they don’t consider Skull Knight to be big of threat. I believe only void knows how truly dangerous Skull Knight actually is since he is the only one of the previous God Hand unit to survive the onslaught of King Gaiseric which he unleashed in his Berserker Armor during void’s ascension. The new members of God Hand might be arrogant and underestimate the power of Skull Knight. Which they regret when Guts will fulfill King Gaiseric/SK’s Prophecy.

  • @ScarYutaArtyom
    @ScarYutaArtyom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the intro to your videos when I hear that shit I know it’s a banger

  • @fish_cylinder
    @fish_cylinder ปีที่แล้ว

    7:19 it was so cool seeing this nod to hieronymus bosch, made me really happy when i saw it. I always wondered if Miura was inspired by his works.

  • @cesarsosa4617
    @cesarsosa4617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The first one was my theory, but I will add that I believe void, being the newest member of the god hand was tasked with rallying humanity together to a single point just like femto is now, but I think void, instead of leading humanity himself, manipulated King Gaisdrick to do it for him and that is why the resentment of SK for void comes from. Once humanity came to a single point, the ceremony of ultimate sacrifice took place and every single human being served as a sacrifice for the ultimate goal of “ascending” the oldest 4 god hand members leaving void to start the cycle himself.

  • @shiranuiprestonsaga8867
    @shiranuiprestonsaga8867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    All we need to know is that Skull Knight is a fucking legend

  • @vanpiisu88
    @vanpiisu88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love all these theories!

  • @SUPERRRSAIYANNNNN
    @SUPERRRSAIYANNNNN 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with your theory about Void, I think you've hit the nail on the head. After all, in an interview Miura was asked what is the goal of the Godhand and responded by saying "the key word is _Void_ ".

  • @yokubosrevenge9276
    @yokubosrevenge9276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I started to read berserk last week I'm on chapter 10 and holy fuck I knew that this manga was dark but Jesus Christ the King,the count I can already tell this Manga is gonna be great

  • @darthvader77813
    @darthvader77813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel this theory is closer to the 4 horsemen as far as the god hand we know, despite there being 5

    • @moonstonepearl21
      @moonstonepearl21 ปีที่แล้ว

      The current God Hand definitely have parallels to the 4 Houseman of the Apocalypse and the 7 Deadly Sins in Christinaity. I remember there being scenes of them briefly showing up in the material world in areas that had disease or extreme lust, and only the one that corresponded to that theme.

  • @banius03
    @banius03 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. I personally am a fan of the void starting god hand.

  • @christoffnava5465
    @christoffnava5465 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice theorys👍

  • @Fudgaboutit
    @Fudgaboutit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    All 5 Godhand were created at once, and Void or King Gaiseric killed the other 4, but the legend the princess told the Hawks was that 4 angels came... So...

  • @dawatchng
    @dawatchng 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My personal theory is that the old god hand were made from the previous dominant races of the world, and as humanity ascended, they faded away, or were replaced.

  • @williamschaeffer409
    @williamschaeffer409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the last issue kept me from using my behelit !
    loved it

  • @2011vortex
    @2011vortex 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job

  • @Kyojinsei
    @Kyojinsei ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The "frost giant" is probably Ganishka, I think the other members ascended to the real world and the skull knight killed them one by one, but skull knight couldn't stop void, don't forget that zodd is no longer bound to the God hand either and has known skull knight for about 1000 years. That plays a pretty big role for what Kentaro Miura's plan.

  • @itsmedio7654
    @itsmedio7654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I only hate one thing about your channel and that's you ain't on a million subs yet, dude you are massively underrated.

  • @soochrispy___2866
    @soochrispy___2866 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos! One thing I’m not sure if you mentioned in this video is the theory that the former god hand members get turned into behelits when there time is up, and then used by the next member to take their place. I was wondering if you could please make a theory video as to the owner of the bechii behelit in guts possession. Thanks Ryan

  • @avocadobread5806
    @avocadobread5806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love how fast this channel is popping

  • @The-Arch-Painter
    @The-Arch-Painter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Crazy thought but what if Void was always a God Hand? I notice he really seems to be the head of the group with the one who spoke the most during the eclipse and placed the brand on the sacrifices. Also, whenever it depicts the God Hand standing on their hand pedestal thing, Void is always on the thumb which is the most important part of the hand if it is to function properly. I bet if this God Hand batch were to be shown on the hand pedestal, Void would still be on the thumb. Just a thought I wanted to put out there.

  • @davey815
    @davey815 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first Godhand used to be the 4 Elemental Kings until they invited Void. Then they were wiped out by him only for Void to rebuild them under the philosophy of the Idea of Evil.

  • @ChauHa1692
    @ChauHa1692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "The more subscribers I get, the more I can sacrifice for greater power": I need these to brighten up my days.

  • @Goblinpunch123
    @Goblinpunch123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The new opening is a BANGER

  • @Prinny9000
    @Prinny9000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My Theory is that with every 5th eclipse Void and Griffith/Femto there will be a survivor of that eclipse as seen with Skull knight, Guts, and Casca and with skull knight hunting down and killing each of the 4 previous god hand one by one in until the only Void remained and during this time the crimson behelit slowly made it's way back into the world finding it's way to the next god hand but eventually though Guts will kill one of the god hand at some point in until only Femto and the crimson behelit slowly making it's way back into the world in some form of a twisted endless cycle
    So Guts might be doomed to become the next skull knight

    • @timeportal2859
      @timeportal2859 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Guts The Berserker Knight" interesting title.

  • @WojikCantRest
    @WojikCantRest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think that Skull Knight was the person to murder them, the incarnation symbol seen is simply just a flashback, or rather the last thing he saw before he went into a blind rage. In this blind rage he slays the 4, dying in the armor and Void gets away.
    Idk, I just think it would be so badass

    • @davidajayi6516
      @davidajayi6516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt it that would be too easy and if the berserker armour grants such power why didn’t skull knight give to guys ahead of time

    • @greggaygayakutami1402
      @greggaygayakutami1402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidajayi6516 maybe because t
      It was skull Knight's own strength and not The armor itself that allowed the massacre

    • @sirius6738
      @sirius6738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think physical strength is enough to beat them, after all they are reality bender

    • @WojikCantRest
      @WojikCantRest 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sirius6738 True, Idk the idea of Skull Knight slaughtering them all sounds badass. Plus it would make sense with him knowing Void

  • @willevalle9371
    @willevalle9371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Intresting, i like it!

  • @dylanyewest534
    @dylanyewest534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The last theory is definitely the one I’m going with for now 👍🏼

  • @rmpgloco7054
    @rmpgloco7054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When he said sacrife us it means we are what he values most GOAT

  • @tokilladaemon
    @tokilladaemon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When we saw the previous Godhand I took it differently from most pieple I guess. I assumed that void is the one constant one who's in control , and the other four members come and go according to his whims

  • @zarhun7
    @zarhun7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice theroies Ryan. Another theroy what if godhand change appearnce or evolve overtime.

  • @Pie_Smacker
    @Pie_Smacker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If these are the "angels" that were sent down to destroy the kingdom, it might be that they were only meant to stay there temporarily, after all they only came down when the Sage was getting tortured and needed them. The Sage may have wanted power to defeat Gaiseric himself, thus becoming Void, or the price for summoning the angels came with becoming a puppeteer of causality. From there Flora performs the taboo of resurrecting Skull Knight (probably Danaan too if this theory has any credence), Skull Knight now acts as an unwilling puppeteer of Causality where his actions further along the next generation, such as saving Guts and Casca to prevent Guts from becoming like SK, and the Angels, content their duty is done, leave and return to wherever they're from now that they are no longer needed and the world begins anew.
    Basically what I'm getting at is they were summoned to help the Sage, but their help wasn't free and the Idea of Evil or whatever its name is had them turn the Sage into Void in order to keep causality going and then dipped. Skull Knight clearly has trouble even getting to the Godhand, members that are younger than him to boot, so I doubt the Angels were killed, simply leaving after Causality was confirmed to have a new puppeteer.

    • @Berserk_96
      @Berserk_96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good theory. I also think the famous (4 angels) that came to destroy Gaiseric kingdom were Godhand members and maybe the first ones with Void being the 5th. My theory is that Skull Knight was Gaiseric in his past life. And with the last 3 manga Miura gave before dying I really think SK is Gaiseric, and Void was most likely the Sage that Gaiseric locked in a cell, and the Sage probably made a deal with 'The Ideal of Evil', and the first Godhand was born. And I believe while his kingdom was being destroyed Gaiseric aka Skull Knight used the Berserker armor to save himself from the first eclipse. Before you can see in both the manga and anime while guts and Hawk members are going down the tower you can see bodies with the sacrifice mark. Which makes me believe they were part of the eclipse that happened to Gaiseric's Kingdom. And it was cell that the remains and ruins are at the very bottom deep of the earth of the tower they were walking in.

    • @Berserk_96
      @Berserk_96 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also the 4 Angels didn't died tho. It was said they fought Gaiseric but he was defeated in the process

    • @Moonlight-ef3rr
      @Moonlight-ef3rr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Personally I think they are demons disguising themselves as angels