That depiction of a spoil tip near Vivian St brought to mind the Aberfan disaster in 1966. The pile slipped and engulfed a school killing 116 children and 28 adults.
Yes but you can say that about other team members too. Ian Powlesland did have his moments in the spotlight, both as an archeologist (his real profession) and as a digger, but there was just so much talent on the team there wasn't room to feature them all.
I've been thinking that for quite awhile now, I have to assume that his ability to use such a big machine in such a delicate way is quite an amazing skill.
damnit! about 10 years ago, on a flea market in Graz/Austria, there was an old man selling a couple of massive copper bracelets that cought my eyes, with linear and circular patterns engraved and weighing probably oover half a kilo each. he told me that he had worked in the Ruhrgebiet in Germany in the seveties at a furnace where they smelted scrap metal. at one time, they had gotten a delivery of copper scrap from central Africa, also containing hundreds of these bracelets, of which he picked a couple out of the scrap before it all went into the furnace. I could have bought all 6 of them for only 150 Euros but didn´t because I did not realize the historcal significance of these pieces! ...I might as well sit down and cry now...
peter koller I can’t believe someone didn’t at least try to find out if those bracelets had value. Typical! Too bad you didn’t pick them up when you could have. But it’s even worse that they were all scrapped before that. They probably had value above the scrap value.
@@keirfarnum6811 don´t know the copper scrap prices and the exact value of those bracelets 10 years ago, but today: copper scrap 4,50.- euros/kilogram (thats apx 2.50.- per bracelet), and the value of similar size/shape/patterns bracelets in the same state of preservation which I googled the other day: 150-280 euros per piece!
'Geophiz' is great but I dont think it takes nearly as much skill as John Gater wishes it has. Lol. I can read those sheets very well, even seeing things he seemingly doesnt. Especially so after having watched 250+ videos of Time team. I cannot get enough of TimeTeam.
Pretty countryside now compared to the old industrialized photos. Mother Nature sure can heals itself. I did not know copper was deadly like lead and mercury.
The 'Manila-House' sounds like it was basically a strong-room, as it was also the pay-office & would've been storing the manilas because they were quite valuable!
maybe you are thinking in terms of more usual conditions where the laying down of soil and dust is on a more geological time scale. More recent sites like this were buried intentionally. Maybe to redevelop, or just for green space, but mostly to get rid of what must have been quite an eyesore.
@Captain 'Winkle' You are imagining them in pristine condition, not run down and dilapidated as they would have been after sitting empty for a time. They would also be a visual symbol of unemployment, social malaise. I understand what you are saying. There are, even here in Ontario, old industrial buildings of the Victorian era that somehow survived and have been re-purposed. But they are exceptional. By and large though, I think it a constant around the world that once an industrial building goes vacant, people don't want to see them anymore, in the short term at least.
To think I found these really great shows just because I found Black Adder. *:-)* EDIT: I live in the States and don't watch a ton of BBC stuff...so=Delay in finding Black Adder
@@polgara1573 I love history, and I love learning about the Roman period in Britain especially. I think the first full length Time Team episode (or special don't remember) I watched was one where they investigated/excavated an old Roman villa. After that I was hooked. It was sad about Mick. I didn't know that was why they stopped new ones though. He was a great member of the team.
@@Dsdcain He was i love to re watch all of them i do this about once a year but i miss new ones the US version didnt work as well we only ever saw a few episodes but im glad ive got them all
Yet another late episode with Mary-Ann Ochota. She doesn't have any archaeological background and doesn't have great presenting skills either. The only reason to add her to the series seems to be because of her looks (she is a former model). The introduction of miss Ochota in the series was the reason why prof. Mick Aston (RIP) left the series.
I'm surprised they didn't mention the Swedish copper industry that provided almost all copper used in Europe during the 15th century, what process did they use?
This episode felt very weird. The third day was like any classic Time Team episode. The first and second days seemed different, with the latter being a little closer to the third than the first. A lot of stuff was happening, but it wasn't really discussed in any detail. It felt like the news ticker version of Time Team. I don't know if it's a product of the period being investigated, a lack of time, or some form of executive interference.
Brian Robinson I was wondering that too! Why would they bury the facility? Or is it natural via landslides or flooding and silt deposits? I can’t see how it could be:
The only mistake that Time Team ever made had to have been hiring Mary Ann Ochota. I have never liked her on other programs but she’s basically intolerable on Time Team.
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What I really like about this - maybe some of my Welsh ancestors helped make copper to exchange for 'two legged assets' that some of my Southern US ancestors owned and then had to release (without pay) 'cause the ol' Yanks won the war. Thanks for the history lesson.
I don't understand, the computer fabrication shows about a hundred buildings but they are having trouble unearthing only one. What became of all of the other buildings? And isn't all of that earth supposed to be toxic from the smelting process?
The computer image was generated from the maps and plans of the original installation and *Francis Pryor* emphasised the poisonous nature of the process at the beginning of the dig.
The really exaggerated emphasis in this episode on the slave-trade is just to fulfill a 'demand' to be politically correct. In reality, the copper bracelets linked to the slave trade are just a by-product of the copper production on the site, easily less than 0,001 percent of the total copper production I would guess. 41:56 Even a major product - copper nails and plating for sea going ships - is artificially 'linked' to the slave trade. As if all the sea going ships in the last 200 years had no other function than transporting slaves. Sure... I standardly give the episodes of Time Team a 'thumbs up', but this one gets a 'thumbs down'. Too little archaeology, too much political correctness...
Sadly, there was not much archaeology being done, but too much effort being put in to finding traces of the slave trade - and even then they were guessing. I switch off when something that should be educational becomes nothing more than satisfying a political agenda.
The Copper bracelets made there were use to purchase slaves on the African coast. From there the slave were sold in the Americas not in Britain. So there would be no evidence of slaves at all at this site.
Correct. The emphasis in this episode on the slave-trade is just to fulfill a 'demand' to be politically correct. In reality, the copper bracelets linked to the slave trade are just a by-product of the copper production on the site, less than 0,001 percent of the total copper production I would guess.
I have no idea why people like Phil being on the show, he drives me crazy and just screams of "LOW IQ"... He totally ruins this show whenever he speaks if you ask me, I cannot stand a single word he says, and he literally adds nothing to the show beyond ignorant comedy. This is an archeology show though, not comedy, so why is he involved at all...?
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That depiction of a spoil tip near Vivian St brought to mind the Aberfan disaster in 1966. The pile slipped and engulfed a school killing 116 children and 28 adults.
I think Ian and his digger are underrated members of the Time Team.
Yes but you can say that about other team members too. Ian Powlesland did have his moments in the spotlight, both as an archeologist (his real profession) and as a digger, but there was just so much talent on the team there wasn't room to feature them all.
@@tessjuel Also *Ian Powlesland* drove an excavator occasionally (and you probably meant that but it wasn't 100% clear).
I mean, Tony just roasted the geophysics team... Lol
I've been thinking that for quite awhile now, I have to assume that his ability to use such a big machine in such a delicate way is quite an amazing skill.
@@tessjuel That's another Ian. The Ian in this episode is the late Ian Barclay.
I wish you would add the season and episode number on the time team episodes.
Me too
damnit! about 10 years ago, on a flea market in Graz/Austria, there was an old man selling a couple of massive copper bracelets that cought my eyes, with linear and circular patterns engraved and weighing probably oover half a kilo each. he told me that he had worked in the Ruhrgebiet in Germany in the seveties at a furnace where they smelted scrap metal. at one time, they had gotten a delivery of copper scrap from central Africa, also containing hundreds of these bracelets, of which he picked a couple out of the scrap before it all went into the furnace. I could have bought all 6 of them for only 150 Euros but didn´t because I did not realize the historcal significance of these pieces! ...I might as well sit down and cry now...
Thanks for at least being able to tell us about them.
... WHAT AN AWESOME STORY!!!!! hmm Peter, we have all been there for sure ... a life without some regrets is no life at all lol
peter koller
I can’t believe someone didn’t at least try to find out if those bracelets had value. Typical! Too bad you didn’t pick them up when you could have. But it’s even worse that they were all scrapped before that. They probably had value above the scrap value.
@@keirfarnum6811 don´t know the copper scrap prices and the exact value of those bracelets 10 years ago, but today: copper scrap 4,50.- euros/kilogram (thats apx 2.50.- per bracelet), and the value of similar size/shape/patterns bracelets in the same state of preservation which I googled the other day: 150-280 euros per piece!
I've just "found" Time Team. WOW!! I'm soooo hooked. All the folks have become important to me. Messing with my sleep. Thanks so much!
Kudos to the backhoe driver! He is quite the operator!
Boldrick, “ Were in a stickier situation than when sticky the stick insect got stuck on a sticky bun “. 👌👌👌
If the copper company had Phil and Ian they could have doubled production.
Geophys have the eyes of Merlin. And those diging machines make this show possible in three days.
I enjoy this I wish my mom was still alive she wanted to be an archaeologist
Awwwww that’s sad
"I've got a brick!" - Phil
Thanks for upload 👍
Thanks so much for posting
'Geophiz' is great but I dont think it takes nearly as much skill as John Gater wishes it has. Lol. I can read those sheets very well, even seeing things he seemingly doesnt. Especially so after having watched 250+ videos of Time team. I cannot get enough of TimeTeam.
Good for your for seemingly having as much skill as John Gater has gathered since or even before 1979.
Oh God I miss this show.
This is basically like the office but it’s real
Awesome documentary thank you for sharing.
Ms Michal 🙃☕💖
To reveal the past through archeology...👍👍👍👍👍
So... What he cut wasn't pure copper... Can we say that...
He cut himself some slack?!
Pretty countryside now compared to the old industrialized photos.
Mother Nature sure can heals itself.
I did not know copper was deadly like lead and mercury.
This is SO amazing what a fun dig - thank you for sharing and adding the history behind it!
Absolutely fascinating.
Thank you.
Will hopefully see u all in Cornwall to see the copper mines ?
Unfortunately not. Time Team has become history itself with the last episodes aired in 2014.
Time Team fell apart after Mick Aston passed away 😞
The 'Manila-House' sounds like it was basically a strong-room, as it was also the pay-office & would've been storing the manilas because they were quite valuable!
That too was my conclusion...ie no furnace in that building.
the last few seconds, what a beautiful song! for the uninitiated amongst us, what was it?
I've watched a few British dating shows, and Rugby players seem high on the desirability scale.
I came for copper but I found archaeology
How do these sites get buried so deeply in such a short period of time?
I see miracles everywhere dirt
maybe you are thinking in terms of more usual conditions where the laying down of soil and dust is on a more geological time scale. More recent sites like this were buried intentionally. Maybe to redevelop, or just for green space, but mostly to get rid of what must have been quite an eyesore.
The short answer is 'earthworms, partly', and I'm not even kidding.
@Captain 'Winkle' -- Nice architecture, yes. Too toxic to repurpose, definitely!!
@Captain 'Winkle' You are imagining them in pristine condition, not run down and dilapidated as they would have been after sitting empty for a time. They would also be a visual symbol of unemployment, social malaise. I understand what you are saying. There are, even here in Ontario, old industrial buildings of the Victorian era that somehow survived and have been re-purposed. But they are exceptional. By and large though, I think it a constant around the world that once an industrial building goes vacant, people don't want to see them anymore, in the short term at least.
To think I found these really great shows just because I found Black Adder. *:-)*
EDIT: I live in the States and don't watch a ton of BBC stuff...so=Delay in finding Black Adder
at least you found it
@@polgara1573 Exactly. I enjoy these Time Team shows quite a bit.
@@Dsdcain ive got all of them even the specials but i love the Roman ones and the Saxons so sad when Mick passed and they canned the show miss it
@@polgara1573 I love history, and I love learning about the Roman period in Britain especially. I think the first full length Time Team episode (or special don't remember) I watched was one where they investigated/excavated an old Roman villa. After that I was hooked. It was sad about Mick. I didn't know that was why they stopped new ones though. He was a great member of the team.
@@Dsdcain He was i love to re watch all of them i do this about once a year but i miss new ones the US version didnt work as well we only ever saw a few episodes but im glad ive got them all
not seen this one before❤
Yet another late episode with Mary-Ann Ochota. She doesn't have any archaeological background and doesn't have great presenting skills either. The only reason to add her to the series seems to be because of her looks (she is a former model). The introduction of miss Ochota in the series was the reason why prof. Mick Aston (RIP) left the series.
I LOVE TIME TEAM!!!!!!
3:00 him being so close to that scoop makes me incredibly anxious
What an amazing story So many facets involved the terrible slave trade I had no idea bracelets were created to buy people.
First class presentation - and rugby.......
LMAO!!!!! Tony putting a mask......... up side down
I love welsh singers.
I'm surprised they didn't mention the Swedish copper industry that provided almost all copper used in Europe during the 15th century, what process did they use?
Lovely finish.
Interesting stuff...why isnt this taught in school!
After watching a Time Team episode, I like to go on Google Maps and see what the area looks like now. I did not expect to see a KFC.
Keep waiting for Francis to say the furnace is clearly a sign of ritual.
Timetaem is best today 😊😅😂❤🎉
This episode felt very weird. The third day was like any classic Time Team episode. The first and second days seemed different, with the latter being a little closer to the third than the first. A lot of stuff was happening, but it wasn't really discussed in any detail. It felt like the news ticker version of Time Team. I don't know if it's a product of the period being investigated, a lack of time, or some form of executive interference.
...welcome Kiwi to the dying days of the show, with the new dynamic duo forcefully wedged into the old team... ty Channel 4
I wish they could reboot it
I thought it was a strange episode and strange subject matter as well.
If that place in located in the US. It would be a super fund site.
Very interesting! Why is everything buried so deeply when it's only 200 - 300 years old?
Brian Robinson I was wondering that too! Why would they bury the facility? Or is it natural via landslides or flooding and silt deposits? I can’t see how it could be:
One of the reasons is explained at 22:47
@@tessjuel Thank you!
I wonder, where's Phil from? Anyone?
Born in Oxford, but grew up in Wiltshire.
when they said shoddy "are you a terraria player or something?"
Maybe not the geophys. LOL!
G0D almighty... the Rugby team can be sent to dig up my garden anytime. (I live in New Jersey!!)
Poor Tony is forever known as Baldrick
valuable rare Earth elements may be found in old foundry areas.
IT'S THIS WHERE THE TOWN MINES OVER FLOW CAUGHT FIRER AND KILLED HUNDREDS .. WHO LIVED THERE..
looollo on yr mask Ton... we all love you
1:11 just three days to dig....oh Tony,you drama queen :)
“This is 95% copper not as big as yours but purer”.... go back in the video about 10 seconds to find the guy saying it’s 93% copper
Tony's mask was upside down heh.
... 11:41 the dynamic duo that killed the show
The only mistake that Time Team ever made had to have been hiring Mary Ann Ochota. I have never liked her on other programs but she’s basically intolerable on Time Team.
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"i'm digging" not sure were to dig though
Surely there would have been Plans passed for all that development.
*BLUE BIRD* At the time of building the only plans would have been _for_ the building. *Planning Permission* is a relatively recent phenomenon.
Tony with the upside down mask on is very pre-covid....
Tony’s mask was upside down. 😬
I see miracles everywhere
"...the slave trade, that employed thousands of people..." Employed!? Really?!
Not the enslaved. EVERYBODY else 😑
W H A T no Stewart or Henry - shame!
Well, you can only find what's really there. And that's what they did.
de rei metalica
Weird to be to look at the manila they made as a thing of beauty, it repulses me, cannot see it without knowing what it stands for.
What I really like about this - maybe some of my Welsh ancestors helped make copper to exchange for 'two legged assets' that some of my Southern US ancestors owned and then had to release (without pay) 'cause the ol' Yanks won the war. Thanks for the history lesson.
Was that not big pollution worst than today?
*Robert Berger*
Locally, yes, globally, no.
Mary-Ann Ochota, whose mere presence drives off true professionals. What a skidder. Politics in action.
Phil's hat must smell like well ridden horse.
LMAO! He ALWAYS has that thing on too eh?
I don't understand, the computer fabrication shows about a hundred buildings but they are having trouble unearthing only one. What became of all of the other buildings? And isn't all of that earth supposed to be toxic from the smelting process?
The computer image was generated from the maps and plans of the original installation and *Francis Pryor* emphasised the poisonous nature of the process at the beginning of the dig.
Hot Rugby players lol
Tony Robinson is an owl
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They canceled the show because of her. Wtf!!!!
No; they didn't...show was on it's way out when she was hired.
The really exaggerated emphasis in this episode on the slave-trade is just to fulfill a 'demand' to be politically correct. In reality, the copper bracelets linked to the slave trade are just a by-product of the copper production on the site, easily less than 0,001 percent of the total copper production I would guess.
41:56 Even a major product - copper nails and plating for sea going ships - is artificially 'linked' to the slave trade. As if all the sea going ships in the last 200 years had no other function than transporting slaves. Sure...
I standardly give the episodes of Time Team a 'thumbs up', but this one gets a 'thumbs down'. Too little archaeology, too much political correctness...
Sadly, there was not much archaeology being done, but too much effort being put in to finding traces of the slave trade - and even then they were guessing. I switch off when something that should be educational becomes nothing more than satisfying a political agenda.
The Copper bracelets made there were use to purchase slaves on the African coast. From there the slave were sold in the Americas not in Britain.
So there would be no evidence of slaves at all at this site.
Correct. The emphasis in this episode on the slave-trade is just to fulfill a 'demand' to be politically correct. In reality, the copper bracelets linked to the slave trade are just a by-product of the copper production on the site, less than 0,001 percent of the total copper production I would guess.
Helluva lot of rubbish in there Franchis!
Wise move sending Raksha over to get the rugby help - cant turn her down....
Wonderful that time team is so woke
No body cares about joggers.
I think the British need to take better care of their fingernails lol..Trim them lol
I have no idea why people like Phil being on the show, he drives me crazy and just screams of "LOW IQ"... He totally ruins this show whenever he speaks if you ask me, I cannot stand a single word he says, and he literally adds nothing to the show beyond ignorant comedy. This is an archeology show though, not comedy, so why is he involved at all...?
He has been an archeologist all of his life and is very well regarded
Janet Caterina Hear, Hear!
@@UncommonSense-wm5fd It definitely shows his stupidity.
@@UncommonSense-wm5fd It definitely shows his stupidity.
my great grandfather sent his silver and gold ore there in the 1880s the ore was from Montana USA