TH-cam is all iwatch nnowadays.I coukdnt handle getting stressed out by all the negativity in media and world in genera..and I absolutely hate commercials..the only thing I really miss is ESPN cause I'm a sports star guy canr hardly watch whole game but I eat up stats..loll
Phil carries his shovel as if it is another appendage. I can not look at a shovel now without thinking of him. ❤️ these guys! Thank you for the education!🍀
It keeps production costs down. A team could spend decades at many of these sites. My guess is they gather evidence of what places would be worth doing more digs and that is just not part of the show. You almost never see them backfilling a ditch. Makes me think more investigation goes on after the 3 days.
@@StanSwan I see what you are saying. And it makes sense. But I suppose I see the same thing here that annoys me with something like Mythbusters. If MythBusters can't solve a problem in 72 hours that ancient people had generations to solve, then it must not be possible at all. The complete arrogance and ridiculous time limits of modern civilization are starting to bug me just a bit
@@spacecase0 Mythbusters did revisit myths based on fans questions. Sometimes with different results. The Time Team is new to me so not sure they have done that? Have been binge watching all week.
Completely agree with you..they would find out so much more..if gave themselves just 5day week would make alot more discoveries in view at least..wonder who decided on the 3days..cause they work their butts off in those 3 days
Not even five minutes in and I'm already smiling. Hardly any one has dug these mines! Me, except for the miners. Phill's back complaining at every bounce. Great things to come. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 👍
Wouldn't be the same without the mastermind behind it; *Mick Aston* The show ended because they went from learning about archeology, to show off for views, when he left (and later passed). A remake wouldn't last even for a season.
In a British history class I was in as well as an Environmental Science class I was in the the mid 1970’s we were told the basis of our environmental laws. You couldn’t pollute a stream and prevent those down stream from the use of it. Common Laws that goes back to who knows when protected the environment. Like a Commons, which was a communal grazing area, but you were limited to how many animals you could graze. Knowing those precedents you can see how the local farmers won their case as the German miners didn’t know if those restrictions as this was British traditional laws.
It's wonderful to see this place for real; as a child one of my favourite books was Pigeon Post by Arthur Ransome, which focused on copper mining in the Lakes District and mentioned a good deal of the history of mining n the area from the Elizabethans onwards. Brilliant!.
Love the beer at the end. While I am half French I never cared for wine much. The Scot and German in me gave me my love of beers. Cheers from the US. Love the show.
I'm familiar with that illustration. My husband was a metallurgist, and had a copy of the book "De Re Metallica", with the modern translation into English by Herbert Hoover - who was a metallurgist before he became President.
As soon as I see Suzanna is going to be on and episode I cant click fast enough...lol..intelligent..English accent and absolutely beautiful..I'd love sit down have conversation about history with her but I'd get lost in those blue eyes and totally forget what day it was let alone what we were talking about..love this show..amazes me how much history there is just right there sometimes off the road in England..Iv always wanted to go to Scotland because my last name McCullough goes all way back to 1st 5clans..we have family Crest and out kilt colors are grey green and purple
Not surprised that more recent mining was done here, as England has had a lot of demand for copper in the last two hundred years. This demand being driven by the numerous conflicts the British Empire was engaged in, the Crimean, the Boar, the Indian Revolt and both World Wars and with all of these conflicts taking place in the midst of the late Industrial Revolution so between armament and wiring, copper was in such need that older mines would be reopened to pull every once and gram of usable copper.
I enjoy watching Time Team and I like Phil Harding as well. I have read that Time Team has been restarted this year and I look forward to watching the shows
Lake Superior's Isle Royale has ancient copper mines that defy explanation of who could have extracted so much copper supposedly 5000+ years ago and where did it all go? Where are all the bodies of the miners who surely would have lived and died at these mines over the hundreds and hundreds of years it would have taken to extract so much copper that long ago with the tools available at that time. Where are the remnants of settlements that would have been present at the time of the mining? Isle Royale should be studied and explained. Where did all that copper go and who/how did the extracting?
Other reply of mine. The island appears to have strip mined for the Crete Bronze Age with Cornish tin. The quality of copper and mostly gone at that spot.
@@jharnden7931 it appears to be but since we have tech that can tell us where these metals were from on our planet, where is all that copper? It's an island in a lake that only had 6 good working months and would have taken as many people to mine as it's made out that built the pyramids. There should be generations of bones from the dead someplace nearby unless somehow they flew the bodies out..
@@davidj.7227 If it was the same island, it was not tunneled but many holes, not leaving much of the best for later explorers. If Bronze Age had front loaders they would have used that. And not one big mine.
Big disruptions put iron or copper into the rivers. Several studied examples came from earthquakes sliding mining tailings into lakes or rivers. Includes Africa and Santorini quakes. Creates the "blood" Nile in Egypt. Even brings up mining slit in the bed all at once.
Was there any copper mining pre-Roman? An island of great copper was gone/strip mined during Greek times from the North American Great Lakes to fuel the Bronze Age with Cornwall's tin which was being used. They were trying to find the source for the big bronze surge. Elizabethian copper to clad ships? Ah, cannons.
There is also a Coniston Ontario located near Sudbury, a town known for its nickle mines. But mining wasn't the reason for Coniston's name. "the winning suggestion was that of Coniston as made by railway superintendent T.R. Johnson. Mr. Johnson had come up with this name while reading a novel set in a place called "Coniston Lake district of northwestern England."* The townspeople liked the name and so the formerly unnamed community within the Township of Neelon became known as the Village of Coniston." This was around 1908. However there was a large ore smelter operating there by the 1950s.
I am from the Tyrol and I know austrian miners in the elisalethian time were called to one of the best in the world. Cities like schwaz and Hall in Tyrol got rich from silver and salt. The firt Dollar - Taler - was minted here.
In America, they imported miners from Europe as temporarily cheap and already trained. Mining and smeltering in Colorado used towns from Italian hills, Poles, Welsh, etc..
I would have to say that all the rubble that geophys couldn’t see through in the open stope, is backfill. As they drive the stope downward to the haulage tunnel all the ore drops down, not cranked to the surface with winches and pulley systems. Since the ore was going downward so too was the waste rock.
Interesting that England was nearly 50 years behind in the technology to Germany and Austria in that time. Mining with drills and gunpower and stemping mills were used there since 1520
Once again, the audio on these rebroadcasts is abysmal. The secret agent music was a very poor choice. This is such a quality program. I wish they could find competent sound engineers.
First copper industry in UK, maybe by some definition but UK was trading copper and tin with pre Romans in Mediterranean basin from S Coast of UK all the way up to top of Scotland, from some of biggest copper mines in world up to this day and age. Oh, and in other episodes, got it right citing pre Roman copper trade as source of high status goods cluttering a site.
Cyprus copper ore from the Early Bronze Age. Since the so-called “copper oxhide ingots” are considered one of the most common forms of raw copper exchange in the Mediterranean Late Bronze Age, the question of their provenance and function of has been receiving the attention of scholars. In this international trade the first place has long been attributed to Cyprus, owing to the intense extraction which is attested on the island as early as the Early Bronze Age.
Yeah it totally refutes radiometric dating because someone happened to have a guess that was close to the actual found date. Brilliant, thanks for your input.
I bet if any archaeology is up there, its in that very suspicious looking lake. It just doesn't belong and looks artificial. Even if it is natural, I bet they chucked their junk in there and kept the mine area clear.
Great Find. Ask Around Maybe Eyes In The Sky For Infer Red Photographs On Copper Mine Site. Get The Right Film That Can See Detail Underground Cave System And What Companies Threw In The Lake. Sounds Like The Government Is Going To Install Raydar Site...
Tony says copper mining at this site has probably been ongoing for thousands of years although commercial mining occurred 400 years ago. I'm not sure what you are whinging about.
So I see that in its later years this show became what the history channel is now... more focused on drama and antics than on actual history and willing to put out completely false information in order to have “drama” and pull a viewing audience and get ratings... no wonder both mic and Phil quite the show and Phil refused to come back when they announced they were starting it up again (as did MANY others...
Nice episode. A lot of fluff at the start. And some fluff throughout. But Great Britain is full of nice old historical sites. This copper mine episode was well done. I don't know all the archaeologist names. But this should be a reminder to any old guys. Partly shaven and long stringy hair - does not look good on anyone at any age.
Historically known as Tiskasjöberg ;) It mined from 1/3, up to 2/3 of the world consumption. Horrible place historically though, since people died from all sorts of poisoning and accidents.
um... what about all the ancient copper mines all over the world that are easily from 500bc or older? Some atleast as old as 3000bc. It all depends on what part of the world your in.
No one is disputing that. But this is about a Specific site of a Specific date in a Specific country. So your problem is? Oh and by the way, mines in the UK go back to the Neolithic, so that predates your Minoans. The Egyptians were mining from 1300BCE, People were mining all over the world, from the Neolithic onwards, so the Minoans were late arrivals actually. So, again your issue is? And why are you shouting?
This is so shallow, forgot the Bronze Age exploitations of tin and copper in Wales and Cornwall, estimated to have been able to produce 10 million ax heads. That’s of millions more than the entire population of England at the time. If that was not a “commercial” enterprise, what was it;)
I'm glad we have youtube for documentaries because tv channels that used to have them are now only reality shows
I used to live for Discovery and The Learning Channel.
Time Team is on Amazon Prime, BTW.
@@karlmezo8554 I was going to say that but since u already did, we shall agree firmly comrade
Ditto
TH-cam is all iwatch nnowadays.I coukdnt handle getting stressed out by all the negativity in media and world in genera..and I absolutely hate commercials..the only thing I really miss is ESPN cause I'm a sports star guy canr hardly watch whole game but I eat up stats..loll
Francis Pryor and Phil Harding are a great team that always makes me smile...❤
Phil's enthusiasm & optimism are priceless.
Phil carries his shovel as if it is another appendage. I can not look at a shovel now without thinking of him. ❤️ these guys! Thank you for the education!🍀
This was so awesome . Thank you for tracing the history of the copper mines . You had a wonderful crew I enjoyed and appreciated them all .
Really would love it if it would last longer than 3 days. I'm addicted to this program
What a fantastic episode. I really wish they would give themselves more than 3 days
Yeah I don’t understand that part. I understand having to have a time limit but 3 days?
It keeps production costs down. A team could spend decades at many of these sites. My guess is they gather evidence of what places would be worth doing more digs and that is just not part of the show. You almost never see them backfilling a ditch. Makes me think more investigation goes on after the 3 days.
@@StanSwan I see what you are saying. And it makes sense. But I suppose I see the same thing here that annoys me with something like Mythbusters. If MythBusters can't solve a problem in 72 hours that ancient people had generations to solve, then it must not be possible at all. The complete arrogance and ridiculous time limits of modern civilization are starting to bug me just a bit
@@spacecase0
Mythbusters did revisit myths based on fans questions. Sometimes with different results. The Time Team is new to me so not sure they have done that? Have been binge watching all week.
Completely agree with you..they would find out so much more..if gave themselves just 5day week would make alot more discoveries in view at least..wonder who decided on the 3days..cause they work their butts off in those 3 days
I love this show! I wish I could turn back time and join them on every dig!
Not even five minutes in and I'm already smiling.
Hardly any one has dug these mines! Me, except for the miners.
Phill's back complaining at every bounce.
Great things to come.
Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 👍
Love Time Team. ....so wish they would start up again.
Wouldn't be the same without the mastermind behind it; *Mick Aston*
The show ended because they went from learning about archeology, to show off for views, when he left (and later passed).
A remake wouldn't last even for a season.
Well they just did! You can support them on Patreon, so far 2 episodes are early in the making.
@@Schmorgus as much as we loved Mick, he was NEVER 'the team'
Time Team is a great find for here😊. Enjoy every episodes👍.
In a British history class I was in as well as an Environmental Science class I was in the the mid 1970’s we were told the basis of our environmental laws. You couldn’t pollute a stream and prevent those down stream from the use of it. Common Laws that goes back to who knows when protected the environment. Like a Commons, which was a communal grazing area, but you were limited to how many animals you could graze.
Knowing those precedents you can see how the local farmers won their case as the German miners didn’t know if those restrictions as this was British traditional laws.
Suzannah Lipscomb and Tony Robinson are 2 of the best historians
It's wonderful to see this place for real; as a child one of my favourite books was Pigeon Post by Arthur Ransome, which focused on copper mining in the Lakes District and mentioned a good deal of the history of mining n the area from the Elizabethans onwards. Brilliant!.
Thanks for posting.
Love the beer at the end. While I am half French I never cared for wine much. The Scot and German in me gave me my love of beers. Cheers from the US. Love the show.
Wine is fine but beer is near lol
I'm familiar with that illustration. My husband was a metallurgist, and had a copy of the book "De Re Metallica", with the modern translation into English by Herbert Hoover - who was a metallurgist before he became President.
I play the Phil drinking game. Whenever Phil says 'actually,' take a drink!
As soon as I see Suzanna is going to be on and episode I cant click fast enough...lol..intelligent..English accent and absolutely beautiful..I'd love sit down have conversation about history with her but I'd get lost in those blue eyes and totally forget what day it was let alone what we were talking about..love this show..amazes me how much history there is just right there sometimes off the road in England..Iv always wanted to go to Scotland because my last name McCullough goes all way back to 1st 5clans..we have family Crest and out kilt colors are grey green and purple
I’m right there with you. She is so stunning. I love her hair.
Not surprised that more recent mining was done here, as England has had a lot of demand for copper in the last two hundred years. This demand being driven by the numerous conflicts the British Empire was engaged in, the Crimean, the Boar, the Indian Revolt and both World Wars and with all of these conflicts taking place in the midst of the late Industrial Revolution so between armament and wiring, copper was in such need that older mines would be reopened to pull every once and gram of usable copper.
I enjoy watching Time Team and I like Phil Harding as well. I have read that Time Team has been restarted this year and I look forward to watching the shows
beautiful area for sure. Tony talking about the life over there at the time. what a weather ...
I love these videos. Really interesting.
Such a beautiful landscape,
Always love this
I think I'm going to have a pasty tonight! Sounded good for some reason. How did they know how to refine it into copper?
Thanks.
Dam I love that pub!
Lake Superior's Isle Royale has ancient copper mines that defy explanation of who could have extracted so much copper supposedly 5000+ years ago and where did it all go? Where are all the bodies of the miners who surely would have lived and died at these mines over the hundreds and hundreds of years it would have taken to extract so much copper that long ago with the tools available at that time. Where are the remnants of settlements that would have been present at the time of the mining? Isle Royale should be studied and explained. Where did all that copper go and who/how did the extracting?
Other reply of mine.
The island appears to have strip mined for the Crete Bronze Age with Cornish tin. The quality of copper and mostly gone at that spot.
@@jharnden7931 it appears to be but since we have tech that can tell us where these metals were from on our planet, where is all that copper? It's an island in a lake that only had 6 good working months and would have taken as many people to mine as it's made out that built the pyramids. There should be generations of bones from the dead someplace nearby unless somehow they flew the bodies out..
@@jharnden7931 it wasn't strip mined, the holes are there, the island wasn't destroyed to get the ore.
@@davidj.7227
If it was the same island, it was not tunneled but many holes, not leaving much of the best for later explorers. If Bronze Age had front loaders they would have used that. And not one big mine.
@@davidj.7227
Destroyed? Depends how many old holes left look.
This is awesome!
Great upload. Too bad Raksha isn’t in this episode. Corona2020
i found another new one (for me)!! Awesome!
Gorgeous scenery
Big disruptions put iron or copper into the rivers.
Several studied examples came from earthquakes sliding mining tailings into lakes or rivers. Includes Africa and Santorini quakes. Creates the "blood" Nile in Egypt. Even brings up mining slit in the bed all at once.
I’m sorry. But that location is absolutely stunning. I would live there if I could. Haha
Good to see that nothing has changed in all those years, shopping at the company store and all
Was there any copper mining pre-Roman?
An island of great copper was gone/strip mined during Greek times from the North American Great Lakes to fuel the Bronze Age with Cornwall's tin which was being used. They were trying to find the source for the big bronze surge.
Elizabethian copper to clad ships?
Ah, cannons.
There is also a Coniston Ontario located near Sudbury, a town known for its nickle mines. But mining wasn't the reason for Coniston's name. "the winning suggestion was that of Coniston as made by railway superintendent T.R. Johnson. Mr. Johnson had come up with this name while reading a novel set in a place called "Coniston Lake district of northwestern England."* The townspeople liked the name and so the formerly unnamed community within the Township of Neelon became known as the Village of Coniston." This was around 1908. However there was a large ore smelter operating there by the 1950s.
Long term mining along the Great Lakes.
I am from the Tyrol and I know austrian miners in the elisalethian time were called to one of the best in the world. Cities like schwaz and Hall in Tyrol got rich from silver and salt. The firt Dollar - Taler - was minted here.
In America, they imported miners from Europe as temporarily cheap and already trained. Mining and smeltering in Colorado used towns from Italian hills, Poles, Welsh, etc..
@@jharnden7931 in early America, they didn't HAVE the population to kill off in the mines LOL
Fascinating
No worries about the rock road,you in one of the toughest rigs,but where is your Willeys jeep back up.
Everyone loves the Lake District for Peter Rabbit!
Ships might have had copper plating beneath the water line to help them sai faster and deter wood borers.
When was this produced? I watched Time Team on PBS back in the 1990s.
This one is from June 2020
I would have to say that all the rubble that geophys couldn’t see through in the open stope, is backfill. As they drive the stope downward to the haulage tunnel all the ore drops down, not cranked to the surface with winches and pulley systems. Since the ore was going downward so too was the waste rock.
I’ve subscribed to this twice. They have like 50 documentaries. Total. I was very disappointed. I wanted it to be what he said it was.
3:15 Herman's horse sick!
Mining tools needed a black smith to sharpen the chisels every single day. Could explain that area with the burnt rocks.
Interesting that England was nearly 50 years behind in the technology to Germany and Austria in that time. Mining with drills and gunpower and stemping mills were used there since 1520
Cornwall did tunnel mining, especially tin for the Bronze Age. Where the Welsh and Cornish not applicable nor loyal nor cheap?
The question is: Did they ever get round to doing up the A303 in Wiltshire 😅😁
I wonder how many miners became blind because they didn't have safety goggles.
they should have researched Tyrolean music from Tudor times....
How did they ever find that there was copper ore out there?
Phil Harding told them.
History
This entire location reminds me of Lord of the Rings. I keep expecting Tony to start talking about dwarves.
Isn’t Coniston Water where Sir Donald Cambell crashed?
It's the time team video that is the closest to an Indiana Jones movie.
All I get is, My name is Dan.. and I jump ahead. 😁
Once again, the audio on these rebroadcasts is abysmal. The secret agent music was a very poor choice. This is such a quality program. I wish they could find competent sound engineers.
Dr. Lipscomb!!! ❤
what heroes
Hi, Matt. How you doin?!
First copper industry in UK, maybe by some definition but UK was trading copper and tin with pre Romans in Mediterranean basin from S Coast of UK all the way up to top of Scotland, from some of biggest copper mines in world up to this day and age. Oh, and in other episodes, got it right citing pre Roman copper trade as source of high status goods cluttering a site.
Answers my question.
Free Canadian copper might have been worth the voyage.
Dan Snow please
Tiroleans? well, Hallstatt salt mining and digging for gold and silver in the alps go also back to - Ötzi's - time...
Cyprus copper ore from the Early Bronze Age.
Since the so-called “copper oxhide ingots” are considered one of the most common forms of raw copper exchange in the Mediterranean Late Bronze Age, the question of their provenance and function of has been receiving the attention of scholars. In this international trade the first place has long been attributed to Cyprus, owing to the intense extraction which is attested on the island as early as the Early Bronze Age.
Cyprus used more copper than was available unless the traded along the Atlantic (see my other post).
Damn, what a lucky fella. I’d love to be able to catch up with Dr. Suzannah Lipscomb.
Yeah, I just love radio carbon dating, u tell them what date u think it's from and bang on it turns out that is the date they come up with
Yeah it totally refutes radiometric dating because someone happened to have a guess that was close to the actual found date. Brilliant, thanks for your input.
I bet if any archaeology is up there, its in that very suspicious looking lake. It just doesn't belong and looks artificial. Even if it is natural, I bet they chucked their junk in there and kept the mine area clear.
Such lakes are natural and there are many in the *UK Lake District.*
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 yep. looks very typical to the lake district. especially the sharp sides...
Mmmmmmm Dr. Lipscomb :) wonder if she's married :) lol
She is lovely I could listen to her talk for hours.
Coins, Jewelry & Tools were lost.
Mines, Castles, Villages, etc... WERE NOT LOST! Their locations were forgotten!
So lost, then.
Phil Harding, did take the edge off by using every driver’s complaint everywhere in the world.
I wish we could know the original broadcast date.
It was first broadcast on 3rd February 2013.
Great Find. Ask Around Maybe Eyes In The Sky For Infer Red Photographs On Copper Mine Site. Get The Right Film That Can See Detail Underground Cave System And What Companies Threw In The Lake.
Sounds Like The Government Is Going To Install Raydar Site...
36 thumbs down? For what?
Because those people are _idiots!_
These public school boys sure do like the lunch
👍👍👍😎
Terrible working conditions
This simon might be one german or austrian guy - first one to drill with gunpower.
Is that an old volcano?
It could be as there are a few old volcanoes in the Lake District. The many later ice ages also shaped the landscape
Now I see why they find so little on their digs.
They are most active during the drinks!
Wonder how many people clicked on this because of Dr Lipscomb’s pic in video thumbnail
Copper is up 300%
At last our first evidence of copper mining -tony
Yea tony youre in a 400 year old copper mine i think we got enuf evidence cmon man.
Tony says copper mining at this site has probably been ongoing for thousands of years although commercial mining occurred 400 years ago. I'm not sure what you are whinging about.
So I see that in its later years this show became what the history channel is now... more focused on drama and antics than on actual history and willing to put out completely false information in order to have “drama” and pull a viewing audience and get ratings... no wonder both mic and Phil quite the show and Phil refused to come back when they announced they were starting it up again (as did MANY others...
Think youve got a nerve to expect a crew to walk u p
Content eventually starts after self important goo.
FIRST!!!!!!!!!
.. ok 2nd.. 🙄
Why was nothing found? Cause we Germans are thorough :D Btw is that the Butzemann song which the band is playing?
Austrians - not Germans - and we are worse - lol
That same copper test in bronze age bronze. They deny it.
Her story his tory tomatoe tomato . Kats up
Cheeky.... Put the attractive blonde in the thumbnail for all of 2 minutes of video time. Lol
Nice episode. A lot of fluff at the start. And some fluff throughout. But Great Britain is full of nice old historical sites. This copper mine episode was well done.
I don't know all the archaeologist names. But this should be a reminder to any old guys. Partly shaven and long stringy hair - does not look good on anyone at any age.
@randsterama Name calling, oh boy. I guess the fact that The Kardashians has been on for 20 seasons shows that volume doesn't equal quality.
tss 400 years -That is nothing, in Falun, Sweden they started mining copper over 700 years ago! HA!
Historically known as Tiskasjöberg ;) It mined from 1/3, up to 2/3 of the world consumption.
Horrible place historically though, since people died from all sorts of poisoning and accidents.
@sirspikey : You thought it was a competition?
@@karlmezo8554 haha yepp and Falun won woohooo!! ;)
um... what about all the ancient copper mines all over the world that are easily from 500bc or older? Some atleast as old as 3000bc. It all depends on what part of the world your in.
Grow up, it's not a competition.
MINES WERE THERE BEFORE ..FROM MINOAN TIMES...BUT OFCOURSE....
No one is disputing that. But this is about a Specific site of a Specific date in a Specific country. So your problem is? Oh and by the way, mines in the UK go back to the Neolithic, so that predates your Minoans. The Egyptians were mining from 1300BCE, People were mining all over the world, from the Neolithic onwards, so the Minoans were late arrivals actually. So, again your issue is? And why are you shouting?
@@hogwashmcturnip8930
The idiot's shouting _because_ idiots shout.
Sad that on my favorite channels I have to watch complete lie political ads.
This is so shallow, forgot the Bronze Age exploitations of tin and copper in Wales and Cornwall, estimated to have been able to produce 10 million ax heads. That’s of millions more than the entire population of England at the time. If that was not a “commercial” enterprise, what was it;)
Chup
I thought a cold, damp British high land would mean no Phil's disgusting sweaty hat, but no. It's the reason I stopped watching Time Team 🤢
Most people watch it for the archæology.
Can't have an Archaeologist with a sweaty hat!!
The early david precisely program because peripheral separately smash alongside a slow oyster. eight, spicy ophthalmologist